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South Carolina City Implements Law Requiring $120 Permit To Feed The Homeless

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Gandhi famously noted that:

The greatness of a society and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.

I would agree with that, as well as the obvious observation that a society’s greatness can also be judged by how it treats its most vulnerable members. This isn’t to romanticize homelessness or to condemn it. It is merely to note that the homeless are fellow human beings going through their own struggles and difficulties. You may not want to provide them food, but some people do, and there should never be an infringement upon such a basic human right as sharing food with someone who needs it.

Civil rights are often lost in societies by politicians scapegoating unpopular minorities. This happened with jews, gypsies, etc in Nazi Germany and we must be very careful the same does not happen here. One human being should be able to voluntarily give food to another in all cases, without exception. The concept of a permit needed that costs $120 per week is fascist, anti-human and downright evil.

From the Examiner:

Feeding the homeless is about to get harder as a new policy is set to begin this Saturday, Feb. 15, in Columbia, SC. Charities and non-profits well be required to pay a fee and obtain a permit 15 days in advance in order to feed the homeless in parks.

 

One impacted charity that was interviewed by theFree Times, Food Not Bombs, has been serving food to the homeless in Finlay Park every Sunday for 12 years. The group’s organizer, Judith Turnipseed, noted that the group has an impeccable track record and always tidies up after the meal. But with the new crackdown, Food Not Bombs will have to pay at least $120 per week for the right to feed the homeless.

 

Since the Columbia City Council approved its exile plan in August, the city has been trying to herd its homeless people to a shelter on the outskirts of town and keep them away from downtown. If charities continue to provide food in downtown parks, the thinking goes, it will allow homeless people to continue to live downtown, rather than being forced to leave.

Remember the famous warning:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Socialist.

 

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

 

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Jew.

 

Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

- Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

This is how it always starts. It reminds me of the fact that debtors’ prisons are making a huge comeback in the U.S. It’s always easiest to pick on the weakest members of society, which is why we shouldn’t.

Full article here.

 

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Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:23 | 4472805 Major Major Major
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No sharing your food, bitchez.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:31 | 4472842 ZH Snob
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but on the plus side, the citizens may legally feed the stray dogs for free.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:33 | 4472848 jbvtme
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judith turnipseed?  is this the onion at work?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:41 | 4472891 knukles
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If you like your food, you must keep your food.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:50 | 4472926 Atlas_shrugging
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"Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too" -- Judge Elihu Smails

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:58 | 4472977 Ignatius
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If only.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:04 | 4472988 Looney
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.Gov should get out of the Giving Business all together, including tax deductions, permits, etc.

Looney

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:23 | 4473045 Looney
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Looney, you are an idiot! (as in the "buy-the-fucking-dip-you-fucking IDIOT).

Dot-gov should get out of ALL businesses altogether… Period! (as in the "keep-your-doctor" PERIOD)  ;-)

Looney

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:50 | 4473185 GetZeeGold
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Here...call them up and let them know what you think.

Please don't be heartless to them....unless you feel like it.

 

Councilman Sam Davis
803-545-3066
sdavis@columbiasc.net

Councilwoman Tameika Isaac Devine
803-254-8868
tidevine@jilawfirm.com

Councilwoman Leona Plaugh
803-782-1947
lkplaugh@columbiasc.net

Councilman Brian DeQuincey Newman
803-250-2568
bdnewman@columbiasc.net

Councilman Cameron Runyan
803-545-4401
carunyan@columbiasc.net

Councilman Moe Baddourah
803-545-4424
mobaddourah@columbiasc.net

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:51 | 4473213 Crisismode
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"Are there no prisons?" he asks. "And the Union workhouses? Are they still in operation? The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" 

"I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there."

 

Ebeneezer Scrooge

"A Christmas Carol"

Charles Dickens

 


Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:30 | 4473557 Squid-puppets a...
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with news like this its time to GLG

(Go Long Guillotines)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:38 | 4473583 MontgomeryScott
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On the rest of the page, a bunch of side-tracked and useless racially-inspired speech ensues, where the Jews, the Muslims, and the Blacks all get their share of racial profiling regarding the decisions of a bunch of white cracker owners on the plantation America called 'South Carolina' (a division of NWO, INC, founded 1871).

YOURS was the last thoughtful posting regarding this story, 'Crisismode'. God help us all.

Post script: Sorry, I forgot the references to drug users and the FSA...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:52 | 4473925 Head_Shots_Work
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I just emailed the quote to all of the addresses so thoughtfully provided by getzeegold. The internet is an interesting and powerful tool. What would have occurred in 1936 if people world wide were instantly made aware of the atrocities being done to their neighbors, friends, or people they cared about. I am getting ready to get up from my couch and go call some people and...oh - wait a minute - that looks like a new Ax Men coming on!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:34 | 4473571 Lednbrass
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Hmmm... I have a better idea. As you seem quite put out at the thought of junkies not getting food delivered, perhaps you can organize an effort to bring them to your area?  Send bus fare, I'm sure they'll be happy to send you all the meth heads and heroin addicts you need.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 04:44 | 4474408 MrsMerkel
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NEIN!

Vee do nicht like the drogen-heads

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:52 | 4473672 americanspirit
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Thanks Gotzegold - just sent each this reference "The law, with its magnificent sense of equality, forbids both the poor and the rich alike from stealing bread or sleeping under bridges." Victor Hugo, Les Miserables

The more things change .....

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:51 | 4473207 Crisismode
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double post

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:26 | 4473327 Osmium
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You'll get nothing and like it.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:48 | 4472927 Atlas_shrugging
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..

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:22 | 4473072 max2205
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Minor set back for the FSA

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:25 | 4473083 max2205
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Somebody has to get paid to clean up the trash after they all litter up the park...just saying

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:16 | 4473774 Mike Hunt III
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Maybe you missed this part?...."the group has an impeccable track record and always tidies up after the meal"

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:47 | 4472928 macholatte
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The greatness of a society and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.

 

It could be argued that Muslims treat their animals better than they treat their women.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:10 | 4473016 Looney
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Instead of droning them indiscriminately, we should start dropping PORK on their villages - indiscriminately as well! ;-)

Looney

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:23 | 4473074 Flakmeister
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Perhaps a crop duster modified to use bacon grease.....

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:00 | 4473249 nmewn
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Infidel!!!

(A fatwah has been issued) ...lol.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:23 | 4473308 U4 eee aaa
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Bacon bits bombs?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:02 | 4474340 TBT or not TBT
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Why not all of the above. We can afford to be whimsical with thing, if the fed keeps the greenbacks coming.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:41 | 4473369 Boondocker
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I saw a Muslim strike his wife in the sandbox.... wish I could have dropped him....a religion of  hate and violence....

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:52 | 4473402 Osmium
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Sandbox?  Never heard that one before.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:04 | 4474342 TBT or not TBT
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It's not a body part. It's a planet part.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:23 | 4473515 chemystical
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Hasbara out in full force tonight? 

Try this, "It could be argued that jews treat their animals better than they treat their goyim."

i.e. go FUCK YOURSELVES, YOUR TALMUDIC FILTH*, AND THE DOUCHEBAG STOCKHOLM SYNDROME SUFFERERS.

"...and then they came for the Jews."  DAMN SHAME "THEY" DIDN'T START AND END THERE.  WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE.

* "The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."  Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form."  Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."  Coschen hamischpat 405

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."  Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."  Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

 

 



"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."  Jore dea 377, 1


"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."
Talmud Sanhedrin 74b


"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."
Sepher ikkarim III c 25


"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."  Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5


"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."
Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b


"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."  Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

etc etc

 

 


Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:35 | 4474363 Laretes
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You find these same statements about non-believers in Christian scripture and the Quran as well. Nothing to see, move on.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:35 | 4472863 Manthong
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Feeding them in the park..

kind of like room service.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:18 | 4473300 Manthong
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Someone does not agree…

Maybe it is a bit much to ask them to walk to the church or the shelter for free food.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:30 | 4474068 SDShack
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The intent is to force them to go get EBT cards and participate in SNAP. To be dependent on govt, not private charities. It's quid pro quo. The govt. gives you bread, you give the govt your vote. What the sheeple don't realize is they have willingly become slaves to feast on the crumbs from the masters table. Hunger does that. When the slaves outnumber the bread from the master, the slaves have to be culled, or revolutions start.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:16 | 4474730 yrbmegr
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It's ugly.  Elites turning up their noses at the plight of the less fortunate.  Trying to make the homeless invisible, as if they were not created equal.  Despicable.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:00 | 4473707 Fail2Deliver
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That is a shameful new law Columbia. We are better than that.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:45 | 4473877 Ness.
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Apparently you're not better than that.

 

Although you do have nice golf courses and plenty of strip joints.  Hmmm?  Priorities, right?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:37 | 4472864 Jumbotron
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Well.....this is the state, after all, that prides itself in firing the first shot in the defence of slavery.

I guess for South Carolina.....homeless is the new N*gger.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:44 | 4472895 Son of Captain Nemo
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And how could you possibly expect anything less from a State that has a two term Senator that is a closet homosexual and establishment "Zionist wonk with" his faithful side-kick John McCain.

Oh almost forgot... A born and raised Federal Reserve Chairman and a flag that has a Palmetto on it!

What could go wrong?!!!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:40 | 4473172 Sinnedi
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I guess being tazed for talking about mystery schools that existed before religion is not as bad as Intelligence drivel zionism.           http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:40 | 4473173 Sinnedi
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I guess being tazed for talking about mystery schools that existed before religion is not as bad as Intelligence drivel zionism.           http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:40 | 4473175 Sinnedi
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I guess being tazed for talking about mystery schools that existed before religion is not as bad as Intelligence drivel zionism.           http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:41 | 4473176 Sinnedi
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I guess being tazed for talking about mystery schools that existed before religion is not as bad as Intelligence drivel zionism.           http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:48 | 4473389 espirit
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Double tapped tazed works very time.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:14 | 4473034 I need Another Beer
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Fucking Idiot, the war of Northern Agression was fought over trade and taxes that were imposed by the Northern Industrialists against the South.It won't be be much longer and your boy obama will make lincoln look like a saint. 500,ooo Americans killed under Lincoln's watch, bet ur boy can beat that number

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:25 | 4473082 Flakmeister
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I may have missed it, did you mention something about the Cornerstone speech?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:25 | 4473088 Charles Nelson ...
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Recent totals put it north of 700k.

Tom DiLorenzo's book "The Real Lincoln" is a great read - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0761526463

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:39 | 4473165 MiltonFriedmans...
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Dilorenzo is employed by a Jesuit university. Could that be clouding his thoughts? Methinks yes

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:28 | 4473543 chemystical
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Grant's General Order No. 11 should have been implemented nationwide and in perpetuity.

Edicts of expulsion have been decreed in dozens of countries for hundreds of years.  No need to ask yourself why.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:35 | 4473139 Jumbotron
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The good thing about being a fucking idiot , I OBVIOUSLY need NOT TO HAVE another Beer, is that it makes it easier to spot another one,

Part of that whole trade and taxes bullshit you puked out was that for the South their trade and GDP, not to mention the pocket books of the plantation owners, would take a SERIOUS hit if they weren't able to take advantage of all that cheap labor that for the most part had black pigmented skin.  There were a lot of white trash that were caught up as well.  But they did have an advantage simply by being white.

The very nature of the textile trade and the agriculture trade depended on cheap labor.....( hmmmm....didn't I read that from a Chamber of Commerce press release concerning Amnesty......NAAAAHH !!! )

Free up that cheap labor.....give them the right to a living wage, worker's rights, a VOTE....OMG, NOT THE VOTE....and simply the decency of being considered MORE than just 3/5 a man.....that was the AGRESSION my evil Southern ancestors were fighting against.

Motherfucking, slave-holding, crony, corrupt capitalists.....the likes of which have blown up our world, in part, chasing down cheap brown labor from down south of the border and over the western pond in Asia, India....and LO AND BEHOLD....LOOKEE HERE.....WE"RE BACK TO AFRICA AGAIN !!!!

I hate some of the policies that Lincoln enacted during the war that stuck like herpes in perpetuity afterwards.  But the South deserved to get burned to the ground.  My home state of Mississippi deserved the same fate.  South Carolina deserved to go up in flames by Sherman.

And that same good 'ol crony boy hypocritical corruption exists there to this very day.

But if you REALLY want to blame anyone.....blame the FOUNDING FATHERS FOR BEING TOO CHICKEN SHIT TO ABOLISH SLAVERY FROM THE GET GO.  They pissed ALL OVER the whole "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL" concept.  For GOD's SAKE.....TUNISIA.....FUCKING TUNISIA abolished slavery before we did.

Obama is not my boy....BTW.....fuck him and fuck you.

Go stick a Natty Light up your ass and whistle Dixie through it.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:42 | 4473183 I need Another Beer
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I got ur rope, Boy

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:03 | 4473260 Jumbotron
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Ain't skeered, Bubba.

It ain't long enough and you ain't gonna stop whacking off on it to use it if it were.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:56 | 4473230 MeMongo
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Hey jumbodouche lay off the hooch!...:-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:02 | 4473257 nmewn
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Geez dude, you do realize there were black skinned plantation owners right?

I guess not.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:20 | 4473301 Jumbotron
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Just another reason that the South deserved to burn.  My anti-South stance concerning the Civil War has nothing to do with the color of one's skin.  It's the principle of liberty.  Anywhere where one man holds another's freedom in his or her hand.....whether that be a white hand or a black hand....deserves Fire and Blood until the man who is held by the hand is free.

And the land that was formed on the principle of freedom....the first and only to be so.....deserved it all the more as an everlasting testament.

If any of you, regardless of the extra-Constitutional moves of Lincoln, for one second still believe that Lincoln's sin against the Constitution was worse than the Original Sin the south perpetrated against the Original and First Cause Principle of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, that being the enshrinement of all humanity's right to be free......then you are not lover's of liberty but charlatans.

No wonder this country was doomed from the beginning.  Between the Federalists, including Washington and Hamilton, destroying the Articles of Confederation in favor of the Constitution and the enactment of the country's first Central Bank, to the cowardice of people such as Jefferson who, while espousing Freedom better than any man during that time, still held other men and women in bondage.....even having sex with one in which from his standpoint of the master / slave relationship, was tantamount to rape,

Oh....but keeping the country together was more important than another's man's freedom.  Liberty will out.....even if she must shed blood and burn the edifaces of bondage to the ground.  For Liberty is in the hearts of us all. 

One more thing......if you don't like what Lincoln wrought, blame the Founding Fathers.  There would have been no need of Lincoln if the Founding Fathers, including Jefferson, had not been hypocrites concerning Freedom.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:53 | 4473408 espirit
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WTF?

You must be lacking historical education.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4473652 Jumbotron
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Obviously you went to public school.  Everything I said is not only verifiable fact but is also the truth.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:14 | 4473477 Lednbrass
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There is no evidence whatsoever that Jefferson had sex or kids with Sally Hemmings, the only thing that can be said is that a male line Jefferson fathered the last child. You're repeating the tabloid slander of the day from people who hated him.

The article that broke this "story" was retracted, the DNA study absolutely did NOT show that he fathered any of her offspring.  It did show that someone in that male line did, but that's it.

Report is available in its entirety here, done by actual research capable historians and not pop culture idiots-

http://www.tjheritage.org/scholars.html

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:17 | 4473489 nmewn
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"Just another reason that the South deserved to burn.  My anti-South stance concerning the Civil War has nothing to do with the color of one's skin.  It's the principle of liberty.  Anywhere where one man holds another's freedom in his or her hand.....whether that be a white hand or a black hand....deserves Fire and Blood until the man who is held by the hand is free."

Ok, I guess we're done then. Your man was Sherman.

You're a fucking moron who doesn't have the slightest clue of what happened, why it happened and why you can't get past it.

In short, you should have escaped from the indoctrination camp you called a government school. Your man Sherman...

"On July 5, 1864, Federal General Kenner Garrard's cavalry reached Roswell and finding it undefended, occuiped the city.  General Garrard reported to General William T.Sherman on July 6, 1864 that..." there were fine factories here. I had the building burnt, all were burnt.  The cotton factory was working up to the time of its destruction, some 400 women being employed."
   

   Former Associate Dean of Emory University, Webb Garrison writes of the destruction of the Roswell Mills.  He says..."incidents of this occurred repeatedly throughout the Civil War.  Had the usual attitudes prevailed, the destruction of the industrial complex would have ended the matter. That it did not was due to the temperament and inclination of the man (Sherman)."
   

   What General Sherman did next would shock good people in the North and create a mystery that has endured to this day.  On July 7,1864, Sherman reported to his superiors in Washington... "I have ordered General Garrard to arrest for treason all owners and employees, foreign and native (of the Roswell Mills), and send them under guard to Marietta, whence I will send them North."

http://www.scv1547.org/History.html

Your generals Sherman and Sheridan (among many, many others) were not much better than the Einsatzgruppen. Sheridan remarking after the war "The only good Indian, is a dead Indian." can only give slight insight into his homocidal tendencies.

So, how about going and fucking yourself or just STFU about shit you have no clue of given your brainwashing.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:43 | 4473619 macholatte
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History is written by the victors.
-- Winston Churchill

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:11 | 4473750 nmewn
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Yes indeed my friend...but they can't erase any of it, only omit parts of it ;-)

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 14:42 | 4473795 Jumbotron
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What a fucking idiot you are nmewn.  Nowhere did I say that Sherman was my man.  I have no man nor woman....when it comes to heroes.  Read the post again asshole.  A rightfully convicted murderer is executed by an executioner in an electric chair at the behest of the state.  I may agree with the sentence and still find the electric chair abhorrent as a device, the executioner may be an asshole like you and the state a monstrosity.  But all three of these facts combined are less an affront to me than the injustice of a killer going free.  It's the same with the south in the war.  And you're not telling me anything new about Sherman's character even concerning Indians.  My ancestors were Chickasaw....my great great great grandfather was Tishamingo...king of the Chickasaw nation way back when.  So fuck you and your butt hurt feelings about the south and Sherman.  We deserved to have our liberties taken away by Lincoln and our country burned to the ground because we first took away the freedom of other men.  I'm not saying we should not fight and claw back our freedoms lost after the war.  But we....and especially you dickweed, should grow the fuck up and take responsibilty like an adult.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 20:37 | 4478182 nmewn
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"We deserved to have our liberties taken away by Lincoln and our country burned to the ground because we first took away the freedom of other men."

WTF are you talking about? The colonial powers of Europe INSTITUTED slavery here and everywhere they went. Why do think I hate kings & queens with a "purple" passion. Lincoln didn't give a flying fuck about slaves, he said so and on top of that...you really REALLY need to re-read the Emancipation Proclamation and see where he left slavery in place...behind his own lines.

You're brainwashed.

"But we....and especially you dickweed, should grow the fuck up and take responsibilty like an adult."

Responsibility for what?

My family didn't own any slaves and there are no slaves to take "responsibility" for. They're all dead Jumbo, they died of old age. Have you ever heard of the Black Codes of the North after they were freed?

Doubtful.

Why don't you go ask the Spanish or the British etal monarchies to pony up for what they started? Go pry the jewels out of their crowns or sumpin...idiot.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 06:09 | 4479355 Lednbrass
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The Chickasaw fought for the Confederacy and owned slaves, they clearly deserved to die.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:36 | 4473580 chemystical
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"Original Sin the south perpetrated against the Original and First Cause Principle of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, that being the enshrinement of all humanity's right to be free."

Intellectual fraud.  Union states that were slave states during the War of Northern Aggression: Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia.

Let's examine this time line of moral frauds: 1) some northen states realize that slavery is wrong.  2) northern states SELL their slaves to the south (rather than free them).  3) northern states invade southern states, and later invent the pretext that it's because slavery is wrong. 

 

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:48 | 4473388 Lednbrass
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Jumbo, you're a fucking idiot. Its annoying when you bipolar types lose your meds. They were fighting against the aggression of being invaded, Lithium Boy.

How many states allowed blacks to vote in 1860?

The answer is...4!! Four states in the entire union, North and South. If in fact the war was to free the blacks, don't you think it likely that the Union states would have allowed them to vote?

Read up on the Black Codes in place in every Northern state (Yeah, you actually need to read some books. Not fucking likely, I know).  Why were blacks prohibited from even entering some Northern states without posting $1000 bond (Illinois) if allowed at all (Indiana)?  Why did some Northern states (Connecticut and New Jersey) amend their state constitutions long before the war to forbid blacks having voting rights?

Barely over 5% of the population owned slaves (download the 1860 cwnsus and crunch the numbers, the data is there) you really think soldiers on either side fought over who had pet Negroes? Really? Read some actual books from vets of the war, nobody gave a damn about them on either side. You will in fact find a large number of memoirs of Yankee soldiers who make it crystal clear that they despised blacks utterly and had no interest in whether they were slaves or free.

You have a cartoonish, Nickelodeon/Disney Channel view of American history. Please atone for your pathetic guilt and go slug down a quart of Drano.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 23:40 | 4473866 Jumbotron
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Jesus help me.  Another fucktard like nmewn who can't read.  Nowhere in my post did I ever hold up the north as a paragon of virtue.  They most certainly were not.  I am simply stating the south deserved what we got from a karmic, if you will, standpoint.  Once again....as I told nmewn...I'm sorry you're butt hurt over the truth.  But grow the fuck up.  If our precious Founding Fathers had taken care of this at the beginning, this would not have been an issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 07:02 | 4474493 Global Observer
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Yes, the self-deception was there at the beginning and it includes the talk about liberty too. The revolt of the colonies against the crown was never about liberty, it was about not having to be accountable. Having won, they had to pretend it was about something lofty and invented "liberty". Sound bites that Americans keep mindlessly repeating till today.

Liberty for most Americans of that day meant depriving the natives of their lives and lands. So the Southerners didn't find anything really odd about holding a few slaves to work the plantations. If it is OK to deprive someone of their life to get hold of their property (which practically every white American or one of the ancestors was party to without any guilt), what is not so OK about depriving someone of their liberty for the fruits of their labour, especially if they weren't of one's kind?

But to their credit, the founding bandits did stir up imaginations with that document called the constitution, although it is extremely doubtful if even one of them believed it.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:39 | 4473597 Psquared
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I fought the argument that the CW was about slavery by making the psuedo argument that it was really about economics for a long time. That dog won't hunt. It WAS economic only because slavery provided cheap labor, but that makes it about preserving an inhuman instutition.

I have lived here all my life and I've come to the conclusion that while the rest of the country has it's problems I think there are more deranged psychotics and narcissists (READ: bigots and racists) here than any other part of the country.

James Pettigru once said, "South Carolina is too small to be an independent nation and too large to be an asylum."

One day I will move far away from here and change my accent.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 00:11 | 4474004 Head_Shots_Work
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Sorry bud, but I've studied this carefully for the last 20 years. Go back and read your history - and I don't mean the revisionist crap that comes out today - but read the newspapers and letters of the early 1800's. One nice slim book you might try is called "1831: year of eclipse" but there are many more out there. You will find that the reasoning and justification that the south gives to their eventual collapse in common sense is "states rights" (it always makes me think of that quote by that Japanese General - what the fuck were we thinking?) - but what the underlying root cause of this is undeniably the slavery issue. The shame of it is that now - when slavery (at least based on color) is illegal, when it appears what we may need most in future is the ability to splinter away from the slimemold called the federal government, people like you who continue to plow that unfertile and idiotic line of reasoning harm the cause of those of us who would argue that NOW we have a real reason - and a real right - to explore this separation. I will agree with you that Lincoln and his party acted unconstitutionally when they went to war to force the union to continue, and yes, it seems as if the more powerful northern political interests had abused their control by implementing their tariff's - hurting the south in order to protect and engender northern manufacturing growth - but let's face it - if the union had failed I'd be signing off like this: Sieg Heil

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 07:07 | 4474500 hunglow
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15 yards next season

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 19:34 | 4477955 Dark Space
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You must be referring to the War of Northern Agression, in which the Yankee states attempted to take away the rights of the Southern States to self-govern. They did this under the guise of freeing the slaves although Lincoln only freed slaves in the South (not in the North) with his Emancipation Proclamation. Just 150 short years later folks like you think the whole things was just about slavery and that everyone in the South today are racist hillbillies. Good luck with that limited view of the world.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:45 | 4472913 Offthebeach
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In this economy a town political elite got to do what they got to do. Tax what you got. And homeless, car livers, shead homesteadders, cellar dwellers are a growing industry.

Assistant Fire Chiefs driving 3500 Diesel Surbubans to check smoke detectors aren't cheap. Who's going to pay the GLBTG counselors at the Middle School or fund the town council to fly to France to meet the Sister city?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:15 | 4473043 knukles
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The whole fucking thing is a charade of waste

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:28 | 4473097 Trucker Glock
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"No sharing your food, bitchez."

And no dropping your quarters into someone else's expired parking meter. Comply, savages.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:35 | 4473149 Woodyg
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Food Not bombs IS on the terrorist Watch List - because feeding the Hungry is an Act of Defiance AGAINST EMPIRE and the fascists in the governmental and corporate worlds who created the conditions for much of the currrent suffering that seesm to be going around nowadays.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:23 | 4472806 The Gooch
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DO. NOT. COMPLY.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:26 | 4472812 cossack55
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It seems they may at last be coming for the bankers.  And all I did was cheer.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:49 | 4472933 TheReplacement
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Don't forget the fascist politicians, CEWhatevers, and all their operatives.

Edit:  And the MIC

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:25 | 4472813 Cacete de Ouro
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Solution: Just ignore the Columbia City Council and give their councillors a good kick in the nuts when you see them. That should do it.....

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:24 | 4473080 jez
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How about if those charities were to charge each homeless person one cent for a plate of food? Would that obviate the need for this stupid license? Or would that just cause other complications -- having to register as a business or something?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:33 | 4473349 cynicalskeptic
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You have any idea of how many regulations apply to 'food service'?  Approved and inspected kithens, regulations on storage and preparation.......

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:25 | 4472814 Pumpkin
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Fucking what?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:32 | 4472835 fonzannoon
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what a mess.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:40 | 4473174 RSloane
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Not really. Its working as intended. Columbia SC is rapidly gentrifying and a lot of money is being poured into parks, recreation and city areas around amenities. Parents were complaining that their children could not use the parks due to drugs and other behavior children should not be exposed to. The council and residents want the homeless to vacate the park. I completely understand that parents do not want their kids running around on broken needles and beer bottles, but there was never any consideration given to the homeless in terms of offering them a better life nor any type of solution that would be helpful to them. People want them to get out and get out they will. Out of sight, out of mind. Even if they cancel their plans to fine people and make them get a permit for acts of charity, the homeless will still be removed most likely by cops for petty violations.

This type of behavior on the part of local government is getting more and more common for cities who are trying to expand their tax base and deal with crime by removing populations. Its the wave of the future and its heart breaking.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:20 | 4473304 nmewn
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I was going to touch on that, I seen it when I lived in "the city".

You don't want to advertise "free food" as you will draw more hungry to the park, from surrounding areas too. And some bad elements with that.

You're right, I seen it at Williams Park in the burg, the cops will come in and roust them out, eventually. Needles and shitting in the bushes ain't cool. We all tend to think someone just down on their luck and a few locals to give charity and help in some small way, thats not always the case.

But for the city to cut off (make harder) the act of genuine charity (through a fee) shows a little more than heartlessness. Its profiting on the heartlessness too.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:55 | 4473415 cynicalskeptic
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Sadly too many homeless should be in treatment for mental illness.  Their behavior leaves a great deal to be desired as far as public venues goes.  The local homeless shelter is located close to the city centere but 'out of the way' in the sense that it's near a hospital and across from a church, bounded on one side by a major road but otherwise not particularly close to any private residences or  heavily trafficked (with pedestrians) areas.  

While 1/5 to 1/4 of the shelter residents are actually WORKING (albeit in low paying jobs that do not pay enough for them to afford a place on their own - rents are expensive around here) another 1/5 of the residents have SERIOUS issues (even defecating on the floors of rooms at the shelter).   I used to see the same types under the elevated Bruckner either drugged out and sitting there all day or ranting and raving at unseen bogeymen depending on whether they were on or off meds.  

Deinstitutionalization took the mentalliy ill out of both good and bad hospitals - and dumped most of them on the street with little support.   And as compassionate as you migh twant to be in the abstract you aren't likely to voluntarily put up with their behavior on a regular basis.  The church across from the shelter mentioned above has recurring problems with some of the homeless from the shelter for these reasons. Untreated, their behavior is 'erratic' at best, often unsocial and occasionally a real danger for others.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 13:40 | 4476114 Offthebeach
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Back in the 60s there were a lot of old fire trapish Victorians that rented rooms cheap. Bums and poor souls could clean up a saloon parking lot, break down cardboard boxes at stores, wash windows and scrape enough change to drink cheap and get off the streets at no cost to the public purse. Well the rooming houses were zoned, inspection failed out of business, small human businesses were taxed to best and highest use ( make them bleed ) giving way to national chains. Next came the wellfare profiteers of shelters, advocates and others also living off the tax payer.
We always had shelter dwellers, its just now it has been profitized by public/private 'non-profit' corporations that do superfine for theselves by doing "good", supposedly.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:28 | 4472823 nmewn
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So .gov doesn't want people feeding people via charity or at least, wants its cut.

Whats the problem, cutting into its action? ;-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:37 | 4472869 Big Corked Boots
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The $120 is just an administrative fee... that's nothing to the government.

What I want to know is, what is the fine for violating the law? I bet that's where the real money is going to be made!

(Just thinking like a local Jersey political goon, is all. You got a problem with that?)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:49 | 4472943 nmewn
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No doubt (the fine & goon part).

Hey, dats a real fine lookin basket o rolls yah got deh. My cousin Vinny likes rolls to, ya know what I mean? How's bout ya go round dey every day or so and we'll let dis little feedin da homeless widout da proper papers go eh? Youze scratch my back, I scratch yours huh?

Ehhh, its bidniss ;-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:26 | 4473090 NotApplicable
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Most all of the food from the "Food, Not Bombs" folks is either headed to, or taken from a dumpster. Should be entertaining.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:45 | 4473191 nmewn
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Good point, if it keeps the hungry from digging through the trash and people volunteer to distribute it to them (and have people set it aside for them to distribute, which is mor likely the case) I don't see a problem with it.

Except for .gov wanting its cut.

There has to be something more to this, like a crony nephew of a councilman/woman, with a "licensed" sidewalk cart selling food ;-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:51 | 4472955 TheReplacement
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For lawyers... The town and the first charity to violate are going to the Supreme Court on this one.  This is actually a big deal.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:32 | 4473129 DriveByLurker
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I propose a simple amendment to the ordinance so that you need to give advance notice and purchase a permit to give EITHER food to the homeless OR money to a political candidate or party.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:10 | 4474345 TBT or not TBT
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Thou shalt not compete with government dogooding.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:28 | 4472826 Cdad
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I think this a perfect candidate for a small scale test of the Return of the Rope and the Lamppost.  Honestly, if members of this city council believe that charity requires a government permit, there should be no quarter afforded them.  None.

Period.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:39 | 4472883 Jumbotron
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I bet you the majority of the council are either Republicans and / or affiliate with their local flavor of Tea Party.  This is not a slam on either group.....just simply saying that I wouldn't be surprised to find this out.....because this simply REEKS of hypocrisy.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:54 | 4472963 TheReplacement
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Who cares what they call themselves?  They are tyrants.  You are not what you say you are.  You are what you do.  It's a really simple system for judging character.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:57 | 4472973 Jumbotron
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Amen to that.  I remember hearing someone say back in the 70's that when fascism comes to America it will be called "Americanism" and "Patriotism"

Looking back on it.....I think I had been in the presence of a prophet.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:59 | 4474384 TBT or not TBT
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A hobo bag limit might have been indelicate, so they went with this.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:58 | 4472976 Jumbotron
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Tell you what....you downvoters.  I'll do the heavy lifitng for you and google that shit up.  Seeing as how that's too heavy a load and you're too chicken shit to face the truth.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:01 | 4472986 Jumbotron
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Whew....ok.....that was tough

First up....here's the council people's email.

Let them know how you feel.

Back soon with their political proclivities.

 

http://www.columbiasc.net/city-council/council-profiles

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:03 | 4472994 nmewn
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I already did the heavy lifting for you just below.

Spot the tri-cornered hat wearers ;-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:06 | 4472999 Jumbotron
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Here's the mayor.

http://www.columbiasc.net/mayor/about

 

Well....could be wrong about the Tea Party or Republican......LOL !!!

I stand corrected...at least with this cat.  But tyrant.....oh YEAH, The Replacement, doesn't matter what they call themselves when they act tyrannical none the less.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 22:30 | 4473555 Lednbrass
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And once again Jumbo, you show yourself to be mentally deficient- Columbia is firmly in the grip of Team Donkey.  

A complete lack of knowledge of the subject didn't stop you from running your mouth though, which is at least amusing. Seems to be a trend with you.

GET MOAR MEDS!!!!!!

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:07 | 4473008 Jumbotron
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Well.....nmewn.....just make me look slow.   LOL !

 

Good on ya, mate !

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:11 | 4473015 Jumbotron
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Oh yeah....that Mo Baddourah is a character.

"Businessman of the Columbia City Council"......translates to......."Good 'Ol Boy Stooge for the Banksters"

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:14 | 4473040 nmewn
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This marks him as TP? How's that?

Pretty sure majority rules, why don't you look up how they all voted? ;-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:27 | 4473092 knukles
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There ain't a fuckin' Tea Partier, Libertarian, anything vaguely right of far left center in that group.
Jesus.....

It's a buncha Marxist Commie Cloward Piven Big Gubamint Redistributionist Incarnates from the Holy Seplechure of Somebody Elses' Money

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:56 | 4473231 Jumbotron
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Most politicians when they spout off about them being "Business Man" this and "Business Friendly" that, are cronies.  The crony capitalists have one of their own in the halls of government to make sure that THEIR interests are served and NOT the people.

Just look at that mess in North Carolina concerning the coal ash spill by Duke Energy.  Governor Pat McCrory was a Duke employee working his way up the food chain until he was given his orders by the boss to run for City Council of Charlotte which he won and used that success to win the Mayor's seat of Charlotte.  The only problem was he was still on the payroll of Duke Energy.

Then he uses the Mayor's position to launch his bid for governor which he bought....errr.....won with the help of a million dollars from Duke.

And then he stacks his administration with other Duke cronies including the Secretary of Transportation.

For part of their reward Duke did not have to spend a whole lot of money cleaning up the mess of coal ash they had been producing like the other utilities in that state.  Isn't that curious.....the other utilities did it.....but not Duke even though they were blatantly breaking the law.  All Duke did was bury it in unlined holes in the ground alongside rivers and around aquifers with pipes that would drain the supposedly clean water after the heavier particulates floated to the bottom out to the rivers.  These pipes and the earthen dikes surrounding the ponds are what broke precipitating the spill.

But hey....McCrory is the "Businessman" Governor.  He's a Republican who recently....out of HIS OWN MOUTH....said he was siding up to the Tea Party.

I betcha "Bo" is just the same type there in Columbia, SC.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:40 | 4473366 nmewn
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"Most politicians when they spout off about them being "Business Man" this and "Business Friendly" that, are cronies."

Understood and I'll grant without debate your general point.

But there is another side of cronyism, the opposite side, if you will. The soul sucking, locked up on a .gov plantation because one is made to believe thats all there is for you in life. This is ones fate, to live in .gov housing and protect the master who provides this menial existence for you, its all you have and you don't want to lose it. You will fight for him/her and it.

You can always overlook "the master" rolling up in his or her Benz because they always bring goodies, "hope" and hatred for what you don't have.

It is "the other side"...surely you see this.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:27 | 4473031 nmewn
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The mayor is a past president of the states NAACP, yeah, we get a lot of those "free thinking smaller government types" in the TP...lol.

http://www.stevebenjamin.com/about_steve/

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:29 | 4473110 knukles
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Wears turtle necks so no one can see the Swastika neck tats

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:15 | 4473042 MsCreant
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I like the one with Tameika and Obama.

It is never wise to go down that party line. Keep us doing stupid shit like this in the comments section rather than focused on the bastards who think this is okay to do to people.

It is no one's goddamn business if I want to give all my food away, or not. 

Government get out of our lives!!!!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:31 | 4473121 knukles
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You found one of the few referenc3es.
Nice how the more "formal" profiles abstain form party affiliation or endorsements?

That makes then running sacred Dumbocraps.

hughs n kisses, msC

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:26 | 4473328 MsCreant
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Kisses back at cha'.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:55 | 4473412 Hulk
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you two go rent a page...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:36 | 4473154 nmewn
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"I like the one with Tameika and Obama."

Isn't that special :-/

Agree on the party line, that was my only point about defending TP, we are THE equal opportunity offenders of the status quo and everyone is just gonna have to get used to it.

We really don't care if its McCain's drooling attacks on us or Grahams incomprhensible sophistry or McConnell's backdoor pork...they're engaging in a criminal enterprise and we're coming for them, all of them.

But we really do hate socialists moar...to be completely honest ;-)

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 21:31 | 4473334 lakecity55
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uh, actually, they are mostly democraps.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:39 | 4472885 BoNeSxxx
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Draw and quarter perhaps?  I think that'd be ok.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:33 | 4473137 knukles
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Nah, that'd be racist.

Make 'em write "I will not steal anything anymore from anybody" in Cursive 1,000,000 times

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:30 | 4472829 Ignatius
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Extortion rackets for everyone!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:32 | 4472845 Stoploss
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"we must be very careful the same does not happen here."

"set to begin this Saturday, Feb. 15, in Columbia, SC"

Kinda looks like we're a little late as usual.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:33 | 4472846 monad
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You can't feed the homeless but you can still give them gasoline & matches and show them where the council members live. Nothing to lose means nothing to lose. Foolish assholes.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:30 | 4473113 Musashi Miyamoto
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When it becomes a crime to live a quite life, die a pirate king...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:33 | 4472850 Flakmeister
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You seriously couldn't make this shit up....

Jesus would not be pleased to hear that his (self-described) chosen people have strayed so far from the path of compassion....

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:44 | 4472909 Jumbotron
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Amen and testify brother !

 

"And the King will say, "I tell you the truth, when you did this to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me."

Jesus......Matthew 25:40

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:51 | 4472954 quasimodo
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It appears one of the city council members down arrowed you.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:55 | 4472965 Jumbotron
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Flak can take it.

What's a down arrow to 3 nails and a crown of thorns ?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:34 | 4472852 ncdirtdigger
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The homeless are the only ones downtown on weekends in Columbia (the armpit of the south). It is not as if they are bothering anyone.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:35 | 4472862 1fortheroad
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How much for a gallows permit??

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:37 | 4472866 Son of Captain Nemo
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And could anyone here possibly be shocked by this more than President Obama being shocked, "shocked I tell you"... by Russia's response over Ukraine?...

No oars in the water folks and the boat has run aground.  Think we need to rename it the "U.S.S. Taylor" for good measure!

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:37 | 4472871 One And Only
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Something about this 1 minute clip just seems so appropriate

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155590/i-dont-have-change

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:37 | 4472872 sheikurbootie
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Homeless- NO!  The "homeless" in Columbia are DRUNKS and drug addicts.  Being kind to the beggars is one thing, enabling them is another.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:47 | 4472922 Carl Popper
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Exactly. These cities are trying to solve a problem not enable it. Food is available thru designated programs.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:01 | 4472987 TheReplacement
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If people want to give of their own free will then so be it.  Instead you prefer that the government takes from me to give to these people.  You prefer that what is mine is taken from me so that those people you don't want to see can get a meal in an out of the way place so you can enjoy your downtown.  Funny, I thought public property was open to all.  Funny, I thought taking from people was theft.  Funny, I thought walling off the subhumans in a ghetto was a nazi thing.  Funny, I thought this was America where we have things like free speech and human rights so I can give someone a meal if I so choose as a statement that I don't believe in your politics or social structure and I will not comply.

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 20:37 | 4473157 Musashi Miyamoto
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I think I understand what your saying but let me clarify... Basically rich businessmen felt so bad for the poor, hungry, homeless people that they lobbied city council to ban feeding them...

Either your ignorant, an idiot, or just plain evil...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 03:20 | 4474355 TBT or not TBT
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Thou shalt not compete with gubbermint largess.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:53 | 4472935 Jumbotron
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And a WHOLE lot of them....perhaps the MAJORITY of them....are drunks and drug addicts in the pursuit of quelling the pain brought on by hopelessness.  Institutionalized racism.....the loss of a job due to the global wage (slave) arbitrage, the financial ponzi, the injustice system that beats down the man and woman after they are already down and out.

What have you done to "enable" them to STOP being beggars ?  What if that "enabling"hand out gave that person just one more day of life for a breakthrough to come their way.....by the simple act of kindness from YOU ?

 

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:38 | 4472873 yochananmichael
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why  not a bus ticket to Berkely?

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:38 | 4472876 BobRocket
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Someone should go out tonight and put a noose on the traffic lights at the corner of Main St and Laurel.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:39 | 4472879 knukles
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Why not just send 'em off to fight the terrorists in the Middle East.
He who wins gets to eat the donkey after he who looses... or maybe that's ass backwards... er...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:42 | 4472880 One And Only
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Serious question though...

With food stamps and all the other shit that the government provides how the fuck do people not have access to food? This isn't North Korea.

Ive seen news stories where UE people are walking out of grocery stores with lobsters for Christ sakes.

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:44 | 4472906 pragmatic hobo
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i think you need mailing address to qualify for food stamp ...

Mon, 02/24/2014 - 19:49 | 4472941 One And Only
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No, you don't....

Homeless Persons’ Rights under the SNAP/Food Stamp Program

http://frac.org/federal-foodnutrition-programs/snapfood-stamps/homeless-...

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!