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Obama's Latest Tactic: "Isolate Russia"

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After once again clearly delineating that Russian "costs" are set to surge, and hopefully he means more than just the drop in the Micex and its artificial, paper wealth effect which Putin couldn't care less about as long as crude is soaring...

  • OBAMA SAYS INCIDENT WITH UKRAINE WILL BE ‘COSTLY’ FOR RUSSIA

... the US president has laid out his latest tactic:

  • OBAMA SAYS HE'S CONSIDERING ECONOMIC STEPS TO ISOLATE RUSSIA

Does he also mean to isolate Russian gas from entering Germany, which just happens to be reliant on Russian imports for a third of its natgas needs? He goes on.

  • OBAMA SAYS RUSSIA ON `WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY' IN UKRAINE

Which of course is written by the winners. And the punchline:

  • OBAMA URGES CONGRESS TO PROVIDE PACKAGE OF ASSISTANCE QUICKLY TO UKRAINIAN PEOPLE; SAYS SHOULD NOT BE PARTISAN ISSUE ON CAPITOL HILL

Maybe time to send Obamacare to Kiev: so many young, strapping participants just waiting to sign up? Or maybe it just time to raise minimum wages in the Ukraine while giving the local population the safety of mind that comes with investing in the "no risk, guaranteed return" MyRA.

 

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Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:48 | 4502938 Arius
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how about ring fence them ... that is really leading from beyond ...

 

free Ukraine!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:49 | 4502951 Occident Mortal
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Obamas new strategy...

Underline Russian exceptionalism.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502966 RevRex
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Obama's only strategy....

 

Call the Republicans some names, and then go fondle Reggie Love's balls.....It's what he does every time!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:54 | 4502999 Occident Mortal
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All we have had from the US executive so far...

1). Continue making (unspecified) threats and talk up (unspecified) consequences.

Until he says something specific he isn't doing shit.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:59 | 4503042 Vampyroteuthis ...
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..... he isn't doing shit.

Obummer is doing one thing, that is shitting his pants.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:02 | 4503061 onewayticket2
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he could Cyprus their US based bank accounts. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:04 | 4503072 walküre
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for starters

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:10 | 4503106 FuzzyDunlop21
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You know how in Kurt Kobain's suicide note he wrote about being an emasculated complainer? He was talking about Obama.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:12 | 4503119 FL_Conservative
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He could always issue an Executive Order commanding Russia to pull back. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:17 | 4503156 James_Cole
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People on here are so fucking dense, it's the Americans that are playing chess. I'm no fan of the CIA buggers messing with every country on Earth, but they're smart that's for sure. 

Look at this and understand it:

http://topforeignstocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Proven-Oil-Reserv...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:24 | 4503205 knukles
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So, since talk (whining) don't work, we'll threaten them with not attending their dinner party.
Fuck yeah.

             Full Speed Froward!

It really must be said. 
Most folks I know who are looking at this with some sense of "favor" (which is the wrong word, but I cannot isolate a better one at this time) are not really pro Putin, as the man is the antithesis relative to our Western Libertarian ideals, but rather an outlet held high as prima facia evidence of the failure of the Kumbayah state

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:32 | 4503246 SWRichmond
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Is this going to be the issue where the American MIC finally pushes the EU and NATO so hard that EU finally tells us to fuck off?

Dear Germany: We want to have a war in your backyard with the guy who sells you 60% of your energy.

P.S. you can't have your gold back.

OK?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:48 | 4503299 Stuart
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Obama sounds as stupid as Justin Trudeau.  I wish both would just shut up.  

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:58 | 4503661 TahoeBilly2012
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i HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ISOLATE OBAMA , HIS FOLLOWERS, BUSH AND HIS FOLLOWERS FOR YEARS.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:31 | 4503798 Manthong
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Does that mean Putin gets a segregated account?

Hey America, the joke is on you and the clown you have left in charge isn’t even Constitutionally legit.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:44 | 4503839 Manthong
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Say, red fool..

What part about born subject of the British Crown do you and the crooks in government not understand?

Daddy don't be no 'merican.. and British law conveys citizenship to children of colonial subjects,,

but that is too inconvenient a truth for the pitiful excuse we have for a government today. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:29 | 4503802 negative rates
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Wonderful, since we proved that the administration is on the wrong side of nature here, why not choose the opposite side and run with it?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:57 | 4503353 irishlink
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Will the package be bigger than the 100 Million insultset aside for the farmers who are suffering from the drought .tired of sending tax dollars to these despots who steal fortunes from their own people . How the Ukrainian preside t could make an address to the peoe after what was discovered in his home beggars belief!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:32 | 4503542 Oldwood
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We know nothing but what we have been told. Simply look at how many world leaders who we formally supported that are now deposed, gone, dead or in jail. None of them were people we would likely admire, but they put their trust in our government. Now who stands in their place? No one? If we can't control them, we eliminate them, dissolve their government and then rule from behind...a curtain. They support and enable criminals and tyrants using the power of the American public's wealth, and when those criminals fail to perform to their prescribed tasks, they are eliminated. They have captured the wealth of the richest nation in the world and are using it to corrupt and destroy the world.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:40 | 4503872 zaphod
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The United States was the first Venture Capital experiment in history. It took off and grew and grew and grew to the point that the system has taken over and become more than any of the participants involved. Obama is not in charge the same way Boehner is not in charge or anyone else. They're all just players in a larger machine that has taken over and there is no stopping it. We are ants being controlled by our own invention. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:01 | 4503384 irishlink
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Will the package be bigger than the 100 Million insult set aside for the farmers who are suffering from the drought .tired of sending tax dollars to these despots who steal fortunes from their own people . How the Ukrainian presidentt could make an address to the people after what was discovered in his home beggars belief!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:49 | 4503942 Wile-E-Coyote
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30% but that is enough.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:41 | 4503279 RSloane
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This is an instant replay of Obama vs Syria. Mix oil, pipelines, and the US and you get crippling sanctions. Most of the readers here remember the horrible plans Obama had for Syria, and now his horrible plans for Russia. States that do not have oil nor any resources to speak of are incredibly lucky.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:31 | 4503824 john39
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speaking of syria, notice how the MSM continue to report that it was the Assad government that used chemical weapons, despite multiple credible reports pointing out that the evidence pointed to the "rebels"?   sickening really.   they just keep lying and pretend that any fact that gets in their way simply doesn't exist... 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:49 | 4503311 g speed
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I'll take that to mean that Obamaism is in way over his head and Putin is making that clear to all---or Putin's the kid that yells "he aint got no clothes" 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:42 | 4503888 ImReady
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Maybe Obama should consult with his most experienced military advisors. Oh, wait, he fucking fired all of them!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:26 | 4503214 Tao 4 the Show
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Trouble is, both sides may think they are playing chess, but the reality is they are playing an N-Dimensional game. Unintended consequences are almost assured.

If an attempt is made to isolate Russia, it may just stimulate or accelerate BRIC establishment of new financial systems.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:32 | 4503237 James_Cole
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Trouble is, both sides may think they are playing chess, but the reality is they are playing an N-Dimensional game. Unintended consequences are almost assured.

As long as they can create enough chaos it doesn't matter. They just opened up Meixcos oil, Venezuela seems very possible. Keystone XL must be approved. What exactly does Russia have?

And China is supposedly going to turn on their largest trading partners in exchange for Russian energy resources? 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:54 | 4503332 Meat Hammer
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Your thinking is archaic...stuck inside the box whilst a new box is being created.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:54 | 4503334 RSloane
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Exactly the same can be said for the EU. Are they really going to fuck with their largest trading partner and risk rising oil prices in exchange for supporting Obama?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:13 | 4503453 James_Cole
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Are they really going to fuck with their largest trading partner

http://eeas.europa.eu/us/economic_en.htm

The economic relationship between the EU and the US is by far the largest between any two trading blocs in history.

The EU and the US are each other’s most important source for foreign direct investment 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 01:14 | 4505330 StychoKiller
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So, you're saying that the Ukrainian farmers can't count on the EU to ride to their rescue?  Whocouldanode?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 20:40 | 4504397 Ms No
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Why is everyone down arrowing James-Cole's PROVEN oil reseves chart and comment.  Seems a damn valid point to me.  Just a few coups away from control of the worlds oil reserves.... Venezuela is pending and if the IMF loans Ukraine dough and they default cant they take their pipeline infrastructure?  The Bakken and Canadian tar sands are transitory... the whole picture is in that chart possibly.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:21 | 4503182 FEDbuster
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Just wondering when Mexican troops will cross the boarder to "protect the Mexican citizens" living in the United States?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:27 | 4503221 bsdetector
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No US money should go to Ukraine!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:19 | 4503753 eclectic syncretist
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But that's how the game works! Read the Creature from Jeckyll island.

Here it is in a nutshell:

The game starts with a mammoth loan (created out of nothing through the magic of fractional reserves) from (Citicorp, Chase Manhattan, Bank of America, etc.) to a Third World country with scant means of servicing the debt much less ever repaying the principle. Are these top bankers stupid?

Hardly; Griffin explains that this is the kind of loan these bankers love, since they make their money from interest on the loan, not on repayment of the loan. They prefer the loan never to be repaid.

They know they can’t lose because the Federal Reserve guarantees that massive loans that go into default will not be allowed to seriously affect the issuing bank (too big to fail) because this would “disrupt the entire economy."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_fed04.htm

The banksters will create and support the war, because their god is mammon.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:21 | 4503769 williambanzai7
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A U-kraine in the ass...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 19:02 | 4503236 GoinFawr
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@Fedbuster:

The Mexicans are waiting on a shipping container of their flags to arrive from China.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:00 | 4503668 TahoeBilly2012
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Well if California threw out a Mexican heritage President and Neo Nazi's started running the place banning Spanish...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:01 | 4503676 TheMeatTrapper
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Mexican troops have repeatedly crossed our border in support of drug traffickers. We didn't do shit about it, did we?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:30 | 4503820 williambanzai7
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Mon, 03/03/2014 - 19:21 | 4504090 mt paul
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obamas plan is simple 

 

HOPE, the russians 

CHANGE, their evil ways

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:05 | 4503080 Occident Mortal
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This is why Obama cannot isolate Russia...

http://s22.postimg.org/aclnsv7kx/Oil_Routes.png

5.8 million barrels of crude per day.

Isolate that flow of crude and Europe will take the whole financial system down.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:10 | 4503107 Georgiabelle
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Exactly. Sorry Ukraine, sorry Europe. You're on your own until 2016, at the earliest. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:54 | 4503982 disabledvet
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sorry...exactly WRONG.
This is "Games Without Frontiers" here.
The USA and NATO are not aggressors here...they need not state intent.

This is Kiev Rus...the home of all Russians.
Their "brothers"?

REALLY?

Ummm...THIS IS MOM AND DAD Dimitri.
You're gonna go in "after beating up on the grand kids" and then take out "Mom and Dad"?
You wind up seeing a million people in "Maiden Square"...and I'm just waiting for the word to show up here..."then you'll know what you're up against."

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:22 | 4503185 Anusocracy
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That would be tantamount to putting a bullet through the head of every Washington, Lincoln, Hamilton, Jackson, Grant, and Franklin circulating throughout the world.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:08 | 4503705 Urban Redneck
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Money has become a mental construct that exists only within a digital Matrix that sustains sheeple to feed off.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 19:19 | 4504097 mt paul
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fiat money

is sheep food ...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:15 | 4503137 Meat Hammer
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Go home Barry, you're drunk.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:28 | 4503232 DaddyO
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Couldn't agree more!

Just take a look at this interview and you'll see a POTUS who hasn't even the smallest clue...

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-03-02/obama-to-israel-time-is-running-out

DaddyO

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:48 | 4503284 Meat Hammer
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Thanks for the link, DaddyO. I like the part about Syria taking Obama's red line seriously. Oh, you mean the CIA put the sarin gas back under the tarp after Putin flopped his cock on the table?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:54 | 4503331 DaddyO
Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:59 | 4503375 Meat Hammer
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The symbolism of the salmon, thinking it has almost reached its destination but unwittingly jumping into the Russian bear's mouth, is very fitting. Well done.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:08 | 4503420 DaddyO
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I've watched the ZH'ers posting comments about what a stud Putin is and am kinda shocked that somehow it's been forgotten just who Putin is.

Don't ever forget that the Russian bear will skillfully peel you're scalp back, pop your skull and eat your brains for breakfast.

Just ask any bear attack survivor.

Especially the Georgians...

DaddyO

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:23 | 4503782 Urban Redneck
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Humans demonstrate an irrational proclivity towards naming their fears, as if the act gives them power over the demon. Perhaps the same irrational proclivity holds true for salvation... It's not like mankind has never fought a war over that...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:50 | 4503251 Jlasoon
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Exactly, economically we have no pull, militarily we're weak and spread too thin, and at the end of the day whose willing to pick up the baton and go to war with Russia lol. Listen to all the European kleptocrats talking smack. Illegal this, you can't do that, you're violating this human right, that human right. None of it matters unless you're willing to play chicken with Russia. "Juan McCain, the WH is on line 1".  

I mean does anyone in Washington actually believe anyone is taking them seriously. "Russia is on the wrong side of history", this is coming from the same people who've turned drone hellfire missile targeting into an olympic sport. Iraq? Afghanistan? Syria? Libya? Bosnia? Panama? Grenada? Cuba? Vietnam? should I go on. I mean I think it's pretty conclusive that we've been on the wrong side of history for pretty much every single conflict we've fought in the last half century. This is desperation folks. Take a good look at it, we're witnessing the final moments of this once great nation. We've gone from classical liberalism to supporting a bunch of Oligarch businessmen in Ukraine. Unfortunately for us, we won't be able to buy our way out of this one. If I'm China I start thinking about Taiwan, the Diaoyu Islands, and Japan. As for Russia, just keep picking off the former Soviet states one by one until someone stops you. And if they try, simply cut off the oil supply to Europe.

This ends when Putin wants it to end. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 19:26 | 4504127 mt paul
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who are the holders of Ukraine debt

and how far will they go

" to get paid "

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:55 | 4503014 Anusocracy
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I wonder if Russia would benefit if terrorists attacked the Ghawar oilfields?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:31 | 4503096 ZerOhead
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Hmmm... Shia terrorists... armed with armor piercing RPGs... interesting thought. After all the Saudi Royal Families oil comes mostly from their land.

Or Putin could just choose to make it an awful day for Netanyahu by loaning the Iranians a couple dozen of those ancient nuclear weapons they were decommissioning. ( A very bad idea to be sure but WTF right?)

I just wish Obama and his NeoCon masters would back the fuck off for a bit and let the shit settle down so they can get down to the business of dividing the country so EVERYONE can be free to be plundered by a corrupt government of their own choosing...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 19:01 | 4503856 Urban Redneck
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It's not the ancient nukes that should concern anyone, but if the 127th Motor Rifle Division gets in its trucks and drives just a few hours south and sets up a new Russian forward operating base as a result of Iran joining SCO or CSTO then the world is a very different place.

Although I seem to recall reading about the US doing the same thing in Turkey a number of decades ago, and I think that was eventually worked out peacefully...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:56 | 4503022 El Oregonian
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I believe Barry meant he was sending the central bankers there financial packages from the sheeple slaves here.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:46 | 4503263 LMAOLORI
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What Barry means is he wants his masters of financial destruction in power in the Ukraine.  

LOL - Putin flipped him the middle finger. Russia's been buying gold Putin doesn't give a crap about what Barry's wants. If Barry's playing chess he isn't very good at that game either.

 

Gold, oil rise as Ukraine tensions spur safety bids

 

Stocks fall as Ukraine tensions rise
Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:06 | 4503087 ziggy59
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How come we always have stashed( or waiting to be printed) money for aid but our roads are horrible, tolls are through the roof, which btw have increased incredibly in 10 yrs, and so have municiple taxes?
Bribing the people that stirred the crap into a possible military conflict wont work.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 19:23 | 4504108 ChanceIs
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>>>Obama's only strategy....<<< !?!?!?

Whatever happened to blame Bush?

He could have Harry Reid come out and proclaim that "it's all lies."

Read what Pauld Crag Roberts:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/03/washingtons-arrogance-hubris-...

Gerald Celente

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/3/3_Cel...

and James Howard Kuntsler

http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/lets-you-and-him-fight/

have to say about this.  Boys and girls...this isn't our problem.  In fact there isn't a problem.  I believe that Russia is preempting what would surely be a bloody civil war.  The way to do that is to show up with overwhelming force - not one of John Kerry's little pin pricks.  Remember what Obama said immediately afterward....'the US military doesn't do pin pricks.'  So I guess Putin shouldn't either.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:54 | 4502988 TruthInSunshine
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Maybe 8-Years-A-Drone-Commander-&-NSA Expansion Cheerleader Obama will order Victoria Nuland's neocon-PNAC husband to deploy the black ops "liver eaters" into Ukraine to conduct ethnic Russian civilian "cleansing" missions in a bid to heat up the frying pan.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502989 0b1knob
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Russia generates 70% of its foreign exchange and over 50% of government revenue from energy (oil and gas) exports.   Cutting even part of that off is not a hollow threat.

That seems to have been the plan even before Ukraine.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:00 | 4503046 TheMeatTrapper
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Can't wait to hear Obama try to convince Europe to stop buying gas from Russia so he can clam success in "isolating" Russia. I'm sure Merkel would think this is a great idea. After all, she loves Obama after the whole NSA and 'fuck the EU' thing. 

This administration has fucked this entire thing up so badly its funny. 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:07 | 4503089 ersatzteil
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"Cutting off" Russian energy exports? Won't happen, imagine all the Europeans freezing to death when their gas gets shut off.

Threats like these flew around before during the 2008 Georgia-Ossetia war, with Nicholas Sarkozy running around like a chicken without its head. In the end Europe won't agree to any sort of energy or export sanctions, especially with their economies in such shambles...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:12 | 4503113 0b1knob
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It won't happen over night.   The plan at one time was to build a pipeline thru Syria but that was dropped perhaps for security reasons.   LNG tankers could supply Europe from sources in Kuwait, the US and Canada.   Of course it would take hundreds of LNG tankers.  And who would build them?  oh wait...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/29/us-japan-shippers-plan-idUSBRE9AS05V20131129

 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:24 | 4503198 agent default
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Good luck getting anything through Syria.  US fucked up there too.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:04 | 4503399 angel_of_joy
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You do realize that every LNG tanker is in fact a pressurized bomb waiting for an accident, don't you ? And you want to fill each major European port with that ?

What if "shit happens" and Rotterdam is half wiped out, for example ? And how many tanks do you physically need so satisfy Western Europe alone ?

What about the environment (that progressives seem to be so worried about, when convenient) ?

Next thing, I imagine you'll tell me that fracking holds such promises... which is mostly true, but only if you change a couple of letters.

Here's a test for you: what do you think would happen if Russia starts asking for GOLD as payment for its raw materials ?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:51 | 4503627 agent default
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Is there enough LNG shipping capacity for that?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 01:36 | 4505383 StychoKiller
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Germany will be happy to lend its gold to the EU to pay for things...oh wait...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:03 | 4503066 Anusocracy
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Getting rid of the dollar reserve currency would be far more devastating.

And, of course, terrorist attacks on a few oilfields/pipelines/tankers would be problematic.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:05 | 4503076 Renewable Life
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"Putin is playing chess, Obama is playing marbles" thats what some member of Congress said Sunday!  Do you think Putin didn't take a little time during Sochi to chat with the Chinese about the "big picture" with them?? You don't really think, he did this on a knee jerk reaction do you???

Russia has 150 million people and the Natural resources of 5 America's yet to be explored and extracted, China is on their border and has 1.3 billion mouths to feed and fires to keep burning!  Has there ever been a better partnership then that? All China needs to do, to absolutely destroy this BS economic sanction crap, is announce they aren't partispating in it AND they will be buying and investing trillions over the next 5 years in Russian natural resources and developing closer economic ties with Russia! 

Game fucking over, Obama! 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:10 | 4503108 ziggy59
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Russia And China 'In Agreement' Over Ukraine
Russia is in "operational control" of Crimea as soldiers surround Ukrainian troops and seize a ferry port.5:28pm UK, Monday 03 March 2014

http://news.sky.com/story/1219922/russia-and-china-in-agreement-over-ukr...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:28 | 4503517 Kirk2NCC1701
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Operational Control is all you need if the population actually WANTS you there.

Else you get what the Americans got in Iraq and Afghanistan. When will the morons in DC and Langley ever learn? Useful Tools of Wall St and Big Oil is all they are, in spite of pretenses and delusions to the contrary.

When do we get American Spring? How about some REAL March 'Madness'? Heck, at this point I'd settle for Marching in March.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:26 | 4503217 agent default
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Obama's latest foreign policy strategy:  Build really tight fence around the US and declare the world to be inside.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:05 | 4503408 Meat Hammer
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Earlier today, Limbaugh said that Putin's ploy was to use the Olympics to distract the American people from what's going on in Ukraine. Haha! Project much, Rush, you blathering neo-con?!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:09 | 4503434 chunga
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Every time I hear that fat bastard's voice I'm tempted to gouge my ears out.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:14 | 4503458 Meat Hammer
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Stay on the line so Snerdly can get your address and send you a new engraved iPad with embedded NSA back door...er...uh...what? Damn cochlear NSA implant. Wait...what? FUCK!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:31 | 4503537 Kirk2NCC1701
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I agree with the gouging part, and approve this message.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:06 | 4503085 Theta_Burn
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Not sure i follow

How do they stop Russia selling its energy? Sanctions?

Seems like they have been trying to do that to Iran for yrs. China, India, Japan will pick up any slack in that department.

Looks like they picked the wrong region of the world to fuck with..

 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:14 | 4503132 Anusocracy
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"How do they stop Russia selling its energy?"

Claim that it is Genetically Modified Oil.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:33 | 4503250 Spastica Rex
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It certainly stopped Monsanto.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:08 | 4503421 Meat Hammer
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Tell everyone that Gazprom doesn't hire any LGBT.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:11 | 4503111 walküre
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Transferring so much wealth from Europe to Russia has always been a thorn in their side. Just as much as Americans hate transferring our wealth to the Sauds. Hence the vast expansion of alternative energy developments across Europe and especially Germany. RWE is running NG operated power plants at losses and is shutting more and more down.

Still, if their plan was to boycott Russian oil & gas over this issue it will be a big challenge for everyone involved. They couldn't selectively reduce oil & gas imports just as a woman cannot be just a little bit pregnant.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:24 | 4503206 gatorengineer
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lets see hit him with absolutely everything non-military now, that way he will be discouraged from going after Eastern Belorussia, Latvia, etc.... Good plan...

 

Lets see who gets hurt worse, Western Europe or Russia, with no energy flow.  Sure is a good thing the russians dont set the price of that gas huh?

 

I like turtles and red lines....

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:56 | 4503017 AreaMan
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Funny how were the joke in Europe. They laugh at our tourists and mock our obese. Yet everytime without fail they come crying back and beg us to save them.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:05 | 4503078 Cacete de Ouro
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Well, the tourists are quite funny

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:18 | 4503161 Miles Ahead
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wow... the timing of that is quite scary (see below!)

 

E.S.P.  Miles Davis

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:16 | 4503152 Miles Ahead
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We became obese post WWII.  I haven't seen any European country begging the US to save them.  Looks like we the US keep "volunteering".  Like now.

Oh, my bad... there was a European country that begged to be saved.  That was Bosnia Herze... whatever.  And what did we do then?  Oh yeah, blockade them from others seeking to supply them the means to defend themselves against genocide from a well armed aggressor.  And kept that up for over THREE YEARS. Our first Black President did that one... the sax guy.

So there was the chance.  Blew it.  The Srebre... whatever - massacre.  And ended up being the largest slaughter of civilians on European soil since... you became obese.

(btw, our tourists are hilarious. seriously.  Sorry for my spelling on those cities, etc.  Public schools... you know...)

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:31 | 4503534 TungstenBars
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I think you forgot the /sarc tag..

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:12 | 4503086 Deathrips
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FWIW ..i think its all these parasites against us (the people).

 

I remember a certain Putin saying that he would retaliate if Saudi threats materialized. Looked like those threats materialized. Jim Willie saying that London is liquidating Saudi gold (is this the retaliation?), but the western msm is clearly trying to denigrate Russia who promised retaliation of there was a Olympic disruption.

 

Maybe Saudi isnt quite ready to be served up. They may have a role to play with the acclimation of Iranian oil to the borg of the petro-dollar.

 

WTF do I know?

 

Here's what I know.

 

Stack on and learn independence, dont be dependent on wolfs in sheep clothing playing controlled opposition games. I also know Obama (and bushes etc) are all money changer mouthpieces.

 

RIPS

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502987 zorba THE GREEK
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As Pope Francis would say: " Ah fungool "

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:55 | 4503012 Renewable Life
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talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.................all that dude does is talk!

Talk to Bibi, Talk to Putin, Talk to Hu, Talk to himself, talk to the American people! Geeezus he's going to make a wonderful Ivy Leagur professor, when he's done destroying America! 

I think Putin must have Charlie Brown's mothers voice, as the ringtone for when the WH calls!! Its got to get laughs EVERYTIME it rings, no matter how many times you hear it! 

Let me guess, in the next 4 hours, the WH is going to announce, we have the privilage of listening to another Prime Time Press Conference, better hopey it doesnt interupt the Premiere of the Voice, there might be riots!

 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:34 | 4503842 Hobbleknee
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How about quit sending $400 million in aid to Russia every year and mind our own business?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 20:33 | 4504375 silvermail
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Putin can isolate the United States from around the world faster than you can spit. To this end, Putin needed only to declare that Russia sells oil and gas only for gold.
After that, the U.S. is becoming a third world country immediately. Check and mate.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 07:06 | 4505845 silvermail
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Putin's adviser on economics Sergei Glazyev said:
- Russia will abandon the dollar.
- And also Russia will create its currency system , together with China and other countries.
- And also Russia will abandon all public U.S. Treasuries.
- And also Russia will refuse to return any U.S. loans.
- And also Russia will arrest all assets of the United States and the West.
- And also Russian will stop all Russian oil and gas supplies to Europe. Oil and gas from Russia will go to China.
- And also Russia already has banned the import of meat from the United States.

Goodbye dollar, hello gold. Goodbye to the United States and the West, hello China and East.
http://x2t.com/287425

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:50 | 4502939 One And Only
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Aide to Ukraine.

No Aide to Detroit they can go bankrupt.

Good job America. We picked a winner.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:51 | 4502967 gatorengineer
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just wait till they tell him there are alot of Muzzies in Detroit.  It will change quick.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502981 RacerX
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as long as they are the peaceful muzzies. Like the Muslim Brohood.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502992 john39
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yeah, they will get droned.  perhaps you missed obama's fetish for droning certain muslims (ie, those not aligned with the central banker controlled dictators who do the US/Israel's bidding)?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:55 | 4503001 Kirk2NCC1701
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Obama must be a Gentleman, as even he prefers Blondes.

ps. Don't tell the Wookie.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:22 | 4503186 Miles Ahead
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Only the Danish ones.

And the Wookie already knows; hence this Wag The Dog opportunity...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:56 | 4503019 zorba THE GREEK
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It is probably safer to be in the Ukraine than in Detroit.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:48 | 4502941 alien-IQ
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market reaction......?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:51 | 4502975 gatorengineer
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green S&P close.  A beautiful thing

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502996 carbonmutant
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Traders are placing bets on who fires the first shot...

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:48 | 4502945 lolmao500
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https://twitter.com/AndersFoghR

Tomorrow, the Council will hold a meeting under Article 4 of the Treaty following a request by

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:51 | 4502972 fonzannoon
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The best part about today was I turned on CNBC around noon and heard two people agreeing that this was the perfect opportunity to buy facefart. Only CNBC could be pitching facefart on WW3

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:58 | 4503024 NoDebt
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I'm buying.  This might be the only pull-back you get for next few months.  Economy is recovering, Europe is fixed, China's got their "trust fund" bail-out-bucket ready for action and this whole thing in Crimea.... all overblown.  If WWIII breaks out, investments will be the least of our worries.  If it doesn't..... oh, you'll be absolutely kicking yourself for missing this buying opportunity!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:11 | 4503110 kito
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sadly, im torn whether to agree or disagree with you.....

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:16 | 4503467 Renewable Life
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OMG has Poland been invaded????? Where the Fuck is that story on CNBC??? 

Oh they havent been........then WTF are they talking about Article 4, for??? This has to be what it felt like in 1939, but today we don't have Theodore and Winston at the helm, and regardless of what you think about Roosevelt, the man looked stronger and more Presidential in a fucking wheel chair, then this current bunch of cronies do!!!!

Maybe Bammer, Harper, and Cameron can get together on an Aircraft carrier and take another "selfie" and twitter it out to the world, that should scare the shit outta Russia and China!

Lets just have Putin and Hu fist fight Bammer, Harper, and Cameron for the Batlics, and let all the young men live this time! The image that pops to mind is, Bruce Lee and Chick Norris fighting the Three Stooges, God Damn I'd pay $100 USD for that Pay Per View and the winners countries gets all the cash from the PPV too!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:49 | 4502946 Slave
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Damn, Foodstamp's handlers must really be angry that Putin pissed in their Cheerios.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:49 | 4502956 Byte Me
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Can we cut to the leaflet campaign already??

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:49 | 4502957 RafterManFMJ
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Perhaps 0bama's change was converting American cities to radioactive glass via WWW3?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:49 | 4502958 TeamDepends
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If we stop the flow of choom......?.......!?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:50 | 4502962 Theta_Burn
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Anybody else get the douchbag chills when this guy rolls out his stately diplomacy?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:50 | 4502963 TheGermanGuy
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Just when you thought they could´t fuck it up anymore, enter Obama, stage left

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:12 | 4503112 Cacete de Ouro
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Plan B: Free Obama phones for all Russian troops in Crimea

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:50 | 4502964 Dr. Engali
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U.S to China: We will gladly pay you Tuesday (2114) so we can aid the Ukraine today ..... Ah who are we kidding? We aren't paying you back lololololo.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:50 | 4502965 irie1029
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My God what a blithering idiot.  US needs to butt the fuck out.  That includes SOS Horsehead.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:51 | 4502970 RacerX
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Ha ha send them the O-BOMB-A-CARE!!

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:54 | 4502971 TaperProof
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Is that why BofAml said the russian ruble will be under pressure moving forward?  Came at a perfect time.

Perhaps Russia will fire sale their USD holdings in response?  With China and Russia selling... well.. I dont think I need to tell most of you what happens.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:51 | 4502973 taraxias
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Oh yeah, brilliant move, let's begin by shutting off those Russian gas valves to the EU.

We are so fucked.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:56 | 4503020 jcaz
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You expected this tool to remember that?   He's making this shit up as he goes along, using Joe Biden as his guide......

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:58 | 4503037 kurzdump
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I've already 'tuned' the program of my heater to prepare for the coming gas shortage. Hopefully the power grid is not dependent on gas-fired plants.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:15 | 4503140 CrashisOptimistic
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44% of the Ukraine's is.  They use more electricity than they create with that nat gas, too.

The remainder comes from the Russian grid.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502976 Debugas
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There are rumours that private security agents from "Greystone Limited" a subsidiary of "Xe Services LLC" are arriving to Kiev

No idea if it is true or not just catching it from the blogs

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:55 | 4503015 slightlyskeptical
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Putin will not take too kindly to the US and others sending goons to stir the fire. I hope that isn't true.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:17 | 4503160 cossack55
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Guess who the fuck started the fucking fire?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:04 | 4503073 Seize Mars
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Debugas
That means they are going to shoot some Ukrainians and blame it on Russians.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:20 | 4503173 Debugas
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could it be private Kerry's security ?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:31 | 4503244 agent default
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Of course the solution to this incident is for the Russians to take over the entire country.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:30 | 4503530 Meat Hammer
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Exactly, Seize Mars. Egg...fucking...zactly.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:26 | 4503216 Z_End
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If that is true, a whole bunch will probably end up in custody, or worse... The Russians are not going to be amused or in a good mood.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502978 carbonmutant
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Obama needs to form a committee to study his options... lol

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502979 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yes... isolate Russia from Wall St!

Where do we sign up?

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502982 LawsofPhysics
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I would like very much to see CHS's article/thoughts come to pass.  Start executing some paper-pushers, save the integrity of the dollar and all it's implied power.

Of course this is completely oppomistic as D.C. is nothing but a puppet show, scripted by the paper-pushers/moneychangers themselve now...

But just imagine, if power and control is what they really want to maintain, then the dollar must remain strong.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:08 | 4503098 centerline
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At some point the predators are going to eat other predators in a big way.  Just a matter of time.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:46 | 4503918 GoinFawr
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Someone predicted that around a century and a half ago when he coined the word:

http://paknews.pk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/capitalism.jpg

Yep, put as many odanata nymphs in a jar as you like, eventually there will only be one left.

Ah well, insects will behave like insects.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:52 | 4502985 bob_stl
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Obama didn't actually say that it would be "costly" to Russia. He said that the U.S. would work with the international community to come up with a declaration that would threaten that there might be costs.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 17:44 | 4503595 Kirk2NCC1701
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In that case, let's count the committal and action words: Would, Community, Would, Might, Cost.

Sounds like Cost will work: we spend more money to fund our Incompetents in Kiev.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502986 GhostInTheMachine
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I hope this Russian supersonic flying saucer will hit that stupit horshitfaced Kerry in the eye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AW1XHUcAsQ

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502990 adonisdemilo
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As statesmen go Obummer is about on a par with  the nodding dog on the rear window ledge of my car.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502991 MrBoompi
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Regardless of the barbs aimed at Obamacare and minimum wage, the government should be taking care of Americans instead of throwing money away overseas.  And by Americans I don't mean the .01%.  They are already coddled enough.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 15:53 | 4502997 grunk
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Leave nasty notes on Putin's locker. 

Nobody sit with Putin in the cafeteria.

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 16:13 | 4503122 kito
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lol. +1

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 18:17 | 4503123 kito
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lol. +2

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