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And The Person Who Foresaw It All Is...

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The was a time when everyone loved making fun of GOP vice presidential canidate Sarah Palin. It's her turn to get the final laugh.

As CBS recounts, in October 2008, after Russia's invasion of neighboring Georgia emerged as a foreign policy flashpoint in the homestretch of a heated campaign, Palin told an audience in Nevada, "After the Russian army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next."

Just as amusing was the response to Palin's comments by foreign policy experts, Foreign Policy magazine, which said, "As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel."

Coming just a few months after subprime turned out not to be contained despite everyone's fervent belief that it was, this is not all that surprising.

And now it's time to gloat: "I'm usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate prediction being derided as 'an extremely far-fetched scenario' by the 'high-brow' Foreign Policy magazine," Palin wrote Friday.

"Here's what this 'stupid,' 'insipid woman' predicted in 2008," she added, before rehashing her prediction.

Talk radio host Mark Levin tweeted, "Palin not only knows where Russia is, but she knew what Putin would do to Ukraine with Obama as president."

Then again, back in 2008 a lot of people were also talking about hope and change. Five years later people have to look up the definition of hope, as for change, the best place to find it is in the 11 million people who have dropped out of the labor force in that time.

 

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Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:45 | 4495980 booboo
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Not offended in the least bit, it's just the echo chamber here. You can tell who watches msnbc by their trained response to "Sarah Palin"

Say the name at any party and it's like Pavalov ringing his dogs bell, everyone starts drooling "Dumb Bitch"

I personally could care less and I don't think she would make an effective leader myself just for the very resaon that people have been trained (yes, trained) to hate the lady. Other then that I don't think most people could write two paragraphs of factual statements she has made from memory.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:37 | 4496635 Son of Captain Nemo
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But booboo...

You didn't respond to me about her "running mate"?  You know the guy that wanted to Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran and made that announcement well before the election and laughed at his own joke -that would have been her boss and led the Country!

You know the one that bursts out in the office at foreign dignitaries who are suffering genocide at the hands of terrorists and arent willing to "get with the program" (at there own expense) he is funding, or the fact he calls his best lady a "cunt"

Yeah that guy!

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:38 | 4495716 IridiumRebel
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Dang!

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:38 | 4495721 astitchintime
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Yes booboo, very well said!

I'm not sure why exactly so many here on ZH are so anti Sarah Palin, she IMO is simply voicing her opposition to the way this country is being run by incompetent morons.  This is not a red-team or blue-team issue and I think Knuckles hit the nail on the head ... this IS all about principles.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:40 | 4495454 Spastica Rex
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A broken clock and whatnot.

Or in this case, a retarded clock.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:48 | 4495489 Tinky
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She's far dumber than a broken clock, and only right twice a year.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:46 | 4495748 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hey Spastica and Tinky.

Is it just me or is it two Party appreciation night before Armageddon?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:20 | 4495884 akak
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Yes, indeed, and may I say "What the Fuck?".

Is it trolls, or has Weekend Neocon Tyler brought out all the Repugnicunt cheerleaders over from Red State, Little Green Footballs and the Rush Limburger Fan Club?  I have NEVER seen this kind and level of kneejerk pro-Right Wing, pro-Establishment, pro-Republican, pro-authoritarian (as exemplified by all the pro-Putin) comments in this forum at ANY point in the last four years like I have in the last week or two, and most especially today. 

I am not sure if I will be wanting to hang around here much longer if this is a foretaste of ZH things to come.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:26 | 4495914 1C3-N1N3
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+1

The time is coming to build a new Fight Club.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:45 | 4495983 Son of Captain Nemo
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Ditto on that to go!

We've seen the "usual suspects" especially depending on the topic, but not like this one tonight.  The fact that this thread has over 300 hits is beyond bizarre.

Let's hope it's not a continuing pattern, as I've always admired what this place represents, but let's face reality, this Country and it's continued direction is why we shouldn't be at all surprised.

Thx akak

 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:43 | 4496550 overmedicatedun...
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Palin points in her favor,lived long way from wall st bankers and DC-not a NWO puppet, nationalist (a word never spoken in our higher DC circles),did not elevate homosexuals above normals. understood killing children is evil, seems to want a healthy economy and independent USA, with secure borders..

points against: as an deep woods person, no real understanding of the NWO - how they operate, our FED and the free trade and open borders that go along with it. could she out manuver them - probly not.

much like r paul, better than most we get to choose from.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:49 | 4496000 sylviasays
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Yes, indeed, and may I say "What the Fuck?".

Is it trolls, or has Weekend Neo-Marxist Tyler brought out all the Demowhore cheerleaders over from Blue State, Little blue Footballs and the Chrissy Matthews Fan Club?  I have NEVER seen this kind and level of kneejerk pro-Left Wing, anit-Establishment, pro-Democrat, pro-authoritarian (as exemplified by all the pro-Maduro and pro-Obama) comments in this forum at ANY point in the last four years like I have in the last week or two, and most especially today. 

I am sure that I don't want to see trolls like akak hang around here much longer! 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:13 | 4496037 astitchintime
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akak, first and foremost let me start by saying I am a newbie, just signed up last week.  But, I have been reading ZH and most of the comments since 2009.

I want to offer up this:  I think what you are seeing is exactly what you were wishing for  5+ years ago.  People are unhappy with their government and with the quality of their lives.  They are starting to change course.  Is this not a good thing, to be encouraged and not chastised?

Keep the good faith and steer the course :)

 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:40 | 4495457 i_call_you_my_base
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She's an idiot.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:41 | 4495463 johnberesfordti...
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This is a joke. Right?

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:42 | 4495465 shinobi-7
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The competence or incompetence of Palin is just different!

Yes she knows where Russia is but so does Obama, he is not Bush Junior. She may even have the balls that he is missing but in this case it would serve her little. Putin has maneuvered skillfully. What is needed is not the ability to say "stop" when you can do absolutely nothing which is the case now for the US but to put yourself in a position where you will be able to do something when you need to.

And might in this case is not enough. You also need the high ground. Putin recently said: Remember Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya...! And sure enough: he has a point.

 

 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:49 | 4495494 dexter_morgan
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Main difference I notice between Obama and Palin is that whenever she said anything stupid, which was often, it was front page news. When Obama says stupid shit, which is about as frequent, you have to find out about it on alternate media sites like ZH.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:58 | 4495521 shinobi-7
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You should also read "Pravda" (The truth :-)

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:41 | 4495467 Silver Sativa
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Sarah Palin, that dumb bitch, did not accurately predict anything: She mearly threw a dart at a board and just happen to get a lucky strike. She's still a ding-bag barbie-doll who never finished anything in her life.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:42 | 4495468 logicalman
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Her one saving grace is that she wants to be a real politician, but has failed.

On the other hand, maybe she has two. I bet she's a better shot than POTUS.

 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:43 | 4495472 toady
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This has to be the stupidest meme I've seen all day! A broken clock is right twice a day, Palin is once a decade, and then it's only because it's out of context.

Shame on you Tylers for throwing red meat to the base. Just because some dudes are horny for Palin in your comments section doesn't mean you need to put up an article!

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:17 | 4495618 Leraconteur
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She was right. Hard to admit it, isn't it?

The truth is that critics of the American Right, foreign or domestic, are biased. Just like everyone else.

Why mockery of conservatives is OK but the deification of Obama is approved, is food for another thread. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:17 | 4495887 Arkadaba
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Down vote for falling into red team/blue team - no difference. And media -

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/our-american-pravda/

And yeah I would be considered 'liberal' by most but shared this article with many.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:51 | 4496221 Leraconteur
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The USA has GOT TO move beyond this D or R, Up/Down, Yes/No, On/Off, 0 or 1 thinking.

The country needs 3 more political parties. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 05:40 | 4496404 Tall Tom
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The Nation needs ZERO POLITICAL PARTIES.

 

THe people NEED TO ABANDON this type of thinking as ThERE ARE NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS.

 

The people need to care for themselves.

 

I have ZERO HOPE of that happening as the people deify Government.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:09 | 4496052 toady
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You're right. Even though I did admit she was right in my original post, I now want to retract that.

Just because she made a generic 'this country invade that country' statement doesn't make her a genius. In reality, the Ukrainians overthrew a corrupt leader creating a power vacuum. This is not Putin or that dickhead in d.c. pissing down each others back and saying it's raining, it's the whole world scrambling to take advantage of a crisis.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 22:46 | 4495483 luckylogger
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I have been in love wioth this woman since I first herd of her..... Any woman that likes to shoot wolves out of helicopters has my heart...........

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:06 | 4495561 gwar5
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Palin is demonized because TPTB can't control her. Her church was firebombed while people were still inside, December 14, 2008 -- two weeks before Christmas and only 5 weeks after the election Obama had already won.  We know it was Obama's people because the MSM blacked out the story, that's why you never heard about it. To her creidt she has never played the Sharptonish victim card like the occupier of the White House.

 

She was also right about death panels, the economy, taxes, illegal immigration, 2nd amendment, calling out crony capitalism, Benghazi, Syrian war, and IRS targeting. For anybody paying attention she has not only been in the majority opinion on all the major issues, but has been the biggest real victim in the "War on women," if there is one, conducted by the hypocritical marxist leftards.

The RINO's hate her and she makes the commies apoplectic, and she makes all of them look even dumberer than they accuse her of being. That's plenty good enough for me.  I don't see her as president but she'd make a good Interior Secretary to stop the Agenda 21 bullshit.

 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:56 | 4495797 merizobeach
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You're a fucking moron.  That stupid bitch is a puppet of the tyranny.  So stupid, in fact, that she couldn't name a newspaper that she reads because SHE DOESN'T FUCKING READ.  I'd bet anything that line about Ukraine six years ago was scripted by the same PNAC interests that finally made the war in Ukraine come to fruition.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:59 | 4495805 sylviasays
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Who reads newspapers anymore but old trolls, merizobeach? 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 03:09 | 4496242 merizobeach
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Not illiterate prissy cunts like you, apparently, you brainless arrogant bitch.

Let's illustrate the point: have you traveled the world, you stupid whore?  No?  What a surprise.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:07 | 4495844 scraping_by
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As has been noted, she's an advocate of Dominion Theology, replacing the US Government with an authoritarian theocracy. Barry's a direct lackey of TPTB. So, of course, the MSM covers for Barry and lets Palin be Palin. That's enough to shoot her down.

Now, if she could even convince the Wall Street bankers a bunch of armed Baptists could serve their power just as well as a bunch of lawyers in suits, she'd get some traction. Don't count on it.

I think she could give a competent lap dance. The rest, not so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:18 | 4495621 dexter_morgan
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Predicting Guam would tip over? Yeah, she's way dumber than THIS elected official

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:21 | 4495629 skepsis101
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I hope there isn't anyone here at ZH who believes or thinks that Mrs. Palin actually thought up the 'Ukrainian scenario" inside of her very own little dense brain.  After her inane remark about being able to visibly see the Russian threat from her front window in Alaska, she was being very meticulously coached by the very same neocon set that advises her former running mate, the hamhanded McCain, and the same group that has been trying to effect this coup since at least 2003 before the 'Orange Revolution' (sic).

It is in fact, the MO of these cretins in the US State Department to use the likes of the energetic and photogenic Palin (sans brains), just as they did the equally simple-minded Ukrainian presidents Kuschenko and the over zealous greed-driven oligarch Julia Tymoshenko (both of whom cratered in their own private internecine warfare), because their persona gets peoples attention!!!!   They are all just marionettes!

Unfortunately trying to wake up the walking dead, that is, real people who have to work day-in and day-out to make an actual living, one has to sometimes hit them over the head to get their attention.  Such are the limitations of democracy, especially in today's world of unlimited distraction.

So let's give credit where credit is due: to the actual psychopathic sons-of-bitches like Kissinger, Cheney, Nuland, Kagan, Abrams, et al, who dream this stuff up and bring humankind and the planet earth to the very brink of annhilation.

By the way, as a primer on how we got here, just read the latest ZH article by Snowden/Greenwald on the NSA's 'total disinformation' program

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:26 | 4495662 pondview28
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Inane? You do know that line came from a Saturday Night Live skit. Care to rewrite your opinions now?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:00 | 4496025 skepsis101
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Dear Pondview,

After excising the "inane remark about being able to visibly see the Russian threat from her front window in Alaska" (incorrectly attributed from the Tina Fey impersonation - instead of her correct quote being from the Charlie Gibson interview wherein she said "you can actually see Russia from here in Alaska"), and then inserting anyone of a number of the more inane remarks made by Ms. Palin during the 2008 campaign instead, perhaps you would like to respond to the actual import of my comment. 

The point of which was (in case it just flew by you) that "publics" anywhere, whether in the Ukraine Maidan or the good old USofA, are so often duped by the attractive persona of a given candidate cum leader, appropriately managed by their political handlers, that the depth and perceptive acumen of such a person is seldom deciphered.  Clearly, this is the fault of the public as much as the process.  Yet I have no doubt that Palin had zero prior knowledge of, nor understanding of, the unique historical record and twin fates of the Ukraine and Russia.  Do you?  Or are we just debating here what is often referred to here as the red/blue contagion?

My opinion has not changed!  Palin was dangerous for obvious reasons.  Would you care to tell me that the reason you called me out had nothing to do with partisanship?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:01 | 4496034 skepsis101
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Dear Pondview,

After excising the "inane remark about being able to visibly see the Russian threat from her front window in Alaska" (incorrectly attributed from the Tina Fey impersonation - instead of her correct quote being from the Charlie Gibson interview wherein she said "you can actually see Russia from here in Alaska"), and then inserting anyone of a number of the more inane remarks made by Ms. Palin during the 2008 campaign instead, perhaps you would like to respond to the actual import of my comment. 

The point of which was (in case it just flew by you) that "publics" anywhere, whether in the Ukraine Maidan or the good old USofA, are so often duped by the attractive persona of a given candidate cum leader, appropriately managed by their political handlers, that the depth and perceptive acumen of such a person is seldom deciphered.  Clearly, this is the fault of the public as much as the process.  Yet I have no doubt that Palin had zero prior knowledge of, nor understanding of, the unique historical record and twin fates of the Ukraine and Russia.  Do you?  Or are we just debating here what is often referred to here as the red/blue contagion?

My opinion has not changed!  Palin was dangerous for obvious reasons.  Would you care to tell me that the reason you called me out had nothing to do with partisanship?

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:32 | 4495698 MeelionDollerBogus
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all politicians are dupes with advisors & connections, legal or not, and some choose to repeat certain things for political gain. It didn't help her then but it earned her an I-Told-You-So today. Well, them's the breaks.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:53 | 4495783 scraping_by
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Remember her native crowd is the Christian Right, the far out whackos who believe the US must be turned into a theocracy to prevent Satanic Socialists from knocking the world back to ashes. They share a world view with the Libertarians and Survivalists, but want to go the other way and impose an Evangelical dictatorship to keep it from happening.

Wonder if she got this idea being prayed over down at the Christian Center...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:53 | 4496015 sylviasays
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Remember that Obama's native crowd is the Marixst left, the far out whackos who believe the US must be turned into a dictatorship to prevent the evil Christian right from knocking the world back to sanity. They share a world view with the Leninists and Stalinists, but want to go the other way and impose an Obama dictatorship to keep it from happening.

Wonder if he got this idea being prayed over down at the Islamic Center...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:04 | 4496144 scraping_by
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While 'Obama! Socialist! is a staple chant in the Far Right Alternate Universe, it has no basis in reality. Except to people who still think Socialized Losses is Socialism. Didn't get the meaning of those words.

While Barry's expansion of the Patriot Act is defense against democracy, he's defending his banker masters, not a bunch of college professors.

And don't go to lifestyle politics. He's promoting Gay this that and the other thing because he's closeted (just like Shrub) and he's daring us to call him on it.

I don't mind Gov. Goobies being the Prom Queen of the dark caverns of Biblical Government. But she does better when she stays in that underworld.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:43 | 4498342 sylviasays
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"While 'Obama! Socialist! is a staple chant in the Far Right Alternate Universe, it has no basis in reality. Except to people who still think Socialized Losses is Socialism. Didn't get the meaning of those words."

The reality is that the TBTF bankers that placed him into office are allowing him to push out his far left agenda just as long as it doesn't interfer with their plans. 

So we've ended up with a neo-Maxist fascist in the White House. 


 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:48 | 4498367 FredFlintstone
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That sounds halfway intelligent. You were making Palin really unattractive by association last night.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:04 | 4496145 scraping_by
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While 'Obama! Socialist! is a staple chant in the Far Right Alternate Universe, it has no basis in reality. Except to people who still think Socialized Losses is Socialism. Didn't get the meaning of those words.

While Barry's expansion of the Patriot Act is defense against democracy, he's defending his banker masters, not a bunch of college professors.

And don't go to lifestyle politics. He's promoting Gay this that and the other thing because he's closeted (just like Shrub) and he's daring us to call him on it.

I don't mind Gov. Goobies being the Prom Queen of the dark caverns of Biblical Government. But she does better when she stays in that underworld.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:23 | 4495650 Dr. Destructo
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No shit she saw it all -It's always been the wet dream of many neolibs/cons to fuck with Russia.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:41 | 4495729 gwar5
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Nailed. it. Palin is really an neo-con evil genius straight from central casting.   /s

 

 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 03:29 | 4496256 Dr. Destructo
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She's also a sweet grandmother who has strong understanding of foreign policy and wants whats best for the country.

...LOL!

She ran with McCain -it's obvious where her priorities lie.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:24 | 4495654 pondview28
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The Palin haters always are interesting. Just as bad as any Lefty. Name calling. Demonizing. Pathetic.
Name something actually wrong with her and then back it up with some evidence. So you can't admire a self-made person? Someone that really can have family and a career (no Mexican nanny in sight). Who stood up to her own party and walked the walk of cleaning up politics. Yeah, horrible stuff. We can't have any of that, because she talks funny.
Truth be told after hearing her speeches I believe she is too much of a statist to invoke much useful change. I would, however, much rather have her at the levers of power than our current set of clownish do-gooders.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:28 | 4495671 FredFlintstone
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"at the levers of power" in a tight blouse.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:29 | 4495674 Dr. Destructo
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The levers of power don't belong in government -they belong in the hands of oligarchs that control the government.

Did you mean to say that you would rather have her manipulated by strings instead of Biden? I agree -she's much easier on the eyes, but unfortunately for you she'd still be useless.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:55 | 4495792 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Name something actually wrong with her and then back it up with some evidence.

She's a politician.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:00 | 4495811 sylviasays
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Correction. She was a politician and she's now a private citizen who is a wife, mother, and grandmother. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:45 | 4495975 scraping_by
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Correction. She is a celebrity who trades on her fame for income, cultivating her Evangelical crowd with a combination of sex appeal, fake sympathy, and far right murder slogans.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:08 | 4496048 sylviasays
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Correction. She is a celebrity who trades on her fame for income, cultivating her Evangelical crowd with a combination of sex appeal, fake sympathy, and far right murder slogans.

Correction. At least she's not a corrupt leftist pig like your idols Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer who traded their positions for billions in income, cultivating their far left crowd with a total lack of sex appeal, fake promises, and far left murder slogans. 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:29 | 4495679 FredFlintstone
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Trump-Palin 2016...I said it first!

or

Palin-Trump?

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:31 | 4495688 Dr. Destructo
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Jack Johnson-John Jackson 2016...

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:33 | 4495694 knukles
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Trump?
Holy Fuck, the place has gone mad.

And that's by my standards, which long ago I'd mastered to lower just as far as necessary to justify the unjustifiable.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:08 | 4495854 sylviasays
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Moochelle and Jesse Jackson 2016...I said it first!

or Jackson-Mochelle?

 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 05:55 | 4496413 Tall Tom
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No. Actually you did not say it first. I have been predicting a Michelle Obama Ticket on ZH for the past 6 Months.

 

I have been predicting that as it is a way that Barry Soetero retains "power".

 

Now I do not support that. I do not support the Democrats or the Republicans whatsoever.

 

Your posts remind me as to what a 12 Year Old might post on a YouTube video. (At times it is actually somewhat humorous.)

 

But it serves to demonstrate that there is no hope within the American Electorate to make wise decisions for themselves.

 

That is why the United States is doomed.

 

The rest of the awoken need to take note and do that which is prudent.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:38 | 4495720 merizobeach
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The pro-Palin and pro-GOP sentiments expressed in these comments are both disgusting and disappointing.  Oh, well.  A lot of ZHers have shown us the ugly colors of their underwear today, and I have accordingly lost respect.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:02 | 4495814 sylviasays
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The pro-Palin and pro-GOP sentiments expressed in these comments are both disgusting and disappointing. Oh, well. A lot of ZHers have shown us the ugly colors of their underwear today, and I have accordingly lost respect.

 

The anti-Palin and pro-DNC sentiments expressed in these comments are both disgusting and disappointing.  Oh, well.  A lot of ZHers have shown us the ugly colors of their underwear today, and I have accordingly lost respect.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:09 | 4495843 akak
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For the last fucking time, you ignorant and woefully retarded cunt, stop trying to foist your red team/blue team bullcrap on us.  Most here are (or, at least I thought, WERE) beyond such simplistic and self-defeating 'thinking', and recognize that both Establishment, pro-status-quo parties are EQUALLY corrupt, EQUALLY evil, and EQUALLY responsible for the many problems facing the USA today.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:12 | 4495864 sylviasays
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akak, for the last fucking time, you ignorant and woefully retarded cunt, stop trying to foist your red team/blue team bullcrap on us.  Most here are (or, I thought, at least WERE) beyond such simplistic and self-defeating 'thinking', and recognize that both Establishment, pro-status-quo parties are EQUALLY corrupt, EQUALLY evil, and EQUALLY responsible for the many problems facing the USA today.

Oh yeah, akak's skanky mother fucked the red AND blue team! 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:38 | 4495953 1C3-N1N3
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akak, sylviasaysism american partisanism citizenism citizen is busy monolizing the speeching means here for the crustiest bit of the mattering things.

Alas, alas, 21 weeks 4 days alas, just have to bear with it. Farming the poor comments like genderaniums sprouting in turds alongside Huangpu river. Instead, Huang poo on roadside.

Make me laugh!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:22 | 4496179 akak
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The eternal nature of US 'american' citizenism comedianisticalness is irrepressible and always blobbing-up.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 03:54 | 4496303 sylviasays
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akak's inane anti-american' citizenism comedianisticalness is irrepressible and always blobbing-up.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:23 | 4496181 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Made me laugh. Once again, another disaster of sylviasaysism.

Have sylviasaysism citizens any human quality that would redeem them? Please name one.

It is much more than an episodic crisis. Actually, we are through a period of time where sylviasaysism is exposed for meaning what it means: that is nothing.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:39 | 4496205 1C3-N1N3
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ROR!

Feminist Class is King Class in sylviasaysism citizenism! This is why they do.

As it was with Wu Song and the tiger. Consumptiation of genderification of American citizenism blobbing up resources and bad facts. sylviasaysism in condemnation of pigside splattering thing!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:24 | 4495911 WhyWait
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You mean the one that said "She's Hot!"?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:27 | 4495918 DirkDiggler11
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I'm weeping on the inside, I / We had worked so hard to earn your respect and admiration. Give me a fucking break.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:42 | 4495731 FredFlintstone
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She let a black man screw her, so what. All you middle-aged white guys hate her now.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:06 | 4495841 sylviasays
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She let a black man screw her, so what. All you middle-aged white guys hate her now.

No, you mistaken her for your skanky momma who let every black man in Chicago screw her. 

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:49 | 4495753 dksrox
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The sun set today, and then the moon came up. I wonder if that will happen tomorrow?

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:47 | 4495754 dksrox
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Since there was a recession a few years ago, there will be a recession.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:48 | 4495758 scraping_by
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Please. Just, please.

Gov. Bimbo LeBang was looking for any excuse to make war, since corporate shills need war to posture. The 'Strong' blat that Shrub did so well, and that Barry has been doing limply. Reagan wasn't a robotic announcer, he was 'Stong'. Bush I wasn't a privaledged sneak, he was 'Strong'. And so on.

Foreign bogeymen are there to keep the sheep in line. They're supposed to be the worse alternative.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:48 | 4495760 yrbmegr
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A broken clock is right twice a day.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:49 | 4495765 Bonapartist
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"Whose Nailin' Paylin?" starring Lisa Ann

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:53 | 4495781 Seize Mars
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She's hot.

Sat, 03/01/2014 - 23:57 | 4495800 rsnoble
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You do realize that supreme cunt disorderment Palin is neighbors with Russia correct?

And besides that point i'd still like to bend her over and lick her tart butthole and stick it in.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:04 | 4495827 sylviasays
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You do realize that supreme cunt disorderment Palin is neighbors with Russia correct?

And besides that point i'd still like to bend her over and lick her tart butthole and stick it in.

You can't since you had that tranny operation to chop off your tiny little wee-wee. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:06 | 4495837 Arkadaba
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Give me a break ZH.  You've done a great job in providing the only unbiased news on Ukraine situation starting with;

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-06/fuck-eu-us-state-department-bla...

but this is just click bait. The analogy doesn't hold water and yes a broken clock and all that.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:16 | 4495881 scraping_by
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Think of it as throwing raw meat to a hungry pack of wolves. Or getting the corporate stooges to show their little pinheads. Or, dealing with the Dominionist droolers since they've made their bid to call for war for war's sake.

When things get shook up, a few bent pieces fall out into the light.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:21 | 4495892 sylviasays
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Give me a break ZH.  You've done a great job in providing the only unbiased news on Ukraine situation

yeah, give Akadaba a break who prefers the unbiased news from the likes of HuffPo, Yahoo News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times, CBS...


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:27 | 4495919 Arkadaba
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Anything Palin had to say regarding Russia a few years ago is not applicable to the current situation. And most thinking people know that.

As to me preferring huffpo or cnn - lol.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:01 | 4496031 Arkadaba
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:06 | 4495840 FredFlintstone
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Who is hotter? Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann or Judge Jeanine Pirro?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:14 | 4495875 sylviasays
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Who is hotter? Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann or Judge Jeanine Pirro?

FredFlinstone wouldn't know since George Clooney is more his type! 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:23 | 4495906 FredFlintstone
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I am sorry, you must be plain.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:17 | 4495888 patb
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Can Sarah Palin find the Ukraine on a map?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:20 | 4495898 sylviasays
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Can Sarah Palin find the Ukraine on a map?

Can't your mother find her way out of the whorehouse that she's worked in for years?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:33 | 4495934 FredFlintstone
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Piper Palin is that you? It is past your bed time and I can't believe thr language you are using here on this site!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:44 | 4495976 patb
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That's Bristol.  She's the dirty girl.

 

Of Course Bristol can't even spell Ukraine.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:21 | 4496078 sylviasays
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That's Bristol.  She's the dirty girl. Of Course Bristol can't even spell Ukraine.

Sort of like your daughter? or mother? 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 00:36 | 4495944 bobert
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I like her.

She is smart.

She is attractive.

I like her enough to hope that she does not run for president.

She's tough but not tough enough for that arena.

When she speaks I'll be listening.

I differ with her on energy issues, however I have a basic respect for her!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:00 | 4496026 FredFlintstone
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Time for bed pops. Gettin late :)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:25 | 4496080 sylviasays
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Strong women scare old trolls like FredFlintstone? 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:54 | 4496224 bilbert
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Well, THIS  has certainly been entertaining..................... /sarc

And yes - I too, read all two-hunnerd-leven responses..................

Not ONE poster noted/remarked on the date of the post - 3/1/2014

APRIL FOOLS!!!!

Ummmm........... ZH is supposed to be ahead of the herd, right?....................

RIGHT???? 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 11:05 | 4496882 daemon
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" Not ONE poster noted/remarked on the date of the post - 3/1/2014

APRIL FOOLS!!!! "

I don't understand, wouldn't it be MARCH FOOLS!!!!  ?


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:04 | 4496038 NDXTrader
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It's really quite amazing. Agree with her politics or not, you would think most on ZH would know what blatant character assassination and media manipulation is. Now I have no idea whether she is Einstein or Forrest Gump, but neither does anyone else. The media did as an effective job of destroying her as I've seen in 50 years (maybe outside of Nixon)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:07 | 4496047 FredFlintstone
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Sylviasays may be one of those Bangalore bots that Satoshi told us about. Indian tough guy that thinks we all put down each other's mothers over here.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:17 | 4496071 sylviasays
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FredFlinstone must be one of those lonely old ZH trolls who hates women and posts here day after day while collecting social security? 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:19 | 4496073 FredFlintstone
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You have no imagination. Bye bye.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:23 | 4496083 sylviasays
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You have no imagination. Bye bye.

You have no brains and a little wee-wee. Bye bye.


 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:08 | 4496050 Tegrat
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Lots of people, even those on the ZH borde have been told to tell everone that Palin is an idiot. She's one of the best people we got looking out for people. I have extreme liberal buddies out in Alaska that hate her (as their handlers told them to do - mindless idiots liberals are) but they defend that pipeline and that $2k check per family member every year.

 

Sarah Palin will haunt every liberal until she forces them by executive order to buy a gun. Like Obama has forced everyone to by the UACA.

 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:12 | 4496058 Tegrat
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Cruz-Palin 2016!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:30 | 4496765 headhunt
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Allen West/Palin

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:18 | 4496067 MsCreant
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I am stunned at all the debate. Palin is Palin. No more, no less. She called this. If you think she is "stupid" it is really funny she called this and Barry did not. If you dig her, cool for you. 

ZH is not perfect. This post is not selling out. It is put out there for your consideration. Not advocacy. Not against her. Just there for your consideration. Does not make them whores. 

I don't like Simon Black much of the time. I can do without the "Collapse Blog" materials much of the time. I am still okay that they post it. It is multiple points of view. It is okay to roll our eyes at some of it. 

Cool your tools. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:46 | 4496660 knukles
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:)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:28 | 4496091 gann1212
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yeah sarah palin is the answer. and 2 + 2 is 6 . left or right neither one is the answer. the answer is regular people having a say in determining their future. how we go about getting there is going to take input from we the people. but right now neither side represents your typical american worker or family for that point. what they represent is money the big money and the big money does not care about the welfare of america in the least.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:29 | 4496760 headhunt
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The simple answer is Allen West/Palin - electable and actual conservatives.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 01:30 | 4496096 Nick Jihad
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Funny how the posts that "don't belong on ZH" always get the most comments. :-)

And, I'm surprised to see so much Palin Derangement Syndrome among ZH readers, although maybe that's just the result of a small number who suffer acutely from the Syndrome.  Just how many comments has LTER posted to this topic, anyway? Roughly half, i'd guess. ;-)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:18 | 4496172 scraping_by
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Actually, it's legitimate political foresight.

The MSM is atwitter with the leading GOP presidential contenders crashing and burning. Fatboy Christie got caught fucking up traffic to punish those who didn't fall into line. Weasel Walker just got caught on the email list for political kickback scheme. Florida's Scott's pet guns are good law has a body count of innocent people past where even Teabaggers can stomach, not to mention the money he gets off his state's real estate hell.

Gov. Sarah Palin might actually end up nominated to run for office. Now, while we know she's a good girl and would never do anything without wiser male permission, just the de jure power of the office in the hands of someone who's mean, sneaky, dishonest, and morally desensitized is too sobering to shrug off. So, yeah, it's time to remind people Tits McRifle should not be allowed near the levers of power. Never.

And it's great fun when her crowd doesn't see she's the joke.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 04:02 | 4496313 sylviasays
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"Gov. Sarah Palin might actually end up nominated to run for office."

No doubt the nomination of Palin would make trolls like scraping_by shit their panties and go all ballistic with endless misogynist attacks on Palin?

And it's great fun when Palin haters don't see they are the joke.
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 06:25 | 4496443 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Palin // Cruz // 2016

 

What?  Cruz wasnT born in the US?

 

And that matters, how?!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:26 | 4496749 headhunt
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Even better Allen West/Palin

West would make a great president and the left would cry themselves to sleep every night because there would be two people in the White-house that would defend all of our rights (even for the leftists) defend the Constitution and rule of law. 

Crazy things like enforcing our border laws, reigning in the IRS political witch hunts, enforcing laws equally including election law, stop fighting our States and States rights, clean up the criminally corrupt SEC, cleaning up the criminally corrupt Dept of Education and EPA and letting the rest of the world know that your word is your bond.

Crazy shit like that.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:02 | 4496136 beavertails
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The President is not suppose to be the smartest american or historian.  They don't even need to spell potatoe properly.  The President needs to be decisive so we know that a red line is a red line.  

Who cares what they where or how they look or that they speak with an accent or boken sentences.

Sarah rocks or not because we know where she stands on issues or not.  At least she supports the right to bear arms and maybe she supports the constitution also and would defend it.

Those who hold her to a higher intellectual standards misses the point of what a politician and leader is suppose to do, represent us and protect the common interest of the people.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:25 | 4496185 mollon
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First:

Tweet by Mark Levin is completely idiotic because the president of Russia in 2008 was Dmitry Medvedev. 

Second:

The reason why Russia is invading is because the people of Ukraine kicked out a Russian puppet. Palin was definitely not talking about invading Ukraine because of this particular reason.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 02:30 | 4496197 Akrunner907
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Palin didn't know shit.  She was advised and prepared by McCain's foreign policy team.  They are the ones that deserve the credit for making the call on Ukraine!!!  

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 04:38 | 4496362 Clowns on Acid
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you don't know shit...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:04 | 4496695 headhunt
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I know a leftist communist sympathizer comment when it is posted.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 04:19 | 4496339 buckwheat5000
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she foresaw it all or foreskinned it all

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:30 | 4496410 daemon
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" "I'm usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate prediction being derided as 'an extremely far-fetched scenario' by the 'high-brow' Foreign Policy magazine," Palin wrote Friday. "

Apparently, a "lot" of people "knew" what could happen to Ukraine. In fact according to that "lot" of people, Putin is possibly on the way to rebuild something like former USSR, maybe even bigger. A book published in 2004 : http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Peace-Russias-New-Imperialism/dp/0275983625/r...

Look inside : page 255, note 15 (dating back to november 2003), about Ukraine.

And Obama has probably been told so, since the beginning of his presidency, by different people around him.

To me, the only interesting question is : what would have happened if Palin or McCain had been president ?

Something really different ?

Full blown nuclear WW3 ?

Or nothing more than what is currently happening now ?

 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:02 | 4496689 headhunt
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When you are done wipping his ass, wash up.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 11:22 | 4496983 Flakmeister
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You have issues with a perfectly valid comment?

The Ukraine has always been one of the Crown Jewels of the Heartland... 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 07:20 | 4496481 Rising Sun
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WTF is up with all the lefty shitbags here???

 

Palin called a shot because she saw Barry as weak - she was and is right.

 

And both Palin and Barry are politicians that stage this fucking shit for lemmings like you to choose sides.

 

The FUCKING POLTICIANS and their fucking garbage games are why we are here!!!!

 

Wake up folks - it's just one party in Washington.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:32 | 4496768 Duude
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No, we're here not because of the politicians but because of uninformed and a chronically stupid collective voting mass, unable to investigate, reason, and decide from an indpendent and informed viewpoint, instead  dependent upon the media's deceptive, propaganda-filled misinformation campaign to think for us. That's the reason so many are unwilling to believe their side lies more than the other. It would require more change.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 07:41 | 4496492 Peter K
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Sarah Palin/Alan West GOP ticket in 2016.

Let's just call it the angry white man's ticket :)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:37 | 4496789 Accounting101
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Wow! Now were in full retard mode.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:59 | 4496499 Element
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This page is what happens when barry encourages zh-ers to take drugs and they can not comprehend stuff anymore, and they see all sorts of shit that isn't there, and take issue with shit that doesn't even matter. If you take drugs and you find your sense of humor is AWOL, when funny stuff is posted, then maybe you should cut back on the hooter pipe.

btw, I see one of you lazy bastards ate all the guacamole again ... and which of you vomited on the cat ... again?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:00 | 4496686 headhunt
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I only vomited on the cat to put out the fire - sorry

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:08 | 4496701 Element
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Which would explain why it's now a black cat ... as opposed to a moggy ... gee ... thanks ... I won't ask.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:15 | 4496512 Medea
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Pretty sure you mean her teleprompter foresaw it.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:58 | 4496682 headhunt
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That would be 0 who thinks with a teleprompter

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:26 | 4496521 smacker
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It hardly matters whether Palin predicted this or not. She didn't give a view on whether it had anything to do with the West at all (of course we know she has a McCain viewpoint), and what (if any) the implications and consequences of it would be for the West.

Clearly, the US/UK/EU want to drag Ukraine under Western control & influence and the most important reason for that is to open its doors to NATO, to further surround Russia. Too bad the slimeball Barroso hasn't explained WHO will provide the USD 35 billion bailout it needs by end 2015. He seems to have a fetish for signing-up new bankrupt EU members.

This is preparation for the long-planned showdown between the US/West <-> Russian/China, which is coming within 10 years. Putin knows that and is taking steps to prevent NATO installing military bases along his land border with Ukraine. Re-establishing Crimea as a Russian protectorate of some sort - with majority support from the people - will help that.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:36 | 4496781 Accounting101
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Be careful. You are trying to insert reason and fact into what is becoming a political tribal circle jerk.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:25 | 4496522 ThisIsBob
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Anybody who wants to poke Obama and his administration with a sharp stick is OK by me.  You go, lady.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:36 | 4496540 bk1037
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Sorry, ZH seems to be becoming more pro-Russian as we go along. I will be the first to admit that our shit doesn't stink either, but Putin appears to be the righteous one from anything posted by Tyler or his guests here any more. I realize Putin has not attacked anyone yet, only occupied. But a 100% agreement from the Russian parliament? Anyone who dares disagree with Putin runs a real risk of losing his/her life within Russia, simply put. Now if you want to go ahead and support that approach, that is your view but I grew up realizing the dangers of Soviet style thinking, and there are a number of countries in Eastern Europe right now looking to the USA for guidance and leadership and not Putin.

A broken clock is right twice a day, as it is with Sarah Palin. And Tyler glorifies her with an 'I told you so' moment? Sarah Palin was marginalized in the 2012 election deservedly. Why is the MSM and Tyler resurfacing some comments she made in 2008 when Obama was elected? Sorry in many measures, the GOP and Putin share many characteristics, including anti-gay and pro military and neocon solution to problems.

Here's the danger. If we renege on our 1994 commitments with the Budapest memorandum and not defend Ukraine to some extent, never again expect any small country to shut down potential nuke weapon development. This emboldens Iran to maintain, North Korea to maintain and others to develop and maintain if they think for a minute we do not have credibility on nuke nonprofliferation. And this treaty was signed in good faith by all of the affected leaders (US, UK, Russia and the Ukraine) as inducement for Ukraine to surrender their nukes at the time if they did. Would Putin have done what he did if Ukraine still had nukes? Debatable. And the last thing I want to do is send our forces anywhere like this, but it will soon come down to credibility as seen by many other smaller nations.

 

 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:55 | 4496568 alibi
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america gave up it's credibility in march 2003. apparently the only country that negotiated in good faith in 1994 was ukraine, while the u.s., u.k. and russia smirked and chuckled in the background. why don't we ask our native americans about the value of u.s. treaties.

if you want to solve the 'small nation/nuke conundrum' you can start by eliminating all nukes in all nations. problem solved.

this is the battle for gazprom. nothing more. nothing less.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:51 | 4496661 headhunt
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For a leftist sympathizer.

If occupying territory and disarming  their military (taking their equipment) is not an attack, please send me your address so I can not attack your house. and belongings. The 0 f'd the pooch on this one, he has no credibility and the world is laughing at him. If you appear to wear little school girl clothing to work no one will take you seriously.

You watch too much of CNN and MSNBC, the GOP is and has become the right arm of the left so any "anti-gay and pro military and neocon solution to problems." is an agreement between the ruling elites - the democrat communist left.

Most Americans who considered themselves to be aligned with the GOP no longer feel represented by the right arm of the democrat wing and are looking for an actual conservative.

Now go report back to your communist party with your propaganda results.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:49 | 4496670 smacker
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I believe it's "Schadenfreude", not what you describe.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:42 | 4496547 Disenchanted
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The only thing Palin knew back then was what William Kristol and Co. installed in her empty little head.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:32 | 4496632 headhunt
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Given that; what is obama's head full of?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:43 | 4496806 Disenchanted
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whatever's on his teleprompter.

ask yourself, who's programming that.

 

Don't try that 'if I don't like Palin, I must like Obama' BS on me...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 10:28 | 4496716 Accounting101
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Exactly. It is a massive stretch to project some soothsayer skills upon Ms. Plain, unless of course she had inside knowledge that the Obama administration was going to actively destabilize a democratically elected Ukranian government.

Come on Tylers. You know damn well that this Ukranian situation is not black and white and there are lots of moving parts. Don't try to oversimplify because you need filler.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 08:48 | 4496562 deerhunter
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 A year ago I was a campaign manager for a friend who ran for city council.  He won.  Locally is the only place we can affect change or so I believe.  The city is 110K people in the midwest.  Just previous to his being elected the city spent 500K on a no bid Motorola contract for the fire department for new hand held communications equipment.  The primary reason for the new equipment was the old hand held com equipment couldn't be used with their work gloves on.  Let that sink in.  No bid, 500k contract awarded to a company that "worked closely" with the fire department in its design and specifications.  I wonder how much of that "working closely" occured at the casino or strip club?  The only way the fleecing stops is we stop paying taxes.  If you own your home and do that you get put out on the street.  We can only withdraw from the system in increments but it is a start.  Palin or Obama?  Does it really matter?  I recently visited family in the DC Baltimore area.  Business booming,  malls and stores packed with people spending money,  building cranes everywhere.  Real estate prices on a rampage compared to nationwide.  The giant sucking sound is unrelenting vacuming of money from our pockets.  Taxation without representation began a war once,  maybe time for another?  

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:03 | 4496578 Cycle
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Well, a bit off topic, but all the corruption and tomfoolery with no-bid contracts could start being addressed if voters demanded full financial transparency at all levels of government.  Citizens should have the ability to view "the books" on-line,  examine every single check cut by a government entity.  This will probably not occur since right now we have whole blocks of Federal funds that are being spent for operations that are kept secret from Congress while our elected reps are happy to be lobbied/bribed not to inquire.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:25 | 4496616 MyBrothersKeeper
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Years ago I tried to get a budget with line items fro a small town in VA.  I talked to multiple people.  In the end, they refused.  Govt has become nothing more than a good cop, bad cop chirade....at all levels. One party puts forth a plan but includes elements that make it basically impossible to pass or the other party adds stipulations that make it impossible to pass.  Both parties will come togather and shake hands and have photos taken for avoiding a crisis.....mostly created by them...... and come together on smaller mostly insignificant issues.  But in larger issues that matter most to the well being of the nation...like a simpler tax code, creating transparency in healthcare, illegal immigration etc.  It's all a well orchestrated chirade played over and over again.

The difference is at least at the state level, they have balanced budget amendments which can keep the stupidity level relatively in check (although gimick accounting has become an art). At the national level, it's almost a lost cause. 

Do you really think the establishment GOP like Boehner, McConnel etc want to win the Senate and House? My opinion is no. Because they would be held reponsible for not doing anything on major issues.  Just like when Obama had House, Senate, and WH at the same time and basically fixed nothing for a year and a half.  But the media won't hold them responsible. In this case they would be held responsible by media or the WH would if they used veto power. Go watch Mr Smith Goes To Washington and tell me if anything has changed.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:58 | 4498402 sylviasays
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The difference is at least at the state level, they have balanced budget amendments which can keep the stupidity level relatively in check (although gimick accounting has become an art).

California's Democrats have completely mastered the art of "gimick accounting."


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 09:43 | 4496654 FredFlintstone
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I have seen school boards, city councils, and county commissioners all gang up and shut down the lone colleague who wants to affect change. It becomes an untenable position for the honest person who is not "in it" for themselves. If they can't get the people's champion to quit in disgust after a term, they will try to catch them making a private call on a government cell phone and drive them out on corruption charges.

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