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On The Roads Into The Crimea, The Quiet Russian Mobilization Continues
Not a day passes without a YouTube clip being released showing some colonnade of Russian vehicles headed into the Ukraine, and specifically into the Crimea, where the Russian base of Sevastopol is located, and where the biggest pro-Russian support groups are to be found. Today, we show the following Youtube clip taken recently with a dashcam, several miles above the port of Novorossiysk near the village of Gaiduk, which shows Russian vehicles carrying assorted military equipment being carried toward the Crimean.
The clip's author adds that "each day new transports head into the Ukraine." Of course, now that Russia officially declared a massive military drill, there is an explanation for such sitings: it is all practice.
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It's a drill until it isn't...
DaddyO
It's all fun and games untill somebody presses a button...
You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine
They are going to split the country. This has been in the works since the thirties.
A relatively peaceful split seems to be the best resolution of this problem. I'm not saying I support it but that's what it seems like to me. It doesn't seem like there are any good resolutions to this issue and a lot of really bad ones including large wars.
The stage is being set. Anyone care to wager what the next move is from the west?
Ok I'll go first- How about a stiff warning from Obummer not to cross some non existent line. er, wait he did that already.
Or how about this- The US begins prepositioning JSOC personell in country. Oops. Did that too.
Anyone else with some ideas? Cause this should get interesting.
BO: If the Russians were to move military hardware into Ukraine that would represent a red line for us.
BO: What?... Really? Oh.
BO: If Russia... If... Oh snap... Hey anyone got another red pen? Mine is all out.
Silent Russian invasions of global strategic pinch points is what happens when the USA loses all diplomatic credability.
Shut down the US embassy that is paying the protestors and suicide Soros.....game over
Rule #1 of life: never ever live in Central Europe / Caucasus, between Russia and Germany / Hungary. Ask any Pole or Ukranian, or one from any of the "Baltic States" (Kourland etc).
If the Chinese wanted more of Russia's gas at a better price they should be fomenting unrest in Turkey.
Just sayin'...
Mandatory for this thread...
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/war-inc/
WAR, Inc...
ori
As long as its not my kid dying there, "Let's got to WAR!!!"
Now you're talking! Can the US not stay the fuck out of countries that pose no threat to them or have any economic value? As for Soros, must be the most evil psychpath on the planet just now.
Stand-off like always. The west goes in to protect government building the Russians secure the Pipelines. Priorities? Europe gets antsy and backsdown! U.S. says it was a planned buildup claims progress and attacks morroco!
I agree, its not a war until France surrenders.
You guys thought I was fucking kidding about Sevastopol...
Careful with the French surrendering comment. I thought that was funny too until someone with a better knowledge of history pointed out that one of the greatest sacrifices of lives relative to the size of the overall population of the country is in fact France during WWI, with over 1.5 million lost. And they were fighting for their own sovereignty.
Also, lest those in the U.S. forget- It was the support of the French that enabled the U.S. to win against the British in it's own fight for sovereignty.
There was also a time in history where France ruled Europe, under Napoleon... It took a 'great Alliance', which really was just everyone (England, Russia, Prussia) sticking together, knowing that if they didn't, Napoleon could pick them off one by one.
Correct. I hold no brief for the French but they had great armies for centuries. All this surrender stuff relates to WW2, but as you say, their casualties were so terrible in WW1 that they had no stomach for another major war.
This will not end well for the globalist.
,
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=3892
That picture of Vlad riding the bear is priceless.
TP,
Not saying that it cant get bad, but imo, this isnt the powder keg catalyst we are looking for.
I believe the big one would be something that comes from the middle east, that draws in all the 'big players,' i.e, Israel, Russia, Iran, US, Turkey, etc...
zato is stoking another drive to intervene in Syria now. I listened to mainstream radio in the car this morning just to sample the propaganda... and it was exactly like the 'babies in incuabators' run up to the first invasion of Iraq. relentless stories of Assad terrorizing civilians with one ton barrel bombs, starving civilians, and waging an all out war on unarmed civilians. the level of dishonesty is shocking, but most Americans have no idea because they are boxed in by the corporate media. the agenda is obvious, but let's see where it goes.
"sample the propaganda"
Too funny. And too true!
This guy, Alois Irlmaier, described WWIII as starting in the Balkans, with troops moving west from the east. I remember reading his words years ago. I don't put too much stoke in this sort of thing, but the part that really caught my attention today was...
Tanks move along high-speed freeways and other fast highways.
http://www.foxcrawl.com/2013/05/12/world-war-iii-to-spark-in-balkans-cla...
yeah, right on ... russia is a big force. so it was yugoslavia, and iraq ithink the journalist who are the best at what they do (whatever that is) informed the uninformed public that it was the 4th largest army in the world ... and so, it continues into the next chapter of the book ... carry on ... nothing to see here
Why the down arrow??? On the basis that all the recent wars of choice were not preceded by an avalanche of subsequently disproved propaganda?
Yeah, funny you should mention that.
A mate of mine lent me a couple of books about European prophecies a couple of weeks ago.
Very scary indeed
@Thought Processor
You want a prediction? Here it is:
-West will do nothing except conduct a pathetic whispering campaign a la Victoria Nuland. Russia probably won't even notice.
-Russia will continue to stack troops in the Crimea, possibly extending out to other Black Sea ports like Odessa. This will be a symbolic show of force, as nobody is expecting an assault from any faction on Russian-held ports.
-There will continue to be rattling of the Russian sabre, but nothing will happen. Russia will try to keep the country together in one piece, and influence/rig the May elections. This is much preferable to partition (at least to the Russians) because it maintains unitary control over the pipelines.
-Ukraine's economy will either deteriorate or tread water, but Russia will not want to bail it out until they are certain of what they are paying for (i.e. the elections). Russia might try to sucker the west into a bailout, but that's going to be a tough sell.
-Ukrainian opposition will try to consolidate gains as fast as they can, but there is so much corruption that Russia can probably reverse their gains at any time in the future.
I think that's about it for now. Did you have any requests for specific scenarios?
Ukraine is a major choke point for energy heading to Europe.
I'm not sure what will happen but I think 'nothing' may be a bit optimistic.
We'll see though, as all things are revealed in time.
Well, to clarify just a bit: "nothing of lasting significance."
There will be threats. There will be provocations. There will be chest-pounding.
But I expect the main dynamics to remain in place until the elections. After that, it's anyone's guess.
I say this because it doesn't seem to me to be in anyone's interests to provoke action, not when things *might* be smoothed out through back-room dealing. In other words, the possibility of gains or the certainty of costs.
Good post....
Yep. Backroom dealing is expected, especially if they want to keep it 'in the family'.
Pretty good prognostication, IMO.
The West can't afford a war with Russia for several reasons, including, 1.) Russia has nukes, and countries with nukes don't get attacked, 2.) Europe has no leverage, but Russia has plenty, 3.) who in Europe or the US is clamoring to fight in the Ukraine?
The American public just told .gov to pound sand in Syria. Who thinks we will line up to volunteer for an expense paid trip to Ukraine?
I have a sure winner...
Israel bombs somebody!
i don't know where the idiots who are talking about a 'peaceful split' are getting their ideas.
split ukraine? who want to split ukraine? russia wants to control the gas flowing to europe and nato doesn't want that.
pipelineistan has NOTHING to do with owning 'territory' so much as controlling resources.
who says russia wants to 'own' half of ukraine. russia wants to control all of ukraine. the west wants to control russia's central banking system. it's not really clear which families own what , but 45 million ukrainian people are unlikely to simply agree to 'spilt' their country because russia and nato are simply cutting a deal. ukraine is not sudan. and even sudan has some pretty serious civil war that has yet to occur in ukraine .
you want to split a country , you're going to need some serious war before hand. there can be NO pretending that russia and the u.s. are not directly headbutting here , in order to save face on the international stage.
if there is a 'split' there must be a reasonable sized war in ukraine between nato u.s. and russian troops.
i dont' see that happening. superpowers usually are powerful enough to resolve their differences by other means that exposing their deck of cards ( going head to head in a war) .
i predict a long drawn out set of civil conflicts that leads to devastating starvation and poverty for ukraine. why's that? because it's been happening in syria for 2 years already. and it is JUST FINE for the superpowers , so long as the people of the target country are starting to death. who cares? the superpowers can save face and pretend to be on the 'margin' of the conflict. no cards exposed. there problem is not a shortage of labor. the chinese factories can do all the necessary work while ukrainians starve. does the 'west' or the 'east' care about the destruction of lives in syria. no. they are just fine with that outcome. whatever is left of syria, and ukraine, after a prolonged period of starvation and deprivation will just be an even weaker morsel of pipelineistan to fight over for the superpowers.
the u.s. might push russia further by way of using nato and europe to wage economic war on russia , but I think the chinese can provide russia with necessary demand. by doing so----the u.s. and nato would be setting the stage for a great russo-sino alliance.
many ppeople think russia and china cannot truly join forces as the historical enmity between the two countries was so entrenched as to prevent stalin and mao from trusting one another. these are different times with different dictators.
with the u.s. and nato persistently pushing conflict by way of proxies such as ukraine, gulf oil alliance versus iran, taiwan, vietnam and japan-----------the chinese and russian cooperation can surely reach a point never before thought possible
everyone believes the threat of mutually assured destruction and the dark web of omniscient globlists can prevent some sort of catastophe. why? has history ended?
francis fukushima once wrote a book called the 'end of history' , displaying the incredible stupidity of academics and 'thinkers' can only be outmatched and surpassed by ttheir incredible arrogance. I would argue people who believe the superpowers of the world can cut clean simple deals indefinitely (such as improbable splitting of ukraine) , are very wrong, and that war is inevitable. and just like the stock market,---but on a longer time scale----the 'crash' of war becomes increasingly likely as time goes on without having had one, and yet, the likelihood of war occuring at any instant is still low and unpredictable.
The Europeans form a committee to discuss forming the denouncement committee...
thought experiment:
At a time of real risk and danger in the world, is there anyone you would trust less to protect American interests than Barry?
McCain. Now that was EZ
Nah, McCain is one of the biggst warmongers we have. I'm sure he'd protect some of our interests, if only by accident.
Obama?, McCain?, Romney?, Even Ron Paul?
None of them have demonstrated much skill at Global Chess
Ron Paul would let EUrope worry about their own gas supplies. Are you saying that would be against American interests? The last time the US gave up a blue water port, it was because a volcano had shittied up the place. You expect Russia to give up a perfectly good asset?
Yes
Biden.
John Kerry - the French idiot
yeah, God forbid that you actually have to stand and fight for something. And get all sweaty and icky and violents and such.
Just exactly where is your own line, Col. Travis?
Why are they letting Russians into the country. Stop them at the border and ask them for their visa and passport. No visa stamp then they dont get in. /s
Might be a bit like the Dems approach to boreer security with Mexico? But without the entitlements of course, although the need for votes is common.
The quiet American Mobilization continues too, right here in America...
Hey THX, I don't know how many here understand what your statement actually refers to but if not it's worth an explanation-
The Quiet American is a book that was written about an american CIA agent in Asia who was directing nefarious activities (fostering civil unrest, assasinations, revolution, coups and you get the idea). All in the name of Democracy and freedom of course though one has to question the ulterior motives given the outcomes and evidence of who gained what in terms of both power and ownership within said countries.
A follow up book was called the Ugly American. Both were fiction but very acurate in terms of how things were handled. It is believed that the books were based on the life of one Edward Lansdale who was deeply involved with Korea, the Philippines, and of course Vietnam. Mr. Lansdale was CIA with a cover commision as an Air Force officer.
It makes for interesting reading as his actions in all the above 'conflicts' preceed the intervention of the military in each case (in the case of the philippines his actions led to a military coup). In other words he was used to 'Set the Stage'.
His Bio makes for some interesting reading. Would recommend to all.
He was later id'd in a photograph in Dallas, in Dealey Plaza, at the time of the JFK assassination. I'll let you connect the dots on that one.
Fascinating. But I suspect he's talking code words, to all us here Rednex. Because there IS a lot of stacking going on. Still.
The people are stacking bullion and the DHS/Police are stacking ammo and armaments. America is going to be under martial law whent he collapse happens. They are preparing for it.
Who's the shillbot down voting all of us?
Edward Geary Lansdale (February 6, 1908 – February 23, 1987) was a United States Air Force officer who served in the Office of Strategic Services and the Central Intelligence Agency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lansdale
Thanks for the Wiki Link-
Every little bit helps.
Damn fine idea.
Why don't we do that at the Mexican border???
Would a travelocity computer printout get me a room with a view?
DoubleGuns;
Because they're Mexican-Russians
This has the feel of what happened in Georgia a few years ago. Minus the fighting. Ukraine, you are still a free and independent country. We wouldn't think of interfering in that. These Russian troops are just here to help you until you clean these bandits off the roads. Oh, don't bother to send any troops into this part of the country, everything is under control. In fact, we'll be sending Ukrainian troops over to help you in the western part of the country. Because we're your friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw
When will "O" draw another "Red LIne"? If so, I bet Putin is trembing in his boots and scared shitless?
"tell Vlad that in my second term, i'll have more flexibility"
The illegal alien is too busy pimping for Israel in Syria.
At most, he will screw up his face an throw a hissy fit.
No friggin respect for winter olympics goodwill and wind down on the West's part. I swear to god, I can't stand my Country of theives. Guess Obozo and his banker buddies don't really like skiing anyways....assholes.
Obozo just wants Ukranians a chance to be free to pay exorbitant insurance premiums with high deductibles or pay a penalty tax, be spied on by their own military, and slave for some corporate human grist mill.
WHAT A FANTASY.
If you are an American and not working for NBC. /spit
"olympics goodwill"
LOL, what a farce! sounds a lot like "democracy" newspeak
Fact is, while I don't watch TV really, the games were awesome and ski events were world class. Just a pisser to think John McCain was covorting with Neo Nazi's instead of showing his team support. Indicitive or how pyscopathic pur leaders are for their One World Order.
"You're going to shoot your eye out...."
Talk tough and do nothing. That's what Obama meant when he told Putin that they'll he'll be able to work together after the election.
I recently heard an interesting saying:
"You can play poker with the Russians and gradually win them. But never play with Russians, in Russian roulette. Because in this game, Russians has no concept of unacceptable damage. After the start of this game, you can not get away from the table or pause the game."
I think that right now, Russian send us the offer to play namely in this game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland
A quick right turn on the way to Sevastopol lands you in Kiev.
Some Barak Hussein sycophants are not liking the idea that Vlad is going to show the Messiah what it be in his 'hood.
Take out that bridge near Kerch and it will slow things up a bit!
NO BRIDGE AT KERCH, IT'S A FERRY. (BUT THERE SOON WILL BE)
Take out a Pipeline..Tell Russia that you will continue to take out pipelines and perhaps the Russians might see that they there Natural Gas becomes worthless because they can't sell it to Western Europe.
That may even stop this without loss of life.
Fuck Pukein
Talk about cutting yer nose off to spite yer face...
Those are real t(h)anks.
It is hard to understand why we are not friends with the Ruskies but we are with the Eurodorks. FFS already, we drive on the right side of the road unlike the poodles on the continent.
Which poodles might you be referring to? Last I checked they drive on the RIGHT on the continent.
CYG
i bet on american laziness...let them get all chachaboom with each other and step aside...it is the shafty shady deal we are famous for in recent mitary history and once mr. and mrs. america get involved we get another syria stunt with a backbrushed russian bear at our back yard gate...ever backbrush a bear hairs? but the zion/saudi axis is getting pulled out into the open and will be dumped in theater once any action looks probable. big corporate interests been playing in the open too long (a symptom of the system crash) and i doubt even the staunchest christian will nuke russia over israeli natgas or saudi monoachy income demands....imho..
Drill, baby, drill.
If Ukraine wouldn't be so much in the spotlight, it would have been as easy as Georgia for Russia to solve this.
Russia is about to do just that and give Obozo the finger again.
If Russian onboard cameras caught the first big asteroid of this century, big chances that they caught also the starting of the first world confragration of this century.
Here's a good oldy
http://youtu.be/r2B7sdLPMfc
MOAR WAR.... Check mate, Putin style
WAR is a CRIMEA
That is what we call a "masking operation". Bullshit. They're mobilizing armor. It's getting pretty real now ladies and gentlemen.
It'd be fun to take turns kicking the serial junker in the nuts.
One of Vlad's?
they need a taco punch (no balls)
"We got ourselves a convoy!"
The Russians WILL NOT allow the Ukraine to fall to the EU and the Brussels Bandits.
They will roll the tanks and fight for anything near the Black Sea and westward to Odessa at the very least. Who is going to stop them, Obama? Merkel with angry words? Hollande? No.
CAN YOU BLAME THEM?!
THAT'S LIKE RUSSIA TAKING OVER MEXICO OR CANADA!!
America and Europe are playing a dangerous game here.
Russia take over Canada? Ha...We have 2 Sea Kings (working) and 2 used British diesel subs (working) that say otherwise.
And close to a million Paper Bag Princes ready to protect the Princess with Maple Syrup Cocktails.
"As is tradition!"
that made me giggle.
You know, WW4 will probably in large part be fought over that delicious clean and pure {relatively} water you hosers have frozen away up in the Great White North, eh?
Those with the sharpest arrows and spears shall prevail.
THAT'S LIKE RUSSIA TAKING OVER MEXICO OR CANADA!!
Or Cuba?
I think that Putin is not a poor man. He can give the Taliban in Afghanistan about 1000 the latest Russian MANPADS and 3000 newest Russian RPG - Hashim and Cornet.
If he does this, for the U.S. Army would be very difficult to export back to the U.S. the bodies of their soldiers from Afghanistan.
Because the Taliban will shoot down any US aircraft out of Russian MANPADS, together with corpses of American soldiers from burned tanks.
I didn't hear him mention a red line, so I call Bullshitski on all this. </sarcski>
I SAY: LET THE GERMANS JUST HAVE POLAND!
We are not greedy. Getting back Silesia and Pommerania including Danzig will do it. Thanks anyway.
The Russians should carve up Ukraine with the Poles. Offer Poland the West Ukraine back (they have had it at various times over the centuries), but they may not want to have so many West Urkrainian neo-Nazis under their control) and Russia gets back East Ukraine which is really Russian anyways.
Sounds good.
We can move there and let the Musels, Roma and Sinti u.s.w.have Duisburg, Köln, Rhein-Main, Bremen u.s.w.
Why not.. we let the Soviets have it, after bitching about it being a causus belli for Germany to do it.
Bad luck for the Poles, all around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
I think this would be a fine trade, split Ukraine into West and East, EU/West gets the West part, Russia gets the East part plus Crimea. Problem solved.
2 days and Russian tanks can be parked in Brussels.
Europe doesn't really have a big army he!
But it will be reason why the industrial complex will call for a buildup...
man... trillions down the gutter yet again...
Only deterrent to Russia being in Brussels since 1945 is nukes. They could and probably would have been there at that time if it weren't for Hiroshima, and would have been there in weeks even when the western Allies were fully mobilized. The Russkies used 2 million to take Berlin alone. Only now we have leadership that won't even use the threat much less use the bomb. Nothing stopping the Russkies at all.
Those nukes have been there for over 50 years now.
I don't really know if it would be a wise thing to launch those.
just saying they are no longer a credible threat to Russia; definitely not wise at any time.
The Germans would stop them dead in their tracks.
Maybe Putin on a bear with a leopard or something could make it to brussels, but not their army.
You mean like this?
http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/3a62f881cde0f...
"The Germans would stop them dead in their tracks. "
As it was in 1945?
Woah !!
Hold on there horse.
Get a reality check. There is no, I repeat NO fucking German army !!!
Period. Get used to it.
In the 80's and 90's the Germans had fucking thousands of Leo I and Leo II's
They now have a total os 250 +/- MBT's
But, at least we'll get to see the Frogs fold in a matter of hours this time as opposed to the number of days it took the Germans.
Without the Frogs you would still be kissing the Queen's royal ass..............................
que hell march, we need a sound track
http://youtu.be/dfTPlsIq7d0
here you go buddy
Nice! But I think the soundtrack has to include some classic Killing Joke; maybe for the end credits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JUFdQ2p6Gg
C&C version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omm3QPMqyjc
The Ukraine splits in two like Germany after WWII. We're giving Vietnam essentially the goods to make nukes. South America is on fire. Nothing has really been fixed in the middle east. Monetary systems all over the globe are crashing. The stock market is ignoring everything and sending bullshit stocks to all time highs because an analyst says we'll have a utopian society in 20 years.
The only logical conclusion is we are all fucked.
The only logical conclusion is we are all fucked.
If you see 4 horsemen coming........your probably right.
AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN; PUTIN KNOWS THE UKRAINE IS A BLACK-HOLE OF CORRUPTION & CURRENT MALINVESTMENT, FULL OF PEOPLE (EXCEPT CRIMEA) THAT HAVE A 100+ YEAR HATRED OF RUSSIANS....GIVE THE GUY CREDIT, HE AIN'T STUPID, AND HE DOES HAVE THE COHONES THAT O'BOZO DOESN'T.
Hey, it's raining in California.
So...there's that.
Is it raining Fukushima drops?
Ya know, in the next five years the western mountain snow packs should glow at night thereby eliminating the need for night lights.
So...there's that...
Which is nice.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&v...
Thats one hell of a comment, I thought I was the only one who noticed the Vietnam thing.. A check to China's south and bonus they hate each other. You all know what you should be doing, are you doing it?
shtfplan
survivalblog
Sorry Tyler needed to be done..
The Chinese devalue their currency and sell 50B in US debt. Sounds like they are preparing to live in a world where the US not a customer.
Lower prices bring in other customers to keep the Chinese workforce busy.
Not buying US debt stops the pretend US econmy cold. The Fed can print but to what avail? $1000 dollar DVD players at wal mart thats what.
Thanks democ-rats
Fuck you obama.
Go PUTIN!
I agree with your first sentence... not your 2nd
If you were another country, who would you rather have invade and take over? The Russians or the USA... We should ask Afghanistan and Iraq.
Or maybe we could ask the Chechens or S. Ossetia.
I doubt the Russians will face much resistance up to the Dnieper.
But, I don't doubt that NATO is arming groups in the Western half of Ukraine.
Things could get ugly for some of those folks.
obviously the USA, you could qualify for welfare and sue your invader - and win
Is there an app for downvoting all the posts at once, or is someone just a douche with way too much time on their hands?
probably both, but I did notice the drive by douche.
My guess (not pointing fingers) is former members Cult_of_Reason or El Tuco as their masters have demanded they start a new acoounts to keep up their glorious work for the motherland of the USSA.
Obviously you misspelled the Queerland of the USSA.
Didnt you catch yesterday's post, where our asshole Uncle Sam hires idiots to sit around down- or up-voting shit that they think support fucking pricks like obama?
Tax dollars at work ... ministry of truth monkeys
Jim Carney must be frustrated today.
Fuck, I didn't need to read that article. I've BEEN to the DMV, son!
Dont like opposing opinions huh. Well lazy fuck down vote them all yourself.
I recommend you read my comment again, only this time stop at the question mark instead of the comma.
You are right. I junked myself for being an idiot!
This is all bullish, right? Yep - everything's green but gold. Carry on.
Obama will not draw a red line in the sand - this time thanks to his disaster with Syria he has more experience dealing with Putin -
So
Instead of a line it will be a streak.
Instead of red it will be brown.
Instead of in the sand it will be in his panties.
Russia has nothing to lose.
Barry is a tree hugging coward.
Invasion pending.
Yep our fearless leader vs Putin. We have no chance.
http://angelforisrael.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/putin-vs-obama.jpg