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Putin To Use Military In Ukraine
Current US foreign policy in a nutshell: Barack Obama tells Vladimir Putin "there will be costs" if Russia invades Ukraine. What does Putin do? He invades Ukraine. Only this time it's official: AP reports that the Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked parliament for permission to use the country's military in Ukraine. Putin says the move is needed to protect ethnic Russians and the personnel of a Russian military base in Ukraine's strategic region of Crimea.
From the Kremlin website:
Vladimir Putin made an appeal to the Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.
“In connection with the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, the threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots, the personnel of the military contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation deployed in the territory of Ukraine (Autonomous Republic of Crimea) in accordance with an international treaty, and pursuant to Article 102-1(d) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, I hereby submit to the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation a letter on the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the territory of Ukraine pending normalisation of the public and political situation in that country"
More from Itar-Tass
Putin also appointed Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin to be his official representative in the Federation Council when it considers his letter.
Earlier in the day, the Federation Council asked Putin to take “exhaustive measures” to protect Russians in Ukraine.
“We have urgently summoned the house Council and thought it necessary to make a statement assessing the current situation in Ukraine,” Federation Council Chairperson Valentina Matviyenko said.
She said a group of Russian senators, who had visited Crimea, had informed their colleagues about the situation in the Ukrainian autonomy and specifically in Sevastopol, the home base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
“Today there is a real threat to the life and security of Russian citizens living in Ukraine. There is a threat to our military in Sevastopol and the Black Sea Fleet, and I think that Russia should not be a bystander,” she said.
The main purpose of the Federation Council’s appeal to the president is to urge him “to take exhaustive measures, all possible measures, to ensure the security of our citizens living in Ukraine, help our brotherly Ukrainian people achieve stabilisation and channel the current crisis into a civilised legal track so that the agreements that were signed by the opposition leaders and the head of state were implemented strictly,” Matviyenko said.
She noted that members of the Federation Council “asked the president to take exhaustive measures to prevent further escalation and put the resolution of the political crisis onto a legal track so that those who have grabbed power did not hurry so much and did not trample upon the rights of people and different regions of Ukraine.”
“The agreement [of February 21] clearly determined the sequence of steps. A constitutional reform first - it was supposed to be carried out with broad participation of public and political forces and regions in order to work out a consensus-based document that would be supported by all people in Ukraine. According to international practices, such serious documents should be adopted in a national referendum,” Matviyenko said.
Having expressed regret that this had not happened, she noted that “the speed with which presidential elections have been announced [in Ukraine] puts its legitimacy in question.”
“The agreement calls for forming a government of national accord, which means that it should include representatives of all political forces. In reality we see that the government, which was approved to the stomping of the Maidan, did not include all political forces and was formed from opposition parties only,” Matviyenko observed.
She also said that “the heads of regions were not summoned for consultation.” So “we can understand why there are protests in regions, except for Western regions of Ukraine,” she added.
Matviyenko called for finding “a calm, civilised and legal solution to the crisis” and stressed that “there is no need to demonstrate high political and diplomatic culture in this case because we can see that this is neither appreciated nor understood, and most importantly the security of people will not be ensured.
RIA further adds, the military use is virtually assured as it was leaders of Russia’s upper and lower houses of parliament who first called Saturday on President Vladimir Putin to stabilize the situation in Crimea and protect Russian citizens. The leader of Federation Council, Russia’s upper house, said the use of military force in the former Soviet nation could be justified after the opposition swept into power in Kiev last weekend.
More from the RT:
“In this situation it would even be possible, on the request of the Crimean government, to bring in a limited contingent [of troops] to guarantee security,” Valentina Matviyenko said.
The partition of Ukraine has become increasingly likely in recent days as heavily armed men understood to be Russian soldiers have taken control of key facilities and blocked roads in Crimea.
About 60 percent of the residents of Ukraine’s southern peninsula are ethnic Russians with the remainder of the population made up of Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars, who largely support the incoming regime.
The State Duma, Russia’s lower house, released a similar statement Saturday that said must Putin bring the situation in Ukraine under control.
“All available means” should be deployed to protect Russian citizens, said Sergei Naryshkin, a former head of the presidential administration and the current parliamentery speaker in the Duma.
The Crimea has been visited by a series of Russian Duma deputies in recent days, including former boxing champion Nikolai Valuev, former figure skater Irina Rodnina, and the first woman in space Valentina Tereshkova.
Pro-Russian protests calling for secession have taken place sporadically across the southern and eastern Ukraine since President Viktor Yanukovuych was toppled from power a week ago.
Meanwhile, international media has reported widespread military movements, believed to be units from Russia's Black Sea fleet headquartered in Crimea, including tanks and helicopters that began on Tuesday. Ukrainian officials have accused the Kremlin of provoking conflict and called on Russia to return all soldiers to their bases.
And then this:
- RUSSIAN FEDERATION COUNCIL AGREES TO PUTIN'S REQUEST FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION IN CRIMEA - DPA
The breakdown of the final vote:
Meanwhile:
Balaclava now. The entrance to the coast guard base pic.twitter.com/s2p6v157m5
— Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) March 1, 2014
Needless to say all of this is just for show: as we have been reporting for the past 4 days, Russian troops have long since been in Ukraine.
More importantly, it appears Putin is not very concerned about the impact his actions will have on equity futures when they open for trading on Sunday evening: but... but... the artificial "on paper" wealth effect. On the other hand, he certainly has a lot of concern to keep geopolitical events of the type that keep the price of crude high, always at arms length.
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So the Russian "CONgress" says it's legal, so it's legal.
Whose example are we following?
In the ultimate battle, Obama can out text, twitter and talk Putin. US wins and is the world power in nothing.
"In the ultimate battle, Obama can out text, twitter and talk Putin. US wins and is the world power in nothing."
Yes, the Kenyan can look like an impotent sap in multiple medias. We have the leadership we deserve.
Should be good for another 15 points up on the S&P.
When will the State Department, the White House and NATO issue a response on Facebook and Twitter?
At this point, I think that Putin should just start appending "Bitchez" to all of his official statements.
Fuck you Putin!!!
You sucker! you small minded person are starting a fire that will enflame the whole world .... God help US !
Not quite.
The US and EU started this by sending agitators and money to the opposition.
Obama statement later today:
"If you like your Crimea, you can keep it"
At this point, the easiest way we can win a war is to deploy the FSA... as settlers.
TSA too?
If they don`t uphold the Budapest memorandum everything, including NATO treaty, is up in the air.
No it's not. If anything this move by Russia will strengthen NATO
Former ambassador of the UK is „afraid” the US and UK will have to go to war with Russia if the Budapest memorandum is not upheld.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570335/Former-British-Ambassado...
"putin asks" lol
putin is the teddy roosevelt of russia.
If treaties are not upheld everything is up in the air. Ask Poland 1939.
My money says that you will not want to be an opposition person in Kiev when Vlad and company executes the plan that is likely completed by now and visits the city in a week or two.
I really do not see the Russian army in Kiev. But I guess anything is possible.
Buy phiz!
Or this:
Sarah Palin Warned in 2008 Russia Might Invade Ukraine if Obama Wins ElectionHahahahaha
Enter stage right the yappy little RINO, John McCain..... the toothless, Jack Russell.
I don’t think Vlad will blink an eye before going into Kiev full tilt boogy.
There are a few real bad guy leaders that will likely not make it out under any circumstances.. that is a good thing.
The US Administration and the EU had no freaking idea what they were doing in destabilizing Ukraine.. idiots.
WWVD?
Muppets View: At the end of all of this Russia will only control the flow of Nat Gas through Ukraine but will lose their control over Tehran. The US and Israel working with Iran behind the Scenes so Iran will finish off the Syria confilct with governement there friendly to Iran. Iran will build a big nat gas pipeline to Europe, and ties will thaw with the US, so that US gets access to Iranian crude. Western oil companies make inroads into Iran and provide expertise to develop Iranian oilfields. In the future Iran will compete with Russia to sell gas to Europe rather than russian hegemony over Eurasian continent Nat gas market as currently exists. Vlad can have Ukraine provided it is more or less bloodless and his soviet trade bloc may eventually provide competition to China for manufacturing or something. Something like that.
Read the BP statistical review.
The US doesn't need Middle East oil.
The US gets it's oil in the America's.
Most of the Middle East oil goes to SE Asia, Japan, China, India and Europe, in that order.
The biggest trade route on earth is the 5.8 million barrels a day of crude that flow from Russia to Europe.
My comment is based heavily on that very statistical review, i.e. the Nat Gas pipeline from Iran to the EU is pivotal and it will be built. My recollection of the darkest red cell on that spreadsheet is the one that shows how Russia presently has Europe by the balls for Nat Gas. Concede my assertion on West access to Iranian crude perhaps incorrect or out of left field, however the importance of Iranian crude being priced in dollars should not be underestimated. Strategically, it seems like a good trade for everyone if the West lets Vlad have Ukraine provided they don't start slaughtering people, in return for Russia dropping support for Tehran.
Sending some economic opportunity in Russia's direction via manufacturing perhaps and letting them get their trade bloc going with some support might be just the ticket to avoid war over Iran & Syria. Iran needs to choose economic activity and prosperity for their people and get rid of the hardliners.
The west has got to put a stop to Russian influence in Iran and Syria one way or another.
semper,
You're not a very good troll.
Say hi to Nuland for me.
Hugs and Kisses
superflex
The agreement to which you refer is/was a "memorandum", not a treaty.
Bill Clinton's pals may have to take up arms to enforce his administration's agreements, but the US government has zero obligation to do so.
Now, now, technically the British and the French upheld their treaty with Poland. They just couldn't get their act together in time to save Poland.
The US senate must ratify treaties. This cannot be enforceable in the US.
Still a choice, even if not a treaty.
"...will strengthen EUROPE."
All fixed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+military+emblems&rlz=1C5CHFA_enU...
Anyone else impressed they had insignia free uniforms ready to go.
Insignia patches are sewn on and easily removed.
"If they don't uphold the Budapest memo"?
If they DO uphold the Budapest memo, it's WWI redux.
This has strong echoes of the runup to WWI. Very strong. Tear up the fucking paper and move on, fercrissakes. It isn't worth 20 or 40 million dead.
In 1938 when Germany invaded the Sudetenland, noone did anything. How'd that work out for ya?
Go Chuck Hagel GO!
The fools. Why are they cheering?
Fuck the EU! End quote
Politician's families should be on the front lines.
Putin was pissed that his Health Care plan was cancelled, and he could only afford a Bronze plan.
The same old US war script, some things never change.
Yup it seems the Obozo administration still uses the old "regime toppling for dummies" book the Bush mafia bought on Fleabay. Alas (or fortunately for the balance of power on this planet), Barak now faces Putin while Bush (or whoever pulled his strings) had to deal with the impotent Yeltsin.
BIG difference... Maybe it's time to burn the book? I mean Georgia failed Syria failed Venezuela don't look too good and Ukrainia seems to be a scream.
US Foreign policy hasn't changed since Kissinger and why would it? Kissinger's still running it, personally and through proxies. Look at how many people influential in DC and the media have at least one very close connection to Henry Kissinger.
Another thing I'd suggest is that maybe none of these failed states we've been so industrious in creating is a failure? You may be misunderstanding the true goals of these Kissinger acolytes. Their true goals will not be the stated ones. Remember the old catchphrase, "Realpolitik?" You can throw out everything they say, and just look for similariities that suggest a trend.
So ignore the rhetoric and what do you see? Could it be possible that the goal of US Foreign Policy is to surround Russia and China with a ring of fire, violently chaotic failed states? Could it be concidence that the very states we've put to the torch are atop huge petroleum resources, or are positioned astride critical passage points? Could it be that the US always cozies up to the most violent and unreasonable parties in every situation? Why? Perhaps because those are the armed loonies who simply won't come to a solution, because what we want is chaos, and what we don't want is any sort of solution? Would it be our goal to hide behind our oceans, disrupt any competitor's chance to take a part of our power, take physical resources like oil and at least keep it away from a competitor? Would we shrink from using a scorched-earth policy to keep the rest of the world divided, distracted and weak, for our benefit in access to resources later?
More to the point, you need to think, Would Henry Kissinger do something like this? Ever see Peter Sellers in Dr. Strangelove? Any resemblance spring to mind?
You don't win, if you cannot HOLD the ground...
That assumes that we agree on the meaning of "win." If the goal is to create blood-soaked chaos and keep it going as long as possible, and the target is the civilian population, the ability to plant a bomb in a dumpster constitutes "holding the ground."
That assumes that we agree on the meaning of "win." If the goal is to create blood-soaked chaos and keep it going as long as possible, and the target is the civilian population, the ability to plant a bomb in a dumpster constitutes "holding the ground."
Yes, cheneys famous quagmire quote. These guys have plans, they are insane plans, but well orchestrated.
Cheney and the well orchestrated 9-11 false flag inside job treasonous US military attack against the US.
Maybe a distraction from that Truth being further recognized,
leading to the popular overthrow of the NWO plan.
The Treasonous US military will save us now?
I can't wait to see Obamas "costs" that he threatened verbally against Putin. Prolly just hot air. "You're up Barry!"
swmnguy,
I liked this:
" Could it be that the US always cozies up to the most violent and unreasonable parties in every situation? Why? Perhaps because those are the armed loonies who simply won't come to a solution, because what we want is chaos, and what we don't want is any sort of solution?"
Also, it might be partly because 'the armed loonies' are most like us-----
the two seem to fit like hand with glove
thanks for a great line
taking a minority that's violent and elevating it into a ruling class is a classic colonization strategy.
Because they are a minority they will always need colonizers support and will nurse an inferiority complex to beat down everyone else.
In "The Next Hundred Years", the Stratfor guy comes out and says that the US goal in Eurasia is maximizing chaos. Everything else is theatre.
Wait until the US cunts try to destabilize Brazil to get at the resources
At least the Russians have citizens in those country they are going in to protect. We dont even have that in the countries we invade LOL
We HAD to protect those three guys teaching English in Bagdad.
Probably the expelled President started this with all his corruption and stealing which led to there being so much opposition. We just helped them along. We did a lot less than France did for us a couple of hundred years ago under somewhat similar circumstances.
France didn't do it for you though... much like that situation you had a corrupt, dying empire (France) striking at its rival by formenting (or enabling) revolution. The American Revolution was the straw that broke France's back as a world power, though there was one last gasp with Napoleon.
History, again, appears to be rhyming.
@ Superflex:
I suppose the election of a pro-Kremlin, pro-Russian-oligarch administration in the Ukraine happened on a lark. Putin has been balls-deep into the Ukraine's internal affairs ever since the Orange Revolution upended his first attempt at turning Ukraine into a rubber stamp for his whims. Putin's allies in the Russian crime syndicates have been operating with impunity in the Ukraine ever since Yankuvych's election. And he has helped to arm the pro-Russian militias in the Ukraine for years, which are made up largely of drug running bikers and neo-Nazi skinheads who routinely brutalize the Tartar population of the Crimea.
To assign the blame for what is going down in the Ukraine solely on US and EU support for pro-democracy groups inside the Ukraine is ridiculous. The Urkaine is a square on a chess board that both sides are contesting. If you want to blame it on the US, go back to when it really started: When the US slapped Boris Yeltsin's hand of freindship aside and started pushing NATO right up to Russia's borders, Ukraine included.
The Nazi component seems to be inordinately represented by the western EU Neocon backed 'freedom fighters for democracy'.
Good background here from EIR:
http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2014/140203_ukr_fact_sheet.html
On Jan. 25, 2014, twenty-nine Ukrainian leaders of political parties, civic and religious organizations, including former presidential candidate and parliamentarian Natalia Vitrenko, sent an open letter to the United Nations Secretary General and leaders of the EU and the United States, decrying the Western support for the neo-Nazi campaign to carry out a bloody coup against a legitimately elected government.
The open letter read, in part: "You should understand that, in supporting the actions of the guerillas in Ukraine ... you yourselves are directly protecting, inciting, and egging on Ukrainian neo-Nazis and neo-fascists.
"None of these oppositionists (Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, and Tyahnybok) hide that they are continuing the ideology and the practices of the OUN-UPA.... Wherever the Euromaidan people go in Ukraine, they disseminate, besides the slogans mentioned above, neo-Nazi, racist symbols.... Also confirming the neo-Nazi nature of the Euromaidan is the constant use of portraits of the bloody executioners of our people, Bandera and Shukhevych—agents of the Abwehr."
The open letter posed the question to Western leaders: "Have the UN, the EU, and the U.S.A. ceased to recognize the Charter and Verdict of the International War Crimes Tribunal at Nuremburg, where the Hitlerite Nazis and their henchmen were convicted? Have human rights ceased to be a value for the countries of the EU and the world community? Is the Ukrainian nationalists' devotion to Hitler and his mass murders of civilians now considered democracy?"
there is a question as to "what comes after the invasion."
provided the invasion goes off as planned.
so far it all seems very cobbled together.
what happened to the billions "no strings attached" and "IMF ready to work with Russia" thingy again?
Was that before or after Putin declared the collapse of the Soviet Union the worst geopolitical event of the 20th century?
Before or after he decided his favorite element was polonium?
Obama started it again. The Russians were already there the whole time. The Crimea was given to the Ukraine by Russia in 1954 in a USSR paper shuffle. There is no way the Russians are giving their territory to Obama. Obama fkd up using tactics that work to disrupt ME culture in the heart of Eastern Europe. Not everyone is disorganized with a slave mentailty.
Start a war? Whose going to fight? The downsizing US military? NATO? The UN?
Putin will do what he likes while we turn our military into a cash cow for hardware contractors that masquerades as a diversity promoting social engineering experiment.
troll or serious?
God help Americans from the dual citizen Congress people and govt workers. \
breaking point has been reached and passed.
to organize a coup in Ukraine which Putin stated was a red-line, and during olympics was asinine.
there is no way Russia would back off.
not sure what cool head there are left, and this thing is just starting a vortex.
it is encouraging that invasion is fairly quiet, unlike the "shock-and-awe" campaigns.
I think the militarization of the public/media sphere is to ignite a counter-revolution in the main land, not necessarily invade.
Chill out, Arius.
Putin's only protecting his immediate sphere of influence. At least he's not in our hemisphere pushing the Russian weight around. The U.S. does this all the time. Where's your angst over our hubris?
But, but Barry sez NO!
FORWARD SOVIET PALS!
Barry and Vlad plan to hook up on Tinder.
Yeah but way to go Barry.. Stirring up shit all over the world thinking he would look more presidential facing off with real leaders like Putin after Barry fucked us over with Obamacare and not punishing the banksters he should have!
This mess in the Ukraine is all about Obama trying to regain some political power same as all the other shit he's fucked us with!
Hope all of you libtards who voted for that moron are happy with the major war we're about to have cause of his fucking ego!
Stirring up shit all over the world thinking he would look more presidential facing off with real leaders like Putin
Funny you guys going on about libertarianism and then adoring insane authoritarians like Putin.
And get the fuck over Obama already, gawd, the levels of obsession are like teenage girls lusting after elvis. The US is not run by Obama.
Comments about Obama are comments about the secret leadership.
You think Obama is the brains behind these doings?!? Hmm, you almost make him sound like a real leader...
They already gave CNN 's Barbara Starr & Stephen Hayes the low down on the show down:
Admin officials tell CNN's Barbara Starr this is an "uncontested arrival" not necessarily "an invasion" and that this distinction is "key."
5:13 PM - 28 Feb 2014 Its sorta like "kinetic military action" not being described as war or aggression or provocation...its sumpin to do with hiding the skid marks in the underwear I think.What is a CNN?
A fountain of watery shit.
Ever so gald that somebody reports upon that crap so I don't have to watch it.
Thank you.
And what else would we be expecting form CNN, Knukies?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....?
We should stay out of this. But you have to laugh at "uncontested arrival". Reminds you of Hitler's uncontested arrival in the German parts of Austria in 1938.
Yes, we do need to stay out of it...let the French & Italians have at them...lol.
It was only Monday that Hagel proposed a smaller military, a moar nimble military, a smarter military. Right about in here is where we truly need a narcissistic, community organizer-in-chief (a social worker if you will) to give flowery speeches that shows he understands this new complexity and can therefore command it effectively given his position.
I mean, he's done so well with everything else he's touched ;-)
Classic...
lol...he's like President Joe Btfsplk (a Li'l Abner character) got that bad luck cloud over his head wherever he goes...we just have to recognize him coming toward us and avoid him.
Here ya go, one of his latest "bad luck charms":
“I just had a chance to take a look at some of those spiffy new trains,” Obama said Wednesday of the expansion of Minneapolis’ Metro light rail.
“They are nice and they’re energy efficient. They’re going to be reliable. You can get from one downtown to the other in a little over 30 minutes instead of when it’s snowing being in traffic for two hours.”
So far, so good right? One might even say, progress...lol.
"A Central Corridor light-rail test train rolled off the tracks on Cedar Street in downtown St. Paul on Wednesday afternoon…
The minor derailment occurred as the northbound train, which was not carrying passengers, attempted a turn at Twelfth Street just before rush hour. It was leaving downtown headed toward Minneapolis about 4 p.m.
Crews working on the derailment hooked up another train to pull the derailed car back onto the tracks. The train was back on the tracks just after 6 p.m., according to a Metro Transit spokesman."
What could have possibly caused this derailment and two hour delay, apart from President Joe Btfsplk's appearance and promotion of it?
“Wheels on the lead car came off the tracks because of snow that had accumulated in the rail right of way,” Metro Transit spokesman Drew Kerr confirmed in a written statement Wednesday evening, adding that there was no apparent damage to the tracks.
Kerr said crews inspect tracks “on a regular basis to make sure snow is removed and there’s no impediments to operation.”
But it remained unclear Wednesday whether such an inspection had been done at the derailment site in the wake of the biggest snowfall of the season."
Wait, snow, two hour delays, rush hour traffic, wut?
I thought President Joe Btfsplk just said..oh never mind, he said it, so it must be true.
Spiffy ;-)
Obama and Minnesota in a nutshell.
It's the Fucking Weather!
SEE
I
TODJA
SO
faceplant in palms, sobbing uncontrollably after such a nice start to the day
Wait, snow in Minneapolis? I find that hard to believe -- you're just making stuff up!
(meanwhile, We're freezin' our bunz off here in SW Minnesota!)
ahhh....they puts together such nice window dressing, arrangements, and garnish (Chief Catsup dealer).
Tell Chucky that we'll have a 'smarter' military when they stick to their core mission, and not stick their nose and our people where neither belongs.
nmewn
Vlad to Barry: "I want you to stop smashing your face into my fist"
Thats about right.
Or this, caught on open mics, captured for posterity:
President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it’s important for him to give me space.
President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you…
President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.
President Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.
Bend over Ukraine, here it comes.
Not long ago, had this exchange between a US President and a Russian politician been scripted in a cheesy spy movie, people would have laughed themselves silly at the improbability of it.
Obama the Communist.
Orwell was so correct about politics and language.
That is the deepest rabbit hole...
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/the-deep-perversion-of-language/
From the link:
"Control language and control the world. It’s really that simple. Social engineering in broad daylight, by diktat.
If there is no word for something, it falls out of our memory, individual and collective. No point of reference, no-word to hang a memory tag on.
Here is another way to look at it.
Can you think of anything that has no word associated with it?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…."
===
Syme and Winston Smith are having lunch in the cafeteria discussing NewSpeak:
Syme: "How will you say "freedom is slavery" when freedom no longer exists?"
https://archive.org/details/Meatpies_1984
Once he's finished establishing new intelligence and military bases in Cuba, Venezuela, and Vietnam, I hope Putin will be prepared to defend the U.S. against China. I don't want to live under the Chinese.
Buy a gun.
Waddya mean "a" gun??
Or can I buy another gun?!
" I don't want to live under the Chinese"
Hey 90% of the planet lives under a US regime thru petro-dollar or thru the USD as a world reserve currency. A turn of tables seems timely and wnated
. I think the Chinese will preserve Europe (which is harmless to them) BUT the US and Japan are in for a buttfuck aka a looong humiliation session (10-15 years?)
Hey Frenchie so you're willing to roll over to the lesser of two evils?
Whatever happened to everybody taking care of their own and not giving these megalomaniacs any power.
DaddyO
Huh?
The Frenchies defending... what?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=french+military+victories
Having been screwed by the Brits, the Chinese have a special "Circle of T(h)rust" for them also.
"When will the State Department, the White House and NATO issue a response on Facebook and Twitter?"
The State Department is waiting on Youtube videos for evidence of atrocities. Hollywood is preparing for the Oscars so apologies for the delay.
does appear "diplomacy has failed."
Turkey gonna bust a move here? "sink the Black Sea fleet"?
could make resupply operations into Syria more challenging.
messy, messy, messy...
Maybe they should spy on Putin through his webcam until he gives up.
Ha!
Hmmmm....let's see....East Ukraine, West Ukraine.... Update Google maps.......There! Fixed it!
better not split in two.
that would mean the invasion did not go off as planned.
Kiev would be still be an "open City"...could see a dramatic rush to defend "the Maiden."
I agree if the Russians haul up the heavy artillery there won't be much left to defend at that point. What was this thing all about again?
It's fascinating to watch the American "brand" of foreign policy emulated by another country.
... and gold up 25$ monday!
Then down 100 on tuesday....
maybe the next US-diplomat will come forward with uttering something like "fuck the EU"
Silly Putin. Obama doesn't even ask Congress for permission to unilaterally invade other countries to "protect the national interest of the U.S."
Well, thank God our previous Secretary of State used that easy 'Reset Button' from Staples to magically reorder our relations with Russia, or the US would look really silly and impotent right now! She's undoubtedly 'The Smartest Woman in the World.'
"Well, thank God our previous Secretary of State used that easy 'Reset Button' from Staples to magically reorder our relations with Russia, or the US would look really silly and impotent right now! She's undoubtedly 'The Smartest Woman in the World.'"
And even better, The Smartest Woman in the World is plotted to become the NEXT prez of the USSA, the would-be first ever female prezident!!!
But only the 2nd homosexual president. One too late on that category.
Banksters playing the Socialist hand again.
she sure bailed outta the state dept. at the right time.
Pure campaign timing.
Obozo doesn't ask because he couldn't even bribe a majority vote out of a collective of kleptocrats.
Shrub wasn't noticeably better, he had the advantage burning buildings and a cry for war against a herd of mere goat fuckers... to complement his MSM sycophants beating of the war drums (before they bated their display and returned to their traditional corners within the false paradigm). Yet Shrub could not deliver unanimity on AUMF on September 14, and by late October the Patriot Act raised the voices of dissent by 66 votes.
At least someone is raising the bar instead of lowering it.
Obama must think Putin is a chump because he can't just issue Executive orders.
When the ultimate battle commences, the US will simply broadcast Yellen pole dancing naked, at every frequency across Russia. They have been warned.
Every armed person will immediately turn their weapon on themselves and tens of millions of soldiers will be dead in the ensuing seconds. Peace will flow over the earth, and Obama, in his goodness, shall watch over us all the days of our lives. And lo, the oceans themselves will heal, radiation shall flow back into the Fukushima reactor, and all ice caps will be fully restored.
That's the most inhumane weapon system ever.
Why don't we give him to Mongo?
Mongo?! Holy shit, that's too cruel!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-cidmJ4b4nhtbb/blazing_saddles_1974_give_him_to_mongo/
A weapon of mass revulsion.
I was tempted to Down-vote or phaser stun you just for that nasty visual.
I think I'm gonna be sick. Bones, McCoy!
Ack-Ack-Ack!
Nonsense. The Geneva conventions outlaw weapons that cause "superfluous suffering."
No way. It's against the Geneva conventions.
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Paul Craig Roberts take on this:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2014/3/1_Dr._Pa...
I heard some interviews on Ukraine recently by those who have no experience in international matters at all. (One guy was a US pilot in the Vietnam war, the other a businessman.) They were talking about 'what's really going on ' including the behind the scenes actions & motivations of the parties involved. They made 'predictions' of the future. They said all this with great conviction. Some (most) of their statements were based on 'prophecies' from their religion. - - Believe what you want, that's fine. But substituting 'prophecy' for hard evidence regarding specific matters should raise skepticism by the listeners.
The vast majority of us have no idea what's really happening in Ukraine. Unless we receive the intel agency reports from all those engaged, - for us its all nothing but interesting speculation. Its likely a good idea not to take our own opinions too seriously. We may disagree with the other guy - while both of us are completely in the dark and completely wrong.
He is mostly right, except Putin didn't wait for anybody to regain their senses.
Unlike most armchair analysts, Putin is a former military. He has been trained by an elite institution of the former USSR (KGB), and as a result he is himself an elite soldier. He KNOWS the value of both TIME and INITIATIVE. He is already taking action and turning "de facto" all areas of interest in Eastern Ukraine, in Russian controlled "safe zones". There is a deep irony in the fact that Russian controlled zones will become the only relatively safe and close to normality areas, in the huge mess that is to sweep Ukraine during the coming weeks. Think of a French revolution on steroids...
Rootin' Tootin' Putin.
Does anyone know if they are dumping US Treasuries?
They don't have any, they have shiny.
Well of course by "we" I mean "Putin". Admittedly, the example is an ancient one; legislatures of large powers throughout history have always seemed to rubber-stamp foreign military adventures. Our CONgress uses it, as now has the Russian.
And now, 9/11 lite?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/24/chuck-hagel-us-can-affor...
Monday, February 24, 2014
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Monday that the Army must shrink to pre-World War II troop levels to preserve funding for elite counterterrorism operations and maintain the cybersecurity programs needed to counter threats by emerging rivals such as China.
I guess they already knew Ukraine was going to spin out of control and Putin would have to intervene. Remember how Rumsfeld annouced, the day before 9/11, the $2Trillion missing from the defense budget (which no one has ever looked into because we're too busy chasing "terrorists")? Are we now looking at a new, manufactured excuse for keeping / raising military spending? Why don't we park a warship in the Black Sea somewhere and have someone attack it, maybe from the "littorals", and then we can resuscitate the littoral ship program, too? Win / Win! "We really wanted to cut defense spending but we couldn't, darn those Russians!"
The army must be shrunk to the point where DHS/NSA/CIA/FEMA/Cops can take it on and win. This Ukraine thing is a side show, a false flag, possibly - to show how weak Obama appears to the domestic audience. Don't be fooled. He'll have Americans killed anywhere in the world at the drop of a hat.
Perhaps in reducing our military the only troops left will be loyal to Obama, just like the SS was to Hitler.
What an interesting notion, and a clever way to deal with the unknown loyalties of the Army rank and file.
Where's the Gipper when you need him?
wow check mate
Vladimir Putin made an appeal to the Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.
“In connection with the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, the threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation,
It's a perfect storm, Obama showing he is weak, Snowden exposing the truth and the hard man Putin showing he means business all at the same time. Putin has balls while Obama is jogging around the White House.
Putin has his faults, but does what he does and sticks to it. Obama wants to be friends with Oprah in the nice nice liberal we all get a medal world.
"In the ultimate battle, Obama can out text, twitter and talk Putin. US wins and is the world power in nothing."
Don't Forget Out Twerk! The four T's Ozman!
thank you mr. Putin for standing up to the rothschild armies of darkness.
If history as we know it is correct, are the Rothschilds not funding both sides in this conflict?
Possibly. but the key is the desired outcome.
Perhaps the desired outcome is chaos - "Ordo Ab Chao".
or further wealth, resource, and sovereignty extraction?
It's what we don't see going on that always concerns me the most.
>> ordo ab chao
certainly by one side. and though one can never be one hundred percent certain about this sort of thing... and people can change course, i don't believe that Putin intends that end. in other words, the nwo is not inevitable. great men, known and unknown, can change the course of history. and, a little divine intervention never hurts either.
Divine intervention now means Enterprise protection from Clingons.
(anybody get the double entendre?) ;-)
Dammit Jim, I'm a wooden robot, not a scriptwriter!
The desired outcome is always more profits, no matter how many die as long as the 1% on any side are safe.
golden bathtubs and peak population