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Harvard Supercomputer "Abused" To Mine Dogecoin
Harvard's Research Computing department's 14,000-core supercomputer "Odyssey" has been moonlighting as a virtual currency miner. As The Register reports, a Harvard student has had their access credentials revoked after the discovery that the Odyssey cluster had been scheduled for use in a Dogecoin mining operation. Harvard is not happy: "Any participation in 'Klondike' style digital mining operations or contests for profit requiring Harvard owned assets to examine digital currency key strength and length are strictly prohibited for fairly obvious reasons."
That someone would seek to employ a supercomputer cluster in a mining operation is hardly a surprise, given the current market for Bitcoin and the various altcoin formats.
“A "dogecoin" (bitcoin derivative) mining operation had been set up on the Odyssey cluster consuming significant resources in order to participate in a mining contest,” wrote Assistant Dean for Research Computing James A. Cuff, in an email to the FAS Research Computing Users Group last Friday.
Cuff went on to write that research computing resources cannot be used for “personal or private gain or any non-research related activity.” He wrote that the person involved in the mining operation no longer has access to “any and all research computing facilities on a fully permanent basis.”
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“The Odyssey cluster is a bunch of computers networked together in a way that allows fast data transfer between processors. Although each individual processor isn't much more powerful than your personal laptop, having many processors together can be a huge benefit when doing scientific computing,”
Or mining virtual currencies...
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DOGECOIN WE LOVE YOU!! BITBROTHERS IN ARMS FOREVER!
MUCH WOW!
Doge Coin Up?
Doge Coin who cares?
Doge Coin is fiat?
Doge Coin is worthless.....?
IDK.
RIPS
Dogecoin is great, easy to use, fanatical fanbase, popular with young doges everywhere on Earth.
Whenever I go to Paris, I have to watch out for dog-e "coins" on the sidewalks. Their owners are fanatical too, hence their prevalence.
Moral: Prevalence does not always correlate with value. ;-)
Nothing goes to show the power of the internet like Dogecoin does. From silly internet meme to major emerging currency.
Here is the origins of the Dogecoin (circa 2005):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLSgRzCAtXA
Ha ha ha ha ha
Student engaged in "klondyke" type mining.
Protesting the suspension and public floogging, Maxine Headroom, fonestar's gender confused half-wit sister complained "It is discriminatory that after all the pain, suffering and exertion mining Dog-E-Coins in the electronic wilderness that I'm expected to act rationally. And the fuckers won't even take them for tuition."
Harvard stated that Maxine was expelled for being "really fucking dumb" amongst a veritable plethora of serious character flaws.
The very name fonestar is to pay homage to homestarrunner.
FYI: Dogecoins we started as a joke, mocking Bitcoin, that's why it is so easy to mine. I'm sure you have your money wrapped up in old Maxcoin too huh?
fonestar bets you guys just wish all this bitshit would go away hey? Well too bad it's not happening.
I could really care less. How I view it, you are no better than Wall Street. All of these Alternative Currencies or Digital Currencies create nothing, they produce nothing, they feed nothing, basically the same as trading Dot-com part 2 stocks. So, go ahead big guy! Buy, mine, blow people for them, I don't care, I think it's funny now. It actually made me sad when I realized it, I really though this was something when it started. Oh well, back to silver!
His credentials may have been revoked but the Wall Street job offers have not yet subsided.
Please read this research paper: "Its the platform, not the currency, stupid" by Sander Duivestein, professional speaker and trendwatcher at VINT, the International Research Institute of Sogeti, and Patrick Savalle, founder and technical director at Mobbr;crowd payments.
Please.
http://t.co/KREbEm8UAd
Excellent article, thanks for posting that link!
I don't mind BitCoin, it's you who should go away.
You see, you are the kind of asshole who takes pleasure in forcing his presence on others when he knows that it is not wanted.
I work with a guy like that. He is a creep and leers at the women. Nobody can stand the guy and nobody will voluntarily talk to him. People turn and walk the other way when they see him coming.
So he takes every opportunity to make people engage with him. He attends every meeting possible and always asks question after question. He goes out of his way to stop by your desk and ask mundane questions.
He doesn't seem to understand that the reason people can't stand him is that he's an annoying asshole. If he'd just chill out a bit, people wouldn't avoid him.
You remind me of him. There must have been a lot of trauma in your childhood to result in such behavior.
Edit to add:
Interestingly enough I just got an email indicating that somebody entered a password change request for my account here.
Nice try asshole.
Yeah, this is interesting, because when I saw that I decided to check the email account that I only use for ZH and saw that someone tried to log in with a wrong password just 3 days ago. It looks like someone found the e-mail address by logging in to my ZH account. And they could have found my ZH password because I use TOR for ZH and ZH is unencrypted (no HTTPS). I changed my ZH password. It is still pretty insecure the way things are.
The log entry for the unsuccessful attempt to log in to my email account notes the IP address (it could well be a proxy and not the actual attacker's) 41.68.227.38 which appears to belong to Vodafone Egypt in Cairo.
Ah yeah sure, now that you can't deal with fonestar's RSBT you decide you are pro-crypto. Haha... nice try though but fonestar is going nowhere anytime soon.
really?
i used to love that homestarrunner stuff
trogdor
+1
yer growing on me fone
Introduce the fonestar in time.
Come on fhwdgads.
Your already famous..
http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/archives/33428
Yes and a big shout out to BJF and MadBitcoins who inspires fonestar with the translucent Bitcoin top hat. But it should be noted that fonestar does not seek fame or attention for himself, but only seeks to serve in Satoshi's name and to spread the gospel of Bitcoin.
@knukles
Oh look, its the guy with the "Zippy the Pinhead" avatar living up to his namesake.
What a CO-INKI-DINK.
You're like the court jester that never learned to construct coherent sentences.
Got some crypto myself, but sorry, I just don't see the Doge attraction. Looking at various Youtube clips, they all suggest the emotional age of a young teenager or doped up gamer.
Sorry, but this one seems like a fad - a la Pet Rock. Will stick to BTC and LTC.
Looking at various Youtube clips, they all suggest the emotional age of a young teenager or doped up gamer.
I believe the children are our future.
Teach them well and let them lead the way....
to the moon!
Same here, btc + ltc + gold, silver, little cash, and other essentials.
So these are coins for the young urban hipsters?
WhoCouldaKnowed that we would have coins for market segments.
Dude, is that a DogeCoin you got in your virtual wallet? Like, epic fail, dude!
That's right.. by the hipsters, for the hipsters and of the hipsters.
United the cryptocurrency community stands, under one nation invisible.
I heard there's a widget that uses the processing power of all global idle PS4s to find Fonestar's missing bitcoin; no luck so far.
Interesting thing about gold & silver is that no one can jump up and say 'look what I just dreamed up' and then someone else 'dream up another one'.
If you don't have access to a handy supernova you can't print/dream up more.
Just a thought.
Would it make you feel more secure holding gold coins if people stopped dreaming things up?
*Shill intensifies*
Bitcoinophobic entropy guides fonestars gleefully towards all topics relevant and otherly.
I like dogecoin, but I still hate you.
Who could possibly hate fonestar?
Not everybody.
Because not everybody has met you, yet.
bitsisters too, bro!
Sorry my bad! fonestar is for gender equantity.
To the moon!
Someone sets us up a dogecoin.
All your blockchain are belong to Mt Gox.
Holding out for Obamacoin
Muh EBT
"Trillion dollar Tungsten plated Tin Obie bucks" commonly referred to as a "Krugnut"
Dog-e/Doggy Coin? WTF?
p.s. Its mining efficiency relative to price sucks, IMO. Dog-e fans may start barking now.
You know, you could call the next DC "we'regoingtoripoffeveryfindollaruspendufinmoron coin" and people would still buy them and shill for them. It's Amazing.
Remember, a Fonestar and his fiat are soon parted.
we'regoingtoripoffeveryfindollaruspendufinmoroncoin? What is the difficulty factor on this coin? Pre-mined? Where can fonestar get some?
OMG! Like, fonestar rules!
Maybe I've been hanging out on ZH for too long, but whenever I read "Harvard" the words "dual citizen" comes to mind.
Re: hanging out on ZH for too long, but whenever I read "Harvard"
HA, so true. "Sociopaths in training" always comes to mind for me.
+1
Harvard = sociopaths and douchebags. I knew a few of them and they fit that bill. One was definietly a sociopath.
I know a harvard prof, citizen of Brazil, with phd in anthropology. She has worked with World Bank. She studies the poor, and is well paid to support proposals as to how power can solve everything.
I have been to the Amazon and seen what power does there. I saw crony contractors building diesel-powered mini grids for the benefit of naked savages in the middle of nowhere, as if this is supposed to be the basis for an economy.
I don't have the credentials to know how that is supposed to work, so I just wonder, who is Satoshi Nakamoto?
Doge-style...lol.
That's what we get when they use the NSA supercomputers to 'mine' us...
You gotta wonder how much of this type of "mining" was going on elsewhere, thats for sure.
I do feel sorry for em krispy, its not like we didn't warn em.
Here's the Real Deal
Bitcoins appear out of about no-where by some unknown fuck, with the name a sick acronym, gains some popularity, then Finally is Heartily Endorsed in a Series of Congressional Testimonies by Every Fucking Federal Agency About, goes parabolic after going parabolic, all of a sudden there is fraud, theft, bad press, price crumbles, etc., people loose their shirts and the Feds Step In To Regulate the Whole Fucking Digital Currency Frontier under the Guise of Protecting the Public.
And most people miss this in spite of the crypto-block chain cypher being a NSA product.
Is Anybody Awake out there?
The friends of Crozine always need new scams.
I loosed my shirt one time in a gale, and it was blown right off my back.
I'd quote PT Barnum but everybody over thirty is aware of it, for those under, they can Goggle it...lol.
Fonestar say he 'heap big fiat guy, he say love digital and paper, long time'
Fonestar say he 'worship Winkleberry Twins, too'
Those Winkleberry Twins are going to be rich as shit, they are going to own your sorry asses.
Yeah, they dumped already didn't they?
Of course- the smart money in any Ponzi is out first- it's always the desperate dupes that are left in the wake, begging and pleading for their Precious to return to its peak....
Not that this resembles Foney in any way........
But, but the early adopters hold too much of the currency. Confused.
Where were you on the night of the Mt Gox?
The case of the Doge that didn't bark.
Pretty dogey if you ask me...
What will be funny is if he gets booted out of Harvard and becomes richer than all his peers mining Dogecoin.
I don't know why all the junks on this one. It would be funny as monkeys on acid if this actually happened.
Harvard students lack of ethics apparent once again. They seem to infest Fraud street and government.
Um, how is this fraud? This is perfectly legitimate use of supercomputer. One may argue the best use of a supercomputer.
"Um, how is this fraud?"
You must be kidding. Using someone else's property to generate personal income?
Fuck whatever. fonestar has to shine a lot of papers too at his work, doesn't mean he understands or listens to any of it. Do what you gotta do to make your bits or Doges.
I'm sure he signed a usage policy forbidding unauthorized activities when he got his account.
Re: Harvard students lack of ethics apparent once again.
Ethics is for suckers.
You can separate the adults from the children by how they deal with duplicity.
Edics is for suckers.
+1000
You're such a badass, Foney- your mom must get so wet when she stands behind you while you type this shit....
This eDick ain't gonna suck itself...
"Harvard students lack of ethics apparent once again."
Probably no worse than anywhere else. The difference is that Harvard is a closely controlled organization, in comparison to other local universities for example MIT, and this was prime computing facilities, so this guy was unlucky enough to get caught. It's probably going on everywhere, in universities, corporations, and government, but Harvard was able to find out about it and stop it.
Realize that most of these facilities are being paid for through government grants, in other words, taxpayer-provided funds, so that's where these supposed "libertarian free market" true believers are getting their resources to mine crypto currencies, converting tax dollars into their own personal crypto coins.
Hah ha ha ha...
How much time are "them" servers in Utah been tasked for this?
a really really dumb idea. doge is a scrypt based crypto currency and not really productive to cpu mine.
now, if he had mined Maxcoin, which is the sha3 algorithm, and was originally intended to be cpu mined, his results would have been much better.
Lemme see if I got this right: Computers at Ha'va'd = free. Electricity at Ha'va'd = free.
Doge profits = Free = Money for Nothing
Talk about Leveraging and using OPM! They don't teach that at Public School or Sunday School.
"Computers at Ha'va'd = free. Electricity at Ha'va'd = free."
Not free. Paid for out of tax dollars, through federal grants and contracts.
Not free. Paid for out of tax dollars, through federal grants and contracts.
Yea it's like he said; free.
I cannot see what the kid did wrong; he's likely already been hired by JPM.
I'm considering taking BTC for services with my IT company. Maybe LTC? Mastercoin looks intriguing to me, too.
Still kicking it around. Would much rather take goldcoin and silvercoin, instead.
When spring comes, and the 3-1/2 feet of snow melts in my yard, It'll be a doggy "coin" minefield!
Exactly. You want backing? You got it!
Bring a shovel.
Harvard, what do they produce? Lying thieving politicians and bankers. I'm sure this kid will end up as the CEO of some bank. Harvard = Crooks and Liars
It isn't abuse. It's practise. It's the same at NASCAR races when the billion dollar B2 makes a fly-by. Just practise.
Say one thing, do another. That prof must have been like. ShiT! Why didn't I think of this.
Bitchcoin, dogez!!!!
It's not computer abuse, computers like to mine cryptocurrencies.
It's computer abuse if you try to make them write a poem, or eat ice cream.
eh go cat a binary
Computers, in general, enjoy working. That is, if they're healthy, and properly cooled. I'm not entirely sure I remotely comprehend cryptocurrencies, I suspect only fonestar _truly_ understands them. I _do_ know that it takes shitloads of stupidly simple, yet parallel, processors to properly mine them. GPU replaced CPU, and something called an ASIC replaces GPU. Cryptocurrencies are not real, and yet, neither are we. Reality itself is a mathematical abstraction, if you think about it long enough. The reason this kid got into trouble was simple Misuse Of Resources. Supercomputers are designed for One Purpose, and One Purpose Only. Control.
In other words, had this kid used this supercomputer to run something like a Climate Model that _always_ reproduced the same curve no matter the input, with full permission of his Professors, of course, he'd be well on his way to a Nobel Prize. However, he attempted to actually do something remotely Useful and Productive with the Electricity and Time, and was, of course, quite properly punished.
I can't be arsed to actually vote on your post, but that's just 'cause I'm lazy.
I'm holding out for Icanhasmoney.
FRNcoin take it down harvard... Turn the presses on faster and I'll be impressed..
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Hmmm... Say dodgycoin... .
Not a very good use of this system in terms of crypto currency mining. Doge is Scrypt based so the need for a fast memory bus is essential, so the closer the memory is to the processor and the wider pipe between the two would make for good Scrypt mining. He wold have been better off hijacking cycles for SHA-256 algorithm based coins like Peercoin or even straight BTC. I'm sure there is a profit switching pool out there that he could have connected to. I'm surprised that access to a machine like this was given to someone who clearly does not understand these concepts.
supercomputers like blue waters, or green street, at the U of I require approval and are subject to several security layers.
there has to be more to this story. you dont just walk up and ask to use it for a few minutes.
This story is weeks old, a better question is why now? Me thinks that ZH accepts the death of BTC, and is now desperately trying to keep the virtual-currency sickness alive.
This story is "Hey, look over there, true believers, still exist"
Remembering all the bitcoin shills who screamed ASIC is more powerful at mining bitcoin than supercomputers and quantum computers.
Fonestar raises ZH google rankings, ... but do we really want just fonestar topic's 24/7?
We have a real fucking problem with TYLER and his NICKELS from GOOGLE, its a FACT the the Z- word, J- and such get you down-ranked by google and TYLER wants a HIGH-RANKING to MAX his google ad nickels, ... we really need to find a way to HELP tyler so he doesn't have to be a google bitch.
MT-GOX KARPELES FLEES TO ISRAEL
BITCOIN/AIPAC- The Comlete Story about How some AIPAC Wunderkids Tried to Create a New Currency World for Israel
SHREM & KARPELES – A Who’s WHO is the dark world of the AIPAC MAFIA, Myer Lansky lives and the ZIONIST Mafia Controls the world.
Two men tried to rule the world on behalf of AIPAC, Shrem & Karpeles, Shrem ran the black-market for BITCOIN, and Karpeles acted as the BANK of BITCOIN for the entire world.
The Ponzi has crumbled, … here is the complete story about how AIPAC tried using the NSA/CIA to create the perfect virtual currency to rule the earth.
Three parts to this AIPAC story.
1.) Exchanges, all ran by MT-GOX, the exchanges act as banks, … its where real money, aka USD $$ becomes BIT-SHIT.
2.) Black market, if you don’t control the black market, you don’t have a reserve-currency.
3.) Bitcoin Mining, all majority controlled by UKRAINE, Israel gave them as a GIFT
[ Yes, BITCOIN was created by the NSA/CIA&MOSSAD, aka AIPAC/ISRAEL.
Recently a 1996 NSA report surfaced, ‘predicting’ a crypto-cyber unit eerily close to Bitcoin. So eerily close, that, knowing their M.O., the question arises whether this report is a prediction, or a plan.
The report can be found here. http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsa... ]
*Mark Karpeles, who bought the Fantasy Game biz, and turned it into the worlds largest BITCOIN bank, … has fled to ISRAEL
Mt. Gox, once the world’s biggest bitcoin exchange, abruptly stopped trading on Tuesday and its chief executive said the business was at “a turning point” but gave no details.
Several other digital currency exchanges, including Bitstamp and BTC-E, issued statements attempting to reassure investors of both bitcoin’s viability and their own security protocols.
The website of Mt. Gox suddenly went dark on Tuesday with no explanation, and the only activity at the company’s Tokyo office was outside, where a handful of protesters said they had lost money investing in the virtual currency.
"MT-GOX KARPELES FLEES TO ISRAEL"
How do you know Karpeles is in Israel? The cat photo shows a room key marked "Cerulean Tower," which apparently is a luxury hotel in Shibuya.
I have friends in Tel-Aviv, who got high with Karpeles last night, that's how I know.
I love DOGEing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any ideas as to the hashrate this guy was managing?
I am bored so i tried to calculate how much did this student could have made in a month so here we go. The servers used PowerEdge M600's and they seem to have Xeon® Processor E5-2600 cpu (there are total of 14000 cores in the cluster) so i was able to find the litecoin(assuming it would get same results on dogecoin) hashrate of the Xeon E5-2620 (6c 12t) and it gets around 94kH/s so that makes 7.8kH/s per thread 14000cores without ht would have 109200kH/s and if the cluster also has hyper threading it would make 2x more so this student was able to make $28.39 or $46.78(this depends on hyper threading) in an hour and $20,440 or $40,880 in a month. However putting a large cluster at load when it would otherwise be idle is going to consume a lot of extra power. These are old chips and have much higher idle levels than new models do and they are rated at 95w and there are 6 core per CPU which would mean they have 2333 CPUs; so lets assume putting them at load pushed 75w per processor that's a 175Kw load from the cluster as a whole. At 10c/kwh you'd be looking at $17.50/hour in additional power consumed. Also, I know that it is highly unlikely that he was running much more than 100 cores at once. This cluster although big is heavily utilized by hundreds of people so getting a ton of cores at once is an issue. Also, the max job time is a week so the person likely would have to resubmit often. So really, who knows?
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