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Explosions Heard In Semferopol; Belbek (Sevastopol) Air Force Base Seized By Russian Forces, BBC & Pravda Report
Several unconfirmed reports of two explosions being heard in Crimea's capital, Semferopol were on the wires and now The BBC has confirmed,
A loud bang was heard about 23:10 local time (21:10 GMT), following by a smaller blast, BBC reporters in Simferopol say.
Reports vary from "didn't hear any explosions" in Semferopol to Belbek Air Force base (In Sevastopol) is under Russian attack. Ukrainian Pravda confirms:
"Russian military, using 'stun' grenades, seized nearly all the buildings of the Ukrainian military in Belbek."
The BBC reports explosions:
Pravda confirms Belbek was the target...
The Russians seized weapons in the Ukrainian part of Belbek, used grenades svitloshumovi
Monday, March 3, 2014, 00:26Russian military use svitloshumovi grenades seized nearly all the buildings of the Ukrainian military in 4515 Belbek.
This "Ukrainian Truth" told the soldiers mouths protection of the 4515 Roman Coast.
"The Russians came here three days ago. Initially they took the house where room service delegation, which flew Yanukovych and others. Following day took the room where our planes were then surrounded by a guard," - he said.
"Today, the Russians stormed the guard, throwing grenades svitloshumovi. Initially told to hand over weapons. Karaul refused. Began the evening svitloshumovymy throw grenades. We are not answered because there is no order from above," - he added.
"They took away the weapon. We did not have the order set to. We did not respond to provocation. Passed the guard, handed warehouses", - said the Coast.
"As of right now, they occupied almost the entire part. Was only an administrative building and a flag. Behold, we have now protects. Took the defense," - he said.
Thus Coastal pointed out that the commander of the part and the whole are ready to fight.
But reports seem confused at best...
#Ukraine's Belbek Air Force Base under #Russian attack; attackers aim for arms cache,use stun grenades #RussiaInvadesUkraine #CrimeaInvasion
— Ukrainian Updates (@Ukroblogger) March 2, 2014
Not heard the two reported explosions in Simferopol. @ukrpravda_news and @rykov both saying it was stun grenades. Quiet in the center
— max seddon (@maxseddon) March 2, 2014
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Can a fart start a WW?
At my house it can....
it was just the sound of american foreign policy running into a brick wall
I have no instructions to negotiate with you.
Flash bang grendades?
Is this the army or just local LEOs getting their jollies?
Wait, wrong country.
pods
Exactly, they are acting tough but when Russia forces their hand the Ukranian via the Americans sober up and think about what they may start and back down. Russia knows one thing that the US either forgot or a fool is leading them and don't know, and that is they aren't going to go to war over WEST Ukraine.
Buck, I agree, nobody should go to war over West Ukraine. West Ukraine made this revolution with CIA backing. This did reflect in some way the will of the West Ukrainian people. Thus, I think West Ukraine has itself detached itself from Ukraine proper and is an independent entity now, backed by NATO. So I support them entering EU and NATO. Nobody should war over West Ukraine. The other parts, that had no part in the revolution is where the trouble lies.
It is this simple, the West Ukraine and CIA made a revolution and won Kiev. Using this place and claiming to be a government, they are trying to force all of Ukraine to obey the orders of the unelected pro western Revolutionary government. It is exactally this point that is bringing on war. The East/South/Cimea NEVER accepted this localized Kiev CIA backed revolution. The USA hoped that by taking Kiev, they had taken command of all Ukraine, Listen to USA cry over territorial integrity of Ukraine now that they hold Kiev.
This revolution is not in control of Pro Russian Ukrainian areas, this is where the conflict is. Putin is surely smart enough to see what the EU and USA have tried to do. Take one city, Kiev, and proclaim complete power and control over Ukraine to allow a NATO occupation of unwilling East/South/Crimea. THIS is JUST what Putin and Russia WILL not allow to happen. That is why Russian troops are on the move, this little gambit is transparent to all but CNN. Russia will go to war before they let a little CIA power grab in Kiev give NATO control over all of Ukraine.
If Putin was so stupid as to obey Kerry and Obama, he would truely be insane. As usual, most American people believe they, as Americans, have the right and power to decide this issue as they see fit.
Great analysis Jack, perhaps the out of touch Euros thought that if they played Yanukovich in bad light and had Kiev the capital in their hands as you said, they could pull it off. They didn't realize that there is no love to be had for the stooges they are fronting for the New Ukraine either. Everyone around the world and Ukraine has seen the video clip of Yulia Tymoshenko faking the illness in the jail cell, and her shady dealings to enrich her family like other politicians. How about Nuland's top down democracy for the people where she picks who will be the government (not unlike what is done here for us in the USA). The USA and Euros are stumbling badly and that always happens when deep down inside you realize you are not the GOOD GUY anymore. Ultimately everyone goes with family because blood is thicker than water. The West Ukrainians may go back to their catholic polish roots. But the Eastern Orthodox will be less willing to take a ride with the Brussels train when they realize that not only is blood thicker than water but so is OIL, and the Euros have none, and all the gas Kerry is putting out wouldnt light a match, and the world is wisening up to worthless paper with big numbers printed on it coming in Euro and dollar denominations. And Russia has a marketplace for their goods, whereas Brussels would just close down their factories. The actions of the West show just how desperate they are to accomplish this dream of theirs, regime change, to the detriment of all the Values written in their Constitutions. The world is watching the Western world and shaking their heads. Putin is one smart guy, he is giving our 'chosen for us' leaders every possible chance to make themselves the fools that they really are.
Good stuff. Thanks!
Agreed it can, we covered all this in the hot pocket thread.
Don't fart and smoke.
Why is it that women have such a bad reaction to a good healthy fart ???
This is a conflict about gas, or partly so.
whatever when girls are hanging out they absolutely see who can blow ass the loudest just a group of guys.
A fairy flapping its wings in Washington, DC can.
So Russia just wants Crimea so far. They seem to be welcoming the Russians. Anybody know if Russia has plans on the rest of Ukraine?
They certainly have plan for the rest of Ukraine. The question is will they apply it or not.
They want it all, well except for Chernobyl.
Let them get a good taste of EU/IMF and then come to the resque greeted as liberators?
i doubt very much Russia will move any further
As i have said before Crimea is a pillar of russian identity as a naval empire (the other pillar is St.Petersburg on the Baltics)
Obama has no idea that russians will actually commit to nuclear war over crimea
Russia gave up on being a naval empire long ago. Actually that name goes to the US (Water Empire) while they fancy themselves as Land Empire.
[that according to the eurasian doctrine]
once this thing goes "hot" (lots of body bags) you'll see this place go REAL quiet.
"i doubt very much Russia will move any further"
Sure, Russia is so pleased with being totally surrounded by the psychos in Washington.
Russia should provoke Kiev until it attacks and then go all the way to the Polish border.
Not yet.
Why bother,its bankrupt, and will disolve into civil war.
Vlad can just wait ,and then be invited in as its savior.
Maybe get a Nobel pizza prize like Obozo.
Good call Winston. I think you have hit on the real forgotten issue. Ukraine is bankrupt and in economic collapse. They need 35 billion US dollars just to remain a state. Not to have an economic recovery, they need it just to remain a viable nation that can pay it's army and it's civilian work forces. Ukraine, expecially the West is in total economic collapse. That is the real issue. You are right, Russia need do nothing, apart from Crimea, and to preotect Ethinc Russians in Ukraine. The west can't solve Ukrainian economc problems. Look at the EU, they are sinking into a debt default themselves. Unemployemnt is rampant, yet they are expected to save Ukraine!
Well, they do have (used to anyway) a tapered roller bearing plant in Lutsk (NW Ukraine near Poland) that was bought by SKF.
These Russian's seem to be slightly better armed and trained than Al Qeada and the Taliban.
"These Russian's seem to be slightly better armed and trained than Al Qeada and the Taliban. "
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But this is not the most important thing . The main thing is that the Russian here on both sides. Among the military of Ukraine , 60 % ethnic Russian . Among the Russian military , 30% of ethnic Ukrainians . None of them wants to shoot their compatriots.
Therefore , during the storming of buildings have not dead casualties among the attackers and defenders. Therefore Russian military used to capture the building only light - noise grenades, but not the real grenades . Nobody used the weapon to kill.
Because Russians and Ukrainians - is the one nation that was divided artificially.
But western Ukrainians - is another nation . It is the Poles, whom Stalin via force attached to the USSR , together with their Polish lands . L'viv - is a former Polish city . 5 years I'm talking about what need to return back to the Poles, of their land and their people. But the authorities of Ukraine have always been strongly against such a move . I very much hope that Putin will return back the land to the Poles.
- The population of the western regions of Ukraine - is the Poles . They are was attached to the Ukraine by force. But they want to be together with Poland.
- The population of the eastern regions of Ukraine - is Russians. They are was attached to the Ukraine by force. But they want to be together with Russia .
Need to do as he wants the population of these regions. We also need to be held in Kiev free referendum so that people can choose the way for Kiev - to Poland or to Russia . ( This is my personal opinion).
No one in the CIA knew about the Red Line Eraser?
Interesting question, since Russia's pipelines to Europe run thru the Ukraine, especially the Western half.
From what I can gather, there are three active groups within the Ukraine: 1) the "moderates" who were being paid-off/backstopped by the EU/Israel/DC US. 2)The "nationalists" in the Western half. And 3) the pro-Russian activists in the East and Crimea.
Russia will take the Crimea and then probably have to make a deal with the "nationalists" in the West for power over the rest to assure their pipelines are good to go.
Just my 1913 two cents.
"Anybody know if Russia has plans on the rest of Ukraine?"
Hold on,,,, Vlad? what are your plans?,,,,, Uh Vlad say yup.
Yeah, as a matter of fact Vlad posted on his FB that they are going all the way to Berlin, again.
Seriously, you asked a pretty dumb question.
"Yeah, as a matter of fact Vlad posted on his FB that they are going all the way to Berlin, again.
Seriously, you asked a pretty dumb question."
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Putin now has a young and beautiful wife - Kabaeva.
I do not think Vlad would like to see Merkel. He's not going to Berlin.
http://img.ntv.ru/home/news/20140303/merkel.jpg
http://x2t.com/287156
http://x2t.com/287157
http://x2t.com/287158
Russia doesn't want any part of Ukraine, Russia doesn't want any Ukraine at all, so is majority of Ukranian citizens... Russians regestering 480000 of refugies so far... All they ask is referendum, so people can voice their opinion.
Calm down everyone...
when shit gets real it will be Vlad himself announcing it.
I do not understand all the worry about Crimea. It was and will always be part of Russia. NO ONE in the West will fight Russia over Crimea or Ukraine.
Of course, that is not historically true whatsoever. No doubt European history wasn't on your class list.
Close enough for Obozos' government work.
thamnosma, well, please fill in my education gap showing Crimea was NOT Russian. With a link, please!
Don't feed the troll.
this is a good question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks
Historically true? It all depends on perspective, which cherry do you want to pick - Crimea has belonged to the Crimean Khanate, Byzanthium, a few Italian city-states, Kievan Russia etc. ad nauseum.
Instead, why don't you focus on current facts - what's the dominant population of Crimea today and what do they themselves declare to be?
You're right. History has no meaning, no value whatsoever.
And those Russians in the Crimea were moved in to displace other populations, including the pacification of southern Ukraine by the Bolsheviks. You think that has no influence on today? You're an idiot.
Bitch puh-lease, Crimea has been populated with Russians in the last 150 years. It's true Crimean Tatars were collectively displaced to Central Asia as a punishment for all the atrocities they committed against Christians (last time during WW2 when they fought on the Nazi's side), but Tatars have been allowed to return to Crimea after the fall of Soviet Russia.
You look like you need to take evening classes at Zbig's school...
Edit: Hello, Mr. 3 weeks, 4 days troll. Welcome to fight club!
that census was in 2001..."a long time ago."
"And those Russians in the Crimea were moved in to displace other populations, including the pacification of southern Ukraine by the Bolsheviks. You think that has no influence on today? You're an idiot."
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South Ukraine - is a former Russian land, where in the times of Stalin, lived for more than 70% Russians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDyt6PlCJs
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/3948302/post315203230/
That there was a famine from which people died. But among those who died from hunger, 70% - it was the Russian people, but not Ukrainians.
Because Stalin never struggled with the Ukrainians. Stalin fought with the class of prosperous peasants. He destroyed this class of the population, regardless of nationality or place of residence. Therefore, the famine was not only in Ukraine (in the former Russian territories with of the Russian population), but in the Russian Volga too.
Myth that Stalin destroyed Ukrainians was needs the West for to share two close relatives population and then conquer them.
Before you call someone an idiot, check: whether you are an idiot who does not know the real history and lives in captivity of the illusions of propaganda from faux news.
Fraud, Famine and Fascism - The Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/special/library/tottlefraud.pdf
Nu-uh.
i hope you are right
so +1 for hope
That is not the issue. What Vlad is doing is cutting off/isolating greater Ukraine, control the peninsula and Black Sea you control Ukraine's import/exports, sea access. Very much a blunt Stalinist move, and Vlad is playing it to a T. Ukraine then can cut it's wheat exports to Russia, Russia gets slammed with sanctions then turns off the oil tap to the West/Europe. You'll see grain/corn and oil prices start to spike. If Vlad then decides to invade greater Ukraine, he will need more than 6000 men.
Ivan don't surf, and does play chess. But Vlad plays Risk.
chump666
Sir! If your comment was directed my way, OK, I certainly do see various geo-political realities (as you cite). And those really could cause a lot of pain for a lot of people (Europe, etc.). I also agree that Putin is being Stalinesque here, typically Russian (yes, I know he was from Georgia).
Assuming the US stays out of this, we may get the Russians to burn a lot of resources to quell a problem they need never have had to let get so out of hand...
"Advantage USA"
(You always have interesting things to write about, + 1)
Thanks.
You know, Obama will keep his distance but lean heavily on the UK, EU, NATO and UN etc. Vlad k'oed Obama with Syria, but Obama can play this with sanctions. Now the problem is Putin, he is boxed in, Russia gets sanctions it effects them significantly, trade embargo's and sanctions are enforced and Vlad cuts the oil - will hurt Russia a lot more, they are paranoid of Rouble devaluation. I urge you to look up the 1998 Rouble crisis. It still resonates today, so can you imagine the Russian billionaires, mostly in the UK, starting to see their portfolios decline rabidly.
Yep could be advantage US, Putin has f*cked it.
Chevy Volt parked next to a Tesla.
Onslow Pulls Up, car backfires
Both of which take 10 hours to properly fill their tanks to obtain a range 1/5th to 1/10th a proper vehicle's.
Has Kerry left for Ukraine yet? LOL!!!
He'll get another medal for surviving a stun grenade. 10 blocks away.
He's flown into Kabul to conduct face to face negotiations...place where we have had entire diplomatic corps blown up.
Have you?
I have no respect for him, even if he was qualified for the job, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this line of thinking.
For those who like his performance (keyword) congratulations.
Prince Bandar Bin Sultan "Bush" spirit lives on!
Sure hope the Saudi's with the U.S./NATO alliance's tacit approval weren't stupid enough to try it a second time "post Olympics" -for their sake!
No further announcements from the White House are planned until after the Oscars.
lol, when the hell does that take place?
Tonight, but the parties last a long time.
Obama and Reggie are already in their pajamas. A lot of gay and transgender movies this year. They probably already wet themselves
ukrain forces on the move to Crimea
https://twitter.com/MiddleEast_BRK/status/440256246445121537/photo/1
This is gonna suck
All 2 of them?
Brave lads non the less eh?
Aye after overthrowing a government with no arms, then they may find out the hard way, about listening to CIA plants
So were the Light Brigade.Still buried there.
I can hear the trumpets...even now.
I was "light infantry" and we moved fast.
I first thought is "these are kids standing around waiting orders."
Indeed that is my only thought.
You and I might know what's coming next here...but those kids don't.
If what President Putin has said is true ("Europe started this") then "Europe" better get movin'.
Juste the one, the other defected.
not hoping for blood, but...
Video....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD6526kEGHo&feature=youtu.be
I heard Paco De Lucia but nothing else.
Paco De Lucia Live At 31st Leverkusener Jazztage 2010 Great Harmonica solo in it.Casualty Report just in: The first confirmed victim's name is...
D Truth.
Want a taste of the truth? Listen to http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2014/3/1_Dr...
Sorry, he died a long, long time ago. They've been propping him like Bernie of "Weekend at Bernies" ever since.
Speaking of "Weekend at Bernies" and propping up bodies, did anyone see the recent gun and badge thug brutality out of Moore, OK? The gun and badge thugs assumed that the male was the perp, when it was actually his wife. and 5 of them tackled and killed him THEN arrested him. At one point they tell his corpse to, "Calm down, sir." They then prop up his dead body to cover up to the videoing wife that they have killed him.
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/02/25/confiscated-video-showing-o...
"Dear gun and badge thugs, better check your oath and look-up Article 3, Section 3 and Nuremberg Principle IV.
"Fire" enjoy the burn....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8
There was this silly event about 150 years ago. It was called the Crimean War. It pitted France, Britain and the Ottoman Empire against Russia. The Russian navy in the Black Sea was destroyed. Had a big influence on the region's subsequent development and politics.
Over one million men died in that "silly event." For those of you counting, that's nearly twice as many as died in the American Civil War. Also, the war aim of the British was to lock the Russian Empire in (no warm water port with access to the Med). Sound familiar?
"throwing "sound-and-light" grenades they took over a military base ?"
Geez give me a break, this is a spectacle not a war
True, but a little Kabuki Theater is what we need right now. Russia in the Crimea, but no other part of Ukraine looks like a least awful scenario. Let the posing and posturing begin;)
"A loud bang was heard about 23:10 local time"
That was just Rear Admiral Berezovsky back-firing
I remember playing Soviet Strike on PS1.
First level was in Crimea. Seeing that name lately has brought the game to mind.
The end of the Soviet Union leaves a power vacuum in Eastern Europe that former KGB Chairman Uri Vatsiznov, AKA the Shadowman, is willing to exploit for his own ends. In the first mission, which takes place in the Crimea, the player must rescue a captured spy named Nick Arnold to retrieve intelligence on the game's antagonist. The second level is set in the Sea of Azov: the player must battle the elements of the Black Sea Fleet which is preparing to invade Europe. The mission also involves the rescue of guerrilla fighter Amad.
It was a good game.
The Russians fought for Sevastopol in 1941-1942 against:
Nazi Germany
Italy
Romania
Bulgaria
Croatia
Think the Russians are not going to keep it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Sevastopol_%281941%E2%80%9342%29
They been fighting for it for centuries. Sometimes they've won, sometimes they've lost.
Do you believe they are willing to lose it now?
Then, of course, there was the conference at Yalta, in the Crimea, after WWII. This is where Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin divided up Europe, turning Poland, the Baltic States, Hungary, Romania, etc. etc. over to the USSR for the next 40 years. Crimea has a fascinating history. It's also been a flashpoint.
PPT will have a busy night but nothing they can't handle with a few billion worth of well timed buy orders
I have no doubt these developments are bullish for stocks. Loading up on facebook tomorrow.
I have no doubt about the power of well timed intervention.
The desperate Media is drawing straws on who will bullhorn the next falsification story cover.
Two bangs, you say? Yes, "Two bangs, a smile and a religion"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDtRJF77Om4
I'll raise you- "No bangs, a bad-ass frown and a religion"
http://allcrimea.net/photo3/02031410.jpg
Is this squirmish shovel-ready? Lurch may call a beer summit and it's business as usual for the military industrial crowd.......S&P to the moon baby..........Janet is go for throttle up!!!
Is this a real fight or just an Argument?
The Argument clinic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c
Where are all the great Western Ukraine armies the Neo Nazis are pushing around their war map? I keep hearing the Overthrowers of the Ukraine democracy barking out mad commands like Hitler in his bunker in the last few days sending commands to imaginary army groups LOL
This is a strange replay of WW2 when the Russians were fighting the Germans and Kiev was changing hands literally overnight. I hope the Russians this time don't stop at Berlin but GO ALL THE WAY TO BRUSSELS and finish off the matter once and for all.
Boy, those Russians sure know how to make their "training exercises" seem incredibly realistic. Color me impressed.
wake me when those 'bangs' start being heard in America. i've already calculated the fallout radius per megaton from my nearest metro area. escape route, packing list, the whole 9. best investment? portable satcom terminal. everyone should have one of those in case of emergency.
Add a GMC-320+ geiger counter to your list as well.
Wait, what? A satcom terminal? How would the nuked satellite ground control facilities continue to keep it alive?
http://www.viasat.com/broadband-networks/surfbeam-2
http://rt.com/news/kerry-russia-us-pretext-494/
lol the fake idiot has dementia
When I was 8 years old I filled my bike tire at a gasoline station. It went boom. The tire, not the gas station.
Vlad's gonna take the east too. Poland's smart to mobilize now. Vlad isn't going to stand up to the western bankers that's up to Patriots. Vlad hasn't even started to roll. If I lived in any part of Eastern Europe I'd be shitting my pants and I'd be getting my bug out bag ready
Its time for us in the West to get active against our dark elite Western controllers and our fuk tard bought leaders. Step one oppose the internet disinfo campaign
Poland is not mobilizing. That report has been debunked.
France will not support any military action, nor will Germany. Russia is a key trading partner for them.
Germany gets the oil that takes food to shelves from Russia. How could they approve any action against them?
But this just in, Warsaw is still a Ghetto
The name of that nespaper is "evrejskaya Pravda" or translates to Jewish truth newspaper not just Pravda or truth magazine.
No, it doesn't. It might be run by jews, but it doesn't say that at the top.
The Y.K.P.A.I.H....c.b.k.a. translates
to U.K.R.A.I.N....s.".k.a.
Please don't fool those who don't read cyrilic. It just says Ukrainska Pravda.
Y makes an (u) or (oo) sound.
P makes an (r) sound
H makes an (n) sound
C is an obvious (s)
The Pi symbol is a (p) sound the B is a (v) sound.
Everything else is pretty much a cognate.
bbc report of big bangs 30 mins before big bangs explode.
bbc reporter near only bangs exploding in all of the country.
That boom is the sound of the Dow Jones crashing.
No animals were hurt in this war, only humans!.....
Ukraine Dogs are being rounded up as we speak and shipped to Sochi to be shot
Good for you Vlad.
After you are done in the Ukraine can you please come over here and help us with this fake clown in office pretending to do what is in the best interest of the American people?
I want shock and Awe! Not Awe Shucks! This is just like the union army taking back Virgina..It just feels right!
Interesting to note that the UA forces, whose Belbek base and weapons were seized by RF forces, didn't fire back because "they hadn't received the order from above to do so". Although the troops claim to be "ready and willing to fight".
Yet only days ago the UA defense minister declared that forces were to fire back if attacked by RF. Doesn't this grab of a strategic installation by RF forces qualify as an 'attack'? If UA forces in ARC are not fighting back, why?
Meanwhile RF forces seem to be in the habit of forwarning UA forces in ARC about what they are going to seize next, then conducting it mostly with polite conversation.
All the top authority figures in ARC have declared the regime in Kiev illegitimate and have de facto declared Crimea to be a sovereign state, although de jure they still recognise Yanik (remember him?). Those who didn't support the move got purged. All of this was organised seemingly in days, with the full support of the people, and without a shot being fired or a bond payment being missed.
Meanwhile over in Luhansk today the regional administration has likewise declared the regime in Kiev to be "illegitimate".
Still wondering what Yats' master plan is really.
Ukraine soldiers are probably making individual or small group decisions. not necessarilly surrendering but not fighting iether. Waiting for further moves is my guess. They don't have a fight with Russians.