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Ukraine's Acting President Puts All Armed Forces On Full Combat Alert
In a stunning 24 hours, it now appears that Russia and the Ukraine are one formal announcement away from a state of war. From moments ago, as reported by Bloomberg:
- UKRAINE ACTING PRESIDENT PUTS ALL FORCES ON FULL COMBAT ALERT
And this, as reported by the NYT, virtually assures the escalation to a hot war, as some provocation, somewhere will certainly take place: "a Ukrainian military official in Crimea said Ukrainian soldiers had been told to “open fire” if they came under attack by Russia troops or others."
From Reuters:
Ukraine put its armed forces on full combat alert on Saturday and warned Russia that any military intervention in the country would lead to war.
After a more than three-hour meeting with security and defence chiefs, Acting President Oleksander Turchinov said there was no justification for what he called Russian aggression against his country.
Standing beside Turchinov, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said he had urged Russia to return its troops to base in the Crimea region during a phone call with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and called for talks.
"Military intervention would be the beginning of war and the end of any relations between Ukraine and Russia," Yatseniuk told reporters.
Finally, this:
- Ukraine protects all Ukrainians, acting President Oleksandr Turchynov says in Kiev briefing.
- Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk: “diverting funds for military”
- Turchynov: untrue that Russians are under threat
- Turchynov: no reason for Putin request
- Turchynov calls for national unity
- Yatsenyuk says to take all measures to ensure peace
- Yatsenyuk: no reason for Russia to intervene in Ukraine
Too late.
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It's better to be a lion for a day than a sheep all your life
Dear Europe,
Warm your homes with furniture.
Vlad
NO NUKES Please...
Enough SHIT Coming Out Of FukuRamma...
It's a good thing you said "please" or the nukes would already be flying.
Comrades,
Let us break every window, on every street, in every city, in this glorious homeland.
Forward! To the economic recovery!
For Keynes
For the economy
For Obama
to the moon
Owe-Bomba vs Putin ....
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/C/c/3/putin-vs-obama.jpg
VLAD Has An AXe To Grind...
Is It With The FED & MONEY Manip?????????????
Exactly how much US debt does Russia own? $460 billion or thereabouts? What would a debt dump do to the dollar?
NO GOLF... For OBAMMA This Weekend!!!
Don't be so sure about that:
'Obama Skips National Security Team Meeting on Russia, Ukraine'http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-skips-national-security-team-m...
"Obama Skips National Security Team Meeting"
Was he invited? Maybe he is not trusted...
Wow, I want to up arrow that because it's relevant but then it would feel like I'm supporting the POS POTUS.
'Obama Skips National Security Team Meeting on Russia, Ukraine'
"Take the afternoon off Barry. Chill. Relax. We need you back at 6pm to read the teleprompter though. And Barry, come back with your serious face. So, remember when Barney drank Fred's Cactus Cola and how upset Fred was? Yeah, baby, yeah! That's the face!"
You don't believe that he makes any real decisions, do you?
He can play golf, or with himself, until the script writers have loaded up the teleprompter.
"Ukraine's Acting President (!?) Puts All Armed Forces On Full Combat Alert"
Who is the "Acting President of Ukraine"? In Ukraine today there is no "acting president." In Ukraine today there is only one legitimate, democratically elected President - Yanukovych. And also there is an illegitimate Pretender, who came to power through unconstitutional and undemocratic way - with weapons and through bloodshed. Surname of the criminal and impostor - Turchinov. Eventually he and his whole gang will be arrested and prosecuted.
Criminals, who seized power in Kiev undemocratic, unconstitutional, with arms in their hands, through bloodshed, have no right to make any statement on behalf of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. Criminal rebels illegitimate.
Ukrainian Jews adjusting to life in uncertain times
"On Tuesday, Parliamentary Speaker [sic] and interim President [sic] Oleksander Turchinov told Rabbi Dov Bleich, a Ukrainian chief rabbi and president of the Jewish Confederation of Ukraine, that the government would 'make every effort to guard the Jewish community.'"
The Ukranians better check their pockets.
And if the people of these states united rose up to turn over the moneychanger's tables and cast down their overlords in DC (Obama, Biden, "Bohner," Cantor, Pelosi, et al...). you would denouce the agitatorss as "illegitimate criminals."
Indeed, perhaps you view the Founding Fathers in the same light, having cast out the "legitimate" British monarchists who once ruled the 13 colonies?
Maybe the names changed, but the rulership stayed the same. Revolutionary War history is a nest of pit vipers. Same as it ever was.
The Fed we have now is Fed III. Who controlled Fed I and II?
I look at the face of Putin and think about the fate of the rebels, who committed an armed coup in Kiev on money of CIA. And who now call themselves "presidents" and "ministers" of Ukraine. I think the lives of all these people will be bright, but not long.
Soon they will begin to flee the country like rats from a sinking ship. But it will not help them.
You simply MUST try the Polonium tea, it's to die for!
I can see the conversation between two navy officers Boris from Ukraine and Vlad from Russia over the phone:
Boris: hey vlad been a while since the academy buddy how are you
Vlad: Great just set up my dacha in the countryside for the summer how bout you?
Boris: oh just living with my wife and little son and my parents and her parents in a two bedroom apt, we keep the thermostat low to save money
Vlad: what about Julia your older daughter
Boris: oh she went to Israel to do some au paire job she says pays lots of money, havent heard from her I am worried...
Vlad: I am looking to retire form the navy in a few years, got a nice pension and a job teaching at the academy lined up how bout you
Boris: Vlad I dont know if I will even have a pension or get paid by this take over govt.
Vlad: Boris come back to the Mother Russia Armed Forces, we can get you a nice payraise, new equipment, nice dacha, not to mention your gas bill will be a lot less
Criminals who seized power.......
Pretty much sums up the world we live in.
Don't be distracted. Anyone who wants power over others is the last person should be given it.
Wake the fuck up!
The Acting PM's name is Kiev Robert, or Kiev Bob for short.
He's no chicken: He assures the citizens that they have the enemy surrounded, and will defeat them everywhere.
Hopefully the Chinese Dragon will use this opportunity to take back their Diaoyu Islands.
A couple of days ago I suggested that Putin's strategy should be to target all their nukes and then ask the US to leave the Ukraine alone.
The only way to stop the Limousine Psychopaths running the US is to face them down and the sooner the better.
"Hopefully the Chinese Dragon will use this opportunity to take back their Diaoyu Islands."
Sorry Mr. Klitschko, sorry Mr. Turchynov. We cannot help you because all our mercenaries are now very busy in Syria. I wish you success, yours truly - Obama.
Does Obama know he's being protrayed as a limp wristed feminized flaming homosexual?
Hell, he's counting on it. Might get him more manmeat which is all he wants (other than dogmeat).
I presume manmeat is on the menu in Man's Country, Chicago ?
"You will taste manflesh!!" -- Saruman
I thought that was the current fad...
Putin doesn't answer to anyone.
Haven't the West figured that out yet?
Central Asia, the Black Sea, the Caspian... We have no power there. The Far East? No power their either.
This isn't 2002. The world has changed.
There is nothing anyone can do to remove Russia from Crimea. Nobody can even get near Crimea.
not even Mr. Mom Jeans?
If Moochelle pointed her ass in the right direction she could get close to Crimea.
Putin doesn't answer to anyone.
Haven't the West figured that out yet?
Central Asia, the Black Sea, the Caspian... We have no power there. The Far East? No power their either.
Exactly. And everyone please note: I am not sayting I admire him for it, I am simply acknowledging it as a FACT.
is this just in relation to Ukraine or to the world at large?
You see...right now his "intelligence units" are warning of impending torpedo attacks against the entirety of the Russian Black Sea fleet right now.
If there are Ukrainian "special forces" lying in wait this thing might not go off exactly as planned. God forbid if the Russian "incursion" is stopped dead in its tracks.
Then people start asking questions like "why are we invading an otherwise helpless sovereign state again"...
"You see...right now his "intelligence units" are warning of impending torpedo attacks against the entirety of the Russian Black Sea fleet right now."
Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah ... right now.
This reminds me of Hitler in his bunker commanding armies he doesn't even have. These right wing neo nazi bozzos are commanding fictitious armies they dont have. Why would any Ukrainian officer sign away his standard of living to become a Euro Slave when he can have a good life, pension, dacha, and payraise if they rejoin the Russian army. I expect a lot of no shows at the Ukrainian military rally.
Don't expect the US to broker any peace, our team only knows war. Probably just ordered a truckload of Jiffy pop for the executive situation room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzmZublAOk
guns guns guns
cmon fellas
A country could be really hard to invade if every home had someone in it with a rifle and the training to use it.
If every window is potentially deadly, it's going to slow things down considerably.
That's the thing many miss about gun control.
It would obvioustly smarten up the local pols too. (2nd Ammendment, and all that)
Not at all. Japan is the lesson. Nuke several large US cities and everyone will be turning in their weapons - or their neighbors will be turning them in.
Coward.
Pleasant chatter in the UN...so far delightful.
UN Stakeout Camera
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/u-n-security-council-stakeout-camera-n42021
O.K. - - there's a lot of Russkie sounding names out there now (in this article & everywhere else) what team are Amuricans suppose to root for now ? And which side would most be like the Broncos and which would most be like the Seahawks ?
That whole "Al Qaeda are now our friends in Syria" deal confused a lot of folks.
Well dont root for the western radical Ukrainians, they are great for brain washing the masses about these so called freedom fighters, don't buy into this slop folks as these extremist radical racists would be locked up in a second if they tried their violence in any western capital to bring about change. Yanukovich, a corrupt politician should have been voted out in the next election without bloodshed. All the new stooges on the scene are former members or current members of Tymoshenkos party. We will never see her houses in Ukraine or the Gold Coast of the Mediterranean.
Many peeps forget about EU not paying their Russia gas bill. Pay your bills or get turned off. The fucking EU carpetbaggers never learn.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a545411.pdf
if US or EU decide to give ukraine financial help, they should so in cash. it's quite difficult to heat homes with with bits and bytes on the bank account. also true with bitcoins, except for the mining of course.
So the unelected "president" of the Ukraine, puts the armed forces on alert to face down the Russian military, and Obammy and the Boyz in Europe want to talk on the phone and hold their breath, because their mad!!!
I think the "elected" President of the Ukraine will be back in Kiev by next Saturday night?? Those Euromaiden cats might want to get the barricades burning again, and fast!
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a radical member of "Svoboda" party in Kiev has declared that Ukrain should build up nuclear arsenal to counter Russia and it could be done in 6 month
I fuckin hope so. They already make the rockets to deliver them. They should be able to delay for 6 months "Afghanistan" style. What this shows is unless you have nukes you are fucked...
Bullshit, it's not 1955 anymore, no one that has national interests in mind, is fucking using nukes!!! That's a god damn red herring from 40 years ago! The science is pretty clear on what happens to everyone, if those fucking idiots do it!!
China knows it, Russia knows it and so does the US! If tactical nukes were an option on the battlefield today, we or the Israelis would have used them long ago in the ME!!
"Mutual assured destruction" is a poker hand, it's not a fucking military option!! What's interesting about all this is, the Russians are finally calling it, just that way! You got nukes NATO, ok fucking use them, we are moving real assets to the battlefield to secure natural resources and infrastructure, it's your move!
assuming national interests are what's in mind......
Previously existing Soviet Nuke weapons that were dismantled?
"a radical member of "Svoboda" party in Kiev has declared that Ukrain should build up nuclear arsenal to counter Russia and it could be done in 6 month"
All a radical member of "Svoboda" party, will be eliminated in the most democratic way in the world - via missile attacks of USA Russian drones.
Seriously, what will happen to Crude oil prices Sunday/Monday? Be serious
No sweat. We will just dump all of our remaining potable water down 20,000 new fracking wells. Voila', energy independence.
Americans are TV and Hollywood brainwashed sheep. The US Govt, O and the NWO make themsleves. I bet 70% of ZH readers still watch TV and support it all with their viewership.
Did this
acting president" know the secret password(s), ar can just anyone order Ukrainian military assets around?
Bet some Ukranian military uniforms mysteriously appear in dumpsters.
If I were in the Ukranian military I would come down with the flu yesterday.
Not the guns, though.
Nothing quite like a long brutal occupation to distract the masses.
Civil war in Ukraine seems very opporunistic / mutually benefiical for us/eu & russia.
It worked for Yugoslavia. The EU made out like bandits.
Kiev less than 500 miles from Moscow. Russian people are not thrilled about NATO cruise missiles on the border.
Why not buy a few Iron Dome? /sarc
How about a few F-35's that kill their pilots? That's always a popular purchase.
U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (April 11, 2013)
"In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion military aid package spanning from Fiscal Year (FY) 2009 to Fiscal Year 2018. During his March 2013 visit to Israel, President Obama pledged that the United States would continue to provide Israel with multi-year commitments of military aid subject to the approval of Congress."
"The Act also provides for $479.736 million in joint U.S.-Israeli missile defense programs, including $211 million for Iron Dome, $149.679 million for David’s Sling, $74.692 million for Arrow III, and $44.365 million for Arrow II."
How much is provided for the KNESSET BROTHEL BILL? It will go up once all those HOT Ukrainian girls are brought over to Tel Aviv
Russian girls trapped in sex-slave nightmare
"Newspaper reporter Yaroslava Tankova went undercover to expose the work of the trafficking mafia. She joined a group of Russian girls promised jobs as waitresses overseas. They were trafficked to Israel via Egypt and smuggled across the desert by Beduins."
"In Israel the girls became the property of local pimps. Their passports were confiscated and they were forced into the sex trade."
Russia sentences Israeli to 18 years for sex trafficking
"According to the court, from 1999 to 2007, Avi Yanai and his accomplices sold hundreds of women for prostitution to Israel, Italy, Spain, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates and other countries."
"The women were lured from Moldova, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus and Uzbekistan."
"The Russian prosecutors said that Yanay would frequently accompany the women he sold to Israel, to personally present them to local mobsters. They said he would use a foreign passport on these trips."
Israel - Facts on Trafficking and Prostitution
"Traffickers and pimps earned US$50,000 - 100,000 a year from each prostituted woman, resulting in a US$450 million sex industry. ('A modern form of slavery,' The Jerusalem Post, 13 January 1998)"
"Russian women are bought and sold by pimps in Israel for prices ranging from US$5,000 to $20,000. (Police sources, ''Invisible' Women Shown In Russia's Demographics,' Martina Vandenberg, St. Petersburg Times, 13 October 1997)"
"A small brothel with ten women can make up to 750,000 shekels a month (US $215,000). (Michael Specter, 'Traffickers’ New Cargo: Naive Slavic Women,' New York Times, 11 January 1998)"
"Women trafficked from Eastern Europe, were stripped and sold naked as slaves to Tel Aviv traders for US$500-1,000. Smuggling, fraudulent documents, collaboration between police and brothel owners are involved. There are routine brutal beatings and sexual abuse. (New York Times 11 January 1998)"
"While trafficked women are frequently arrested as illegal workers, the men who brought them to Israel -- many of whom are Israeli citizens -- are not."
"The problem is there is no law [in 'Israel'] against trafficking people, and no law against prostitution."
"Israel does not have a specific law against the sale of human beings. (Michael Specter, 'Traffickers’ New Cargo: Naive Slavic Women,' New York Times, 11 January 1998)"
"There is no law related to bringing women from another country into Israel for prostitution. (CEDAW Report, 8 April 1997)"
I've heard many people say, with slavish awe, things like "the military is backing the currency, so I support it" and similar. So it is already like an occupation for those.
Nothing quite like a long brutal occupation to distract the masses.
Not gonna happen. This will be over quickly.
Attack on Ukraine = attack on NATO
1997 Charter on a Distinctive Partnership
between the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and Ukraine:
14. NATO Allies will continue to support Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, territorial integrity, democratic development, economic prosperity and its status as a non-nuclear weapon state, and the principle of inviolability of frontiers, as key factors of stability and security in Central and Eastern Europe and in the continent as a whole.
15. NATO and Ukraine will develop a crisis consultative mechanism to consult together whenever Ukraine perceives a direct threat to its territorial integrity, political independence, or security.
16. NATO welcomes and supports the fact that Ukraine received security assurances from all five nuclear-weapon states parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear weapon state party to the NPT, and recalls the commitments undertaken by the United States and the United Kingdom, together with Russia, and by France unilaterally, which took the historic decision in Budapest in 1994 to provide Ukraine with security assurances as a non-nuclear weapon state party to the NPT.
Poland will ask for it, Baltic states will ask for it, Romania and Hungary will ask for it.
Invasion of Ukraine=Poland 1939 or WW3.
All of those words are very nice, but there's nothing in them to say how NATO will respond in the event of a coup, even a coup run by NATO members.
Besides, who is to say that Russia isn't doing its best to "ensure Ukrainian security" after an obvious coup?
Besides, the DC pundits have already said there is no military response.
Relax and enjoy the show.
unless its on a teleprompter dear leader wont read it.
Are you referring to the same NATO that ran out of ammuntion attacking Libya?
...and money
Only until the gold was 'liberated'.
"14. NATO Allies will continue to support Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, territorial integrity, democratic development,"
Well, the West has already violated its sovereignty, independence, and democratic development. Russia is working on the territorial integrity.
Throw that piece of paper in the circular file with all the other bullshit documents.
Code words with secret meanings.
"Code words with secret meanings."
NLP for linguistic elements of provocation :
- " Holodomor " - there is no such word in the dictionary, it's newspeak .
Purpose - introduction into people's minds , the myth of the genocide of
Ukrainians from the Russian . To divide the Slavs through historical hatred
and thus gain power over them .
- " Kosovars " - there is no nation in the world is Newspeak . Purpose -
introduction into people's minds , the myth of the nation , which has the
right to self-determination. People had to think so, because if there is no
nation, there is no right to self-determination. Therefore ordinary Albanians
living in Kosovo, Western propaganda began to call "people Kosovars".
- " EU and NATO " - there is no such unit , and legal concepts. This phrase is
used to embed in people's minds the idea that " the EU" and " NATO " - is a
common unit . The purpose - to intimidate slaves.
I propose to go further. I suggest using the phrase "EuNATO". Or "EuNATO of USA"
Yeah Ok, so it's an attack on NATO. So? What are you going to do about it?
BITCHEZ!
"Yeah Ok, so it's an attack on NATO. So? What are you going to do about it?"
In the world there is no NATO. In the world there is only the United States and their vassals. Oh, sorry, sorry - allies vassals of course... LOL
NATO's Eastward Expansion: Did the West Break Its Promise to Moscow?
smart people dont give up their guns
anyone from connecticut?
... or register their guns !
Not me, but I am still wondering what CT lawmakers are going to do with the big FUCK YOU all of those gun owners who didn't register their rifles just gave them. People are finally starting to wake up.
Unfortunately I live in Connecticut JohnQ...
you need the names of the best pizza joints perhaps?
I moved last August. Smartest thing I've ever done. When The Sandy Hook bullshit started I knew it was time to leave. That state is dying a slow miserable and liberal death. Good luck to the good people there. Such a shame that a state so beautiful can be run by such a collection of utter fuckheads. Sikorsky just lost out on a Def contract due to the taxes and jobs were lost. Place is a fuckin mess.
All the states are dying from governmentalism. Doesn't matter which color.
Funny how the Ukrainian military has been totally silent -- suspiciously silent -- to all the events to date. Significant. Interesting.
Reports from Kiev are that the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy on deployment in the Mediterranean Sea has hauled down the Ukraian Flag and Naval Ensigns and hoisted those of Russia and the Russian Navy. Reported to have changed course and headed for the Black Sea Port of Sevastopol. Kiev;s democratic people;s government has asked Turkey to stop the ship in the straights and prevent it's sailing on to Crimea. No word from Turkey yet on if they plan to confront the heavily armed vessel.
They can help protect Sevastopol from the imminent Ukrainian naval attack.
:P
How do you fight a 'war' with no oil or gas? Or is NATO ready to pump?
The Chinese must be laughing their asses off over this one.
And when do we find out the US and Israel is supplying military weapons and parts to both sides? 1,2,3 . . .
Just yesterday someone posted a link to an Israeli paper/site, that ex-IDF guys are in the Ukraine. Look it up.
Despite calls for neutrality in Ukraine protests, young Jews are on the front lines
"Despite calls by Jewish leaders to remain neutral, young Jews have been on the front lines of protests against Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich."
"Alexandra Oleynikova, a young Jewish activist involved in organizing Limmud conferences, told [The Jerusalem Post] that while some Jews stayed away out of fear, others had flocked to Maidan."
"These Jewish protesters, she said, 'stand there nights and days; they really live there now and they help people who come to find accommodations. They bring food and they collect money.'"
"Some young Ukrainian Jews who work for international organizations such as JDC, Hillel and Limmud are 'really active' in offering support as well as 'organizing the barricades,' Oleynikova said."
"On November 30, when government forces staged a massive push against the barricades, attacking and beating protesters, she said, 'my friends were on the front lines of the fighting against the troops.'"
"Reading about the protests on Facebook and seeing anti-Semitic comments is different from the reality on the ground, Oleynikova added."
Israeli ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports
"According to reports, the unnamed Israeli commands a group of 20 Ukrainian militants."
"Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev."
"Meanwhile, Ukrainian media said that an Israeli tycoon provides financial support to the opposition in Ukraine, adding that Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency is one of the instigators of the unrest in the country."
Victoria Nuland spoke at the National Press Club on December 13, 2013 - Video
Victoria Nuland (jew) admitted that the US government has spent over five billion dollars to subvert the Ukrainian government.
Perhaps because of the Syria stalemate.
RUS News
All Ukrainian armed forces stationed on the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and blocked parts disarmed. This was stated by First Deputy Prime Minister Rustam Temirgaliev Crimea during a press conference, "Interfax".
A considerable part of Ukrainian security officials "went over to the Crimeans." Now Republican domination moved SBU structure and MOE.
First Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea also said that self-defense units blocked the runways of all Crimean airfields.
http://tvrain.ru/articles/vse_chasti_ukrainskoj_armii_v_krymu_blokirovan...
Israel newspapers admit that former Israeli special forces person has been running a team of trained protestors in Kiev. Shock troops if you like. Israeli papers claim the revolution is not anti Jew, apparently this is a Russian lie, and Ukrainan jews are supporting the revolution. If you believe what Israeli papers write.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
"Reports from Kiev are that the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy on deployment in the Mediterranean Sea has hauled down the Ukraian Flag and Naval Ensigns and hoisted those of Russia and the Russian Navy. Reported to have changed course and headed for the Black Sea Port of Sevastopol. Kiev;s democratic people;s government has asked Turkey to stop the ship in the straights and prevent it's sailing on to Crimea. No word from Turkey yet on if they plan to confront the heavily armed vessel."
The Ukrainian Navy flaghip is a Krivak (II) class frigate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_frigate_Hetman_Sahaydachniy_%28U1...
Yep.....t's clearly going to open up a can of whoop ass with that 4" cannon and the point-defense SAMs.....
If the quote is true - it's not so much about the armament, but it is representative of the political leanings. It means they are choosing their sides and the fact that it is a "flagship" that it becomes more significant.
Anyways, interesting to see how the undecided would fall into line.
Not saying that it would happen - if say some far out scenario with US military bases around the world - what if US mainland splits up suddenly. How would the bases/units spreadout across the world pledge their allegiance? There would be a lot of confusion out there with knowing which is the right side to support. It'd make a great book/movie/tv show.
"If the quote is true - it's not so much about the armament, but it is representative of the political leanings. It means they are choosing their sides and the fact that it is a "flagship" that it becomes more significant."
The ship is militarily irrelevant. I wouldn't want to call its allegiance at this point though. This is symptomatic of a civil war.
Tough to say who carried the day on the decision (if true) to switch flags....the command or the crew.
History in the making though, and possibly an eerie, down-market echo of the Potempkin.....which also saw her end in the Crimea. The British ended up blowing her engines in Sevastapol in 1919 to keep the Bolsheviks from using her against the Whites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Potemkin
"Her engines were destroyed in 1919 by the British when they withdrew from Sevastopol to prevent the advancing Bolsheviks from using them against the White Russians. She was abandoned when the Whites evacuated the Crimea in 1920 and was finally scrapped by the Soviets in 1923.""
The question that begs to be answered is why would the supposedly soveriegn nation Ukrainian flagship that is under the umbrella of a NATO agreement of protection be sailing around with a Russain flag in it's locker?
"The question that begs to be answered is why would the supposedly soveriegn nation Ukrainian flagship that is under the umbrella of a NATO agreement of protection be sailing around with a Russain flag in it's locker?"
There are 180 officers and enlisted men aboard.
I'd expect to find at least 1 Russian flag, a pair of plus sized panties, and some prime hashish in the lockers.
No, actually only Jon Stweart and dumbshit American's will be laughing their asses off, Chinese are serious adults from what I can tell.
They know when to enjoy the misfortune of a Feng Gwai Lo. Remember, they're still pissed over the British opium thing and know who's still in charge. They will never take any Western shit again. Never.
Where did you get this report? Source?
When Jack Burton says the check is in the mail, the check is in the mail! Dammit!
"Pork Chop Express" Have you paid your dues Jack??
That is what I would like to see. If true, it's some scary shit with Turkey being NATO and all, but I don't like jumping at rumors.
Turkey will do nothing in these circumstances. Things are happening too quickly and instructions from the idiots in DC are not forthcoming.
Is there link to that?
I was sent email told that, but found nothing to confirm.
Everyone calm down! The EU is meeting on monday to discuss this. It's the weekend dammit!
Apparently this is that ship.
Wow! well-spotted.
Wonder how they'll spin that in the western media.
Simple.
It will be buried down the rabbit hole of the NSA run internet.
(Translated)
"Frigate 'Hetman Sahaidachny' under the command of Rear Admiral Andrei Tarasov refused to obey the orders of Kiev. Raised over the ship St. Andrew's flag under which the frigate returns from the Gulf of Aden to the Black Sea."
"As expected, the ship is expected to arrive in Sevastopol in early March."
"Learning about the 'mutiny on the ship,' Prime Minister Yatsenyuk [jew] addressed to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan [Turkey] with the requirement not to miss rebellious frigate 'Hetman Sahaidachny' through the Bosporus and the Black Sea Daodanelly."
Maybe this is why Turkey and Spain are building that aircraft carrier. Hope they get it done by Monday.
"flagship of the Ukrainian Navy on deployment in the Mediterranean Sea has hauled down the Ukraian Flag and Naval Ensigns and hoisted those of Russia and the Russian Navy."
Thanks Jack for the good news.
I do not understand why no one talks about that Putin protects the legitimate interests of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people? I think that the whole world has gone mad! How the rebels, that illegally seized power in Kiev, can called as "Ukraine"? And how they can call as the "rebels", east of Ukraine, that remained loyal to the Constitution and the legitimate president of the country?
This is a full Insanity pseudodemocracy of US!
"Reports from Kiev are that the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy on deployment in the Mediterranean Sea has hauled down the Ukraian Flag and Naval Ensigns and hoisted those of Russia and the Russian Navy."
http://x2t.com/286891
I was wondering about how Ukrainian military officers were feeling about their new government. I am no expert, but the least violent option now seems to be the Ukrainian military staging a military coup, remove the interim government and hold a national election soon. That way people will get their say as to they want to side with EU or Russia. Maybe that would enable the country remain in once piece.
Ukraine and Peter Schiff: Recovery Fantasy, Dollar Crash Below 80.00 And Gold "Wall of Worry".
Peter Schiff is discussing the very weak economic data released this week, Gold market's "Wall of Worry" in mass media and Gold stocks potential. We will add to the discussion the main development for us this week. It is the situation in Ukraine, which came almost out of nowhere for a lot of investors and now threatens the stability in Europe at least and has caused the major decline in US Dollar below the very important level of 80.00.Obama can have his own war finally after the few unsuccessful attempts with YouTube evidence in Syria. We do hope that it will be only Financial War and we can see the first rounds of it this week. Initially US Dollar went up on the escalation of the situation in Ukraine - as any potential military action in the world is supposed to be positive for the U.S. Military Complex, but on Friday with major headlines from Moscow about Ukraine Dollar has dived decisively below 80.00 to the 79.78 close.After these U.S. actions in Ukraine considered as an insult by the Kremlinthe least you can expect is selling of the US Treasuries by Russia and, maybe, already accelerating of selling by China as well . They have been already smelling the rat about the USTs Game Of Musical Chairs for a long time. It is just too personal. None of these two countries - or it will be better say leaders - would like to be liberated next in any circumstances.
The big difference with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria is that all those countries can not be compared to Russia and China even close. These two countries have means to make life very messy for everybody involved and U.S. has managed to be involved with both. It is getting very hot very fast in Ukraine with Russia and you can imaging who is orchestrating China - Japan confrontation as well. It is not the way to make friends and find the new buyers for U.S. Debt or even retain the old ones. Are those people who write the teleprompter for Obama just went totally crazy? We do not think so. Unfortunately the friends are lost long time along the way with ongoing US Treasury sales by Russia and China and diversification out of US Dollar. Now we are witnessing the very dangerous play with the last asset left in U.S. from Super Power stage - its Military Complex. There is nothing to match it in the open confrontation, but if we will be all lucky to exclude mutual nuclear distraction, we can expect a lot of asymmetrical steps from the Rising Powers. Ongoing Financial War can now be considered to be escalating to the dramatically new levels. Gold was managed to the downside to hide the ongoing disaster at least for the weekend. The opening of Gold market in Asia on Sunday evening will be very interesting with the ongoing escalation in Ukraine and reported authorisation by the Russian Upper House of Parliament the use of military force in Crimea to insure "stability in the region". http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/ukraine-and-peter-schiff-recovery.ht...
Slavs spring?
Escalating fast. Still waiting for acual shots/deaths.
Until then, not an actual war.
The deaths stopped when the Prez left and Putin came in. For now. You must have missed the shooting during the protests.
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Escalating fast. Still waiting for acual shots/deaths.
Until then, not an actual war."
Who can be the enemy of the Russian army in the east of Ukraine , if 80% of the population of this part of Ukraine - is ethnic Russian and those Ukrainians, who believe themselves to be Russian ?
It's not the Russian army gathers rallies with Russian flags. This local population. Local population meets Russian army as their saviors from Western extremists and NATO. They do not want to see NATO in their land. They do not want democracy. They do not want " Western values ??." They are Russian , and they want to be together with Russia. If some idiots in Washington or Brussels think, that they can prevent the two Russian brothers unite together, they make a mistake and it is last mistake of their life. Because in this case, the Russian will go to the end. And in the end , the whole world will burn in the nuclear fire.
Have to think that more than a few Ukrainian army units will 'go Russian'...
Ukrainian army is as ethnically split as the nation, obviously. So what the military does will likley depend on how different Russian and Ukrainian troops react. The two languages are similar enough that both understand each other pretty well. Reports are that Russia has gotten 145,000 visa application from Ukraine in the last two weeks. Many soldiers are among them. Russian ethincs of course.
According to Dmitry Orlov the Russians are handing out passports left and right.
From his blog today:
Here's the link. Interesting take, as always.
Reichstag Fire in Kiev
Big numbers will go over..there is safety in that......they must know the "acting" government is very likely to start a purge.
Berkut experienced public shaming, , maimings and death.
Let's see! Go with the EU where faggot Italy doesn't even elect leaders anymore, just installs Banking cocksmokers and the rest of the EUSSR with its shitload of debt and IMF heroin needles or Russia with all of the energy and resources in the world and the closest thing to true capitalism on the continent. Hmmm....let me fucking think about those choices for a moment.
Ok, you god damned unpatriotic miscreants.
Is it time to start playing the Oceania Anthem again.
And, let me remind you that we've always been at war with Eurasia and Eastasia, albeit, not at the same time.
For those of you that feel the need, maybe spending 2 minutes in the Goldstein Amphitheatre of Hate will help purge your unpatriotic INGSOC attitudes.
Russia is a huge nation, there is room for all who want to come over. This will only make the Russian economy better.
If I am allowed, I would very quickly brought the constitutional order on the territory of Ukraine, including Kiev and all the Western Region. It's very simple. Only need to officially announce that "Ukraine" - is the eastern region headed by legitimate president. At the same time, Kiev and all the western region, it is not "Ukraine". This is only the rebellious region of Ukraine, headed by a gang of criminals and impostors.
On the eastern Ukraine need to recreate all public authorities, including the central bank with the new national currency of Ukraine. Checkmate.
Meanwhile Western Democracy has appointed Italy's third consecutive unelected Prime Minister....
Love the profile pic.
Also, herro everyone! I'M BACK!!!
Just in time for things to heat up in the Ukraine, too...
"WOAR, what is it good for?"
Enriching bankers and bringing unemployment down. Now get out there and break some fucking windows!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK is it frustrating living under the full fucking retard policies of DC.
(Oh, wrong WOAR. My Bad.)
It's an excuse to drink is what it's good for! HUA!
absolutely nothing !
Reports from China indicate that in the United Nations, China will stand in support of Russia's positions. This is not confirmed, but is reported by international sources. If true, this would indicate that the US overflights of proclaimed Chinese airspace and the US vowed deployment of it's armed forces east to confront China, have done their work. China, being a major target of Washington, would be foolish not to back Russia is this confrontation. They likley will do little, but by not voting against Russia, this will send the needed messages. Reports are that several Ukraianin Right Leaders have asked for Chechen terrorists to attack Russia targets on behalf of Ukrainian freedom. This is unlikey to help things much.
The Right Front troops sent to capture key buildings in Crimea were defeated and thrown out. No reports on what Crimea self defense forces have done with Washington's people.
Fast moving events. Obama and his neocon masters have some big choices to make soon. Perhaps a war on Syria would start as a counter to Russian moves in Crimea.
Implications in Senakaku Islands?
How about the implications for the 33,000 US military personnel currently stuck in Afghanistan? That's a long walk home through really unfriendly country with no gas...
Thanks for keeping us informed.
Wouldn't get this quality of info in the mass media.
Cue some false flag attrocities in 3...2...1...
Putin would be wise to start securing all borders in the Ukraine to prevent House of Saud goons from entering the region.
Anybody know what else is going on in the world that we should know about?
Whenever my attention is focused by the mainstream media over <here> I always want to look over >there<.