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JPM To Lay Off 17,000 Mortgage Bankers In 2013 And 2014, Because The "Housing Recovery"

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The last time JPMorga had an investor day, Jamie Dimon explained to Mike Mayo why he is richer than him (and pretty much anyone else). This year, Jamie will be more focused on explaining to 8,000 JPM workers why after firing 16,500 people in consumer and mortgage banking, the bank will now let go another 2K and 6K in those same two groups (which will bring total mortgage and consumer banking headcount reductions between 2013 and 2014 to at least 17K and 7.5K, respectively). This may be tricky especially in the context of, you know, the housing and economic recovery, and stuff.

Source:  JPMorgan


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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:27 | 4474762 Headbanger
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But, it's all good!  Right?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:28 | 4474772 Levadiakos
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As long as Jamie's bonus is safe it's all good

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:32 | 4474785 jbvtme
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these are the lucky ones. pink slip without the nail gun...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:38 | 4474807 GetZeeGold
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Not saved or created the bankers jobs?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:53 | 4474815 Richard Chesler
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Burger flipping is a lot like paper pushing. Good luck motherfuckers!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:01 | 4474892 Ms. Erable
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Except that burger flipping adds value. Pushing paper... not so much.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:06 | 4474907 Dr. Engali
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Lead headline on Yahoo:


Housing outlook "still very positive," says PIMCO's Kiesel

Idiots..... the propoganda must continue.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:29 | 4475283 thamnosma
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Saw that as well, gave me my morning laugh over coffee.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:37 | 4474812 SafelyGraze
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the important metric is assets-under-management

not employees-under-management

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:50 | 4474853 gafgroocK
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Better spin up the Suicide Hotline

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:57 | 4474876 101 years and c...
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how long before the machines realize Jamie's salary restricts their stock trading and jamie is forced out?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:29 | 4474977 RSloane
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Not going to ever happen. Dimon has the full support of the WH and has been praised by Obama several times. He has way too much political and international banking power. It would be nice though if he was 'dispensed with'.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:35 | 4474997 Doubleguns
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With a nail gun starting at his balls. 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:29 | 4475288 thamnosma
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No fun if it's not on live TV. 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:39 | 4475334 Boxed Merlot
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Not going to ever happen...



Agreed.  It's more likely the in bedded publicists at Bloomberg will allow his residence be described as a "compound" before the administration disavows their allegiance to him.  They have yet to say, or allowed to be said, anything derogatory about our last architect of The Great Recovery, the Honourable J. Corzine.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 13:46 | 4476171 Atlas Crapped
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But at least if you get the nail gun, the BLS report remains the same because you get recategorized as "no longer seeking employment".

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 12:02 | 4475464 PacOps
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"As long as Jamie's bonus is safe it's all good"


Was or is it ever in doubt?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 17:04 | 4477214 waterhorse
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It might be in jeopardy if one of the little banksters decides to pay Dimon back (with a nail gun would be nice - one can always hope).

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 16:57 | 4477183 screw face
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Jamie is Mike Morgan's lackey!



Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:29 | 4474773 29.5 hours
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Yes, all good. In their own words, they are exceeding all targets...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:31 | 4474779 onewayticket2
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they must know that the obama admin is going to kill mortgage interest deductibility....and kill the market.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:18 | 4474938 tip e. canoe
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betya a silver dollar that won't happen before 01/14/17.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:43 | 4475029 new game
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at 40k/yr the standard deduction beats itemized...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:46 | 4475038 Urban Redneck
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Mortgage Interest Destructibility promotes debt serfdom (and preference for incurring debt as opposed to building equity at other levels) and misdirects capital to the (crappy) home-building industry-- the deduction needs to die.

But somehow I think the administration's intentions are less noble. Unfortunately for them, it will actually cost more to remove the deduction, than it will generate additional tax revenue.

Too bad doing the right thing is rarely easy or cheap.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:56 | 4475071 onewayticket2
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the admin's motivation zero to do with proper allocation of has everything to do with more juice for them to give away in an effort to create dependency.

(see:  slash military benefits and increase entitlements)

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:15 | 4475177 Urban Redneck
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The "creating dependency" is likely to backfire over the intermediate to long term.

But then we have President Profit-to-Earnings Ratio at the helm of the ship of State...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 14:04 | 4476311 Buck Johnson
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It's all good if your on the top.  We are being taken for the biggest ride ever in history.  There's a reason why we have this police state forming and the NSA spying on Americans etc. etc..  Because they know they will need that information and forces to help squelch the upswell of hatred that will happen when hyperinflation comes into being and when the US finally reaches it's third world destination where the rich and powerful live in gated estates and the rest have to live in a corrupt land of no jobs and lower pay.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:29 | 4474775 LawsofPhysics
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A good start.  Keep going motherfuckers.  Keep going until we have sound money again.

It will come to pass, one way or another.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:52 | 4474860 StychoKiller
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You're smart enough to know that nothing is gonna change for the better until after The Great Implosion™

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:19 | 4474941 nuclearsquid
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Unfortunately most of the layoffs will probably come not from the evil bankster scum, but from the 8-5 working Joe's with normal back office jobs.  These people haven't been given raises in like 4 years, and most likely not bonuses either.  They are just trying to pay their mortgage like any other schmo, and most likely will not be able to find a job in another bank. I suspect that if you parse paychecks and benefits they are quite a bit worse off than most public employees, before they got shitcanned. 

Alas, for those cheering the mass liquidation of banksters, what is really happening is that the concentration of evil in these places is increasing.

Disclosure: I know a few of these guys.



Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:26 | 4474964 Bangin7GramRocks
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I agree with you about not cheering when regular people lose jobs. However, this will be a nice vacation for these folks. As soon as Yellen jacks QE to $150 billion the 30 year mortgage rates will go back to 3% and a new wave of refis will begin anew. Rinse and repeat!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:50 | 4475047 Bunders
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Trollish, retracted.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:03 | 4475103 Urban Redneck
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There is no such thing as a "Mortgage Banker", Mortgage Banking exists, but the employees of a Mortgage Banking Division are called TELLERS (or more derogatory terms).

Is the guy who scrubs Jamie Dimon's toilet a banker,
or is the guy who fixes the MicroShit OS problems on his laptop a banker,
is whoever answers the phone at (212) 270-6000 a banker?

These are not the drones you're looking for. (to sarc or not to sarc? a very good question indeed)

Unfortunately, a lot of them wish they were.

Not that there aren't bankers who focus on mortgage banking, but that's a bit more subtle

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 17:07 | 4477225 waterhorse
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These workers have known what treachery the Morgue has been up to since at least 2007.  Plenty of time to GTFO of the Morgue.  I don't feel sorry for them.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:21 | 4474950 astoriajoe
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I actually went to look up if you trademarked that. You should.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:32 | 4474985 Caveman93
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I need to wake up, thought the headline was "JPM To Mass Banker Bridge Jump Off Fest... 17,000 Mortgage Bankers In 2013 And 2014, Because The "Housing Recovery". 

That would have been a good morning to read this instead. 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:30 | 4474777 Bosch
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Should be awesome for buybacks. 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:31 | 4474778 GrinandBearit
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Fire the indians, but give the chiefs raises and bonuses.

What a recovery we're in!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:37 | 4474810 the not so migh...
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to quote Chase commerical, 

"this is the stuff recoveries are made of"


Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:31 | 4474783 digitlman
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Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:32 | 4474786 Quintus
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Who needs mortgage bankers?  Using a mortgage to purchase a property is just so yesterday.  The Great Housing Recovery (tm) is all cash based don't you know? 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:39 | 4474819 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Freshly printed cash at that.  To paraphrase Col. Kilgore "I love the smell of toner in the morning.  Smells like, destruction of the global economy."

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 00:41 | 4479013 earl swagger
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Tough to beat that new gun smell, or a four stroke 250 on race gas with a Koloff topper. The ultimate: Top fuel dragster pop plop poppin to the line... Clears your head. Then Blaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Gone.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:32 | 4474787 101 years and c...
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must fire people so jamie can keep banking 20-30 million in salary and bonus.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:33 | 4474789 hugovanderbubble
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Another Subprime Crisis...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:48 | 4474848 Villageidiot777
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Is it car and student loans yet, or is it still at mortgage?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:33 | 4474791 nightshiftsucks
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Fuck yeah winning.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:34 | 4474994 pods
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Drinking Tiger Blood tonight!


Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:34 | 4474792 buzzsaw99
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bonus time

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:35 | 4474798 HyBrasilian
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Home Depot always has a springtime 'hiring' campaign... & I hear you can get an employee discount on nail guns...

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:35 | 4474802 the not so migh...
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ouch.. the propaganda confliction

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:36 | 4474808 Frostfan1
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I refinanced three times in 2011 and 2012 but as rates rose in 2013, I sat and am waiting for lower rates.  Without people like me, full times jobs became no jobs.  Whether they ever come back, I don't know.  For all I know, I never refinance again and end up having adjustible rates year after year.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:40 | 4474824 sudzee
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Getting fired is the easy way out of banking.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:52 | 4474825 Dr. Engali
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That Jamie Dimon sure is a genius, with great growth ideas like this no wonder he is richer than us. Banking is becoming a little more irrelevant every day.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:41 | 4474826 nakki
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No problem I hear Countrywide Financial is looking for mortgage bankers.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:59 | 4474883 waterwitch
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Not to mention the Chinese.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 17:09 | 4477237 waterhorse
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Didn't they change the name to PennyMac?  Same shitty product, same shitty people, but new name.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:42 | 4474829 Saratoga
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It's better than being let go from a 33 story building.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 17:11 | 4477244 waterhorse
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and better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:43 | 4474833 AdvancingTime
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In much of the country the housing recovery is a sham driven by super low interest rates rather than demand. I have owned an apartment complex for many years and we are currently experiencing the largest number of vacancies we have ever had. Many houses in the area are empty or under leased. In 2005 and 2006 prior to the housing collapse many people were looking at second homes, for investments or as a vacation getaway.

Today not only have many people shed the extra home many have doubled up with family or friends reducing the need for housing. We are pushing on a string and calling it demand when someone who can barely pay the rent is encouraged by the government to buy a house they can neither afford or maintain. We have a shortage of "qualified" buyers and renters. More on the long-term cost of our misdirected policies below,

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:59 | 4474880 ElvisDog
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One of the primary consequences of QE is that a good deal of that zero interest money is being used by the oligarchs to buy housing for cash. That is the primary reason behind the rising home prices in the past year. Real people, those trying to buy their first house and so on, don't get zero interest loans and are priced out of the market.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:44 | 4474834 firstdivision
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Bullish for housing.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:45 | 4474836 messystateofaffairs
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Laying off all those people because of a little bad weather. They should just hold out till the weather breaks.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:46 | 4474840 Puncher75
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Gotta love this real estate recovery boy!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 09:57 | 4474875 Its_the_economy...
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JPM To Lay Off 17,000 Mortgage Bankers In 2013 And 2014


record bonuses to takes a lot of [taxpayer] money to keep great talent.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:01 | 4474891 Johnny Cocknballs
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don't worry about them.

they can find productive work as people who drive trucks into pharmacies to grab Oxycontin, or people who sell pretzels at mall kiosks... or perhaps they can find employment in the bathroom stalls in the environs of JPM offices, dancing for nickels and sucking dick for beer money.


Or perhaps they'll sack up, strap up, and simply rob the working poor at gunpoint.  No paperwork. 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:02 | 4474895 yogibear
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Home Depot to hire 80,000 seasonal workers

Nice job transition.



Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:09 | 4474912 IridiumRebel
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"Thanks for loading the mulch into the truck, Chuck. What did you do before this?"

"I sold convoluted derivative instruments for JPM." 

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:23 | 4474956 kurt
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"In that case, I'd like to return the mulch and get these steaming wet bags of steer manure, Chuck."

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:17 | 4474922 notadouche
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Every day we see more examples of politicians, bankers, MSM pissing on us while proclaiming it's rain.  Guess what?  It's an "Inconvenient Truth" that this is actually piss and not rain.  And no Mr. Carter believing it's piss and not rain doesn't make you a racist.  And no its not just this group of folks, it was the Bush folks too.  One difference is the media wasn't complicit in proclaiming piss is actually rain.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:18 | 4474940 dexter_morgan
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but....but....all the talking heads (except Santelli I guess) say we are in a major recovery.

Where o where would we be without the gubmit.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:23 | 4474953 22winmag
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Maybe Obama can help these assholes unionize... or is that only for his illegal immigrant service worker buddies?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:22 | 4474954 kurt
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Yeah, and stuff!

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:29 | 4474969 Save_America1st
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Because snow

and also:  you can deny reality...but you can't deny the consequences of denying reality.


Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:39 | 4475013 dexter_morgan
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Seems global warming would be more bullish than cold weather......

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 10:38 | 4475006 IridiumRebel
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I love the wording of Choomberg. "Home prices in US 20 cities ROSE at slower pace in december."

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:07 | 4475134 ZeroRights
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Looking at this from a positive view- those 17,000 mortgage bankers can stay in the housing industry by picking up seasonal work at Home Depot. There they can get an attitude adjustment and find out the real value of a dollar.

I remember in in the early 2000's these mortgage bankers screwed everybody with their outrageous closing fees.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:11 | 4475160 Hobbleknee
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That's a lot potential whistle-blowers to keep quiet.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:19 | 4475210 CoolBeans
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Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!


Tue, 02/25/2014 - 11:51 | 4475409 fortune114
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Obviously when the Fed tapers $10 billion/month in mortgage purchases you're going to see a lot of layoffs in the "mortgage business" (taking a little off the top and dumping it on the Fed).  Can't wait to see what happens after the next $30 billion is tapered.

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 13:13 | 4475887 syntaxterror
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Housing is cash and carry now. So who needs a fucking banker?

Tue, 02/25/2014 - 18:09 | 4477520 whatthecurtains
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But will they still receive those awsome Jamie Dimon Christmas cards?   We got balls.

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