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Ukraine Orders Full Military Mobilization, Acting PM Says Russian Actions "Declaration Of War"
With less than 6 hours left until FX trading opens, no resolution to the Ukraine crisis is in sight. Instead the situation has devolved even more and overnight Ukraine has ordered a full military mobilization in response to Russia's build-up of its forces in Crimea. Prime Minster Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the country was "on the brink of disaster." Several other measures were announced on Sunday by national security officials:
- The armed forces would be put on "full combat readiness".
- Reserves to be mobilised and trained
- Ukraine's foreign minister will seek the help of US and UK leaders in guaranteeing its security
- Emergency headquarters to be set up
- Increased security at key sites, including nuclear plants.
- Airspace closed to all non-civilian aircraft.
Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Sunday that his country was "on the brink of disaster" and personally blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for bringing the two nations to the verge of war. Speaking to reporters at the Ukrainian parliament, Mr. Yatsenyuk called on the international community to rein in Mr. Putin and pressure him to remove troops from the Crimean peninsula, where a majority of residents are ethnic Russians but have Ukrainian passports.
"If President Putin wants to be the president who starts the war between two friendly and neighboring countries, he has [almost] reached this target," Mr. Yatsenyuk said. "We are on the brink of disaster. There was no reason for the Russian Federation to invade Ukraine."
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Western diplomats doubt that the Ukrainian armed forces would be able to match up to the Russian forces already in control of the critical infrastructure and border points in the Crimea.
Ukrainian leaders say that Russia has already sent an additional 6,000 troops to Crimea since tensions arose in the peninsula last week. The two countries have a military agreement that allows Moscow to base forces in the region, but Ukrainian officials accuse Moscow of violating that treaty by not informing Kiev of additional troops, and by moving forces without prior notice. Moscow says that it is in compliance of the accord.
Earlier Sunday, Ukraine's interior minister said Russian officials had approached Ukrainian officers remaining in Crimea and offered them immediate Russian citizenship.
"Across the entire territory of Crimea, Russian emissaries and military officers have invited the remaining Ukrainian interior ministry troops to take Russian citizenship and immediately receive Russian passports," Arsen Avakov wrote on his Facebook page. "This appeal has been aimed at upper and middle officer corps troops."
Mr. Avakov denied that Ukrainian forces had threatened the Russian-speaking population on the largely pro-Russian peninsula, and blamed Russian forces for the sharp militarization of the region.
"In Crimea, there are no forces from the interior ministry or the regular army threatening citizens of the Russian Federation or the Russian-speaking population," he said. "And also no self-defense units from Maidan have arrived from Kiev. All destabilization in the Crimea has come from and been masterminded in Russia."
The BBC adds that it has seen what appear to be Russian troops digging trenches on the Crimean border. Furthermore, a standoff between Ukrainian troops who have fortified a base in the crimean city of Privolnoye, borth place of the late USSR president Mikhail Gorbachev, and Russians who have surrounded them, may be the match that set it all off. Fox reports that hundreds of unidentified gunmen surrounded a Ukraine's infantry base in Privolnoye in its Crimea region Sunday. The convoy included at least 13 troop vehicles each containing 30 soldiers and four armored vehicles with mounted machine guns. The vehicles -- which have Russian license plates -- have surrounded the base and are blocking Ukrainian soldiers from entering or leaving it.
This is the current state of the standoff:
Extraordinary standoff. #Ukraine soldiers defiant behind gates of Perevalne base. Won't surrender. #Crimea pic.twitter.com/uLfphYAXGB
— James Mates (@jamesmatesitv) March 2, 2014
#Privolnoye: 100s of #Russian guns surround #Ukraine #Crimean base, blocking these soldiers http://t.co/9nFII4FWhF pic.twitter.com/wl9Esxiat9
— Ottawa Stare™ (@OttawaStare) March 2, 2014
Squad of Russian reinforcements arrive at Perevalne base where #Ukraine troops surrounded. No sign of them moving in. pic.twitter.com/vFypJnw8dy
— James Mates (@jamesmatesitv) March 2, 2014
In response, acting Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said the move by Russian forces to surround military bases in Crimea was "a declaration of war."
His comments were echoed by acting president Oleksandr Turchynov, who said Ukraine had closed its airspace to non-civilian aircraft. Among the other statements by Yatsenyuk, as reported by the WSJ:
- Ukrainian PM: ‘If President Putin Wants to Be the President Who Starts the War Between Two Friendly and Neighboring Countries, He Has [Almost] Reached This Target’
- Ukrainian PM: ‘We are on the brink of disaster’
- Ukrainian PM: ‘There Was No Reason for the Russian Federation to Invade Ukraine
- Ukrainian PM: We Believe Western Partners and Entire Western Community Will Support Entire Territorial Integrity of Ukraine
- Ukrainian PM: We Believe They Will Do Everything They Can to Stop Russian Military Aggression in Ukraine
- Ukrainian Defense Ministry: All Ukraine’s Border Patrol Ships Moved Out of Crimean Ports to Odessa
- Ukraine PM: Every Half Hour There Are Provocations in Crimea and Ukraine Refuses to Respond to These Provocations
- Ukraine PM: Ukraine Hasn’t Given Permission to Russia to Deploy an Additional 6,000 troops to Crimea
All told, some 6,000 extra Russian troops and 30 additional armoured vehicles are now in Crimea, Ukrainian Defence Minister Ihor Tenyukh said on Saturday.
An interactive map of the key Ukraine battlefields is shown below:
Finallly, there was the traditional escalation in Western diplomacy with both France and Britain announcing they are putting on hold their plans for participation in the G-8 conference to be held in Sochi.
It gets better. From the WSJ:
France is not considering any military action in response to Russia’s decision to deploy troops inside Ukraine, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said Sunday, as Western countries instead sought to renew diplomatic pressure on Moscow.
In an interview with French TV, Mr. Fabius said Poland had requested a meeting of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, military alliance “because it feels threatened by what’s going on in Ukraine.”
Asked if France would intervene militarily in Ukraine, Mr. Fabius responded: “Today, this is not the hypothesis. I’m telling you we want a de-escalation.”
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“France’s position is to call for the suspension of preparation ahead of the G-8 meeting in Sochi as long as the Russian partners have not returned to principles in agreement with the G-8 and G-7,” Mr. Fabius said.
Apparently unlike Mali and the Central African Republic, Russian can fight back.
And then there's this:
- Kerry Says U.S. Considering Sanctions on Russia for Ukraine Move
Well if nothing else stopped Putin, this surely will.
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"We win, they lose". That was Reagan's radical theory about how to handle the evil empire that was the Soviet Union.
The US and EU countries would certainly use military force against any armed terrorists who violently seized government buildings in their own nations. And if necessary, they would certainly have assisted each other in so doing.
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'Americans' can no longer face the reality of the world they've built. The rule of law, the human rights etc...
They prefer to hide in fantasy.
Not so long ago, something like two weeks ago, a government, acknowledged legitimate by 'americans', was deprived by the same 'americans' from the possibility of using forces against rioters drilled in urban warfare, who shot on the police officers, who laid ambushes, who raided official buildings. Some of the rioters were self declared nazis.
Yet 'americans' urged and pressured the legitimate government into not using the required level of force to subdue the rioters.
'Americans' denied that opportunity to a government they considered as legitimate.
And suddenly, 'americans' would grant that recognition to the Russians? Go in, invade a foreign country to put down a riot that 'americans' deprived the legitimate government of the opportunity of squashing?
Added to that, the 'american' behaviour in these cases is well known: they apply maximum force, they lock down the sector, send in the army and the armoured vehicles.
'Americans' can no longer face the world they've built, they need to take shelter in fantasy.
Welcome to an 'american' world, it is a cosy place to live in, you'll see.
economic sanctions won't work against someone who doesn't think along those lines, but they will still be put in place to make it look like someone is "doing something" while time is bought
there's some bookeeping to be done with Afghanistan and the Northern Distribution Network for logistics management but that slack can be picked up easily enough... looks like the defense cuts aren't going to happen this time around, that's fine it was never meant to happen anyway
Ukraine has some agreements in place but they aren't EU and they aren't NATO... too bad they had their chance, that's what you get for playing both sides by asking to audit proceedings in the Eurasian Union... basically twiddling your thumbs instead of picking a side, and now you want help from the West... yeah we'll get right on that
Russia is still a key member in talks related to Iran nukes and Syria, so it's not like the West can just take their ball and go home... this will have an impact on future considerations in bringing Russia to any negotiation table in the ME in the future, however... trust is low
maybe the EU can start handing out EU passports to Ukrainian citizens and then claim they need to protect them as justification for sending in the troops... it's 'Putin logic' so why not lol
looks like G8 is going to be a bust... might be time to suspend Russia's membership
Putin was wanting to boost trade with the US... so much for that... enjoy falling back to being a one-trick pony petro dictator, Vlad... maybe you should tell all the war hawks pushing you around to sit down and stfu
looks like all the work around NATO / Russian cooperation is going to get flushed, get ready for accelerated missile defense programs, game on in Poland and Czech Republic
way to go Vlad... you took the bait
work on missile defense shield encircling russia will lead us to a thermonuclear war and extermination of life on Earth
Let's get serious. This move is a direct threat to the existence of Russia and they have told it multiple times
well then maybe Russia shouldn't do stupid shit that makes people want to build missile defense shields... they can start by turning their fucking tail and getting the hell out of Ukraine territory... just a suggestion, comrade
It is the US-led NATO that is doing the stupid stuff.
They have broken the post Cold War agreement not to extend NATO bases up to the Russian border.
(The US has already shown how it feels about missile bases near its border...Cuba. The Russians have abided by that agreement.)
The US missile bases are not simply "defensive". They upset any balance of power by curtailing any Russian retaliation to a US first strike...and US military policy now claims a first strike (euphimistically called 'pre-emptive') to be acceptable, all morality aside. Moreover, nuclear armed missiles in such proximity to Russia would allow a US first strike with almost no warning.
Putin is fucking moron.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qw3287pOirI/Utdio-Dq-hI/AAAAAAACXNM/B...
Takes one to know one?
Big deal. Who knows where BHO would be trying to put it.
Obama can have his own war finally after the few unsuccessful attempts with YouTube evidence in Syria. We do hope that it will be only Financial War and we can see the first rounds of it this week. Initially US Dollar went up on the escalation of the situation in Ukraine - as any potential military action in the world is supposed to be positive for the U.S. Military Complex, but on Friday with major headlines from Moscow about Ukraine Dollar has dived decisively below 80.00 to the 79.78 close.After these U.S. actions in Ukraine considered as an insult by the Kremlinthe least you can expect is selling of the US Treasuries by Russia and, maybe, already accelerating of selling by China as well . They have been already smelling the rat about the USTs Game Of Musical Chairs for a long time. It is just too personal. None of these two countries - or it will be better say leaders - would like to be liberated next in any circumstances. The big difference with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria is that all those countries can not be compared to Russia and China even close. These two countries have means to make life very messy for everybody involved and U.S. has managed to be involved with both. It is getting very hot very fast in Ukraine with Russia and you can imaging who is orchestrating China - Japan confrontation as well. It is not the way to make friends and find the new buyers for U.S. Debt or even retain the old ones. Are those people who write the teleprompter for Obama just went totally crazy? We do not think so. Unfortunately the friends are lost long time along the way with ongoing US Treasury sales by Russia and China and diversification out of US Dollar. Now we are witnessing the very dangerous play with the last asset left in U.S. from Super Power stage - its Military Complex. There is nothing to match it in the open confrontation, but if we will be all lucky to exclude mutual nuclear distraction, we can expect a lot of asymmetrical steps from the Rising Powers. Ongoing Financial War can now be considered to be escalating to the dramatically new levels. Gold was managed to the downside to hide the ongoing disaster at least for the weekend. The opening of Gold market in Asia on Sunday evening will be very interesting with the ongoing escalation in Ukraine and reported authorisation by the Russian Upper House of Parliament the use of military force in Crimea to insure "stability in the region". http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/ukraine-and-peter-schiff-recovery.ht...
what a machine
http://rt.com/files/news/23/04/a0/00/a-4.jpg
Simferopol resident poses for a photograph with a soldier. (RIA Novosti/Andrey Stenin)
"what a machine "
The guns or the legs?
the legs of course
those kinds can wreck way more havoc than the guns
Oh yeah. Bring 'em on!
OT (slightly) but when are we going to develop beyond hand held kinetic energy weapons with a gunpowder-expanding gas propellant? Yea, they're more sophisticated now than a blunderbuss, but this shit's been around for 1000 yrs and the PKM that he's holding is getting old.
Don't kid yourself, they're super-reliable, just like the AK series. What you and may others probably don't know is how Russian infantry can punch way over their weight- - among other nasties, they also possess infantry-portable fuel-air explosives (FAE) that are utterly devastating in effect. Read on:
Thermobaric weapon From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe Soviet armed forces extensively developed FAE weapons,[29] such as the RPO-A, and used them in Chechnya.[30]
The Russian armed forces have developed thermobaric ammunition variants for several of their weapons, such as the TGB-7V thermobaric grenade with a lethality radius of 10 metres (33 ft), which can be launched from a RPG-7. The GM-94 is a 43 mm pump-action grenade launcher which is designed mainly to fire thermobaric grenades for close quarters combat. With the grenade weighing 250 grams (8.8 oz) and holding a 160 grams (5.6 oz) explosive mixture, its lethality radius is 3 metres (9.8 ft); however, due to the deliberate "fragmentation-free" design of the grenade, 4 metres (13 ft) is already considered a safe distance.[31] The RPO-A and upgraded RPO-M are infantry-portable RPGs designed to fire thermobaric rockets. The RPO-M, for instance, has a thermobaric warhead with a TNT equivalence of 5.5 kilograms (12 lb) of TNT and destructive capabilities similar to a 152 mm High explosive fragmentation artillery shell.[32][33] The RSgH-1 and the RSgH-2 are thermobaric variants of the RPG-27 and RPG-26 respectively. The RSgH-1 is the more powerful variant, with its warhead having a 10 metres (33 ft) lethality radius and producing about the same effect as 6 kg (13 lb) of TNT.[34] The RMG is a further derivative of the RPG-26 that uses a tandem-charge warhead, whereby the pre-cursor HEAT warhead blasts an opening for the main thermobaric charge to enter and detonate inside.[35] The RMG's pre-cursor HEAT warhead can penetrate 300 mm of reinforced concrete or over 100 mm of RHA, thus allowing the 105 millimetres (4.1 in) diameter thermobaric warhead to detonate inside.[36]
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We cannot project ourselves into the Ukraine in any meaningful way. We have neither the fuel nor the man power to fight a conventional war against Russia in Europe or anywhere else. The only way we could possibly win a war against Russia would be a nuclear first strike that would necessitate a Russian counter strike.
It should be remembered that one Russian submarine off of either coast could drop us back in the dark ages in an afternoon.
This is not 1941 America. We are not an oil exporting nation. We are not an industrial power house. We simply cannot fight WW II over again. None of the three big players is going to be able to take out the other without losing control of his own country. Even if one country could martial the men and material to invade the other, nuclear weapons have made Normandy style invasions obsolete. The land masses are too great to be occupied by even a few million men. Look what has happened to every conventional army that marched off into Russia. The same would happen to any army that tried to occupy North or South America. It simply cannot be done.
Valid points. Ukraine needs to consider splitting. If half the country is loyal to the invader...well...
Oh, and before you say a smaller percentage was loyal in the US during the Revolution, see points above, by cloud 9.5 and I can think of many others. IT IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME (in Ukraine, different than America, that is)
Where are the blue helmets when they are really needed?
I suspect, too busy raping easy pickings in Africa.
A UN prescence would make Putin think twice about a military attack, only because he would kill Un troops.
I hear Angela Merkel called up some reserves this morning and has the Wehrmacht on full alert. Being that she's meeting with David Cameron, I'm sure Britain is on board too. Maybe America's weak as well water leaders plan on going into Ukraine behind our European allies instead of at the front?
yeap sure, german, UK, french armies lol that should scare the world !!
Nor should we! If it's not in American interests (and of course, it's not), just whose interests is the "USA" advancing?
Gosh I have no earthly idea, can any of you nice folks help?
Putin will protect Russian speaking people in Ukraine.
Putin will protect Russian assets in Ukraine.
Putin will not allow Monsanto to poison the farmland with GMO seeds.
Obama will protect only Spanish/ESL speaking people in USA.
Obama will sell all American assets to China.
Obama will allow Monsanto to poison the farmland with GMO seeds and gladly accept campaign donations from any and all corporate interests.
Why the fuk is a banker running the new Ukraine? Oh nevermind.
He's there to take an inventory of Ukranian collateral for the IMF loans.
Ya mean Yats the Yid?
How The IMF Will Loot UkraineCan in play out this way ?
Let them have Crimea....put the rest of Ukraine under NATO. Treaty of 1994 broken...Nukes back in Ukraine.
Putting the rest of Ukraine in NATO won't calm down tensions... what about Ukraine gives back Crimea to Russia... then Ukraine can do whatever the fuck they want after that except join NATO? They can commit economic suicide by joining the EU if they want... or stay independant... dividing up Ukraine in 2 will just create even more shit since western Ukraine will be poor as fuck.
I am not sure even if after giving back Crimea, the Ukraine can do anything they want.
Bankster-run, hopelessly broke and debt-ridden, no jobs: Western Ukieville will make a wonderful addition to the EU, fit right in.
CIA covertly foments uprising so that team USA can nation build and spread democracy. Lolololol
Cental banksters are installed and western puppets placed. Lololol
rinse and repeat.
Im glad …utin is standing up against this shitsandwhich that these elite assholes keep trying to make us eat.
Awwwwwww. Does this mean the HNIC has to miss his KFC and golf this week? Fuck that turd colored muslo-communist pussy.
Impeach!
The CIA spreads mob rule across the globe.
Yes but ask urself who controls the CIA...sure isnt the Amerikan people
i'm not sure if it's the CIA either...
Read the CIA's mission statement on its website. The CIA services a base of customers, not exclusively the US Constitution. The US Constitution may be a customer from time to time, but that doesn't stop them from servicing a competitor from time to time. JFK saw the threat of competing interests, but alas, the man is dead.
a community coordinator does what a community coordinator does, it makes for effect global policy /s
A community of uninformed sheep being led to the slaughter house by the community's trusted Judas goats. The enemy inside the gate is much worse than the enemy outside it.
Just a stroll down recent history lane based on Cameron's and Obammy's declaration to the effect : "THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR OUTSIDE MILITARY INTERVENTIon IN UKRAiNE"...
On that basis :
1° What was the excuse to dismember Libya which had a legitimate; albeit despotic; government for 40 years under Q-Daffy. We have seen what stability that has brought to Libya now fractured into 6 tribal zones. This was a blatant case of Nation destruction to build a shell state to suit one's own kleptocratic oil agenda (which has backfired as Libyan oil production is down below 230 thousand BBl/day from 1600 thousand in the past!).
2° What excuse was there in starting a proxy war in Syria, against another despot who has been in power for 40+ years, aka the Assad clan? And where is the logic of using Sunni extremists to achieve this against an avowed secular Syrian government, all the while the US administration says "Al Qaeda is our N° 1 global enemy from Pakistan to Boko Haram!"
3° What excuse was there in accelerating the demise of a duly elected Yanukovich regime; albeit corrupt; where the EU/Ukrainian clique in power had signed an agreement to define a peaceful path to new elections given the turmoil in Maidan. Why junk that plan and install an ad hoc government under pressure and money from outside influence (of the type "fuck you EU" diatribe). Could not the NEW Ukrainian "nation building" to western SPECS adhere to due process of law enacted by tripartite (Russia, Ukraine, EU) signed conventions and subsequent legal, elective representation... rather than mob ad hoc, demagogic auto proclamation of new government?
Having created ALL these unlawful acts (by international standards of law applying to sovereign states), the West, aka the US/UK/France as main military and diplomatic protagonists in ALL THREE conflagrations mentioned above, now are in total contradiction with their OWN PAST acts when they play at being Caesar's wife in Ukraine.
INternational precedence created by one's very acts, in indelible ink of people's blood, is a BITCH, that has a sting of an uncaged raging black mamba; in inevitable blowback as today in Ukraine as in Syria.
Caesar's wife has the face of Messalina or Theodora thinking she wears pristine white whereas her hands are stained with the orgiastic rites of gory bunga bunga played out by her proxy legions in Benghazi and Damascus, as elsewhere all over the ME doing God's work of establishing freedom and democracy.
"Bring down that wall Mr Gorbatchev so that we can replace it with the NSA matrix"...
The excuse is when WE do it it's a good thing because WE said so.
The excuse is known since 1776, July, 4th when 'americans' hijacked humanity with their natural rights theory.
'Americans' act on the behalf of humanity. They act to further the welfare of human beings in general.
'Americans' do not act in their own names. They act to further greater goals than mere temporal human made entities.
'Americans' act on the behalf of any human being who walked, is walking, will walk the Earth.
Nothing less. Nothing more.
For 'americans', it is not even an excuse. It is a duty.
'Americanism' is the best thing to have ever happened to humanity.
A nation like a man is judged not by what he says but by what he does.
THose early Americans took on the world's biggest colonial empire and won. So they put their acts in accordance with 1776 declaration.
We should applaud them for that and the world has over the ages.
Its not the role of Pax Americana currently.
You need to make your theory fit historical reality. Right now it smells of Chinese smog.
Regarding Syria, I saw Mexican gangs fighting with the FSA
and now we have two Americans on the ISS with no way down...brilliant
I don't see how Ukraine's economy can survive without their major Black sea port in Crimea. Putin knows he does not have to take the whole country. All he has to do is hold Crimea and Ukraine will slowly wither. Probably the best anyone can hope for at this point is a negotiated settlement wherebye Ukraine is split along language lines, the east going to Russia, and the west staying independent. Nobody should desire a hot war.
You mean Odessa?
Sorry but Sevastopol is not their major port.
Split along language lines . . . as if that makes it legitimate. Maybe France can reclaim Quebec.
Split the Ukraine in half, put Kerry and Clinton on the border to keep Putin in check.
That should settle things down.
Is there room on that bus for Bohner, Reid, McCain, Pelosi, Waters, Feinstien and Rangle?
Send the whole rotten lot.
And Bill Kristol?
hmmm. "counter intervention" is starting to sound better by the Day here...
I made no mention of musicians but I would add Dick Rove.
Peace in our time.
Protect Ukranian farmland from Monsanto's GMO seeds! These seeds will make Ukraine more dependent on the US than the IMF loans.
In that pic the Ukrainian troops look terrified and who could blame them. They are probably wondering if their puppet masters have already left by helicopter. I expect the white flag will roll out quickly and it should, none of these boys deserve to die for this BS.
Some people think nothing is worth fighting for, not their country, not freedom from domination by a dictator, and not the liberty granted by a Constitution.
The disaffected ethnic Russians forced a breakup of Czechoslovakia, but at least there was historical precedence and it was not imposed by a foreign power.
"The disaffected ethnic Russians forced a breakup of Czechoslovakia,"
Maybe you could add a little bit here?
Make no mistake about it, they are going to do this to the United States also.
It's called Agenda 21. Sustainable development is the plan for global domination by Western powers. We need a strong global competitor like Russia to fight global Communism. Would the world really be a better place for you and me without competition? Without competition, the engine of growth would stop, and we would all become slaves to one group of global masters. The idea that the NWO will love you is insane. The NWO is just another Communist front under different leadership.
Imagine if you would have made a statement like this in the 80s. :)
In the 80s, Reagan was content with ending the Cold War, not winning it. Today, the NWO wants to consolidate power and dominate the globe like a Communist. The Queen is the current figurehead.
If/when things go from bad to worse in the Ukraine, expect Israel to move on Iran.
With American goyim cannon fodder?
Let us hope not. Time for sissy jew boys to put their own bodies at risk for once.
If things got very ugly elsewhere I'd expect them to use the distraction to ethnically cleanse Palestine, not start another war when America is too busy to assist.
Will Israel keep a few Palestinians alive to exhibit at the national zoo when the genocide is complete? Any day now, right? Maybe a few DNA samples can be maintained for historical purposes only. It's the only real Semite blood in Israel.
Thought I would share this. Good Info.
http://www.gmfus.org
War unfolding channel 26; TimeLife "Songs of the 70s" Infomercial channel 27.
We are witnessing the realigning of power. The hard truth is the post WWII American presence on the world stage is contracting. The grand scheme of a one world government is falling apart. Peak oil has seen to that. Yes aircraft carries and nation killing submarines run on nuclear power, but they cannot occupy one inch of ground. Air and ground forces run on oil. They and they alone can occupy and hold ground. Only one tiny island nation has ever been bombed into submission. Even then, it was occupied by ground forces.
Power vacuums are resulting as energy bleeds out of the system. Each of the three great powers is having considerable difficulty retaining control of its own region. We cannot secure or own borders or successfully occupy Detroit. Russia and China are having their own difficulties.
It depends entirely on the resolve of the Ukrainians as to how this is going to play out. Should this devolve into the typical asymmetrical battle zone, in a protracted conflict, the Russians are going to be facing an ever increasing loss of blood and treasure. This could destabilize the heartland.
Ides of March kicked in quick this year.
I'm English ... been a soldier ... and yet I can't help rooting for the Russians.
I soooooo want our Western Overlords to get smacked in their smug faces. If that means supporting Putin, that's OK by me.
Does anyone else feel this way?
Yes indeed. Time to roust the globalist New Bolsheviks.
I'm US ex-mil. I concur. Alluded to that viewpoint on my brief prior rant below.
Yes-- I too want to be liberated from the globalist Bolsheviks. I support Putin and the Russians -they have every right to defend themselves from encirclement and meddling by the US on their borders and in there sphere of influence-the US has been conqurered and occupied by the zio-globalists for far too long.
Oops, you used the 'z' word. Curiously you garnered 2 down arrows (as of my posting) while the posts that predate yours and said the same thing received no down arrows.
Curiously? Nah, predictable as the sun coming up:
Encirclement by . . . democratic countries? You go ahead and support a Russian invasion, but don't expect them to act any differently than they did in Hungary in '56, or Poland. Cheer them on and call yourself anti-war. Of course the easiest way to avoid war for freedom loving Ukranians is to just surrender.
I am reminded of the American politician who remarked that all the blood that would be shed in a war between the states could be wiped up with a handkerchief. Wars to end all wars, peace in our time are all slogans that are proof positive of our inability to calculate the risk of conflict. Edmund Ruffin a slave holder and fire eater became the consummate abolitionist of his time when he pulled the lanyard on the cannon that fired the first shot into Fort Sumter.
Looking at Hitler and his grandiose schemes, I am quite convinced that he never imagined he would end his days hiding in a ruined Berlin with a pistol in his mouth while the Russians kicked in the door.
The revival of the Cold War sends chills down my spine. Research for your own amusement how many times we came close to reducing western civilization to a nuclear wasteland. Your discoveries will no doubt be sobering. But by the grace of God do any of us still exists. The lust for adventure put many a young man in a muddy trench and in an early grave. Be careful what you wish for.
You been watching too much History Channel.
like hell Hitler didn't know that.
That's why they called it "the Walk of Death."
Everyone knew it was suicidal.
Again...this is not to agree with any of it.
"All he knew was war."
Napoleon accepted "liberation movements" as part of the Game.
Nobody "wants" war either.
It's the "contradiction" of the business...on the hand you know it kills you. On the other hand you want it more than anything.
This is why we have "diplomats" and "diplomacy"...to keep these things from happening in the first place.
And of course why we have Historians as well...to remind us all that "sometimes we get exactly what we are NOT looking for."
But of course...you have to find the right words.
In my case..."disabledvet finds all the WRONG words."
And this is by design...to get people to THINK about how ACTIONS have implications...and "once you unleash from the staging areas" you can get the exact opposite of your "intent."
Oh, and...btw...as an historian..."this happens all the time in life." There is a point where it makes on "philosophical" in nature...to wonder...why do people love what in fact hurts them or causes themselves great personal pain and suffering?
Hitler was a terrible miltary leader. Just awful.
He did not listen to his advisors as a matter of course.
Results:
-Dunkirk evacuation. Should have killed them all.
-Not going after UK and invading and winning BoB.
-Not repositioning forces prior to June 1944
-Not repositioning forces during and immediately after D-Day
-Going after Stalin. The biggest error. With all of The Reich's forces on the coast, no way Allies survive a landing.
-Splitting his forces rather than go right for Mockba.
-Not upgrading his crypto-tech
-Not using jets as bombers, not building enough of them
He knew the history, but he also knew that Finland won against Russia in 1940 and Germany was a little larger than Finland in 1940. Just a little bit more throw-weight. The weather did not help, that's just bad luck on top of bad decisions.
What kind of a world would we have today without Russia or China? Who would be the Communist? Oh, you say Communism would cease to exist? I'm laughing at you.
We would be the commies, they're all around you. Just look at your closest liberal.
I’m more anti Rothschild than pro Putin. To quote the cinema masterpiece Alien vs Predator “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Guess that makes Putin the predator and Rothschild the Aliens.
Well the US is certainly doing a good job painting Russia black on this one---for those that don't know just how evil the US really is and there's plenty of them.
And last but not least:
"Declaration of War"
Alas no 'state of emergency', no chance of 'default', nothing to possibly upset the flashing green lights of wallstreet come tomorrow morning.
One of these mornings the quants will be faced with 'this does not compute' and then the shtf for real. Maybe.....lol.
B
http://live.reuters.com/Event/World_News
I fail to understand how what Russia is doing in the Ukraine different from what USA did in Iraq and Afghanisthan. It is all about what Bullies do and what they think they can get away with.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.html
You fail to understand because you haven't been paying attention to the game played by the men behind the zionist-curtain.
You don't understand that we left Iraq, are leaving Afghani-fuckingstan, and the Russkies are never going to leave Crimea?
Only the USSA-Nato has the exclusive right to; Bomb, Invade and Destroy other countries".. how dare the Russians to....
S&P 2000 by the end of the week. Bearish gold. Sell it all now! I'm sure Goldmans/JP Morgan will give you $800/oz if you're quick on Monday morning.
The Ukraine is not worth a fight or more aid from anywhere. Ukraine has for some time been restive because it needs to trade outside of Russian sphere to survive as an economy. Putin's fifedoms within the croney socialism in Russia are at war with Putin'a constant demands for payoffs to the tin god of a police state. Gas diplomncy is not going to work as a Russian foreign policy. This little war that is brewing is a distraction to the main event further south. There Putin has misread Iran where his real problems are that Iran has laced Russia with its religious warlords. Iran with make things hard for Putin along this border. Meanwhile the Black Sea will keep his "fleet" busy try to hold a warm water port in the mideast, why?
The real tradegy is elsewhere in the mideast where Iran is rubbing everyones face in its nuclear pile, while Syrian warlords dance on Obama's red line in the sand and Israel pushes it airforce towards a full alert to visit Iranian skies one night soon.
Nitwit in da house
Everything you said was stupid.
"After my next election I will have more flexibility....to let you take over Europe."
Lugansk to hold referendum on March 10th to separate from Ukraine
http://www.0642.ua/news/486635
Any idea what percent of Lugansk region is pro-Russian?
Are US & EU going to throw a hissy fit over portions of East Ukraine voting to leave and unite with Russia? It's called "self-determination", remember?
The mistake I think Russia may be making is that by accepting Crimea and parts of current South and East Ukraine into Russia, what is left of Ukraine will vote for fascist nationalists who will join NATO. Russia may be better off letting Ukraine remain in its current form where the population is about 50% pro-Russia, and exert economic pressure to keep it from getting too close to NATO.
Obama and the media have attacked the very Americans that normally would back up the commander in chief of the Armed forces.
Not this time. No way.
If I can't OWN a gun, I will not CARRY one for this government!
It's about time someone (Putin) stands up against the Obama/Kerry/Banksters & Co., assholes!
You are dreaming Hannibal. Wake up.
The training will consist of learning to take orders from fascist commanders appointed by the Kiev rump parliament.
Ukraine is outnumbered, outgunned, and very late to the party. They have no domestic oil production at all and are bankrupt. Plus, an unknown percentage of its military won't take orders from Right Sector's Waffen SS v2.0.
I wouldn't be wringing my hands in fear if I was Vlad.
*On another note: I am beginning to suspect that the entire Obozo-orchestrated Ukraine fiasco may, in fact, be convenient cover for a massive stock market crash that has already been planned...
...then again, maybe I'm crazy.
"Yats" the Yid, good one Brother Nat: How The IMF Will Loot Ukraine
Wikipedia assures us he is an Orthodox Christian.
Also half of Klitch's and the chick with the braids background.
Odd.
0.7% of the population.
Most of the oligarchs, of course.
Last central banker, too. Switched out for some window dressing.
Cute.
The chick with braids is half Ukrainian and half Latvian.
no, she's definitely around half jewish
http://www.wikiyulia.com/index.php?title=Origins
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1448
the "smear campaign" was ugly, sure, but not entirely false
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/campaign-gets-dirty-leaflets-sme...
Really, most of the oligarchs are Jewish, as well, and their right wing knows it. It was a similar theft in Russia.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44953-2005Mar17.html
How do you think "canards" get to be 'canards'?
Real name: Abramowitch. Emphasis on the witch :-)
Her right hand Yatsenyuk is also half-jewish
But i have to tell you these are the only two that are moderate and can actually sit and talk and deal with russia
Checked out market impact of the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia in august´68... dow actually ROSE about 1 % during the 2 days...and another 15 % by the end of 68. .. so don´t expect even a 3-digit drop tomorrow ;-)
"Buy the cannons, sell the trumpets."
But DO expect a PM beatdown. It's the days gold that should rise the most in reaction to so many wonderful global developments that we've seen the cartel lock it down and knock it down. Let's see if that pattern repeats tonight.
Q: What possible reason would gold NOT rise in the face of this Yid-created fiasco?
A: Fellow tribesters covering for them
Wall Street loves war...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48351487/Sutton-Wall-Street-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution-1974
http://www.scribd.com/doc/90701506/War-is-a-Racket-by-Smedley-Butler
The acting thugs in Kiev put their flag on top of the parliament building, banned the use of Russian as a language, and think that they can mobilize anything in Ukraine?
What happens when half their military doesn't respond?
Maybe they can call another UN security council meeting where the Russians will argue that the acting government in Kiev is illegitimate. Those not being bribed or blackmailed by the US state department will agree.
Fade this war. The street thugs in Kiev are going to be crushed quickly.
You nailed that one pretty well Catullus. For all of the things that are going on there the Russian language ban really seemed to resonate with the average Russian and it is almost like it was planned to be that way. That really pissed off the Russians and I heard about it directly yesterday.(and more)
Do I have any financial interest in Ukraine? No, I don't. Do I in Russia? Yes. Did I want financial interest in Russia or enter into it as an investment option? No. I really want nothing to do with it. They are nothing but a bunch of pricks and crooks in both countries. It will never change.
The baby blue UN can go fuck itself. I would not discount Ukraine so quickly though. There is a very long history there as I am sure you know. This has more to do with emotions regarding past transgressions. Do not underestimate Ukraine.
The next thing you know is that the Poles will get involved if anything serious happens. There is not a lot of love there between Rus and Pole.
it does not surprise me at all that they banned russian language. They are carrying hot pots in place of their heads, they hate russia so much that they start feeling sick when their ears hear russian speech
It is that bad in there in western ukrain. These are seriously ill people. I cant believe they have actually come to power
They still refuse to go to Moscow to talk peace. What are they thinking ?
Pizdet..
Propaganda is in full flow. Here's what UK Channel 4 news says today in its daily e-mail:
haha, zayats Yatsenyuk (his nickname is Zayats "Rabbit") is pretty afraid that Russian Spetsnaz will kick his and his Nazi friend's Yarosh's asses.
Again? How many betrayals?! First serfdom, then the Soviets, then WW2, then hiatus after collapse of Soviets, now this. When does it end? Where's the UN?
EXECUTION BY HUNGER, Miron Dolot. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/239874.Execution_by_Hunger
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Solzhenitsyn-200...
Any Occidental Observer link = automatic up vote. Thanks for providing it Johnny.
No subtleties in the article. None needed. Worthy read Cocknballs.
<saved> read links for future.
Take your "sports" analogies and stick up your shiney pink asshole. There gettin' READY TO RUMBLE! Somebody is huffing and puffing us into a stupid assed war. Did you hear! The Sunk the Main! It happened in Haifong Harbor, on 911, terror, terror wawr on terr, mobile labs, yellow cake, al cadda.
No shit huh. MSM PR is really ramping on all of this.
What are the chances this goes to '11' on the dial before the markets open. It would be the ultimate 'pull the rug out' scenerio.
Of course it will. Gold and silver will tank again of course. Fucking cunts. I am not selling so they can fuck off.
+1 We aren't going. Fuck moar war. I have tried to get control of this shitshow called government. They are idiots. To argue with an idiot makes oneself an idiot. They don't listen unless you donate big $. What a fucking joke it is. Go vote....yeah, OK. We ought to be minding our own business because we have problems here at home. How about we start right here? Just a thought.
#breaking news: Russia invaded the Crimean.....well, not really. ;-)
https://twitter.com/alwinleemhuis/status/439730061340839936/photo/1
From the Griffin Interview with Norman Dodds 1983 ... on FOUNDATIONS , secret Agendas and Policy Capture :
..." We shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union "....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLABA1D710D07ADF6D&v=lMVZSsPzaTc&featu...
Make sure you continue watching until at least the end of Part 4.
How many of our problems trace back to Bill Clinton?
- Repealed Glass-Steagall, allowing banks to invest and get TBTF
- Got Ukraine to give up nuclear weapons, claiming "the US will protect you"
- Ignored repeated warnings about Al Qaeda until they attacked us, then ignored them some more
- Strong-armed banks to comply with sub-prime lending standards (at first...later, the banks did it willingly)
- Had Sallie Mae/Freddie Mac underwrite sub-prime loans, guaranteeing origination of a metric shit-ton of bad loans
This goes back much farther than just Clinton.
The FED was established in 1913.
Founder of the CFR was Edward M House. He was a Communist. Blame him.
Ummm, You forgot to mention the allowing of missile secrets to be sold to Chiny VIA a LORAL Corporation
BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH
BREAKING; The newly appointed head of Ukraine's navy has sworn allegiance to Russia.
Now that is the kind of stuff that Bankster/Neocon lackey's cannot control. I hope we see more as it will make any kind of war impossible as everyone will be on one side. Takes two to Tango. I hope every Ukraine soldier defects or simply refuses to fight. Unconditional surrender is best as the least lives will be lost. It will throw a monkey in the wrench of the Bankster playbook too.
Correct IR. They need to tone it down about five notches.
Ukrainian troops in Crimea have sworn allegiance to the Crimean authorities in Sevastopol en masse.
“the majority of the Ukrainian armed forces deployed in Crimea” have passed to the side of the region. The transition was made “without a single shot fired,”
Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate has refused to follow orders from Kiev, came over to Russia’s side and was returning home from the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.
“I, Rear Admiral Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt9efnLV4UY
Wonder how much he got paid for that.
Russia "Hey if we give you 30 million in Gold and a Villa in the South would you switch sides and plant the Russian Flag on your stern?"
Berezovsky thinks for 10 seconds then "Ya, ok."
Was probably a very short conversation or...... Berezovsky was always on the Russian side.
Hogwash. Official statement by rear admiral Andrey Tarasov is that the frigate did not defect, crew is "outraged" by the statement that they are flying under Russian naval flag. Correct dislocation of the frigate is Greek naval base at the island of Crete, where the frigate is stationed for re-supply.
Rear admiral Berezovsky has already been replaced by rear admiral Sergiy Gaiduk.
Russians start building coastal fortifications that suprisingly look like ocean front condominiums.
"We ain't broke Ukranians here in Crimea...we're Russians with money.
Russians get condos and IMF gets the western Ukraines debt.
Ukrainians get robbed both ways and everyone is happy.
Well, not everyone...but 2 out of three ain't bad.
Long the YEN at the open....
but it sucks too
S-400 SAM Air Defence system deployed in Crimea.
"Our communication system in Crimea can withstand a nuclear attack."-RussiaNow lets see if the LA Times has new want ads for Raytheon and Haliburton and GE to supply Russia with military equipment. Those crafty globalists in control of Washington DC are at it again.
675,000 Ukrainians pour into Russia as ‘humanitarian crisis’ looms
Does anyone have info on how many are seeking asylum in E.U. (Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania)?
Refugees from all warring nations are welcome in the US. Schumer will give them unlimited lifetime benefits and Cuomo a liberal education in their native language. Bring your orthodox religion and bomb a marathon while you are at it.
Ukraine stuck - EU or Russia.
Kinda fucked.
Long Green Camo Paint!!!
Kerry waiving a piece of paper and saying it's peace for our time in 3, 2, 1
If not there will be a ketchup embargo
Acting PM Says Russian Actions "Declaration Of War".... (spoken like a True Central Banker who Loves Debt)
Listened to John Kerry all over the Sunday morning news shows; Here on Meet the Press;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8mUZIEh7IE
at 1:40 “You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interest”
I couldn’t believe he said that with a straight face. He should have added unless of course you are the USA.
John is swift boating over the truth. The Purple Heart is in the mail, John.