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And The Person Who Foresaw It All Is...
The was a time when everyone loved making fun of GOP vice presidential canidate Sarah Palin. It's her turn to get the final laugh.
As CBS recounts, in October 2008, after Russia's invasion of neighboring Georgia emerged as a foreign policy flashpoint in the homestretch of a heated campaign, Palin told an audience in Nevada, "After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next."
Just as amusing was the response to Palin's comments by foreign policy experts, Foreign Policy magazine, which said, "As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel."
Coming just a few months after subprime turned out not to be contained despite everyone's fervent belief that it was, this is not all that surprising.
And now it's time to gloat: "I'm usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate prediction being derided as 'an extremely far-fetched scenario' by the 'high-brow' Foreign Policy magazine," Palin wrote Friday.
"Here's what this 'stupid,' 'insipid woman' predicted in 2008," she added, before rehashing her prediction.
Talk radio host Mark Levin tweeted, "Palin not only knows where Russia is, but she knew what Putin would do to Ukraine with Obama as president."
Then again, back in 2008 a lot of people were also talking about hope and change. Five years later people have to look up the definition of hope, as for change, the best place to find it is in the 11 million people who have dropped out of the labor force in that time.
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She saw it all from her front porch, bitchez
My first question is . . .
Did she also see the massive manipulation of the world's financial markets by the oligarchs?
If so, what publication reported that little gem?
Just asking . . .
You mean this guy 'foresaw' it all:
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Scheunemann_Randy
Palin, Obama, I mean, are these ruling elites fucking with us or what?!?!
Somebody's gotta "represent" the people and I'd damn well prefer her above any of the Democrat Marxist Cloward Pivonites out there, even if the worst of it is a more Fabian approach.
And my gut tells me that she's more of a Libertarian/Tea Partyite who wouldn't carry the Establishment's water than most folks give her credit for.
Betcha she's smarter, more decisive and tougher than your average community organizer... or his successor...
Jesus, people....
Why else would the media have launched such an effective charachter(competence?) assassination against her?
I don't know I'm just asking.
Because she's a fucking idiot dressed in the flag spewing NeoCon banker propaganda. For fuck's sake, is this the Twilight Zone?
But she is hot. She coulda been a stripper when she was younger.
She's been a NeoCon banker/MIC/oil company whore all along. I am frankly shocked at the outpouring of support for her among many regulars here. Fuck it.
Is it support for her, or the surprise at the pavlovian response to this post?
No snark, no sarcasm, just a question...
It's the support. I thought most of the regulars here were way beyond the Team bullshit. Palin is a cheerleader for the Red Team and was on the big ticket with the biggest most blatant NeoCon since Cheney. She is the poster child for wrapping propaganda in a wink and a twinkle. Even insiders in her campaign complained about her ignorance. I was mostly blind to the propaganda until several years ago, but how anyone here could be blind to it even today makes me lose faith in this site.
So, out of curiosity, what changed your mind several years ago?
9/11 started it. Then I started reading beyond what was spoon fed to me, and stopped listening to MSM. Obama sealed the deal.
You are OK for a lefty. You are our Alan Colmes. We need you.
Alan Colmes was controlled, watered down opposition for a helmet hair NeoCon. And you don't get that, which says everything I need to know about you.
Come on, I am pulling your leg. We are all screwed...we need some levity.
Sorry, Fred. Testy tonight. And I'm not having a gay old time notwithstanding the testy reference.
8 year olds dude.
I have been a reader of this site for about a year and only signed up recently to ask you a question about one of your posts. This site has really opened my eyes to things that I could not have understood by just going through the motions of my daily life.
Same here about this site (in its former glory) opening my eyes. These days it just reveals that Sarah Palin is revered by faux libertarians who like 40 something chicks who wear tight outfits.
Same here about this site (in its former glory) opening my eyes. These days it just reveals that Sarah Palin is revered by faux libertarians who like 40 something chicks who wear tight outfits.
These days it just reveals that Sarah Palin is hated by misoginsts who hate women like LetThemEatRand who like 40 something men who wear tight outfits.
You are such a cunt. Shut up, you fucking troll.
merizobeach, You are such a cunt. Shut up, you fucking troll.
Mirror, mirror, who's the troll?
Mirror, mirror, who's the troll?
Looks like FredFlinstone is the troll looking in the mirror!
Welcome to reality bitchez...
Draw close to the flames and bask in the glow.
Oh boy...
hate that damn sentence: told ya so...
she's so RIGHT !
Oh boy !
cunt troll
Ctrl
they have their own button.
That's just crazy talk. But hey, I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But here's my number,
So call me, maybe?
What do you have against people who support 40 something MILFs? You're either a mother or a father if you know that song so there's a chance you're a 40 something MILF too!
Sylvia, that is not very nice. Someone might get the idea you are a misandrist the way you are bashing some of us who are having a little fun tonight.
Fred Flinstone that is not very nice. Someone might get the idea you are a misandrist the way you are bashing some of us who are having a little fun tonight.
Ah shut the fuck up.
Hey, its Saturday night. It has been a long winter for many of us and some of us are just havin some fun.
+1 on all your above comments.
I agree with you completely.
Thanks, Anusocracy. We may disagree on many things, but we agree on more than is obvious.
We do. Deconstructing government occurs differently in those inclined to attempt it.
A lot of otherwise intelligent people still cling to the illusion that things would get better if only, somehow, the right politician were elected. This also presupposes faith in the political system and, indeed, faith in political solutions.
It's even worse than that. Palin is a NeoCon. A lot of people here who claim to be libertarians revealed themselves as anything but.
It's even worse than that. Palin is a NeoCon. A lot of people here who claim to be libertarians revealed themselves as anything but.
Gawd, here we go with inane labels that LTER heard on MSNBC.
You must be a troll spreading disinformation or you should do a little research into what has been driving events the past decade or so.
You must be a troll spreading disinformation or you should do a little research into what has been driving events the past decade or so.
FredFlintstone the old troll is up date on what has been driving events the past decade or so--he only listens to Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow on MSNBC!
@sylviasays
..And just how IS the weather in Cheltenham?
Yes, but how? If anything, she was supported through her governorship specifically to lose with McRino.
She wasn't put throught the same institutions as all the other D/R club rats, and definitely isn't part of the "brotherhood."
Hell, on a micro level, I would trust her to manage a small jurisdiction with limited resources, far better than 99% of Congress.
On a micro level, I would vote for someone I know, not somoene presented to me as a persona by MSM.
OK, so be it. We have a Mexican standoff.
Signing out.
She almost divided ZH'rs half 'n' half.
That you would waste your time voting says all we should need to hear about you, but yet here you are thinking anyone cares about your sob story.
LTER,
You are a douchebag, who adds NOTHING tothe converstion, ever!
Doesn't take much to bring out the liberal faggots on this site..........
You know, you really are collectivist asshole you know that right? You are labelling everyone as being Libertarian when there is actually only like three of us on this site. Your ilk are the majority here Rand, not mine.
Then again, you wouldn't understand what it's like to be alone, you've been a bandwagon supporter all your life.
Let me guess, you are the guy holding all of the Feb JCP $6 puts?
Don't worry about LETR, he has a hard on for every one. however nothing I've ever read by him is positive.
Oh it gets better.
Oscars are coming up tomorrow, there's a snippet of LTER's movie watching habits down below...no mention of bread & circuses or Hollywood gazillionaires, great fun there.
I'm waiting with bated breath myself, on the reporting of who wore what and emerged with who from the limo and got interviewed by who & where and thanked all the little people everywhere who spent an inordinate amount of money to place them in their lap of luxury...LTER will fill us in on all of it.
Whatever happened to Freddie and his hatin' on Hollywood?
it's positively awful. he bitches about how ZH sucks now when he is one of the reasons it does. all of the good ones are gone -Trav 777, Mako, Francis Sawyer, Bank Guy From Brussels, etc.
ZH banned them, not me.
ZH banned them, not me.
Gawd, LTER dontcha know banning posters is part of a vast right wing conspiracy?
Bonapartist said:
Go fuck yourself, mister 1 week 2 days echo chamber cheerleader. If you disagree with him, argue your points.
The day everyone here agrees is the day this site dies.
Thank you....
Zerohedge has been dead for a year already. It just hasn't dawned on anyone yet.
on that day, you either saw towers fall, or towers taken down.
"you either get Heisenberg, or you dont." - Meatwad
Since I'm a bit longer in the tooth than most on ZH, extrapolating from the stream of comments, I have to say that for me the changing of my mind about the federal government and corporate establishment started with queasiness and disgust with LBJ, which got a whole lot stronger with that certifiable criminal Nixon, developed an overwhelming feeling of nausea with "Jimmy boy" Carter, turned into a raging headache with Reagan, developed into chronic dysentry with Bush 1, proceeded to projectile vomiting with Clinton, degraded into uncontrollable hysterical laughing with Bush 2, and has now descended into free-ranging homicidal fantasies with Obama.
Fuck me, I'm not even that old and I knew better when I was 18 after reading about Barry Goldwater. You could have skipped the BS life history lesson and caught up a long time ago.
Palin actually did take on the oil companies, I thought she was famous for that?
I highly doubt she's the outright neocon you're claiming.
People on all sides got to get their facts together or the discussion gets totally absurd.
That she took on the oil companies is also propaganda. What she did is try to get more money for her voters while fighting hard to open up more places for them to drill. Politics.
That she took on the oil companies is also propaganda. What she did is try to get more money for her voters while fighting hard to open up more places for them to drill. Politics.
Politics like when Obama threw taxpayer money at solar companies and then got campaign contributions from those companies? Or when he threw taxpayer money at the TBTF banks and then got campaign contributions from them?
LTER, don't be discouraged by your fellow man's confusion. These are very confusing times where up is down and left is right. So, Palin made a prediction that proved right 6 years later. She obviously had done her homework. Doesn't change the fact that she is as you correctly pointed out just carrying water for the same establishment that decided to lift Obama into power.
Maybe TPTB liked her prediction and thought, Obama is the tool to get us into a "nice" hot war where lots of windows will be broken.
Cui bono semper est idem
"She obviously had done her homework.”
What the fuck?! Did it occur to anyone that the comment about Ukraine might have been scripted and she was just delivering it? (Scripted, perhaps, by the same warmongers that just drew Russia into war as punishment for Syria?)
Maybe, maybe not, one things for sure, you sure as hell don't know.
Well, here's what I do know: you spent you career as a loyal, diligent tax-payer, supporting all the wars and corruption, and voting in favor of your own oppression. Your credibility is exactly jack fucking shit, so STFU.
"Well, here's what I do know: you spent you career as a loyal, diligent tax-payer, supporting all the wars and corruption, and voting in favor of your own oppression. Your credibility is exactly jack fucking shit, so STFU."
At least harleyjohn45 was a diligent taxpayer, unlike merizobeach who is a lazy SOB living off the taxpayers on the bankrupt Democrat entitlement plantation!
You're such an arrogant cunt. If you had been here for more than a few weeks, you might have known that I left the USuckAss over half my life ago, and after having made a political contribution. Have you ever contributed to society, (you stupid whore)?
Do you talk to your mother like that before or after you beat her?
Contributing to one's own society is something that should be done out of ability and charity rather than demand and guilt tripping.
Go fuck yourself you statist turd, and go back to whereever you came from.
She's a bimbo of the lowest order. Right down there with Obonzo.
I've disagreed with many of your comments in the past, mostly the ones I percieved had a "hopeless" outlook. But on the Red Team/Blue Team thing, 100% agreement. And if we agree on just one thing, I believe that would be the most important one. Hell, I really wonder what would happen to the planet if all everyone would agree on was that fact.....
Saturday is drink n post night. Everbody will be hugging eachother tomorrow.
That has been true for a long time. But I for one won't be here tomorrow. I'll miss it even if it won't miss me.
Stick around, Rand.
I appreciate the sentiment and I've said I'm leaving before but man.
Stick around. Walk it off. I still have that Gene Hackman movie with his bottle of Cutty Sark on his desk saved to favorites. So..people do read your posts.
Ha! I do love that movie. Watched it the first time in college on Spring Break in FL in 1980 something after eating some things that were not necessarily legal, and for some reason it stuck with me.
Funny how things stick in our memories. Gottah run. I look forward to reading your posts...next week.
Mushrooms pizzas are like getting bubble gum off the floor. Very sticky.
P.S. Not Hackman. Robert Loggia. Though that particular night I did order the Pizza. But I didn't swallow.
Shit, your not going anywhere, you have employes to underpay, estates to steal from hard workers and a many more scripted talking points to spew. At most he/she will be back as lickmisesass
I appreciate the sentiment and I've said I'm leaving before but man.
Gawd, leave already!
Can't take the heat, then get your ass out of the kitchen!
This site is all yours. Literally.
Says the prissy little cunt who has been here how long? Shut your ignorant hole, bitch.
Do you talk to your mother that way before or after you beat her?
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I understand what you're saying. As retarded the weekends here have been lately, the Tylers did a very good job today with updates regarding the Ukrainian situation.
Then, out of nowhere, weekend-Tyler squats down and drops off this brown owl about neocon clairvoyance, and before you know it, its ripe odor begins to draw flies like sylviasays.
"the Tylers did a very good job today with updates regarding the Ukrainian situation"
Yes, indeed they did! Bar none, they were right there first and foremost! ^5 TheFourthStooge-ing for calling that out :)
But, I dissagree with your calling this a 'brown owl'
This is no more than an ordinary, everday American citizen exercising her right to criticise an incompetent government.
Pretty sure almost all topics have their own specific trolls.
We have Flak for global warming BS, Rand for the partisan political BS, and some other clowns for various other things. It's been the gradual depletion of the financial intelligence here that has been apalling, and it's been the Tylers banning those said people.
Like I said above, Zerohedge has been dead for about a year, and it simply has not realized it yet. This site hasn't broke a huge story since last spring.
People that used to post real financial commentary got driven off by cyber bullying or just took one look at the blantant anti-semitism and bigotry and dropped this place like a sack of wet shit...
Hell I used to do all kinds of posts on junior miners...
The site got overwhelmed by know nothing shits like you more than willing to shout down anyone that disagreed with you...
BTW, you are a member of the real AGW troll club...
Deal with it...
Yeah, please do stick around. Whatever your politics I'm at least reasonably confident that you are a living, breathing, human being somewhere in the world. I can't say the same for every poster on this or any other (politically inclined) site and as agent Cohn said in the X-Files "Everything is political, Agent Dales."
Check this out. I think it would be naieve to imagine that the same entrenched powers that invest money in shaping opinion through traditional media channels wouldn't think to do the same online. It may even be a more efficient way to do it. It's kind of a terrifying thought really, that TPTB whoever they may be could use google bubbles to deliver computer generated, personalised propaganda mind control to nearly everyone on the planet.
see here and here.
And the sort of trolling you're recieving on this site that's making you want to leave, how sophisticated is it? Couldn't be done in AI? I can't be sure.
The BIS was established 24 years and two months before Lord of the Rings was published. I take the view that the Lord of the Rings is a warning about coming wars to establish a one world currency or coin or ring in much the same way that the Wizard of Oz was a warning about the perils of paper money and the Federal Reserve hence my eye-of-sauron-over-the-BIS avatar. What necessitated the abandonment of the gold standard? Military expenditure during the cold war perhaps? If Kennedy was assasinated or his assasination was "allowed" to happen by powers that could potentially have prevented it, why? If WTC was an inside job or, again, allowed to happen by powers that could potentially have prevented it, why?
I remember reading somewhere online that Obama supposedly said, when asked why he wasn't sticking to his election pledges, "Look what happened to MLK" and thinking, "Yeah, MLK became a hero to people of all colours, creeds and gender affiliations the world over, what are you gonna do?"
There are two videos that I would like to share and recieve thoughts on, from anyone. trollomatic-9000s included.
First here, then here. Notice that Naval Admirals presentation was filmed before the Snowden leaks.
Although such a scenario would be extremely annoying, don't be so nervous about opinion being reshaped. If you're at all intelligent, take the propaganda and analyze it, investigate it and then formulate an opinion. You should not take anything on this or any site as factual, merely heresay.
And I'm inclined to think the site has changed significantly in tone as the ABC part of the machine takes over and diverts what was a truth seeking venture into a toothless propaganda machine.
Ukraine posts or not, there are too many other posts which are just so fucking wacky, like this one, that makes me believe the site is being undermined to become more useless, like all of the rest of MSM.
Time will tell, and I'm a true nomad anyway, so i'll just continue my search elsewhere should my speculation be correct.
I'm disappointed but not at all surprised that so many mainstays / regulars are writing what they're writing, but it just shows how deep the brainwashing runs.
I watched the 2 videos, nice share. Thanks for the links. I agree with aspects of the first video, but I have other thoughts for some solutions. He's trying to define the future but clinging way too much to the past / present. Second video, I don't trust anything from TED, it's just a controlled avenue for TPTB to deploy propaganda to control those who think they're the vanguard. Everything I've ever heard on TED has made me want to shut it down, useless ideas, no real solutions, timid bullshit intended to maintain the power over you. I would avoid their shit, but it's up to you. My suggestion, don't worry so much about restoring the nations greatness, just work on trying to solve the global humanitarian problem. Problem solved. I.e., don't just listen to operatives of the machine, listen to people who are not at all interested in preserving a machine.
ABC Media =/= ABC the Network. They are two completely different companies and are not actually related.
RLTW, well except in your case.
But she's hot. What are you gay?
Fred, I'm gonna tell you the gods-honest-truth here. She's hot. She's also a bag of hammers.
I've cracked a few one-liners here on ZH myself that could be, in retrospect, interpreted so that I look like a genius. Like when I said that Germany finally took over Europe without firing a shot by way of the debt crisis across southern Europe (a sea of red arrows followed). Or when I said that Russia wasn't going to let the Ukraine brush them off because having control of a warm-water port was a thing with them since forever (not so many red arrows, but nobody was really on board with the idea either).
Oooo look.... I'm a genius, a psychic, a visionary! Nothing could be further from the truth. I added 2+2 and got 4. On the rare occiasion it actually equals 4 (which is almost never), it's still not that great a feat. Anyone with a room-tememperature IQ could do the same.
Still, I'd tap that ass.
FUCK PALIN AND FUCK SYLVIA
TYLERS NEED TO FIRE WHOEVER POSTED THIS ARTICLE OVER AND OUT
Why does the hypocritical neo-Marxist fascist left always want to silence anyone they disagree with? Why do gay nazis hate straight women?
How profound. Any more quandries socrates? I will silence you after im balls deep down your pie hole. Your aim is to destroy fight club.. Not on my watch. I will force you backt o hell where u came from slut
Who in the fuck are you?
They need to fire themselves?
Clearly this isnt normal scripture for this venue. I am telling you something is a miss here tonight.
Point taken.
I'm with you. I am convinced this is a clear indication of the intentional marginalization of this site and the kinds of discourse that occurs here. This is a not so subtle dumbing down of the site, and expect to see much more of this as the tolerance builds. Within 6 months to 1 year, this site may become like CNN CNBS, or perhaps even ABC. Useless controlled drivel.
I say it died a year ago when they decided to ban some of the more intelligent posters whom shared a large quantity of information no questions asked. The reasoning? One of the Tyler's said they were making anti-semetic comments.
RE: maskone
To paraphraise Eazy-E...
MOTHERFUCK PALIN! MOTHERFUCK OBAMA! MOTHERFUCK TEAM BLUE AND RED! HERE COMES MY DEAD BLOW!
Still, I'd tap that ass.
You do have some Zithromax, right?
One in the Morning and one at night will cure the problem afterward.
If you're saying we should take her seriously so she'll rip off her shirt and press those jugs slowly, slowly, against us, up and down, back and forth, while her hands are busy down below...
But if you're just saying we should take her seriously, are you gay?
LTER, another thing I don't get about the whole her being right about Putin walking all over Obama thing is that so what if she was right? And so what if puti did it knowing Obama wouldn't do anything about it. Many on this sight applauding this were, like myself, Ron Paul supporters. Would Putin not have made the same call about him? Putin would know damn well that RP wouldn't react with military force to this, and we would(should) have said great, it's damn sure not out fight, not one American should lose their life for this kind of shit. I mean, WTF do we want Obama to do about? Launch missiles, some drone strikes? Fuck that, not our problem
I could not agree more. RP woulld not have allowed the CIA to stoke the fight and this quandry would not exist. Even if it did (because Isreal or MIC created the problem without Presidential input) RP would have correctly said "not our fight."
good luck finding answers to your questions. i've been asking the same thing for an hour and i'm done.
Talk about Cognitive Dissonance reading some of these posts about Obama not wanting to wage war.
Does someone just wait for you to post and instantly down vote everything you say within seconds or what? Jesus tap dancing Christ. And not one of these fuckers on here that seem to be cheer leading for us to 'do something' has been willing to step up and respond. And anyone who frequents this sight should know damn well that everytime the govt 'does something' it ALWAYS results in more dead people, and that is wrong. Seems pretty simple to me
This Palin thread reminds me that "America. FUCK YEAH!" is what many self-declared Libertarians on this site are really about.
This Palin thread reminds me that "America. FUCK YEAH!" is what many self-declared Libertarians on this site are really about.
So the Palin thread really gets under your skin? Have you always hated women?
I have. And you're a great example of why. Mindless drivel that just doesn't know when the fuck to shut up if you have no god damned point to make. Shut the fuck up already. Shut up. You are the worst kind of troll. Shut up.
Carl, I really appreciate your posts. As LTER said, we expect that RP would have never authorized the actions that have led up to this point in Ukraine, or the middle east, so the dilemma about what Obama ought to do is not directly equivilant.
Obama is one of the guilty organizers of this new war and charade, (and therefore the best thing he could do for the world would be to call a new SOTU address and walk in with an extra-high-powered suicide-vest, after sending Biden to the SCOTUS with the same message). There are no lesser enemies of humanity among Obama, Putin, Netanyahu, Xi, or even Bandar or Alexander.
Since there is nothing that government can do "for" us, and we can't stop them from acting against us, perhaps the best option in this situation is that we each offer what reasonable support we can, if any, to any victims of this conflict whom we may encounter. But that's a pretty hollow statement unless one is there, on the ground, helping refugees or something of that nature, and of course extremely few people are a position to offer real humanitarian support. So, short of that, the least any Americans could do--rather than calling on government to act, which is inherently counterproductive--is to stop personally feeding the war machine with their taxes, votes, and labor. The responsibility in this, and any, scenario is with each individual.
As an aside, I understand that such a dissociation is a difficult transition for people of ambiguous or negligible moral considerations, just as it is very difficult for people in America to see a bigger picture if they have never left the continent. But there's no excuse. Sovereignty starts with individuals, as does responsibility. I've rambled off topic, but have a good one, Carl.
"rather than calling on government to act, which is inherently counterproductive--is to stop personally feeding the war machine with their taxes, votes, and labor. The responsibility in this, and any, scenario is with each individual."
No doubt merizobeach doesn't even pay taxes now as a hateful anarchist living off of taxpayers on the bankrupt government entitlement plantation!
Ah, the stupid noisy whore has more to blather. Let's examine your psychological profile, shall we? Your comments seem to indicate you as being an overweight, unattractive, white female, about thirty years old, who is beginning to realize that with each passing year, ALL of the men of the world become progressively disinterested in hearing anything that you have to say. Would you say that's in the ballpark?
And with regard to your complete lack of insight, I don't live in the USuckAss, you stupid fucking bitch.
Did she really say equivalence ?
I supported her. I contunue to do so. She publically stated that the US Constitution mattered. Here's what I wrote in 2008 at nolanchart,com
"Who's Afraid of Sarah Palin, and Why?"
When Afraid, Attack is the Mantra. So who is afraid of Sarah Palin, and why are they afraid?
Two weeks ago we saw Barack Obama select Joe Biden, a senator with decades of experience as his vice presidential running mate. Senator Biden's experience has been advertised as the reason he is such a good running mate. In today's papers, details about how he fought for Israel. How did he fight? By casting votes in the Senate. By talking to his colleagues about how to vote.
Using this logic, I have been fighting for this nation for decades myself, talking to friends and families about how to vote for not just President, but local and state elections as well. If Sarah Palin wins, Joe Biden, and the rest of the career politicians who hold hope that if they just hang in there, play the game, then one day they may be called upon for a position such as Biden has been called will become big losers. If Sarah Palin wins, the career politicians lose.
The old school political establishment is at risk if Palin wins with John McCain. It means that you do not need to make a lifelong career of being a politician, wining and dining with lobbyists, to effectively run government. It then means that people such as you and I, who can read and follow a constitution, could be an effective leader. It means that if Sarah Palin wins, we all become potential winners. The potential is then based upon what we do with it.
The position of governor of a state should hold much more respect than being a Senator. There are 100 Senators. There are only 50 governors. Senators run for reelection once every 6 years-governors every four years. With Senators they can vote both ways on the same issue in their position-with Governors the buck stops with them. They do not get that luxury. If Sarah Palin wins, we can say State government trumps a lifetime of Federal Service.
The belief that government is highly complicated and that it is too difficult to do by a common citizen is at risk. Who has propagated that myth? Career politicians and lobbyists who have invested millions, that is who. If Sarah Palin wins, she proves that it is not so complicated that a determined individual cannot do an excellent job by FOLLOWING the Constitution. What a concept!
If Sarah Palin wins, lawyers lose. Can't we get away from lawyers as political leaders? Biden trained as a lawyer, Obama was a lawyer, the Clintons were lawyers. McCain is not a lawyer. Palin was a business student. Don't we want someone with business sense rather than ltigation sense leading our nation? Haven't lawyers done enough to our nation already?
And despite what some Libertarians worry about, if Sarah Palin wins, our movement will win. Candidates of the future will bring more of what the winners possessed to the table in 2012. If Sarah Palin wins, we will have more smaller government candidates in the future. (And if Obama/Biden win, we will have more big government American Promise candidates-because that is what it took to win)
If Sarah Palin wins, and is just a breath away from being President of the United States, then We, the People will win. In 2012, she just might be the candidate to beat for the position of President of the United States. And if that were to occur, that would be much sooner than we would have gotten a Constitution following, smaller government candidate in position to win the White House.
We wanted a shift in power in Washington. This is your chance. What are you going to do? Fantasize about what could have been? Hope things get worse before they get better and think the American people will shift big time in 2012? Can we afford the hit to our economy by Obama/Biden?
Am I afraid that Sarah Palin could be one breath away from being President? Hell no-I would be relieved.
So tell me how I can lose if Palin wins? When she wins, we will all win.
OK, not all of us. Those that have controlled our political processes will lose.
But I am OK with that. What about you?
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So if we had a POTUS why vetoed every piece of unconstitutional legislation passed over the last 5 years, would we be where we are today? Isn't that what we need? Someone to enforce the US Constitution?
"She publically stated that the US Constitution mattered."
So what? Do you think she's even actually read it? I seriously doubt it.
Hey man, I hear you on that level. You should read the ZH post discussing China's silent takeover of Zimbabwe and, then, be disgusted at some of the comments that support the idea that China is going to nurse the African (or any African, IMO) nation back to health (stability?). There are people whom truly believe that China is going to "provide" or "demonstrate" proper techniques of education, agriculture, finanace, and resource management for the Zimbabwe populace. I suggest that they read Confessions of an Economic Hitman, it is an easy starting point and a not-so-diffcult book to read.
" I am frankly shocked at the outpouring of support for [foreign Chinese policy] among many regulars here. Fuck it. "
Let the negative numbers begin...fuck all y'all
The only thing *I* don't understand is why you believe Palin to be any worse than for example Pelosi, Boxer, or Hillary.
Because I never saw you go postal over anybody here not painting those in the darkest black possible...
She could be a stripper now, but, she'd be blowing it on toot candy.
She could be a stripper now, but, she'd be blowing it on toot candy.
Sort of like your mother?
You been here a couple weeks... Do you get paid to disrupt this site? Why are you here? You got nothing but down votes everywhere u go. If i wasnt a gentleman id bitch slap the piss out u.
"You been here a couple weeks... Do you get paid to disrupt this site? Why are you here? You got nothing but down votes everywhere u go. If i wasnt a gentleman id bitch slap the piss out u."
We all know why you are here. It's because you are a pathetic loser that women don't like.
Hahaha so says the dumb skank. I have an idea, why dont you go do the dishes before your toothless boyfriend beats the shit out you. I think he is almost all out of pabst blue ribbon
Did they put you in jail for beating your mother because she wouldn't give you any of her welfare money to buy drugs?
Yeah so you better watch that fat mouth there. I will park you like a cadillac.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-24/conspiracy-theory-true-agents-i...
Nailin Palin
http://www.thisis50.com/profiles/blogs/784568:BlogPost:8266392
Why not now?
Because she's a fucking idiot dressed in the flag spewing NeoCon banker propaganda. For fuck's sake, is this the Twilight Zone?
We all know you are an old gay nazi troll who hates women, but tell us which TBTF bankers support her? Did one of the lesbians on MSNBC tell you that she was a NeoCon?
You are either a troll here with some nefarious purpose or a garden variety Romney voter with a room temperature IQ, haven't figured out which yet. But why is it that in so many posts on this thread, everyone that disagrees with you got it from some msnbc personality? That's what makes me think you are a troll, your incessant mention of that network. Most people here are of the libertarian/minarchist or anarchist persuasion. Why you would think regular visitors to this sight would be getting our info from msnbc is asinine. You have yet to make one reasoned argument, just throw out childish insults. Please go away.
This skank is a paid basher. "Troll this and troll that" fucking nonsense
"This skank is a paid basher. "Troll this and troll that" fucking nonsense"
We all know that you are a pathetic loser with no better to do on a Saturday night because you've never had a girlfriend.
There you go projecting again sylvia,. Sorry your hot friends left for the club and your fat ass has to hang around us big boys. Its ok more cushin for the pushin. Isnt that what they always tell you?
Big dopes is more like it...
No one cares how fat your mother is or if she has more cushin for the pushin. Isn't that what all the guys in the neighborhood said about her?
Damn that was fuckin weak. Dopes? Hahahah keep em commin your hilarious. Way out of your league, but hilarious.
What reasoned argument has Greenskeeper_Carl made besides throwing out childish insults while accusing others of doing the same?
So unless one agrees entirely with the libertarian/minarchist or anarchist persuasion, then they cannot post here?
Sounds like Greenkeeper_Carl is a typical neo-Marxist fascist hypocrite who is a petty little dictator in his own mind!
I think some ones aunt flo came to visit. Poor little sylvia, came to fightclub and got punched in the babymaker. You are such a failure. Why arnt you out there like the pretty girls, instead here talking about big boy subjects like politics?
I like Palin, she has balls and is willing to speak her mind despite what the many dumb shits that are pre-programmed to believe in a Staist image of self annhilation, not having a mind or their own. She understands who Obama is and she knows by his brain dead residual effects of his policy making that he is trying transform America into the horror of Statism, which has never ever worked. I find it baffling that socialism is collapsing world wide, yet Obama is marching to convert America into this failed ideology!
I ask myself, "Would we of been better off with Palin as VP or Biden?" Fast forward a few years and make that question "Palin or Hillary?" I've been voting the lesser of 2 perceived evils for some time now. We only get what we are fed as choices and they are not good. I could throw away my vote for a 3rd Party guy but thinking next go round I'll just stay home. Do something constructive with my time. Dig a bomb shelter. Organize my stack and clean the guns. I honestly don't know if voting is that rigged or if my 'kind' is just outnumbered by the FSA. End of the day...I'll take Palin's boot on my neck over that queer, free spending, golfing ass clown Kenyan.
The media fears her, she cannot be controlled by them.
You're a fucking moron; the government loves you.