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Russian Fleet Gives Ukrainian Crimea Forces Ultimatum To Surrender Or "Face Storm", Ukraine Defense Minister Quoted
Just out from Reuters:
- INTERFAX UKRAINIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY AS SAYING RUSSIAN FLEET HAS GIVEN UKRAINIAN FORCES IN CRIMEA UNTIL 0300 GMT TOSURRENDER OR FACE STORM
More from Reuters:
Russia's Black Sea Fleet has told Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender by 5 a.m. (0300 GMT) on Tuesday or face a military assault, Interfax news agency quoted a source in the Ukrainian Defence Ministry as saying.
The ultimatum, Interfax said, was issued by Alexander Vitko, the fleet's commander.
The ministry did not immediately confirm the report and there was no immediate comment by the Black Sea Fleet, which has a base in Crimea, where Russian forces are in control.
"If they do not surrender before 5 a.m. tomorrow, a real assault will be started against units and divisions of the armed forces across Crimea," the agency quoted the ministry source as saying.
And the response from the Ukraine:
- Head of Russian Black Sea Fleet demanded Ukrianian ship give up weapons and surrender, Oleksiy Kirchkov, deputy commander of Ukraine Navy vessel Ternopil, tells Ukraine’s Channel 5 by phone.
- Russia set 5 a.m. deadline for 2 Ukraine ships near Sevastopol to capitulate: Channel 5
- Ukraine ships “declined to meet the ultimatum, will stay till the very end”
It appears Putin is still unaware of the "costs" he is facing.
Meanwhile:
#Crimea The Russian deadline of 4 o'clock for Ukrainian troops to vacate Belbek base has passed. No sign of Russian military eviction force
— Elizabeth Palmer (@elizapalmer) March 3, 2014
Interpreter notes that Ukraine’s first president, Leonid Kravchuk, who served between 1991 and 1994, wrote in the Russian publication Snob.ru today that this crisis could spark World War III:
“I call on the Russian authorities to stop. Between our peoples should not be war. Does Russia not understand that this is the beginning of World War III?” he warned.
He vowed to defend the land of his forefathers despite his age.
“My great-grandfather and grandfather fought in World War I, along with Russia. I am 80 years old, but I’ll take a gun and I will defend their land. Every citizen will defend their territory as their home.
“We knelt and Russia sat us down. Czechoslovakia, Poland, Afghanistan, Hungary. Now Ukraine is on the line?” he continued.
If the Russian troops try to take these bases, and the soldiers inside resist, is it possible that Kravchuk’s warning could come true?
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hmmm...wouldn't want to be in the wrong foxhole in this one
1). Nazi’s seize power in Ukraine outside of democratic process.
2). Russia retakes large strategic areas of Ukraine, including airports, bridges and military bases, without firing a single shot.
Compare and contrast to
1). Unarmed woman driving in DC with her child in the back seat, “attempts to ram White House barrier” before fleeing.
2). Pursued and gunned down
We’re the good guys right? Right?
Whats the cost?
Obama is going to get madder?
And do what????
Golf. Maybe blow Reggie a couple moar times.
dreaming he could drone Putin like the random brown people gathering firewood in third world countries around the globe.
In Russia, line cross you!
Didn't BUSH Give A Similar Ultimatum To SADDAM ??????????????????????
"DESERT STORM" ???
Putin says," THESE FUCKEN OLYMPICS".
I think Putin has decided to give a masterclass on how you REALLY draw a line in the sand.
I hope the messianic community organizor is paying attention.
Good Move Putin...
We Sure Are Happy With Our $3 Trillion Investment In Iraq, Look What A Beautiful Place It Is Now!!!
What is the Russian translation for:
"Welcome comrades! We surrender, ha ha ha. Thank you for saving us from the EU? May I offer you some of the best Vodka I have been saving for such a glorious occasion? Let us celebrate together!"
The US has been waging War against the World since at least the fall of the Soviet Union.
Thank you psychopathic POS elites.
Obama is only getting Vlad's voicemail now.
www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/28/obamas-dumbest-plan-yet/
James Petras take: www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/02/352957/world-on-brink-of-another-nucle...
Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesman Maksim Prauta said four Russian navy ships were blocking Ukraine's anti-submarine warship Ternopil and the command ship Slavutych in Sevastopol's harbor.
He said the Russians ordered the crew to surrender within the hour or face Russians storming and seizing the ships and crew
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101449481
Oh for crying out loud.....it's a Soviet Grishna class corvette, with the original 3" gun and MANPAD "SAM battery".
Are they going to demand the First Sea Lord's bass boat next?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_corvette_Ternopil_%28U209%29
No we are not he good guys anymore we went to the dark side...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government...
The part that I hate most about it right now, is this is being done on our tax dime. We're paying for the neocons and you know to make their living stirring the pot of shite.
Actually, China and Russia (!!) are funding it.
Time to unload treasuries?
Ukes ain't gonna lose their farms or home there, but I would not want to be an opposition military/paramilitary.
"Ukes ain't gonna lose their farms or home there, but I would "......have close at hand a Ukrainian Flag, a Russian Flag, possibly a Chinese Flag to wave when the appropriate crowd came down marching the lane. And especially do not forget The Confederate Battle Flag, everyone on earth recognizes and respects that one.
According to Ben Fulford, US and Russian special forces have been mixing it up since Monday morning. Boots on the ground followed by blood on the ground.
Either unaware of the "costs" or figures he can afford to pay them.
or perhaps he cannot afford to not pay them
Deleted dupe
WOW... There Are Still BUSH Lovers Around .?.?
Are we speaking of high and tight bush, or the 70's throwback bush?
Big difference.
pods
Meh. Seen one neo-Nazi you've seen them all.....
<< Are we speaking of high and tight bush, or the 70's throwback bush? >>
Perhaps Barbara Hershey in "The Entity," 1982. The art of compromise, shall we say.
Surrender is a political decision, not a military one. Weird though, not a single shot or death reported.
Give it some time. There will be.
OMG, "In Russia, line cross you!", made me laugh so hard coffee came out my nose!!
He could hold a press conference (without questions) and call Putin a racist. That should work, it does here.
He will ask that the words on his teleprompter be BIGGER and with more!!!!! exlamation!!!!! marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sampled the msm propaganda this morning, out of curiousity. the situation in ukraine is being spun as an "opportunity" for the obama adminstration to prove that it can handle something serious. question is, is this meant to sway the average american in to believing that taking on Russia would be a good idea... or pressure obamao into doing something extremely stupid. or both.
Don't be silly. Zero doesn't need pressure from anyone to do or say something stupid.
He has his phone and his pen...Obama is tough guy.....
Double post. I blame it on the weather.
Russians do not realize Obama, if push comes to shove, will unveil his most potent weapon and unleash it in Ukraine------he will send in Martha Stuart who is of Polish extraction. Now that will teach the Russians not to mess around in the Ukraine !
Yep the Washpost article Saturday was calling out Obama as weak..
http://heavenbounf.blogspot.com/2014/03/so-this-is-what-obama-meant-when...
>Now Ukraine has emerged as a test of Obama’s argument that, far from weakening American power, he has enhanced it through smarter diplomacy, stronger alliances and a realism untainted by the ideology that guided his predecessor.
It will be a hard argument for him to make, analysts say.
GHW Bush had the media paint him as a wimp, so that he could 'prove them wrong by invading Iraq'.
It was no accident.
Obama doesn't need to be pressured into stupid things. It comes naturally to him.
The only purpose of the propaganda machine is to stir up the local dopes and get them to clamor for war. Unfortunatley for our Nazi rulers, their plan to dumb down the american people has worked so well that even they can't get them up off their couch anymore. The sheeple spent last night drooling into their beer and watching Da Oskahs!
As I said last Friday (4491084) and yesterday (4498774), Truth was the first casualty. Not sure I believe anything the Kiev's Freiheit Chickens (KFC) say.
If I were the Russians, I'd just shut off their utilities (water, sewer, electricity, Gazprom gas, landlines, cell towers), and invite them to make themselves comfortable and stay as long as they like -- as I already suggested (front-ran) yesterday: 4498743. Works like a charm, as history has shown, and takes the wind out of the US propaganda machine, since they love/need blood & guts to spin their Disney fables.
If I were the Ukranians leader I would order my forces to start blowing up pipelines, NOW. and tell the Russians that they have got until 300 GMT to leave their country...if they want any pipelines remaining.
Then I would heavily excise a "Transport Tax" for ANY GAS that travels through the remaining pipelines headed toward Europe. They can tell both the European Union and Russia to go fuck themselves and have true independence shored up by needed revenues to regain solvency.
Damn I wish that the NSA and CIA were reading this...and relayed it to the Ukranian leadership.
Fuck Pukin. Or, as an Eight Year Old Chaldean Boy calls him, Poopin. He is as much of a Piece of Shit as Oblather.
Obuttfucker, the Queen, Mr. Penis Breath himself. can go suckle upon Reggie Love's dick and KEEP OUR TROOPS OUT OF THIS QUAGMIRE. Doing nothing will be doing something right...for a change. (Except for that damned Homosexual behavior of his)
Okay, so you've just blown up the last pipeline (angering Moscow AND the EU!), now what, ya stoopid jenius?
The Chinese say they "understand" the situation Russia is in!!!
They could really show them they understand, with an invasion of those silly islands in the S China Sea!! Along side a dump of a half trillion in us treasuries in one day, and Bammer and the Boyz would be spinning in their chairs then, wouldn't they???
I think they sized that fool and his minions up years ago, and today the big boy shit starts, I "hope" broke ass America and Europe are ready!!!
Agree that the big boy shit may at least be starting. I still don't expect any large scale military encounters, and certainly no WW3. If the US continues to escalate, though, then PCR might prove to be right.
At some point, when the "leadership" of any nation puts us on the brink of nuclear holocaust, what are the actual human rights of people who just want to live, and continue doing so, rather than be incinerated because some sociopath calls himself a "political leader" and wants to have his way, be remembered as a "strong leader"? Lincoln, for example, IMO killed hundreds of thousands so that he wouldn't be remembered as the man whose election to the presidency caused the breakup of the US. What actions can we actually take when the political system is completely co-opted by big money? Representative government is a farce.
Watching the American MSM propaganda organs blathering today is just amazing. Even CNN and MSNBC have suddenly found a use for right-wing Republican Congressmen, urging strong actions against Putin, he's a dictator, it's the Soviet Union all over again, blah blah blah. No mention of US role in overthrowing Ukrainian government. No mention of right wing takeover after Yanukovich departed. To watch American media, this is all Putin's fault and he should back down.
To paraphrase Mark Twain - If you don't watch the news you are uniformed. If you do watch the news, you are misinformed.
Israeli provocateurs in Ukraine.
Jewish provocateurs in the US Establishment Media.
Must be Israel that wants a War.
Maybe the NeoCons wrongly believe Russia is Gog and Magog.
Double post.
The stock markets are not 'reacting' much. Any thoughts why?
Depends which "market" you're looking at. Bankster / US govvy controlled casino, which is why MIC is being hammered today and SP is unch.
IBelieveInMagic
you should change your name to
IBelieveInYellen
that should answer your questions regarding this stock market.
They're phony constructs?
and each day that this sort of thing goes on is more evidence of that fact.
Uhmm..have you been sleeping for the last six years? This is no longer a stock market.... It's a policy tool.
it can become that.
it hasn't yet however.
Are you fucking kidding me? You have been around long enough to know better. Hell the Bernank has admitted as much himself.
Probably because this things over. Russia now controls what they want to control. The only thing left to do is the vote on March 30th. When a majority supports a separate country Putin will have what he wants.
The market has already priced WWIII in. Don't worry, buy the dip. What could go wrong? The Fed has your back on this and they can shield you from any random nukes that come your way.
If you look at the European c;lose basically it is a sea of red but the falls get larger the nearer Russia you get geograhically. It is reacting and quite large in place like Poland but not so much here in UK.
Obama will issue a 14-point executive order. That'll show Putin.
/s
the vagina obama speaks. nobody listens. fuck you obama
Obama's vagina smells like Stalin's crusty moustache and fish.
Good God what did vagina's ever do to you guys to deserve that kind of disrespect????
Geez man, Minge Obama hasa Minge....
Move that pesky RED LINE !...again !
me surrender.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/142368.jpg
"me surrender.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/142368.jpg"
Hubba! Hubba!!
"We’re the good guys right? Right?"
I think that, at a minimum, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq...settled that question. And throw in Ruby Ridge, Waco, Sandy Hoax and Boston Boom for good measure as well.
"Dawn is 'happy hour' for my guillotine."
That is all true, yet I grow more and more irritated and disgusted with each passing day by all the implicit, not to mention the increasingly explicit, support and praise in this forum for the authoritarian and revanchist Putin and his puppet Russian 'leadership'. I see many if not most ZeroHedgers blindly falling into the same false and suicidal "vote for the lesser of two evils" kind of thinking here regarding this Ukrainian situation as they so rightly condemn in "red team/blue team" US politics, and can't help but laugh and shake my head at the irony of it.
BOTH the EU/NATO and the Putin/Russian sides here are equally evil, and equally at fault. Where are the voices supporing REAL Ukrainian autonomy, and freedom from BOTH Evil Empires? It seems that there are virtually none, here or elsewhere. As much as I hate the EU and the USA-led NATO, I'll be damned if I would therefore throw my support to Czar Vladimir instead.
BOTH the EU/NATO and the Putin/Russian sides here are equally evil, and equally at fault. Where are the voices supporing REAL Ukrainian autonomy, and freedom from BOTH Evil Empires? It seems that there are virtually none, here or elsewhere.
On many different occasions I have wrote that the Ukranians need to blow up a few Pipielines, threaten the Russians with the destruction of all of them, excise a transport tax on what is left to recapitalize their Treasury, and have suggested that the Ukranians tell both the EU and Pukin to go fuck themselves.
You haven't been reading my suggestion? (snark)
I do know what you mean and I agree.
The only way this works out well for Ukrainians is if Russia wins quickly and relatively bloodlessly AND then chooses the magnanimous and morally correct path.
I don't see any way for the Ukrainians to achieve self determination under the thumb of IMF, CIA, and Brussels.
Read the above. That is how they can escape from they tyranny.
I think the obstacle to that approach is installing an actual unity government to unite the Ukrainians. What they have right now is an absolute farce that lacks both legitimacy and popular mandate and has in fact gone out of its way to sew the seeds of division, so I think with the current tensions that civil war would be more probable than uniting against outsiders.
Personally I don;t see a problem with the people in the west Ukraine going their way and the people in the east going their way.
Thought along the same lines akak, Russia`s crime being to keep Ukraine weak and dependent. And with hindsight vulnerable as such.
The prevalent and mind clouding we-are-at-war based thinking seems to align itself to colonial reasoning of whom to sacrifice and a complete moral ineptitude when it comes to buffer states.
It is easier to complain about the Past,
not as easy to complain about the Future.
The enemy of my enemy is another spanner to be thrown into the machinery of tyranny. It's not black and white and more than subtle shades of gray.
I am not in the Ukraine, I am in one the "evil empires" and until the vilest one is brought to its knees, anyone's autonomy is in jeopardy.
-Third Gulag from the Sun.
"...yet I grow more and more irritated and disgusted with each passing day by all the implicit, not to mention the increasingly explicit, support and praise in this forum for the authoritarian and revanchist Putin and his puppet Russian 'leadership'. "
Not me. I detest, despise, all pols, crats, functionaries, banksters, etc. They make my skin crawl.
For an American, not DC US subject, there is a bit of elation in seeing the rest of the world put the shoe on DC US' other foot. Also consternation, as when things go really bad, we will pay most of the price.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying , quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: Is there really any place for these sociopaths and criminals in a restored civil and Constitutional society?!
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.
unarmed?
vertical lips, brain, 3000 lb car.
No we are not the good guys...we used to be them once but we turned to the dark side
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government...
Probably a false flag.
Putin won. Why shit his pants? Firing off a few rounds would get very expensive.
EXACTLY! "Putin demands surrender"?????!!!!
What..."those pesky Ukrainians becoming a pain in your butt"?
Bwhahahahahahaha.
You want ultimatums Czar Puti?
We'll start telling YOU what to do!
"Costs"? Nuthin' compared to the "Costs" soon to be foisted upon the citizens of any government dumb enough to enlist as pawns in the Eurocrat game.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/American_and_Israeli_Zionists_Behind_Civi...
Putin has so much balls that he aint thinking with his head
Maybe. This does not square with what they have done so far, and it comes from the amateur opposition.
Still looks like Russian objectives don't go past the Crimea. Quite reasonable under the circumstances.
PS Time to out the bath house, illegal alien fraud in the Black House.
anyone else buying Russian stocks here?
Maybe load up on the vodka since the ruble is getting pummelled. Man, it would be great to use USD in Russia right now on Russian hookers.
Man, look at CNY, RUB, UAH, JPY, yup this is the race to the bottom like some of the posters mentioned TWO fuckin years ago and is finally happening. This clusterfuck is definitely going to end up in WW3.
Yep, was a little early on the 'race to the bottom' call 18-24 months ago, but in my book, as long as you don't trade options, being early DOESN'T make you wrong.
As a trade, not an investment, right Fonz?
As if there were any investments now. Been thinking. I've always wanted to see Bali. Might be a good time.
there are no investments left. We are all renters.
Marijuana stocks are the place to invest. Pot... It's what's for dinner.
I just started looking into this. I saw some, it's a medical company out of N. Michigan and stocks were pennies, they are working on legislation that will allow them to distribute medical marijuana to both Canada and Uraguay. Companies involved in Hemp industriliazation will another area to look in.
del
German chancellor Kohl and Jelzin would still have private
meetings in the bathhouse and have a good laugh about their
small dicked genetically challenged colleagues.
Sorry, if you had your genes messed up, it`s over.
Alright Barry-O... your move. ("Check!")
"get on your knees and blow me."
ummm...now your move.
"It appears Putin is still unaware of the "costs" he is facing."
I think Putin is more aware of the costs he will be facing if he doesn't get this under control.
Zackly.. If he doesn't act now, those will be NATO bases in the Crimea instead of Russian.
nailed it. and the rest of the world (not already under zato control) had better take note. stand now, or soon on your knees. btw, China got a nice little message this weekend in the form of false flag massacre in Kunming. that operation had all the hallmarks of the usual suspects.
Sadly having to buy lunch at the next G-8 summitt wasn't a big enough deterent.
Mistranslation. It was coats.
Obozo was telling Vlad about his new pink one.
wussy Winston.
bwhahahahahaha.
As if Putin gives 2 shits about Vagina Squad...
Look out!
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090121001315/x-men/images/2/2c/Xmen...
The US stick has poked a very angry Russian Bear. The Russians have simulated US intervention-Ukraine scenario in their war games and the majority of times it ends in nuclear strikes worldwide.
LMAO......nukes will be dropping and the average US citizen "how am I going to make my house payment this month---will my credit card work???!!"
People are so fucking stupid.
wtf did we do?
WE'RE ON RUSSIA'S SIDE YOU MORON!
Easy on the meds...
*KERRY: RUSSIAN THREATS ARE 'UNACCEPTABLE'
*PUTIN: A TALKING HORSE...WHAT IS THIS? NARNIA?
*OBAMA: THE US WILL NOT PUT UP WITH SUCH RHETORIC ABOUT ONE OF ITS OFFICIALS
*PUTIN: OH THE MONKEY TALKS TOO?
Good shit Martial
Martial.... Keep them coming. LOL man, this is something to cheer about
+ 106
*PUTIN: A TALKING HORSE...WHAT IS THIS? NARNIA?
Nope, its the amazing Mr Ed !!!
Wilbuuurrrrrrrr!
Man, I logged in just to green ya. Thanks for the awesome lol!
Great laugh !!
It would be so cool to see Putin bring back the "monkey with a grenade" line. I think that would seal the deal on starting WWIII.
Thanks for that
Made me laugh out loud
They already all surrendered haven't they!!!
Alright US women...time for your equal rights - get down to the recruiters office and sign up for some combat jobs, we'll need you on the front lines shortly.
The youngin's would not know, but that's what killed the Equal Rights Amendment.
It was a done deal until Jimmy Carter opened his mouth, and said, "Of course, it will make women subject to the draft." All the bitches sat down and shut up. Maybe we could do something like that to ObummerDon'tCare.
I remember
It was a done deal until women heard they would have to sign up for the draft. True or not it stopped the ERA dead in its tracks.
Does not seem to have worked with the Gays in the military policy.
It's called S&M.
It isn't so much about equal rights as equal benefits. They want the benefits of military advancement and pensions, and understandably so. Probably didn't foresee the possibility of being drafted and put on front lines. Some women will fail to make the cut, just as some men do, just higher % in all likelihood.
If it comes to that (draft), shit will get interesting.
@One and Only: "Alright US women...time for your equal right..."
Feminist Activists... please be good role models by going first.
When women make war to the same degree as men, then the draft makes sense.
Meanwhile, women and children are, as always, the first victims of war.
Seems Russia is going to be taking advantage of the western bureaucracy to seize areas while we determine whether that memorandum is binding, and whether it is a strong 9 iron or a soft 8. (hit the 9, as hackers cannot hit a knock down shot)
pods
I can picture the "commander in chief" taking +/- 28 very focused practice swings in a 4 1/2 minute time frame, then sitting over ball for another minute, followed by either a duff or some rocket slicing skull shot that goes out of bounds. Drops ball and repeats the 50 yd shot shot again.
I would say "fore right" would be a pretty popular saying in his foursome.
pods
ummm...."if they don't care about the memorandum why should we"?
The New Bolshevik purge is afoot. Ukrainians need to decide their fate. Go with the banksters and get fleeced, or fold back into Mother Russia.
Better chance with the Russians than the EU banksters. Going with the Central Banksters hasn't worked out too well for Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy.
going with the central bankers only works out for the small minority willing to fuck over their fellow human beings. too blind to see that the benefits are very short term, and the ultimate price.... nothing that anyone who really understood how things really work would ever ever do.
Kirk has seen this played out before -- and maybe you have also.
Those damn Ferengi scammers and parasites using Clingons to be their muscle-man. ;-)
And it worked out double plus plus good for Cyprus.
Their Bail-In nightmare began nearly a year ago now.....
And, the nightmare continues: http://blogs.wsj.com/brussels/2014/02/28/cyprus-one-year-after-bank-bail...
LIFT UP YOUR HEART MY BROTHER!
The Ukranians are you FRIENDS.
Where's Pussy Riot when you need them?
....... well Ummmmm......
D.C
Looks like the political stooges the west planted got hijacked by ultra-neo-nazi-conservatives. Even though west may not admit it after working so hard to cause this - but it's in everyones interests (Russia AND the West) to wrestle control back from ultra-conservative group that took charge by force. They are brandishing nazi insignia and implementing ultra-nationalist values that are totally anti-western (making it "illegal" to speak Russian, and taking citizenship away from Russian speaking population which is 17% of Ukraine?) . It's done. Another ignorant and ill-advised / retarded Western foreign policy entanglement needs to now come to close. And NOT be escalated futher to cover up who really caused this (West) and what really happened.
Looks like the political stooges the west planted got hijacked by ultra-neo-nazi-conservatives.
Now this was in the works for awhile.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-t...
Here is everyone's favorite addled brained NeoCon McCain and "fuck the EU" Nuland hangin with the sieg heiling fearless leader of the Neo Nazi Svoboda party who is running the interm government in Ukraine right now. With photographic evidence.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-t...
Apparently Neo-Nazis were a bit too much for even Merkel and her cronies who were also plotting with the US to overthrow Ukrainian government using the State Department Visigoth mercenaries to train the Neo Nazi brownshirts over there in how to burn things with Moltov cocktails.
http://peoplesworld.org/germany-scandal-pornography-and-naked-truths/
Aside from expansion into Afghanistan and Africa, it was difficult to forget that manned German Patriot missiles, like those of the U.S., stand oiled and ready on the Turkish border to Syria. Or to forget that in the terrible turmoil in Ukrainian Kiev, German politicians have played a key role. Despite the slightly obscene jab at the European Union by assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland, who was angered by European trespassing on presumed U.S. turf, that tough, tall boxer-hero of Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, was built up and supported all the way by the Adenauer-Stiftung in Germany, an adjunct of Merkel's party. She just welcomed him in Berlin for photo-ops and strategy talk - along with an ally from Kiev's city square. The third ally was evidently not invited, perhaps for being so blatantly anti-Semitic, with his Svoboda Party too close to its pro-Hitler antecedents. Maybe it was his gang which started up the most recent bloody renewal of hostilities.
Now you know what that fuck the EU tiff was about. The Germans wanted punch drunk and his party to run things and now you know what Nuttyyahoo was referring to making shadow Hitler mustaches of herr Merkel there. The joooooos aren't happy about this either.
If you had a covert Muslim operative running the White House and State Department and wanted to purposely undermine the US on the world stage and threaten it's national security interests through incompetence you back Neo Nazi's in a messy government takeover to alienate the US from it's 2 key allies Germany (EU/Europe) and Israel aka the jooos in the Middle East in the 2 key regions concerning their hedgemony interests aka USD/Gas/Oil to undermine it's very interests while claiming to protect them through purposeful incompetence. It is inverted Marxism strategy in play here. The real enemy is within not outside and it is attacking in that manner here.
Is everyone really that fucking stupid and can't see what is going on here..... Russia doesn't want the EU dissolved or at war they just want to sell gas and oil the US especially the covert Muslim there wants Jihad and is stealthly through purposeful incompetence playing everyone off each other like a bunch of suckers while undermining the US on the world stage at the same time.
Yes, definitely planned by Fuck the EU. It is hard for people to accept that the leaders of a government would support who everyone collectively agrees is the worst, but if these people are just pawns what does it say about who is really the worst? USNATO supporting alCIAda says plenty, so there can be no doubt they'd support neo-nazis.
Again, this goes back to the Spanish Civil War which is the blueprint for Syria/Ukraine I think. The modern deep states will support anything when it comes to defeating an autonomous organisation of people, whether it's bolsheviks or fascists it's no matter. Self-preservation of banker thieving is all that matters.
+1. The KGB grew up and its successor, the FSB, took some pages out of CIA's Dirty Games book. I.e.,
I would not be surprised if they saw what was coming, decided to pull a Rahm Emmanuel ("Let no crisis be wasted"), and front-ran the coup with support of the Neo-Nazis. IOW: Coup the Coup. Hey, two can play that game, CYA!
Once again the fuck-ups in DC and Langley got egg (or sperm) on their face. LMAO.
I just hope that there are plenty of decent human beings left at the Firm, to say "fuck it!" and (re)-join the rest of the human race (Ed Snowden or Simon Black style), rather than serve the fucking Grays in DC and NY.
This has the Muslim Community Bathhouse Barry and the evil witch of the North Jarret's antagonizing fingerprints all over this. Play the Germans and jooos off against each other over a sensitive issue aka Nazism and the emotional raw wound and pain it invokes aka the holocaust. This is textbook divide and conquer Alinsky tactics at work here. Not only that they are playing the cold war card using the same tactic to suck everyone into a fight that without thinking first..... Am I the only semi lucid person left that sees this?
If the EU and NATO has half a fucking brain and hasn't gone insane they won't get sucked into entangling alliance trap the Muslim in Chief waging jihad in the US is setting to play allies off each other using Russia as the excuse after manufacturing the problem in Ukraine. They will let Putin clean up the mess he made and stay out of it and deal with the problems at the negotiating tables.
The Germans may have wanted a regime change but does anyone think they are really that fucking stupid to want Neo-Nazi's running the place.
Who threw the first punch in Ukraine? Who footed the bill and who did they pay to stir the shitpot to put them in power? Last time I checked it wasn't the Russians and the organized methods used to force the change clearly had 'force multiplier' training all over it. The only question is was it the US military or mercenary groups like greystone limited comprised of former entities trained in 'force multiplier' tactics stirring up the shit pot. Follow the money, it will tell the tail whether this was a stealth jihad operation by the WH and State Department or legit 'national security' operations.
THE BZERKAL MERKALS HAVE ARRIVED!
THE BZERKAL MERKALS HAVE ARRIVED!
If you had a covert Muslim operative running the White House and State Department and wanted to purposely undermine the US on the world stage and threaten it's national security interests through incompetence you back Neo Nazi's in a messy government takeover to alienate the US from it's 2 key allies Germany (EU/Europe) and Israel aka the jooos in the Middle East in the 2 key regions concerning their hedgemony interests aka USD/Gas/Oil to undermine it's very interests while claiming to protect them through purposeful incompetence. It is inverted Marxism strategy in play here. The real enemy is within not outside and it is attacking in that manner here.
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The twists, the convoluted mind contorsions 'Americans' are ready to accept in order to avoid facing reality.
Even when excepted, they are always as surprising as 'americans' know no bounds.
How could 'americans' in Israel be upset by the alliance of the US to nazis in Ukraine since those Israeli sent instructors to train the nazi militia in Ukraine?
Or maybe Israel is also infiltrated by muslims?
'Americanism', the best thing to have ever happened to humanity. The sheer brutality 'americans' are able to sustain when it comes to take shelter in fantasy in order to avoid facing reality... Non 'american' brains would sink in dementia. But that is the usual for 'americans'.
The error in your analysis is the assumption that Obama actually believes in anything but his own lies, or has ambition to do anything but fill his abyssal hole of pride.