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Officers Of 76th Russian Shock Troops Division Operating In Ukraine

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Everyone is curious who those unmarked men in unforms that have been seen in youtube clips from the Crimea are. Courtesy of Russian blogger Lev Shlosberg who writes for the newspaper Pskovskaya Guberniya, we now have an answer: according to him they are the officers of the 76th Chernihov (Pskov) Storm Troops Division and have slowly dispersed across key choke points in Ukraine.

From his post, translated by

According to one of the participants in the operation, officers and contractors of the 76th Shock Troops Division have been re-locating to Ukrainian territory since last week. By early this week, there were already more than 100 soldiers. The last of the famous detachments was sent on Thursday, 27 February. They are fully armed, with 5,000 rounds of ammunition per person. There is one truck per 10 soldiers, and they are completely loaded with weapons including flame-throwers. Upon arrival on the territory of Ukraine, they did not report their geographical locations to people, and they were assigned local tasks. Most likely, this was Sevastopol and Simferopol. Emergency troops remain in Yysk, and did not take part in the operation. The barracks of the 76th Storm Troops Division on Margelova Street in Pskov is practically empty.

Some background on the 76th:

Originally established in 1939 as the 157th Rifle Brigade, division gained prominence during WWII as the 76th Guards Rifle Division fighting on the USSR's southern frontiers. From 1988-1992 the 76th Airborne Division, as it had become known, engaged in preventative security, averting the possible outbreak of war in former USSR territory. The division battled alongside Chechen paramilitary forces in the 1990s to wrest control of Chechen territories from Chechen separatists in the first and second Chechen wars. In 2006 the 76th Airborne Division became an Air Assault Division. During the 2008 Battle of Tskhinvali 76th Airborne Division assaults were instrumental in driving Georgian troops from South Ossetia in the Southern Caucasus.

The 76th Division comprises three regiments - the 104th, 234th and 237th, whose ranks are filled by full time professional servicemen, as opposed to conscripts. The division is equipped with the most sophisticated weaponry in modern warfare, such as the 'smart' precision guided munitions, guided missiles and 2S9 NONA self-propelled mortar vehicles.

Perhaps not surprising, it was the 76th that was also involved in Syria:

Given the worsening crisis in Syria, the Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper reported that the Russian army is apparently being prepared for a mission in Syria. Citing anonymous sources in the military leadership, the newspaper said that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the general staff to work out a plan for military operations outside Russia, including in Syria.


The units being prepared for an intervention are the 76th Division of airborne forces (an especially experienced unit of the Russian army), the 15th Army Division, as well as special forces from a brigade of the Black Sea fleet, which has a base in the Syrian port of Tartus.


The details of the operational plan are being prepared by the working parties of the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, to which most of the post-Soviet states belong, as well as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, to which China and Russia belong.

And the 76th appears to have been busy today: Ayder Muzhdabayev, deputy editor of Moskovsky Komsomolets, reported on Facebook 2 hours ago:

Urgent from Crimea


Armed divisions have seized the state television station (GTRK) of Crimea. All the staff have gathered together at the Crimean Tatar TV channel ATR, hundreds of others have come. They are waiting for the seizure. Several APCs have arrived. For now, they’ve passed by. They are also expected seizure of the building of the Crimean Tatar’s Medjlis [Assembly]. People are already going there. Everyone is afraid of what will happen tonight. There it is.


Friends, colleagues, take care of yourself! Don’t resist the military. God save Crimea!

It would appear Putin is not exactly deterred by Obama's harsh language.


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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:43 | 4491573 john39
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meanwhile, a hint at what was really going on with the "peaceful protestors" in Ukraine:

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:49 | 4491610 ArrestBobRubin
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Yo Vlad, check it out, I've Chosen a special target for your lads to take out early on...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:56 | 4491628 nope-1004
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Looks like Russia beat the US to the energy choke point.  Wonder how Obummer is going to pay for a war, let alone justify one after being humiliated repeatedly in the international arena?

Ever since Syria, US is lost.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:58 | 4491672 Der Wille Zur Macht
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Since Syria eh? I would've said much earlier than that.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:03 | 4491693 nope-1004
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Agreed.  But you can almost feel the international reaction to Obama since then as completely resentful, largely because of the NSA revelations, but also because Putin showed Obama his ass in Syria.


Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:23 | 4491789 johnQpublic
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we need to hear moar details right from the horses mouth

mr kerry?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:49 | 4491905 strannick
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It was considerate of Putin to hold off on the invasion til after market close...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:02 | 4491964 Urban Redneck
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If the bankers still have all their money, they have an entire weekend and all the more reason, to impress upon the shine-boy-in-chief, the true gravity of the situation.

Divide et Impera

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:37 | 4492173 mofreedom
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I'm pullin for Putin because I hate Soros and the Masons and the Shriners.

But I am glad they tore down the statues of Lenin o'there.

No IMF, No EU, No Soros!!!!!!

Edit:  I love America, but I hate my "loved ones".

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:08 | 4492383 Bonapartist
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If the EU gains control the statues of Lenin will be put back up.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 02:32 | 4492728 MeMadMax
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Let's face it. 

We have the worst butthole in history that is the prentender in chief...


This guy makes bush,nixon, and carter look like a bunch of amateurs...


Never have we had such a person that could fail on all aspects of being the president: foreign affairs, economically, socially, militarily, everything but playing golf...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 07:19 | 4492920 prains
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.......aaaaaaah, Cheney!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:44 | 4492127 LMAOLORI
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The horses mouth in this case is....

Pierre Omidyar co-funded Ukraine revolution groups with US government, documents show




“… Center UA received more than $500,000 in 2012, according to its annual report for that year, 54 percent of which came from Pact Inc., a project funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development. Nearly 36 percent came from Omidyar Network, a foundation established by eBay founder Pierre Omidyar and his wife. Other donors include the International Renaissance Foundation, whose key funder is billionaire George Soros, and National Endowment for Democracy, funded largely by the U.S. Congress.”

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:24 | 4491792 flacon
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I can't wait for the ES futures to open up on Sunday. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:20 | 4492404 Karl von Bahnhof
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Fuck the bloody stupid USA ...!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:27 | 4492530 Wahooo
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Libya was the tipping point. They fucked that up big time.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:02 | 4492207 bh2
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Since Korea.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:00 | 4491680 ACP
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I doubt Putin wants to start a major war, but wants to needle Obonghit. Reminds me of the "show of force" in Georgia.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:37 | 4491835 layman_please
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You are exactly right this is not in Putin's interest. He has been forced into using military in crimea as US lead coup has put him into this predicament. Everything implies it's going after US plans. Congrats, you really learned your lesson in Syria!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:40 | 4491867 ACP
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Hell, Assad treats people of different religions far better than the al-qaeda shit that the CIA is funding.

One note I'd like to make about Russia's invading force that makes me think Russia is not interesting in a long term occupation and massive violence, is that if you look at some of photos of the soldiers who have landed, many of their ammunition pouches that they are wearing on their tactical gear are empty, which tells me they weren't expecting much of a fight, if any.

Of course, that could be just an indication of "Russian discipline."

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:52 | 4491903 layman_please
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Not according to the article
" They are fully armed, with 5,000 rounds of ammunition per person "

My previous post was just implying that recent action is a victory for the US(opposed to nope-1004 claims) as Putin was left with no other choice. International community will point fingers at Russia as the aggressor

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:57 | 4491934 ACP
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Doesn't matter what articles know the media. You gotta look at the photos and make your own decision.

And yes, you're right it could be. Plus, whatever happens is going to be twisted by both sides anyway. I think Putin's invasiopn would be a good jab at Obonghit if he keeps it limited, like the Georgia invasion (pre-Obonghit). Anything more would be disastrous for him. He doesn't have the resources to go any farther, so he'll rely on the psychological effects and the eyes of the Socialist EU turning on spineless Obonghit for direction. Spineless Obonghit will make of fool of himself and even further erode world respect for him.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:04 | 4492496 layman_please
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well, the photos are also part of the media, though a bit more objective when not staged.


weak leader per se is not a bad thing. hell, it would be best if all of them would be irrelevant fools so people could mind their business, but...back to reality, most probably the US citizens will pay the price for the president's lack of spine. i feel for you.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:53 | 4492176 Cyrano de Bivouac
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True, the Christian community was never persecuted by the Assad regime but they(the Christians) have been victims of atrocities by rebel groups. I don't know who is the main arms suppliers for the rebel-Al Qaida groups but it's not Russia or Iran.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:13 | 4492390 Bonapartist
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Gee- I wonder where the rebels are getting their state-of-the-art anti-tank missiles- Uncle Sugar perhaps? liveleak has good vids of some of Assad's tanks getting lit up.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:21 | 4492524 FreedomGuy
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Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. That is why they were pissed when Obama-Kerry backed down and diverted after the hard talk.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:54 | 4492177 Cyrano de Bivouac
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True, the Christian community was never persecuted by the Assad regime but they(the Christians) have been victims of atrocities by rebel groups. I don't know who is the main arms suppliers for the rebel-Al Qaida groups but it's not Russia or Iran.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:52 | 4492474 FMR Bankster
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Saudi's and to a lesser degree other Gulf co-op countries. Small amounts from the US and others. The Saudi's are much more concerned about Iran than Al Qaida. So they have no problems funding Islamic groups, especially now that Bin Ladens gone.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 05:15 | 4492834 ThirdWorldDude
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"...especially now that Bin Laden's ghost is gone."

Fixed it for you. Bin Laden has been dead for a very long time, at least for the last 10 years. Watch former Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto's interview that cost her her life

In general you're right about Syrian terrorists' arms and logistics suppliers - it's maiinly the House of Saud, Qatar and Jordan out of the Gulf c(o)untries that pay for them. The Brits and USSA are paid with petrodollars to provide arms, ammunitions and training; Turkey poses as the pizza-boy, delivering shipments to Al-cia-duh. That's all old news...

What's new is the recently exposed corruption scandals in Turkey and Bandar "Bush" revelations. Erdogan is obviously the weakest link in the chain and it's why he's topped my list of future coups for a long time. Bandar is the one pulling all operational strings and he's surely aware that he must keep a low profile if he wants to avoid a burial at sea. (Mossad is Bandar's telecom provider, so I doubt he's already sleeping with the worms.)

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:43 | 4492680 LMAOLORI
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@Cyrano the rebels are being armed by the U.S. and we knew they were al-Qaeda - also the claims about chemical weapons being used by Assad are VERY questionable.


Congress secretly approves U.S. weapons flow to 'moderate' Syrian rebels


Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition


New analysis of rocket used in Syria chemical attack undercuts U.S. claims

Syrian rebels pledge loyalty to al-Qaeda
Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:36 | 4491857 disabledvet
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more like a "slow of force."

"sealing off Kiev for the Final Solution" meh?
It will be interesting to see if the President has any Harry Truman in him or not.

One thing that is different is that Berlin was completely surrounded by Russians...not merely "East Berlin."

Kinda strange that the Russians would build a Wall actually.
Was that to keep the Russians in?
Or the Westerners out?

In any case..."back in the Day" it (West Berlin) was quite the Party Palace so i've been told.
Much in the way of "degenerate art" so to speak.

What's next?
maybe a little "New York rock 'n rolla" just for fun too

Puti time!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:55 | 4491653 Independent
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No LOVE is to be had for the Crimean Tatars, the slavic people well remember their slavery at the hands of these monsters, just go halfway down on the wiki link and read The Fate of the Captives detailing how Russian and Ukrainian peasants were captured and treated.

Also the Tatars are not indigenous to Crimea, they are invaders



Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:14 | 4491749 agent default
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In my mind, I always associated the Tatars with Mongolia , or something else from the depths of Asia, like the Golden Horde.  I didn't know they had anything to do with Ukraine.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:14 | 4492393 Jack Burton
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Mongol Invasion took all of Asia and Europe from China to the borders of Hungry and Rumania. Russia lived under Mongol rule for many years. Tartars are the left overs of the broken up Mongol empire. Been in Crimea since the mongol invasion. They attacked Russia and Ukraine for centuries till Russia defeated them finally and took Crimea. History, that is it in a nutshell.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:52 | 4492423 Independent
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Quite true, Genghis Khan is the first one to have created 'Russia' and the concept of a transurasion nation that spanned the shores of the black sea to the pacific.  The Mongols never had sufficient numbers, more than 90 percent of their armies in the west were made up of local conquered turkic tribes, the tatars in Crimea definitely do not look Mongol/asian, as do turkic tribes in central asia.  They are a distinct people from the Mongols and the Turkic peoples of Central Russia

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:23 | 4492525 FreedomGuy
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The Cossacks are actually remnants. There have been several invasions across the steppes of Russia. The Huns and Mongols were the most famous.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:33 | 4491839 Headbanger
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+1000 for being astute about what really matters in such times like these.

It all reverts to tribalism for survival ultimately.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:39 | 4491870 disabledvet
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so what does that make the Americans if they decide to show up then?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:11 | 4492004 ArrestBobRubin
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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:39 | 4491872 Volkodav
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Head of Russian Central Bank, Elvira Nabullinia, is Tatar descent. Before the appointment to Russian Central Bank position, she was trusted aide of President Putin.

Many Tatar in trade and business. I am aware of several in Volga regions.

These may have been assimilated into Russia for longer time.

I don't know about Crimean Tatars in particular...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:59 | 4491945 Independent
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The Crimean Tatars are a breed apart, they have heavy Turkish influence, their khans was appointed by the Ottoman Sultan.  They are unlike the Tatars in Central Russia.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:39 | 4492118 Volkodav
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Thanks...I suspected  that, but was not sure enough to state it as fact..

I planned to ask details from friends in Saratov Volga who had told about many Tatar bankers there


Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:04 | 4491953 pot_and_kettle
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Unless I'm very mistaken, I believe tatars are turk-descended.


Strictly anecdotal: I knew a guy 25 years ago or so, identified himself as pure turk, but also as a Crimean tatar.  A little short fused but a very nice guy overall.  Probably didn't know he had bloodsoaked savages in his family tree 5 generations back...


Also, he tells me the tatars absolutely hated and feared the Cossacks ( generic for pretty much any Russian ).


Again, anecdotal and for what it's worth.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:24 | 4492264 Independent
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The Cossacks indeed brought fear to the Crimean Tatars, it was the actions of the Crimean Tatars that brought about the creation of the Cossacks as a militia to stop the plunder and killing.  The history in that area is quite rich.  The Cossacks were great sailors, not unlike their Viking ancestors 800 years before, they had a boat not unlike the viking ships, called a chaika which they used to dominate the Rivers in Ukraine and also the Black Sea coastal regions.  They even attacked and plundered suburbs of Istanbul/Costantinople forcing the Turkish Sultan to flee.


Sat, 03/01/2014 - 04:41 | 4492809 Aaronson.Jones....
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I god-damned love the history lessons I get on ZH (even if it is all potential troll-spin).

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:30 | 4492533 Wahooo
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Some like their sauce.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:58 | 4491668 Occident Mortal
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Nobody fears the US any more.

This is not 2002.

This is not a squinting George W. making loose threats aimed at everyone.

Ten years ago, when the POTUS came out and made demands / threats every government in the world held their breath.

Not any more.

Now POTUS can be safely ignored, US hands are tied with $17 trillion of debt and a congress that wouldn't be able to agree on military action if Pearl Harbour happened tomorrow.

All the US can do these days is deploy half a dozen CIA guys, snoop emails and launch some very low speed drones.

The ability of the US to hold territory is zero, nil, gone.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:04 | 4491699 nope-1004
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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:57 | 4491929 strannick
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The US military is far and away, in a class of its own. The quivering, fey hand holding the sword however...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:50 | 4492158 peter4805
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+1 for use of the word "fey".

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:13 | 4492230 Ident 7777 economy
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+1; For recognizing the word "fey".

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:19 | 4492399 Bonapartist
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How would they fare in a fairly even match? Goat herders in Afghanistan don't count.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:18 | 4493251 Citxmech
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The problem would be the assured escalation.  Putin would not allow US soldiers on former Soviet Bloc territory anymore than we'd allow China to land troops in Mexico.  

Everybody's right though that we're in a weakening global position right now.  Too many fronts with too many potential conflicts. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:58 | 4492576 Freddie
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The Zio-controlled defense contractors are shit.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:05 | 4491705 ACP
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Yes, and Bush followed through. Follow-through is necesary regardless of the final known or unknown outcome, regardless of whether the initial decision was right or wrong. Follow-though breeds respect, Obonghit's lack of spine does not.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:18 | 4491763 kliguy38
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yeh right........."whether the initial decision was right or wrong"......"follow through breeds respect".....hehhehehe......GW was a fochin PUTZ.....and Obongo is just and operative that takes orders like GW did......Obongo KNOWS he's destroyed the constitution.....GW couldn't even read.......heheheheheheeh......go ahead and perpetuate the right left pardigm or the Demidumb vs NWO crook is better than yours.........hehehehhehe.....dumbazz

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:26 | 4491811 ACP
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Wow, you sure put me in my place with your wide-ranging knwoledge of the world.

Now go back to your basement and keep playing World of Warcraft, that your mommy paid for.


Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:33 | 4491843 nope-1004
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It's Friday, and Kilguy hit happy hour.


Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:36 | 4491854 kliguy38
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i wish.....hehehhehe

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:35 | 4491848 kliguy38
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yeh right putz......if this were GW you'd be cheerin' it........that's how the NWO shill obongo can do what he's doin' cheered Iraq and you cheered you're suddenly enlightened......hehehehe

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:47 | 4491874 Headbanger
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Would you jjust stop the retarded "heheheheh" shit and you might make some fucking sense instead of being a high school douche bag still living in mommy's basement like you are?

You got that you fucking douchetard??

Now I'm confused as to who is greening me.

Oh well, all on a day's trolling.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:35 | 4491849 Headbanger
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Maybe so but trouble is.. Truth is often stranger than fiction.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 00:04 | 4492581 Freddie
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9-11 and what probably really happened.  I agree Bush followed up but teh Bushes, Clintons and Obama work for the same people.


Sat, 03/01/2014 - 03:06 | 4492743 TahoeBilly2012
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Vladimir Putin can ski, I mean better than fucking Schwartzneagger, trust me, we train troops in Squaw. 

John Kerry, Obama, Bush, Clinton...these clowns can't even get a women off with their tongues, these are home grown faggots, hired by Jews, who think they are cool....for some fucking reason.

America will rise again, and in peace with Russia, when the Jew bankers are dead.



Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:11 | 4491733 thamnosma
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The fatal error of the neo-cons was their hubris about "nation building".   We are now no longer safe.   While in retrospect neither Afghanistan nor Iraq should have happened, at least once the target was eliminated, the US should have left.   There would still be some fear of what the US could do.   No longer. 

Since then, Obama has sealed our fate.  We are done.  You are so on target -- our ability to hold territory is gone.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:15 | 4491764 ArrestBobRubin
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The fatal error of the neocons was ever being born. Or is it hatched- - that's a Reptile thing, right?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:40 | 4492305 DeadFred
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Neocon symbionts are first hatched then implanted. It's not fair that they get to celebrate two 'birthdays' while the rest of us only get one

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:20 | 4491773 john39
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certain conspiracy analysts have said that part of the NWO plan has been to fatally weaken the United States from the inside, such to remove the threat the American people might wise up and figure out what is really going on... and try to stop it.  Looking at world events play out today, hard to deny that this may be true.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:22 | 4491778 rubiconsolutions
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Where's Boris? We need to hear from Boris on this matter. He's been suspiciously silent.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:29 | 4491828 Volkodav
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Cleaning his Mosin-Nagant and kissing family goodbye...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:51 | 4491912 RafterManFMJ
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... and cementing pasties on all three of his nipples.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 07:45 | 4492929 prains
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....and lining his jock strap with fur

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 09:00 | 4492995 Agstacker
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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:08 | 4491863 agent default
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The ability to hold territory will soon be lost within the US itself.  I expect separatist movements in the mainland US within the decade.  Breakup of the Union within the same time frame.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:00 | 4492196 Shad_ow
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The error was the target was not elimnated.  We played politically correct and appeased the media.  War is hell and should be fought with abandon, swift and without mercy or apology or not fought at all.


Also the meme that the spoils belong to the victor has been lost.  If we must go to war let it be done fiercely with total victory.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:32 | 4492538 Wahooo
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From "making the world safe for democracy" to nation building - 100 years under the Fed. Funny how that all ties together.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:11 | 4491739 Seize Mars
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Yes, I agree. Politically speaking, Ron Paul called this a long time back. He said that the Clinton-era closure of domestic US bases and spreading them all over the fucking world would drastically weaken the tactical strength of the US.

Once again Ron Paul was right.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:20 | 4491775 RevRex
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Just wondering, was Ron Pau also right when he recently said that voting for a liberarian candidate was stupd?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:50 | 4491909 Seize Mars
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What are you, a "clever wordsmith?" There are too many sarcastic, venom spitting argument-starters here on ZH as it is.

Hey, I've got an idea, let's say you fuck yourself.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:56 | 4491925 RevRex
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What a cowarly reply....and no answer to the question.... Typical of people who are incapable of logic and reason, who just regurgitate garbage.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:37 | 4492111 Seize Mars
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He said some candidate was a bad candidate.

And by the way, of course I'm a coward, this is the internet.


Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:17 | 4492030 ArrestBobRubin
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Wait... after this Kenyan, a Liberian is up next?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:38 | 4492115 Seize Mars
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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:52 | 4492341 stormsailor
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a librarian?  she could go on national tv as president and tell them to "sh--------------ish" keep quiet.  much more effective than barry davis.


the man is the weakest president i've ever seen, dogs piss on his leg.  


saturday night live couldn't come up with a satire as funny yet pathetic as barry davis as president. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:24 | 4491769 AL_SWEARENGEN

I would not underestimate the US's military power.  Though lately that power has been wielded by men of poor character.  Who lack the morality needed to justly govern.  A proverb says When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.  HOWEVER do not think the united states does not have weaponry and technology that in reality probably far surpasses what we believe them to possess.  The military industrial complex has been drunk on their power for decades.  And a reserve currency printing press backing their play.   I would not want to be on the receiving end of that unknown wrath if events turn hot.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:44 | 4491890 Occident Mortal
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Come on.

US drones have a top speed of 150mph.

Put the US MQ-1 Predator up against a Russian S-300 SAM and see what happens.

Put the NSA hackers to work on disrupting a 2,000km long 48" pipe full of crude oil. How do you put a root kit on a big piece of pipe? Or infantry soldiers using HAM radio's? Or diesel APC's?

Send in the CIA covert ops, put them up against 150,000 Russian infantry.

The US has nothing. The US lacks the political capital to use any of its real military power which is basically the carriers and the 101st.

All the fancy high tech shit is basically worthless in a conventional war.

The only way to hold ground is with boots.

And if the S-300 means you can't fly the boots in, then your fucked. The new Russian S-400 has a range of 400km, from Sevestapol that covers the entire Black Sea.

Nobody can stop Russia taking Crimea or the whole Ukraine if they wish. Nobody can even get close to the place.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:45 | 4492133 post turtle saver
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oh you know... SCADA... and of course other approaches...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 02:06 | 4492715 Rock On Roger
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Bullshit, you can't blow up a pipeline with supervised control and data acquisition unless it is hooked up to a bomb.


Stack On

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:45 | 4491895 agent default
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You  have to understand that US military power has already been way over rated.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:01 | 4492201 Shad_ow
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Not really, just hampered with pansies who want to win hearts and minds rather than battles.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:33 | 4492283 Rylie
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When was the last war the US won?

Iraq? Afiganistan? nam? 

Sorry they cant even win against really poor countries with no weaponery.

They are not hampered they are over rated.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:17 | 4492662 Freddie
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It does not matter. The country is totally corrupt and compromised.  If Rand Paul became President and the Repubs took the House and Senate it would not matter.   Unless you vote out all the NWO RINOs like McCain then nothing will change and even if you did it probably will not change.   Those RINOs will totally protect the Dems and the NWO.  The USA was lost in four  steps all banksters/NWO/Zio.  The tactics were also used against Europeans (World Wars to kill off the best and bravest).

1. Civil War. Both sides backed by European bankster familes.  1.1 million of the best and bravest men killed and Federal power over everything.  No states rights.

2. Federal Reserve and IRS - 1913.  The usual suspects.

3. Murder of JFK.  LBJ's was the Senator who handed out all the defense contracts. He handed one out to one company run by an AIPAC supporter who also supports heavily Obama and John McCain.  This happened just before the muder of JFK.   MIC now has absolute power and then jump off with Vietnam.

4. 9/11 crime and massive theft followed by more financial thefts with TARP then wars and endless printing.  Trillions stolen not to mention Fort Knox that was probably looted during Clinton.

So the American public pretty much know it is totally ***ked and the elites and their Pentagon lackeys ALWAYS sell out the soldiers.  They have been doing it since at least The Civil War.


Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:35 | 4492543 Wahooo
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Yep. When's the last time those fuckers won a war for us? 70 years or so.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:23 | 4491782 agent default
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The US has lost what mattered the most: Moral authority.  The US government in the past decade has behaved both externally and domestically as an authoritative arrogant coward bully, with so sense of respect for others and certainly not a shred of self respect.  Couple that with a sense of exceptionalism and arrogance from the political establishment and also from the populace and you have a recipe for disaster.  The US will get bitchslaped, and the slap will be of Roman Empire proportions.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:49 | 4491907 disabledvet
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yeah...beatin' up on Ukraine shows what a man truly is all right.

Kind of a little over the top on the response don't ya think?
I mean...a full scale invasion in necessary?
Clyde "the Glide." Even then he was going bald...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:17 | 4492029 agent default
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No, it was not over the top.  And believe me, by Russian standards that was soft intervention, the Russian way is mass warfare, not capturing everything they want without firing a shot.  If you don't like the outcome, take it up with the idiots in the provisional Ukraine government, who  are also a bunch of cowards since they are not even putting up token resistance against the "invasion" as they call it. But apart from that little fact,  "Power comes from a barrel of a gun", their words. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:23 | 4492066 JuliaS
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From Robert Newman's comedy sketch on the US involvement in Iraq:

Venezuela (talking to the US): that fight took it out of you companiero! Ten years ago, you break this guy, you don’t even break sweat. This time, I got to tell you. I don’t think you could have taken him at all if it was not for the help of your little friend (pointing at Britain).

US: Shut up, shut up! I got this neighbourhood! I’m in control! At which point a car driven by North Korea speeds past shouting “death to America”.

Venezuela: You were saying companierio, about control?  I could not hear because someone was shouting “death to America” very loudly in my ear. Would you care to repeat for me?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:51 | 4491622 Rafferty
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That's enough for  me.  Whoever McStain, the neocons, the EU and Israelis are for I'm against. Go Vlad!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:19 | 4491770 ArrestBobRubin
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Way to total it up fast bro. That's about it.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:19 | 4491771 Zadig
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It's a simple and reliable moral compass.  Whatever the majority of war criminals wants to do must be wrong.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:16 | 4492241 Loose Caboose
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@Raferty - But, my enemy's enemy does not = friend, in this case.  Putin is a thug.  Everyone has interfered in this clusterfuck called Ukraine - not just the west.  Ukraine is caught between the banksters and the thugs.  Ukraine has become the battleground in a war with no possible victory in any outcome.  She is overrun with corruption and will be split in two; then she will be absorbed by opposite sides of a struggle between greed and hubris.  Flags mean nothing, nations mean nothing.  The globalists will get their way, either way - EU or EAU - all part of the same plan.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:00 | 4491683 kchrisc
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Subtext to the current events in the Ukraine: "A pipeline runs through it; and so should one in Syria."

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:08 | 4491694 john39
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I think Putin has drawn a red line in both countries.  but unlike obamao, Putin does not talk about red lines.  he acts.    

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:13 | 4491738 TahoeBilly2012
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All hail the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, George Soros and Brad Pitt, we can win this....just a FEW MOAR LIES and DOW 20,000...we can win.  We can fix it!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:41 | 4492445 tempo
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Obama can text and twitter faster than Putin. That's all that matters!!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:44 | 4491578 CrashisOptimistic
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My God, the poor Japanese.  China is going to see this and take the measure of Obama.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:54 | 4491641 camaro68ss
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you can say poor south Korea as well

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:15 | 4492023 Urban Redneck
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That black swan of the north is no longer black.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 22:17 | 4492397 The Gooch
Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:29 | 4493287 Citxmech
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I wouldn't be sleeping too well if I lived in Taiwan either. . . 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:59 | 4491671 Overfed
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I'm interested to see if Russia doesn't directly intervene in Syria now to restore order for their ally. They know that the only thing that will happen is a 30 second nothing of a speech from O'bomb-a. I hope they do. Just wipe Al-CIA-duh right out of there.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:07 | 4491713 graneros
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Good observation.  Certainly would ratchet things up a bit more.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:22 | 4492062 Urban Redneck
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Focus on the objective.
Achieve the objective.
Move on to the next objective.
Rinse, Repeat

Don't distract yourself,
Don't let your adversaries distract you,

Don't divide your forces.

Doesn't mean he can't (or shouldn't) park a couple cruisers and surface an SSBN in Tartus, as a big old DO NOT ENTER sign, to be taken far more seriously than anyone would have considered last week.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:21 | 4491777 ArrestBobRubin
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Reggie reports that he's got 3 swinging. Oddly, much like the average Chinese.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:44 | 4491579 negative rates
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Ah, the full throat approach.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:46 | 4491593 Sashko89
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I'll be so happy if we are one country again.:)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:11 | 4491734 salvadordaly
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You can say that again!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:46 | 4491595 Sashko89
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I'll be so happy if we are one country again.:)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:47 | 4491598 RaceToTheBottom
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Those were probably the skilled snipers that were operating within the rest of Ukraine. 

DRs were talking about the shots:  Head shots, Neck shots and Heart shots.  All professionally done so there was nothing for the DRs to save.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:57 | 4491662 Sashko89
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Those snipers shot from the back if u analyze the video u cam see the bullet hit a tree Fr behind the protestors.. There were no berkyt there it was the Right Sector shooting at its own people to create media attention for their maidan. Yes fascists will kill their own for the cause.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:55 | 4491915 Phuk u
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Dear Sashko

The first piece of action is of the snipers and Berkut firing downwards towards the Maydan Nezaleznist (Independance Square)

The next piece is at the receiving end facing the Berkut and the snipers.

Now I cannot confirm that these two videos were 'shot' on the same day at the same time (no pun intended)

but one can make up his own mind. A colleague of mine looked at some of the lighting posts and had seen

three bullet holes in one post, two from each side and one from the front but none from the back Sasha, thats your

post riddled.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:12 | 4491991 jesusonline
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And now take a closer look at the 2nd clip you linked.

A group of people moving from 0:42. At 0:46 a shot is fired and there's the hit spot right there on the tree. And the people are looking BACK to their right. They look back to the direction from which the shot was fired and where it hit the tree. The tree saved one of their lives - or maybe not, because people in that group were shot at again further on. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:46 | 4491599 The_Prisoner
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Lev Scholsberg? Not an irish name, I suppose.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:47 | 4491604 Black Forest
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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:18 | 4491768 MeMongo
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Yea prisoner, my first thought was Amish;-)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:52 | 4491602 ArrestBobRubin
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Shockski's to quelch the Nazi's? History repeats... or something

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:48 | 4491606 ebworthen
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This is good.

Where is that picture of Obama sitting with Putin?

Obama and NATO and the West aren't going to do a thing but talk.

You know what?  The "financial crisis" has decimated the legitimacy of the West.

The Constitution, Democracy - have been tainted by allowing banks and banksters to rob citizens in open daylight, buy the politicians, judges, and military, and create an oligarchy more perverse and disingenuous than the obvious ones in the East.

We look like fools calling for "democracy" and "freedom" when we have allowed the mammon lusting money changers to debase every right we pretend we have but have lost to them.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:52 | 4491629 The Gooch
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"I'll have more flexibility after the election"

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:06 | 4491706 Kirk2NCC1701
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To bend WHICH way?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:52 | 4491633 Rafferty
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+100 green arrows.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:04 | 4491696 ArrestBobRubin
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Nice. Speaking of, I love the series Arrow, very well done for the genre, and for CW. And man I want to do bad things with Felicity.

So funny, in the show they make her "Jewish". And how was that important to the story?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:07 | 4491719 saints51
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WTF are you talking about?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:23 | 4491786 ArrestBobRubin
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You'd have to be a Green Arrow fan to get it, remain calm

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:37 | 4491864 saints51
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I just did a little start paging and found it to be a tv show. I canned cable a long time ago. In other bad.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:55 | 4491654 holmes
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Financial crisis or not. USA has no business intefering in the Ukraine. Let the EU, Russia and the citizens of the Ukriane deal with this problem.

Ron Paul: "Leave Ukraine Alone"
Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:21 | 4491711 layman_please
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"Obama and NATO and the West aren't going to do a thing but talk."

What happened to the "it's a coup by the US(cia)"?
Whole situation is playing out exactly as it was supposed to. We won't have war tomorrow but one has to be blind not to detect the buildup. All this is blatant due to western "all talk" forces machinations.

Of course puppet in chief has no idea what the hell is going on, it's above his paygrade.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:32 | 4492094 Urban Redneck
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The prep for the second round in Iraq was well over a year in case anyone was distracted by MSM, and it's not like the same drill hadn't been performed & practiced already. And even with all that time to get all the ducks in a row, it was still cluster-fuck of a deployment (ref 101st & Turkey).

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:17 | 4492246 Savyindallas
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When will Putin Liberate US from our oppression? Does he care about us, too? 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:48 | 4491609 spellbound
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All you guys who are hoping that this means the start of WW3, you do realize that the implications go beyond just your long gold going up and your puts going to the moon. Be careful what you wish for. 


Could this be the beginning of the Agenda 21 depopulation process being put in motion?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:51 | 4491625 cougar_w
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It is nothing more than the Secure the Gas Pipelines For Great Justice gambit being put in motion.

From here forward, it's all about energy. Nothing else is going to matter for the next 30 years.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:55 | 4491645 ArrestBobRubin
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Sorry to argue Coug, but a gallon of potable water is already more expensive than gasoline in many places and will only be going up from here. So add fresh water and I'm in.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:06 | 4491708 Flakmeister
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We agree that energy is always a key factor...

But explain to me just who is securing the pipelines and for exactly what purpose...

The pipelines are still pointing in the same direction and Gazprom don't get paid unless it gets delivered...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:16 | 4491760 cougar_w
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Europe is a cold place in winter. People without heat will die in large numbers and their governments will topple.

The pipelines through Ukraine are set to become a tool of war. As such you secure them for the same reason you secure a hill on a battlefield, or a strategic pass. You then hold your position until the enemy sues for beneificial terms.

As for income, Russia can just take what it wants if it comes down to it. That's been the deal in that area of the world for 800 years.

I don't think money has a lot to do with things, going forward.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:22 | 4491781 john39
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but... but... global warming!  and, solar power can heat homes across nothern europe.  our leaders said so.  they promised.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:32 | 4491837 Flakmeister
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But does not Russia already control the pipelines for all intents and purposes? That is the gist of my point.

Surely it can't be about the relatively piddling transfer payments given the risk-reward. Putin is many things, but stupid is not on that list...

Russia is just as captive to flow of payments eastward as the Europeans are to gas flows westward. Look at the finances and the level of hard currency reserves Russia has...

And unless Putin wants to drop ~100 billion dollars and 10 yeras in CAPEX to develop a similar capacity pipeline network headed to Chindia he is pretty limited in his options...

It is my opinion is that Putin is just another kleptocrat in the mould of Mobuto Sese Seko, hell they even both have a thing for leopard skins....

A very dangerous man nonetheless...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:00 | 4491910 superflex
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I agree that even if the pipelines are seized, most of their production comes from inside Russia so Vlad controls the valve. An empty pipeline is no good to anyone.

Would he do that?  I think for a short term, he might consider that option, but the spice will flow.



Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:31 | 4492681 Flakmeister
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Yes, the spice will flow...

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