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Russian Fleet Gives Ukrainian Crimea Forces Ultimatum To Surrender Or "Face Storm", Ukraine Defense Minister Quoted
Just out from Reuters:
- INTERFAX UKRAINIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY AS SAYING RUSSIAN FLEET HAS GIVEN UKRAINIAN FORCES IN CRIMEA UNTIL 0300 GMT TOSURRENDER OR FACE STORM
More from Reuters:
Russia's Black Sea Fleet has told Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender by 5 a.m. (0300 GMT) on Tuesday or face a military assault, Interfax news agency quoted a source in the Ukrainian Defence Ministry as saying.
The ultimatum, Interfax said, was issued by Alexander Vitko, the fleet's commander.
The ministry did not immediately confirm the report and there was no immediate comment by the Black Sea Fleet, which has a base in Crimea, where Russian forces are in control.
"If they do not surrender before 5 a.m. tomorrow, a real assault will be started against units and divisions of the armed forces across Crimea," the agency quoted the ministry source as saying.
And the response from the Ukraine:
- Head of Russian Black Sea Fleet demanded Ukrianian ship give up weapons and surrender, Oleksiy Kirchkov, deputy commander of Ukraine Navy vessel Ternopil, tells Ukraine’s Channel 5 by phone.
- Russia set 5 a.m. deadline for 2 Ukraine ships near Sevastopol to capitulate: Channel 5
- Ukraine ships “declined to meet the ultimatum, will stay till the very end”
It appears Putin is still unaware of the "costs" he is facing.
Meanwhile:
#Crimea The Russian deadline of 4 o'clock for Ukrainian troops to vacate Belbek base has passed. No sign of Russian military eviction force
— Elizabeth Palmer (@elizapalmer) March 3, 2014
Interpreter notes that Ukraine’s first president, Leonid Kravchuk, who served between 1991 and 1994, wrote in the Russian publication Snob.ru today that this crisis could spark World War III:
“I call on the Russian authorities to stop. Between our peoples should not be war. Does Russia not understand that this is the beginning of World War III?” he warned.
He vowed to defend the land of his forefathers despite his age.
“My great-grandfather and grandfather fought in World War I, along with Russia. I am 80 years old, but I’ll take a gun and I will defend their land. Every citizen will defend their territory as their home.
“We knelt and Russia sat us down. Czechoslovakia, Poland, Afghanistan, Hungary. Now Ukraine is on the line?” he continued.
If the Russian troops try to take these bases, and the soldiers inside resist, is it possible that Kravchuk’s warning could come true?
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In the US, half the NeoCons would be jailed.
I hope Russia whacks every single one of them that refuse to surrender.
Good god, why? You just a Putin fan or what? That makes utterly no sense. Read your history!
That's what russians do.
But for any ignorant fuck living the life in the US, any atrocities done by the russians are the only way to get a hard on. They will approve and applaud death.
What I wish for them is to experience war on their doorsteps.
There are a lot of communists on ZH, they have been brainwashed into blaming the 'Zionists' for everything.
Unfortunately they have probably been 'educated' by the US school system.
Wouldn't be talking on this subject if the EU and U.S. governments had honored the February 21st meeting that called for early elections, of a sitting President who won a fair election with international observers present in 2010...
Their is a procedure in Parliament that could have resolved this before it ever got to this point and we all know it. If Yanyukovych was so despised call for his an emergency vote confidence and he would have been out of there.
You can ignore it all you want at your own peril from guys like this who helped fund the coup.
Now the West has what is coming to it!
Be a man and take responsibility for your Zionist behavior. No one is judging you.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/721751
Vladimir Putin followed military exercises taking place at Kirillovsky Test Ground in Leningrad Region
http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/6759
9K720 Iskander-M (SS-26 Stone)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/images/ss-26-kaliningrad.jpg
Sabre rattling... Is Pax Americana now going to take on a military fight in Ukraine, where it has NO vital interest except to punish Putin (which is much easier by economic means, imposing this by using Nato on Germany, to throttle its gas imports).
From the US point it could have the benefit to put Germany's bubbling economy under the COLD WAR MIC NATO gun.
But will Mutti accept that...? She is between a rock and a hard place.
As EU is not a common political and economic/financial front around it's tattered and battered common currency.
A major arms race in East Europe benefits the US MIC not Germany.
Well, the US has been gearing up for such a situation in the Far EAST, aka with China/Japan face off. That longer term China/US face off may have to take back seat behind the Putin "put".
Awesome gamble by Putin and lets see if this degenerates into a new tragedy like Syria with the Ukrainians being thrown to the dogs like the Syrians...
We are in tipping times and confrontation chimes; but the ugly head of Kraken has left the China and the Mediterranean to reappear in the Black Sea...
Who would have thought that possible during the Sochi shake, rattle n roll Olympics, just less than a month ago !
Germany has not had an independent or intelligent thought since 1999...the French should know that.
The French think the opposite. They bitterly regret today not having participated in the Schroeder revolution which has paid such good dividends to Germany since 1999. Both the Left and right in France realise how vulnerable their own economic complacency has made France; but thats water under the bridge. Now its time for consequences...
You underestimate the Schroeder "flexitime" and union/Capitalist, big company/small company alliances that have made the German economy tower like a colossus over the rest of europe.
But Germany is under the Nato gun, yes, and NEVER really wanted to create a defense and political alliance in Europe with its southern partners. (remember the incredible stalemate and no action during the Sarajevo crisis when Mitterrand asked Kohl for a joint military action to save Bosnia from Milosevic and he got a NEIN, and the Americans stepped in to stop the rot in Dayton and what followed. EU has no common military policy.
I think one of the lessons of this current recession and maybe forthcoming blood and guts local war bloodletting will be to put that on the main agenda of EU, if it survives the unknown knowns of future Pax Americana plays thru this current mega crisis now cooking since six long years.
Time to say Putin has acted "stupidly" and to call for a beer summit.
For posterity.
From a friend of a friend who's wife is Western Ukrainian and sides with Russia on this attempted coup and annexation of her Country by the West.
It certainly is a Western coup. Whether Zionist controlled or not, we cannot yet say, though prior experience ought to guide us.
However............
The Crimean peninsula has always been Russian.
During the Soviet Union era, sometime around 1963, Nikita Khrutshof reinstated its status as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and gave it to the Kiev administration against the acceptance of the Kiev authorities to accept the expansion of Russia's over-polluting heavy steel and aluminium industry in the Ukrainian areas of Dnepropetrovsk - Dniprodzerzhinsk and Zaporizhia. These areas are now purely Ukrainian and Russia has no control over that industry. The Migs were being built there so were the heavy armoured vehicles and cannons. Also the military shipbuilding industry in the Ukrainian ports of Mykolayev - Sevastopol and Marioupol, which also always remained as Russian military naval bases. Thus the Khrutchof agreement stands no more.
Now the westerners howl about legal status, UN charters, sovereignty and other crap, when nobody mentions the parallel, that 40% of the "sovereignty" of Cyprus is under Turkish army military occupation since 1974.
I believe, and so does my wife, (who is Western Ukrainian, partly Polish), that Putin has every right to safeguard Russia's interests, especially since they are of a military nature of supreme importance. The West has again been extremely stupid to think that they could come out winners in a coup as such.
I am extremely worried, that the Ukrainian Nazi party, supported by the West, creates a scuffle that could start an overall war, and obviously, Ukrainia shall be the loser. Russia sympathisers, even in the West of Ukraine, exceed 60% of the population. As to the other 40%, more than half believe that their natural allies are the Russians and not the West. I have explained that in a previous mail I sent you.
Attached are some historical facts about Crimea that would make interesting reading. By-the-way, Tatars are Turks back from the Genghis Chan era.
the term "zionism" of over-used and frequently misapplied. Often it is not "zionism" which is implicated, simply the ethnic identity of powerful figures such as Russia's and Ukraine's oligarchs
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-oligarch-rule-governors-512/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
We can expect these people to have little loyalty to Ukraine and strong ties to western banking institutions. Hence it is not "Zionism" so much as a major group within the Global Banking Empire who have ideological and religious links to Zionism.
They aren't exactly hiding it. They can rely on the inability to discuss it, safeguarded by the hypocritical thought police everywhere who want to convince us that "it doesn't matter" that this same group is wildly over-represented in basically all of the countries involved in a situation, from the Ukraine, Russia, and US, to the UK and its Torah/Tory party and Jewish background PM, to France with its Jewish globalist academics like Levy, Jewish Foreign Minister, slavishly Zionist shabbas goy interior minister and, of course, France's AIPAC, CRIF.
There is something like a coordinated effort to rape and pillage Ukraine. The question is who will the IMF riot benefit? Will it matter if its mostly the same oligarchs who financed this coup? Does it matter if most of the anti-Putin rhetoric and propaganda about the virtues of the coup in Kiev seem to be "zionists"?
I dont know, man. But as always, by nature I'm curious most of all about those stories the news never covers, and the questions you aren't allowed to ask. Those tend to be about hiding the not so Hidden Hand of coordinated global banking and global zionism, both.
Why are Ukrainian nationalists called Nazis and Russian nationalists are just Russian? They're all from the same cloth.
Where is any sort of proof to support the allegation that the West, ie Europe, the US and NATO are actively supporting "Nazis" in the Ukraine?
This is Russian propaganda at its best. Create the boogeyman and scare the people shitless into drinking the koolaid. That's how they controlled Russia and the USSR for as long as they did.
Why are Ukrainian nationalists called Nazis?
Simple. Because they introduce themselves that way. Leaving under the communist grip did not breed certain reflexes as it did in 'american' nations. Like blatant denial of what they are obviously.
"From a friend of a friend who's wife is Western Ukrainian and sides with Russia on this attempted coup and annexation of her Country by the West."
Totally unbiased source there! Unless the people rioting were paid to do that, I hardly believe it. How do you figure? People don't just step up for a beating/getting shot for no reason. I think there's a strong anti-Russian faction in Ukraine, whether your friend's wife believes it or not!
I've got a stock tip for you. It comes from a friend of a friend whose wife is sleeping with a stock broker.
You'd be surprised at what you'll do when you are cold, tired without work and hungry.... Oh you left out this part where the handouts came from, $5 billion of 'em!
Question the Americans should be asking themselves is how much money is left to do these "CANVAS" projects with an economy that went bust 5 years ago.
Coming to a theater in your neighborhood soon.
The US can't commit forces to Ukraine that it might need for Syria and/or Iran.
AIPAC runs foreign policy, and AIPAC don't care about Ukraine.
AIPAC may not have complete control, but it is a false flag away from complete control and rumours of its loss of power are overstated.
Occasionally, there will be criticism of AIPAC, but it's not covered much, or covered as 'antisemitic' unless it's a fellow Jew doing the criticizing... which means 97+% of the population can't criticize a group that is a minority of a minority and whose position distills to Jewish ethnocentrism, loyalty to Israel, and using American blood and treasure to remake the Middle East for Israeli hegemony. No matter the cost in that American blood and treasure. Neoconservatism is nothing but proxy zionism.
All of which means, with Ivan's eyes fixed on Ukraine, it's a great time to ramp it up against Syria and perhaps Iran itself. Obama should be getting his orders from AIPAC and Netanyahu presently.
All based on the same kind of lie the same kind of people pulled off 13 years ago.
You are a smart guy but are either the minister of ZH propaganda for Putin or just woefully misinformed.
woefully misinformed.
oh really?
How so? Do go on...
It is about energy, Europe and the U.S.
I'm not always in agreement with Jim Willy but the stuff he's been harping about does look like it's coming to fruition for the bankers in the West getting very desperate "by the minute".
Trust me they'll try it again because they don't want to see their investments and markets going with them East. The BRICS and SCO is that threat and we're see the level of desperation being played out through John Kerry and his boos President Remus.
Don't be a fool and think this was a surprise for US administration. This is exactly the reaction the US wanted and knew they would get from Russia. It is unprecedented that a leader of a country would announce threats and consequences publicly like the POTUS did a few weeks ago. The Russian reaction was needed to draw US into a conflict to further weaken the US. Wake up folks and use common sense.
Obviously Russia is facing near bankruptcy again. Why does anybody ever start a war otherwise? This whole notion of "Ukranian Nazis" is complete and utter bogus. Russia's Nazis are just as bad if not worse.
Ukraine hasn't thrown protesting women into gulags, that's Russia's thing. Russia is dying and the only avenue left for Putin is stoking the flames of nationalism. From that perspective Russia's leader is a cross somewhere between Stalin and Hitler. I'm not sure if Putin has developed some sort of mental disease yet but his actions are that of a man in turmoil. Maybe he is actually gay which would explain the latent homophobia. His constant egocentric display of manhood is a sign of desperation. He wants to appear like Lord Farquart in his kingdom far far away.
Russia's GDP is that of Italy with a per capita income of Barbados. The games cost $51 billion Dollars and the Russian rubel is diving, rates are soaring. The country can't afford a war just because they're sitting on NG and oil reserves.
The US on the other hand is run by a group who doesn't know their ass from their elbow. While Putin's idea of leadership is that of a man stuck in 20th century nationalist and fascist ideology, Obama has no idea of any leadership.
We're all fucked.
Ukraine's Nazis are just as bad as Israel's Zionists. Well, maybe not that bad. At least Ukranian Nazis aren't partitioning neighborhoods and killing Chechen children.
you're correct for the most part
Dude.
Propaganda
typing "propaganda" without any argument or evidence that is false it itself merely "propaganda."
Have any actual evidence that the info in the link is false? employs unfair contingent inferences?
Anything?
Like virtually all of MSM, you may find it convenient to allege that Putin started whatever it is.
But the truth is that it was the West: USG, UK, EU, after Ukraine turned its back on cosying up to the EU a while back. All Russia is doing now is seeking to provide protection to ethnic Russians in Crimea - who are a majority. And perhaps to prevent the West from moving in.
"All Russia is doing now is seeking to provide protection to ethnic Russians in Crimea - who are a majority. And perhaps to prevent the West from moving in."
Understand Georgia and you Understand the Ukraine and Russias motives. Which ARE NOT to protect ethnic Russians. THe U.S. has been engaged in secret opps to promote instabilit in that region for years. The U.S. too could care less about ethnic Russians.
Seriously, Smacker? Sometimes things are what they appear to be.
According to RT.com, about 6,000 Ukrainian military personnel have now jumped ship over the past 48 hours and pledged loyalty to Crimea over whatever orders are sent out by the self-appointed "government" in Kiev.
Add to this a squadron of military pilots and the rear admiral, I wonder if there'll be many Ukrainians left to hold their ground at 03:00 zulu tomorrow.
No, and I doubt Putin starts firing at the remaining on base Ukrainians loyal to Kiev... probably give them safe passage out of Crimea or some such, but I'm sure they'll want to relieve them of their weapons first.
Certainly, Ukraine can't rely on its navy, such as it has one.
Yaysenyuk, there is no doubt, is working hard. The question is, for whom?
Probably the same people as Bernie Levy, who is a perfect example of zioglobalist cuntery and hyocrisy. He is France's McCain.
What such people fail to appreciate is that not all consequences are intended, never mind beneficient. Some are merely predictable.
According to RT?
RT doesn't deal in fact. It's like getting news from Cuban TV.
"It appears Putin is still unaware of the "costs" he is facing."
Indeed, with the rouble tumbling down and with the moscow stock echange also falling, he might not be aware how much he and russia just lost for a couple of days of agression. Is it worth it?
I suspect putin's net worth is now close to $50 billions, instead of $70bil a couple of days ago.
Also, be aware I will start counting down as "stupid fucks" all those who answer just to say "Putin is the man", "war" or something else arising from a nice warm couch in the US or W Europe.
Seriously? You think so?
Paper currency? Stocks?
Vs resources, strategic ports?
I'll bet Putin took profits before ordering the SNAP military drills last week. Wake up dude, the "leaders" of the East/West enrich themselves at someone else's expense.
http://rt.com/news/crimea-air-base-allegiance-593/
Welcome to Brokeback Presidency.
We know how this movie ends.
So, you seem to have forgotten how the pro-Russkie folks came to power in Ukraine, in typical Soviet style. The pro-drmocracy sentiment exploded when Putin's puppet rejected the EU.
Or, just blame Israel, or Bush, or the Tea Party.
hold elections..... declare ukraine a muslim state... obama will react then... 1/3 of russian gas exports transit ukraine... that's $30 million per day... germany has 60 days of demand in stock... eastern europe about 30 days..
United States of Amerika
Best Damn Gulag on the Planet
so isn't it interesting to watch Washington try to distance itself from yet another mess it had a hand in creating.
and now the horse face man is accusing Russia of invading the Ukraine under a "false pretext", of course the astounding hypocrisy of that statement needs no further elaboration. I am relieved however for the lack of statements involving "red lines" and "all options are on the table" as I really didn't want to spend time in the hole for refusing to serve in a war provoked by people I despise and a government I have no love for or loyalty to.
but I would have.
unfortunately the lack of that type of rhetoric must be viewed with some suspicion, the declaration from Obama et al. that they are not "seriously considering military intervention" has to be viewed from the standpoint that we are dealing with a white house full of pathological liars and incurable power mad control freaks.
they have lied, continue to lie about everything else so why should this be any different? have they suddenly come to new wisdom and acquired a new found respect for the lives of the little people, do they suddenly care about the consequences of constant manipulation and meddling?
obama care, QE, fast and furious, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, the NSA spying on the entire planet, the IRS being used as political enforcers, police militarization, the DHS taking over duties that were traditionally the sole province of state and local law enforcement and on and on...
are we now to take them at their word that they will the only actions they will take from this point forward in the Ukraine will be of the above board diplomatic type? Obama, Kerry and company lie so much and on such a grand scale that I doubt they are capable of telling the truth in regards to any situation. they viewed the Ukraine as important enough to organize, fund and provoke a violent overthrow of the democratically elected president so how can any statement they make on the subject going forward be viewed as in any way truthful?
they can't.
including those about not seriously considering military intervention. now my hope is that statement comes from one of two places and neither of them have anything to do with the the white house wanting to preserve human life.
1. simple fear of Russia's nuclear arsenal, push to far and nobody is safe, not the serfs which they consider as cannon fodder anyways, but not the political, bankster and social elite either. nuclear weapons don't discriminate.
2. our own military leadership nixed the idea from the start. apparently this wouldn't be the first time the US military higher ups told the white house no. legend has it Bush jr. wanted to go from Iraq to Iran but was stonewalled by military leadership, so it's not unthinkable or unprecedented that it could be the case now as well. as we have witnessed on many occasions lately civilian command over the military only goes as far as the military allows it to.
as for the Ukrainians in Crimea, they should probably surrender and they most likely will, I'm sure the don't have any more desire to throw there lives away in the service of corrupt fools then any of the rest of us do.
I'm sure the don't have any more desire to throw there lives away in the service of corrupt fools then any of the rest of us do.
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Just sitting one hour near a recruitment bureau shows how disconnected from reality this statement is.
Actually, 'americans' are used to weeping when they are rejected from enlistment.
'Americans' love war. They crave war. This one of their favourite activities.
I'm sure the don't have any more desire to throw there lives away in the service of corrupt fools then any of the rest of us do.
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Just sitting one hour near a recruitment bureau shows how disconnected from reality this statement is.
Actually, 'americans' are used to weeping when they are rejected from enlistment.
'Americans' love war. They crave war. This one of their favourite activities.
If a Chinese Citizenism citizen blobs-down a turd (or a female fetus, same difference) onto a roadside, and nobody else is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Putin spits in Obama's face.... Obama takes ACTION... against Israel..... what a guy...
That's nothing new. Remember what happened when Saudia Arabia attacked us in 2001?
Saudi Arabia allied with Israel and the US Government.
Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesman Maksim Prauta said four Russian navy ships were blocking Ukraine's anti-submarine warship Ternopil and the command ship Slavutych in Sevastopol's harbor.
He said the Russians ordered the crew to surrender within the hour or face Russians storming and seizing the ships and crew
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101449481
Putin should have used the phrase "shock and awe" just to rub it in
PUTIN = IRON FIST
versus
OBAMA = LIMP WRIST
I almost gave you an up vote, but they can track that shit.
Obama has a new strategy: the Red Parabola. A parabola bogs down the trespaser, because he doesn't know when or where he's crossed it. Only Obama knows! This is the flexibility he obtained by his re-elction. Y = x^2 bitches.
Barry's plan is to run and hide behind Moochelle's skirt - Moochelle ass is fucking huge, so their's lots of coverage for that melon head of Barry's.
Barry - you are a fucking wet marshmallow. Get the fuck out of the WH - you don't belong there.
we are guided by fools
Goldberg is a lying, sack of Israel First.
And like Netanyahu, all he's doing on Iran is trying to lie the US into a war that's really about Greater Israel.
oh, the Iraq reactor????
Iran Nuclear Talks: Remembering the Israeli Attack on Iraq’s Peaceful Nuclear Reactor Osirak. Will History Repeat Itself?Strictly civilian.
that's why I pulled it....I did a thorough read through of it after the fact. I thought it was about Ukraine and then saw the content afterwards. My editors are on lunch. Please excuse me Mr Cocknballs. Your posts have been most informative.
Evidently one of those fools is running loose on the ZH blog and down voted you IR....
Germany always tries to take the Ukraine. Russia always ends up with the Ukraine. But George Soros, the Central Bankers, and Obama are all morons with no grasp on history. Soros is especially stupid because he made all his first big money as a Jewish Nazi Sympathizer skimming money from Jewish estates he helped confiscate for the Nazi's in his homeland. He lived through this crap once already.
Hey is it now OK to bash the tribe again?
Woohoo!
Free Frances Sawyer!
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I got cheese
Long Russian ammo. It will probably be banned for import very soon by the ATF.
During the Cuban missile crisis, Kennedy was surrounded by a collection of brilliant guys because Kennedy put them there (lucky for us).
Today, Barry has surrounded himself with two-digit IQs, back-alley hires, and lying pieces of shit.
Vlad must find this clown outfit to be incredibly hilarious. Team Obama doesn't even qualify as a challenge.
How does it compare?
The cuban missile crisis was preceded by the turkey missile crisis, USSR pushing their missiles in Cuba as an answer to the threat of missiles deployed in Turkey.
The story ended nil-nil: missiles not in Cuba, missiles not in Turkey.
Putin was caught unprepared. He probably failed to conceive that 'americans' would ally openly with Nazis to stir hatred of russians in Ukraine.
Before that, Ukraine was Russia's turf.
After that, Ukraine minus Crimea will no longer be Russian turf.
No, wrong as usual roadside-turds-for-brains.
The Cuban missile crisis was preceded by the Peking Duck missile crisis.
'Americans' and their will to take shelter in fantasy.
Chinese Citizenism trolls and their need to take shelter in blameplacing and their own perverted fantasies.
Go ahead, AnAnnoyingMoose, tell us all again how your fairy tale of how you blame Americans for the collapse of Easter Island's society long before the USA was even founded, and before Easter Island even had ANY contact with the outside world --- I really like that one.
Frankly, instead of saying, "face storm", I wish the Russians had used the phrase "shock and awe" instead. Nothing like an ironic sense of humor to expose the prevalence of rampant hypocrisy.
'Americans' are fully aware of their duplicity. It is part of their eternal nature.
So Putin exposes 'americans' for duplicitous people. So what? It is established knowledge for a long time now.
Dead science.
What's your point?
By the way, did you know that stereotyping is one of the most effective propaganda tools in the government playbook?
The Chinese Citizenism troll has no point --- ever.
He is merely a paid and semi-autistic Chinese propagandist, or a badly-programed ChiCom webbot, whose only message is "Hate All Americans".
Ah so. Well, the Chinese can't help themselves; they're genetically statist. How do you like my new stereotype? : )
Every country Israel and America touches now turns into a catastrophic clusterfuck. What these two rogue counntries don't seem to grasp is the Natrual Universal Law stating "What you put out comes back ten fold".
Uh, this is America's fault?
You are thinking way too hard.
Just in
Obama and his waterdog threaten Putin with the ACA!
german industry already said "no sanctions" to prevent business from getting disturbed.
german army 300k standing, no match, other countries the same
so there is only one option to win something back
to get the big tools out
visit europe as long as it is there
this is appeasement 2
for crimean war version x.x
noone wants war but it will come, same procedure as every century
deterrence is broken, no need to store the nukes any longer
Black mailers are seldom satisfied with just one payment.
It's time for a prime time national address or something! That's right, the flock of sheep, I mean voters must be rallied into a pre-war frenzy. We need those pipelines!
Ezal: Smoke, buy me a 40oz for my birthday.
Smokey: Today your birthday?
Ezal: What's today?
ussa propagada machine, aka 'MSM', hasn't mentioned 'MIA'nuland once, and her conjugal vow
perhaps if... 'FUCK the EU', was not an act of mission(ary) accomplished intercourse but rather a brutal sodimizing as payment from the americana`satan as a mythical dowry...
?
"... this kind of interference in Ukraine seems that generally has failed to gain the acceptance of public opinion, mainly because its funders have erroneously put Ukrainian neo-nazis and any kind of nationalists in the game, probably because they estimated that without them, the uprising against Yanukovych administration would have failed."
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/03/the-closed-system-of-biggest-...
What is the betting that in response to the EU/US telling the Ukrianian Government to "keep calm and not do anything stupid to further provoke the Russians" they decide to do exactly that on the basis that they signed treaties with EU/UK/US for defence in exchange for a large stock pile of Nukes to be decomissioned.
Having two Ukranian Navel vessels trying to force through a Russian blockade is a good place to start.
If that happens, we have a mess on our hands - everyone... Putin Included.
Funny, the ussa propagada machine, aka 'MSM', hasn't mentioned a word of MIA'nuland once! Could it be, she has taken up 'hillaryious' old residence, and hasn't renew'd the 'restart`button', of sworn conjugal vows?
Perhaps if... "Fuck the EU", wasn't meant to be, [or not to be(?)] an act of missionary intercourse accomplished, but rather a brutal, and lambasting, lead-from-behind,`sodomizing for a fait` accompli dowry-blowback... as much, as that of an aborted vestigial, in the 'Anal's of USSA Foreign Policy? Hmmm...
jmo thankyou Tyler