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US Ships Approaching Sevastopol? Mapping US Naval Assets

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Here's what is known with certainty:

Yesterday, US Aircraft Carrier CVN-77 George H.W. Bush crossed the Strait of Gibraltar.

This was largely expected, and the path of aircraft carrier into the Mediterranean was known well in advance. As of late last week, this is what was known about the distribution of US naval forces around the world (Source: Stratfor).


Here's what is not known with certainty:

It is not known if CVN-77 will continue to its scheduled final waypoint, the Arabian Gulf, or make a detour into the Black Sea.

It is also not known if as some suggested earlier on Twitter, and completely without confirmation, that a state of high alert was declared on the carrier.

Once again, this rumor has seen zero confirmation anywhere else so we assume it is false.

It is not known is if the report by Sevastopol News that the two US warships have already crossed the bosphorus and would arrive at the Crimean port shortly is real or fake. From the website:

The U.S. Navy will arrive in Sevastopol in four hours? As we have just learned from unofficial sources in the Naval Forces of Ukraine, headed for the shores of Sevastopol at full speed, are two ships of the United States Navy.


According to preliminary information, two destroyers carrier battle groups have already passed the Bosphorus.


Recall that part of the Black Sea Fleet warships are now off the coast of Sochi. Yesterday, a large landing ship "Kaliningrad" from the Baltic Fleet entered the Black Sea. And as we have previously reported, to Sevastopol is returning the Ukrainian frigate "Hetman Sahaidachny."

There has been no official comment.

Of the above, the most important unknown is whether indeed the US is entering the black sea in what would be a direct confrontation with the Russian fleet. Considering the earlier report of the defection of the Ukranian navy head, this would not be surprising as the US would certainly need naval presence in the waters close to the Crimean, especially following the report that the Crimean PM just announced the creation of a regional - i..e, non-Ukraine - navy.

Those who wish to do so can keep track of the status of CVN-77 George H.W. Bush on its facebook page located here.

Alternatively, a good place to keep track of who crosses in and out of the Black Sea is the Bosphorus Naval News.


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Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:00 | 4498153 valkir
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Going thru Gibraltar,doesnt promise going thru Bosforus.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:02 | 4498162 johngaltfla
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I agree. Also if the firing begins, the Black Sea is more of a bathtub than the Persian Gulf and our ships would be sitting ducks. Odds are they will position themselves opposite the Russian fleet in the Eastern Med.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:05 | 4498175 DoChenRollingBearing
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The Ukraine is not our fight.  We should just stay the hell out.


There are only TWO US carriers available for duty?  

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:11 | 4498192 wuush
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There are 4 Pacific Carriers available too.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:12 | 4498215 Skateboarder
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Didn't we go through this very exact exercise a few months ago for Syria?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:19 | 4498243 wuush
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Im new here so i dont know what you are referring to.

But i think most of the US Navy is now in the Pacific due to the shift of focus to Asia/Pacific)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:40 | 4498324 Headbanger
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You mooks are forgetting something. .. Turkey is just some 200 miles south of Crimea.

And some 1000 miles south of Moscow.

Hellooooo!!   Can you hear me now!!??

Or maybe Finland would like to settle an old score from before WWII??

Got Mosin??

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:00 | 4498410 Keyser
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Nott even Bozo is stupid enough to order US carriers to Sevastapol. Well, let's hope not anyway. 


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:18 | 4498467 ersatzteil
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It's still up to Turkey to allow the carrier battle group through the bosporous. Technically aircraft carriers and ships armed with 205mm or larger cannon are forbidden through the straights...which is why the Soviet Union titles it's single carrier "Heavy Aircraft-Carrying Cruiser"...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:13 | 4498647 Raymond K Hessel
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What ever happened to those Iranian Naval ships steaming towards America?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:21 | 4498663 Moe Hamhead
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One of them broke an oar. So they're just going in circles in the middle of the south Atlantic.


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:34 | 4498686 Urban Redneck
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Actually Turkey cannot let the CVN-77 cross.

The legal issue is that they would have to cut CVN-77 into four pieces with a big-ass blowtorch and float them through individually and unescorted, to avoid violating a very explicit treaty between a NATO member (Turkey) and Russia. (There is an implicit assumption in here that no NATO nation is going to formally DECLARE WAR on Russia just to float a boat through a body of water)

There is well over a century of back story going through 2 World Wars to the Crimean War and Russo-Turkish Wars, and which has even impacted the design of Russian surface ships in the Black Sea Fleet.


The US might as well go MAD, because it would offer Russia the opportunity to sink a large chunk of the US Navy both conventionally and legally before resorting to MAD, and there is no upside for the US to doing so, when they can easily fly planes out of Poland or Germany.

If Turkey were to let American ships past the Dardanelles, the Russians would have many hours to decide whether they want to turn the Bosporus Straits into the Isthmus of Bosporus in matter of mere minutes by blowing the two suspension bridges across the Bosporus (or more accurately the cable anchoring on either side), which would seriously destabilize Turkey and embolden its own separatist movement and give NATO a 2-front headache... Or they could attack the carrier group enroute, where the issue isn't the "bathub" shape- so much as the two narrow "drain pipes" where US ships are absolutely unmaneuverable. And if the Russians were to sink the lead and tail ships of convoy, the rest of the fleet goes nowhere.

If Obozo really is that certifiably insane, then US military would do better, and better serve the American people by launching a coup in the United States.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 19:10 | 4498829 BraveSirRobin
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This is true. According to  Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits, Turkey has control over the Bosporus Straits and the Dardanelles and regulates the transit of naval warships. 

Under the convention, non-Black Sea state warships, such as US naval vessels, must be under 15,000 tons to transit into or out of the Black Sea. No more than nine non-Black Sea state warships, with a total aggregate tonnage of no more than 30,000 tons, may pass through the straits or be in the Black Sea at any one time, In addition, non-Balck sea warships are permitted to stay in the Black Sea for no longer than 21 days.

Your analysis is spot on. The main reason the US will not directly aid the Ukraine against Russia, even if it desired to do so, is that their is no viable logistical pipe line to support such an endeavor without the cooperation of a lot of other countries that probably do not want to get sucked into a war.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 22:59 | 4499772 Freddie
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Anyone thing the USN may try to get a sub into the Black Sea?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 01:11 | 4500277 Urban Redneck
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That would be a neat (and dangerous) trick - only 60' of water depth in DOWNTOWN Istanbul to hide a submarine about 60' tall without scraping (ala USS Taylor), and without being hit by a ship above, and without anyone seeing the big fish in the river (or its wake)... where probably several waterfront real-estate leases are being financed by Moscow and outfitted with some rather sensitive measuring, recording and transmitting equipment. (If they straddled sea lanes the options are slightly better, but only on paper and before factoring in twice as many ships overhead.)

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:01 | 4513457 Overfed
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Yup. Way too shallow in a couple of places for a submerged sub to go through unseen, or even at all.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 19:38 | 4498961 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The US might as well go MAD, because it would offer Russia the opportunity to sink a large chunk of the US Navy both conventionally and legally before resorting to MAD, and there is no upside for the US to doing so, when they can easily fly planes out of Poland or Germany.

And that is why Obama and three State Department Stooges will try to do just that most likely after making threats like a dictator who thinks he can get his way anytime he wants by being a bully.

He is not insane, his incompetence is on purpose with malevolent intent.


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 20:34 | 4499162 rbg81
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Ukraine would represent a quick way to slash US forces and he wouldn't even have to get Congressional approval.  Imagine all the kudos Obama would get from his liberal buddies if actually lost a war to Russia.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 20:32 | 4499154 rbg81
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I dunno.  Obozo is pretty stupid.  Lord help us if Putin double-dares him.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:36 | 4498330 johnQpublic
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keep track of an aircraft carrier on facebook?

you must be joking

must be

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:59 | 4498406 Professorlocknload
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WWIII will likely have it's own facebook page too. Just that one needs to be quick on the like button before it vaporizes.


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:37 | 4498336 FredFlintstone
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"Im new here"... Welcome to planet Earth :)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:53 | 4498380 Abi Normal
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bwahhahahahaha, welcome to fight club.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:01 | 4498606 AGAU
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I love your courage, took me about a year of reading before I could comment.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:15 | 4498216 DoChenRollingBearing
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I should have been more clear.  Only two US carriers are deployed, ie, not in port.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:32 | 4498307 knukles
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Either way the seamen (uh huh) are busy 7 of 8 hours each day while "on" duty defending the Homeland (that's what "they" call it, not me.... kinda Germanic creepy) engaged in diversity, love, inclusiveness and gender neutral LBLGT, racial, ethnic and religious tolerance (excluding Christians who are to be vilified and keelhauled) meeting on the fantail led by representatives of the Department of Everybody's Welfare, Social Justice and That Kinda Shit.
Then again, I could imagine some dim-ficking-wit demanding a show of force in the Bosporus where running aground might be a real issue, just because they could then send a picture of the Bosschildking in a pair of starched and pressed Hannah Montana work pants complimented by a Hello Kitty turtleneck cotton sleeveless tee-shirt while squatting upon the Resolute desk in the Offal Orifice.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:33 | 4498314 thamnosma
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Why are you talking about reality?  It's depressing.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:37 | 4498334 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ knukles

I need to learn how to use my imagination better.

+ a gazillion, LOL....

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:55 | 4498387 Abi Normal
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Bless you, +1000

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:07 | 4498436 williambanzai7
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Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:35 | 4498516 saints51
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Got a question. On the deck is it pallets of dollars,cocaine,heroin, or all of the above?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:59 | 4498598 Abi Normal
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Pallets of worthless paper, bonds, stocks, mbs, derivatives and the like, answer the question for ya?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:09 | 4498636 saints51
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haha... probably shredding evidence.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 03:32 | 4500554 PT
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Only one helicopter???



Maybe the rest have already started dropping their "precious" cargo.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:02 | 4498607 Agstacker
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I say all of the above.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:11 | 4498646 Onthebeach
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"I can assure everyone that the Crimean situation is 'Contained'"

Captain Ben Bernanke

USS Keynes

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:24 | 4498267 max2205
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Like the gobermint would tell everyone where shit is.....come on people

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:00 | 4498411 Abi Normal
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It's all about transparecny, for our strategic interests being exposed, is in a sense is ironic, as it Seems like Obozo is the most non-tranparent President in US history?!  It has been going on for a long time though, however, one can bet we have assets nobody knows about in the general area already!  Now, to get the airpower in place, and we have the New Crimean wonderful!!  

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:15 | 4498462 KickIce
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When you're not afraid of anyone you broadcast it. otherwise known as intimidation.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:25 | 4498276 Conchy Joe
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Holy crap - do you think that there are 4 sunburns as well?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:35 | 4498320 EnglishMajor
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There are 4 Pacific Carriers available too.


                 Who's going to watch Japan?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:41 | 4498720 earleflorida
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the pentagon calls them, 'lily pads'?  basically they're useless when up against a russisn 'black hole' anti- anything that floats or flys submarine,...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:09 | 4498198 thamnosma
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The Obama progressives are decimating our defense.  

We certainly don't need or want any more neo-con wars, we also want to continue to enjoy our domestic security.  That is, a strong military that is wisely and sparingly used, and that for defense from actual attack.  Pretty much how Ron Paul has expressed it.  

The progressives aren't about maintaining our security.  In this particular Ukrainian situation, it does mean we won't go to war, so at least that's a positive.  

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:44 | 4498351 macholatte
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If getting re-elected means spending billions on another war and killing lots of sheeple, well, you know, you gotta break some eggs if you wanna make an omlette.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:07 | 4498438 Keyser
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Except the sheeple are onto this tactic and are pushing back. i.e. Syria... 


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:06 | 4498432 greatbeard
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>> are decimating our defense.

The MIC is decimating our country.  What's left to defend?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:16 | 4498231 wallstreetapost...
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"The Ukraine is not our fight.  We should just stay the hell out."  Thats the type of shit that Americans believed before WWII, then look at what happened.  Clean it up now or clean it up later when shit really stinks.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:22 | 4498258 Dull Care
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Yet another American conditioned to view everyone as a potential fuehrer due to our public indoctrination system and media while refusing to acknowledge that American involvement in WWI led to Nazism in Germany, Bolshevism in the Russian Empire and eventually WWII.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:54 | 4498578 Abi Normal
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I call BS on Dull...we did not stay after WWI, we told Germany to pay reparations (ahem - for a war they started; which bankrupted them, and caused massive inflation, poverty, etc. This lead to National Socialism (NAZI's), the US was not a cause, unless you feel the reparations were "unfair"? 

As to Russia, that BS revolution happened in 1917 during WWI and would have happened anyway, communist forces were in motion long before get an education before you expose your ignorance again!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:43 | 4498730 Urban Redneck
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Instead of "staying" the US created the BIS to stay for it. Perhaps "staying" would have done the world a favor and prevented a second (and third) World War(s). Since the US didn't stay, I would really prefer they now just stay out, there are no do-overs (except in Obozo and Billary's reset-button-oriented minds).

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:50 | 4498770 Calmyourself
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The reparations were excessive and Wilson was part of that process. He made a number of speeches extolling the treaty and its terms.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 00:49 | 4500250 Oh regional Indian
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Your bulb is seriously dim abi, as is your knowledge of history.

Research who funded the bolsheviks, esp. for germany and ww1, the newly minted fed ownders needed a war to bankrupt the US and then the world. They got halfway there. 1933, most nations in the world declared bankruptcy.

ww2 was the clean up act. League of nations to united nations, all the global control apparatus etc. on and on.

wake up.



Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:27 | 4498285 indygo55
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"Clean it up now or clean it up later when shit really stinks."

Clean what up? The loose cannon USA/EU supported Neo-Nazis that are out of control and running amok in Kiev?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:32 | 4498310 donsluck
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Obviously the "shit" wallstreet.... is referring to is, um, wait, um...never mind.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:55 | 4498392 Carl Popper
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Dumbfuck let it stink forever. They are not going to attack us.

Government troll? I used to think that was being paranoid until it was proven by Snowden and Greenwald.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:23 | 4498483 TheReplacement
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Just like the Japanese would never attack us? 

I'm not saying we should start shooting but a good show of force and backbone can be quite a tonic for aggressive behavior.  There is no reason for Russia to have troops on the ground.  There have been no significant Nazi like events in Ukraine that I have seen posted on ZH or elsewhere.  Let the Ukrainians work it out.  Anyone not willing to do that is the bully.

Of course, it would be nice if the Eurotrash would take responsibility for their continent and demand everyone settle down but everyone knows they wouldn't stand a chance against Russia.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:18 | 4498659 Spastica Rex
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Who’s got the tonic for the "aggressive behaviour" of the US? Or are engineered, financed coups not aggression?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:03 | 4498420 Eisenhorn
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Who said the GWB is headed to Ukraine?  There is another stop along the way through the's called Syria.  Fake with the left, haymaker with the right.  Can Russia project force on two fronts? It's about to get very interesting.....and by interesting I mean F THE PETRO-DOLLAR WAR MONGERING CARTELS.


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:24 | 4498489 CultiVader
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Go infect some other blog fucking govt troll.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:40 | 4498540 saints51
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I remember when I was a virgin on ZH.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:17 | 4498655 german Wunderkind
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its just not the fight of the US... the east ukraine is russian territory.

and the west is polish.  poland mighty grow some balls and take the other half. russia will not go to war with europe over the west ukraine, like europe isnt going to war against russia over the eastern ukraine.

no european war ever won anthing behind kiev...its ust not possible.

the sweds lost in poltava, the nazis in stalingrad and the french lost to bad weather(but not to a mild winter like obama)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:27 | 4498286 Kirk2NCC1701
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Correct:  Ukraine is not our fight.  Nor is "the Ukraine".  ;-)

We do say "the USA", "the UK" (acronyms), but we don't say: the Canada, the France, the Germany, the Italy, the Russia, the Japan, the China, the... you get the picture.  :-)

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:29 | 4498343 DoChenRollingBearing
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I have seen it referred to as "The Ukraine".  But, that is not how the game of "Risk" calls it, so the answer is still up in the air for me.

Peru in English is just "Peru".  But, in Spanish, it is "El Peru" ("Le Perou" in French).

Maybe I'll go look up "Ukraine" at wiki, the cheap & dirty source.



"Bearing to Kirk, Bearing to Kirk:

You're right boss, wikipedia sez so."

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:30 | 4498689 Moe Hamhead
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Gosh, now I'm in homeschool.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:33 | 4498315 Renewable Life
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More bluster from the WH!!! Bammer didn't get all dressed up for that photo op for nothing yesterday!!! We need to rattle some sabers too!! Send some ships scurrying around, that will do!!

We're currently booged down 100,000 men and 500,000 have served and 5 trillion in debt in that shithole sandbox in the ME and accomplished nothing!!!!!!

While Putin is already on the ground in Ukraine and being cheered by the Ukrainians military and population!!!

Any bets on how fast those ships sail by????

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:06 | 4498430 Abi Normal
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My bet is the ships will either loiter or sail on by, and sail on by again...could be nothing, or could be a false flag getting ready to happen, history has a way of telling us things...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:08 | 4498629 Nikao7
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"We're currently booged down 100,000 men and 500,000 have served and 5 trillion in debt in that shithole sandbox in the ME and accomplished nothing!!!!!!"


Wrong!!!  The MIC/Halliburton has made a fortune.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:18 | 4498468 markettime
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Well you know, just in case the US needs to nuke someone. As long as they do it after market hours who cares, just don't mess with the Stalingrad and Poorsky. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10 | 4498203 Rukeysers Ghost
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I'm guessing that Putin asked Obummer to borrow some of our equipment for his invasion and he obliged by sending the ship.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:19 | 4498244 wallstreetapost...
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Dont forget that Russia has all those chemical weapons from Syria....  What a gig.. they sell them to Syria, then Syria uses them on its people, the world gets pissed, Russia get the chemical weaopns back for free, now they get to use them on the Ukranian people.  All I have to say is "fuck you BHO and your pussy ass redlines".  

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:25 | 4498274 Lost Word
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Or the US allies rebel forces in Syria used the chem weapons as a false flag attack to blame Syrian government.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:30 | 4498300 indygo55
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"then Syria uses them on its people"

Huh? I though it was proven that it was the US/Saudi/Qatar supported Al Qeida that used the gas as a false flag to get the US/UK to attack Assad. What happened to that explaination? The weapons didn't have the range so the only ones to fire them were the Al Qeida,

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:50 | 4498771 Urban Redneck
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He must think UN weapons inspectors are engaged in a conspiracy against the United States and there are huge stockpiles of WMD and mobile weapons still waiting to discovered by US troops in Iraq.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:34 | 4498317 FredFlintstone
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I thought it was US chemical agents served up by US/SA/Israeli backed insurgents?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:35 | 4498321 TheFourthStooge-ing
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wallstreetdumbasapost said:

Dont forget that Russia has all those chemical weapons from Syria....  What a gig.. they sell them to Syria, then Syria uses them on its people, the world gets pissed, Russia get the chemical weaopns back for free, now they get to use them on the Ukranian people.

Your trolling is of substandard quality. You need to make your imaginary world at least plausible, not just something out of a comic book. As it stands, your propaganda isn't worth much.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:38 | 4498338 denverdolomte
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Where the hell do you get your information from? 

Syria supposidly received chemical weapons from Iraq / Hussien 

Russia stopped the US from bombing for peace, and the chemical weapons not in control of the rebels were sent to the mediteranian area for disposal....Cyprus I believe. 


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:12 | 4498449 Abi Normal
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Just sayin' much of Assad's stockpile has he haned over to-date? 4% is a figure I read somewhere...anyone have an idea?  If so, then the plan is a failure IMHO...and all parties should be held accountable?

Russia doesn't get to invade Ukraine, as much as we get to invade Mexico, it is that simple.  BHO and Co have given Pukin' a pass, pure and simple!  He will end up with all of it, with some blood on his hands...all of them really.

Pond scum! Aboslute Power left unchecked is tyranny...Sic Semper Tyrannis!

Molon Labe, BITCHEZ!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:27 | 4498494 CultiVader
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Invade Mexico? Why the fuck would we do that anyways? Talk about swelling the FSA ranks.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:34 | 4498696 bigrooster
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What government agency do you work for?  The fucking .gov trolls are out in full force this weekend.  You dumb fucks cannot fool us fools here on ZH!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10 | 4498205 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Going thru Gibraltar,doesnt promise going thru Bosforus.

Absolutely correct. Also, from TFA:

It is not known if CVN-77 will continue to its scheduled final waypoint, the Arabian Gulf, or make a detour into the Black Sea.

No such place as the Arabian Gulf, except in the imagination of the deranged Saudi ruling class and their neocon collaborators. There is a Persian Gulf and an Arabian Sea.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:23 | 4498263 Bokkenrijder
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A boat has it's own Fakebook page?!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:48 | 4498365 TPTB_r_TBTF
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They all have to share one twitter account:

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:08 | 4498441 cossack55
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Maybe they use George H. W. Bush's FB page.  BTW, when did the US start naming ships after stupid shit neo-con fuckheads that are still breathing? WTF?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:26 | 4498491 Ignorance is bliss
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You mean like the forestall, The Ronald Reagan, and the Nimitz? Since forever.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:27 | 4498284 Belrev
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Blackwater agents begin arriving to Ukraine:: bloggers report

Quote: Shadow paws over Ukraine.

March 2nd, 19:35

According to our Ukrainian friends, this night in the cities of Borispol and Juliani airports charter flights began arriving carrying strong young men in ordinary civilian clothes - but each with several bulky field bags . In the U.S. Army which usually carry sets of equipment.

Strange way all these people are employed by private military company "Greystone Limited" - daughter of the famous "Xe Services LLC" - former "Blackwater USA". Just arrived already up to 300 people.

Objectives of these strong - and well-trained guys - can be very different from the protection of the new government from hundreds of self-defense units on "Euromaidan" to covert ops in cities in the East and South-East of Ukraine. The only question is how many of them eventually show up in Kiev - and who pays for this spectacular ballet is which is not cheap

Certainly not the upstart "Ukrainian" government, I guess.

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Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:36 | 4498328 thamnosma
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Who would foot the bill?  Other than George Soros?  Well, there's always the hundreds of millions in cash from Afghan opium sales.  Plenty of money sloshing around and, if not, then just print it.

Not surprised that such rumors are now floating around.  Sometimes rumors are true.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:53 | 4498381 Chuck Knoblauch
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300 Spartans? Is this Sparta? LOL!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:36 | 4498521 Freddie
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I hope the Russians Spec Ops find these contractors.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 19:05 | 4498831 DoChenRollingBearing
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If so, I hope someone takes pictures or videos...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:01 | 4498159 Martin Silenus
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The USS George Bush?  Really?  Why not just call it the USS Idiot.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:04 | 4498173 Chuck Knoblauch
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Does it know which side to fight for?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:11 | 4498209 TeamDepends
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Sink me once, shame on me, wait...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:12 | 4498214 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Does it know which side to fight for?

It fights for the GSA (Goldman Sachs of America).

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:40 | 4498341 BrigstockBoy
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It fights for know, the major league assholes.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 22:00 | 4499537 Hephaestus
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Hmmm yes I can see it now just like NASCAR huge huge adverts on the sides. Think of the publicity! - Haliburton Goldman JP Morgan Greysone(OLD BlackWater) all the supporters of Free-doom in the US bringing Democracy around the world. Would a big picture of Blankfein with the words "Doing gods Work" be too much?  I think not if Kerry can get away with accusing the Russians of invasion. Like many others I was %^$&*#@ stunned. How does this man not suffocate on the bullshit coming out of his mouth?!?!


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 22:19 | 4499619 Hephaestus
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Holy shit if that carrier sinks in the Black Sea Obummer gets a AAA excuse to gather the regular crew and ATTACK! I hope whoever is in charge is taking precautions against..


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10 | 4498204 H H Henry P P P...
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instead of bullets and missiles, it fires shoes at the enemies.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:13 | 4498457 ebworthen
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You think at his next speech Obama will pound his shoe on the podium like Kruschev did?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:15 | 4498224 greatbeard
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>> USS Idiot.

I think the USS Blithering Idiot has a more dignified ring to it, more in tune to the honor generally bestowed on past Presidents.



Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:16 | 4498232 Groundhog Day
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I can't stand any politician and thought like you until the idiot raised 500,000,000.00 for his library. Isn't as stupid as he sounds

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:36 | 4498327 donsluck
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Groundhog, there is a difference between smart and connected, eh?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:38 | 4498337 MeMongo
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Probably just a covert tax shelter for his rich prick friends and family. Not nearly smart simply "connected"!

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:22 | 4498257 DavidC
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It's the George H.W. Bush, not George W. Bush.

One might argue the point but G.W. is definitely the idiot of the two.


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:29 | 4498298 Lost Word
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Creepy "thousand points of light" NWO CIA GHW Bush.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:54 | 4498373 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, old man Bush is a key player in the NWO -- and on the Council of 13.

He was also the CIA Director, who denied Pres. Carter info on America's secret files on Aliens.  "Sorry, Mr. President, it's on a Need-To-Know basis, and this does not extend to curiosity".  Carter should've fired his ass on the spot. 

The last Democratic President prior to Obama, to have info on the Alien files was JFK, who intended to share the info with the Russians as recently as Nov.11, 1963 (11 days prior to Nov.22), to come up with a Common Front against the Aliens.  IOW, Clinton did not get info.  Or so he claims.  Eventually Carter was briefed, in the summer of 1977.  He is said to have had his hands on his face, and actually sobbed.  The latter part if very telling what it means to his fundamental Beliefs (as a Christian).  For fake-Christians like Clinton and Obama, this is not an issue. 

Actually, this is what Kirk has been saying and warning you for ages:  You are NOT alone.  And it's a fact throughout the Galaxy, that starship captains and crew do occasionally indulge in mating with "the natives".  Case in point:  Human history, mythology and religion is full of claims of women having had sex with Aliens (gods) and created offspring who claim Celestial heritage -- including Christianity.  In many cases, genetic hybrid programs are in place, to allow for colonization of planets that are otherwise too hostile in biological compatibility. 

Moral:  Aliens not only play 'God', in some cases they are 'God'.  And for those people & cultures/tribes who love being the Middlemen for a god/God, it's the ultimate in lifestyle and job security when you're ... "Doing God's work".  Red pill or blue pill?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:21 | 4498476 Skateboarder
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Are you saying Alienz have penii?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:47 | 4498568 saints51
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I think they fuck through telepathy.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:27 | 4498493 NemoDeNovo
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Oh and its even depper then that..........For those that understand what this place really is and why 'we' choose to come here the game is not so bad.  This place is just temporary, and there NEVER will be "Peace" here, that would defeat the purpose of this rock.  So sit back and enjoy the show because in the end that is all we can really do is navigate the geame here and try not to get caught in the collateral damage before we either move on or repeat depending upon how much you figure out and how well you perform here............

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:38 | 4498529 Skateboarder
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The Christians would be glad to tell you that you're wrong, but they're only 2000 years old in story that never ends. Let me share one of Rock's greatest songs, Iron Maiden's Infinite Dreams.

"There's got to be just more to it than this
Or tell me why do we exist?
I'd like to think that when I die
I'd get a chance, another time
And to return and live again
Reincarnate, play the game
Again and again and again and again"

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 18:27 | 4498684 cheetahbaby
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Skate: Google-- James Joyce, the constellation Cassiopeai, and incalculable eons for more on this concept. Or, "Eternal Recurrence of the Same".....

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:43 | 4498552 Freddie
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The Bushes, Clintons and Obama all work for the NWO and El Chai (see eye A) Duh.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:58 | 4498597 saints51
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Where and the hell do you find this info? I am curious as I think most is bullshit. We can prove the system we have is a scam but Aliens????? I don't know about that one bro.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 03:09 | 4500521 Marlon Brando
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The whole Ancient Alien thing is propaganda so they can dust off Kissingers playbook, '' Ven ze alien ships are circling ve vill see how fast they welcome UN troops '' I paraphrase.  If its on television its approved by the Cuntrollers. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 03:09 | 4500522 Marlon Brando
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The whole Ancient Alien thing is propaganda so they can dust off Kissingers playbook, '' Ven ze alien ships are circling ve vill see how fast they welcome UN troops '' I paraphrase.  If its on television its approved by the Cuntrollers. 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:05 | 4498428 booboo
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You mean USS Idiot 39, you do reailze it was named after the former George right? No. Ok, so the carrier was named after George Sr or Idiot 39, Idiot, 40 The USS Bill Clinton is a Missle Frigate full of seaman that has had issues with it's radar and sunk when it rammed a cruise ship full of interns on it's way to the western Carrib. The Idiot 41, or the USS Shrub was last seen off the coast of South America and it is reportedly been in dry dock since it's commision, somethng about the on board super computer keeps overriding the steering controls and continues to blue screen "Mission Accomplished" and refuses to unlock the steering.

The Idiot 42 USS Barry Soetoro is a R&R vessle that has trained sailors made up of former press corp that hurl themselves in front of incoming rounds and torpedo's.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 21:45 | 4499485 vortmax
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39 Carter

40 Reagan

41 HW Bush

42 Clinton

43 GW Bush

44 Obama

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:03 | 4498164 Muppet Pimp
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Not a bad idea, park offshore and warn Putin this had better not get ugly. Score so far: Putin +1 Omidayar -1 US - 0


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:11 | 4498450 RafterManFMJ
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One carrier. Named after a moron.

Within range of every enemy air asset.


Clearly you need to give up axis and allies and go back to stratego.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:03 | 4498165 Neethgie
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Wars don't matter all that matters is 102 usd/jpy

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:04 | 4498167 Winston Churchill
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Barrel meets fish.

Pretty dumb even for Obozo , so its prolly true.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:04 | 4498174 agent default
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And what is the point of going to Ukraine?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:12 | 4498213 thamnosma
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Crimea is a nice vacation spot.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:19 | 4498245 agent default
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You don't suppose they defect to the Russians too do you?


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:26 | 4498282 tenpanhandle
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at least the name fits.  Also, right next to Murderstan and Fraudavia for quick one day excursions while on holiday.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:32 | 4498309 Black Forest
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Crimea is a nice vacation spot.


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:59 | 4498407 knukles
Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:14 | 4498459 cossack55
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Wow.  That second link was a little weird. Tho, she would blend into LA pretty easily.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:55 | 4498589 Skateboarder
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Totally, and she wouldn't even be out of place. I've seen some latinas with six times the makeup.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:05 | 4498176 thamnosma
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Nothing is happening.  If the Putin regime had any fear of the Obama Regime or NATO in this situation it would not have made these moves.   Events played out the same in the Republic of Georgia - Putin essentially ended that by sending in troops and seizing a percentage of the Georgian territory under the pretext of allegiance to one or another of the local provinces.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:06 | 4498179 AlaricBalth
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USS Black Swan approaches the Black Sea. USS Black Swan gets sunk by unknown submarine. MIC stocks open at all time highs.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:32 | 4498311 Lost Word
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Seems some claim that was the plan for the retiring USS Enterprise?

First in the Persian Gulf?

Now in the Black Sea?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:06 | 4498181 Gringo Viejo
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I got the Petro-Dollar Blues,
From my head down to my shoes,
Every Highway,
Let's me slip away,
Slip away from you.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:19 | 4498186 goldhedge
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Putin to Obama: Bring it on like Donkey Kong!


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:28 | 4498290 tenpanhandle
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Obama to Putin: "I thought we had a deal".

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:01 | 4498413 knukles
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Putin:  "We do.  I do what I want, you go jerk off in the hall."

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:31 | 4498503 NemoDeNovo
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Where is Reggie? 

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:08 | 4498187 Zwelgje
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"It is not known if CVN-77 will continue to its scheduled final waypoint, the Arabian Gulf, or make a detour into the Black Sea."

You surely meant Persian Gulf?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:14 | 4498222 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You surely meant Persian Gulf?

Yes, I believe that's the translation from Stratfor-speak.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 20:19 | 4498424 knukles
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The Saudis, Qataris, Emirates, etc., do formally call it the Arabian Sea or Gulf.  The no likie their neighbors across the waters, the Persians.
Same as on their maps, there is no Israel, they still show Palestine.

All perceptions, you know.

And BTW, when you fly into KSA, you get a white embarkation card to fill in.  Do so in Green or Black ink.
Not Blue

Otherwise, you'll get yelled at and the passport thrown back in your face, told to get back into the end of the fucking line, creepy greasy guys staring at you from the "Official" areas, hassled, etc.

Because Blue and White are the Colors of the Israeli Flag


Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:08 | 4498188 Jayda1850
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I clicked on the facebook link and instantly regretted it. Concrete proof that our military has accepted the theme that everyone is special and deserves an award. Putin must be laughing his ass off thinking about these "avengers of the day".

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:08 | 4498190 Cognitive Dissonance
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Red October March?

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:08 | 4498195 Paracelsus
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But gold and silver hardly move.The world wonders.....

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:15 | 4498227 thamnosma
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Definitely time to sell that worthless bullion and stock up on bitcoin.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:43 | 4498319 agent default
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Hey! Fonestar is our approved Bitcoin trader and investment adviser around here. 

Go do something else.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 17:08 | 4498439 knukles
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fonestar will be fine when the moon sets, later ...

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:09 | 4498200 Tracerfan
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A great carrier, but in the Black Sea probably a sitting duck.  Not a good idea to go there.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:10 | 4498206 IridiumRebel
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Awesome....just awesome. Looks like I gotta go hit up the Sam's Club. These assholes are going to kill us all.

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:11 | 4498211 Flying Wombat
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Perspective the US media isn't reporting: 

Obama Draws Red Lines As World Lurches Toward War

Sun, 03/02/2014 - 16:21 | 4498252 thamnosma
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The Obama red line in Syria meant nothing, why is this different.  Yes, I checked out the link but think it's a bit over the top given what we know now.   BTW, articles such as that continue to make the point of all these Russian citizens in the Ukraine.  Actually, aren't they now legally Ukrainians of Russian ethnic origin?  Aren't these the descendents of Russians moved into Ukraine by Stalin when he starved and murdered millions there?   Do all these residents of Russian descent have dual citizenship? 


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