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George Soros On "Sustaining Ukraine's Breakthrough"
Authored by George Soros, originally posted at Project Syndicate,
Following a crescendo of terrifying violence, the Ukrainian uprising has had a surprisingly positive outcome. Contrary to all rational expectations, a group of citizens armed with not much more than sticks and shields made of cardboard boxes and metal garbage-can lids overwhelmed a police force firing live ammunition. There were many casualties, but the citizens prevailed. This was one of those historic moments that leave a lasting imprint on a society’s collective memory.
How could such a thing happen? Werner Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics offers a fitting metaphor. According to Heisenberg, subatomic phenomena can manifest themselves as particles or waves; similarly, human beings may alternate between behaving as individual particles or as components of a larger wave. In other words, the unpredictability of historical events like those in Ukraine has to do with an element of uncertainty in human identity.
People’s identity is made up of individual elements and elements of larger units to which they belong, and peoples’ impact on reality depends on which elements dominate their behavior. When civilians launched a suicidal attack on an armed force in Kyiv on February 20, their sense of representing “the nation” far outweighed their concern with their individual mortality. The result was to swing a deeply divided society from the verge of civil war to an unprecedented sense of unity.
Whether that unity endures will depend on how Europe responds. Ukrainians have demonstrated their allegiance to a European Union that is itself hopelessly divided, with the euro crisis pitting creditor and debtor countries against one another. That is why the EU was hopelessly outmaneuvered by Russia in the negotiations with Ukraine over an Association Agreement.
True to form, the EU under German leadership offered far too little and demanded far too much from Ukraine. Now, after the Ukrainian people’s commitment to closer ties with Europe fueled a successful popular insurrection, the EU, along with the International Monetary Fund, is putting together a multibillion-dollar rescue package to save the country from financial collapse. But that will not be sufficient to sustain the national unity that Ukraine will need in the coming years.
I established the Renaissance Foundation in Ukraine in 1990 – before the country achieved independence. The foundation did not participate in the recent uprising, but it did serve as a defender of those targeted by official repression. The foundation is now ready to support Ukrainians’ strongly felt desire to establish resilient democratic institutions (above all, an independent and professional judiciary). But Ukraine will need outside assistance that only the EU can provide: management expertise and access to markets.
In the remarkable transformation of Central Europe’s economies in the 1990’s, management expertise and market access resulted from massive investments by German and other EU-based companies, which integrated local producers into their global value chains. Ukraine, with its high-quality human capital and diversified economy, is a potentially attractive investment destination. But realizing this potential requires improving the business climate across the economy as a whole and within individual sectors – particularly by addressing the endemic corruption and weak rule of law that are deterring foreign and domestic investors alike.
In addition to encouraging foreign direct investment, the EU could provide support to train local companies’ managers and help them develop their business strategies, with service providers remunerated by equity stakes or profit-sharing. An effective way to roll out such support to a large number of companies would be to combine it with credit lines provided by commercial banks. To encourage participation, the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) could invest in companies alongside foreign and local investors, as it did in Central Europe.
Ukraine would thus open its domestic market to goods manufactured or assembled by European companies’ wholly- or partly-owned subsidiaries, while the EU would increase market access for Ukrainian companies and help them integrate into global markets.
I hope and trust that Europe under German leadership will rise to the occasion. I have been arguing for several years that Germany should accept the responsibilities and liabilities of its dominant position in Europe. Today, Ukraine needs a modern-day equivalent of the Marshall Plan, by which the United States helped to reconstruct Europe after World War II. Germany ought to play the same role today as the US did then.
I must, however, end with a word of caution. The Marshall Plan did not include the Soviet bloc, thereby reinforcing the Cold War division of Europe. A replay of the Cold War would cause immense damage to both Russia and Europe, and most of all to Ukraine, which is situated between them. Ukraine depends on Russian gas, and it needs access to European markets for its products; it must have good relations with both sides.
Here, too, Germany should take the lead. Chancellor Angela Merkel must reach out to President Vladimir Putin to ensure that Russia is a partner, not an opponent, in the Ukrainian renaissance.
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This great idea from The George requires taking risk --- er wait, can't do that. And who the F would??
Ukraine's "breakthrough" is nothing of the sort. It is crudely directed history masquerading as a spontaneous democratic uprising. And an uprising resulting - surprise, surprise - in the perpetuation of the same conceptual structure that was overthrown: government, a gang of thieves writ large. Ukraine needs a central government like a whole in the head. Through his "Open Society" operations Soros gets a kick out of playing the revolution game with people's lives. And that makes him an asshole of the first order. The world will be better off when he's gone. Godspeed.
Former Nazis in their 90's get arrested decades after the war's end but Soros gets a pass.
http://www.rense.com/general93/soros.htm
Yea, ok George.. When you use the word "democracy", it's reminiscent of when the serpent talked Eve into eating the apple. I like how you edited the words human cattle to be "human capital". Very tasteful, and without loosing the meaning of course. Kudos!
A democracy without a constitution to protect citizens rights and freedoms (the kind you blatantly endorse) is what they already have. Switching overlords and becoming the West's tax donkey or slave labour isn't an improvement on their current economic or civil situation. I don't think they need a soulless crony-capitalist dinosaur as their spokesman. Let them figure it out for themselves. Even if they mess it up, until they get it right, it could never be worse then if they took your advice. Besides you really don't have the time to philosophise, there is a saucy Brazilian out there looking for round two.
There is a special place in Hell for you and Kissinger.
This f^cking sociopath POS funds deep creep leftist bulls^it all over the damn planet and he deems "Europe" as being some great society that the Ukraine must be saved by?????
He pays the bills for a very high percentage of the retard left in this country as well. The guy is a serious freaking monster and one of obozo's puppet masters.
I'm no Koch brothers fan but sick and tired of the far ultra retard left 'progressives' eating their own sh^t when they gnash teeth over all the "mean spirited" funding activities of the Koch brothers.
A sociopath is a sociopath kiddo's.
Choosing one over the other doesn't make you 'enlightened'.
Relax, he is no differant than any dieing old man.
Meh, I've read better tyrannical commentaries.
"the International Monetary Fund, is putting together a multibillion-dollar rescue package to save the country from financial collapse".
How about 250tonnes of gold for no tariffs on Gasprom for 20 years.
It’s always interesting to see what a fad it is amongst the Streaming Lame Media Sheeple, which is to say the majority of the vocal posters on Zerohedge, to hate George Soros (Come on, let the "LINKS" flow). Anyone who isn’t under the influence of said Streaming Lame Media (SLM like Alex Jones, Glen Beck, etc.) has to be a little puzzled.
Apparently Soros is lambasted for how he behaved during the war years, years when Soros was between the ages of 9 and 14. One wonders just how courageously all of the Soros detractors behaved when they were 9-14 years old, their country was invaded/occupied by the world’s then-pre-eminent military power, and people of the same ethnicity as (the Zerohedge posters) were being rounded up and exterminated simply for being of that ethnicity.
Another dig against Soros is that he uses his wealth to try to affect changes that mirror his political and social philosophies. In other words, he does EXACTLY what posters and Contributors on Zerohedge try to do, except Soros has been infinitely more successful in life and thus can get his message a wider airing. Zerohedge posters, for the most part, can only afford a computer and internet connection, or maybe server space to operate a blog, to air their message, or perhaps make a small donation to a favored political candidate such as Ron Paul. Soros can afford to fund a wide range of candidates and he can buy air time, something Zerohedge posters cannot do, but there is nothing to suggest (given their prolific use of free space on Zerohedge to repeatedly post the exact same beliefs and philosophies over and over again) that if they had been fortunate enough to achieve the same level of success as Soros, they would refrain from using their status to broaden the audience of their message. Soros does it more widely because he can; that is all that differentiates his style from any regular Zerohedge poster.
While Soros has funded groups and institutions whose philosophy may differ from the groupthink of the Zerohedge posting community, lost amongst all that is the fact that he has (much more quietly) donated billions (with Carl Sagan’s “B”) of dollars to efforts aimed merely at alleviating human suffering and creating a more level playing field in a world where fate or anyone’s god is somewhat random and capricious in how luck and opportunity are handed out. Soros has made donations in excess of $8 billion over his career, and though he still has a fortune of around $25 billion, the sums donated are a considerable portion of his wealth. Can we suppose all Zerohedge posters have donated a greater percentage, and only use the excess to load up on yet more guns, ammo, metals and freeze dried turkey tetrazzini? What social good does any of that serve? Oh! It’s purely self-serving.
Tyler knows any article containing the word “Soros” is going to draw clicks and pay bills. Still, given Tyler’s past affiliation in the investment community, and particular his earlier employment as an analyst at a hedge fund, one would have to surmise Tyler has respect for what Soros has been able to achieve in the investment world. Maybe trading success doesn’t have the greatest social utility, but anyone buying metals in order to make or preserve wealth is a hypocrite if they criticize Soros for doing the same thing (trying to make and preserve wealth). Of course Soros does do it better. Oh, sorry, I forgot! All of the posters are just buying metals to bring the system down. It’s pure altruism. Sure.
Contrary to the local groupthink, Soros made his money not via “inside information” (I’m aware of the French connection) or even his connections, and certainly not because---as the more naïve crowd here loves to say---because he is “an agent of the Red Shield” (he is far more wealthy than any current descendant of that family), but because he has always had an ability to filter the thousand bits of data that exist in any market at any time, and filter the two or three points that have real import. Frankly, it is uncanny. Compare and contrast the relative performance of Soros and his former partner Jim Rogers since the two split up to get some idea of where the talent in Quantum rested. When most are baffled by the noise, Soros has a way of tuning out the noise and cutting to the chase. Again, it may not be a socially useful skill, but neither is hitting a golf ball or smacking 500’ home runs, or even writing a blog that regurgitates things everyone who wants to know already knows. Still, nobody has ever done it better. In any event, when has social utility and monetary remuneration ever gone hand in hand?
No doubt the crowd here will be “outraged” by this missive, and accuse me of the usual: being a “statist”, putting my tongue somewhere it shouldn’t be, or on Soros’ payroll. Think what you want. I frankly don’t give a shit, partly because I believe most of you are unfair in a manner I can only describe as bizarre when it comes to Soros, and mostly because I don’t much care what people for whom I have no respect think. Be part of an echo chamber just to feel a sense of belonging? No thanks.
People might want to recall that Soros was not bailed out. He didn’t need it. He may have taken advantage of the bailout in the sense that he read (correctly) what bailouts/ZIRP/QE/Cronyism would do to the markets, but that is absolutely no different than people loading up on metals because they thought all of that would be gold and silver positive. Again, Soros’ main difference was that he was both right and unwedded to any of his positions, which means he could follow both sides of the old adage buy low and SELL high. He isn’t one to whine about “manipulation” or to save his ego by saying, “well, I bought at $X, so I’m still okay”.
It seems to me that if scorn is due, there are plenty of deserving candidates out there besides Soros. Whether it is the CEO of a large, bailed out financial institution, a bought-off public official, an incompetent regulator, or a K Street lobbyist, the list of the truly guilty is rather long. Dimon? Blankfein? Corzine? Geithner? Feinstein? Bush and Obama? There’s a good start.
Now everybody try to remember how you behaved when you were nine years old, and then imagine what you would actually try to do if you suddenly found yourself with $25 billion dollars. Think of how sick and tired your “friends and family” are hearing your daily preaching about the truth as you see it, and then be honest when you think what you would do if you actually had the power to do it.
when I was 9 years old I made sure big kids didn't take my baby brothers sandwiches.... I didn't take little kids sandwiches
Thanks CHINDIT, fucking GOD-DAMN brilliant and needs to be said.
Like I always say here, too fucking bad that 90% of the time ZH minions are rooting for the "BAD GUYS".
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I also found it a brain-fuck here that ZH are told to love ROGERS, but 'hate' SOROS, given that they are siamese twins sharing the same hedge fund, ... its just fucking bizarre logic.
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Correct nobody here disses how KOCH puts his money where his passion, but SOROS does the same and it makes him a 'bad guy', never once have I seen a ZH limbaugh clone here say "KOCH" is bad because he puts HIS OWN MONEY into his philosophy of life.
Lastly, we have a real fucking problem with TYLER and his NICKELS from GOOGLE, its a FACT the the Z- word, J- and such get you down-ranked by google and TYLER wants a HIGH-RANKING to MAX his google ad nickels, ... we really need to find a way to HELP tyler so he doesn't have to be a google bitch.
bitcoin donations??
that donate page is so old it was made by Marla...
Includes:
Read the small print at the bottom of the page. ZH is ABC. LOL
The Koch brothers? LOL
Soros is to the Blue fascists what Koch is the Red fascists. You're naive if you think these aholes donate their money with no strings attached to the loot. Soros is no genius, he's connected via "donations" er bribes for tradeable information just like the Koch brothers. They're all a bunch of crooks.
There may be a majority (to which I am indifferent), there may be some groupthink (which I despise), but there are others, with other reasons to despise the Devil.
Would you like boiled-dog for your meal, or a child's liver? [ bot-test ]
Are you now working to also become a full-time troll.
What are these show-off contests between Soros and Jim Rogers worth you are trying to construct here?
Isn't that a little dimonesque "because I'm richer than you"?
I agree Soros might be better than uncle Warren,
but if I had to decide between Soros and Rogers to govern the world, or just the community in which you live, it would be an easy decision for me.
Warren Buffet is a first class criminal asshole, if HITLER had a child, it would be Warren Buffet.
Jim Rogers is the uncle we would all like to have.
But the problem with SOROS is the man is a fucking genius, and he never lowers himself to talk with the masses, and he certainly doesn't WHORE himself for their adolation like rogers or schiff, or faber.
Thus IHMO soros is hated cuz he's a left-wing liberal elitist,... so fucking what.
That Obama and John McCain support this so-called “revolution” in Ukraine tells us all we need to know: this is an NWO-funded operation– this is George Soros moving pawns on a chessboard. POS!
I don't see why the revolution can't be real, but in danger of being co-opted by the people you mention.
That is essentially what happened in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood took over the legitimate revolution because they were the best-organized. That the revolution was legitimate was proven by the people kicking the MB out.
What makes you think his donations aren't just as self-serving?
Here's a safe bet, platitude, but safe bet. Take anyone who has over a billion dollars and assume their an arrogant, insane asshole. The level of money changes them. Especially if it's someone who's done it as a trader. So he and couple of other people pushed hard on a bet that the Bank of England would break a peg channel. Great. Way to go. It's not something to be admired.
My big problem with the guy is his social commentary. The man is simply an enemy of freedom. He has pushed for national socialism and a new world order of elitist control. And though he has publicly come out against nazism and communism in the past, in effect, he has supported policies and political leaders that are just that. So at his most benign, he's a fool. At worst, he's an insane, arrogant, lying asshole.
As for the Ukraine, the "revolution" going on right now is a thug street mob taking over Kiev and dragging the country into the EU. And Soros says there's much to be learned and appreciated by this.
Chindik version 13 said:
re: "because he is “an agent of the Red Shield” (he is far more wealthy than any current descendant of that family)"
According to who, Forbes? LOL!
Who ghost-wrote this turd in the punchbowl article?
No wonder so many people want to see this hack wearing a toe tag.
chindit13
Wow, quite long winded. Did it ever occur to you that people hate Soros because he makes it his life's passion to fuck with other people? He can't live and let live. He's a Psychopath.
Yes, but observation of the wave function will cause it to collapse... if only you could be collapsed so easily...
Thanks for that perceptive bit of comedic relief, Lordflin!
I read a few days ago that the US Government has an army of internet trolls to get the necon and neoliberal message out. And to spread lies and discord among the people. I believe this is true and released in new Snowden document dumps.
The last few days I have had time to read a lot of ZH posts, much more than usual. This leads me to believe the government has some regulars here, and a special hit squad who appear and reappear under a new names.
Some posts are just too obvious not to be government trolls. But this is to be expected in the age of full government control, a nation where you every thought and deed are recorded by your loving govenment in the drive to keep you safe, safe from rational thought, and safe from uncontolled news.
The USA has so far passed East Germany in it's lust for power and control, they have taken the Bush police state, and turned it into the Obama super police state.
I agree, Jack Burton. One thing I notice is how rapid red down arrows appear under some posts. (Faster that it would take someone to read the actual article, it seems to me.) That is as if somebody is watching the "New Comments" side bar, ready to pounce on anyone on some list of names with an immediate down vote? Thus, there often seems to be a pattern that there will be some initial down voting, then a stream of more up voting later ???
I wonder what a professional Internet troll gets paid? I wonder how anyone gets recruited to that kind of task? (Sometimes some people have accused me of working for the government because I tend to have negative attitudes.) Too bad that I am too unreliable to be employed "to spread lies and discord among the people." It sounds like a relatively easy job.
I'm a computer scientist and an expert in machine-learning, and I can tell you that most of the Bot's on ZH are NOT human.
If your new to this stuff go to 'cleverbot.com' and have a chat with a bot, ... if you want to have fun, feed clever-bot some fonestar shit, and then come back and feed it to fonestar, and watch fonestar have conniptions when a bot is fed bot-shit.
Paid? About $1/day all this shit is done in INDIA, they have talking point scripts but rarely is a human required.
Shit they were faking people with ELIZA ( computer psychiatrist ) back in the 1970's, and now its 40 years later. Remember with Software bot's you can have 1,000's attacking each individual, and the price is 'virtually free'.
What's wrong with fonestar? I've never heard him say a word against bovines, and his posts stand as pillars of logic compared to your own demented ramblings. I'm not really sure why you're so down on Israel, personally, I think that the fact that they've survived as long as they have is amazing, considering that they're surrounded by suicidally homicidal maniacs who seem to hate themselves and everyone else as well. And the idea that most posters here are (UNDEFINED REFERENCE='bots') is, quite frankly, paranoid in the extreme.
As far as Little Georgie Soros goes, he's a twisted, evil troll who loves playing dress-up in a Nazi uniform. But then again, he's not the only one. There's Bill Gates and many others. They seem to think they know what's best for us. What's best for us, in their eyes, seems to be killing off three-quarters of us, while returning to Flintstone-Age Technology. I don't know what's best for the rest of the world, but America should _definitely_ pursue a cheap energy policy. I think we should build lots of coal-fired baseload generation plants, and re-vamp our electrical grid. Fuck all this "smart grid" and "green" bullshit. Every year, the winters are getting colder, and I don't wanna freeze like a dog.
You have to learn to lighten up, dude. Stop taking life so seriously. Every cloud has a silver lining. Mind the pennies, and the pounds will take care of themselves. A Stich In Time Saves Nine. (ERROR=END OF LIST "Platitudes") Lilo And Stitch. Stitch Has A Glitch.
You'll be Absolutely Free, only if you want to be.
Yes. An excellent piece. Long suspected as much.
The Conspiracy Theory Is True: Agents Infiltrate Websites Intending To "Manipulate, Deceive, And Destroy Reputations"
The dis-info bots are out in force at these days. And not only here.
So the mainstream media represents concentrated corporate power. To say the least, untrustworthy.
And bots/disinfo agents for the state, representing corporate power of the military industrial complex, are doing their best to dilute/pervert/distort any message they don't like from the alternate media as well.
Who can you trust? In this day and age one must learn to think for oneself.
It is still no contest between the MSM and the alternate media of the internet. If you look hard enough there are still to be found nuggets of gold on the alt media, whereas MSM sold out long ago.
What a BS :). "New" Ukrainian government, old opposition, had promised to people 150 bln from EU once Yanukovich is ousted :)
West Ukraine's economy has failed. I wait to see how the banking lords of the EU come in and save the people from poverty, unemployment and government corruption. This should be a hell of a show, because west Ukraine, the EU's stronghold, is a fucking collapsed shit hole. The East and South have all the industry, the industry the EU wants to shut down, so Germany can export more. That is why East and South Ukraine are not going to become part of EU. They know that every industry will be ordered closed by the EU, so, once again, Germany can export more. The EU trolls should be out in force to explain their plan to save Ukraine. One day people will wake up to the EU hoax, seems the alram clocks are ringing in a lot of countries already. Brussels is a failed bunch of corporate hacks and liars, living off of huge salaries and luxury benefits while youth across the EU are without jobs. It's a good life if you can get in the club, Brussels is a cess pit of corporate whores. Sort of like the US congress!
The corporate whores in Congress only differ from the corporate whores in the EU and elsewhere in one way... they all have evidence (some manufactured, most merely supressed) dangling over their deads of them touching men or touching children.
West Ukraine is Russia's economic Trojan Horse style gift for the E.U.
Best fucking QUOTE on ZH today.
I hope somebody here turns this into a POST, are there any TYLERS here that can write a post.
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Fuck YES, have you all noticed how quick that PUTIN was to quit giving URKAINE the $5Billion/year, ...
PUTIN was like EU wants UKRAINE? You want a nation of welfare HO's that make the USA FSA look like workers??
So now EU get's West-Ukraine and the USA sends its remaining treasure ( ability to create FIAT out of asshole ),... PUTIN is fucking playing this one like a fiddle.
+100 for that Jorgen. You could not have said it better!
"Oil Shipments to the refineries in Odessa are officially stopped due to unpaid bills for crude oil arrivals." Hmmm, hope Ukrainians have plenty of donkeys. Also, "The Ukraine government is 2 billion dollars behind in arrears to natural gas suppliers." Hmmm, EU better fucking start writing checks fast, and the ECB better print Euros fast too! Or they better have lots of fire wood put aside. Economic collapse is an ugly thing, West Ukraine will know all about, after the purges are over, and the revolutionaires have to meet the payroll and pay the bills.
Satoshi, I gave you a couple of down votes but, reading further, you have convinced me you might be right about Soros. When my father was 9-14 he threw rocks at the German soldiers. I have some Jewish blood.
If and I do Mean ( IF ) there is an Anti Christ... then Surely He is a Banker
Confusing NAZI's and NAZI enablers.
BUSH, FORD, ... may not have been "NAZIS", but they brought HITLER to power.
WRT to operation paperclip, and card carrying Nazi's, they were just men who did what they did, in those times if you were not on Hitler's payroll you didn't eat.
Germans didn't have a choice.
But BUSH, and ZIONISTS had a choice, but they CHOSE to create HITLER and destroy EUROPE.
Today AIPAC (AZC,LIKUD,ZION) is destroying Ukraine, thus once again the same TEAM is destroying europe.
That Obama and John McCain support this so-called “revolution” in Ukraine tells us all we need to know: this is an NWO-funded operation– this is George Soros moving pawns on a chessboard. POS!
I would simply like to point out that Soros said the IMF and EU were putting together a bailout package.
Suckers.
"A replay of the Cold War would cause immense damage to both Russia and Europe, and most of all to Ukraine, which is situated between them."
Gee.....we should really be made to pay for such insightful genius!
What next: a replay of the Second World War, would be negative vis a vis the longevity of Japanese Kamikaze pilots.
i never had any idea how many idiots and morons make comments on this site until this article..george soros has done more good in his life than all the people who have read this article put together.. george soros has give away more than 2 million dollars a day every day for he last 10 years and gave billions away prior to the last 10 years. what a bunch of FOOLS who have now shown the world just how fucking stupid you are
Another delusional leftist idiot on the payroll of the evil Soros who has bankrupted countries
http://www.infowars.com/soros-activists-take-over-ukrainian-government-b...
Dumb fuck! Your parents are related, aren't they?!?
LOL. So have the Koch brothers but I'll bet you have a different take on their "philanthropy". All of George's money like the Koch brothers, comes with stipulations that further their personal fortune. One's a Blue fascist clown the other a Red fascist clown.
Some of TPTB know this is a con. I would put Soros and Obama in that camp.
For the rest, especially the neocons and Cold-war history buffs, this is being sold as an "historic opportunity to make inroads into the Russian sphere of influence."
That thought is being dangled in front of them like a carrot. I suspect they will find it too tempting to resist, and will join in the bailout effort. It will be tempting indeed at the "bargain" cost of only $30 Billion.
This will stabilize Ukraine in the short-term, but all the while Putin will be calling the shots from behind the curtains. If the elections in May *somehow* don't go his way, he will make that abundantly clear. More likely, the situation will continue to be indecisive; Putin will maintain his shadow-control and the west will have "green shoots" of influence. (HA!)
A bailout may be unpopular among the EU, but when has that ever stopped Brussels before? Still, I expect some cost-sharing...by the end, I think the US will pick up 1/2 to 2/3 of the tab.
The only losers will be Ukrainians (and the US), if everything goes according to plan, and "the plan" is more wealth redistribution from the west (again, especially the US) to Russia. Obama loves that shit.
Lastly, Europe wants a stable Ukraine because that's how they buy energy. Russia wants a stable Ukraine because that's how they sell energy. The Ukrainians give only a tiny shit what Europe wants, and no shit at all what Russia wants outside of what would make them invade.
Russia won't invade because their pipelines are hostage. In an invasion, the Ukrainians can't attack the Russian forces so I wouldn't be surprised to see them wreck the Russian infrastructure. If they lack the expertise for insurgency, it should be easy enough to import extremists. There are lots of groups that would hit the Russians just for the lulz.
Russia also won't invade at least until the bailout is done, because NO ONE is going to bail out a country that's currently occupied. That would be a too-obvious payment directly to the occupier.
SSHHHHISSS!!! QUITE, THE MASTER SPEAKS!!
Concise and interesting discussion between Political economist Aleksandr Buzgalin and international law professor John Quigley:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&I...
"Popular Uprising, Foreign Manipulation and Rising Fascism in Ukraine"
Mr. Soros,
may i at the same time apologize for my comrades, retain deference to them, and simultaneously show some respect?
janus will do his ever-luvin best.
gentlemen, this is a man who's demonstrated (no matter the associations you may presume he's sworn to), earned, and in every estimable manner attained, his right to speak, and, may i add, in an amplified fashion. this is, unless i am mistaken, an econ/finance/trading (and all that shall-forth relate) web-locale.
i cannot adequately express my displeasure with some of the personnel decisions soros's made; i cannot excuse his insistence that the gangsters now in-charge are in any way adequate to their positions, nor are their best attributes even hinting at the least-most qualities required to better-make and churn this world of ours to work; but i will say this, he, soros, wants something better. misguided though his functionaries may indeed be.
this man wants a better world. i say he needs a face-to-face with janus. for God's sake's, he did fine work with a proud son of demopolis, al.
i know in what manner of dubious aura this will place poor ole janus...but, believe what you will, i happen to think g. soros is a man of good will.
i recognize what this will cost me here on the Hedge...and i'm willing to accept it.
what is more, i neglected something hilarious i was anxious to post on WB's place, instead...instead i feel obliged to stand on the tattered wall, foresakeing funny-stuff and all, clininging to a seeming futility, sacrificing some sure'nuff knee-slappin good-stuff....would'a been worth rememberin...only to get booed. and maybe remind you that, once you cross the billion mark, and there ain't nuthin left to prove, you, as a human, wanna do some kinda good.
i only advocate that we pitch our position to the man.
the other side is diverting alot of good-will dollars to bad causes.
{on a personal note, mr. soros, janus is not only too wise to fall for any kievian honey traps; he is far too honorable. and, what is most especially more, i will not allow my opinions on matters of the most inestimable importance to be persuaded by pussy...i am bred of the better sort. i see trouble way-off in the offing. but, none the less, i appreciate it. i will get back to them all when the dust settles. till then, shalom...or something that means good, and better still, as it works to the betterment and pleasured will of men -- all for of them that will it}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dWOsP_wly0
peace on earth,
janus
Soros.
Isn't this the gent who thinks that 98% of Americans should be disarmed and that the country should be run like a Palestinian refugee camp?
No matter how the Ukraine situtation shakes out, you just KNOW Georgie boy is in position to profit big time from the misery of others.
But for how long?
young bitch sucked brain out through his dick
Soros is pretty typical of his Satanic tribe, only much more sucessful than most. No wonder they are the most hated people in the history of the planet!
He looks so old.