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Ukraine President Flees Kiev After "Coup D'Etat" As Protesters Storm Presidential Palace, Plunder Gold; Army On Hold
It has been a busy night in the Ukraine.
First, the newly-installed interior minister declared that the police were now behind the protesters they had fought for days, giving central Kiev the look of a war zone with 77 people killed, while central authority crumbled in western Ukraine. Then despite yesterday's latest anti-crisis "agreement" which we said would last at best hours, the protesters continued their pressure against embattled president Yanukovich, demanding his outright and unconditional resignation, leading to his fleeing Kiev by airplane overnight to the far more pro-Russian city of Kharkiv located in the Eastern Ukraine, even as his arch rival, Yulia Tymoshenko, who is held in prison in the same city, was rumored to have been released on her way to the far more anti-Russian city of Kiev - it turns out those rumors have so far been incorrect.
Then there was a plethora of rumors that he has or is about to either escape the country and/or resign, sparking celebrations in Kiev, only for him to appear on TV subsequently and not only deny a resignation is coming, but that he accused the current leaders in Kiev of staging a coup d'etat and that all parliamentary decisions today have been illegitimate, saying "I did all I could to avoid bloodshed" while comparing recent events in the Ukraine to the "Fascist Revolution" in Germany. This was promptly rebutted by the Polish foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski who tweeted there is no coup in Kiev and President Viktor Yanukovych has 24 hours to sign re-adopted 2004 constitution into law.
The just released interview is below:
Most importantly, all of this is happening as governors, and regional legislators in eastern Ukraine question authority of national parliament. Meanwhile over in the "western" Kiev, Parliament members of the opposition began laying the groundwork for a change in leadership, electing Oleksander Turchynov, an ally of the imprisoned opposition leader and former prime minister, Yulia V. Tymoshenko, as speaker. And Mr. Klitschko called for new elections to replace Mr. Yanukovych by May 25. “Millions of Ukrainians see only one choice — early presidential and parliamentary elections,” he tweeted.
The NYT reports:
Members of an opposition group from Lviv called the 31st Hundred — carrying clubs and some of them wearing masks — were in control of the entryways to the palace Saturday morning. And Vitali Klitschko, one of three opposition leaders who signed the deal to end the violence, said that Mr. Yanukovych had “left the capital” but his whereabouts were unknown, with members of the opposition speculating that he had gone to Kharkiv, in the northeast part of Ukraine.
Protesters claimed to have established control over Kiev. By Saturday morning they had secured key intersections of the city and the government district of the capital, which police officers had fled, leaving behind burned military trucks, mattresses and heaps of garbage at the positions they had occupied for months.
All of this is pointing to a national schism between the pro-Russian east, and its new de facto capital, Kharkiv, and the western part of the nation, where the EU (and CIA) influences are strongest. Luckily, for now there won't be a military involvement:
- UKRAINE DEFENSE MIN: ARMY WON'T BE INVOLVED IN GOVT CONFLICT
... for now.This will likely change: moments ago Russia's Foreign Minister said Ukraine's opposition is led by "armed extremists" and their actions pose direct threat to Ukraine's sovereignty, which means a Russian involvement in some capacity is imminent.
Perhaps more important was the following statement:
- UKRAINE TO ENSURE SMOOTH NATGAS TRANSIT TO EU, DEP PREMIER SAYS
That would the Russian gas which traverses the country, which can be halted with the turn of a spigot.
Bottom line, the situation is fluid, and is increasingly bordering on an all too real threat of civil war between the country's linguistically and affiliation-divided west and east.
The one thing that is clear is that the former presidential compound is now in the power of the people. From CBS.
The protesters, who are angry over corruption and want Ukraine to move toward Europe rather than Russia, claimed full control of Kiev and took up positions around the president's office and a grandiose residential compound believed to be his, though he never acknowledged it.
At the sprawling suburban Kiev compound, protesters stood guard and blocked more radical elements among them from entering the building, fearing unrest. Moderate protesters have sought to prevent their comrades from looting or taking up the weapons that have filled Kiev in recent weeks.
The compound became an emblem of the secrecy and arrogance that defines Yanukovych's presidency, painting him as a leader who basks in splendor while his country's economy suffers and his opponents are jailed. An AP journalist visiting the grounds Saturday saw manicured lawns, a pond, several luxurious houses and the big mansion itself, an elaborate confection of five stories with marble columns.
Protesters attached a Ukrainian flag to a lamppost at the compound, shouting: "Glory to Ukraine!"
A group of protesters in helmets and shields stood guard at the president's office Saturday. No police were in sight.
Which brings us to the most interesting finding of the day: what has so far been plundered from the palace:
Inside Yanukovych's private residence
Pictures emerging from the president's private residence in the outskirts of Kyiv after protesters stormed the building.
"It's just like being in Monaco" - man on phone next to me at Yanukovich's residence outside Kiev pic.twitter.com/FZfU6xNHIp
— Emma Wells (@Emmawells1) February 22, 2014
Pictures from Yanukovych's Mezhygirya. There's excursion for everybody now via @rastych #Euromaidan #?????????? pic.twitter.com/jR0g4CU0ZO
— Vitalii Sediuk (@VitaliiSediuk) February 22, 2014
Protesters with an "euromaidan" flag at Yanukovych's balcony.
???????? ?????? ?????????? ?? @EvgenyFeldman http://t.co/4d16hQgFxn #?????????? #?????????? #Euromaidan pic.twitter.com/dgoDW3epjw
— ?????????? (@euromaidan) February 22, 2014
???????'?. ?????. ????? ?? ????????. ????????????? ??????? pic.twitter.com/yFdq9BpYJx
— ????? ??? (@MichaelShchur) February 22, 2014
And as usually happens, the plundering has revealed numerous golden coins discovered in Yanukovych's garage and a 1 kg gold coin with the president's portrait.
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— ????? ??? (@MichaelShchur) February 22, 2014
?? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ? ???????'?. ??????? ?????????. 1 ?? ?????? pic.twitter.com/iQ9hwFxYtf
— ????? ??? (@MichaelShchur) February 22, 2014
Finally, for the blow by blow, or rather tweet by tweet of events in the past 24 hours, we go to Euronews which has done the best job of summairizing the constatntly changing situation:
Yanukovych on TV: "I'm not leaving the country"
On an interview broadcast minutes ago on ukrainian TV UBR, and recorded at 12h30, president Yanukovych refuses to resign saying "we've taken all the steps to stabilize the country, we voted an amnesty law and organised early elections". The president that fled Kyiv to go to Kharkiv also says, "I'm trying to protect people from bandits". Yanukovitch compares also Ukraine now to Nazi Germany in the 30s. In the interview, the president assures that he's not leaving the country. He also denounced on Saturday what he described as a "coup d'etat". "The events witnessed by our country and the whole world are an example of a coup d'etat," he was quoted as saying.
Opposition leader Petro Poroshenko says Yanukovych has changed his mind about his earlier decision to resign http://t.co/wFQdXhHY4G
— KyivPost (@KyivPost) February 22, 2014
Yatseniuk says he spoke with Yanik and confirms he has resigned #euromaidan
— bruce springnote (@BSpringnote) February 22, 2014
Yanukovych resignation to be read soon at the parliament
Euronews' correspondents in Kyiv report that the statement should be read at the parliament in the next minutes.
Arsenyi Yatseniuk, opposition leader in Ukraine, wants Yanukovych investigated re protest deaths #Kyiv pic.twitter.com/nDhamn079r
— Paul Waldie (@pwaldieGLOBE) February 22, 2014
Waiting for the release of jailed former Prime-Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. Conflicting reports that she was already freed from Kharkiv jail.
Took this picture about 1,5 years ago. Tonight #Timoshenko expected on #Euromaidan #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/VLtnjY5Nn3
— MareikeAden (@MareikeAden) February 22, 2014
Tymoshenko daughter speaks to Kyiv Post at parliament, says releasing her mom won't be easy
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he was never going to step down (or have elections)! here's how this plays out: after Olympics Putin dresses his Russian Army in Ukraine Army (they barely have one) uniforms and enters from the South. In less than a few weeks order is restored and Prez comes back to Kiev.
and it is a pogrom proper on the ground: there are several families of certain religion being hidden in churches right now in Kiev!
Sounds about right except for the fake troops part. Russians probably send in the troops or threat of under the guise of coup against legitimate government. US/EU counters with same gambit and unless everyone wants a hot proxy war it after jawboning is done it gets kicked up to the UN and the 'monitors' are sent in to ensure the process. I use monitors loosely since monitors just gives the mercenaries err contractors and undercover official types better cover to continue what they started only difference is more eyes are watching. Same as it always was.
it's not fake troops; it's the simple fact that Ukraine has no real army and dressing Russian troops in their uniforms is what i was told from an 'insider'... (this is also why we haven't seen a single true tank in Kiev: Russian tanks will clean this up {tho unsure if they will brand them Ukranian})..
Time for some banker's to meet the Vlad.........this bitch is gonna get hot folks.........better own gold but of course your paper should wipe your arse just fine
Might start getting a little chilly in European living rooms.
that was quick. even lenin would be impressed.
Ukraine LESSON LEARNED :
ALWAYS Go After The GOLD #1 FIRST, Bitchiez...
Things like these only have one winner: George Soros. (And his masters ofc)
Plunder Gold?! I thought that the pH Dee economists had determined that in the 21st century gold was simply a barbarous relic. Why would anyone want to steal a useless soft yellow metal? /sarc
Watch for those coins to pop up on Ebay.
...or at the COMEX. Or the next shipment to Germany.
Bullish!
WTF. So who is pulling George Soros's strings?
Muammar Gaddafi to Yanukovych : Welcome to my world.
All wars are banker (& lawyer) wars. More likely that gas flows to Ukraine get cut (if the EU is downstream it's collateral damage), which combined with withholding of the 2B tranche to facilitate debt service would force Ukraine into a default (absent Janet or Mario coughing up cash to pay Vlad... to prevent more financial turmoil in EuroPonzi Happyland) and limit the flexibility of Parliament while giving the Russians maneuvering room on the expropriation and protection of FDI front (which provides another legal basis for moving troops after the closing ceremonies). But the more important military movements may actually be elsewhere (right hand/left hand, watch your 6, or cover your flank, depending on which level one views things from).
And Monsanto gets to make more GMO wheat
Notice how the State Dept/El See Eye Ahh Dah and Mi6 started this during Sochi and at the start of Spring. This was no accident. Poor Ukrainians - they get to be part of the EU/euro/ECB debt slave gulag. Just like Amerikans are slaves to The Fed.
Poor Ukrainians? First, they want it. Second, they deserve it. Third, they are real peasants who would not even mind it. These are the people Matt Taibbi was writing about...
"Actual rich people can’t ever be the target. It’s a classic peasant mentality: going into fits of groveling and bowing whenever the master’s carriage rides by, then fuming against the Turks in Crimea or the Jews in the Pale or whoever after spending fifteen hard hours in the fields. You know you’re a peasant when you worship the very people who are right now, this minute, conning you and taking your shit. Whatever the master does, you’re on board. When you get frisky, he sticks a big cross in the middle of your village, and you spend the rest of your life praying to it with big googly eyes. Or he puts out newspapers full of innuendo about this or that faraway group and you immediately salute and rush off to join the hate squad. A good peasant is loyal, simpleminded, and full of misdirected anger."
Who knows, but it's certainly possible that Spetsnaz GRU dudes are in Kiev, awaiting the new NATO/EU/IMF puppets.
Unfortunately I don't think Putin can keep playing defense and may be forced to make a gambit... I still think it's possible there's a Syria for Ukraine trade.
The neocon crowd is israeli-centric. So are the "realists" like Dov Zakheim. They're more concerned about Syria than wresting Ukraine from Russia and would likely see it as a good short term move... the Zbig types want to weaken Russia and get control of Stanistan, but the Asian pivot and need to box out China in Africa has already weakend their position.
Frankly, the "Zionists" really do have wildly disproportionate power. They dont want the US distracted from Syria/Iran already more than it is, and it is unthinkable that the UK or France would risk a hot war against the Russians in Eastern Europe.
After the Volgograd bombings, any peace offerings by the USA are considered invalid...and Putin will continue fighting for whatever he is fighting for.
America cannot be reasoned with, i don't see why this can't be a valid perspective if you are Russian president.
Is that what Vlad told you? You must have some pretty high connections to hear Ukraine has no army. Are you seriously that big of an idiot? Where the fuck do you retards come from?
what is the current size of the Ukranian Army? have you seen an actual Ukranian Army on the ground (don't confuse the police force). And yes i do have what you call connections. Do you? You should thank me for taking time to share this, but...
Size doesn't matter.
It's how skillfully you use what you got that is important
when size is near zero skills are moot...Russia is Ukraine's true army...and they will bring the tanks too...
Another idiotic post. If the Russians invade the Ukraine, they will wish they were back in Afghanistan. That is NOT what they are going to do. Silly BS.
Now they may push for or force a vote in the east to join Russia since Stalin murdered the Ukrainians and moved his Russians into that area many decades ago. In fact, Stalin's treatment of Ukraine eventually led to this.
Stalin was not a Russian.
From 1917 thru Stalin Russians were never in control.
Russians suffered more than any.
Afghanistan didn't have an army either.
LOL, yeah you have connections. Sure, I'll believe anything some guy named VD writes on a blog. The Ukraine has an army, so you're discredited immediately. Obviously it's not the size or strength of the Russian army, duh. I don't think anybody is arguing the Mexican army is up to the American army. In fact, the Ukrainian army has been greatly cut from its 800,000 troops 20 years ago to about 200,000 now due to economic mismanagement and forced cuts.
The Berkut has several thousand special forces types, but their allegiance is iffy. They usually do the dirty work of whoever is in power, which again, is iffy at this point.
Of course, the idiots here will likely fall for your "connections" BS.
iffy you say? if you only knew... and calling people idiots that are giving you the real deal is .... please amuse us: what is the est size of the army: if u said 200k then u r the idiot! do u know how the Ukraine army surrendered to the Russians? do you know anything?
Surrendered to the Russians?
Agree about the BS...
Ukraine is estimated 150,000 active and a million reserves...by outside experts
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Ukrainian_Ground_Forc...
People also forget army stationed in russian areas of Ukraine won't fight against the side their families are on. This includes all of navy forces (only sea is in south-east in Ukraine) and a good part of russian-sourced air forces and arsenal. Ukraine has indeed no army.
there are many idiots here
and many of the idiots qualify for removal under discrimination policy...
LOL......you so funny.....
Tymoshenko is quite the Babe! If weve learned anything from Argentina its that hot chics run tight ships!
Hillary in 2016!!!
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108462&...
So..., you're saying Hillary is hot?
That Hillary Clinton is one piece of ace!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS8CP1A6OCQ
How To Choose An Eye Doctor
Tell me "VD", what "certain religion" would you be referring to?
It seems that folks of a "certain" talmudic sect have been at the forefront at putting Ukraine in a civil war.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-protests-israeli-ex-officer-leads-militant-group-094657071.html#P9BV44e
They'll try to re-write history later no doubt... They always do.
Money hides lots of blood, and buys lots of ink.
Fuck the Zionists!
Are you a cia shill or what?
Anything that is said under the jewish nature is intelligence drivel.
The esoteric mystery schools use the jews as disinfo like this picture prooves http://share.pho.to/4njYu
The esoteric schools have been around before religion.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”? Voltaire
Guy talks about the secret mysteries and gets tazed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/10/house-stenographer-yanked-f...
lady gets taken off for talking about the secret mysteries on congress floor.
Hey have 50,000. Well you can now get out of jail courtesy of the mystery schools.
http://www.maxkeiser.com/2014/01/50000-cost-of-get-out-of-jail-free-card/
http://villemariefqs.blogspot.ca/2014/02/franc-maconnerie-politiciens-et...
If you translate this it is the same stuff as the above messages.
Hey could you talk about the mystery schools for a little bit without religion OR combination of/because all esoteric knowledge teaches that all symbology from religion is esoteric/astrological basically. 12 zodiac=12 apostles. ETC ETC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7AGKfbCKDE
I am sorry I just cannot let you manipulate everyone here.
Sinnedi, a member for 5 weeks. How'd your jewish internet defense courses go?
First of all, I didn't mention "Jews" - The yahoo article did.
Second of all, for you to talk about "Jews" when I mentioned Zionists demonstrate a real lack of awareness and education on your part - no matter how much wanna-be intellect you want to chuck my way.
Third of all, by stating the following:
You are disrespecting the readership and intelligence of Zero Hedge - people who are more educated than you care to think.
Finally, it is you that is a Shill - A ZIONIST Shill.
everything is a zionist plot. Take a pill.
No, thanks thamnosma - I won't take a pill from a shill.
Now, regarding the zionist plot element...
Tell me, are you disputing the fact that Zionists are involved in this?
Are you disputing that the war on Ukraine doesn't have the hands of banksters (inherent Zionists) in it?
You know banksters don't you - Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Fischer, Blankfein, Dimon, et al - You know what they are don't you: Zionists.
Yes, Zionists like..... Victoria Nuland - Remember her? Read up - and educate yourself. Read her stance and you'll see that she's a proud Zionist.
Take a pill... Pffffft
"I hold in my hand, a piece of paper..." ;-)
I sure do hope the Ukrainians drag out several bankers, along with their central banker counterparts shackled in chains, being marched up to the gallows.
Unfortunately, they have probably all been long gone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls
another version of the truth
Reuters is snapping excerpts from a speech by Sergei Lavrov, the Russian minister for foreign affairs.
Just dreamin'...wish that could happen here.....
where? usa?
the country with the highest percentage of privately owned firearms per capita?
ain't gonna happen anymore, else it would've happenned already...
Russia will offer military assistance, once Putin's army is in the country then it will be game set and match. Prepare for bloody civil war.
They don't have to go that far. All they need to do is partition Ukraine along ethnic boundaries. Now, Crimea is predominantly Russian, and so is the rest of eastern Ukraine where most of the industrial centers are located. So effectively the Russians get the part that counts, which they will defend with their entire military force if they have to, and the West can take the rest, which striped of all its advantages, will be more of a burden than anything else. Since the whole point of this situation is control of Crimea, I would say that Putin won this one again.
seems possible, perhaps even probable... I don't think NATO goes hot here, and the sudden appearance of middle eastern style terrorism won't do here.
If the country breaks up - if I were trying to weather pattern this, might the western bit end up having a NATO/EU/IMF government imposed on them that they have to rebel against in 6 months? Whadda ya think? I'm not so sure the nationalists are going to suddenly clear the streets when Nuland et al installs their pre-approved puppets. State/CIA must know that such trouble would be brewing - how do they put it down? In Syria, they want chaos... they dont want that in Ukraine... they know the nationalists don't want to escape Russian domination for EU domination.... does NATO rush in "peacekeepers"?
Are they already there?
;o}
Who oh who will run the new western state's central bank? Who will sign the IMF loans?
Does Kiev have nuclear weapons or were they gathered up during the split from sovietskyyyy?
Sent to Russia long ago. Ukraine has no nukes.
Which is why any partition of Ukraine which could lead to potential NATO/EU alliance (and USSA nukes, or TBM/ICBM interceptors on Russia's border) would most likely not be allowed by Moscow.
Kiev is considered the redneck part of Ukraine by the Karkov upscale mail order brides...from my 'research'
If you want a farmers daughter looking to tradein milking cows for milking westerners then pick one up in Kiev
Putin's a sharp politician. After the Olympics look for the former regime to establish "their" government in the eastern part of the country (where they have strong popular support)claiming that the Kiev led opposition has violated the signed agreements. Putin will then shut off the natural gas to the western part of the Ukraine and by extension parts of western Europe. Get's kind of cold there this time of year. After a few weeks of burning furniture things will get interesting. Direct military involvement by Russia seems so 20th century when you can dominate the situation with energy.
Royalties on pipelines can make grown men cry. That's where its at.
The land in Western Ukraine is very fertile as well. Good farming on vast amounts of cheap land. It's not a bad deal to be Kansas or Saskatchewan during a global food and energy shortage.
Western Ukraine?
Western Ukraine is not main farm lands.
There will definitely be involvement in the western part especially since without financial support they will collapse in a matter of months. The nationalists may be a wildcard but without funding and support I don't see them becoming that important.
Ukraine will not give up its only port access. Sorry.
Putin will prevail over gay-Soros-EU love every time.
Though it's good to see those Lenin statues torn down.
Well we knew that Obama/Kerry/Nuland and the rest of the "tribe" were already bat shit crazy...
Wouldn't want to be the group that put the $5 billion seed money down on this bet
Be prepared for the best closing ceremony in Olympics history.
Biathalon Gold for Anton Shipulin of Russian Federation.
John Kerry and Victoria Nuland are jews.
And proud of it!
Even if sleepin Johnny didn't know it until 2004...
Amazing!!!
This is long after he duped the libtard sheep in Massachusetts for voting for him by pretending to be a Kennedy Irish Catholic. He is evil scum.
Great stuff Tylers. Light years ahead of MSM. Thank You.
P.S. Who gets to keep the gold?
Looks like you got two down votes for a compliment and an observation. We seem to be getting a lot of this shit lately.
Always freaky, but gettin' freakier.
This crisis is now creating a Syrian type situation right on the borders of EU.
In the short term this is a victory for EU and western world (That "FuCK YOU EU" rant of American diplomat acquires a very special flavour given the EU role to get this dramatic about turn in Kiev).
In the medium term we have NO IDEA how the PUTIN Euroasian strategy will play out, as from his perspective Eastern Ukraine and Sevastopol Crimean enclave ARE NON NEgotiable.
Can the EU match the Putin PUT of 15 Billion Euros LOAN to save the Ukranian economy if Putin says : All bets off and the price of Gazprom gas SKYROCKETS to a defiant EU leaning new regime in Kiev ?
Tipping times as EU is virtually bankrupt ...
Can it take on a EU/Putin stand off in Ukraine like the US faced in Syria ???
Threats and bribes are the Russian way. Their neighbors are tired of it.
The EU has to offer nothing but the promise of noninterference and free trade.
You forgot debt servitude!
What is debt servitude in the face of a trillion iPhones?
he should have put "promise" in BOLD
Tell that to the Greeks.
Lol. Good point. Still the EU is more artful and sophisticated than the Russians. A light touch is always better.
Can self-destruction and orchestrating WW3 be described as artful and sophisticated?
Nah he just means the EU is ran by gays, queers & fags
Wrong...EU is sneaks
Lavrov is Statesman
The EU are the worst criminal bankster scum just like The Fed. If the Ukrainians see any EU flags - they should tear them down and burn them. The EU is not their friend and neither is Obama-Amerika.
Not so. The EU has plenty to offer: EU bureaucracy, and bankster financial instruments (MBS, CDS), etc.
@Carl
And boat loads of refugies from every third world nation on the earth.
"The EU has to offer nothing but the promise of noninterference and free trade."
You are taking the piss aren't you?
Interfering in a soveriegn nation's affairs is what the EU is all about.
The first thing Russia will do in the face of any EU provocation is to cut off the gas supply. I don't think the EU has anything to offer exept for totalitarianism and dictatorship though.
Russia - open dictatorship
EU - smiley face Orwellian dictatorship
I prefer open dictatorship. At least you know who to blame.
Russia: 12% across board tax rate.
EU: 40-75% + Cypressed'
Yep. Democracy in action right there.
13%
http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2003/03/russias-flat-tax-miracle
Exactly. That is my point.
>> is to cut off the gas supply.
Isn't that a bit like the US threatening to not sell China any more debt?
putin doesn't have the weather on his side. w. europe has had an extremely mild winter and demand for nat. gas is very low. spring is around the corner.
and given recent history, being bankrupt does not equate to extinction or loss of power.
A little early to consider winter over.
Snow in May is not unknown in northern Europe.
i wasn't talking about northern europe...
4.08pm GMT
Britain will push for IMF money for the new government.
There will be no "civil war." The ouster of a dictator is over. From here on out there would be peace. That is , if the CIA weren't on the ground.
Meanwhile I agree with the others that after the Olympics, Russian troops show up and kill everyone, calling it a "civil war."
Peace in Ukraine is only a thought. Corruption so thick over there, you can cut it with a knife. This is no secret...
As opposed to the absence of corruption in Brussels, DC or Wall St.
This corruption is in the open for all to see. When the police pull you over, be prepared to hand over a few dollars type of corruption...
I get that, but it's a lesser evil, where the money stays in the country and is eventually spent.
As opposed to the PIIGS style crushing, perpetual debt, where the wealth is extracted out of the country. Big difference.
Oh, that I agree with 100%. Ukraine going to EU is pure destruction...
What's that Ferris Bueler's Day Off line? It's amazing what a finsky (fiver) will get you?
What the hell do they want with that gold? It's clear that the barbarians need to be westernized.
Its a good paper weght.
Fondeling a stack of Bennies is just, well, erotic. What are they gonna do with that worthless heavy metal? Build a pyramid?
/s
I pitty that president... having to leave his gold begind and all...
Dude wanted to keep his bugout bag light apparently. Lesson learned... take the gold, leave the cannoli
exactly. seemed to be leaving in a hurry.
"interior ministers" don't support "protest movements" either. they either gather up their men and start heading East or get out.
the job now is to secure borders and cut off the now deposed President from being able to leave the Country. (and yes Ukraine is for all intents and purposes now an independent country.)
Some type of "Ukrainian authority" will have to step in here in order to start securing State assets and "confronting the aggressor"(Russia.)
That usually means arming the populace and "preparing for counter attack."
And those are the orders.
Probably .000023 thick 24 karat gold plate. A real collectible.
I take it you have not handled much phys then?
Look .999 fine to me ;o)
What the hell do they want with that gold? It's clear that the barbarians need to be westernized.
Not to worry. George Soros and the CIA/Mossad contingent have a special "lock box" they will put it in for safe keeping, just like all the wealth the U.S./U.K. and Israel looted from Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan!
Just ask Paul Wolfowitz what he has in his private collection from the museums in Iraq and Afghanistan?
To the "down arrow" crowd.
Just ask yourselves where they are keeping the posthumous motherload of the "yellow stuff" that Mr. Gadaffi's estate held?
I know... I know...
He had it coming and "we owned him", once he made state visits to the U.S. and England pledging to give up all his weapons before we provided the permanent dirt nap. But what about that sovereign wealth going back to the people of Libya?
After all... Don't the Libyan people kinda need it "to ya know" rebuild everything NATO and the U.S. destroyed?
They keep the FRNs in a safe.
Russian foreign policy has always been ham fisted, clumsy, and anti democratic. Not a single neighbor actually likes them or trusts them, but some can be bribed
Belarus next. Our troops were there fighting commies in the 1920s but everyone forgot
Economist Debt Comparison by Country World Debt Clock
Compare US / Belarus public debt per person
Belarus is demonized because will notstake orders and submit to debt slavery.
Media won't tell you that.
Belarus is huge success Olympics.
Yeah, being a puppet of Russia get you this:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/belarus/gdp-per-capita
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/gdp-per-capita
as compared to this
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/poland/gdp-per-capita
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Tell us your opinion of Vladimir Zhirinosky, is he not a true russian patriot?
Compare ratio vs debt and debt growth. Belarus has cut debt.
Anyone can look good on print and borrow...until not.
Zhirinosky? odd Q..is it important to you?
Lol. That is part of my point.
The Belarus people are begging for the chance for western style debt servitude. It is an awesome party while it lasts.
It beats the hell out of clumsy, stern, daddy authoritarianism, the EU version of soft mommy style authoritarianism that is.
Ah, you mean that your fucking yankee foreign policy has always been . . .
Your country has been assisting the commies, including the main financial support for the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, since 1917 and earlier. Read some real history before opening your mouth.
We wouldnt do that brosef
Whatever real history you are talking about, the fact remains that we had troops supporting the white Russians in their fight against Bolsheviks.
"Today it is estimated even by Jacob Schiff's grandson, John Schiff, a prominent member of New York society, that the old man sank about $20,000,000 for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia." - Cholly Knickerbocker, N.Y American Journal, February 3. 1949.
Our troops were there fighting commies in the 1920s but everyone forgot
Carl - are you simple?
The US and European Powers (and to an extent, Japan too) assisted the Bolsheviks!!!!
Financially - and - by sending army units to secure the rail-tracks in Russia until the Bolsheviks were strong enough to take over.
Read Professor Antony Sutton's details - and proven - records on this matter. For now, here's a taster (for today's pop-history diet-truth population):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c
LEARN man!
actually it was the Germans who put Lenin in charge. Knocked Russia out of the war (World War I) and suddenly created the possibility of a "final battle in the West" (in France.) So sure...the "west" supported White Russia into the 1920's...but not Germany...which was still a Great Power after World War I.
Carl the man needs to step away from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh (or if he is a progressive, step away from NPR and Democracy Now) and read a few more books.
Carl is not simple.
He is correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War
It was a short, sharp shooting war that was doomed from the beginning.
LEARN man.
Read Professor ANTONY C. SUTTON, one of his best: "The Best Enemy Money Can Buy"
look at TPB tor ~ rent
ps. while there, look for Eustace Mullins as well
So how's that "other revolution" going?
Seems they can't get Hugo Chavez's two socialized brats out of the presidential palace, er ah, mansion or sumpin.
"While violence rages on the streets of Venezuela, the children of former president Hugo Chavez have refused to move out of the presidential palace and turned it into a party pad.
Rosa Virginia, 35, and Maria Gabriela Chavez, 33, are reportedly holding raucous nights in the luxurious six-bedroom villa, complete with a swimming pool and private movie theater.
Current president Nicolas Maduro has a constitutional right to live there, but this problem may be low down his list of priorities, as civil unrest engulfs the country killing five people so far."
Yes, constitutional priorities (like saving your neck and your own avenue to plunder the population)...and whatnot.
Party on Garth!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564825/Hugo-Chavezs-daughters-refuse-presidential-palace-hold-deafening-parties-five-die-violent-protests-streets-Venezuela.html
It is a lovely boisterous and prosperous Latin american country. All the little poster shops still carry a bunch of Che Guevara posters. They protest everything there, even tuition. When I was down there 20 years ago that brought out the tanks and a friend of miner's brother was killed.
Simon Bolivar adored George Washington. The spirit of revolution is much stronger in Venezuela than the USA.
President Yanukovich has claimed his car was fired at on Friday.
“In Kiev my car was fired at. But I have no fear,” he told the UBR TV channel. The President added that his car was targeted as he was on his way to the airport to fly to Kharkov.
http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/
this is a set up.
"masked" men are not to be trusted, and hardly constitute a real threat to the power guys. the idea, let them seem to win, then destroy them as soon as you see who the key opposition people are. Llike in egypt, iran, syria ect.
Gold now enroute to Israel. As will rights to all farmland and natural resources within weeks. Hopefully Putin puts a stop to these New Bolsheviks once and for all.
Anyone who counts on a dictator to save them from other dictators is a fool.
I have a several Ukranians friends in Kiev who are extremely patriotic...they would NEVER hoist an EU flag on their own soil.
the zionists have taken over (and note to whom twitter pic was sent to...."Eugene Feldman")....I got news for you, Feldman is neither a Russian nor Ukrainian name.
LOL - Black Swan in one of the pics
There is a limit to which the majority of the population will tolerate corrupt politicians and crony capitalism. This is the only way left with the citizens of a country when all else fails. This movement is likely to spread to a no. of developed countries around the world because of rising unemployment and rising frustation among citizens.
Welcome to Modern Day llusion of Democracy.
People sponsored by the rich, make false promises to the masses to get elected. Distribute national wealth amongst themselves and their sponsors (Industrialists) and when that is not enough borrow money from rest of the world and continue the distribution process. The borrowed money has to be paid back by taxing the masses keeping in mind that tax rules are made such that the politicians and their sponsors pay minimum or no taxes.
End of political tenure, rinse and repeat till the whole system breaks down and the world wealth is cornered by a minuscule of the population.
www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.html
you could see a lot of disenfranchised Europeans joining up with the Ukrainian cause to secure the State and take on Putin actually.
Ukraine is far from poor.
If the US Navy starts porting there you'll have a lot more than just an independent Ukraine on your hands.
That would be a PISSED OFF independent Ukraine with a VERY aggressive Army.
@ ak_khanna
it seems this time you much discounted the role of us$5 BILLION investment by the CFR into those NGOs and those pushes such as done by Nuland et al for regime change. This is another attempt to instaill a Colored Revolution ver 2.0.
All other seemed legitimate or genuine reasons are just spice here, the main cause comes from CFR.
Ask the people oF BAHRAIN or SAUDI if one doesn't buy it :-)
Here's some refreshment:
Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine
The West, led by Obama, is already at war with Ukraine:
The provocations of ultra-right groups and hooligans have met with deafening silence from Western politicians and media, which uniformly ascribe responsibility for the crisis in Ukraine to the Yanukovych regime and Russia.
The White House and the EU bureaucracy in Brussels are quite willing to allow these forces to destabilize the state through street violence while they lead the campaign to force the Yanukovych government out of power. The US and the EU powers are striving to impose a client regime in Ukraine pledged to carry out austerity policies demanded by the International Monetary Fund and take a much more confrontational stance towards Russia.
During a trip to Mexico, US President Obama publicly criticised the role played by the Russian government in Ukraine. “Mr. Putin has a different view on many of those issues [people’s basic freedoms] and I don’t think that there’s any secret on that,” Obama said.
“Our approach in the United States is not to see these as some Cold War chessboard in which we’re in competition with Russia,” he continued. “Our goal is to make sure that the people of Ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future.”
In fact, the Obama administration’s aggressive policy in Central Europe is a continuation of that of the Bush administration, which sought to undermine the influence of Russia over former Soviet republics and former Eastern Bloc allies in Europe, as well as former Soviet Republics in Asia. The real content behind Obama’s bluster about democratic aspirations was most vividly exposed by the recent comments of Victoria Nuland, the US assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.
In a leaked telephone conversation with the US ambassador to Ukraine, Nuland, wife of the neo-conservative cold warrior Robert Kagan, put forward her preferred scenario for a future Ukrainian government, dismissing the opinion of European leaders with the comment, “Fuck the EU.”
Nuland had previously underlined the geostrategic importance of Ukraine to the US when she told an international business conference that the US had invested $5 billion in NGOs and other organizations opposed to the Yanukovych regime.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/21/ukra-f21.html
now come on generals lets move fast, your big chance is here at last.
nite you go out and get those reds cuz the only good commie is one thats dead,
you know that peace can only be won, when you blow em all to kingdom come.
Country Joe and The Fish
The US will keep fanning the flames then, just when things look truly like civil war is inevitable, probably {and this would be soon} after moving a few of the Navy's shiny boats in the general direction of the Eastern Med... Nuland and Feltman et al will offer to cut the shit there if Putin will agree to, in return, abandon Syria.
Quid pro quo, Ivan, the NWO will say..... Ivan will know it's just buying time, but Syria is already far too deep in the muck to extract.
No one wants to fuck up the pipelines in Ukraine. The Black Sea Fleet and Crimea is what Ivan will go to hot war over.
O/T
climate change doubt article by Chucky Krauthammer
a shiny nickel to the plucky lad or lass who first notices the strangely obvious incongruity in Mr. Krauthammer's argument about the set of things which can be known, beyond sincere doubt, to be "settled." {disclaimer: I do happen to agree with him as to what he particularly claims is unsettled and what he claims is... more or less... but the hypocrisy and ostentatious invalidity of his argument as to apodictic knowledge made me lol}
How often can you get the climate change nazis and holocaust denial nazis irritated at the very same time??
"Russians in Syria" is exactly where you want them.
"All yours Vlad."
I doubt Iran will allow Syria to be abandoned. I would not be surpised if China backed them up.
"grandiose residential compound" - CBS
Whenever the western fascist media (merger between corporation and the state) decides to demonize their next opponent, they use words like "compound" and "grandiose".
I can show you 3 star hotels that look more "grandiose" than that casa.
What the fuck is a "compound"? Is the White House a "compound"?
Does Paul Singer have some debts to collect in Ukraine???
Da..Can be sure they live more fancier places.
This is for EU tparasites to steal more for their sins and high life, luxuries, mansions, yachts.
Media job is give the masses what they know