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Ukraine Accuses Russia Of Invasion, Considers State Of Emergency After Masked Gunmen Occupy Two Crimean Airports

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The bizarre events in the Crimea continued overnight, after unidentified masked men but dressed like those who took over the parliament in Simferopol yesterday, took over two airports by blockading one near the Russian naval base in Sevastopol and another in the capital of Simferopol. This prompted the Ukraine's interior minister Arsen Avakov, to accuse Moscow's military of blockading the airports, and in a Facebook post, he called the seizure of the Belbek international airport in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol a "military invasion and occupation." He added: "It is a breach of all international agreements and norms." As NBC reports, the Interfax news agency quoted Russian military sources as saying the incident at Belbek airport was intended to stop "fighters" flying in. However, Interfax later quoted a Russian official as saying that no units had approached the airport or blockaded it. In a nutshell, Russia continues to push with escalation ever further, and is testing just how far it can and will go without Ukraine responding.

Kyivpost has a more detailed account:

Two Crimean airports were taken over by Russian military troops, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said on Facebook this morning. He said the situation in the autonomous republic has now escalated to “a military intervention” and called on the National Security Council to take urgent steps towards its regulation.

 

“My assessment of what's going on is that it's a military intervention and occupation in violation of all international agreements and norms,” he said in his statement. “This is a direct provocation of bloodshed on the territory of a sovereign state.”

 

Avakov said that Sevastopol's military airport Bilbek at night was blocked off by the military units of the Russian navy, which is based in Sevastopol. He said the airport is surrounded by camouflaged military troops with no identification and carrying guns. He said they do not hide their Russian affiliation.

 

Inside the airport there is a group of Ukrainian soldiers and border guards, and Ukrainian police troops have surrounded the outer perimeter of the airport. “There have been no armed clashes so far,” he said.

 

The navy base is Sevastopol is key for the Russian army. Under agreements signed between two countries in 2010, the Russian military can continue to use Sevastopol until 2042, with an option of extending the lease to 2047.

 

Some 70 kilometers away from the coast, in Crimean capital Simferopol, another airport was taken over by a group of about 100 plain-clothed men, who went inside the airport and onto the runway.

 

“The interior troops and police pushed these people first into the airport building, and then out of the territory. No weapons were used,” Avakov said.

 

He said that after the armed men left, a new group of camouflaged men arrived around 1:30 in the morning. They carried automatic weapons and had no markings. Avakov said they entered the building and stayed int he restaurant.

 

“They are not hiding their affiliation with the army of the Russian Federation,” Avakov said. “Told by the Ukrainian Interior Ministry workers that they are military men and have no right to be there, they answer curtly that they have no instructions to negotiate with you.”

 

Avakov said that so far there have been no clashes, but tension is growing as Ukrainian police troops continue to arrive. “The law enforcement organs cannot oppose the army,” Avakov concluded.

In the meantine, Ukraine is starting to realize that it may have bitten more than it can chew, and as Interfax reported:

  • UKRAINE WEIGHS STATE OF EMERGENCY IN CRIMEA: INTERFAX
  • RUSSIA BLACK SEA FLEET, HELICOPTERS BREAK UKRAINE ACCORDS: IFX

And the immediate re-escalation:

  • RUSSIAN BLACK SEA FLEET SETS UP BALACLAVA BLOCKADE: INTERFAX

Visually:

Yet none of this compares to today's main event when a t 5pm local time, in the Rostov-on-Don Technical University, deposed Ukraine president Yanukovich who is currently in Russia, is expected to hold a press conference. Missing since the beginning of the week, the ousted ukrainian president had fled the country to Russia in the latest days, either by car through the Donetsk region, either escorted by military planes, according to different reports.

We doubt anything he says will difuse the situation.

 

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Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:01 | 4488070 laomei
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Please let this be WW3, the world needs a good shake up.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:07 | 4488083 strongband
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You went full retard. Never go full retard.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:09 | 4488088 GetZeeGold
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I would anticipate the bad behavior to build as time progresses.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:12 | 4488095 Arius
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this spells TROUBLE for the whole world.

 

Ukraine will be to WARs what Greece was to FINANCIAL markets ... catastrophy ... Armaggeddon coming ... ready or not ...

 

 they will be sorry afterwards but it will be too late ... STATUS QUO is best !!!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:38 | 4488146 Headbanger
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You're an idiot.  The status quo is what caused this mess you mook!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:59 | 4488192 Ar-Pharazôn
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status quo is by definition balance.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:11 | 4488239 ndotken
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If you like your airport ... you can keep your airport ... NOT!!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:55 | 4488425 SWRichmond
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“They are not hiding their affiliation with the army of the Russian Federation,” Avakov said. “Told by the Ukrainian Interior Ministry workers that they are military men and have no right to be there, they answer curtly that they have no instructions to negotiate with you.”

 

This is a great line and should prove useful in the future.  "I have no instructions to negotiate with you".  After all, as the American neocons have so clearly demonstrated time and again, might makes right, and the best defense is a good offense.  We were hopeful, too hopeful, that some new norm of civilized behaviour would emerge, but the neocons are far too fond of killing and robbing.  So as it was, so shall it be.

Never let it be said that we are too old to learn, and accept things as they are.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:29 | 4488613 superflex
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Looks like somebody alerted the media whores that the airport was about to be occupied.  These poor slobs in camo havent even had time to get out of their tranport truck and the media is on them.  Hell, they havent even had time to stick a magazine in their AK.  

Now, who do you think would do this?   Hmmmmmmm.

Yep, this smells of Putin /s

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:58 | 4489911 Ident 7777 economy
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they answer curtly that they have no instructions to negotiate with you.”

 

"This is a great line and should prove useful in the future."

 

GREAT LINE. Going to use it in the future.

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:13 | 4488244 Ayreos
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Status quo is by definition the current state of affairs, wether it's in balance or not. The economic and military "status quo" is in no way in balance, hence the recurring crisises and military engagements.

Calling for the status quo to end is in the premises of this site calling for a temporary period of chaos to produce a higher state of balance.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:14 | 4488096 johnQpublic
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 in a Facebook post, he called the seizure of the Belbek international airport in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol

 

 in a Facebook post, he called the seizure of the Belbek international airport in the Black SWAN port of Sevastopol

 

there, fixed it for ya

 

and are we really fighting wars on facebook now?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:28 | 4488129 Mae Kadoodie
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All your airports are belong to us.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:52 | 4488176 Hephaestus
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Yes fighting on Facebook is for real. Below from post written by Dai Xu where he pretty much accuses the US of already having used Social Media to attack China. Just like Tunisia Egypt Libya etc. Why attack with tanks if you can get the home population to tear the county apart. Then the IMF comes in and snaps a pretty golden collar around the new govt.

"America’s pivot to Asia is led by the Internet technology that has produced a mixture of cyberspace electronic warfare and ideological information warfare. The first kind of warfare is limited to conventional military areas, but the second kind of warfare has invisibly formed a different kind of fighting that defies all military concepts. In 2013, manipulated by a mysterious force outside China, a few Chinese language websites controlled by foreign capitals have manufactured a few anti-military and anti-patriotic incidents. The anti-Communist, anti-Chinese government, and anti-China forces have joined hands in stirring up these incidents. In response, the broad masses of patriotic netizens have launched a counter offensive. With collaboration from relevant agencies of the Chinese government, a victory was achieved in this pitched cyberspace battle similar to the battles fought during the Korean War."

Read the whole thing on ZH President Of China's Marine Institute For Security: "Glory Drenched In Blood Will Pave China’s Road To Revitalization"

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:17 | 4488254 john39
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yes, now we know why the global dictatorship allowed the internet in the first place, to use social networking to engineer new governments, and to spy on all of us 24/7.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:39 | 4488337 Spumoni
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Those guys at NSA and GCHQ must be really bored. Maybe we should set a time and collectively moon the bastards!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:09 | 4488517 Hephaestus
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Holy shit I just pictured 300 million Americans mooning their computers OMFG what the hell happened to us?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:06 | 4488218 TheFourthStooge-ing
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This prompted the Ukraine's interior minister Arsen Avakov, to accuse Moscow's military of blockading the airports

Facebook is a funny thing.

Funny how armed gangs roving the streets of Kiev "collecting taxes" is a Glorious People's Uprising®, but Crimean local militias forming checkpoints to keep the criminal riff raff out are a Soviet military invasion.

Funny guy, this Arsen Avakov. Perhaps his performing in comedy clubs can raise enough money to pay the bills owed by the new People's Republic of Ukraine.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:52 | 4488175 chubbar
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What is interesting is the the "press" describes these guys as masked gunmen when they are supporting Russia but uses the less inflammatory description of demonstrator or freedom fighter when the occupying force is aligned with the U.S. interests.

Anyone have a guess as to what you or I would be called if we were to occupy a gov't building by force?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:40 | 4488341 Spumoni
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I think we'd be called "corpses."

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:47 | 4488378 Proofreder
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In 1974 you are a dedicated antiwar hero.

In 2014 you are simply dead.

or suicided

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:29 | 4488291 silvermail
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"Ukraine Accuses Russia Of Invasion, Considers State Of Emergency After Masked Gunmen Occupy Two Crimean Airports"

Today in Ukraine there is no legitimate authority and any legitimate ministers of Internal Affairs. Today in Ukraine there are only rebels, buyout force seized power in Kiev. And also in Ukraine, there are regions that have remained faithful to the Constitution, democracy and legitimate democratically elected Ukrainian President.

I repeat: The authorities in Kiev are now thugs and criminals. It's a fact and it does not depend on opinions EuroNATO of UCA . All these criminals, have committed particularly serious crime. They have committed armed coup and eventually they all will be arrested and prosecuted.

Including an accomplice of criminals that today nazyvetsya himself " Minister of Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine ." He is not the Minister. He impostor. It will be sent to jail , along with all the other members of his criminal gang.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:42 | 4488351 Spumoni
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Yeah right. Yanukovicz is such a bastion of law, order and civilization. Long live the right of outside nations to interfere in the democratization of other peoples' lands!!/sarc

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:37 | 4488328 Spumoni
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This is actually just a training exercise for DC and Philly cops.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:15 | 4488103 Doña K
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Ukraine is being sacrificed as another pawn. I will be suprized if her fate had not been predetermined. More loans, more debt slaves, more guns more speculation, more pain and suffering and more austerity while TPTB are feasting with other elite on caviar and Dom Perignon Brute

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:23 | 4488616 RafterManFMJ
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It's a damn shame Germany can't occupy the West and let Russia have the Eastern portions of Ukraine.

Then Russia could turn her eyes toward Finland while Germany takes the Autobahn to France.

Maybe a crazy Serbian Nationalist or Somali immigrant could shoot Joe Biden, drawing the US in.

Just trying to rhyme some history here.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:27 | 4488128 Tasty Sandwich
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They're on their way to Russia...

Ah, nothing like some good old fashioned nuclear war to get the day started.

Status of World Nuclear Forces

More than two decades after the Cold War ended, the world's combined inventory of nuclear warheads remains at a very high level: more than 17,000. Of these, some 4,300 warheads are considered operational, of which about 1,800 US and Russian warheads are on high alert, ready for use on short notice.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:33 | 4488303 Urban Redneck
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Akov,
You dumb-ass wanna-be Yukey- that's not a military invasion, but you're about to legally invite one, and learn what a real military invasion looks like. Stop playing into the Russian's hands. Suggest you consult your IMF overlords and ask them to loan you some paper dollars to get yourself some competent legal counsel (and walking around money for yourself of course). If the Orange Mistress of the IMF won't give you the bonus bucks for personal use, she does a have a deep bench of skilled and loyal shysters available to expedite her ambitions, for the low low price of your balls and your country. In the mean-time, avoid saying stupid things in social media...
Cheers!

To paraphrase the original advice (Rinse, Repeat) from the the last twatter/facefuck social media war against Russian military occupation. If only I could find a link to the original...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 13:52 | 4489879 general ambivalent
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Who knew we'd get trolled into WWIII through Facebook Like campaigns? The Russians are ready for war and the other side is just a special op World Bank 3-D Printer spamming twitter.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:07 | 4488084 Iocosus
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There's too many people and we're on the brink of global depression. War has been shown to mitigate those problems.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:15 | 4488106 Arius
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Yes, it might be true that there are too many people .... but should anyone one or group of people considers themselves God and decide who should die ???

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:09 | 4488232 TheFourthStooge-ing
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but should anyone one or group of people considers themselves God and decide who should die ???

Obama thinks so.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:38 | 4488320 Hephaestus
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Speaking of too many people.

Due to China's "one child policy" they have 100 million men who get to share 1 wife(the chinese prefer male children and aborted the girls). The only thing the Chinese govt really cares about is staying in control of the population. The "one child policy" made that much harder.  No pussy for life will drive any man crazy so the big question is Do the Chinese expect to lose millions of men some were? If all American males were to die along with all the old women over 30 what does that leave about 75 million women? When they invade us I bet the bonus package includes 1-2 acres of CLEAN land tax free for a generation and a couple of American girls to "help out".

So I wonder was "one child policy" ever really about population control? Did they breed a hundred million extra men who would be self motivated for invasions? Could they have done this shit on purpose?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:58 | 4488452 Proofreder
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old women over 30 

Dickhead

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:27 | 4488638 RafterManFMJ
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Due to China's "one child policy" they have 100 million men who get to share 1 wife...

I didn't know things were that bad over there; that poor woman is going to be bow legged in no time.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:20 | 4488111 headhunt
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That's true about the war thing but that is suppose to be a thought balloon above your head - not a comment on ZH

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:01 | 4488468 Iocosus
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That's how those pulling the strings think. It's hard to control billions of people and the chances of a few rogue geniuses popping up and organizing some significant resistance only increases with more people. And as an added kicker, reset the debt clock by destroying innocent people and their stuff.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:39 | 4488151 Tasty Sandwich
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A world war today would involve nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons of mass destruction.

The survivors would envy the dead.

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:04 | 4488489 Iocosus
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Perhaps, but I believe an EMP would kill way more people much faster. Hell would manifest on Earth.

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:24 | 4490029 silvermail
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"There's too many people and we're on the brink of global depression. War has been shown to mitigate those problems."

Yes, the war would solve this problem. Particularly nuclear war between block Russia-China and block EUNATO of USA.

It is very sad that the control centers of Europe, was moved from Berlin, Paris and London to Brussels, what is controlled by the United States. And it is very sad that Europe has gradually turned into the corridor-maid for service US-NATO.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:08 | 4488086 SheepRevolution
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WWIII is a financial war, and it's been going on for at least since 2008.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:30 | 4488296 tocointhephrase
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Financial war leads to hot war.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:13 | 4488097 RSDallas
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Laomei,

Your ignorance is the fuel of the worlds demise.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:59 | 4488191 negative rates
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It's a civil war bonehead, frontlines kind o war, if yee aint there, you never would have known about it. Unless some other bonehead went out of there way to inform you.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:35 | 4488317 jimmytorpedo
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Russia vs. Nato would be more than "a good shake up"

Full retard indeed.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:01 | 4488071 Pool Shark
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Off topic, but:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/28/mt-gox-files-for-bankruptcy/

Aaaaaaand, it's gone, it's all gone...

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:01 | 4488201 negative rates
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And all the more confidence for them others.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:44 | 4488362 Spumoni
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Yeah, but Fonestar is rich. He goxed the lot!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:03 | 4488074 22winmag
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That the dissolution of the USSR is a myth can't get much more obvious than this.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:14 | 4488102 GetZeeGold
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Rest assured.....the US would never go down that road.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:05 | 4488076 Cognitive Dissonance
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"In a nutshell, Russia continues to push with escalation ever further, and is testing just how far it can and will go without Ukraine responding."

While that might be so, I suspect Russia is testing to see how far they can and will go without the world's cop (read USA and its puppets allies) responding.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:11 | 4488093 Winston Churchill
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Ass backwards.

Russia is responding to self appointed world cop intrusion on their sphere of influence.

Cuba redux.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:15 | 4488105 nonclaim
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But the intrusion was a response to the legislative coup by Yanukovich.

[we can go backwards all the way to middle ages]

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:42 | 4488155 Cognitive Dissonance
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Exactly. Where does it all begin? There is always an excuse to take umbrage with a present day situation based upon perceived past outrages. Those who control our historical perspective control our future. Take back our past and they cannot control our future. This is precisely why here in the US the truth about September 11, 2001 is so important to be publically recognized and why the lie is so desperately promoted and supported.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:53 | 4488177 flapdoodle
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+googleplex

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:49 | 4488388 LawsofPhysics
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Where is begins is irrelevant.  This is not Libya or Iraq.  The eastern part of the country Russian, period, and that which cannot be sustained, won't be.  The resources available to the west will continue to be stressed, even more so as food prices start to explode with the downstream affects of the California drought etc. 

Let's see how eager the political puppets are to get involved in such things when their own neighborhoods are on fire.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:14 | 4488544 Proofreder
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Look for the California Drought

to turn into a Flood as perhaps 12 inches of rain

are on the way.  Rain on bone-dry ground does not soak in.

Food prices explode and Government Plastic erodes - at the same rate.

Starvation / malnutrition became the norm in the German and Zimbabwe hyperinflations  Only the rich (with gold and silver) survived and prospered.

Got gold ?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:31 | 4490074 silvermail
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"But the intrusion was a response to the legislative coup by Yanukovich".

No.
Intrusion was a response to the illegal of EUNATO coup by Yanukovich.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:17 | 4488256 agent default
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Ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US through NATO has effectively canceled the Yalta accord and has been trying to encircle and strangulate Russia. 

The idiots have put Russia in a position that has no choice but to fight.  It is as simple as that.  Russia has no choice on the matter anymore, they have put Russia in a position where it either has to fight to prevent total encirclement and strangulation, or capitulate to the US/NATO/EU/IMF/NWO. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:46 | 4488375 Spumoni
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Which is a default act of war...and hardly the first time that strategy has been used. We did the same thing to Japan.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:19 | 4488441 agent default
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And when Japan realized they had no choice they struck.  They knew they were going to wake up the sleeping giant, but they had no choice.  I think the West with its stupid policies will wake up another sleeping giant, but this giant has repeatedly been proven to be extremely ruthless and bloodthirsty when disturbed

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:06 | 4488080 Bearwagon
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Soundtrack: Donovan, The War Drags On
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRKsown-yEE

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:07 | 4488082 ParkAveFlasher
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Wake me when Poland is invaded.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:10 | 4488092 HobbyFarmer
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The last time that happened, it took all of 24 hours.  Keep one eye open so you don't miss it.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:13 | 4488100 Winston Churchill
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The siege of Warsaw,by the Germans took a month.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:19 | 4488110 Doña K
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Yes! The Germans had their troops marching backwards and the Poles looking with binoculars thought they were leaving.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:23 | 4488116 headhunt
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Poland is much more prepared and it would be very, very ugly - Ukraine? Not so much.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:27 | 4488220 alus
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Last time Poland was attacked by Germans and Russians (17.09.1939) from both sides. No chances, because all the treaties signed before with France and Great Britain were worthless... Remember this. It's very important to find the friends correctly.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:00 | 4488463 agent default
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Poland aided in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia and grabbed parts of the land for itself.  Some friend Poland was to begin with.  Opportunistic idiots get what they deserve in the end from all sides.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:06 | 4488222 Ar-Pharazôn
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poor polish...

 

i hope they learnt something last time....

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:24 | 4488621 Proofreder
Fri, 02/28/2014 - 11:17 | 4488977 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It only takes one to screw in a light bulb.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:11 | 4488242 BadDog
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Funny how things go.  A few years ago, I was having a discussion with this near 90 year old woman who remembers wwII.  This was when the U.S. was discussing putting missiles in Poland as part of the so called missile defense system.  Her comment was telling.  She looked at me and asked "Do you think it's a good idea to put missiles in Poland"?  I said NO.  She nodded and exclaimed "You don't think it's a good idea to put missiles in Poland and I don't think it's a good idea to put missiles in Poland.  What on earth are these people thinking"?  She's a great gal still.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:53 | 4488413 agent default
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The people she was referring to have never seen real war.  Hell most of them have never held a real job.  They live in a little sphere of their own, light years away from the real Universe.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:20 | 4488265 agent default
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Poland better stay away from this.  The  last thing they need is to find themselves between a new East vs West war.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:52 | 4488411 Rip van Wrinkle
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Poland will do exactly what they're told to do by the US. Otherwise, the US will ensure that the current cabinet has the same outcome as the last.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8613395.stm

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:53 | 4488415 tocointhephrase
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Er Poland is now part of the E.U......too late!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:00 | 4489917 general ambivalent
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Wasn't that Nuremberg?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:09 | 4488087 headhunt
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The silent war of occupation while BHO watches basketball, golfs and is overheard 'if Mexico can do it, why not Russia?'

 

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:13 | 4488098 Pool Shark
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Oh, c'mon. They're just "undocumented mercenaries."

You must be a racist.

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:24 | 4488119 headhunt
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The hoodies they have on are Russian

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:54 | 4488391 Urban Redneck
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For all the truly insane conspiracy theories that are effectively relayed between tinfoil hats- one would think the simple and of the actual (and surprisingly open) high-level collaboration of bankers, lawyers, generals, and grand poobahs would have been relayed as well...

very simple pyramidal hierarchy:

Grand Poobah(s)
Bankers
Lawyers
Generals
State & Military
You

(Consult your nearest tinfoil hat wearing lawyer to inquire as to why US military uniforms now have insignia affixed by removable Velcro as opposed to permanent sewing stitches, and put 2 and 2 together)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:06 | 4488494 Hephaestus
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Its getting really hard to find a conspiracy theory that hasnt been proven true lately. Im waiting for the lizards to come out.

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 16:00 | 4490501 Hephaestus
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Just FUCKING TODAY on this very site TWO MORE conspiracy theories are looking to be true.

Fukushima is far worse than thought.

CNN's John King interviews Arnie Gundersen about the Hot Particles discovered in Japan and the US.

http://vimeo.com/24803980

AND AND looks like gold was manipulated.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-28/gold-price-manipulated-decade-repeatedly-slammed-lower-bloomberg-reports

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:11 | 4488091 JustObserving
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The US as usual is offering a lot of talk apart from the $5 billion that funded the putsch in the Ukraine:

US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel stepped up pressure on the Russian government after a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels on Thursday.

“We expect other nations to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and avoid provocative action,” Hagel declared. “That’s why I’m closely watching Russia’s military exercises along the Ukrainian border, which they just announced yesterday.”

Hagel’s warning comes a day after US Secretary of State John Kerry issued his own threat against Russia. “Any kind of military intervention that would violate the sovereign territorial integrity of Ukraine would be a huge, a grave mistake,” he told reporters in Washington. “The territorial integrity of Ukraine needs to be respected.”

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/28/ukra-f28.html

It is OK that Obama almost invades Syria on the false premise that Assad used sarin gas, drones lots of brown-skinned people with impunity on a regular basis and supports a putsch in the Ukraine since it is only American exceptionalism:

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:14 | 4488101 headhunt
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Nice info - +1

This is what the left does - no matter where in the world they are.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:33 | 4488137 AlaricBalth
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And the neocons on the right are still looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Lying for political and financial gain is a characteristic of all affiliations.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:50 | 4488171 headhunt
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Trust me - those idiots are full blooded leftist

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:50 | 4488397 Spumoni
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Stooge - this is what embattled politician-whores do when their corporate overlords tell them to. Left or Right mean nothing now. Stay off the Kool-aid, you might see things better.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:02 | 4488205 chubbar
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Hagel's worried about sovereignty? Oh that's fucking rich! Where the fuck is he while we are bombing women and children at wedding parties over there in Pakistan?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:25 | 4488280 headhunt
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Hagel is an idiot which is why the left appointed him to his position

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:51 | 4488410 Spumoni
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He's driving the drone, of course. Saturday afternoon afternoon at the races for generals.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:13 | 4488099 Börjesson
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To conduct a nation's foreign policy over Facebook seems a bit ... lacking in gravitas, perhaps.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:20 | 4488113 johnQpublic
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what better format for selfie dick measuring contest?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:25 | 4488123 headhunt
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Putin would not like that - why do you think he is so angry all the time.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:32 | 4488305 Boomberg
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Yes Twitter is much more effective and professional for conducting foreign policy and dick selfies. Also Twitter is great for stock price manipulation. Ask Carl Icahn.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:35 | 4488141 redwater
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#war

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:07 | 4488225 shovelhead
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Online surveys show that posting cute lolcat pics can soften the most tendentious relationships.

The alternative is Lurch, and he ain't no lolcat.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:34 | 4488312 Maximilien Robe...
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How soon will Anonymous take over it's first country when they hack his facebook account?

Wonder if it's "verified".

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:15 | 4488104 wmbz
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I sncerely believe the last thing Vlad is worried about is Barry. He read Barry right off the bat as a spineless punk. Next we will have Lurch Kerry call for NATO to send in some blue helmets. Bottom line, game set match to Russia.

Barry will roll up a blunt and hit some drought stricken golf course.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:26 | 4488125 ThisIsBob
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Ellison can't afford water?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:43 | 4488157 ravinglawyer
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POTUS =/= Assad. I would put money on it that we don't even flinch when the tanks start rolling in. Worst case scenario they pull a Yugo and split, or Putin manages to wind up consolidating the whole damn country again. Poor timing IMHO, why didn't he do this two weeks ago? Maybe the Olympics were that big of a deal to him...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:56 | 4488438 Spumoni
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You're right of course, William. But he'll be playing with Bush and Cheney. When exactly are these stupid bastards going to face trial (all of 'em, I mean)?

You know, fuck these guys. Who are they to drive the planet into war? Who are they to violate every law, treaty and code of decency ever devised? Who gives these criminal inflitrators the right to fuck everybody's already short life up?

I'll tell you who- we do. And its high fucking time we took their rights away.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:35 | 4488699 Proofreder
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Don't think B O rolls his own ...

that takes some degree of skill.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:16 | 4488107 Sufiy
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Dollar Crashes Below 80.00, Euro Breaks $1.38 - Somebody Read James Rickards' Book "The Death Of Money" Already 


 We have quite a morning today. In the early trading hours US Dollar was crashed below the all-important 80.00 level to 79.84 and Euro has broken $1.38 level. With all the ongoing Currency Wars and China pushing Yuan down Gold Demand is going strongly up. Now recent increase in demand for Gold to the record numbers in China can be put in another perspective. 


 23h Stronger & as explained in Ch 5 & Ch 9 of . Just back from the printers in NY

  Somebody has read James Rickards' new book "The Death Of Money" and playing along with it. As we have noted before, Ukraine is another battle to be lost by the US dollar as The Reserve Currency of Choice. Who is selling US Treasuries today? Is it only angry Russia or is it China raising cash to Buy Barrick Gold's vault in the ground at Pascua Lama?    Now with Yuan pushed down and US Dollar going down after the highest number on record of Chinese selling US Treasuries, Gold has no other way but to go much higher. Short squeeze will help, as some banks were encouraging to sell gold again after this very initial advance, after bottoming in 2013. We have seen nothing here yet. The Mother of Short Squeeze in Gold and, particular, in Silver is still to come.  

Ukraine, Syria And Global De-Dollarization: USD To Go Down And Gold Up TNR.v MUX RGLD GDX GLD ABX

 

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/dollar-crashes-below-8000-euro-break...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:57 | 4488184 Aussiekiwi
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Yes, war good for Gold, but US dollar will continue to benefit over the medium term due to the flow of cash back to the US with the ongoing taper.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:20 | 4488112 Debugas
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I bet Putin does not know what Facebook is

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:28 | 4488130 nonclaim
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It is like the kgb files but it is open and people put all their updated photos, activity and associations by themselves. #winning

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:45 | 4488162 Maximilien Robe...
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The inverse is also true, by the state simply saying "who is NOT using Facebook" you are immediately more suspect because you cognitively have made the decision NOT to give the state your 411 willingly.

No Facebook account? +1 state interest.

No Google search history?  +1 state interest.

No Yahoo webcam porn history? +1 state interest.

No iPhone? +10 state interest.

Internet service with no DNS history +50

Grow your own food? +100

Ham radio license w/ FCC? +500

Licensed gun owner +1000

The fact you are not behaving like the others raises suspicion when the herd is all behaving and willingly giving up 100% of their liberties.  These days, when the state doesn't have a dossier on you it means they have a dossier on you.

 

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:21 | 4488586 Hephaestus
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Well put sir. We used to look down on all the police states. Now we have become one. Remember FireFox

http://youtu.be/Y0BmrPrEm7g

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:54 | 4488179 Aussiekiwi
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I would not bet on that, but I would bet that he does not give a stuff about what people on Facebook think.

Bet he knows about this though

 

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/612921/Ukraine/30105/Resources...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:23 | 4488117 doggis
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WHAT DOES SYRIA AND UKRAINE HAVE IN COMMON?

ANSWER: GAS PIPELINES OWNED BY GAZPROM.

SYRIA OVERTHROW BY USSA FOR SAUDI CONTROL OF MIDDLE EAST GAS PIPLEINES HEADED TO EUROPE HAS MORPHED!

I PREDICT YANTUCHOVICK CLAIMS HIMSELF THE TRULY ELECTED PRESIDENT, AND AS TRULY ELECTED PRESIDENT REQUESTS RUSSIA'S HELP IN RE-ESTABLISHING HIS DEMOCRATIC POSITION AS PRESIDENT, AND REQUESTS HELP FROM RUSSIA TO RESTORE DEMOCRATIC ORDER.

CHECK MATE!

HMMM.....OH YES, AND WATCH FOR SOME INTERESTING/UNEXCPECTED REFINERY EXPLOSIONS IN SAUDIA ARABIA AND HIGH LEVEL DEATHS AT THE HOUSE OF SAUD.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:51 | 4488174 Doña K
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You can make a good movie out of this.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:24 | 4488120 deerhunter
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all we need now is a spark.  I was in a crowd leaving a fireworks display in Detroit in the mid 80's.  If I recall correctly it was some kind of Canada-US celebration.  It was shoulder to shoulder people and not a cop in site.  There were 3 quick loud pops and someone yelled "gun."  And just like that it was bedlam with people being trampled,  punched,, kicked and general mayhem for five or more minutes.  I think we are at that place of order just before someone yells "gun."  Maybe if we all just keep our heads in the sand a little longer and watch more Dancing with the Stars nothing will happen.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:16 | 4489988 general ambivalent
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Yes, same as WWI, the cause happened long before the historically blamed cause. Assassination was just a spark that lit the material build up for war. You don't enclose a building (territory, ie the ME and Russia) with weaponry of all types, expand the production of war, and finance into the infinite for nothing. The building must go down.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:24 | 4488121 Peace is the x-axis
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"[More than 80] Combat helicopters of Russian Western Military District head to emergency airfields during drills"

http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=484789

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TVyPiHVZ1A

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:36 | 4488144 Peace is the x-axis
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18m

Look who turned up at entrance to Balaclava bay. Balaclava now.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:22 | 4488269 Fuh Querada
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nothing to get all ying-yang about (yet)

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:25 | 4488122 shitco.in
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Have any of you actually ever been to Simferopol or Crimea at all?  Some of these comments are straight stupid... there is a much more going on there..

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:45 | 4488163 Ignatius
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Most of us ZH oldtimers were in Crimea yesterday after our power lunch with Putin.  Catch up. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:46 | 4488164 Ignatius
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.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:04 | 4488211 rsnoble
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So then tell us what's going on since you know it all.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:31 | 4488133 jerry_theking_lawler
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Assasination of the Ukrainian president at the press conference...would ignite a war.....but that is so 20th century.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:33 | 4488139 ravinglawyer
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Did anyone expect less from Putin? Warm water port, weak kneed US, and nat. gas pipeline make for a pretty compelling reason for Russia to treat this much more aggressively than Cuba. Nobody in the EU is going to do shit. We won't do shit because of the last two wars. Ukrainians CAN'T do shit. So...Russia is going to shit all over them because they can. The strong do what they will and the weak bear what they must. I feel for the average Ukranian...

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:49 | 4488170 Aussiekiwi
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There will be no war, Russia will slowly free the Russian people in East Ukraine, maybe the rest depending upon external resistance which will be just verbal, after all it will be played as being for the good of the people, law and order etc.

 

Russia can take its time, just slowly keep winding up the pressure, Europe and the US lack the will to do anything but threaten.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:29 | 4488292 headhunt
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"Russia will slowly free the Russian people in East Ukraine"

Now that is funny!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:35 | 4488142 Peter Pan
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Whatever the faults of Russia in this matter, there is one question that remains in my mind......why would Russia allow a clearly hostile section of the Ukrainian population take control over ALL of the Ukraine including Russophiles and then wake up one morning to find that Europe or the US has set up missile launches along the border with Russia?

A further question is why is Europe so interested in bringing such a broken and indebted economy into Europe at a time when Europe is barely managing to keep its own act going?

 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:58 | 4488190 Ignatius
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"A further question is why is Europe so interested in bringing such a broken and indebted economy into Europe..."

Being a slumlord can be profitable so long as you don't mind the smell and the rats.  It's not sexy, but it's a living.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 14:50 | 4490197 general ambivalent
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Just speculation here, but is it not a strategy of the war which cannot go hot? War is peace and peace is war so the nations have to act in such a way. The US cannot go into these nations directly, it must destabilise and hope that the resources are still there when the region stabilises. It is possible as well that rather than taking the resources that might otherwise be Russian they can only destroy them, like the burning oilfields in Iraq it is still financing something, if only in the negative.

Russia is perhaps willing to receive some of this damage to make clear who the aggressor is, it can survive and may actually come out on top as much of the world has had enough of American occupation. RT is obviously in keeping with this as it promotes 'conspiracy theory' news to offset the American offical conspiracy news. If a hot war starts up then America is clearly the bad guy and Russia is the noble defender. It is a traditional nation-state vs. an ultramodern economic-warstate.

The money is not real, if you look at scienctific discourse it is called Civilisation Type I, in conspiracy it is the NWO, and in pop-culture it's the Elysium. Money is just an abstraction for controlling the populace. Michio Kaku, who knows how wrapped up he is in this but it is nonetheless telling, says that either we will survive to become a Civilisation Type I or we will not survive at all. A Civilisation Type I is a world system that can harvest all the world's energy and is controlling the world's environmental systems, and taking the first steps through space colonisation to becoming a Civilisation Type II and then III. Whether you believe in climate change or the conspiracy side of things there is no doubt that the governments and deep economy are planning for this, they realise such control is necessary for their continuation. The American strategy really feeds into this all or nothing mentality of world domination, all tradition must be destabilised and a deep world system created.

When you think about what this mentality means it comes down to this, the people who desire becoming Civilisation Type I do not consider us civilised. Anything less than a World System is barbaric, hence the right to wipe out the Middle East (you can see this clearly in the logic). We have science that believes we are living in computer code, google building an army of robots, complete fictionalisation of the economy, programs like the 2045 Initiative that want us to become post-human google avatars, increasing sociopathic destruction of the planet, and development of absolute surveillance. It should be clear that, whether formally or really, there is a plan for a world system. This post-MAD buildup to WWIII that is so carnivalesque as to be cruel is quite telling I think.

That's a longwinded and very speculative way of saying that I think Russia is attempting to allow the West to destroy itself. It knows USNATO is desperate and self-destructive, that it is playing with fire and may just blow itself up. It's credibility is now next to zero outside of Oceania and approaches that even at home in some areas. The peace is war strategy on their side hopes for blowback so that the US loses allies and potentially even succumbs to the self-destructive civil war it has been fostering around the worls for the past 60+ years. A potential missile base on one's borders is not necessarily as bad as the effort put in, given the state of a MAD world.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:36 | 4488143 QuickFrozen
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It's just a fucking Russcism = Russia + Fascism.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:42 | 4488156 Quinvarius
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It is a response to the purposeful Western destabilization of Ukraine.  I ask you this:  Name one place the West has come in and destabilized, for the purpose of furthering the Dollar's lifespan, in the last 10 years, that is not still a destabilized hellhole.  Western bankers don't govern.  They break and pillage.  They leave things broken and valueless.  Russia is making the correct response to protect their interests.  The fact is they are holding back quite a bit...so far. 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:49 | 4488169 Peter Pan
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Exactly. +100.

And the terrible record the US has in relation to these incursions and interferences leads one to conclude that they are either suckers for punishment, stupid or simply feeding the military industrial complex without regard for the results they attain.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:37 | 4488326 headhunt
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The US did not learn its lesson from Vietnam; never, ever let a politician run any aspect of a war or 'police action', you will lose every time.

If you are going to war, let the military conduct the full on ugliness of war or stay the F' out!

All they politicians manage to do is maim and kill more of our own and then we apologize for hurting the enemies feelings.

F' the politicians, left and right, in any combat situation. Remember Vietnam, hell remember Benghazi!

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:49 | 4488393 Ignatius
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The primary lesson from Vietnam was that we had no fucking business being there.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:58 | 4488448 headhunt
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First, thank the French for starting and not finishing what they started - I know, they're French what else.

Not just vietnam; but Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, insert section of world here _________

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 15:44 | 4494155 Pseudonymous
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So I don't see anything that is in disagreement with QuickFrozen's simple observation that this is Russian fascism in action.

From your comment it is not apparent that you understand and agree that Russia is indeed governed by a fascist state. I would agree with you that in Russia the executive branch is probably the dominant force, rather than the banks, as is the case in western fascism, but it is still fascism.

Now I hope you are not going to suggest that there is anything actually desirable about the Russian version of fascism.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:16 | 4488381 superflex
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What would the United States do if Mexico's government was suddenly overthrown by forces opposed to the US?

Would they not scramble assets to the region.

Dont be so naive.

 

Edit,

I have not seen any proof that these are Russian forces or the frigate in the bay of Balaclava is enforing a blockade.  Pure speculation and more likely opposition optics.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:41 | 4488153 esum
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obama will draw another red line.... a few feet behind his previous red line.... 

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:44 | 4488159 Aussiekiwi
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Please, the US has no will to get involved militarily in the Ukraine, Kerry can warn and threaten all he wants, the Russians know this, they will just keep adding on the pressure, they only want the east Ukraine anyhow, that's where the Russians and resources are.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:55 | 4488160 Quinvarius
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How many armored divisions do Janet Yellen and Mario Draghi have?  None.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:39 | 4488335 headhunt
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I did not know they have etch-a-sketch that draws in color.

Must be new technology.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:45 | 4488165 Peter Pan
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What men cannot resolve nature often will. California is going through a terrible drought that one paleoclimatologist said could turn into a 200 year drought. I think that would have a mighty big impact on the US economy as was the devestation of Fukushima on Japan.

Nature is also bringing Chinese cities to a standstill and it is also a question of time before air pollution gives rise to massive health problems and scares.

Brazil is also going through a very bad drought as are parts of Australia.

I repeat.....nature will act eventually if man cannot use his God given brain to expend his energies on non-aggressive pursuits.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:22 | 4488262 Maximilien Robe...
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Friday musical interludes.

https://soundcloud.com/afrizen/nature-bats-last

 

Nature Bats Last - Lyrics

Mother Nature, Mother Nature, she's gonna getcha
Yeah she's gonna getcha

Mother Nature, she's grown to hate'cha and she's gonna get'cha
Gonna get'cha ya bet'cha

She bats last and she's comin' out swingin'
She bats last and she's just about taken
All that she can take

Now it's payback time Mother (Nature) fuckers
It's payback time

For the strip-mined land, for the poisoned seas
For the acid rain, for another dead species
For GMO, for uranium ore
For screwing your kids for a few dollars more

Now it’s payback time Mother (Nature) fuckers
It’s payback time

“The living planet is about to make a comeback, and that’s really, really good news”

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 10:55 | 4488851 Proofreder
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And then there's this ...

Oh, what did you see, my blue eyed son?
And what did you see, my darling young one?
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin'
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin'
I saw a white ladder all covered with water
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard ...

It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 09:41 | 4488349 headhunt
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Mother nature just 'does' and has no regard for man or creature - it is just nature.

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:47 | 4488166 news printer
Fri, 02/28/2014 - 15:19 | 4490330 silvermail
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"Ukraine imposed restrictions on the withdrawal of dollar deposits"

What is that, in the current situation, you meant by the word "Ukraine":

- Illegitimate government rebels impostors, in the face of criminals who seized power in Kiev undemocratic, unconstitutional, by armed force?

- Or regions, that remained faithful to the Constitution and laws, the democratically elected President of Ukraine?

How do you think: Should there be rebels who committed an armed coup in Ukraine, arrested and prosecuted?

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:50 | 4488172 PoorMan429
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Russian brand of slavery vs western brand  of slavery.  

Fri, 02/28/2014 - 08:57 | 4488185 Johnny Cocknballs
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How do we know they are Russian, again?

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