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NATO Responds To Russian Military Drill, Backs "Inviolability" Of Ukraine Frontiers

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Shortly after today's surprising announcement by Russia that it would conduct broad military drills in Central and Western Russia, which would include 150,000 troops, we posted a rhetorical question: How will NATO respond?

Moments ago NATO responded:

  • NATO: INDEPENDENT, STABLE UKRAINE KEY TO EURO-ATLANTIC SECURITY
  • NATO BACKS UKRAINIAN TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY, ALLIANCE SAYS
  • NATO ALLIES CONTINUE TO BACK UKRAINE SOVEREIGNTY, ALLIANCE SAYS
  • NATO BACKS `INVIOLABILITY OF FRONTIERS' ON UKRAINE: ALLIANCE
  • NATO COMMENDS ARMY FOR STAYING OUT OF UKRAINE POLITICAL CRISIS
  • NATO SAYS IMPERATIVE THAT UKRAINE ARMY DOESN'T INTERVENE

Full NATO statement:

We continue to follow developments in Ukraine very closely. We deplore the tragic loss of life. We welcome the fact that violence has been stopped through negotiations that paved the way for a peaceful outcome. We emphasise the importance of an inclusive political process based on democratic values, respect for human rights, minorities and the rule of law, which fulfils the democratic aspirations of the entire Ukrainian people.

 

NATO and Ukraine have a distinctive partnership, embodied in the NATO-Ukraine Commission. Through that partnership framework, NATO stands ready to continue to engage with Ukraine and assist with the implementation of reforms. Defence reform and military cooperation remain key priorities. We commend the Ukrainian armed forces for not intervening in the political crisis. In a democracy, it is imperative that the armed forces do not intervene in the political process. We underscore the need to strengthen democratic control over the defence and security sector, with effective parliamentary oversight and the robust involvement of civil society. In the context of recent tragic events, transparent democratic and accountable institutions are essential to the future of Ukraine.

 

A sovereign, independent and stable Ukraine, firmly committed to democracy and the rule of law, is key to Euro-Atlantic security. Consistent with the Charter on a Distinctive Partnership between NATO and Ukraine, NATO Allies will continue to support Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, territorial integrity, democratic development, and the principle of inviolability of frontiers, as key factors of stability and security in Central and Eastern Europe and on the continent as a whole.

And as the military escalations - now on both sides - escalate some more, the algos are BTFATH. Let's sit back and watch which back off first.

 

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Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:03 | 4480203 papaswamp
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Moar war

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:05 | 4480211 PR Guy
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NATO responds the way it always responds - with cluster words.

 

Get out yer guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KciJZ3zHo&list=UU-Y8tHCwNCHYzGL8iw5IOXA&feature=c4-overview

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:10 | 4480243 economics9698
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1.  Inflation.

2.   Austerity, the real kind.

3.   Bankruptcy, not going to happen, the bankers rule the world.

4.  War, yep the old tried and true method of killing goyim for centuries. 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:11 | 4480538 Manthong
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Ah yes..  the Ukranian Maginot line, built by NATO.

Yuk, yuk!   :-D

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:41 | 4480717 superflex
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Dont look now but here comes Vlad.  I wonder if this river is in the EU-kraine?

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/3a62f881cde0f...

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:12 | 4482872 StychoKiller
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So, to sum up:  NATO can't go traipsing into the Ukraine, because that would be violating their sovereignty, meanwhile Russia can just sit tight and watch the Ukrainians freeze and starve, waiting for the EU to rescue them from their own stupidity.  Man, it sucks big time to be a Ukrainian right now!

Sooner or later, probably much later, Ukraine will be begging Putin to throw them a rope.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:09 | 4480251 Ignatius
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"NATO COMMENDS ARMY FOR STAYING OUT OF UKRAINE POLITICAL CRISIS"

Like the way our military showed restraint in Boston?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:15 | 4480282 ShortTheUS
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Couple more just in:

 

AFP: Ukraine requests international arrest warrant for Yanukovych: prosecutor

RTRS-UKRAINE'S YANUKOVICH HAS BEEN PUT ON THE INTERNATIONAL WANTED LIST-ACTING PROSECUTOR GENERAL

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:18 | 4480295 Spastica Rex
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Yanukovych must be a heinous criminal, or else what happened might have to be called a coup.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:52 | 4480470 SWRichmond
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In a democracy, it is imperative that the armed forces do not intervene in the political process.

Otherwise, the citizenry will realize that the political process is a total sham, that elections are merely the choice, from among pre-chosen insiders, of a new and unbridled "elected" king.  Should they realzie that, real change might occur, ruiing our income stream.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:00 | 4480802 Meat Hammer
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I wonder how long it takes them to write this shit, what with all the having to stop for fits of laughter.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:19 | 4480307 Son of Captain Nemo
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Yep.

No organized political plan using Parliamentary rules to take a democratically elected Yanukovych.  Must do it from the "outside" with $5 billion to destroy government property, loot museums and kill or maim law enforcement with stolen firearms.

Major international violations by the U.S. and NATO of the 1994 Budapest Accord(s)?

Nothing to see here.  Now run along!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:03 | 4481157 Paveway IV
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Crony, incompetent Ukrainian opposition party members: $5B of US 'incentive' over decades

Results: Fail

Euromaidan protestors: $0 of US 'incentive', three months, baseball bats + Molotov cocktails

Results: Topple Yanukovych; bitch-slap opposition and their cowardly deal for him to remain in power another eight months; purge cronies; retake country

 

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:28 | 4480654 silvermail
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"AFP: Ukraine requests international arrest warrant for Yanukovych: prosecutor

RTRS-UKRAINE'S YANUKOVICH HAS BEEN PUT ON THE INTERNATIONAL WANTED LIST-ACTING PROSECUTOR GENERAL"

In Ukraine today there is no legitimate authority. Persons who committed an armed coup, is the culprit and criminals.
Criminals do not have the right to request other countries to trace and arrest anyone whatsoever".

This is just a pathetic attempt of these impostors, get any semblance of legitimacy and recognition of their unlawful seizure of power in Ukraine.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:18 | 4480294 BLOTTO
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Maybe this is a way to get various troops and equipment mobilized in the area without looking suspicious (because its for the Ukraine situation) but meanwhile, its all a setup for a greater cause...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:30 | 4480365 Ignatius
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War with Russia over 'our right' to establish a puppet regime and NATO missiles in Ukraine is an insane risk.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:41 | 4481351 MarsInScorpio
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Ig:

 

It is

 

MAD.

-30-

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 18:04 | 4482179 August
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NATO troops will be home by Christmas.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:18 | 4480877 Freddie
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Will the NWO bring in crisis actors like Sandy Hook?  Odd how 90% of the crisis actors in CT were a certain type of person.  The real kids and parents (only a few) who were interviewed said they never heard any shots.  Odd how that works. 

Hopefully the Russian marines will treat the crisis actors like they treated Somali pirates.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:34 | 4480378 williambanzai7
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Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:41 | 4480406 BLOTTO
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Good job WB7

.

Just need to add in the Kraken Monster in one of those seas by Norway...(maybe the protruding hand is its tentacle?)

And a flashing Red Dragon in Wales...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:45 | 4480427 Son of Captain Nemo
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Out of all of them on this map I'd say the President of the United States needs another round of the "hair on the dog that bit him" and fast.

Superb!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:35 | 4480382 Dollarmedes
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+1 for this.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:16 | 4480589 Thought Processor
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Yah, really relax people, it's just a drill.

 

You know just like when FEMA has drills inside the U.S.  

 

er.... wait a minute...

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:07 | 4480228 Max Damage
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  • NATO: INDEPENDENT, STABLE SYRIA KEY TO EURO-ATLANTIC SECURITY
  • NATO BACKS SYRIAN TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY, ALLIANCE SAYS
  • NATO ALLIES CONTINUE TO BACK SYRIA SOVEREIGNTY, ALLIANCE SAYS
  • NATO BACKS `INVIOLABILITY OF FRONTIERS' ON SYRIA ALLIANCE
  • NATO COMMENDS ARMY FOR STAYING NOT OUT OF SYRIAN POLITICAL CRISIS
  • NATO SAYS IMPERATIVE THAT SAUDI ARMY DOESN'T INTERVENE

There - Corrected it for you Tyler

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:18 | 4482903 StychoKiller
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So hard to tell the playas without a scorecard...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:40 | 4480377 thunderchief
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So is this the grand distraction from....

A western gold default?

6 years of wealth transfer from middle class to rich?

No one buying US bonds and China dumping them is mass?

A failed and fake recovery that cannot be faked any longer, and no way of making the world accept dollars to support the military industrial complex?

A stock market so high on QE crack is going to go no bid and implode any day?

Gold manipulation to the point the western world is drained clean of
of physical including Germany, and lets not even talk about how economically the EU and Japan are fucked..

Fracking which is about as short term high as cracking?

I could keep going but....

Is this why the USA needs WWIII with Russia?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:27 | 4480912 Kirk2NCC1701
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War:  the last lifeboat of a failing fiat currency, the USD.  Aka King Dollar, Petro-Dollar.

With fewer and fewer foreign buyers of USTs (who aren't printing like crazy themselves), the nakedness of the Emperor are becoming increasingly more obvious.  To counter/front-run this, TPTB need to make other currencies and economies naked and destitute also.  Soon everyone will be naked.  The question then is: Who looks least and most appealing when 'naked'?

"There is no body shaming in a Nudist Colony." - Kirk

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:20 | 4480613 silvermail
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I recently heard an interesting saying:
"You can play poker with the Russian and gradually win them. But never play with Russian, in Russian roulette.  Because in this game, Russian has no concept of unacceptable damage. After the start of this game, you can not get away from the table or pause the game."

I think that right now, Russian send us the offer to play namely in this game.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:03 | 4480204 Sudden Debt
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morons playing a game of chicken with our taxmoney yet again...

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:13 | 4480276 john39
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and with our lives.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:19 | 4480306 Jorgen
Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:22 | 4480318 game theory
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They aren't really morons though. The people who went to work for the gov't clearly are the only winners in the last few years besides the bank execs. Gov't workers and police and firefighters and military personnel have been raking it in since 2007. If it seems like the Fed will stop printing, why not agitate for war as a means to keep deficit spending going?  

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:13 | 4480844 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yes, they are playing Chicken, but no longer with 'our' tax "money".  Rather, it's 'their' tax "currency".  For which (fiat debt obligations) they will tax, encumber and bleed you every which way, until they have us in total submission and serfdom.

But I suspect that we're both saying the same thing, albeit mine has more of a fixation on technically-correct language.  :-)

p.s. You use the term 'moron' correctly (from its clinical meaning), but apply it to the wrong side.  It is us who are the 'morons' for putting up with all this, not them.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:03 | 4480207 LawsofPhysics
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"Frontiers"?  WTF?  Pretty telling how quickly the U.N. decides to call a sovereign state a "frontier".

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:04 | 4480214 TeamDepends
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Borders are for the little people.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:08 | 4480231 Cygnus Nigri
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Unless you are from Mexico...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:08 | 4480240 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yep and good eye. Pay attention to language as George Carlin used to say. It always betrays real intentions no matter how hard people try to hide them.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:34 | 4480957 Meat Hammer
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Yep.  I was in the mood for some comedy the other day so I turned on msnbc just as they were having a panel disussion with Mia Farrow's kid and come other cunts, discussing Hagel's presser about military cuts.  One of the panel members, Alex Wagner, suddenly says, "Yeah, I mean that's why we wanted Hagel.  I mean, that's why the Obama administration wanted him".

Oops.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:18 | 4481250 the_magician
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You got confused, thats all. UN is just using an old term for border territory of Russians, Polish and everyone in between in old ages. Look where the name of Ukraine comes from. It means borderland, by the border or just frontier. Many centuries Ukraine was just that, a frontier of other kingdoms, duchies and so on.

 

Anyway, fucking bastards ei? 

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:03 | 4480208 Max Damage
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And the sovereignty of the Russain Ukranians? Sorry they don't matter to the banksters, in fact nobodies lives matter to them as long as they get MOAR 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:20 | 4480310 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Hey, the borders of the Ukraine, drawn up by Lenin and Stalin as an administrative unit of the USSR, are sacred, mister.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:04 | 4480212 youngman
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Dont we have a ship stuck on a sandbar pretty close....that should scare them those ruskies..

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:05 | 4480213 Winston Churchill
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Kaiser Wilhelm  announces general mobilization.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:04 | 4480215 ebworthen
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NATO doesn't have the guts.

Besides, the West has become more illegitimate than the Soviet Bloc ever was.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:13 | 4480273 ParkAveFlasher
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+1 for gutless NATO.  They didn't lie BTW, just clung to "plausible deniability" in the statement because by "inviolability" they meant to say, if Russia considers the borders illegitimate, thus not the creation of a valid act of a lawful body recognized by Russia as indeed a lawful body, there are indeed inviolable, because in order to violate a restriction, the restriction must first be recognized as legitimate. 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:15 | 4480281 john39
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all it will take is one well placed false flag attack and WWIII will be red hot.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:21 | 4480297 ParkAveFlasher
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Be wary of that kind of thinking, it is not the actual threat of war that leads to armament but the perceived threat of war, and massive expense of armament does not imply that the arms are ever put to good use, if arms could be put to good use at all.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:19 | 4480293 kito
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there is no NATO. there is the US and some pea shooters. thats it.  wasnt it NATO that ran out of bombs during their assault on syria???

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:10 | 4480565 Baldrick
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Libya.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:15 | 4480581 kito
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whoops!! i did mean libya. thanks

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:05 | 4480216 Sudden Debt
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EU eunuchs against USSR eunuchs against US eunuchs about who has the biggest balls...

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/6a0/9f9/6a09f936-4fa6-4786-9f...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:05 | 4480218 joego1
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The west has not the will nor the money to face off Russia on their home turf. There will be a lot of battle ship mouth and row boat ass as Putin manuvers into a check mate position.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:05 | 4480221 agent default
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Didn't they issue a similar statement about Georgia?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:06 | 4480222 shermacman
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I have no doubt that NATO at this moment is scheduling a committee to establish a decisive course of action to be enforced by a sternly worded letter.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:07 | 4480234 elwind45
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Putin thinks its going according to plan!!!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:07 | 4480236 Son of Captain Nemo
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NATO BACKS `INVIOLABILITY OF FRONTIERS' ON UKRAINE: ALLIANCE

WOORRRDDDDSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:08 | 4480241 Seasmoke
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Gold should be going up $100 a day. 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:16 | 4480288 Bastiat
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But the banksters get to run their state sanctioned options expiry thuggery, regardless.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:09 | 4480249 Typing Typer
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Yikes, maybe we will have a violent exchange between Russia and Nato, that would be a shocker.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:10 | 4480254 Johnny Cocknballs
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Predictable, of course. 

So then, Putin recommends a plebiscite for the Eastern Provinces and Crimea.

The Global Banking Empire then argues against this Democratic Terrorism, noting that a plebiscite would be 'premature' or some such...

I mean, what is this?  Kosovo?

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:31 | 4480328 Son of Captain Nemo
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I mean, what is this?  Kosovo?

You know JCB I wouldn't put it past them to be delusional enough to use the same playbook?

Lest we forget Kosovo with incident that sparked that British General to tell the American "shit for brains" 4 Star that he's not going to start WWIII "over an airport"!

Wacked out of skull.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:49 | 4480452 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

I mean, what is this?  Kosovo?

Funny you should mention it...

Ukraine, Bosnia on Pyres of Empire

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:10 | 4480255 the not so migh...
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NATO : This aggression won't stand , man

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:10 | 4480257 youngman
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The Nato guys are all putting on their nice dress uniforms...and will meet at lunch at some fancy hotel....good food for all

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:25 | 4480342 ILLILLILLI
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Who says war don't pay moar...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:32 | 4480369 Non Passaran
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Obama needs to create jobs for all those folks returning from AfPak ...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:38 | 4480994 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'm ashamed to say that I have a couple of family members who serve in fucking NATO.  Neither would have a career or much of a job, were it not for joining the military in their respective EU countries.

p.s. One is just young and hopeful, the other one is a sly, spineless cocksucker who worked his way up the administrative food-chain.  IOW, both fit in perfectly.  But don't ask me how I really feel.  ;-)

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:27 | 4482936 StychoKiller
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Why didn't you just pull a few strings at starfleet for them?  They could be shipped out to the neutral zone, on a very long patrol...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:11 | 4480265 buzzsaw99
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democracy and rule of law, LMAO!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:12 | 4480270 i_call_you_my_base
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It took three days for NATO to act like it owns Ukraine.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:13 | 4480272 elwind45
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I remember when in the old days the monster is dragged into the vacuum and explodes. W.Rooney makes 82p.a second to punch the ground now that's a bubble?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:15 | 4480280 Yen Cross
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    This is playing out like one of those (B) rated doomer movies, where out of some Fuckistan banana republic WWIII erupts and we all go live underground for the next 1000 years...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:22 | 4480324 Tracerfan
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NATO LIES.  Total F'ing hypocricy.  NATO supports the "inviolability of frontiers"?  Tell that to Serbia and Kosovo!!!!

NATO invaded and redrew the borders only recently.  Total batshit liars.  Who wrote this shit at NATO?

The Ukraine "frontiers" were drawn by Soviet General Secretary Nikita Krushchev, a Ukrainian, as a gift to what was than a Soviet constituent republic.  It put parts of Russia and many Russians over the new internal administrative border.

NATO violated Libyan borders and Serbian borders and would love to violate other borders.  Good luck trying that in Eastern Europe morons!  Paris and London can be turned to glass in 20 minutes.  Don't be suicidal fools!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:28 | 4480353 Johnny Cocknballs
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American politicians are divided into two types. The first one believes their own fairy tales, the rosy one about themselves and the dirty about everyone else. The second type is the cynical one, they know that their words are not true, but say them anyway. I do not rule out that Obama belongs to the first type, but for us there is no big difference. In a recent statement, he said that the Ukrainian army should not interfere, or else. That is, the Ukrainian army has no right to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine and the U.S. has this right to interfere in the internal affairs of Yugoslavia and Ukraine. The Americans do not understand the absurdity of their statements, and, unfortunately, it is the most powerful country with a strong network of military bases, NGOs, secret Service, and it intervenes in every way, from moralizing to bombings. There is no need to listen to them, we have to protect our own interests," concluded Vitaly Tretyakov.

 

- http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/24-02-2014/126910-obama_boring-0...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:31 | 4482953 StychoKiller
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[quote]

There is no need to listen to them, we have to protect our own interests," concluded Vitaly Tretyakov.

[/quote]

But, but...John Kerry!  He's got lots of Ketchup...and stuff!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:30 | 4480357 Mister Ponzi
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These rules do not apply to Serbia, Russia, China, Syria and Iran.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:24 | 4480331 Johnny Cocknballs
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Slightly off topic, but I think most will agree that it is more important:

World's most flexible girl comes from Russia
Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:28 | 4480355 Son of Captain Nemo
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And wearing red patton rubber to boot!

Nice

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:59 | 4480502 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The image of her in bluejeans (number 9 in the series) is a good photo.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:33 | 4482962 StychoKiller
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Ya gotta luv a gal that can bend over backwards for you!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 23:09 | 4483278 Dr. Destructo
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Ya know, maybe a Russian invasion wouldn't be so bad if there were divisions of women like her doing the invading.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 23:36 | 4483337 Real Estate Geek
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That's a great spread, so to speak.  And it looks like that site has plenty more (e.g. Greatest Cover Girls; Victoria's Secret Supershow 2013, etc.)

http://english.pravda.ru/photo/

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:24 | 4480334 chicagomike666
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While the focus of the MSM has been on the Russian vs. EU aspect of the Ukrainian situation---we might also expect China to weigh in soon....

In the late fall of last year, the former President rescinded a Ukrainian law banning the sale of agricultural land to foreign entities.  Shortly afterword, a Chinese state affiliated company (Xinjiang Construction and Production) entered into a 50 year master lease of over 6 Million Acres of agricultural land in the Crimea.  For sake of perspective, this is an area roughly the size of Massachusets---and represents some of the most fertile land in the Ukraine.   My understanding is that there is already some question as to whether the ex-regimes decision to rescind the foreign ownership ban was "legal"---and whether the lease will be terminated.

 I have been told that there is already behind the scenes jockying regarding the status of this property.  I would note that I am not any kind of "insider" and I take claims like this with the proverbial "grain of salt".

However, what does seem to be clear is that many large powerful parties have interests in Ukraine--and not all of them are readily discernable.  Whether its pipelines (EU interest) or massive ag land (China) or military ports (Russia)---there is clearly a lot at stake for a lot of powerful stakeholders. 

My personal belief is that Russia will not "roll in the tanks" ala Hungary in the 50's only because the likely result would be massive opposition from Georgia Belarus and the entire western flank of their sphere of influence.

However, Mr Putin is arguably the most capable geo-politician in the world today---and I would not rule out the real partition of Ukraine.  In short, there is a real Poker game going on and the Pot is larger than most people realize. It will be interesting to see who folds first.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:27 | 4480348 the not so migh...
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he sent in tanks already

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:30 | 4480363 Johnny Cocknballs
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just apcs so far i think.

the Georgia PM is due to arrive in Washington soon though to ask for "protection" from Russia.

 

Ah, the fruits of interventionism. 

Don't blame me, I wrote in Ron Paul.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:49 | 4481077 Kirk2NCC1701
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So, no CYA-sponsored Green Spring in Georgia forthcoming?

And an FSB-sponsored Georgian Spring is "illegal, immoral, and unacceptable aggression and imperialism", as Susan Brown Rice will probably say?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:25 | 4480642 swmnguy
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To this point, it's explainable as returning stuff to Crimea that had been there before, but was sent to Sochi for extra security for the Olympics.  And he's guarding what's undeniably Russian stuff, like the port of Sevastopol, bases, etc.  Obviously, there's no mistaking the signaled intent.  But so far, there has been nothing aggressive.  Not that that won't change, but Putin's clearly waiting here.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:37 | 4482976 StychoKiller
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Ukraine is so far off-balance that hitting it with a feather will knock them on their @ss!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:25 | 4480337 Hindenburg...Oh Man
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BTFATH….another 14 year high on the NASDAQ….and, oh yeah, sell gold!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:25 | 4480341 SgtShaftoe
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The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists.

Ernest Hemingway

 

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:27 | 4480347 bankonzhongguo
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Ukraine relationship with NATO is governed by the NATO-Ukraine Action Plan, adopted 2002. In April 2005, Ukraine entered into Intensified Dialogue with NATO and during 2008 NATO declared that Ukraine could become a member of NATO when it wants to join and meets the criteria for accession. However, by 2010 Ukraine had announced that it no longer had NATO membership as a goal under the foreign policy of the "old" President.

Watch for Ukraine to ask for NATO membership like yesterday.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:32 | 4480367 gdiamond22
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Buy on the sounds of cannons, sell on the sounds of trumpets.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:33 | 4480376 elwind45
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An over rated utility forward/mid fielder makes a dollar a second at a football club headed by a yank/sarcasm and not personal

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:35 | 4480383 Non Passaran
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The Congress and EU parliament should go in first.

Led by Obama and van Rompuy, of course.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:35 | 4480385 elwind45
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I still think Reggie is smarter than Whallen and more attractive than professor Black

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:36 | 4480388 Apeman
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FU NATO

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:42 | 4480411 ziggy59
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" We emphasise the importance of an inclusive political process based on democratic values, respect for human rights, minorities and the rule of law, which fulfils the democratic aspirations of the entire Ukrainian people"

Oh sure..lets ask Iraq, Libya..
Lying fux!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:58 | 4480500 tony wilson
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" We emphasise the importance of an inclusive political process based on democratic values, respect for human rights, minorities and the rule of law, which fulfils the democratic aspirations

 

nice

google image depleted uranium babies iraq

google image white phosphorus israel

ask nato about the 10s of thousands of tons of depleted uranium dumped on operation freedom libya.

depelted uranium a nato rothschild cancer gift for a billion fucking years

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:17 | 4480593 Son of Captain Nemo
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google image white phosphorus israel

Hate to say it T. but the U.S. dumped hundreds of tons of "whiskey pete" on Fallujah in that 2004 post G.W. war dance in his second stolen election victory celebration code names "Operation Thanksgiving masacre".

I hate Israel with a passion, but everything they do we do to the "power of 10".

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:21 | 4480620 Son of Captain Nemo
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Did I just mention Iraq 2014?...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:32 | 4480677 Johnny Cocknballs
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And it's fine to criticize the US for doing so, Cap'n. A lot of American troops were unhappy about it.

But please remember that if you criticize Israel for doing it, you are an anti-semite who supports Hitler.

They were only defending themselves from those children.  It's kosher - they might have grown up to resist the occupation of their homeland, so killing them now is totally cool. And anyway, their life is nothing compared to Jewish life.

Also, if a Jewish person says something that would be deemed inarguably racist if an equivalent statement were said by an Arab or, say, white Southerner, and you call him a racist, that means you are an anti-semite.

 

Easy rules - no excuse not to follow them, guy.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:55 | 4480772 Son of Captain Nemo
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JCB

Agreed.  But being "unhappy about it" doesn't quite cut it. 

Case in point. I went to a town hall meeting represented by the Christian Zionist tribal leaders Congressmen Jim Moran -VA and John Murtha -PA in Arlington Virginia in January of 2005 on a proposal they themselves were floating to get the U.S. out of Iraq.  During a question and answer session I raised my hand to speak about the documentary by Sigfrido Ranucci that had recently come out on the atrocities the U.S. committed in Fallujah.  You might recall the Italian journalist responsible for providing some of that footage was pursued by American "forces" inside Iraq who's body guard was murdered protecting her.

Both of them were livid when I mentioned it, but were reserved enough to stay cool because I started a debate that they didn't want to get into because of the bad PR it represented. All Moran would say to me is that he " only had been made aware of it recently and that he was still investigating it"...

They weren't there to stop a war and bring troops home.  They were there to use it as a sounding board for the growing discontent to go back to the” bivouac” with to figure out a way to diffuse the growing unpopularity of the crisis they themselves promoted and that our military was making worse by the hour.

Israel?

It's the little parasitic monster the U.S. and Britain can only blame themselves for creating. Now see how they run...

Like it or Not!

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:13 | 4481209 Kirk2NCC1701
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JCB, I object to how the term "Antisemitism" is "technically incorrect" and has been hijacked by Zionists with Madison Ave expertise, to "reposition" and to "spin" this term in the greater Debate.

Technically, a Semite is a descendant of Shem.  For those who don't know, Shem was one of the sons of the Biblical character "Noah".  Assuming, for argument's sake, that Noah was more real than the story after whom it's named, descendants of said Shem include many of the ME tribes of today.  It also includes the indigenous people of Palestine:  the Palestinians.

Therefore, how the heck can you be antisemitic, w/o also being against non-Jewish Semites (Palestinians!)?  The answer is, of course:  You can't.  And yet 99.9% of 'Mericans and Zio-indoctrinated Westerners are totally clueless on this fact.  When you define terms and frame the Debate, you win said Debate 95% of the time

And, with the passage of enough time, Fiction becomes revisionist Fact.

p.s. Look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution... to learn that...

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on November 10, 1975 by a vote of 72 to 35 (with 32 abstentions), "determine[d] that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination".  ... The resolution was passed with the support of the Soviet bloc and other then Soviet-aligned nations, in addition to the Arab and Islamic majority countries.

You can guess which Western countries vote against this resolution, which was eventually revoked with a new UN Resolution in 1991 with UN General Assembly Resolution 46/86, shortly following the end of the Cold War.  Since the Ex-Soviet bloc no longer existed, the US saw to it that the nomination and passage of said Resolution sailed through successfully.

pps. Damn it, life was so much easier and simpler when I took the daily Blue Pill!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:46 | 4481317 Son of Captain Nemo
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Need more information on that one Kirk.  You need to examine the ultra-orthdox "True Torah" Jews in this dialogue who don't consider themselves to be Zionists and don't believe the State of Israel should exist...

"Anti-Semite" is the Zionist Jew's all-encompassing label to castigate anyone who is "anti-Israel"!

I don't normally bring this up because of organized religion'any organized religion for that matter used primarily for political motives and objectives. But Israel is a theocratic fascist state that "hijacked a religion" (.)

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 08:04 | 4483844 Ghordius
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"Zionist Jew'"

first, you don't need to be a Jew in order to be a Zionist. Example: plenty of Christian Zionists

second, "Zionist" as such - UN resolution withstanding - means since the first Zionist Congress that to the question "should Jews be allowed to have their own Nation with territory" you answer: "Yes" (note: this leaves out where and how)

seen this way, both Adolf Hitler (who explored the option of setting a Jewish State in Madagascar) and myself are Zionists

now of course since Zionism is a form of nationalism, lots and lots of crimes can be perpetrated in it's name. as Samuel Johnson said, the flag is the last refuge of a scoundrel

yet since this is ZH: nations exist. they are real. perhaps not where you live, but travel a bit and you'll realize that this form of group bonding is not to be dismissed as imaginary

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 19:35 | 4486834 Flakmeister
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I admire the patience you exhibit with these fools...

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:11 | 4480570 the phantom
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What about the territorial integrity of Serbia when they ripped Kosovo out?  What's that you say NATO??  Putin was the only one talking silly concepts like "territorial integrity" and "rule of international law" then... but to no avail.  But I guess that was "different". 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:18 | 4480596 Essential Intel...
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There is no way that President Vladimir Putin will relinquish Russian control of the Crimean peninsula and its military bases there – or more particularly the big Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol. This military stronghold is the key to Russia’s Middle East policy. If it is imperiled, so too are Russia’s military posture in Syria and its strategic understandings with Iran. DETAILS HERE

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:37 | 4480698 AynRandFan
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NATO is the EU's Maginot Line.

Better we send Kerry to bore them to death.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:53 | 4480775 Luckhasit
Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:57 | 4480795 Debugas
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meanwhile average wages in ukraine is 3148 hryvna per month which at current exchange rate is less than 300 USD 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:42 | 4481031 Freddie
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If they let those EU/IMF/USA parasites in then they will end up like Greece. 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:01 | 4480812 SmittyinLA
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Imagine the horror of a fleet of Marine Ospreys arriving full of dykes ready to take on Spetznatz

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:22 | 4480901 Kavklov
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HEY NATO CRAP ooooo  are you going to do the same in Ukraine what you did in Lybia? You WHITE COLAR TERROSISTS MOTHER FUCKERS!!! I WILL LOVE TO SEE SOME SS-N22 MOSKIT MISSILES BLOWING YOUR STUPID NAVY!!!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:38 | 4480995 Son of Captain Nemo
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Did I mention that our military is prepared for "anything"?

Sure hope that new U.S. Army recruitment campaign with "3 squares a day" and a permanent domicile consisting of a "bunk bed" with 50 other roomies as an alternative to a regular paid salary works out!

Russia here we come!

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:07 | 4481188 Smiley
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Watch out Europe is all fired up; strongly worded letters and wagging fingers inbound!

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 23:06 | 4483268 Dr. Destructo
Thu, 02/27/2014 - 07:46 | 4483820 whidbey-2
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The west has itself between a rock and a hard place. Obama talks too much and does too little.  Europe/NATO will not defend the actions of the Ukraine and the Crimean is the very heart of Russian foreign policy. Russians view this as a threat to their home land. The US is the heart of any action taken by NATO (read Sixth Fleet) which is a poor man's navy.   Is this event about to join our list of Obama foreign policy blunders?? No one in Europe or the Middle East respects US resolve or leadership to enforce its views.  Weak presidents (who have little domestic support) cause wars

Thu, 02/27/2014 - 07:51 | 4483828 satoshi123
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Don't talk about OBAMA he is already KAPUT, anybody that mentions OBAMA is a fucking HO to mis-information, keep your eye-of-sauron on HILLARY-bITCH-2016.

I can't believe these assholes come here with this shit, it was posted 2+ weeks ago that HILLARY/KERRY engineered the UKRAINE CIA collapse at the cost of $5 Billion US-FED-FIAT virtual-notes.

PUTIN is the victim in all this, and AIPAC/EU/CIA/MOSSAD has gone FUCKING FULL RETARD.

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