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Russian Ships Carrying Soldiers Said To Be En Route To Sevastopol
Those tracking the developments in the Ukraine, and specifically the Russian response to this weekend's coup, will be interested to note that according to the Russian flot.com website, the large landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov, previously known for its participation in the Syrian naval arms build up, is expected to arrive in the Crimean port of Sevastopol carrying 200 armed soldiers, sent from the nearby Black Sea town of Temryuk.
From Flot.com
Today at 12:00 from the Russian port of Temryuk should arrive in Sevastopol, the large landing ship "Nikolai Fil'chenkov" with 200 soldiers on board. This was reported today by the chairman of the Ukraine "Freedom" faction Oleg Tyagnibok citing sources in the Crimean.
"I can show you the text message" - said Tyahnibok and read: "Today at 12:00 is expected the arrival from the port of Temryuk in the Russian Federation in the city of Sevastopol large landing ship Nikolai Fil'chenkov from the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. It will bring about 200 armed soldiers from the 328th Marine battalion, who are based in Temryuk and 10 BTR-80."
He also noted that "on February 22-23, ... IL-76 flights airlifted from Kubinka (Moscow region) to Anapa, personnel from the 45th Airborne Special Forces unit and additional divisions were relocated via four Il-76 flights from Pskov to Anapa. And from Sochi to Anapa were transported six Mi-8 helicopsters"- said Tyahnibok.
This appears to not be an isolated move as the naval build up seems to be escalating. In a concurrent release, Izvestia Kiev reported that out of Kubinka, four ships carrying special forces, are being relocated to Anapa. From there, in four hours, they will depart fo Sevastopol at a speed of 10-15 knots, citing "Izvestia in Ukraine" as a source. According to the source, the redeployment is "qualitative, not quantitative" and that the Ukraine is following these developments.
It remains to be seen if the Ukraine, or its brand new NATO BFFs, will respond in kind.
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Heaven forfend! 200 whole troops?!? In one ship?????
Run for the hills of Sochi! Lock up your daughters! And for God's sake, HIDE THE VODKA!!!!
It's probably more like 2000 troops plus armored vehicles and fuel for them.
Hey "Tyler Durden," do yourself a favor, check latest Russian polls, and stop embarrassing yourself.
According to the latest polls in Russia, 73% of Russians feel that Russia should not interfere in Ukraine.
shhhh be vewy qwiet. we are hunting black swan.
.. and so begins the proxy wars.
Just don't forget that the financial wars have been ongong since (at least) '08 when markets crash, Paulson panicked, and the Fed began a policy unprecidented in recent times.
In days of old there have been empires who debased their coins (Rome) and used paper to patch up debts (China). Apparently Bernanke et al decided to do both.
Cue necktie-chewing politician in Tblisi.
Unfortunately the revolutions come when the masses are hungry. It is hard to be truely intellectual and live a passive lifestyle. With no great war the recent generations have bastardized pop culture - a culture made to bastardize - and let their elders use the 20th century wisdom of "economics" to debase the system.
Now the elders will retire and leave the shit hole for everyone else to clean up. The problem is there is not enough people, let alone energy (ie growth) to take care of the elders' needs and lifestyle. The system will change no matter what policy dictates, as words are hollow in the face of reality.
Winter is coming. For thiose of us ready we can dream of spring, but most people have forgotten how a season feels on the back of the neck, as they are used to a/c. When the cold of winter blows a chill across the backs of those who are in need of a paper charade to continue, they will bite more than their neckties to stave it off.
Russian marines will hold off on the invasion til Ukraine secures its IMF loan...
The financial world is currently a clusterfuck of proxy war, debt manipulation through currency printing by the non-governmental central banks, and overtures by politicians quick to sell out the people who voted them in to represent them.
The reigning paradigm of economics is used as a textbook to sell the actions taken by the policy makers while the militaries of the psuedo governments make moves like the world is a grand chessboard. A financial imploslosion here, a false flag there, all while the first world races to and from their jobs just to recline in the face of a soap opera and a microwaved dinner.
One reason for the scramble is that no one is currently a super power. Russia gave the title of heavyweight over to the US, but the US gave up the title when they started using steriods - an easy monetary policy to keep rates near zero - in '08. Now it is a scramble to the top of the trash heap while the people of the world fall to the bottom, and more and more do everyday.
Maybe they want to assist the 300.000+ Tatars during prayers. Make them all Russian citizens after Stalin deported 80% of them. Even Turkey filled its request for Crimea ergo http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/25693129.asp
This is becoming targi-comic. Ukraine, a country of 45.000.000 people is not Georgia and Crimea is not South Osetia. I don`t think Russia will invade anyone, but I do admit they are in a very bad fix. I`m a ZeroHedge reader since 2009, since its inception. Tyler you can do better. Don`t waste credibility on this idea. If war brakes out in Crimea the situation will go south rather fast, with full blown civil war in eastern Ukraine that will spill into Belarus and Russia. This means millions of displaced and economic hardship. The Russian oligarchs don`t want that so it will not happen.
I do admit this is very difficult for Russia and they must retaliate, but I don`t think it will be in Crimea.
Edit:
And a even bigger problem for Russia. This just out (not verified):
The snipers on Instytutska Street were soldiers of the special operations unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MIA) and special operations unit “Omega.” Assisting with the preparation of the special operations was a former first deputy of the Russian Military Intelligence Service (GRU).This information was announced by MP Hennadiy Moskal, who referred to documents obtained with help of Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) and MIA employees.
If true Russia has a very big problem on the world stage.
Its not about 'retaliation', its about strategic positioning.
They won't let the base for their fleet be threatened.
bwhahahahaha. "puny Russian dick wants a body count."
It ain't like the road ain't clear!
"next stop Berlin"?
what a wacko.
"Czar Puny" wants his painted pony now?
Well ALLRIGHTY THEN!
Military Industrial Complex controlled, RINO John McCain is flying in a C-130 loaded with 500 TSA agents to intercept the Russian troops before they leave the ship. How do you say, "please take your boots and belts off" in Russian?
It was rumored that President Obama became sexually aroused when he heard that "a long, hard vessel full of seamen" was on its way.
That will be negociated with the US. Its about levrage, they don`t have much to put on the table right now. That`s what this is about, creating at least some leverage. The Russians are not stupid. Don`t get me wrong, this is the biggest US geostrategic victory in 25 years. Putin has to retaliate ergo https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/437340416506335234/photo/1
Syria for Sevastopol? Comex default vs Crimeea? Ask Putin!
and see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7cqjiPtdY&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop
You seem to be taking this $h!t personally - the Tyler's just report the news in their own light - get a hold of yourself man
Man, what a See I told you So..
The Post-Olympic Hint as to what is next in the Ukraine
200 soliders...
limited kill (eh, involvement).
tanks, I dont think so, remember what they did to the polish government? remember the fake volcano/hey you cant fly at the same time? Talk about brazen.
my favorite brazen is when diana was put to rest in the tunnel in france, and as a distraction, --mother theresa-- dies (quietly retired?). I mean really, the theater owners are having performance after performance, and if you are just complaining, you are not watching the show. Taking over a planet is sloppy as hell, these guys are doing it, I can find no forum or website where folks cheer the insanity along. Forget about getting your chance to direct ! Celebrate the almighty insane who have all the power ! Whatever are their dinner parties like? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9csUBxxWeI
@ Josh Randall
Big points on the Bounty Hunter reference! '50s Westerns at their best.
FORWARD SOVIET!
(I mean it this time)
I wouldn't carry it that far, sometimes things are much much simpler than they appear but the consequences on the other hand...
BTW, nice exchange between the two of you...
My take is that if Putin is offered an easy way out that allows him to save face he will.
Say, Western Ukraine secedes, Eastern Ukr. merges with Russia via some sham plebiscite. The Crimea obviously stays in Russian hands...
And Vladimir Sese Seko Putin goes home makes some more money...
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As for Syria, the smart people are more than willing to watch that fester for years to come as it occupies Al Queda et al.... Keep it simple with no chemical weapons and you guys are free to kill each other to your hearts content... It is a Shia-Sunni cage death match. Why would anyone sane want to stick their head into that...
And as for the South Pars Field, call that a strategic long term reserve...
Estern Ukraine does not hold a Russian majority. Only Crimea is 61% Russian, in Kahrkiv and the Donbas Ukrainians are over 50%. There lies the rub, if civil war brakes out you will have millions displaced just 400 kms from Moscow. Russia knows this better than me. I just studied the area a lot and actually live just around the corner :). I don`t think it will happen. I also don`t think they will lose the base in Sevastopol, the US has no interest there, but they will negotiate (maybe Snowden extradited). The contract for the base was actually extended in 2008 when Timoshenko was PM, so its a false argument.
But this is a major major blow to Russia. I don`t think the US expected such success in this operation. I have been to Ukraine many times and corruption and abuse of power was rampant, the population was trampled on. I guess it just blew up.
Putin is Snowden's jailer by design. the US yanked his passport on purpose when they knew he was in Moscow....
And Putin only wishes that he could implement what Edward has let on to be the NSA capabilities...
Are you Wangluo shuijun?
These guys? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Water_Army
Nope. I`m just a person that has the views he mentioned. I think we should use our intellect (that is why we come here) to discuss more plausible scenarios and don`t waste time with false arguments.
I`m not trying to convince anyone that my views are correct. I might be 100% wrong and I accept that. I just find the argument `Putin sent in the marines` and `Russia will intervene in Crimea` rather fullish because it will not happen. Russia can`t afford full blown war 400 kms from Moscow. They are trying to get some leverage on the US. And I guess its very difficult if they already started with the tanks.
Reports indicate that western leaders are on way with money to talk to the radicals.
I sincerely hope they will be there to welcome Vlad when he shows up to party.
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"Do you see what happens, Barry?"
@ Soul Glowing Guy
Bernanke also took up borrowing big time.*
*Required because we elected sucj sleazy politicians.
WAIT!! There are still some Olympic events underway
This on the same day that Chuck Hagel announces plans to cut the US Army down to 455,000 because we're just not warmongers anymore. Then, bam, Russia has to fuck it all up and make us warmongers again.
Shit, we tried.
/s
Back to World War 2 levels..
Umm... Make that Pre-WWII levels....
It was, I think pre WWIII
WWVD
What Would Vlad Do
Meat Hammer, Yes I read of these cuts today. The real cuts all come in costs of personel. Their health care, their subsidies of all sorts, benefits for families, housing allowance, pay and pensions. All the huge costs associtated with volunteer forces. In my day we got 250 dollars a month and a few bucks for the wife, after 4-6 years we left and never claimed any benefits. Today, most military members are in for life, the DOD will be funding them till they pass. I always said, that the real cost of the volunteer force would only become apparent 25 years on. Well, now we have to pay for millions of career people into their retirements. They say that benefits, pay and pensions will eat up the whole DOD budget at present growth rates. If America is worth defending, then we need the old system back. I give 6 years,, I get paid enough to drink and whore on liberty, my 6 is up, I go home and get a job and support myself. DOD got 6 years of service, and I haven't cost them a dime in 30 years!
Regular enlistment term for Army is 3 years. When we had a draft, draftees were in for 2 years. Navy & Air Force term is 4 years.
It was quite a dilema for a young man. Volunteer for 3, and get to sign up for special training to enhance your chances for a "safe" MOS, or take your chances with the draft and assure yourself of a quick trip to a combat zone, then get out in a year...hopefully in one piece.
There was still a 6 year obligation if they wanted you in the Gaurd or Reserves.
But you are absolutely correct. This volunteer (mercenary) Army we have now is waaaay too expensive, as is all the outsourcing to private contractors. Bring back the draft, and watch all this foreign entanglement evaporate. It was the Viet Nam anti-war movement that showed the country how to stop wars, and no coincidence that the draft was eliminated right after that war ws over. The MIC realized they had to build a mercenary army if they were to stealthily go to war at will in the future.....and here we are.
My Naval Rate required a 6 year enlistment. That was because traing took 2 years, They wanted 4 years in the fleet, so all of us had to enlist for 6.
My infantry training took 9 weeks, + 2 more for "Advanced Infanty School", then 2 more for Leader School.....then, adios & good luck.
Of course, I speak from the Enlisted Ranks. Not very familiar with requiremenst for Officers.
What did they train you to do that took 2 years? I bet you had some great duty & enjoyed you service, especially in retrospect.
Jack Burton : "My Naval Rate required a 6 year enlistment. That was because traing took 2 years, They wanted 4 years in the fleet, so all of us had to enlist for 6."
Since enlisted, I'm guessing nuke or advanced electronics ?
My guess, too, if enlisted.
"My guess, too, if enlisted."
The term 'rate' is used for USN enlisted.
Dup
With the crazies running loose in D.C. it almost wouldn't be surprising if they proposed 'fast tracking' Ukraine membership in NATO next. (A future McCain proposal ?)
Hmmm . . . how many 'useless eaters' can they eliminate in thermo-nuclear WW3 ? (Perhaps not imminent, but taken one dangerous step toward it at a time).
But didn't some general say (perhaps in a movie spoof) - "If there's just one of us left in the world, and none of them . . . . we win ! "
Be careful about nuclear war. The useless eater you eliminate may be yourself.
"This on the same day that Chuck Hagel announces plans to cut the US Army down to 455,000 because we're just not warmongers anymore."
Stop being fucking obtuse. You have been around here long enough to know how this shit works.
You heard Chuck Hagel's words -and now You see his actions.
the US does that shit on purpose...
"when you're strong, appear weak..."
Meat, he wants the funding to go from the Army to the DhS.
They need moar ammo.
you ever notice that, whenever we come out with these defense cut lies and bullshit, they always say they're going to get rid of the A-10 Warthog? seriously, every fuckin' time... you know why?
because the Russians are _scared to death_ of the damn things... their nickname for it is "The Devil's Cross" because in profile it looks like a Greek Orthodox cross when viewed from the ground...
I swear to God we mention that plane in passing every so often just to remind Russia that we can turn tank forces into confetti at will...
http://youtu.be/33teK7L4DM4
Read & learn folks - - -
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/23/democracy-murdered-protest-uk...
that has to be one of the worst collections of bullshit, innuendo, and diatribe I've read in a long time. What were we supposed to "learn", what an uninformed idiot this guy is?
Love the part where Georgia "invaded" South Ossetia with an Israeli trained army. good god . . .
Umm... which article did YOU read?
Yeah . . . guess he knows more than a former Assistant Sec of the Treasury who was involved at the highest WH levels & authorized by the president to evaluate CIA studies regarding the Russians.
Roberts also has a Phd in Economics, had various academic professorships/research positions at Stanford, Georgetown, etc, etc - was an editor at the Wall Street Journal, and has written several books on economics - - - -but what the heck. The heckler has it all figured out - - - hilarious.
PCR was Right On!
shhhh be vewy vewy qwiet. Vladimir Fudd is huntin sumtin...
Should rename West Ukraine "Sorosistan".
Think about "Who's" money George manages...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-17/vladimir-putin-the-richest-man-...
Bloomberg?
Bloomberg is the friend of the dictatorial billionaire.
Actually, Russia issued a search warrant against Soros. I think that only Russia and Thailand have done similar things. This is real, no joke.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-putin-issues-arrest-warrant-for-...
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Because they drink too much and have liver disease?
Hey Cunt of Reason
Why aren't we hearing more about this guy in Kiev? Is he the one taking the polls?
Thank you for the link, Mr. Nemo.
Israeli ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports
"According to reports, the unnamed Israeli commands a group of 20 Ukrainian militants."
"Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev."
"Meanwhile, Ukrainian media said that an Israeli tycoon provides financial support to the opposition in Ukraine, adding that Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency is one of the instigators of the unrest in the country."
The theory behind using "useful idiots" is that they are actually useful.
But the current crop of kgb's (what's her new name) propaganda trolls just keep repeating the same tired shit endlessly that not even a 5yo believes it anymore.
The old cccp is red with shame... give it a rest!
the only thing missing from this pre-programmed fiasco is the close-up of the fat lady singing at the Opera House.
Friggin' Elmer Fudd arrives to save the Wabbit!
Victoria Nuland spoke at the National Press Club on December 13, 2013 - Video
Victoria Nuland (jew) admitted that the US government has spent over five billion dollars to subvert the Ukrainian government.
The Talmudic-Neocon kiss of death! Too bad the Nazi's are taking over Ukraine and the "velvet" just turned into black leather.
PCR says the whole thing is backfiring big time!
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/23/democracy-murdered-protest-uk...
Once again, The Tribe is up to their old tricks.
Despite calls for neutrality in Ukraine protests, young Jews are on the front lines
"Despite calls by Jewish leaders to remain neutral, young Jews have been on the front lines of protests against Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich."
"Alexandra Oleynikova, a young Jewish activist involved in organizing Limmud conferences, told [The Jerusalem Post] that while some Jews stayed away out of fear, others had flocked to Maidan."
"These Jewish protesters, she said, 'stand there nights and days; they really live there now and they help people who come to find accommodations. They bring food and they collect money.'"
"Some young Ukrainian Jews who work for international organizations such as JDC, Hillel and Limmud are 'really active' in offering support as well as 'organizing the barricades,' Oleynikova said."
"On November 30, when government forces staged a massive push against the barricades, attacking and beating protesters, she said, 'my friends were on the front lines of the fighting against the troops.'"
"Reading about the protests on Facebook and seeing anti-Semitic comments is different from the reality on the ground, Oleynikova added."
"son of captain Nemo" I thank you for giving me my laugh for today! +100 "Hey Cunt of Reason"! Too fucking funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dup
"73% of Russians feel that Russia should not interfere in Ukraine"
73% of French ppl felt that their should not have interfered in Mali or Centrafrique...
"73% of French ppl...", (100% of whom are douchebags) "felt that their should not have interfered in Mali or Centrafrique..."
Phix'd ti fer ya.
Centrifuge...fixed
"And Napoleon took a poll before invading Austria."
"...73% of Russians feel that Russia should not interfere in Ukraine."
Yeah, but 96% of those were so drunk they just fell on their faces instead of answering the question.
..."73% of Russians feel that Russia should not interfere in Ukraine"...
That's pretty funny considering that 73% of the Ukraine is Russian.
Right, now anyone remember how Americans polled before Afghanistan and Iraq?
Funny that you ask...
as expected, better propaganda...
Obama invaded Afghanistan...Bush Iraq.
Just so everyone here is on the "ludicrous speed" playbook.
No...Ukraine did not invade anybody.
Well, re: Afganistan, now that is truly debatable...
Flak, I believe you have just shown conclusively that most Americans get just exactly what they deserve! How can they complain when they themselves support the most insane actions of the crazed neocon warmongers. The question Americans should have been asked is this "Do you think you should sit home of the soffa stuffing your face while a paid hired military goes overseas and kills hundreds of thousands for no reason other than Bush want's to be a war president"?
To this day, many Americans believe Saddam Hussein of Iraq committed 9/11 NOT America's ally Saudi Arabia. Now, how can you feel sorry for such brain fucked nit wits.
Agree..good post
No real argument, but when it comes to rah-rah let's kick some ass, a lot people enjoy being fooled without fully grasping the consequences...
Given the importance of informed electorate, the state of news and the decline of print journalism, what do you expect re: the responsibility for 9/11....
I am in a minority here, but if you were playing a game of global Risk in 1998, the prize territory laying on the table post Soviet collapse was Iraq. Cheney et al. played for the win and it is too early to tell if they got it...
And Americans better not forget that their standard of living relies on winning....
I pass no judgement, all this is merely observation...
Minor quibble: It was Saudi Arabian nationals...
I up arrowed you for 95% but that last part is debatable
Flak: "And Americans better not forget that their standard of living relies on winning...."
I agree with most of what you said, except the above (often repeated) line. The bankster fiat system has stolen the value of more than 97% of peoples earnings & savings over the last century through inflation. It has enabled numerous wars to be fought in which incredible numbers of Americans - sons, husbands, and fathers - were killed and crippled for life. ( I know this from personal experience - having lost my father to war.) America couldn't have entered WW1, which later brought about WW2, and the post war current system that exists under the shadow of potential thermo-nuclear war - wthout the current system being in place. Much of American resources have gone to fuel this monster which seems to focus more on killing than living. Many Americans (who've had so much of the fruits of their lifelong labors stolen from them) are in debt or no longer have outsourced jobs.
Americans haven't really been 'winning' anything for a very long time. They're just beginning to find this out now.
rumsfeld: you know georgie, powell has an impeccable reputation for being an honest man.
bush: yea, so?
cheney: well you know, sir, people generally believe others who don't have a bad habit of lying.
bush: get to the point.
cheney: we need to send colin to the un with some story that saddam not only has wmd's but also is trying to produce more. the public is against sending troops into another country, while we still haven't finished the job in afghanistan and still can't produce a bin laden corpse.
bush: ha ha. that fucker (may god rest his soul) is a ghost. no one will ever find him. hell, that would mean "mission accomplished" - time to pack up and bring the boys home. i'll recommend to my successor that, if he wants to have any hope at getting re-elected to a second term, he better make some theatrical production about capturing and killing bin laden and ask hollywood to produce a film about it. you were saying?
rumsfeld: yes, sir. and even better is that we can also secure the colored peoples support. marketing research shows "minorities" are more likely to believe powell (and rice) over any of us wasps...
cheney: so sir, what don and i are trying to say...is that we need to get powell out in front of all the world's and our media to sell the Operation Iraqi Liberation, er, uh, the Operation Iraqi Freedom campaign...
bush: that was a freudian slip dick. tsk tsk tsk. no, need to correct yourself, but do ensure the proper branding. (falls into day-dream) ah...finally. i get to have the last laugh. that's right, saddam. i'm taling about you. you tried to have my daddy killed. i'm gon' fuck you up!!!
rumsfeld: thank you for the approval, sir. (gets on phone to mr. powell). colin, i have come into the posession of some pretty damn good intel. you have to see it. i can't even believe what i see here, but it looks like a slam dunk. saddam's been trying to acquire more weapons of mass destruction...
that's how it went down. ;-)
[edit: aw, do junkers have no sense of humor? oh, yea. i forgot. down-voting is an act of humor. i love you all!]
Don't worry about junkers. It's the hit dog that barks, and Neo-cons really don't have much of a sense of humor.
You give Bush way too much credit...
He'd go if Dick and Don asked him WWJD?......
since when the general public decide what to do regarding the wars and politics?
If general public mattered there would be no wars
Which is why they got rid of the draft.
Hey ALL, Cunt_of_Reason, a NEW Bigger Ass on ZH! Now leave poor Fonestar alone. I at least liked him!
edit....can't spell, sorry
Yep... its spelled Cult and the joke has gotten stale very quickly...
Poor Fonestar, he should have taken the money and run while the getting was good...
Geez, its their home base. They just return to base, nothing sensational here...
Agreed.
These troops were probably deployed to Sochi for the olympics.
they were probably in the Olympics actually.
And yes "they cheated and won."
Phuckers.
"Now give me back your medals and get to work."
U butthurt about the olympics or did Vlad cum in your old lady's eye?
I agree, except all their base don't belong to them no more. Or so it seems. It's like giving the wife control of your company for tax reasons and she goes and divorces you. or gives you some kool-aid.
Cult:
Hey Cult of Reason - stop embarrassing yourself. Your Brussels' trolling is increasingly disconnected from reality.
So you are going to tell us some Russian poll shows 73% of Russians favor abandoning the land that once was the capital of Russia. Sure. Talk about disinformation. Or an LSD trip . . .
Deal with this - your EU trolling is lunacy. If you think the Russians are going to kiss off their warm water port to a bunch of right-wing EU kumquats in Kiev, think again.
If you think the industrial base of Ukraine is going to turn their country over to the dirt-poor western sector, think again.
If you think the new oligarchs who just displaced the old oligarchs are going to sink the boat in favor of a bunch of flakes still holding out in the square, think again.
If you think anyone is going to go to a hot war with MAD still hanging over humanity's head, think again.
If push comes to shove, it's Hungry in 1956.
Just as then, Russia already had the military presence in the country. It was not going to let a bunch of euros destroy the wall it had put up to protect itself from their next Hitler.
When all is said and done, the square will be cleared of the protestors, the new oligarchs with play "Let's Make a Deal" with Putin, and the IMF/ECB/FED troika will tuck its tail and pray Putin’s vengeance is survivable when gas prices go through the roof.
Take that to your Brussels' bosses.
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relax dude.
"you'll get your Glorious Bodycount" soon enough.
Obviously if you wish to Volunteer "your Patriotic Service to the Motherland will not go unnoticed."
Who is clamoring for a bloody body count? From my perspective, just the opposite. This was a hard-nosed look at reality. Too bad leadership in the US can't see it. Waiting now for Obummer's new line in the sand. What a bunch of amatuers. Dealing with this in a sober way could actually spare bloodshed.
Putin has been training his whole life for situations like this. Obama has been training for....???
Where do you place your bets, political leanings aside?
The People all clamored for freedom.
Nuland's gang then selected who'd lead them.
IMF and big banks
would like to say thanks
as the deed to your nation you cede them.
Is Ukraine now part of the GWOT? If so, should I get that big ass flag out for the bed of my truck?
That's "Hungary."
Yeah, and 98% of Cypriots did not want their money taken... What's your point??
Because we all know how much Putin is swayed by polls...
hey cunt without any reason.
you are only allowed here because tyler believes in mentalist care within the community.
now shut up bitching or go fight with your gay friends mccain and john kerry cohen
Hey, don't forget McPain's loyal sidekick, Miss Graham!
Watch it Tony
Using cunt really pisses off Flak.
She doesn't ike that word.
Someone should slip a cunt over your head and fuck some sense into you....
burp
Always like to read your posts tony!
+1 up
Just pull off a shot at a Russian to find out how far your whore polls is worth..
Russians won't sit around waiting for next poll result to see what to do before kick your ass..
Yeah, Tyler(s). Everybody knows how much Poot'n gives a shit about polls.
What difference does that make?
"According to the latest polls in Russia, 73% of Russians feel that Russia should not interfere in Ukraine".
These polls was conducted via flunky Washington Naval'nyi or directly via the U.S. Embassy in Russia? LOL
Hmm.. let’s see.. a littoral approach is good, but it will take just a wee bit more to get the job done…
-One convoy for the instant 20 hectare+ internment camp.
-One transport vehicle filled with tie-wrap cuffs for those who drop to the ground with hands behind their heads.
-One convoy filled with 7.62, 5.45, 12.7, 20 mm. 30 mm, 43 mm ammo, RPG’s etc. for those who do not drop to the ground with their hands behind their heads.
-One convoy of Spetsnaz to get the party started .. or maybe they will just drop in from Antonovs.
-One convoy of facilities for the intelligence service armed with all the videos to sort out the worst
-Then, of course the armored vehicle convoys and the 100K+ troops to put the party in full swing.
-Oops, can’t forget the disco ball, strobes and sound system.
I missed my calling as a party planner.
I wonder how many will make it out alive to Siberia.
FEMA wants you!
Where were you when gulf war 1 was doing logistics prep. Good party list, but you are missing out the all important camp & catering. XBONE's do not plug themselves in, and nobody likes Russian MRE's (potato & salt pork; 4 years old). Locals do not take kindly to orders of 10,000 Big Mac's every day.
Ship is a hauler, the marine expedition I suspect is to defend the Novograd complex should those on the take (and there is alot of them, right down to the municipal protection rackets) suddenly need the urge to escape. Remember, many of the Russian population are landed migrants who have not been Ukranians in estate, tax or passport since 1989. If the Rada suddenly decides to start reviewing the selective enforcement of contract law (one of the KEY reasons why so many Odessians identify as "russian" speaking, HINT: MARATIME LAW TAX LOOPHOLES + UREA MARKET EXPORT OFFICES) then I suspect we will see a black market panic.
Back to markets, let's go see what Home Depot is doing, those lumber margins look pretty interesting.
Geez, I forgot all about the Dim Sum and Sushi.
They will probably just bring it in with the petrol convoy.
you mean the attackers or the attacked?
it SHOULD be over in a week. On the other hand "so was the US Civil War."
Not in one Russian LST, it ain't. "2,000" in the whole Russian amphibious fleet, maybe. But if Russia were moving forces, why would they do it in ships? Last time I checked, there was this continent called "Eurasia" that pretty much meets all their maneuver options.
Just my best personal guess --- these forces were previously deployed to protect the Sochi Olympics just about 500 miles away... You could move the troops over land (Russia's not exactly known for it's high quality roads, particularly in the Caucausus region) or by boat and kill two birds with one stone: bring in more troop reinforcements and bring another group of warships into the immediate area.
I don't think Vlad is going to sit by and watch. He doesn't want barricades and protests in Moscow. And if he doesn't watch out and help his buddy Lukashenko in Minsk, where I used to study, he's going to find that he doesn't have many friends on his western flank (or front, depending on perspective).
Roads are for bitchez who can't drive and need rear-view mirrors, but wadi-bashing in a Kamaz can be a riot. Vlad's got two direct rail lines to Kiev from the east for bulk transport of armor, artillery, and apcs.
https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/dfnsindust-ukraine.jpg
For certain, these troops are going home to barracks after protecting the region around the Olympic games. This is likley a normal troop movement. Also, Russia has, since before World War I, favored sea transport for troops in the Black Sea ports. It allows bring heavy equipment along. Plane travel is not always a good option for troops with their own heavy infantry weapons.
As for Savastopol. Russia will not hand this Russian port over to anyone, unless the entire troop strength has been killed in battle. A look back on the battles for these ports of Odessa, Svastopol and Novorossiysk in World War Two would be instructive as to how Russia feels about it's Black Sea Ports. West Ukraine will take Savastopol the day I am crowned Pope of Rome as a non-practicing Lutheran.
This is just alittle protection for their base, at most... it may just be rotating back from Sochi. In any event, it's hardly an invasion or anything like a force intended to occupy Crimea.
Kind of a bullshit scare porn article really...
Raimondo: Mobs rule the day – but a peaceful solution is possible
200 apears twice, I think they ment 200 not 2000
maybe, if we are lucky, putin will call back the troops he's loaned to Obama to fire on American citizens in the coming collapse and the consequentially justified marshall law.
More likely 200 snipers?
Yeah. More alarmist bullshit. Putin knows that drawn out conflicts go down badly which is why he exited Afghanistan and wants to calm down the Caucusus. Ukraine wouldn't be anything like Georgia which is a mouse compared to Russia.
On ZH alarmism: anyone remember the HSBC, Russian, Thai and Chinese bank runs? What happened to those? I still haven't found an independent source for the Russian bank run of late January, only other doom and gloom forums that picked up ZH.
But get the hell out of Dodge!!!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-18/bank-runs-spread-thailand
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-24/bank-run-fears-continue-hsbc-re...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-23/china-bank-run-beginning-farmer...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-28/russian-bank-halts-all-cash-wit...
Moar war, just what Uncle Sugar wants,
Moar war, just what Uncle Sugar wants,
Uncle Remus is going to be singing "Zippity Doo Da "out of that black ass very soon if he keeps this up!
with at least one submarine not far away.
BTW, your Black swan one-liner was one of the best I have seen here in years...
\hattip....
The spark that lit the fuse
“Frankly, the legitimacy of many governmental bodies is in doubt there,” ... “Treating masked men armed with Kalashnikov rifles, who are now circling Kiev, as a government – we would find it difficult working with such a government.”
If I were Medvedev I'd be one pissed off SOB too!
But wha's not to like about Kalashnikovs!?
Well, they are difficult to clean.
I know it seems to be the weapon of choice the United States government sends to it's foreign mercenaries around the World like the FSA.
Speaks volumes about the M16 doesn't it?
Maintaining an M16/M4 requires a bit more training than maintaining an AK. Hugo Schmeisser and Werner Gruner knew what they were doing.
+ 1
Maintaining an AK is so easy even a Bearing can do it!
Cleaning my guns also gives me a little bit of meditative peace.
difficult to clean.... Huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3SYDl0Tm0
Yep . . . damned easy to clean.
But many don't bother for a long time & a lot of rounds.
Watch that if youre shooting corrosive stuff though. (Especially in a humid environment. The residue from the spent primers attracts moisture and can cause rust.)
But they still shoot when they're dirty.
...or wet.
Just dunk the AK in a barrel of gas, swish it around, and shake.
It don't need no stinking patches.