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Ukraine Orders Full Military Mobilization, Acting PM Says Russian Actions "Declaration Of War"
With less than 6 hours left until FX trading opens, no resolution to the Ukraine crisis is in sight. Instead the situation has devolved even more and overnight Ukraine has ordered a full military mobilization in response to Russia's build-up of its forces in Crimea. Prime Minster Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the country was "on the brink of disaster." Several other measures were announced on Sunday by national security officials:
- The armed forces would be put on "full combat readiness".
- Reserves to be mobilised and trained
- Ukraine's foreign minister will seek the help of US and UK leaders in guaranteeing its security
- Emergency headquarters to be set up
- Increased security at key sites, including nuclear plants.
- Airspace closed to all non-civilian aircraft.
Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Sunday that his country was "on the brink of disaster" and personally blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for bringing the two nations to the verge of war. Speaking to reporters at the Ukrainian parliament, Mr. Yatsenyuk called on the international community to rein in Mr. Putin and pressure him to remove troops from the Crimean peninsula, where a majority of residents are ethnic Russians but have Ukrainian passports.
"If President Putin wants to be the president who starts the war between two friendly and neighboring countries, he has [almost] reached this target," Mr. Yatsenyuk said. "We are on the brink of disaster. There was no reason for the Russian Federation to invade Ukraine."
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Western diplomats doubt that the Ukrainian armed forces would be able to match up to the Russian forces already in control of the critical infrastructure and border points in the Crimea.
Ukrainian leaders say that Russia has already sent an additional 6,000 troops to Crimea since tensions arose in the peninsula last week. The two countries have a military agreement that allows Moscow to base forces in the region, but Ukrainian officials accuse Moscow of violating that treaty by not informing Kiev of additional troops, and by moving forces without prior notice. Moscow says that it is in compliance of the accord.
Earlier Sunday, Ukraine's interior minister said Russian officials had approached Ukrainian officers remaining in Crimea and offered them immediate Russian citizenship.
"Across the entire territory of Crimea, Russian emissaries and military officers have invited the remaining Ukrainian interior ministry troops to take Russian citizenship and immediately receive Russian passports," Arsen Avakov wrote on his Facebook page. "This appeal has been aimed at upper and middle officer corps troops."
Mr. Avakov denied that Ukrainian forces had threatened the Russian-speaking population on the largely pro-Russian peninsula, and blamed Russian forces for the sharp militarization of the region.
"In Crimea, there are no forces from the interior ministry or the regular army threatening citizens of the Russian Federation or the Russian-speaking population," he said. "And also no self-defense units from Maidan have arrived from Kiev. All destabilization in the Crimea has come from and been masterminded in Russia."
The BBC adds that it has seen what appear to be Russian troops digging trenches on the Crimean border. Furthermore, a standoff between Ukrainian troops who have fortified a base in the crimean city of Privolnoye, borth place of the late USSR president Mikhail Gorbachev, and Russians who have surrounded them, may be the match that set it all off. Fox reports that hundreds of unidentified gunmen surrounded a Ukraine's infantry base in Privolnoye in its Crimea region Sunday. The convoy included at least 13 troop vehicles each containing 30 soldiers and four armored vehicles with mounted machine guns. The vehicles -- which have Russian license plates -- have surrounded the base and are blocking Ukrainian soldiers from entering or leaving it.
This is the current state of the standoff:
Extraordinary standoff. #Ukraine soldiers defiant behind gates of Perevalne base. Won't surrender. #Crimea pic.twitter.com/uLfphYAXGB
— James Mates (@jamesmatesitv) March 2, 2014
#Privolnoye: 100s of #Russian guns surround #Ukraine #Crimean base, blocking these soldiers http://t.co/9nFII4FWhF pic.twitter.com/wl9Esxiat9
— Ottawa Stare™ (@OttawaStare) March 2, 2014
Squad of Russian reinforcements arrive at Perevalne base where #Ukraine troops surrounded. No sign of them moving in. pic.twitter.com/vFypJnw8dy
— James Mates (@jamesmatesitv) March 2, 2014
In response, acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the move by Russian forces to surround military bases in Crimea was "a declaration of war."
His comments were echoed by acting president Oleksandr Turchynov, who said Ukraine had closed its airspace to non-civilian aircraft. Among the other statements by Yatsenyuk, as reported by the WSJ:
- Ukrainian PM: ‘If President Putin Wants to Be the President Who Starts the War Between Two Friendly and Neighboring Countries, He Has [Almost] Reached This Target’
- Ukrainian PM: ‘We are on the brink of disaster’
- Ukrainian PM: ‘There Was No Reason for the Russian Federation to Invade Ukraine
- Ukrainian PM: We Believe Western Partners and Entire Western Community Will Support Entire Territorial Integrity of Ukraine
- Ukrainian PM: We Believe They Will Do Everything They Can to Stop Russian Military Aggression in Ukraine
- Ukrainian Defense Ministry: All Ukraine’s Border Patrol Ships Moved Out of Crimean Ports to Odessa
- Ukraine PM: Every Half Hour There Are Provocations in Crimea and Ukraine Refuses to Respond to These Provocations
- Ukraine PM: Ukraine Hasn’t Given Permission to Russia to Deploy an Additional 6,000 troops to Crimea
All told, some 6,000 extra Russian troops and 30 additional armoured vehicles are now in Crimea, Ukrainian Defence Minister Ihor Tenyukh said on Saturday.
An interactive map of the key Ukraine battlefields is shown below:
Finallly, there was the traditional escalation in Western diplomacy with both France and Britain announcing they are putting on hold their plans for participation in the G-8 conference to be held in Sochi.
It gets better. From the WSJ:
France is not considering any military action in response to Russia’s decision to deploy troops inside Ukraine, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Sunday, as Western countries instead sought to renew diplomatic pressure on Moscow.
In an interview with French TV, Mr. Fabius said Poland had requested a meeting of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, military alliance “because it feels threatened by what’s going on in Ukraine.”
Asked if France would intervene militarily in Ukraine, Mr. Fabius responded: “Today, this is not the hypothesis. I’m telling you we want a de-escalation.”
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“France’s position is to call for the suspension of preparation ahead of the G-8 meeting in Sochi as long as the Russian partners have not returned to principles in agreement with the G-8 and G-7,” Mr. Fabius said.
Apparently unlike Mali and the Central African Republic, Russian can fight back.
And then there's this:
- Kerry Says U.S. Considering Sanctions on Russia for Ukraine Move
Well if nothing else stopped Putin, this surely will.
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It's both a calculated stand and Kabuki theater simultaneously. There's a good reason the Ukrainians don't have loaded guns, they can't win with them. Whether or not they actually will still side with Kiev if the mob does full retard is another matter, but the victor is already determined.
I think more important than what anyone is willing to die for is whether the real "authorities" in Kiev decide to live up to the joke/stereotype:
God (or the devil) goes to a [insert E. European/W. Asian ethnic group] and says "I'll give you anything you want, but I will give twice what I give to you to your neighbor", and the man replies "I want to lose one eye."
A neighbor of the US must of said' I want to lose one ball'
Just wait until Russia opens bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua. Barry will start shitting carpet tacks.
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"You can see the fear in these poor soldiers' eyes."
It looks like most of them would be outta there if not for (in the first photo) the guy on the left with his arms crossed and (in the second photo) the guy patrolling behind them with the gun. Its kinda like seeing dogs at the kill shelter. Very sad.
* In response, acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the move by Russian forces to surround military bases in Crimea was "a declaration of war."
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
It won't be official until Vlad posts it on his Fakebook page.
What, no Bleeter?
Ukrainian Prime Marionette: "If President Putin Wants To Be The President Who Starts The War Between Two Friendly And Neighboring Countries, He Is Too Late ... Because Obama."
Ukrainian Prime Marionette: "We Believe Western Partners And Entire Western Community Will Support Entire Territorial Integrity Of Ukraine With Strongly Worded Twitter Tweeters."
Ukrainian Prime Marionette: "We Believe They Will Do Everything They Can To Stop Russian Military Aggression In Ukraine Because John McCain Waved His Tyrannosaurid Arms In Anger And Said We Are All Georgians Now."
I was just gonna say "you need to separate EU from USA" here...but then again...maybe i'm wrong...
Separatists is not Ukraine. The Nazis may be plenty to declare mobilization. Better yet, if all the Nazis will gather in one place. Get them in the toilet and there to get wasted
How come we haven't heard about these so called Nazis of yours doing anything Nazi-like? Where is the aggression? Where is the genocide? Where are the pogroms? One would think the Russian side would be pumping the ether full of these stories to justify their invasion but we get nada.
Anyone can see that the Ukrainians have not done anything aggressive beyond driving their corrupt President and his criminal cronies from power. If that is what it means to be a Nazi then we might have a translation problem on your end.
Perhaps you are just an old KGB disinformation agent?
"late USSR president Mikhail Gorbachev" he ain't dead yet!!!, however it's a great shame to see all his fantastic work ruined
Has WWIII been priced into gold yet?
Does gold stop radiation like lead?
Yes. Yes it does.
But kinetic lead, directed toward the Beltway PREVENTS radiation.
No because if it happened there would be nothing to peg it to. So sell it all and convert it to survivable assets.........food, etc. Like anyone would really want to live in it anyway. Of course survival instincts would kick in and you'd be fucked.
Golden.
All I see is the Wall Street Journal reporting.
Now there's the bastion of journalistic reporting that stands for "truth"!
Now all we need is Wolf Blitzer with his army uniform on reporting from the top of CNN Atlanta "making it look like Crimea"...
Let's hope Justin Beiber doesn't do anything untoward, which would force CNN to break away from its war coverage.
They would only do that if things diverted from the plan.
So far I think everything here is going down the road the PTB want it to.
They were replaying the video of him in the drunk tank a couple nights ago. Wasn't he arrested two months ago?
CNN will have to spruce up downtown Atlanta a little bit if they plan on trying to pass it off as a Crimean live shot.
Last week Obama was celebrating the victorious democratic revolution the West incited in the Ukraine and this week we are looking at the complete failure of the same. Look out below!!
When the country being invaded is too scared to declare war and resorts to this kind of non-declaration, they've already admitted defeat.
Typically I think you are 100% correct. However Ukraine and the Crimea are not typical. If I were Ukraine I would try to hold the mainland (probably at the big river) and give up the Russian part. Of course, I (being the temp President/Prime Minister) would try to do it in an intelligent way. I would propose a referendum on Crimea. Let the Ukrainian people (including the Crimea) vote and decide if they want to let Crimea seccede and to see if, indeed, Crimea wants to leave. Offering a plan the relies on the people to peacefully decide the outcome would cut Russia's legs out from under them. Any further aggression would be just that, pure aggression by Putin. Of course I would stipulate that a free, fair, and open vote cannot be held as long as foreign forces are occupying any part of the country.
'We will vote on it. Crimeans will vote for self determination. We will do this after the illegal invasion has ended and all illegal armed forces have left the country.'
I base this all on the idea that since Putin hasn't actually started shooting yet that he really doesn't want to. He wants the Crimea and has it already.
The Western coup will fail. All the economic, industrial, financial, energy, and military power is the East and South. Kiev, without the power base, is just an empty shell capital. So the Western PM puppet agrees to let Crimea vote and secede. How long before the other Eastern provinces aligned with Russia do the same? Once the first domino falls, the only thing the Western PM puppet will control at the end is Chernobyl, and irraditated cropland.
So that's 1.2 million troops we're talking about here... way more than the 160 000 or so Russian troops on the Ukrainian border + in Crimea.... I wonder how long it will be before Russia mobilizes even more troops...
In other news, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Turkey and Belarus are on high alert getting ready to mobilize on a very short notice...
reports of large RU military buildup close to the northern Ukrainian border near Chernigov
If you look at a map, north of Chernigov is exactly where you would build up troops if you wanted to go straight to Kiev... distance from Russian border to Kiev by road? Around 250 km.
Reports that Russian troops are digging trenches at the land border between Crimea and rest of Ukraine
Rebuilding the old WW2 Tartar trench uh...
Btw, most UKR army units in Crimea are still there, incl. tank units, and so far refuse Russian ultimatums to surrender even tho surrounded.
Seems most of the ``Ukrainian troops are disarming`` reports are mostly Russian propaganda...
Remember this from 2012?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/feb/16/british-tanks-sent-germany-sto...
British tanks to be sent to Germany for storage so army can sell land in UK Up to 6,000 military vehicles could be transported overseas so prime site in Gloucestershire can be sold to raise funds Latest : Russian invaders captured the Ukrianian army base in #Fiolent", disarming all soldiers."Rebuilding the old WW2 Tartar trench uh..."
Must be a bit disheartening to have to dig out your grandfather's foxhole so soon.
Has the Kaiser mobilized yet ?
It will be real then.
If Putin was REALLY savy, he'd plant evidence that the Ukrainian government was conspiring to buy oil from the Iranians with Chinese Yuan. The US would then team up with the Russians in short order.
I doubt the US is even a consideration in Putin's mind. We're like a six year old in the stands at a baseball game, eating an ice cream and watching the mascot rather than the action on the field.
Honestly, we would dessimate the Russians (not that I'd be a proponent of that).
Only chance the US would have is if it had an actual commander in chief and it would be very, very ugly
Sorry, not biting. Your scenario has a HUGE hole: Iran and China are on board with Russia.
No need to "plant" anything. Only need to expose the Truth: That the US/TPTB/Fed want to
> Keep encroaching on Russia's strategic interests
> Shut down Russian gas supply to the EU, to open the door for ME gas/oil: The Saudis, Qataris benefit.
> Shore up sagging UST sales (Chinese dump picked up by Brussels) threaten King Dollar as GRC (Global Reserve Currency)
The fact the the Neo-Nazis who killed government people and took over the Ukrainian (without due process), are NOT being criticized in US or Israeli media, indicates that they'd rather sacrifice some of their own, than let King Dollar get dethroned -- it's the lesser of two evils, in their minds, in their calculus. It's the old "Better for one man to die..." mentality.
If Russia wanted to expose the Wall St Money Changers, the MIC and Big Oil, they simply have to beat the Currency War drum: "Time to reign in fiat currencies and endless debt."
And I wake up to what has effectively been a coup of the Ukranian military over the US/EU 'new rabble govt,' of the Ukraine
where does this place the russian military among the world's military powers?
Unintended consequences of not minding one's own business---Russia & Ukraine as a new confederation?
I don't know----does anyone?
Waiting for other impressions
Ukraine Naval Fleet Head Quarters in Crimea in Sevastopol got electricity cut off
They have one generator and beans to make gas...
Now that is just petty.
So, what's happening in Syria?
Euro and USDollar are getting expensive vs. Russian Ruble on out-of-market. Moscow exchange offices run out of €,$
Because the USD and the Euro out of all things will be worth something in case of WWIII. The stupidity of some people sometimes completely baffles me.
If investors were sane, south american currencies would appreciate... not nato countries currencies...
Time for Putin to "Re-Purpose" the G8 meeting in Sochi (June 2014) into a different FinMim meeting: "Honest & Dishonest Money"
> "Reserve Currencies for the world"
> "Stable, universal backing of currencies (Gold, Energy)"
> "Next steps toward Honest Money"
IOW, the big guns are all pointed at Wall St.: "No more fiat-dollar!" No more King-Tyrant Dollar (and its hidden and true owners) enslaving the world. Damn Clingons!
Cue a stern message from GOTUS (Golfer of...). How's he going to do a dramatic PR photo holding a golf club?
Russian Ministry of Defence says its deployed communication system in Crimea can withstand a nuclear attack.
WTF
WTF indeed ... like they needed to say that ... where are you reading this lolmao?
https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/440117153816408065/photo/1
thanks
'Americans' pushing up the 'american' way.
What options are left to Putin now?
In the context stirred by the russian invasion, any election program that promises to get the russians out of Ukraine is a winner.
Putin can no longer afford a peaceful settlement as the russian influence over Ukraine is smeared by his reckless move of invasion.
Now that he has been flexing muscles, he has to put up. Not other option.
Putin is where 'americans' want him to be: in the bully part, the aggressor. 'Americans' manipulated things in Ukraine to attack Russian interests and their blatant assault is pushed under the carpet by Putin's miscalculed move.
Even though the russians are trying to defend themselves, they now appear as the big bully in the room.
Classical stuff by 'americans' who always play the victim card while they keep bullying people around.
The mastermind Putin... Should have spend ten minutes to study the 'american' ways. It would have saved him from this comical but devasting move.
Not yet it ain't.
Putin is where 'americans' want him to be
Sure, buddy *rolls eyes*
You are viewing this issue from the American side. The global community does not see it that way. It will take a long time for the US to lose it's "bully" label.
Russia and China are being encircled. I'll argue this "invasion" is more justified than invading a country 5000 miles away because they hate us for our freedoms.
What global community?
It is very easy to find a list of countries that put their military on alert. In advance of what? Extended russian military move.
'Americans' sided with nazis to topple a legitimately elected government and they also managed to buy diversion from that thanks to the move made by Putin.
The countries in the region are longing for protection now. Protection from who? Not from the 'americans' who organized blatantly a coup to overthrow a government but from Russia.
With Putin's move, Russia is now pointed as the regional bully a country wants protection from.
In a few days, Putin managed to put to oblivion all the very recent work by 'americans'.
It managed to paint Russia as the bogeyman in this story, the big bad bully you want to protect from.
If the USA is going to protect all of these "countries" then why don't we just start collecting taxes from them and call them states? Not enough room on the flag for all those stars?
For fucks sake we cant even protect america from the Mexican hordes. We cant even take care of our own soil and citizenry without taking on massive debt.
This is past the point or ridiculousness.
AnAnonymous
you obviously have no clue dude or are just a paid NSA shill
Putin already has Crimea under control without a shot
all the russians are gonna do is wait and sit things out
S400s are already there so you can wish for a nazi NATO
no fly zone all you can but those american jets would be
falling from the sky like dead flies
most of the eastern and crimea region is pro-russian
get a grip
So where's your data that proves american planes would be falling from the sky ?
The fire control and target tracking radar of the S-400 is the 92N6E (NATO Codename: Gravestone). The radar is based on the MZKT-7930 8x8 vehicle. The 96L6 Cheese Board 3D surveillance and tracking radar is optionally carried by the same vehicle when the S-400 battery is deployed autonomously.
The 91N6E Big Bird acquisition and battle management radar of the S-400 is based on the 8x8 trailer. The radar can detect and track aircraft, rotorcraft, cruise missiles, guided missiles, drones and ballistic rockets within the distance of 600km. It can simultaneously track up to 300 targets."
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/s-400-triumph-air-defence-missil...
It's not exactly "run of the mill" defense tech. It's next generation by Russia for Russia. And they are set up and waiting to move past beta testing. These things will sweep the sky like a Dyson vacuum on a 5X7 Ikea rug.
you can't hit what you can't see, but when you light up the sky with EM in a vain attempt to do so you sure as hell can be seen... it's just another ground target... I actually feel sorry for the men that have to operate them, they're like "red shirts" on Star Trek
Possible elements of the S-400 (98ZH6E):[5][8] 15I6ME - for moving the to the distance 98ZH6E 30/60/90 km away from 30K6E. 96L6E[9] - universal complex (all functions), the detection range of 300 km. 40B6M - tower for radar 92N6E or 96L6E. Anti - stealth: Protivnik-GE, Gamma-DE. Orion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_(SAM)
yeah possible... and if yer aunt had balls she might possibly be yer uncle...
Wow and I could write a line of bullshit on how US planes are impervious to AA missles.It's all bullshit until it's for real,don't believe otherwise.Don't worry about the US economy,all the economist say it's great.Where's your data ?
I thought you guys were smarter than this.How many have been launched against US aircraft and how many planes shot down ?
Air to Air missles are the best,no need to put guns on fighters. Stupid Fucks.
meh let these guys have their moment... they think a few SAMs can prevent a NATO air cap... even though it's been proven time and time again that SAMs are merely targets... Wild Weasel ftw
a lot of the ankle biter fifth column rhetoric around here reads too much like "fearless leader will punish american pig-dogs in glorious bloody revolution"... in other words it's weak and delusional... you get used to it after a while, after all it comes from the mouths of backwater hilljack losers so it's basically harmless... kinda like Cubs fans saying "wait 'til next year" year after year...
Lolol.... Too true Turtle... Funniest comment of the week. When did ZH devolve into the booby hatch wing of the daily kos....
if the West really wanted to send a message, they'd announce forward deployment of A-10 squadrons at Polish air bases... you'd see Russian armor columns shit themselves so hard they'd need to be in Depends for a week
just come over and try it out pussy
you know what happened to that F22 over syria and the two balistic missles
launched from NATO base in Spain, after that the US changed the tone
and accepted Putin's offer to dismatle Syria chem. weapons
lol that is propaganda and fake as fuck... try again moose brain
could not care lesss what you think you know zioshill
being wrong and a fucking coward is no way to go through life... I suggest a change in approach bud
yeah right, thats why you american heroes with all the military might pissed your pants in Syria the very moment the old S300s were installed there
all you can do is to attack poor ass nations with 40 years old military equipment
thats the american way to be heroic
fucking pussies
F22 crash is arabic propaganda and nothing more...
Putin already has Crimea under control without a shot
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No kidding.
Newsflash: until very recent days, the whole Ukraine was under Russian influence. Ukraine was a deeply integrated satellite to Russia.
Russia had control over the whole Ukraine without firing a shot.
Having control over Crimea only without firint a shot is barely a victory. It is a major defeat. It shows that Russia's Putin is losing ground.
When someone gets you to invade your own turf, it is never a victory.
LMFAO.... Loving that AnAnonomous is making more sense than the Fifth columnist Putin groupies.... It's the Bizarro world trying to break through..... Too funny.... I wonder if that portends the trend for the next week..... I think this will be nitrous oxide week for Macbone... Whippets and mushrooms..... You go AnAnonomous
I think he is playing it out well for Russian interests. He said nothing and just moved in when everyone else was barely looking. If he would have taken his time, he would not be as well positioned. The fact that he currently seems to be protecting Russian military assets puts him on the defensive and not the offensive. If the West goes in then it will lead to a larger conflict. As much as the West wants to dictate, the Russians are on home turf. The West will talk hard, but do little.
"Comical"??
Crawl back under your rock, ChinTroll.
Classic roadside chinese shitizinisms.
Putin asks Russian parliment for "permission" to invade the Crimea, is given unanimous consent (cuz, its like a democracy or sumpin...lol) and somehow its America's fault.
Got it.
well...everyone agrees Russia will stomp on Ukraine like it was nothing here. In that sense the West "wants" Russia to win.
The problem so far is
a: Russia is not making their intentions vis a vis Ukraine "after the stomping" (even during...refusing to wear Uniforms?!!!) at all clear and
b: "Ukraine is preparing to mount a suicidal resistance."
If small arms start flooding in from all directions here we might end up getting a "mis-calculation."
That would be on the part of "everybody" apparently since "the local yokels" just want to be left alone and "nobody really needs to do anything here."
Kinda weird to some...but not really actually.
Like "starting your own defeat" because there was no threat to begin with and folks "workin' the field" so to speak were just "doing what comes naturally to them." (defending their land.)
This is exactly what started the American Revolution actually. The USA was a "backwater" at the time as all the gold and silver lay in Spain. "but they had their land and had their freedoms." As the British found out "those Americans had earned that land...and their freedoms too."
Again I don't know shit from shinola vis a vis "Ukraine" but if we're talking "Landers" here i think there is every reason to be concerned in actuality BEING "an invader" and "an occupier."
This whole thing does have a "World War I" feel to it.
No one is really making their intentions HEARD here...in others this isn't about anybody getting HURT...and what's happening is going to be "temporary."
Instead "chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp"....
Well one thing is clear about Russian intentions here: They will secure the flow of the pipelines, which provide a precious flow of foreign currency to the kleptocrat regime that controls Russia. So they will secure their bases and assets and allies there.
The unanimous consent is copied from the time when US Americans voted on keeping to pay the US military when the government was shutdown.
Russians can learn their lessons sometimes. They are good 'american' material.
Agreed. Now, how will Russia avoid the looming default of the Ukraine coming their way? Bluster bolsters the masses but the cost in financial stability?
Bullish..long "Depends".
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That is the propaganda being sold, sure, but it is low quality propaganda. Do you think many people are still going to line up to buy it?
A question hangs: because the Nuland woman and US State Department were caught with their pants off, is the typical one pony trick US propaganda now lacking in grip to the point where the message is one that the majority will not taste? It clearly revealed the brotherhood in crime.
But is the degenerescent US propaganda wearing too thin? For sure, it had not the expected, propagated impact.
'Americans' taking shelter in fantasy. They wont be 'american' if they dont do that.
'Americans' organized a coup against a legitimate(to the 'american' eyes) government, relying on nazis to topple the government and build up on nationalistic passion directed against Russia, depicted as an occupying force.
'American' propaganda is usually poor so people see through. It does not matter.
Because the russians acted exactly the way they were expected: like bullies ready to invade in order to maintain their sphere of influence.
Other countries have already reacted accordingly by putting their armies on alert to react to the russian aggression.
Thanks to Putin's move, 'americans' get away with siding with nazis to overthrow a legitimate government.
Russia is the big, bad bully people must fear.
As the old irish saying goes, they've the name, they've got the game.
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Somehow the game depends on the name, though, n'est-ce pas? US propaganda sells Putin as Manchester City, painting his actions as a massive invasion. So far, though, Putin is playing the Liverpool game, keeping his actions bottled up in Crimea.
American propaganda at its full functioning.
http://youtu.be/zcIVM8hFcrg
Send in the Pussy Riot (aka NATO)
and Here, I though Pussy Riot was the code name for Seal Team 6
Interior Minister Avakov reports that all Ukr. troops in Crimea are at top defcon BUT still oriented at non-violence till the last moment.
The New Republic tweets: Czech Republic recalls its ambassador to #Russia for what it calls "Prague Spring in the #Crimea."
KERRY CALLS RUSSIAN ACTION IN UKRAINE A STUNNING CHOICE TO INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY
You mean pro-Afghanistan, pro-Libya, pro-Syria wars Kerry??
#Kerry says #G8 nations and some other countries 'prepared to go to the hilt to isolate #Russia' Reuters
I bet Putin is really scared... and G8 nations does that include China too because I call BS.
#Kerry also mentions visa bans, asset freezes, and trade isolation as possible steps Reuters | #Ukraine #Russia
US Secretary of State John Kerry says Russia is behaving 'in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext' -
Now that's fucking rich.
The French have just surrendered.
Later than expected.
Yeah, usually they pre-surrender...
Well, you wouldn't want to interfere with a dog's breakfast or a frog's lunch,
which can go on for weeks;)
Putin is just rearranging the furniture, while we suffer through our Pussy in Chief and ole horse face.
This board is getting pretty sophisticated. The real action was and is in Syria. Qui Bono?
The French have just surrendered.
How much of France have they given Putin ? Have they moved on to Vichy II ?
After the French surrender, I'm waiting for "the Italian Fiat Tanks"
Mama Mia, Dio mio!
Beyond rich, stunning in its audacious bald faced hypocrisy.
These guys are out of their mind, they seem to have no idea what they're really asking for. If he really believes that they're done for. Bail-out mentality goes to war ... or is it a bail-in?
Anybody ask Merkel how Germany feels about neo-Nazis taking over the Ukrainian government?
What about the Brits, the Queen and their stand on this situation?
Or shall we all say: "But what does it matter?" and let the Money Changers do whatever they want to and planned to?
Apparently he did not even read last years headlines.
The USA promised support to so many Arab Spring Uprisings and then left them all in the dust to swing in the breeze.
Prediction:
Pretext:
Ukraine will go after Krim or their surrounded barracks, pick one.
Someone will go something stupid.
Someone will false flag.
Someone will shoot/incursion.
Result:
Ukraine sends their troops in and asks for NATO/EU/UK/Canada/European/USA/Polish assistance.
No one, or only the Poles, respond.
Consequence:
The Russian Federation unleashes unholy hell and rains fire down upon them and reunifies the country.
By force.
Refugees flood the western Ukrainian borders into neighbouring countries.
take this Ukraine and shove it bitchez!
You KNOW the equity market has rached a peak when people listen to clowns like this guy."None of this should matter for markets. No one is going to stop Putin if he wants to undertake the mammoth mess of trying to occupy the Ukraine. I am not lying awake at night worrying about a new Cold War," Michael Block, chief strategist at Rhino Trading, wrote in a note to clients.
If anything the United States and NATO lose credibility over this. While I don't wish to see military intervention, we're just throwing another ally (a real ally, not fake allies like Israel) under the bus. Is Poland next? Mongolia?
All three, Ukraine, Poland, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, and all three Baltic countries (among many others) helped the US in the invasion of Iraq for the very reason of securing the favor of defense in return. True Pals we are, true pals abandoning everyone left and right. Apparently only One ally really matters for politicians in the United Kikes of America and the Levant.
Just like Ron Paul wants.
I don't think anyone "wants" this. I'm just trying to point things out from a geopolitical perspective which intertwines geography, politics, demographics, and influence (which includes credibility and international standing).
Eastern Ukraine has a large plurality of Russian speakers (i.e. ethnic Russians). In Crimea (Krium) the percentage of Russian speakers jumps to 90%+ with near 100% around Sevastopol and Simferopol.
Do you think they support corrupt politicians and elites in Kiev (which brought the protests/revolution upon itself) or do you think they side with their blood kin? Americans have a hard time understanding this, but the vast majority of people in the world side with their own blood, for right or for wrong.
To put this into context: if Mexico were a strong military power and invaded SoCal, do you think the Hispanic population would support corrupt jewish elites in NY and fat gringo bureaucrats in Washington? Fuck no, they'd support Tenochtitlan (even if they were more corrupt) because blood and kin have everything to do with it.
They would all do well to remember that the strongest 'alliance' in the West is the USA - UK.
In order to make sure that the UK was down and stayed there (so USA could rise to top dog) the USA threatened to dump Gilts when the UK did not go along with the USA vis-a-vis the Suez in 1956.
The Exchequer of the Currency told the PM the truth, and the UK bailed.
...and THAT was the real end of The British Empire...
If that is how the USA treated and treats it's MOST TREASURED ALLY then what do you think they will do with anyone else?
Right...under the bus boys!
I agree with your assessment, but that was in 1956.
Today there is an ally that will NEVER get thrown under the bus, at not before there are a million American goyim combat deaths.
What's sad is that the sheeple will gladly throw their children into the meat grinder like they were a mid-western and southern boy evangelical bassij. Why will they tolerate this? Because "muh Izruh all iz our friend an' da only demokrazy in da mwiddle east."
Poland and Ukraine are expendable to the US globalist elites in Washington and New York, just as Georgia was and how Japan and South Korea may be.
But there is one unholy alliance that will not be broken unless cataclysmic geopolitical shifts take place. Syria and Ukraine are but minor tremors.
NATO had credibility to lose?
Gospideen Obama shouldn't allow this good crisis go to waste.
Major distraction so DC can continue to rape us
Financial rape, via fiat Dollar and its lagging UST sales:
Exhibit A: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-15/china-japan-sell-most-us-paper-...
Exhibit B: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-18/china-sells-second-largest-amou...
Clearly the Money Changers on Wall St are less concerned about a Neo-Nazi, antisemitic government running the Ukraine, than their world collapsing with their rule over the Dollar. Repeat of the old principle: "Better for one man to die, than..."
In this case, the best thing the Ukrainian army could do is to point out where their politicians are....
KERRY SAYS THERE IS NO MILITARY OPTION ON UKRAINE, AIM IS ON ISOLATING RUSSIA
You're on your own Ukraine... now anyone in Europe not willing to get invaded by Russia... develop nukes in 3...2..1.. go!
EU MULLING TO CANCEL ENERGY CONTRACTS WITH RUSSIA
Buuuuuuuuuuulllllllllshit.
Exactly, you can bet countries started doing that long ago, due to earlier events. When countries see their strategic existence is up for grabs from rogue military superpowers the world is about to get 10K new nukes and 25 or so new nuke powers.
Long GE nuke fuel factories then?
I don't know what a "GE nuke fuel factory" is but certainly "long giga-factories."
Don't forget...Nissan/Renault already have huge facility in Tennessee.
Don't think the fact that there isn't much of an industrial base in France itself doesn't mean France doesn't have an industrial base.
Looks like the Ukrainian PM is counting on 'The West', but 'The West' is populated by Politically Correct pussies in 2014.
They will ask for support and assistance, and the USA, UK, NATO, EU (jointly and severally) will all just sit by and watch.
AFA "GE nuke fuel" it's called a nuclear power plant and they all create plutonium as 'waste that must be stored safely'.
UK and France have nukes (and boomers) and Germany and others could make them in a few weeks.
Just got to know the right people and these things can be, you know, arranged. For research donchaknow.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/chinese-government-demands-japan-t...
Just like Ron Paul wants.
or his son.
Senator durbin say he wants to back the Ukraine with NATO and the IMF on CNN!
LOL the guy is a nut.
Japan said they are offering to send Playstations to assist
I'm shorting Sony.
And "comfort bots". Ukraine and Russia both have declining human capital in need of such. Decades of communism will do that.
So the IMF has to send troops under chief in command Legard and NATO will give them a big bag of money (offer them a loan).
Or do i see it wrong.
Axis & Allies takes a 21st century slant
OT: Played that as a kid. Great game.
Now back to unfolding developments.
ummm...actually..."that would be a salient."
Just like the "Battle of the Bulge" should the Russians "invade" they would in fact be exposed massively on both "flanks."
You can dig in in the Crimea...but then your Navy would have to launch start launching massive "screeneing patrols" in both the Baltic and Black Sea "just in case there is an airborne counter attack."
If your Navy is defeated ("all ships sunk...no new ones on the the way") then "your invasion and occupation force is now exposed."
Your Russian Generals would have to prepare for a LONG occupation.
Of course...you have to have the invasion first.
Again...this is an unprovoked aggression against a Sovereign State that represents not only ZERO threat to Russia...but in fact could be considered PART of Russia..."Russian itself."
Simply put..."simple explanations will do."
So far...so Vlad...
Don't shoot, until you see the Red of their bloodshot eyes.
Russia's state-run Channel One says it won't air the Oscars tonight because of events in Ukraine
Like American news channels would have enough guts to do that...
The real awards were last night. "Planet Nepotism" LOL.
The Enterprise won't be airing the the Oscars either.
If we want a self-congratulation and self-pleasuring party, we'll use the Holodeck.
this thing might go nuclear fast
no more jokes, for me, in europe
Rothschild Agents need Ukraine to become another failed EU Greece. Russia is doing Ukraine a Favor. Rothschilds are willing to blow up the world to control all of it. Sick Fucks!
Well, in that case, they won't like Steven F. Cohen's position and book on Putin and Russia.
Cohen (Prof. Emeritus of Russian Studies at NYU) is just now being interviewed by Fareed Zakaria's program GPS on CNN, and he says that the US Administration and Media have it all wrong. They flashed his book ("The Nation. Media Malpractice: Putin, Sochi and Ukraine").
He explains that Putin is not anti-West or anti-Ukrainian, but "intensely, historically pro-Russian". He and the Russian people see his mission as defensive and internal, to "restore Russia from the disaster of 1991".
"He did not create this Ukrainian crisis, it was imposed on him, and he had no choice but to react".
"If you view Putin in the context of Russian history of the last 400 years... Putin is the least authoritarian, let's call him the most soft authoritarian of Russian rulers in centuries. Putin has been the better for Jews than any leader in Russian history, and if you want evidence of that, just ask Israel."
Zakaria: "What about this Russian neo-Imperialism..."
Cohen: "You and I could argue this for hours, but what if we used the analogy... What if suddenly Russian power suddenly showed up in Canada and Mexico. And provinces in Canada and Mexico said they were going to join Putin's Eurasian economic union and maybe even his military bloc. Surely the American President would have to react as least as forcefully as Putin has."
"Brzezinski and Albright said, for example, that the current government in Kiev is legitimate. Putin says it's not legitimate. I would argue that if you had on your show a panel of Constitutional International Lawyers, they would be hard put to explain how a government which a week ago overthrew the entire Ukrainian Constitutional Order, deposed the elected President, and has been passing anti-Russian legislation in Kiev, and which is at least partially controlled by very extremist forces in the streets, is legitimate. That would be hard to explain." - Prof. SF Cohen
Zakaria: [pause, deflects] "Well, Steven Cohen, that is a fascinating contrarian point of view." [Redirects] "Lots more ahead, we're going to go to Kiev and talk to people there and get their views on the subject..." [to reinforce the official meme]
Fuck you, Albright, Brzezinski and Zakaria! You NWO tools.
"this thing might go nuclear fast"
Not a chance. Appeasement is the dish of the day. And whistling past the graveyard.
Listen to the likes of the Kristol/Krauthammer crew's advice, and then do the opposite.
IMO it's all really none of our(USA) bidness.
We have plenty of our own problems that have never been solved. Where do we get off presuming to advise the rest of the world about their problems?
Limburgh and others used to say the same thing just prior to WWII.
Charles Lindbergh, Robt Taft et al were correct.
Roosevelt's popularity was at an all-time low and he was well on his way out of office (in favor of Wilke) when he benefitted from the orchestrated and self-inflicted event of Dec 7, 1941. That congealed America (which had been decidedly anti-interventionist until then), and, like another false flag on 9/11, it was an event that spawned "you're either for us or against us" rhetoric. Lindbergh dropped his anti-interventionist stance and fell off the public radar. After Dec 7, 1941 Wilke practically campaigned for FDR.
Who did FDR surround himself with? Bankers, Kosher Nostra, and Communists (often triply redundant). He circumvented the US Constitution and the Atty Gen held it up like a ballot with hanging chads. "Yep, if you turn it over on it's side and squint, you can see right here where POTUS can violate the Neutrality Act". If FDR was so willing to intervene he could have done so much earlier and saved tens of millions of lives. His satanic sociopath puppet masters needed blood and were all too happy to gather up increased and conslidated power post-war. Staying out of it would also have saved ten's of millions as Europe would have quickly seen borders re-drawn to their pre-Versaille Treaty status. The Soviet Union's rise would have been smaller and less bloody, and Asia-Pac might have avoided the next 2 war theaters.
Same as it ever was.
i'm surprised no one has brought up this President's low poll numbers yet in this "conversation." This is another "problem" with all this "war talk" in my view.
"Wars are popular" in the sense that if you're looking for attention...you COMMAND it in war.
Uh not this one. See that speech? He cant command his own dog.
Like cutting off oil supply to Japan. The only question was- what nasty thing would the Japanese Empire do in response.
Never let the facts get in the way when emotion can cover all tracks.
It seems to me that any action by NATO against Russia does not have much support from the population in either Europe or America. Any sane part of the population.
Unfortunately the sane portion of the American population is still disturbingly low.
Which brings to mind this quote: "To disagree with three-fourths of the British (American) public is one of the first requisites of sanity."
Next crisis to make Obama look like a fool... China takes over contested islands with Japan...
No one has to take over anything to make that pimpous douchebag look like a fool...just sayin'.
He skipped his own security meeting the other day. I love how this man handles challenges - He doesn't show up.
Calling up Putin on the phone ala Kennedy in '63, missing the brain, heart, and credibility.
not everyone was "AWOL"...and "nor was only the President."
Hard to say if we have any diplomacy right now.
Certainly nothing that has worked.
If Russia is to prevail in the media wars,
it may need to start echoing (if not using verbatim) the language of US and Israeli leaders, e.g.:
The same rules must apply to everybody.
The US has repeatedly stated what are the rules of international conduct for itself and its allies.
Russia has a right of unilateral preventive self-defense, same as claimed by US and its allies such as Israel.
Russia faces an "existential threat" from foreign-funded Ukrainian terrorists and neo-NAZI extremists,
who have publicly threatened to obtain and use (nuclear) weapons of mass destruction
to wipe Russian cities off the map.
The US and EU countries would certainly use military force against any armed terrorists who violently seized government buildings in their own nations. And if necessary, they would certainly have assisted each other in so doing.
'Americanism' started on 1776, July, 4th and such, now, their ways are well known.
'Americans' are duplicitous and have built their system on double standards. Blatant double standards.
Putin has shown how inefficient he is when facing the 'american' ways, doing exactly what 'americans' want him to do.
'Americans' have a right to self defend. Actually, 'americans' never aggress. They always react in self defence.
'Americans' do not recognize others' right to self defense. It does not exist.
Russia will be poorly advised to seek approval from 'americans' when it comes to self defence.
In the US, the mecca of 'americanism' on Earth, you can shoot a 80 years old, striken with Alzenheimer syndrom, who fled from his hospital, on the ground you found him a threat because he banged on your door.
'Americans' have always been toying with a right to kill.