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Russian Military Choppers Arrive In The Crimea

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Naval blockade, check. APCs and military vehicles rolling into the Crimean, check. Mysterious gunmen taking over the parliament and airports, check. And now: Russian military helicopters, which as the clip below shows were sighted on their way to Belbek airport in Sevastopol.

 

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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:33 | 4488674 Arius
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russian choppers in crimea?

 

This was suppose to be a RED LINE ... WTF???

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:36 | 4488704 BandGap
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No shit, they waited for the weekend.

Ivan don't surf.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:37 | 4488716 ApollyonDestroy
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I really hope the West tries to force Putin back out. That will end so wonderfully

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:43 | 4488755 Maximilien Robe...
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I heard the US is trying a new technique in global diplomatic relations called "direct message" on twitter or something.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:46 | 4488771 PR Guy
Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:50 | 4488796 Manthong
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I really hope the West tries to force Putin back out.”

Nah, Barry will be too busy listening to the new Beyonce BJ hit with his daughters.

BEYONCE SHOCK: 'He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown'...

OBAMA FLASHBACK: Beyonce perfect role model for my daughters...

..or maybe he will be in the basement “Travon Memorial Pistol Range”.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:07 | 4488920 Hephaestus
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Is is possible the US govt is so inept that they forgot to cancel the Ukraine "revolution" even after Snowden informed the world of what the US govt is up too? I mean come on US ambassadors are on tape talking about who they will put in power in Ukraine. Kinda makes spin control difficult doesnt it?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:15 | 4488970 Whoa Dammit
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They probably figured that the American people would not notice, nor care. Those that did notice would either be sniveling like Beavis and Butthead "She said fuck!" or reminiscing wistfully "Ukraine? Wasn't that in some Beatles song I used to like?"

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:32 | 4489060 Joe Davola
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Wolverines!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:29 | 4489379 Freddie
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Americans are easily brainwashed by TV and Hollywood.  Drooling idiots.  I would bet 70% of ZH posters probably still watch their crap. You watch it - you support your serfdom.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:47 | 4492697 Independent
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Interesting article outlining polish involvement...Have to give some credit to the CIA for being able to organize this and pull it off...

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/01/ukra-m01.html

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:25 | 4489018 PR Guy
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It should be this link not the one above (military manoeuvres in Ukraine)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DZP3fYurqU

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:15 | 4488966 Debugas
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noo, this time it was straight into your FaceBook

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:12 | 4489666 TBT or not TBT
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Social media was a huge force multiplier for Barry winning elections, so they're giving that a whirl in foreign relations, throwing in "meme" viral clips like the Fuck the EU thing.   Brilliant!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:44 | 4488761 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Remember that naval base is still Russian. It is legally theirs' through a lease from the Ukraine. Expect them to defend it at all costs.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:50 | 4488805 Martel
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The smartest thing Ukrainians could do is to give the Crimea to Russians. They received it during the Soviet times in 1954, and even then it was not ethnically Ukrainian, but Russian. Holding on to it only prolonges the crisis, and Crimea will never be a productive part of Ukraine. By giving it away, Ukrainians would also get rid of lots of Russians within their borders.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:54 | 4488838 Buckaroo Banzai
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Not a bad idea, but i read somewhere that most of the Russian ethnics there seem to prefer to be part of the Ukraine.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:59 | 4488869 Martel
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They should be kicked out nevertheless.

Of course, this is not the way we do things in Europe. For one, there will be silly nationalistic, empty rethoric, such as "Crimea is the heart of Ukraine" (re: the situation in Serbia vs. Kosovo, Georgian republic vs. Abkhasia and South Ossetia). Also, politicians, bureaucrats and do-gooders want to establish "multi-ethnic" societies, which would validate their dream that a fox an a hen can live side by side in peace. Hence, nation's borders can't be changed even when there would be every reason to do it.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:04 | 4488904 Zwelgje
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Calling for ethnic cleansing. How civilised.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:26 | 4488993 Martel
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Since when ethnic cleansing has meant giving freedom to the minorities? In this case, the Crimean Russians would be free to join Russia, or establish an independent country, if that's what they want. Nobody would be killed. The way things stand now, Crimea as a part of Ukraine will be a constant source of tension and maybe violence. Just look at those helicopters, Russia is not going to let Crimea go without violence. Better Ukrainians yield now, as it would also serve their interests.

Edit: by "kicking out" I meant changing borders. This would enable Ukraine to get rid of lots of Russians peacefully.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 15:08 | 4490264 Element
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More to the point, Russia is not going to allow an EU-Washington NATO puppet on their doorstep, any more than Russia and China would allow the 'UN' (USSA) to over run North Korea, to set up a US-Western oriented puppet back then, right on their respective border.

If Ukraine proper wants to avoid a very painful destructive conflict developing it needs to remain scrupulously non-aligned at this point, and clearly declare this to be the case.

Problem is you get no honey that way, and they like honey.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:48 | 4489135 Byte Me
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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:31 | 4489391 Freddie
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Open borders in the USSA and EUSSR - ethnic cleansing.  The NWO loves ethnic cleansing.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:32 | 4489408 Dugald
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Cannons to the left of them, cannons to the right of them and Russians up the Wazzoo....rings a bell...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:28 | 4489037 Urban Redneck
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In order for "Ukraine" to cede Crimea to the Russians, the Russians would have to recognize the current regime's right to cede Crimea in the first place.

If anyone in Kiev or DC had an IQ above room temperature they would have been trying to cede Crimea all week... but since this is so entry-level, it would lay bear Russian intentions, and the Russians' minimum settlement terms, and they might not be willing to settle for just Crimea.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:53 | 4489147 Martel
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they might not be willing to settle for just Crimea.

I'm sure Russia will negotiate, if there's something for them. Moreover the EU and the U.S. will recognize the current government, so the Russian narrative will be increasingly on a shaky ground. Ukrainians should use 1954 borders as a point for negotiations, and maybe demand some economic help in exchange for ceding Crimea. I don't think the border agreement would be easy, if Russia wants to push for more territory. No agreement would mean, Crimea stays within Ukraine, and Ukraine does not renew the agreement on the Russian naval base.

If things get violent, Ukraine could blast gas pipelines passing through its territory. That would hit the Russian economy hard, possibly bring down Putin.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:32 | 4489407 Freddie
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BS.  Russia or Gazprom has pipelines that can totally bypass the Ukraine.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:35 | 4489777 Martel
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About 55% of Russian gas to Europe goes via Ukraine, so there is a chokepoint there. Blowing up Nord Stream as well, would cut 75% of Russian gas exports. Shutting the two lines in Belarussia, would bring this percentage to 91%. Russia's economy is completely dependent on export of oil & gas.

Incidentally, in the coming decade, Gazprom will be hit hard by fracking in Ukraine, Romania and Poland.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:15 | 4489985 Flakmeister
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Good insight, but I will differ with you on the potential impact of fracking...

You are aware that Exxon wallked away from Poland in 2012? From the WSJ (among others)

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230383640457747453250...

Admittedly, this could be related to threat of "reassessment"  over Exxons role in the Sakhalin Island development...

Time will tell, but it remains to be seen if the  big multinationals are nimble enough to play the small scale fracking game.

We do know that there will be no environmental oversight though... 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 17:06 | 4490883 Martel
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Shell & Chevron have a 20 billion dollar deal over fracking in Ukraine. I'm aware the Polish fracking seems not to go anywhere. Romania has some resources, and LNG terminals are built all over Europe.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:23 | 4491410 Flakmeister
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Putting aside the obvious possible source of delays, they are still a long ways away from forecasted production levels... In fact they haven't even demonstrated economic viablility yet...

We will see, but it will not be for a number of years...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:52 | 4492704 Independent
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Do not forget that Europeans dont like fracking much, they like their water clean unlike the USA, Chevron drilling plans were shelved temporarily by demonstrations in Romania.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:20 | 4490004 newworldorder
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RE; Martel

I am not advocating for Russia here, but - Under these circumstances any country would see this as an act of war. These things alone have the potential for pulling NATO into the Russsia confrontation. NATO is neither prepared or willing to engage the Russians in Ukraine.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 15:24 | 4490104 Flakmeister
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NATO may not be willing, but they are certainly as well prepared if not better than Vlad. In any event, I do not see NATO directly intervening in the Ukraine at any time in the forseeable future...

As for an act of war, it all depends on who is blowing up the pipelines, eh?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 17:08 | 4490859 Martel
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These things alone have the potential for pulling NATO into the Russsia confrontation.

NATO can't be pulled into the conflict, as European NATO countries are not militarily ready for anything. Poland, France and the U.K. may be exceptions. European NATO countries have been enjoying 'peace dividend' for 20 years or so. Just a few months ago, the Netherlands sold their last Leopard tanks to Finland (not a member). Politically the West Europan countries, Germany especially, don't want any conflit whatsoever with Russia. So, basically Russia has free reign in Ukraine, just as they had in Georgia in 2008. 

That's why my proposal was for Ukraine to cede Crimea. Also they could declare they're not going to apply for a NATO membership for the next, say, 20 years. But where they should not yield, is orientation towards Europe. They should have EU membership as a goal. The EU could start creating economical an cultural ties to Ukraine immediately, as a part of a crisis package. Within a few decades, Ukraine could be transformed into at least somewhat livable place. If they stay in the Russian economic sphere, there's not much hope, they'll be like Belarus: poor, backward, forgotten.

Regarding blowing up pipelines, I'm NOT advocating Ukrainians do that right now. But if an outright war should take place, disrupting the flow of natgas is an option. Ukraine can't beat Russia militarily, but they can ensure Russia pays a heavy price for a military aggression.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:37 | 4489447 Dugald
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would lay bear Russian intentions.....

A deliberate mistake....right?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:17 | 4489995 Flakmeister
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Probabaly Freudian...

But it does work no matter what the reason...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:50 | 4491616 Urban Redneck
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Because I NEVER...

play with homonyms, homographs, homophones, or homos (in either a belligerent or self deprecating manner), but yet only seem to play with heteronyms by accident.

Perhaps I'm not as happily married as I think I am... Or perhaps I just like running rings around Cory Booker... Or perhaps as a US expat in Europe I feel some overwhelming social pressure conform to some ludicrous stereotype that we're a bunch of socialist, gay, tree-hugging, idiots. Damn, now I need both a cigar and a trip to Dr. Freud's couch.

You've been reading this site three years and you just caught that,
or was that one just too corny to pass up?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:26 | 4490035 sessinpo
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You have been misinformed. That part of Ukraine is very much in favor of Russia. The Russian language is from there.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:16 | 4489688 skifff
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I'm very curious to know who, in your view, are ethnical ukranians?;-) And what is Ukraine ??? Why even 100 years ago no one heard of them?

And why does any one have to give s.t. to s.o. instead of it's population making decision what do they want with their land? Independance,be part of Ukraine or part of RF?

Isn't that called democracy? Or mabe that happened in Kiev is democracy?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:33 | 4490091 sessinpo
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Democracy is nothing be mob rules (either by vote or force).

To show an extreme example, consider the Jonestown mass suicide cult. Those people CHOSE to kill themselves. Democracy isn't perfect.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:30 | 4490729 skifff
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Not perfect? How convinient, ;-)))

we're seen consequences... one have to pay for it's actions, it's called responsobility

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:55 | 4488846 economisery
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Barking dogs don't bite.

Which is why Kerry and Merkel have spent so much time barking.

They're too toothless to bite.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:47 | 4488777 Urban Redneck
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I think Ivan actually does surf...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:48 | 4488778 Urban Redneck
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Good thing there isn't a "big red button" on my computer...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:15 | 4488969 Spumoni
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Waddaya talkin'? Those are sightseeing tourist helicopters! Don't you know Crimea is a tourist destination? Geez!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:39 | 4488724 semperfidelis
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I think its a false flag. I don`t think Putin is stupid to start a war. He has all the time in the world to asses the situation and mount a counteroffensive.

Russia has signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. It`s a international treaty signed on Feburary, 5, 1994, in Budapest between Ukraine, USA, Russia, and Great Britain concerning nuclear disarmament of Ukraine and security assurances of her independence. According to the treaty Ukraine has abandoned her nuclear arsenal to Russia, while Russia, USA, and Great Britain have promised (1) to respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within her borders; (2) to protect Ukraine from outer aggression and not to conduct aggression toward Ukraine; (3) not to put economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence her politics; (4) not to use nuclear arms against Ukraine.

Before signing the agreement Ukraine was the worlds 3rd nuclear power (LOL).

Merkel is given the red carpet in London (LOL)

Obama is trying to get Russia into a war...

Look after the Bundesbank gold and all those Comex hanging deliveries.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:42 | 4488749 Headbanger
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But the USA and UK didn't "respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty" with our meddling there so Putin figures he's not bound by that treaty now.

Way to go Obozo! 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:51 | 4488820 Zwelgje
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Semperfi displayed the latest State Dept. shtick. This meme is appearing all over the place. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:14 | 4488961 superflex
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But with such a patriotic name and a storied tenure of 3 weeks, 3 days, there's no way he running psy ops here on the hedge.

No way!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:23 | 4489335 Flakmeister
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Sort of like Johnny CockintheAss....

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:27 | 4489359 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Now we know why Flakmeister is so butthurt.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:28 | 4489759 Flakmeister
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Are you projecting again?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:17 | 4490446 Element
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Flak's a delight, I love how he argues against hydrocarbon use and massively attacked "King-coal" in 2012, pretending it was dead, despite the fact it'll be a baseline fuel and synthetics raw material of choice for probably the next couple of centuries. Hates the shit out of hydrocarbons per-sec, purportedly because they produce evil-doomsday-CO2 once oxidised. It's a catastrophe donchaknow?!!

Yet he aspires to create this air of dispassionate objective credence and authoritative rectitude, with regard to all things hydrocarbon-ish, whenever the poor buggars are discussed. :D

I just love that, and no one even notices either, because he's much too subtle, swift and tricky with it. :D

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/28/inconvenient-study-arctic-was-warm...

Calamity-Jane! Run Forrest!

 

And now he's being hard-pressed by Johnny CockintheAss? ... well, I'm not really all that surprised ... jus sayin

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:20 | 4490650 Miffed Microbio...
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Element, I've often wondered where Flak's endpoint would truly emerge. Her incessant view of carbon taxation as a fix for our ills really doesn't fully address the whole problem. If I were to hypothesize I would guess it would end up as an individual tax. As carbon excreting beings we are ripe for the plucking. I have never read any hard numbers but some have estimated the average production of carbon exhaled as co2 is approximately 1 kg/ day/person. Depending on the amount of sugar a person consumes this would increase. Therefore a sugar tax is complementary to a carbon tax. I may be taking liberties here but I believe even she would be reticent recommending an exhalation cessation policy...well, except for a certain key individuals.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:27 | 4490708 Flakmeister
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You two were made for each other...

I'll gonna grab some popcorn, sit back, and have a few laughs and play the fly on the wall...

You are off to great start by the way...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:48 | 4490802 Element
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Ha johno gutted and skinned you alive in that other thread, you didn't even have the intestinal wherewithal to take it gracefully, had to keep pretending you made some sort of point with all your hystery. lols

But the shambolic Richard Dawkins impersonations are such a scream, I just love that shit, it speaks right to the heart of stylized figleaf covering deep insecurity. :D

And not even intending to be mean there flak, it's just funny as hell to watch. :D

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 17:37 | 4490925 Element
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Scientists must not think out of bounds miffed, it so annoys the Pope.

See the link above, the whole topic is moot, the long-term natural variability is observably far higher than the alleged hockystick 'signal'. The whole AGW charade is dying of terminal foot-'n-mouth at every turn now. And anyone trying to push the universal carbon-tax concept, on the basis of 'science', ha! They have bigger issues to address. I personally love what flak does, he's a sort of exemplar for why people all over the world finally woke-up to the AGW rope-a-dope routine.

More powwa to the Mann!

http://i.snag.gy/BztF1.jpg

http://climate4you.com/images/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%...

Incidentally, within the second graph within that last link, notice how the red CO2 line actually FALLS, between 11k and 7.5k years before present.

That's natural variability as well, earth actually regulates the atmospheric CO2 levels, all by itself, has been doing that for quite a few eons now, but geologists has known that for, oh, only about most of the past century.

Notice also how the temperature ROSE sharply, fluctuated, then remained at much higher levels than now, even as CO2 was falling.

Gee, is that weird or what?

No temperature correlation, at all, with the CO2 level, or its trend.

OMG this is just wrong! AGW says that's IMPOSSIBLE!

 

But hey, I shouldn't be blaspheming like this.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 17:42 | 4491172 Miffed Microbio...
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AGW is simply the front Element IMHO. And when the power appears to wane, the aggression usually rises. This is a sign there is more afoot. Pure science demands considering all possible facts,not only the supportive. I am always suspicious of those who hold views too tightly and visibly show discomfort when challenged. This smacks of religion not science.

Unfortunately, though purporting to be scientists, many are promulgating AGW as unquestionable fact. I am suspicious this is due to the money and power that can be gleaned here. Having worked in scientific research years ago I was astounded at the fudging of data and the political maneuvering to acquire grants and funds. As with anything, throw enough money at it and the vultures will circle. I am not saying there isn't any credible research being done today but so much of it is tainted its hard to find truth. Flak and her incessant bible thumping in this area seems more masturbatory than an attempt to prove a point. But what do I know. I don't have a PhD. ;-)

Miffed;-)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:16 | 4491448 Element
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The biggest stumbling-block for AGW is the earth appears to be a denier. When we first locked horns I tried to tell flak she was a boring pseudo-scientist who didn't know a thing about earth or its climate, and although that proved devastatingly accurate, she couldn't see it at the time, thus isn't coping well, given earth clearly concurs. Oh well, I did try to tell her that if you just ignore and deny the earth science, then that's gonna happen. She was warned. It's a cautionary tale.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:13 | 4491426 Miffed Microbio...
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Thanks for the graphs. I was entertained last week reading an article in Florida on this issue. Apparently the destruction of the Mangrove forests by hurricanes has been implicated in the rise of CO2 levels due to the fact sunlight can now penetrate the forest floor and allowing bacterial action on wood debris. I was unsure where this would go. Surely there wouldn't be a proposal to end hurricanes? I'd like to meet the individual who would volunteer to bell that cat. No, the article didn't go that far. Instead it made the conclusion the hurricanes were the result of the increase of CO2 though no proof was offered. So the circular argument was complete. I vowed to myself to never read another article about AGW without first have a glass of scotch to fully appreciate the contents.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:43 | 4491560 Element
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Hah, it ain't science is it miffed. There's a basic dishonesty in such 'research' that's plainly neurotic. Somehow these people did not garner the basic philosophical requirements for understanding when learning how to learn, or they're broken upstairs for other reasons. Flak's asserted before that she's not ideologically-driven, but if that's so the alternate explanations are a fair bit less flattering. Either that or people like flak are crooks with accreditation. But even this doesn't explain the dissonant fundamentalist zealotry flak seethes with virtually 100% of the time.

er ... not that there's anything wrong with that.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 19:35 | 4491853 Miffed Microbio...
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So true. Yet, we are approaching this as entertainment and who verbally regales most impressively at a cocktail party. The danger lies in an individual with such inclinations acquiring power and steering policies. Repercussions of this are only destructive. Fervent believers of AGW tend to have concomitant lust for power. Exposure of this usually awakens one to their true goals so they must downplay their belief as an ideology. Reading Flak at times reminds me of the two demon's interactions in The Screwtape Letters.

Miffed;-)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:54 | 4492571 Element
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I suspect many of the hardline AGW weirdos are Luddites who have bought into the sort of mentality and radical green revolution model espoused by Ted Kaczynski, as their behaviors and statements can not be explained except by their subscription to a rigid irrational agenda which is not interested in evidence, or at least not evidence it can't face, use/abuse or successfully argue against.

The basic links posted for instance.

The remarkable thing is how they paint the rational skeptic who produces evidence to substantiate the rational basis to be skeptical of AGW claims, as a view which MSM media, politicians spending tax-payers money and certain 'princes' paint as 'unbalanced'.

While the dolt with a flimsy theory which doesn't accord with the basic observational evidence, and who voice fervent opinions and uses GIGO models to 'support' other models and to generate predictions, whose output will never be tested within our lifetime ... these are perfectly respectable 'scientific' methods.

 

Ha! Something not quite right about that. ;-)

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:13 | 4492669 Miffed Microbio...
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Your post made me laugh and reminded me of a time as a young clinical microbiologist how important it is to have a foundational piece of data that is true before any additional suppositions can be made.

I had isolated a bacteria from the blood of a patient in ICU. I initially typed it as Gram negative and went deep into chemical analysis to try to identify it to species. I keyed it out to an extremely rare isolate but all the pieces fit. Three people reviewed my work and concurred so I called the dr and he placed the patient on the appropriate antibiotic.

Something about it bothered my supervisor who decided to have a new set of eyes review it and sent the bug to another lab. Well, they called us and said it was not Gram negative but Gram positive! Yes, the patient was on the wrong antibiotic and thankfully got on the correct therapy before disasterous effects. I learned a grave lesson that day that when you find yourself trying to fit a bacteria to a preconceived idea, you invite trouble and all subsequent work is worthless. Caution, observation, questioning assumptions and a touch of paranoia makes for a good microbiologist. Perhaps the devotees to AGW should consider these attributes.

But I must admit the wild rantings of Ted Kaczynski are certainly more sexy and have the additional aspect of providing food for stupid wonder.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 03:26 | 4492757 MEAN BUSINESS
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"Perhaps the devotees to AGW should consider these attributes."

Are you saying that the scientists dealing with AGW over the last 25 years or more have never considered these attributes? Yes you are. You are full of shit.

Are you saying that a microbiologist, who errs and loses one patient, is equivalent to a macro-biologist who errs and loses an entire species?

You are scared, and your little circle jerk here, glass of scotch in hand, is almost ________. People look up to you. 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 08:15 | 4492926 Element
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Ah, case in point right there, some hysterical self-appointed savior of all of humanity has made a bonus second-coming.

They're everywhere! lol

And if we don't unquestioningly do as they say, or as their model says, we'll be directly responsible for the end of the hole Wherld! lol

And she called you scared. Ha! Unbelievable. You must have hit a nerve.

I think I see Stychokillers point. :D

 

 

oh, and a "Member for 6 weeks 8 hours" ... lol
Sat, 03/01/2014 - 12:02 | 4493350 Flakmeister
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Psst...

That GISP2 temperature graph you showed is not what you think it is...

Please share with us what date corresponds to "The Present"?

See what happened to Mr. 42 Here and futher down Here

You are either a fool or a liar...

I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and just call you a fool...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 09:19 | 4500920 Element
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Well gee flak, your first link is boken and the other two you got your ass smashed all over the thread.

But did you kind of miss this? MWP warmer than now? ... looks like GISP2 is gonna fine there matey, but AGW and huckey-stucks (a little Kiwi impersonation there), not so much.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/28/inconvenient-study-arctic-was-warm...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:47 | 4493352 Miffed Microbio...
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Element,

I was initially quite excited. I have hooked one and it's engaging! But then I was crestfallen realizing it is probably Flak under a new avatar, " Flak" having been so soiled it has lost all respect and credibility. Time to move on to hunt new game. She even didn't get I was speaking metaphorically.

Yes, there is more fear in her camp then mine. Her posts always drip with desperation and the need for respect and acknowledgement as the keeper of truth. Sadly, this is the last thing she gets. I am comfortable as who I am. I am questioning and inquisitive but have no need for ideology to fulfill me. The funny part is she says people look up to me as a microbiologist but I never misrepresent who I am or what skills I have. My area of expertise is limited, I am no researcher and have no PhD. I think most here just respect me for my honesty rather profession. May be honesty is the attribute the AGW crowd should aim to cultivate. ;-)

Miffed;-)

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:55 | 4493385 Flakmeister
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Miffed is also a simple kind hearted fool that should leave the science of the climate to those with more capable hands...

But you are so sweet compared to the foul mouthed wingnuts here...

BTW, the above lesson to Element (and Mr. 42)  should be required reading for someone that is so clearly interested in honesty as you claim to be...

I could provide some more excellent examples of blatant dishonesty but they are not so obvious as the above and do require a grasp that unfortunately likely exceeds your abilities... Here it is anyway..

http://deepclimate.org/2010/11/16/replication-and-due-diligence-wegman-s...

And I can assure you that the above findings will be of interest in the Mann Libel proceedings as an example what academic fraud really looks like...

Toodles...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 09:47 | 4501014 Element
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Flak is a spin-boy, he has no interest in anything but to try and pretend he's won some imaginary contest.

Six months back he was practically begging me within a week-old thread, to stop kicking the shit out of him on the basics, saying that if I'd just stop then he'd stop being a dumb fuck to me. I couldn't believe it. I've got it somewhere I'll dig it up and show you. He's off his bloody nut. But his complete balderdash on the ocean acidification topic was the last straw. Even after I explained it to him in great detail he still couldn't face it. Ridiculous, so I've no respect for a crooked twerp like him. I've got that one stored away as well.

I see he's trying the stand-over routine on you. He does that when he's getting his ass handed to him way too much. Lately there's been a whole lot of it, so many people in zh are sick of his high-handed bullshit but more-so they're just sick of him.

Hey flak, Mann liable case? Are you really that fucking stupid? This is an anon blog! I mean, did it occur to you at any point, that you're out of your fucking mind? lol ... you just make me laugh ... I can't believe what a dippy pillock you are.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 20:34 | 4492100 StychoKiller
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[quote]er ... not that there's anything wrong with that.[/quote]

BS, such zealotry always leads to murdering those that disagree with yer religion (ref:  Crusades).

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 23:12 | 4492512 Element
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You maybe didn't get the reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GMZjkNW5b8

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:37 | 4489446 dogbreath
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sort of like the Flakbitch

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:29 | 4489768 Flakmeister
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My, what a fucking snappy display of wit, did it take you long to think that one up?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:36 | 4490763 dogbreath
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I try to be original, I don't have a reference archive at my fingertips as you do

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 18:13 | 4491427 Flakmeister
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I lost the training wheels many years ago....

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 21:59 | 4492361 dogbreath
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you mean you can give good head,  do you swallow

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:05 | 4492663 Flakmeister
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Do you fantasize about getting head? It would appear so...

Whatever floats your boat buddy, its's a free country...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 01:23 | 4492678 dogbreath
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you said you were experienced,  there aren't that many.     So now you you are saying you are close minded or uptight.  Do you have trouble achiveing the big "O" by other than mechanical means.  Poor girl.    That would explain your dogma.   Good head is well....... good

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 11:20 | 4493262 Flakmeister
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If you think I'm a girl, let's arrange to get together so you can suck me off and find out for yourself....

You can then upgrade your handle to CockBreath...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 12:38 | 4493546 dogbreath
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specious as usual.     

Cunt breath maybe

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 17:21 | 4494553 Miffed Microbio...
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Dogbreath, don't you think making that asinine comment you just fed into Flak's hand as just a foul mouthed wing nut? Thanks for proving her point to the quality of those of us posting here.

Miffed;-)

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 17:31 | 4494594 dogbreath
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fuck off   only two people to a fight

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 18:17 | 4494804 Flakmeister
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Touche, buddy...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:29 | 4489367 Dollarmedes
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...Says the guy who's been here for 30 weeks.

If you have a problem with his point, address that instead of LAZILY resorting to ad hominem.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:31 | 4489394 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

But with such a patriotic name and a storied tenure of 3 weeks, 3 days, there's no way he running psy ops here on the hedge.

No way!

Here's something you might find interesting, superflex.

After taking a look at how long semperfidelis has been a member, compare the results with those for Dollarmedes and flysofree and see if you notice anything.

Probably just coincidence.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:48 | 4489522 Flakmeister
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Just like Volkodav: 9 weeks 6 days....

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:55 | 4489170 shovelhead
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Mr. Chamberlain says "Peace in our time."

"Really...written right here..."

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:46 | 4488769 Arius
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Merkel meeting with the Queen .... they must have decided already what is going to be the stand against Putin should he decide to do something stupid once SOCHI OLYMPICS were over .... the germans must have had some intellegence on russians next steps it seems to me.

 

the Budapest 1994 agreement has good value needless to say.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:49 | 4488792 Volkodav
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Looks someone already violated 1,2 and 3....and it wasn't Putin

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:15 | 4488953 Urban Redneck
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Shit or get off the pot.
Don't cite a treaty if you don't understand it or how it can and can't be used.
English and Legalese aren't the same language
Look at your own #2 and think.

It's not that long or complicated a treaty:

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as a non-nuclear-weapon State,
Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,
Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.
Confirm the following:


The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to respect the Independence and Sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm, in the case of the Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear weapon state.
The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will consult in the event a situation arises which raises a question concerning these commitments.

This Memorandum will become applicable upon signature.
Signed in four copies having equal validity in the English, Russian and Ukrainian languages.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:18 | 4488980 silvermail
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Today in Ukraine there is no legitimate authority and any legitimate ministers of Internal Affairs. Today in Ukraine there are only rebels, buyout force seized power in Kiev. And also in Ukraine, there are regions that have remained faithful to the Constitution, democracy and legitimate democratically elected Ukrainian President.

I repeat: The authorities in Kiev are now thugs and criminals. It's a fact and it does not depend on opinions EuroNATO of USA . All these criminals, have committed particularly serious crime. They have committed armed coup and eventually they all will be arrested and prosecuted.

Including an accomplice of criminals that today nazyvetsya himself " Minister of Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine ." He is not the Minister. He impostor. It will be sent to jail , along with all the other members of his criminal gang.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:25 | 4489017 Spumoni
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UR, you have hit the right tone-but here's the thing: since when has the US, Britain, Germany or Russia allowed a treaty to get in the way of their economic/political/genocidal agendae? 

Treaties are toilet paper designed as propaganda instruments. The problem is that The Leadership does not care about murdering our children. I suppose they think that they can wield power from the grave.

A prayer for the dying, the children of perpetual war. A prayer for our species, that we survive long enough to learn to do better with our opposable thumbs.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:36 | 4489074 Urban Redneck
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Well, I don't know as I want a lawyer to tell me what I cannot do. I hire him to tell how to do what I want to do.

--J.P. Morgan


(I was actually told that one verbatim on day one of a job)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:34 | 4489073 IREN Colorado
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That is patently silly. The Ukrainian parliment and citizens have put down a naked grab at a soverign nation. They've kicked the little boot licking Yanukovych back to his masters where he shows up speaking Russian and demanding somebody give him back his yatch and his big house. Vlad Thug Putin then sends in the Spetznaz to "invade" the Crimea. 

Ukrainian armed forces should take back the buildings & airports and put the heads of the spetznaz on pikes around the entrance of the airport with their flags stapled to their foreheads.

 

 

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:42 | 4489105 Johnny Cocknballs
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Yeah, Putin did not send spetznaz into Crimea. 

Your assessments here continue to be a mix of ignorance and transparent bias.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:30 | 4489384 Flakmeister
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Hey CockIntheAss, you got a message waiting for you here

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:45 | 4489118 Fractal Parasite
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Those traitors will get their asses handed to them by the locals if they try that, even without Spetznas and Berkut.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:23 | 4489190 the phantom
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Yeah, the "citizens" have staged a revolt.  This is about "democracy" and "corruption".  The CIA psy-ops program really needs to get better posters on blog sites. SMH 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:48 | 4489523 matrix2012
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A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

By Steve Kangas

 

The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities and crimes committed by the CIA.

CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.

This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder.

 

It's worth of one's reading!

Read the rest here.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:47 | 4489136 geno-econ
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It is easy and naive to say Obama is trying to do this or that when in reality there are pressure groups within US that have agendas such as Neocons, expatriot groups, Defense dept. , Think tanks, etc. Presidents do have ideological fervor and legacy ambitions but I do not believe Ukraine is on that list for Obama. I just hope checks and balances prevail since two World Wars have been ignited in that part of the world with millions of deaths. Some reports suggest central Ukraine is seeing signs of language, property, and people cleansing already beginning with old animosities, territorial transfer ambitions surfacing on all sides and surrounding nations------not a good sign for peace or Obama Presidential legacy. Now all eyes are on Putin who must have strong legacy aspirations in Ukraine and areas surrounding Russia. I hope we do not have another Bush /Cheney venture on our hands that cost us dearly in lives and treasure. The Cold War, military spending and Afghanistan brought down the USSR --- we are now in the same position where war, indebtedness and Ukraine could spell economic collapse for the US .

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:36 | 4490111 sessinpo
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semperfidelis       I think its a false flag. I don`t think Putin is stupid to start a war. He has all the time in the world to asses the situation and mount a counteroffensive.

 

What planet are you on. Obama is neutering America's military. Even without Obama, the USA doesn't have the money for more wars without borrowing (Yes, master). Obama has the balls of a gnat.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:40 | 4488737 verbot
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We could simply step back and see whose fight this really is._. Oh American officials openly fomenting a civil war you say? Guess we think we may win huh?   

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:42 | 4488738 The Phu
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This is what those helicopters are doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QzJKCUekQ

 

(Ride of the Valkyries from "Apocalypse Now")

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:52 | 4488827 dbTX
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Where is Susan Rice when we really need her?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:14 | 4488957 viahj
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searching you-tube

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:18 | 4488981 superflex
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...for hair straightning products.

Since she's gone full retard, bitch needs to go full afro instead of that hair glued to head look.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:38 | 4490125 sessinpo
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She is watching the anti muslim video posted on youtube that caused all this. Oh, you didn't see it? Neither did anyone else.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:13 | 4489676 Dr. Destructo
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Maybe it wasn't the proper shade of red like say, Alarm red. It could of been another shade like say, Desire red.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:34 | 4488683 TheMeatTrapper
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Time to redraw the redline. Again. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:35 | 4488697 Aknownymouse
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Luckily Bama uses crayons

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:23 | 4489005 superflex
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Crayola washables with glitter

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:16 | 4489691 Dr. Destructo
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And there is such a color as "Crayola red".

Zerohedgers, we found the issue.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:43 | 4488754 agent default
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You don't have to redraw the whole line, you just retrace the line around Putin's shoes.  Then you proclaim that you stopped him just short of crossing your red line, because he realized that he better not fuck with you.  Repeat after every step.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:20 | 4489712 matrix2012
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agent default, you are a pretty funny dude with your genuine description of D.C.'s RED LINE... lol 

+1

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:45 | 4488767 negative rates
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Where was that drawn line you say? In the toilet??

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:49 | 4488791 BandGap
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Wouldn't have to if he'd used a thicker crayon.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:01 | 4488890 krispkritter
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Robin Williams classic, describing Qaddafi but could be Obobo (:36) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_wWCP2HJWs

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:34 | 4488684 Newsboy
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"I love the smell of natural gas in the morning."

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:34 | 4488685 EverythingEviL
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Guess we know who took over the airport now

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:34 | 4488686 Iocosus
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Now the REAL Olympics begin.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:34 | 4488687 Payne
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NSA is going to hack thier onboard webcams

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:38 | 4489085 IREN Colorado
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Yeah! The world is about to burn down while barry sotero & the wookie are making sure they can see through your web-camera! search your property without warrants! and steal you fracking blind with taxes! and go all joseph stalin with his pen and cell phone! Shheeeesh!

Somebody wake me up from this nightmare!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:36 | 4488688 Max Damage
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All the new Ukraine needs is a Hormonal Yellen, sporting a strap on to scare them fuckers off

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:56 | 4488856 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yellen's hormones ran out decades ago.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:19 | 4489706 Clowns on Acid
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...ran out moaning... decades ago...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:34 | 4488689 Aknownymouse
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All activities have been prescheduled long time ago, as mr Ketchup said.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:35 | 4488696 Pheonyte
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Is that Bernanke I see in the cockpit?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:46 | 4488773 economisery
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No, Bernanke's helicopter is the one with 'IMF' painted on it.

Should be arriving in Kiev any day now.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:37 | 4488708 ArisAron
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

Hey OBOZO! Do you really think PUTIN gives two shits about what you think??? He thinks you're a fucking IDIOT!! John Kerry too!!

 

Guess what??? He's RIGHT!!!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:38 | 4488722 Aknownymouse
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Not only Putin who thinks those bozos are idiots. Its pretty much everyone who is not black

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:50 | 4488808 BandGap
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I have a few friends who happen to be black that think he's an asshole, too.

Change we can believe in, baby.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:58 | 4488859 Hephaestus
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I live in Atlanta and know plenty of blacks that dont like him. They think he is an untruthful double crossing sock puppet politician just like all the rest.

Carlin

http://youtu.be/ttUvsrcxKmI

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:49 | 4488793 agent default
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Oh came on.  Cut Obongo some slack, nobody and I do I mean, NOBODY COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING.  Really, it is an amazingly unpredictable twist in the whole affair.  Russia reacting to an invasion from the western border (again).  You have to be incredibly insightful to predict the reaction.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 12:17 | 4489302 monad
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Pay attention. Obozo and Puttin' are on the same team. We're the ones getting attacked...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:37 | 4488709 AG BCN
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Putin doing what Putin does. He doesn't fuck about. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:38 | 4488726 ExpendableOne
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The difference between a talker (obama) and a doer (putin).  

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:29 | 4489043 Spumoni
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Yes, by all means glorify the biggest. loudest KBG thug of 'em all. What a pack of idiots. Please emigrate - Poot'n needs more asslickers to keep his mouth clean.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:41 | 4489087 headhunt
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Most do not like what he is doing but Putin is a 'doer' and obama is a talker.

No action, which is why obama's threats have no credence with the world and certainly not Putin.

Fear is the only respect you will get from the likes of Putin and he has no fear of the USA thanks to this government. Chicken little will be ignored every time.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:30 | 4489577 Flakmeister
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The only "doin'" Putin is working on is lining his pockets in the exact same fashion that Mobuto Sese Seko did...

Oh yeah, aside from telling Assad to lose the Chemical weapons...

=========

Exactly what threats did Obama make? Can you point out a link to one? You do understand what "threat" means, do you?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:40 | 4488728 overmedicatedun...
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china and russia might just have a plan, i would if i was sitting in moscow and peking..obuma he's still correcting old wrongs againstwhite, oops.black

people, a mao mao wannabe.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:44 | 4488747 Son of Captain Nemo
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Time for another splendiforous John Kerry moment in the eloquent rebuttle department to "rally the troops"...

Any volunteers for a tour of duty near Crimea? $200,000 hazardous duty pay if you survivie after 1 month!

Before I forgot where is President Remus?  Been letting the underlings do most of the dirty work for him over the past couple weeks???

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:50 | 4488802 Rukeysers Ghost
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Before I forgot where is President Remus?  Been letting the underlings do most of the dirty work for his over the past couple weeks???

 

He is very busy right now planning the release party for Beyonce's new album.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:53 | 4488835 overmedicatedun...
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kerry is at this moment on a cia river boat far up the danube and has been wounded multiple times by sharp edges on his i pad. shouting kill col kurtz, horror horror...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:03 | 4488901 Whoa Dammit
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Huh. I thought he was running in the $30,000 claiming race at Aqueduct today.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:43 | 4488757 glaucon was right
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Those are MI-24.

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