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10 Stories From The Cold, Hard Streets Of America That Will Break Your Heart

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

If the economy is really "getting better", then why have millions upon millions of formerly middle class Americans been pushed to the point of utter despair?  The stories that you are about to read are absolutely heartbreaking.  I don't know how anyone can read them without getting chills.  In America today, if you lose a good job, there is a good chance that you will get back on your feet before too long.  But there is also a good chance that you won't be able to find a decent job and will plunge into the abyss of depression and desperation that so many millions of other Americans have fallen into.

As I wrote about earlier this month, the U.S. economy is definitely not getting any better.  For example, if you assume that the percentage of Americans that want to work is about at the long term average, then the official unemployment rate in the United States would be above 11 percent.  And compared to six years ago, 1,154,000 fewer Americans are working today even though our population has gotten significantly larger since then.  Behind all of these numbers are real flesh and blood people, and you are about to hear from some of them. 

The following are 10 stories from the cold, hard streets of America that will break your heart...

#1 A 34-year-old man named Rocco...

"While my wife goes to work, I’ve been staying at home to conserve fuel. I’ve been losing weight from eating less, so my family has more on their plates. It feels like the government and big business expect more and more while trying to give back as little as possible. Soon my internet connection will be shut off and since most companies don’t offer paper applications, how will I find work then? Walking around for miles a day, asking for an application that may or may not be available?"

#2 Homeless people wasting away in "Obamavilles" on the outskirts of Baltimore, Maryland...

A sheet of plastic laid over a clothesline. A mini-fortress of milk crates stacked under a tree. A thin mattress on a flimsy crate lying in a dark tunnel.

On the edge of Baltimore's woodlands, dozens of the city's transients live in makeshift homes which they consider safer than homeless shelters.

You can see some incredible photos of how these homeless people are living right here.

#3 A 50-year-old woman in Pennsylvania named Karen...

"My husband only makes 10 dollars an hour and drives 30 miles round trip, so it’s taking all we have just to keep the Jeep filled with gas. We stopped going to church and all to save gas. We are homebodies now, afraid to use what gas we have. We save two kids from getting put in foster care just to be hit like this. It’s just a constant trap they try to keep you from receiving any help! I’m so disgusted when my 12-year-old asks me why we don’t have snacks anymore, or why are we eating so much rice, etc."

#4 The following is an excerpt from a comment that was recently left by one of my readers...

"I live right at ground zero. South West Virginia and let me tell you things are bad and getting worse by the day. We don't do drugs but have family members hooked on meth and or pills or both. Many of these pills are prescribed by local doctors either Suboxone to get you off the opiates, a total joke by the way and tons of Xanax why would anyone need 120 Xanax a month how can you even be expected to function. These pills get traded for cash sex and other items, same goes for the SNAP cards. We have family members going to jail repeatedly for the same crimes making meth, selling pills and stealing anything that's not nailed down. People who are 30 years old look like they are 55 years old. The jobs here are awful walmat, gas stations, fast food etc. Most of our whole county is on the government dole."

#5 A 55-year-old man from California named Randy Carpadus...

"I was working as a firefighter for the state of California and was laid off in April 2012, right at the beginning of fire season. At my age, I'm not going to be picked up by another fire department. They want younger guys.

 

I've applied for everything from truck driver, to sales, to nonprofit work. I've sent out almost 400 resumes, and I've gotten nothing. I've done whatever I could to make ends meet.

 

Through some connections, I got a temp job as a truck driver in Napa Valley -- a 3-hour commute from where I live. I lived in my car and worked during grape harvest."

#6 In this tough economic environment, debt collectors are becoming even more aggressive.  Just check out the kind of harassment that one woman named Jennifer Posey has been put through...

"This is Jimmy Lee calling from CheckCare. Just letting you know we're in full force," he said. The man had a thick Southern accent that stretched the word "you" into a two-syllable accusation. "We're going to have warrants out for your arrest in Columbus, Ga.," the man threatened. "We know you have an apartment on the canal in Clearwater."

 

It was when he mentioned her home in Florida that Posey began to feel anxious. "We're hurting you," he continued. "We're hurting your family, your son's family, your cousin's family. Whatever we can do to get you to pay."

 

Forty minutes later, her phone rang again. "What about that 12-, 13-year-old child you're trying to raise?" the voice sneered.

#7 A 50-year-old woman from New York named Sharon Ritchie...

"I am constantly told I am 'overqualified.' I've also been told to dumb down my resume, but I can't just erase 30 years of experience.

You can only stand the word 'no' so many times. There are times that I cry at night wondering what happened, and at times I have thought about suicide.

 

But, I keep on going, hoping the cycle will break."

#8 In response to my recent article about Appalachia, a reader named Rob shared the following...

"I am from rural south central KY (Brodhead, Rockcastle County) and I can tell you that most of the things described above are exactly how it is here. There are so many people on drugs it's crazy. First it was the meth, which was more of a problem back in 2002-2007, then the pain pills really started becoming a huge problem, OxyContin and perc 30's (roxicet) obtained from Florida and Georgia doctors. The pain pills are something that you can't just walk away from after doing them for a while; they cause people to steal from family, sell everything they own, and/or prostitute themselves in order to avoid opiate withdrawal."

#9 A 30-year-old man from California named Alejandro...

"I need to provide for my son who is diagnosed with autism and my baby girl. I’ve sold a bunch of my belongings to try and put food on the table, to buy clothes for my kids, to pay rent and utilities and to put gas in my vehicle to go job hunting. Not having money for necessities takes a toll on my mind. Depression has kicked in. It really takes a toll on one’s self-esteem and confidence to move forward.I’ve applied to countless amounts of jobs, only to not even get a call back. I’ve gone from construction site to construction site, only to be told they are not hiring. Finally, I got at least a positive call back from a company telling me they will call me to work in a couple of weeks. I am crossing my fingers and praying. There are millions of people in my situation or even worse."

#10 An excerpt from a heartbreaking letter that an unemployed woman named Paula Bray sent to Barack Obama...

Dear Mr. President,

 

I write to you today because I have nowhere else to turn. I lost my full time job in September 2012. I have only been able to find part-time employment -- 16 hours each week at $12 per hour -- but I don't work that every week. For the month of December, my net pay was $365. My husband and I now live in an RV at a campground because of my job loss. Our monthly rent is $455 and that doesn't include utilities. We were given this 27-ft. 1983 RV when I lost my job.

 

This is America today. We have no running water; we use a hose to fill jugs. We have no shower but the campground does. We have a toilet but it only works when the sewer line doesn't freeze -- if it freezes, we use the campground's restrooms. At night, in my bed, when it's cold out, my blanket can freeze to the wall of the RV. We don't have a stove or an oven, just a microwave, so regular-food cooking is out. Recently we found a small toaster oven on sale so we can bake a little now because eating only microwaved food just wasn't working for us. We don't have a refrigerator, just an icebox (a block of ice cost about $1.89). It keeps things relatively cold. If it's freezing outside, we just put things on the picnic table.

Sadly, this is just the beginning.

The economic despair that we are witnessing right now is just a taste of the horrible economic nightmare that is going to unfold in the United States during the coming years.

And already there are signs that things are starting to take another turn for the worse.  In recent months, we have seen a whole host of retail chains announce store closings.  In fact, one of my readers wrote to me the other day and told me about a home appliance chain known as "American TV" that is going out of business in the Midwest.  When these stores shut down, close to another 1000 Americans will soon be out of work...

“While this is a sad moment it is also a proud moment. It’s a moment to be proud of our efforts and to be proud of what we have delivered to the community”, said Doug Reuhl, President and CEO of American since 1988. “Words cannot adequately express how grateful we are to our millions of loyal customers, and to the incredible, dedicated family of employees that we have been blessed with over our 60 years of business”.

 

Advanced notice of the business closing has been given to the 989 employees affected in eleven locations. Employees will be compensated, with benefits, through the notification period, and the majority will continue employment through the closing process.

But if you listen to the mainstream media, you would think that happy days are here again for America.  Just check out some of the bizarre headlines that I have collected in recent weeks...

CNBC: "Stop whining! The US economy is in good shape"

USA Today: "Economists: U.S. will see better growth in '14"

Newsday: "Why the economy isn't doomed"

Most Americans will buy into this propaganda and will never see the next major economic crisis coming until it is too late to do anything about it.

So what do you think about all of this?

 

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:30 | 4473316 Looney
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Eternal struggle - Yeast vs. Vest!

MainSprinkleMedia vs. ________

Looney

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:44 | 4473375 Skateboarder
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Snyder should start his own virtual cryptocurrency: Doomcoin.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:30 | 4473556 walküre
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What is Snyder's agenda? What is he trying to sell or is he genuinely pure and honest in his reporting of these obvious facts about American society 2014?

IT SUCKS OUT THERE for a very large part of the population who is being screwed over again and again.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:31 | 4473566 fonzannoon
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He sells fear. He profits from it. End of story.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:02 | 4473715 SMG
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Bull Hockey,  He is just speaking the truth.

Between Obamacare, horrible trade agreements, a system designed to make everyone a debt slave, inflation that is much higher than reported, wages that are declining, and automation. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH JOBS OUT THERE! 10,000 people apply for about 90 positions at an In-and-out burger!!! All this while the Elite laught at us.

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2014/02/18/our-decadent-elites/

If we don't wake up and change something, this fate awaits far too many of us, even those who are well off now.  It's alot easier to fight from your feet than on your knees.

By the way you wouldn't know anything about this right?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-24/conspiracy-theory-true-agents-i...

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:03 | 4473725 fonzannoon
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"If we don't wake up and change something, this fate awaits far too many of us, even those who are well off now"

I offered up a suggestion below. What is Snyder offering?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:14 | 4474723 jbvtme
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they will not even make good protein for the mother ship. get the hook.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 23:13 | 4475258 Indian_Goldsmith
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Lol

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:08 | 4473984 J 457
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You must be living in a real poor area.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:59 | 4474062 SMG
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Actually I live in N Texas which is "supposedly" doing well.  God, I can only imagine what it is like in areas of the country that aren't.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:03 | 4473960 Chuck Walla
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At least all these folks have FREE HEALTH CARE!! THANKS, BARACK!

Think of all the extra family time they have now!

 

FORWARD SOVIET!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:46 | 4475039 bonderøven-farm ass
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These are just the first casualties of the woar on America.  More will continue to fill the impoverished ranks & cheerlead their favorite teams on the hill; remaining none the wiser.

When the food gets scarce the revolts will begin.  Until then, bask in your partisan servitude.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:37 | 4473588 nevadan
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Speaking of doom coins, I just stumbled on these today.  not virtual but...

http://www.providentmetals.com/bullion/bullion-by-series/zombucks-curren...

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:06 | 4473977 J 457
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There have always been the have's and have-not's in America since the beginning.  Not everywhere is as dire as this article would like you to think. I was traveling from my home in Northern Cal last Tues and Wed to Scottsdale AZ.  It's Tuesday night at 8:30 pm and I'm leaving a restraunt with a line of people waiting out the door to be seated- the place was packed- and it's an expensive menu.  Not everyone is living under a plastic tarp in thier old motor home by some roadside reststop.  This author has another agenda (still unknown to me)and needs to get some more balanced perspective.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:19 | 4474943 TuPhat
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That's part of the problem.  There is no balance.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 15:10 | 4476702 ThirdWorldNut
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I'd say that is part of the problem - no habit of savings. Sure, life can hit you in the face in more ways than one can count and surely enough there are so many things outside one's control. With that disclaimer, it astounds me to see the saving habits of people in the West. People hate to save, its almost unheard of. Cut their veins and instead of blood, you will see consumerism. People borrow on credit cards to buy stuff thats cool and pay 20%+ interest on it! Insanity. Bush said buying junk is a patriotic duty, he actually meant paying 20% interest and being a debt slave is your duty. And guess what, sheeple complied. 

Hard to feel bad for those who could have avoided disaster by simply saving money for a rainy day.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:26 | 4473322 Jumbotron
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Don't let the City Council of Columbia South Carolina read this.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:31 | 4473343 The Gooch
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I just wrote them en masse.

Gonna have to follow up with the bastards.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:02 | 4473438 Chupacabra-322
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Miss South Carolina Graham needs a swift kick in her CUNT!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 01:21 | 4474204 motorollin
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Ohhhh, kick. Ok.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:23 | 4473520 Buck Johnson
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I totally agree with the article, this is just a sample of the future that is coming and it will be nasty.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:27 | 4473333 Dr. Engali
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Ugh I'm tired of lists.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:32 | 4473346 fonzannoon
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and I'm tired of this dirty whore ringing the register by putting out these pieces constantly. He is truly a piece of shit.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:36 | 4473354 Lin S
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Amen to that!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:55 | 4473414 NoDebt
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I decided to do something different this evening.  Just couldn't stand marching in the shit-parade again tonight.  Typed up something out of my usual snarky, sarcastic character, below.  Comes from a different side of my life I don't talk much about on ZH.  For what it's worth.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4473651 chindit13
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I see you turning, fonz. Walking your own path. I could quote the famous line from Shawshank Redemption, but I’ll refrain. You don’t need it.

You are breaking free of the addiction. You are distancing yourself from the pack, which around here is either the 'woe is all' crowd or the naval gazing crowd as led by a certain Contributor.

Lame Stream Media is all bad. Streaming Lame Media (of the internet) is all good…because it’s all about bad. Doomporn. Blog Noir. Got to get a daily fix. Make that hourly. Can’t wait a whole hour? Then you need some Michael Snyder.

Does Mikey have a solution, or is it just all about the gloom? Well, actually Mikey will offer you a solution, but it may not be the one you want. Here’s Mikey: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_Snyder

Can you imagine, if Mikey is correct, that “paradise” is filled with people like him? No thanks. Becoming worm food is eternally more appealing.

Is there anything the “awake” people don’t already know? I don’t think so. In fact, they “know” so much that (from what I read around here regarding conspiracies, uber mensch machinations, and hidden hands) a good deal of what they know is wrong.

But it satisfies. At least temporarily. Misery not only loves company, it loves more misery. That’s what addiction is all about.

Yes, life sucks then you die. So what? Wallowing makes it better? For some, I guess it does. For others---those who turn, those who break away---it does not.

Franz Kafka said that the meaning of life is that it ends. Can’t make it any more simple than that. For those who don’t like Kafka, or might hold his ethnicity against him, how about the King behind Shawshank? Get busy living, or…..

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:58 | 4473697 fonzannoon
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"Yet, he simply refuses to even address or acknowledge that he has been wrong thousands of times, especially if you count each numbered item of his massive lists. He seems to have explosive diarrhea of the mind that no amount of logic can slow or stop."

Thanks for the kind words Chindit, and the reality checks along the way, 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 04:46 | 4474411 UselessEater
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thanks chindit insightful post

the article still magnifies why we are pissed off with the alphabet NGO's (IMF WTO etc) and governments for F.Up policies; we're pissed off because we know this is the result even though those of us willing to see the writing on the wall are preparing the best we can....we do not know if this is our freeking future despite working, researching, saving, planning and putting up with petty BS in the hopes of making the family unit stronger so we can actually stay-busy-living but with compromises we didn't anticipate nor invite.

the hardest part is not finding misery companions but like minded action-oriented companions that are thinking all this shite through and doing something in their own fashion to prepare and/or regain some kind of independance. Discussing ideas with a can-do mob is more engerising than a pity-party mob (even though justified).

too much of the can-do mob is about cans, guns, gold and whining......I want to live life on my terms -I'll take steps to try and minimise the chess match we're stuck in; but one my terms - free mind, free spirit and, sigh, excessive time on the net working the game out and how to prepare with meagre resources and flexible resourcefulness - I got another 30 or more years of this crap to manage so I can live a happy life that says FU to TPTB that call me and mine a uselesseater.

Just to piss 'em off.... my family we're gonna stay at gettin' busy living, wake up a couple more souls if we can, and push our screamin family into a safer reality (relatives in my experience belatedly use the foundations laid for them -jesus even my family in Zimbabwe took a decade or two to get moving tick-toooock-tiiiick-tooooooooock).

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 05:25 | 4474432 F-Tipp
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Thanks Chindit.

I think I've started to come around to this way of perceiving things. I've found that through all the terrible truth regarding the present order, there are still a few timeless ones that keep me going - do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The great religious leaders/philosophers had something there.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:29 | 4474776 Disenchanted
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I nominate chindik13 as top ZH forum quisling.

He always steps up to defend the failed status quo.

 

Everything he knows is of course right. Do not question the 'authorities' and their pronouncements or you will be branded a conspiracist.

This is not to defend the Mike 'only Jesus can save you now' Snyders of the world.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:52 | 4473381 sunaJ
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Yes. Mike Snyder:  the king of anecdotal (at best) evidence and disconnected lists delivered as bullet-point "signs" to feed a confirmation bias.  I've seen him get as high as 35, I believe.  I do find the making of lists as he does quite peculiar, if not irritating.  I have noticed some websites like alternet.org or slate.com don't seem to be able to write any articles at all unless they have at least 15 points they wish to regurgitate in hopes of convincing you of something.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:01 | 4473434 max2205
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If it's not on ABC news, it's not happening

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:04 | 4473447 Omegaman2211
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Snyder is such a piece of useless shit.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:26 | 4473538 in4mayshun
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And I'm sure so are you. While I admit he's not a Pulitzer Prize winning writer, at least he's trying to do something to wake up some of the sheeple, which I suspect, is more than you're doing.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:33 | 4473549 fonzannoon
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what is he doing? How is he awakening any sheeple? You think Sheeple read his blog? Or ZH?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:36 | 4474085 acetinker
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Hey fonz, been awhile.  I will say that Mr. Snyder has focused on the negative bits, creating these tiresome lists, for far too long.  Still, the real economy sucks, regardless of the S&P.

That ain't why I replied, though.

Late last week, a young fellow called my shop.  He said he needed some wheel spacers for his '97 Honda Prelude, cos' he had a set of wheels that rubbed the front struts.  He really likes these wheels... and further said he had a set of old rotors that he wanted to cut the hub section out of to use as spacers.

Now, this is shit that I can do, but I usually (always) grimace when an 'average joe' wants me to do something like this.  He seemed sincere, and at least, he had an idea of what he needed.

The reason I grimace is that the average person has no idea the cost of their particular want.  If I quote that thing they want at commercial rates,  I'm an asshole... and I really don't need that reputation.  So, I told him his wheel-spacers-made-from-brake-rotors would cost him 25 bucks each.  That's similar to the hundred dollar 32" flatscreen at Wal-Mart, and he said OK.

So, in conversation I learned that, he is some kind of manager at a local chick-fil-a.  You just don't get hired by chick-fil-a unless you're a die-hard fundamental christian.  Upon leaving, he said, "have a blessed day!"  I'm not anti-christian, mind you... having been raised as such, and don't find fault with this young man.  I either fell from grace, or outgrew the blind faith thingy, depending on your point of view.

Anyway, today my young customer came to pick up his wheel-spacers-made-from-brake-rotors.  He seemed quite pleased.  He asked if I needed part-time help.  He seems genuinely fascinated with me and my stuff.  He completely ignored the open Corona on the workbench.  He seems oblivious to my un-Godly ways.

So, I ask in all honesty... should I call this kid, or is it a waste of time, for either of us?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:43 | 4474111 fonzannoon
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trust your instincts, if you are totally unsure, take a chance. just my 2 cents.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:21 | 4474746 wtf1369
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If you can use the help I say give him a shot. Worst case, you rub each other wrong and in a week or two you tell him so and part ways.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:38 | 4473591 kito
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Wake up the sheeple? At the same time putting the rest of us on here to sleep. Why am I even responding? I'm only encouraging these types of posts....click, read, comment, ca-ching for Tyler.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:11 | 4474347 drendebe10
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Y r u here then? Vote w ur mouse. Dont read the lists or post on them. Duh.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:32 | 4473344 lordbyroniv
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"Suck it up America" - Charlie Munger

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:33 | 4473347 J S Bach
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A debt-free money system will set these folks on the path to freedom - as will it all of us.

 

Never take your eye off the target of evil - usury.

 

Once this Satanic monetary system is abolished - EVERYONE'S status in life will improve - without exception (except the banksters).

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:04 | 4473444 Chupacabra-322
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Gutt wrenching stories.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 06:26 | 4474471 Tapeworm
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Yeah Right.

 There are jobs out there that can get one up the ladder even in the rotten dying manufacturing economy.

 I hire on at 8.00/hr while they go through training for three weeks. If they stink they are out. If good they will rapidly advance to 16.00/hr.

 That is for the slobs that sit around and do nothing from age six to age sixteen when they finally drop out of the worthless schools that the goomint serves up. Many are illiterate.

 I have little sympathy for those that are bullet pointed in this article. They had a goomint education served to them at 10k-14k/yr and had the amazing internet all along in the past fifteen years and more. Only a self admitted jagoff can claim that they are ill served by society amd the taxation rackets of public schools.

 The goomint skools are worthless and worse in that they inculcate the notion that the slobs are not to blame for their sloth and ignorance.

 I have zero respect for those that refuse to better themselves by taking a job with fringes that will pay for  remedial education. What is worse is that so few take advantage of truly free education of Khan Academy and the rest.

 These fecks cultivate their uselessness.

 Yeah, and we are supposed to get silly and tell ourselves that these dopes are to be something other than scrap in shit canning the rotten system that leeches the real producers.

 goomint is evil and goomint skools are compounded evil.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:32 | 4474987 TuPhat
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I agree with you tapeworm.  Most of Mike's examples are problems with drugs, not the economy.  Some people will find a way to live like animals no matter what kind of opportunities they have.  The economy is bad but a lot of people make their situation worse in their own special ways.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:35 | 4473351 Spungo
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Maybe jobs would come back if the government stopped trying to make it illegal to hire anyone for any reason. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:08 | 4473738 louisianagold
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Maybe that is not their plan.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:35 | 4473352 Lin S
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Yay, more Michael Snyder fear porn!  Because we here at ZH can just never get enough of his dull, monotonous, bullet-point disaster-lists! 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4473394 philipat
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Must be an echo in here today?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:49 | 4473356 free_lunch
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**********************************************************************


   I've seen the future and it's murder:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM

"The Future"

Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it's lonely here,
there's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that's an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant

You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

When they said REPENT REPENT ...


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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:47 | 4473637 DoChenRollingBearing
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Who would have thought: Leonard Cohen as the Prophet of the Twenty-First Century.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:49 | 4473904 Radical Marijuana
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Ah, but was it not appropriate that Leonard Cohen had his life's savings stolen by his accountant (something like $5 million in the stories I have read), and then he HAD to get back to work, in order to make a living. A lot of these recently famous songs that we hear by him were written and performed after his accountant embezzled his retirement funds. Of course, Cohen was always a great poet. Therefore, in a sense, what else could be more appropriate than songs which seem like the "Prophet of the Twenty-First Century" being composed and performed by someone who was screwed by his accountant, and therefore was forced to get back to work performing again, to make a living.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:50 | 4473654 free_lunch
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 A READING OF THE FUTURE:  http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/future.html

More cheerful music: http://youtu.be/ytpqcJ1IfoA?t=40s

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:39 | 4473363 Spungo
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Same as it ever was. Go Amerika!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t9fVcBpd3U

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:42 | 4473372 maxamus
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Same stink, different shit.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:40 | 4473367 ebworthen
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Looking for work for two years; anything from what I'm qualified to do down to minimum wage.

No phone calls, no emails, and when I do get one they start to tease out my age (over 25) and aren't interested.

The few interviews I've had are from younger guys who look at me like I'm a street person even though I'm better dressed than them.

This economy is IN THE TOILET and swirling the bowl.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:44 | 4473376 fonzannoon
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There should be a link on ZH where we have a sort of linkedin type setup where people can post their specialty and where they are located. There are enough of us spread all over where it's possible that somebody knows somebody and can put a word in for the person looking for work. I mean it's worth a shot and despite our differences we are a tight knit group who I believe would go an extra step to help out one another. Just a thought.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:47 | 4473382 nmewn
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An excellent thought actually.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4473392 Hulk
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It was bound to happen eventually !!!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:51 | 4473397 fonzannoon
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Asswipe!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:05 | 4473442 Hulk
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shitass !!!

/my mom's favorite pissed off saying, yelled as one word...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:11 | 4473746 IridiumRebel
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My dad used to say "bullfuck". We didn't understand it either.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:55 | 4473933 Xanadu_doo
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ASSHAT is a good one, too.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:53 | 4474863 Tall Tom
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Spineless autofellator is also pretty affective.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:48 | 4473387 Skateboarder
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I wish for the safety of all ZH bretheren outside the digital realm. Inside, no one is safe. Best not to use their tubes in building our network...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:06 | 4473454 The Gooch
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The orphans?

THEY"RE NOT IN OUR NETWORK!

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:51 | 4473401 Van Halen
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I love your idea. May I expand on it a little - this is a good time to see if you personally can train yourself in a skill that might be needed later: a foreign language, basic first aid, engine repair, basic shooting and gun maintenance, gardening, canning, electrical, carpentry, etc.

In addition, now is a good time to get yourself in physical/mental/moral shape by dieting, working out, getting back to God, and cleaning garbage out of your life.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4473647 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes.  Great reply.  + uncounted + eternity

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:52 | 4473404 RaceToTheBottom
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Interesting thought.  Thanks for that.  It would probably provide upfront information just how many skilled people are having trouble

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:57 | 4473422 fonzannoon
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I mean why not, right? Does ZH have a suggestion box? Maybe one person gets a job out of it. Or an internship that turns into something. I don't know, but it's better than sitting here being paralyzed by these articles. 

I mean fuck, Ebworthen has some way with words, i'd rather read his thoughts on this subject than Snyder's, and if it pays Eb's bills, all the better.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:43 | 4473618 kito
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I will be in Chile with Simon black. I need help with my organic garden. I can pay with Chilean inflation protection bonds. Anybody??

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 06:42 | 4474481 Tapeworm
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Yeah, an organic garden.

 Now in my rathole city we  have free gardening help from vastly overpaid goomint folks that sit around doing nothing because the professional crybabies cannot till a garden.

 I am sick unto death of hearing assholes bemoan their status while refusing to do even the least to feed themselves from subsidized gardening help and all else,

 They wring their undirtied hands and bemoan their hard times of being unable to do anything with their 100 hours per week of free time while on the dole.

 I wish that I had the time to grow flowers and vegetables that I had when I only worked fifty hours per week.

 My obese wife hits on me as to how I was so much happier when I grew a lot of stuff. She hasn't had a wage paying job in the past thirty years.

 I surely miss the days in the dirt.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:48 | 4473905 johnQpublic
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anyone in sales?

better be good

corrugated experience preferred

up to 3 positions

philly to baltimore area

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:22 | 4473512 denverdolomte
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Just recently was hired in Colorado's "new" industry. The company I am with has hired over 160 people since the 2nd of 2014 and only growing larger. They don't want kids and need all different types of specilizations within the industry. Just a thought, but may be worth looking into that industry out here or in Washington. 

Best of luck eb!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:15 | 4473762 Ness.
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Are you growing ganja or selling girl scout cookies?

 

I don't knock anyone who has the desire to work, just wondering.  

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:58 | 4473940 denverdolomte
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Growing / Budtender. Haha there is a strain called Girl Scout Cookie. 

Only place I could get an interview with after ages and ages of looking, just like everyone else situation. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:38 | 4473595 Uber Vandal
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@ebworthen:

A friend of mine had at least a decade of experience for the job he applied for, but, since he was out of work for about two years, the person doing the hiring said that he did not have RECENT job skills, and was therefore unsuitable for employment with that employer.

I NEVER look down on anyone, for only a fool would think that misfortune will never pay them a visit.

It seems that very few people understand how everyone of us, myself included, are only one accident, law suit, divorce, or other calamity from being on the street.

 

 

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 04:58 | 4474418 Fogey
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The world is run by re-born calvinists. Say thanks to the neo-cons for wasting the enlightenment.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 07:03 | 4474495 Tapeworm
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Vandal,

 Part of the problem is that so few save for a bad spell.

 In my experience I know of, save two, anyone that was able to weather a poor spell. The statistics of any sort bear this out.

 Because of abject fear I never had less than two years of cash savings available for a bad time. I will say that It took me two years of living low to save two years of cash. That is an exeggeration but not by too much. Now I have ten years of dried food fo myself and family. I have that much because I bought it for those that I figured would finally listen to me about the neccessity of having it. To a person they refused to buy in so I ended up with all of it.

 I offered it to my employees at 50% off of the already discounted price of 24% off. The price is wildly higher than it was when undiscounted and the 50% subsidy from me is gone. The cost now is more than twice of what was offered to them. 600.00 offered to them is now 1400+.

 I don't much care anymore. They all bet that TSHTF was not going to happen and they were correct. I have an enormous amount of medium to high end food that I bought originally to supply to them if times got tough.

 I was wrong, I wonder what their attitude will be if there is a real derivative crisis.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:29 | 4473828 homiegot
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You're doing something wrong. Fix it.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:34 | 4473848 Colonel Jessup
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Head to North Dakota, good oil jobs up there. In what profession have you been seeking employment for the last 2 years?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:50 | 4473913 johnQpublic
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oil jobs in williamsport pa, but i'm in no way connected to that

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:42 | 4473370 maxamus
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#6 is sitting on a gold mine.  Threatening jail?  Involving family members/friends?  Both illegal tactics.  Cha ching.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:42 | 4473371 new game
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drove through carolina and felt the statism on the hiways. trolling with speed traps on huge hills-the fuckers.

didn't get me but felt their presence like no other state but,- guess? hint; a great half breed and organizer.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:52 | 4473663 DoChenRollingBearing
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If you were on I-95 in SC, did you see how many BLANK billboards there were?  Billboards on I-95 is big business in S Carolina, or was...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:44 | 4473374 medium giraffe
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How is it even possible to manage things so badly, yet give not a single squirt of piss?

And we are supposed to respect these worthless, incompetent and self absorbed man-child celebrity pricks-in-charge?

 

It's almost like they are doing it on purpose.

 

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:47 | 4473384 Van Halen
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This is a great time to learn to fast two days a week, like a Wednesday and Friday. You can do it for religious reasons if you're so inclined, but also for the point of lessening your dependence on food, losing weight, and preparing yourself for the possibility that things may get really scarce really fast.

Google square foot gardening too. Very useful.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:56 | 4473416 Erudite Redneck
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I agree it can also bring great discipline to other parts of your life.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:30 | 4473831 Colonel Jessup
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use startpage.com, do not feed the beast. Same quality results.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4473391 D-Fens
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Look people you sold your souls to the tribe and this is your comeuppance.  Poverty, endless wars in the middle east, the hatred of the world, a worthless currency.

 

What did you expect?  Eternal life and riches?

 

Lol.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:01 | 4473435 DaddyO
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What does the D stand for in D-Fens?

Douche?

DaddyO

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:51 | 4473395 NoDebt
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I'm going to throw a story out there, just because I feel like posting up something positive in this thread.  It comes from somebody I know personally and it's happening RIGHT NOW:

A woman living in my area who came from another country.  Bad childhood, bad ex husband.  One child.  No resources.  If I said she signed up for welfare, food stamps and Medicaid you would not be surprised.  But she didn't.

Somehow, somewhere along the way, she recognized that those things are a government TRAP.  They help in the short term but hold you back later.  She refuses to take government assistance of any kind.  I and a few business associates and friends of mine do what we can to give her a hand UP, not a handOUT.  Found her a cheap apartment, bought her a dress to go to job interviews.  Pennies to us, but resources she needs if she's going to have a run at this.

Few weeks later she's got a job paying $8/hr. walking distance from her apartment (and someplace to look after her little girl while she's working).  

Few months later she tells us "I found a better job".  $16/hr. Beat out 12 oher people to get it.  DOUBLE the pay!  But short driving distance, not walking distance.  She's borrowing a car temporarily, but says she's got enough saved up to pay for a cheap used car, does anyone have one to sell?  Again, NOT a hand-out.  She wants to pay a fair price.  My mother-in-law is ready to trade in her 17 year old Pontiac so she offers it up for $1000.  Sold.  Now she's got her own wheels.

I can't tell you any more of the story because that's where things are as of 5 hours ago.  How will it turn out?  Couldn't tell you.  But what I CAN tell you is that she has made a lot of friends who respect what she's trying to do WITHOUT taking a government hand-out.  She's done more with the small help we've given her than probably tens of throusands of dollars of welfare could ever accomplish.  

Americans have been down-and-out before.  But I've never seen so many Americans who are so.... hopeless.  Like their spirit has been broken or something.  Watch a single mother from another country with NOTHING plugging forward and gaining some measure of success is, I think, one of the little things that reminds me that not all is lost.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:54 | 4473411 fonzannoon
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That story is crap. Now go live an empty hollow existence until you die alone, scared and weak...also cold and helpless.

Thanks,

Michael Snyder

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:57 | 4473421 NoDebt
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OK, so one vote for "BAD idea posting up stuff like that."

Heh heh.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:03 | 4473441 fonzannoon
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Haha it was a great post nodebt. Thanks for sharing. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:12 | 4473466 NoDebt
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Any time, Fonz.  I know your sense of humor.  I knew what you meant in your original reply.  Probably best if we just let everyone know we're on the same side here, not at eachother's throats over this before the down-arrow boys get out of hand.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:15 | 4473474 CrashisOptimistic
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I'm okay with posting positive stories.

It would be rather better, though if they were credible.

"Few weeks later she's got a job paying $8/hr. walking distance from her apartment (and someplace to look after her little girl while she's working).  

Few months later she tells us "I found a better job".  $16/hr. Beat out 12 oher people to get it.  DOUBLE the pay!  But short driving distance, not walking distance.  She's borrowing a car temporarily, but says she's got enough saved up to pay for a cheap used car, does anyone have one to sell?"

So on $8/hr she paid for an apartment plus daycare?  That's $64/day if she's full time.  That's $1280/month.  Midscale daycare is $200/week.  So of her pay she has $480/month left to pay for rent and food?  Note I took nothing out for Soc. Sec. or food at daycare, often additional.

And she a "few months later" has saved up enough for a car?

I'm all for gung ho Horatio Alger stuff.  I'm not for bullshit.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:18 | 4473490 fonzannoon
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LOL I love ZH. Only on here can someone post a positive story like that and someone else call bullshit on it. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:20 | 4473503 CrashisOptimistic
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I was being kind.  Notice I didn't throw utility costs into her budget.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:22 | 4473514 The Gooch
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It was all inclusive.

Like the WH.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:08 | 4473987 tarsubil
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The work you put into the rebuttal of a supposed first hand story really looks foolish.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:12 | 4474918 Tall Tom
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Yeah. What I love about ZH is that we use the facts and CRITICAL THINKING TO CALL OUT THE BULLSHIT STORIES.

 

If you want Bullshit Stories and Rainbows and Unicorns Economics then go watch FOX NEWS and continue to live in your FUCKING PIPE DREAM.

 

It has been said that Depression is anger turned inward. It is said that a Suicidal Act is a homicide on a target of that anger.

 

WHEN...NOT IF BUT WHEN...they come out of that Depression, when it lifts, then the anger will be directed HOMICIDALLY toward the people on Wall Street, K Street, the Central Banks, the INSURANCE COMPANIES and anyone else remotely connected with it.

 

It is just a Heads Up, Fonz. You had best consider that in your Calculus. The State will not be there to save you.

 

THERE ARE NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS. NONE.

 

You offer NOTHING BUT INCITEMENT.

 

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:47 | 4473605 NoDebt
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We lied to her, OK?  We told her the car was $400 because we knew that's how much she had.  And it took her almost 9 months to put that much scratch together.  Me and my parner at work ponied up the other $600 and didn't tell her.  We also have an arrangement with the garage across the street from her apartment in case the car needs any serious/costly repairs.

Daycare?  No daycare.  Not the full-pay kind, anyway.  Gotta be a little more resourceful than that when you're working on a shoestring.

Wanna know what else we lied to her about?  OK.  We told her most Americans on assistance wish they weren't on it.  She needed to hear somebody confirm what she already thought herself.

If that kind of lying makes me a son of a bitch, I'll wear the label proudly.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to let somebody fail who is TRYING.

INVESTING in somebody is more complicated than CARRYING somebody.  But the payoff is better.  

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:56 | 4473690 DoChenRollingBearing
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That is fantastic what you did.  + a million.

Get back to us in the future sometime.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:30 | 4474066 NoDebt
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Thanks.  I will, as best I can.  But please realize I may never know the full story.  Frankly, the best thing that could happen is that I don't know what happens to the end.  She gets her legs under her and simply doesn't need the help any more- she moves on beyond our little network and just does for herself without anyone watching over her.

I'm not joking when I talk about INVESTING in somebody.  This isn't something we do just to feel good about ourselves (we aren't trotting her or her daughter out at Thanksgiving dinner to brag to our friends about this).  She's never going to know who we all are, how much assistance we provided or why we did what we did, in all likelyhood.  And that's as it should be.  Her success is FAR more important than who gets credit for assisting it.

In my world, one solid win carries the weight of a hundred losses.  It's NOT just a spit in the ocean.  It is NOT futility.  I mean that quite seriously.  If she succeeds she will carry the message of success forward in a way that impacts MANY people in ways we can not predict, nor should we try.

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 05:38 | 4474441 F-Tipp
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After reading this and the NSA stories, I was once again going to have a very restless night. Your post made my week NoDebt. You remind me of a couple of guys in my lodge, who really understand what it means to help someone.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:21 | 4473508 Ms.B.Haven
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I know more poor folk like myself that will give a deserving person a $100 than a rich person who will spot someone $10.

Great story.  Good on you and best wishes to the lady and her kid.

Sometimes I lose faith in humanity then I read things like this.  We're not *all* animals.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:58 | 4473944 TheMeatTrapper
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I try to learn. Always learn. People need to learn. Too many Americans refuse to learn. They want somebody to "give" them a job. They have been conditioned to be dependent, and not self reliant.

Every American that works for someone else needs to develop a supplemental income stream that is not dependent upon their employer. It's not hard to do. I sell a trapping video. It cost me nothing to make. My website is free. The e-commerce company I use hosts the video and handles the credit card process for a fee from each sale. I will be expanding this line this summer as time permits. 

I literally built a website, shot a video and sold it  - completely free of charge. 

I make a six figure salary as an IT consultant - but I also get paid to catch nuisance beavers. My families entire meat supply is provided by hunting and trapping. I literally get paid to put meat on the table. 

I catch and butcher snapping turtles in the summer. Catfish traps as well. I had a coworker call me and tell me a coyote had jumped the fence and was in his mothers back yard. A local ADC company charged her $120 to shoot it, bag it and discard it. 

There is money out there. Lot's of it, but people have to be willing to work for it and STOP being dependent on others. 

I have people call me and tell me they'll "let" me come catch their beavers, as if they are doing me a favor. I tell them fur isn't worth shit. If it's so damn valuable they need to get their ass out there in the swamp and catch them themselves. 

That usually shuts them up. :) 

The economy isn't the problem - it's peoples refusal to be responsible for themselves that is the problem. 

Bypass the economy. 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 01:09 | 4474191 King_Julian
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Great post No Debt. I have a few of yours I've saved from the past. You do good work here. Please keep it up.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:55 | 4473413 SgtShaftoe
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People that have the means need to GTFO of these dying areas (California, east coast) before they run out of assets and options.  There are places in the country that have decent jobs, but it involves moving.  Once they have spent their last 1-200 bucks, they're in deep shit.  It's heartbreaking. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:56 | 4473417 Van Halen
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Bottom line here is that if we want this cycle to break, we have to get it in our heads, and then in everyone else's that there are about 3000 of them controlling 320 million of us. And we can march. On them.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:16 | 4473486 Freddie
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Until people start at a minimum to unplug TV and Hollywood (used to control the masses) then they are just talking bullshit.  I would bet 80% of the posters here still watch TV.  You watch it - you keep em in power.  Dumb Fvvxx.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:58 | 4473425 Erudite Redneck
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Jesus said the poor are rich in faith. They have to cry out to God they have no money to depend on.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:00 | 4473432 Sardonicus
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Probably the FTC will close colleges and universities next.  They are not much different than this.  http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/02/ftc-shuts-fraudulent-net-company-apply-...

 

The value of an education is being grossly oversold.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:12 | 4473470 Erudite Redneck
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What blows my mind is the Gov letting people borrow $70K for a general liberal arts degree. I met a recent grad working for $12 bucks an hour.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 04:44 | 4474407 TBT or not TBT
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"letting"? Encouraging is the right word for it.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:01 | 4473436 whoopsing
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I wipe my ass with Newsday

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:02 | 4473437 Omegaman2211
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Go fuck yourself, Snyder.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:05 | 4473449 fonzannoon
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Say it loud my man, GO FUCK YOURSELF, SNYDER!

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:04 | 4473443 shermacman
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There is still enough money on my EBT card, so I won't take to the street with pitch fork and torch this month. Gotta call my homies, I need some smoke. Peace out, y'all!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:07 | 4473459 yogibear
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Plenty of unemployed on disability. Enough money to live on. Beats unemployment insurance.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:22 | 4473516 John_Coltrane
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I'd like to hear examples of people taking personal responsiblity for their lives in the future post.  Freedom and personal responsibility-the bedrock characteristic of all libertarians.  You got a problem?  Look in the mirror first to see the cause.   You likely already know the effect.  Make enough bad decisions you will end up extinct-evolution works this way.  The first step is avoid debt at all costs.  Don't have offspring unless you have the skills to support them and most importantly can teach them about the world and the skills they will need to thrive (e.g. the scientific method, analytical thinking and problem solving).  Save and live below your means.

A final thought:  the poorest segment of our society still live better than the aristocracy of the 19th century.  We have indoor plumbing, sanitation and fresh water, not to mention antibiotics.  Whining about how society has "screwed you over" is useless. As useless as most of this authors anecdotal posts.  Adecdotes are the opposite of the scientific method.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:26 | 4473816 Ness.
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I've posted this quote before but it seems to 'fit' with your post.

 

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility.

~Sig Freud

<Coltrane's version of "My favorite things" is one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded>
Tue, 02/25/2014 - 01:05 | 4474187 Milestones
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First picked up on Trane in 55-56 when he joined Miles and Cannonball, on one of Miles first albums "Milestones". that's where my handle came from-that song.                Milestones

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 04:44 | 4474406 Fogey
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I liked Coltranes work with Dolphy. I love Dolphy.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:33 | 4474079 Professorlocknload
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++ Well put, John. If what you are doing isn't working, do something else.

http://www.spencerjohnson.com/Book-WhoMovedMyCheese.html

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:27 | 4473539 buzzsaw99
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selling drugs and prostitution, well, it must be bad. americans have never had to do that before. [/sarc]

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:35 | 4473565 samsara
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For 10 (at least) stories of the OTHER end of the money scale.

The rich kids of Instagram are back…sorry

http://thechive.com/2014/02/24/the-rich-kids-of-instagram-are-back-sorry...

Look at the pictures and try to imagine what your day to day life is like.  What "Company" or "Position"  do you Naturally assume you are "Destined"  to occupy.  Like your father, his father and every other picture on the wall for a hundred years....

You are condtioned to believe you were destined to be fithy rich.

You Deserve it.

And They,  I suppose ... Don't

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:35 | 4473577 I Write Code
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Welcome

2

The

Obamanation!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:36 | 4473579 firstdivision
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Nothings going to change til shit gets violent, and hungry people are more likely to push the envelope.  Let's just hope the hungry know the proper people to look for and not their fellow starving citizen.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:39 | 4473599 buzzsaw99
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dream on

I'll show you, when the chips are down, these... these civilized people? They'll eat each other. [/The Joker]

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:38 | 4473594 TheRideNeverEnds
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Look at the bright side, the worse it gets the more money the FED will print and give to the banks so they can drive the price of things up so it will get worse so they will print more money and give to the banks so they can drive up the price of everything......

 

I wonder what will happen when the banks own 100% of everything?  

 

They are getting closer every day. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:39 | 4473603 eddiebe
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We have lost our way. America was taken by stealth and lies and raped of it's wealth and goodness by the greedy and crafty right from the beginning.

But the resources were so abundant, and we the people so vigorous and willing to work and produce we were able to rise through cooperation as a people and were even strong and moral enough to support the parasitic and criminal elements.  Now we have forgotten as a people to build and to create and to grow what we need to be self- sufficient and content, able to be proud of our accomplishments.

The land itself is getting tired, our resources are getting depleted, our workers demoralized as they see their leaders selling them out at every turn. The corporations exporting the know-how gained over generations along with the jobs and returning to us cheapened goods that are sold to us on credit to keep us enslaved.

We do not have the means to show our children a moral code or the worth of honest labor and conduct, because it has been made worthless in comparison to lies and glitz and baubles, and the goodness made worthless and twisted by the craftyl liars that always want to take so much more than they are willing to give.

Unfortunately those that cannot learn from history and the golden rule are forced to be taught in the school of hard knocks and pain and bitter regret. We are seeing in real-time true tragedy in the making. 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:36 | 4473852 samsara
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Great Post.

Watching it unfold in real times.

There will be a million different stories.

Get Local, Get Real, Get Strong and Get Flexible

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:41 | 4473606 ShrNfr
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Obama ain't listening, he has a tee time comin up. Anyway, if it does not benefit one of his contributors, he could care less. Keep the serfs back on the plantation and make them think you are helping them so they vote for you. Bah!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:21 | 4473627 Cabreado
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There is only a handful of reasons why people would hang out here, for long periods of time,

and bitch about the economy, markets, govt et al,

but choose to bitch more about an author/format when the unpleasant details/on-the-street are presented.

Lots of self-exposure going on here (in the comments)...

it always happens that way, eventually... self-exposure, I mean.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:51 | 4473909 IridiumRebel
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I could bitch about Michael Snyder and his pre-planned playbook listing of our shitty economy, but these folks are hurting. One has to ask themselves what all of these people have in common. They all have been worked by a failing system, making crappy choices and suffering the consequences with little relief in sight. It's bad out there. ZH makes it's bread by highlighting this stuff for clicks. I'm fairly ok with everything whether we shit the bed or recover as a country. Jury is still out. Just be good people to each other. I'm currently lightly working and going back to school while enjoying my wife and kid with another on the way. I'm angered by the trajectory of the country, but I'm also understanding of what matters. Be good to each other. Help where you can. Do you're best and know that you are the master of your destiny. I was damn near dead 8 years ago and decided I could do better. Some folks aren't so lucky. No need to look down on your brethren; Mikey Snyder the DoomKing included.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:39 | 4474100 Cabreado
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"No need to look down on your brethren; Mikey Snyder the DoomKing included."

While you forgot to point out where "Mikey" Snyder is looking down at anyone, there is some irony in your statement.

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:57 | 4474156 IridiumRebel
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See what I did there?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:57 | 4474158 Professorlocknload
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IR, +,

 

Seems when the chips are down, it's better to look at the positive, than to wallow in the negative. It's easier to spot or create opportunity from the former vantage point. Negativity feeds on itself and distorts decision processes.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:17 | 4474737 L_Conquistador
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Thanks for mentioning family.  Reading these stories, I couldn't help but wonder how many of these folks were single moms, or how many of these people could have been helped if they had a better extended family.  My wife and I are blessed, and I am committed to saving money while we still can.  I want to be able to help members of my family from situations like this.  

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:00 | 4473710 Godisanhftbot
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 #11 - morons loading up on bitcon on the say so of vermin like Brian Kelly of cnbs.

 

 #12 Folks paying 350 two days ago on Mt Gox thinking they were stealing money. 100 now

 

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:16 | 4473777 Gold Dog
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I haven't been posting here for a while but couldn't sit this one out.

Raw materials + labor and/or energy = Prosperity

You guys are smart enough to get it- Drill Baby Drill. $30 a barrel oil would change the whole game.

Dog

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:28 | 4473823 Bonecrusher
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These are sad stories of good people.  For those people that actually want to work and are mobile, the oil patch in south Texas and Midland/Odessa is booming.  The oil industry, service industry, construction, all the supporting infrastructure are all desperate to hire people.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 01:00 | 4474173 Professorlocknload
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North Dakota same.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:42 | 4473873 My Days Are Get...
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First, give Mike Snyder a break.  If he didn't write some articles, people here wouldn't have anything to complain about.

Next. It's bone-numbing cold outside here.  I am damn glad to be inside and warm.  If I were outside, living in a car or under a bridge, I would trying breaking good first and then breaking bad next - anything to get out of the cold.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:57 | 4473937 mumbo_jumbo
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"There are times that I cry at night wondering what happened"

"what do you think about this"

the answer to both questions is extremely simple, this is the result of exporting all the well paying jobs for the last 30 years, it's not rocket science, it's just math. Most Americans don' even make enough to pay income taxes (and they are the ones being blamed for that)

i can't help but notice all the same spin the last time the economy was in this very same place,

my pre-rich republican friend would always tell me in 2007 "this is the best economy never told"

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:18 | 4474038 Hongcha
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We haven't even started correcting yet ...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:40 | 4474101 22winmag
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Who cried for the millions of Americans who used to work on the farms and in the coal mines for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and were dead in their 30s?

 

Anyone?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:46 | 4474118 RabbitOne
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These are the same horrible desperation stories that most people have been ignoring for almost 50 years in America. They ignored the stories because prior to 2008 the destruction was in pockets of America. The pocket I worked in was as filled with human devastation like this article It is called Detroit.

 

Each day I watched the pain filled faces come up to my car in Detroit as I got off the free way in downtown Detroit. It was always the same story another auto plant had closed and people had finally run out of their savings and were desperate for any help. Now everyone is seeing the devastation of Detroit because it is bankrupt. But those down trodden people I saw are long gone from Detroit.

 

Now I am retired and instead of seeing people come up to my car they are filling my computer and TV screen. What I saw happen from the socialist experiment in Detroit is now happening on the national stage. I can only assume it will end the same as our politicians hollow out America and feed the population crumbs to keep them in-line until the collapse…       

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