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Obama's $3.9 Trillion Budget Predicts Fastest GDP Growth Since 2005

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Having destroyed any credibility that this budget could possibly have yesterday, President Obama has outdone himself with the predictions in this $3.9 trillion budget...

But apart from that, yeah, "nailed it"

As WSJ reports,

President Barack Obama proposed a $3.9 trillion budget package Tuesday peppered with new taxes on upper-income Americans and businesses, plus numerous spending initiatives aimed at bolstering education, research and low-income work programs.

 

The president's spending plan for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1 doesn't rest on new or lofty policy goals, reflecting a town hibernating from budget exhaustion and girding for midterm elections in November. Instead, it offers targeted and familiar proposals, including an overhaul of corporate taxes, which it says would boost job growth and make U.S. businesses more competitive.

 

...

 

Many of the proposals are likely to meet a cool reception on Capitol Hill, where both parties are preparing for November elections that could change the balance of power on Capitol Hill.

As Bloomberg adds,

President Obama proposed raising $104b over next 10 yrs in his fiscal plan for 2015 with new restrictions and taxes on multinational cos. that weren’t included in last yr’s budget.

 

* Changes would affect digital goods, deductions for “excessive” interest and so-called hybrid arrangements that can lead to income not taxed in any country, according to budget; Obama also wants to make it harder for cos. to expatriate

 

* In all, Obama’s budget wants to raise $276b over next 10 yrs from international tax changes, 75% more than it sought last yr

 

* Wants to dedicate revenue to lowering corporate tax rate to 28%

 

 

 

 

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Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:42 | 4507224 FieldingMellish
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Nothing a war can't fix.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:45 | 4507242 max2205
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The Choomwagon Budget....

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4507249 knukles
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"The Buckwheat Stops Here"

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:52 | 4507291 camaro68ss
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moar bama fones, Everybudy  in Cleveland  has a bama fone

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:58 | 4507316 nope-1004
Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:04 | 4507365 Max Hunter
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25% of GDP.. This can't miss.. They just need to keep it up for another 10 years and it will fix itself.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:21 | 4507470 LMAOLORI
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Silly me I thought people needed jobs to have growth.

 

Labor Force Participation in 2013 Lowest in 35 Years 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:55 | 4507306 Atomizer
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knukes. +1,000

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:21 | 4507461 DoChenRollingBearing
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Humor...  With 0 as our president, we need it.

knukles and Atomizer are two of our ZH gems.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:09 | 4507779 No Euros please...
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Beware of Russians bearing pins.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:42 | 4507226 Max Damage
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Just let my lad know about the debt Obama says he can have

http://artsmoothie.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/googlyeyebaby.jpg

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:51 | 4507288 Overfed
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GDP growth means little when 40%+ of GDP is parasitic government spending. Propaganda, bitchez.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:39 | 4507577 NotApplicable
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Well, somebody has to eat all of this seed corn!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:18 | 4507840 ThirdCoastSurfer
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At $4 trillion, the US Government will be the 4th largest economy unto iself and the US will remain #1 -even if it secedes from such an unholy union. 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:43 | 4507230 Space Animatoltipap
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Reality is something you create and force upon others. 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:55 | 4507304 Grande Tetons
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Many of the proposals are likely to meet a cool reception on Capitol Hill, where both parties are preparing for November elections that could change the balance of power on Capitol Hill.

A balance between two objects generally requires two objects. Here, Capitol Hill is a unique cesspool of like minded vermin that has no counter balance. 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:07 | 4507392 NotApplicable
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Why? Because there's NEVER been such a thing as an "informed voter."

Anybody with any sense recognizes the only logical choice is NOTA.

Meanwhile 100M sheeple decide the flavor of the next raping.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:43 | 4507231 Dr. Engali
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Budget? WTF is a budget?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:53 | 4507295 furgheddubouddit
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plus numerous spending initiatives

Yeah, because that's just what a government running deficits in excess of $600 billion a year needs - more spending initiatives.

Oh well......there goes the taper........

 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:26 | 4507496 Winston Churchill
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$5.8 trillion a year on a GAAP basis.

Just a slight $5.2 tn difference between friends.

Its only fiat

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:53 | 4507298 camaro68ss
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budgets, so 2004

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:45 | 4507233 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!!!

 

May I interest you in a financial "product" of mass destruction?

Nothing has been "fixed" folks and when fraud is the status quo, possession is the law.

Of course, "mark to fantasy" accounting is still very much in play, so in a hyperinflationary environment, the accounting may work out in his favor.

hedge accordingly.

 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:57 | 4507318 Theta_Burn
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Oh..

My takeaway was that ACA and MyRa were being factored in

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:21 | 4507469 Crash Overide
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All of this is this one big joke.

 

on us...  :(

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4507243 Smegley Wanxalot
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Did that idiot Oblowhard click the heels on his Ruby Red Shoes while delivering this budget?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:50 | 4507281 HoofHearted
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No, but he produced his pet unicorn for the presser. And the unicorn immediately started shitting Skittles. You should have been there.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:09 | 4507401 NotApplicable
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Taste the rainbow!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:16 | 4507432 Fish Gone Bad
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That is some seriously funny shit.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:45 | 4507244 bsdetector
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Where will the accountability be if this growth doesn't materialize. More green shoots BS?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:18 | 4507441 Renewable Life
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Dont worry CNBC has it all under control!!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4507246 firstdivision
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In otherwords, Obama is pricing in rampant inflation from the Fed's 'experiment'.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4507247 Seasmoke
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LIE. PAPER OVER. LIE. PAPER OVER. LIE. PAPER OVER. SQUIRREL !

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4507252 IridiumRebel
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A unicorn salad in every pot!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:47 | 4507258 knukles
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Hah!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:47 | 4507255 SDRII
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To the moon...

The U.S. guided-missile cruiser USS Ramage, an aircraft carrier and the 6th Fleet have raised anchor off the coast of Greece and are reportedly headed for the Black Sea. The U.S. ships are expected to pass through the Dardanelle Strait on Friday. According to the Montreux Convention signed in 1936, the passage of aircraft carriers through the Turkish straits is prohibited

Ukraine crisis: No solution is in sight, says German foreign minister Steinmeier

Obama holding high level meeting on Ukraine with top military advisers, says official

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:55 | 4507321 bsdetector
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Remember this 1988 incident in the Black Sea?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQhnXrWbg

Sailing there is like putting a ship in a bottle. Its stoopid.

How about this one, its even better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SME4w037FgA

 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:00 | 4507335 BandGap
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I'm no miltary genius, but I wouldn't put an aircraft carrier in a confined area like that. No where to run, no where to hide.

Fuck, doesn't NATO have strike aircraft a few hundred miles off. Why the fuck would you need an aircraft carrier?

 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:19 | 4507454 spellbound
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maybe we're supposed to lose this one...by design

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:20 | 4507464 Renewable Life
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Because these fools don't care about military tactics, its all about who has the BIGGEST DICK now, and I hope the "first black prez" can live up to the mythology, because that Russian bulldog is looking and feeling pretty confident, he does!!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:33 | 4507955 Joe A
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Or it is on route to Syria...

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:47 | 4507256 krispkritter
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GDP=Global Debt Percentage... 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:49 | 4507270 yogibear
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What budget? There is no debt limit. Obama can spend as much as he wants before the election. He can double spending if he wanted to so more democrats get elected.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:49 | 4507274 PAWNMAN
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Getting tired of waiting for this sucker to blow. Wake me up when the S&P is under 666 and Gold over $2000.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:50 | 4507282 Caveman93
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It can hit you like a boulder, when you finally understand how bad things are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkivn_3zn5I&list=WL9AC40DFE8E9F273D 

A Warning we never listened to. Never seen him tear up like this. I feel his pain.....we all do or will soon.

 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:56 | 4507313 Overfed
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Money isn't the root of all evil. Bullshit fiat money conjured up out of thin air and loaned at interest is the root of all evil.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:57 | 4507320 Caveman93
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+1000

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:29 | 4507918 Cthonic
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The lack of access to the Fed window is the root of all evil.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:50 | 4507283 kenezen
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Failure!

The President has now, with this budget, been completely honest with the citizens. This is unabashedly a Socialistic Budget. It goes unashamedly into all aspects of citizens lives where Jefferson said States should go while he warned about the grave dangers of Federal Government!

Admittedly the Republicans have offered a weaker but, still incredibly Socialistic response of their own. However it pales in comparison to the Presidents vision of an all compassing all powerful government here at home while paying for it with historic weakness abroad. There can be no more pretense as we fall into this seemingly inevitable trap spoken of as the gravest danger by Jefferson well over 200 years ago. SAD. (There was hope that some capitalists would appear)

This path began with Wilson was ratified by F. Roosevelt, pushed by Nixon verified by Carter and accelerated by Bush. This president has pushed us over the edge. Economic and Social failure is now assured. hedgemastermb.blogspot.com

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:20 | 4507859 RevRex
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It's amazing how many people here still say both parties are the same. Sheer stupidity. Neither party is for the working stiff, but to say both parties are the same is idiocy.

 

WHY doesn't the media treat both parties the same if both parties are the same?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:35 | 4507948 Ghordius
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can't really answer your question. it's as good as mine: why does a country like the US still use such an antiquated electoral system? one that guarantees that there are only two major parties? which means that a party dies only all... 100 years?

looked from the outside, Americans choose their residence according to the incumbent congressman, who then redistricts if necessary

again, when was the last time the US Constitution was amended? you can say whatever you want about the EU, but... we are Founding Fathers, in comparison (of a confederation, the way it's going). And we have 100+ parties...

hell, the UK has a similarly oldfashioned "winner takes all" electoral system and still manages to have several parties, so you can't even blame all on the system

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:52 | 4507290 Lendo
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And we'll spend 4 Trillion..

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:54 | 4507301 Rising Sun
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Obama + nicer words  = Putin

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:54 | 4507303 TrumpXVI
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Zero, "Sticks the landing" once again!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:57 | 4507319 dirtbagger
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Why should anyone care what budget any President proposes.   Spending and budgeting is the constitution domain of Congress.   Would be nice if these 435 dysfunctional idiots could get off their overpaid and underworked asses and put a budget together.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:22 | 4507475 spellbound
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their job is to be paid, useful idiots with lots of skeletons in their closets so they can remain subserviant, and they know it

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:57 | 4507322 ebworthen
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The Skittle-shitting Unicorn herd is on it's way, just now galloping over the top of the rainbow!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:01 | 4507339 TrustWho
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Obama, please move the White House to Hawaii and sever all communication lines to the world.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:04 | 4507356 Yen Cross
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     That makes sense with CL pushing the $105.00 barrier yesterday, and personal spending stretched to recent highs.

   Oh, and let's not forget "Okillya Care" costs, and the Drought(higher food costs) for good measure. BTFATH!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:04 | 4507360 asscannon101
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Choom. Its 'whats for dinner'!

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:06 | 4507382 ncdirtdigger
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I want what he's smokin'.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:18 | 4507446 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Bigger than the GDP of Germany.  Yeah..that make sense.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:33 | 4507532 alfred b.
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 WAIT....I think I'm gonna need my rose-colored glasses to read this!!

    

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:37 | 4507554 buzzsaw99
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Since his people create the GDP numbers I wouldn't be surprised.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:49 | 4507643 Binko
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I have this mental arithmetic I do when I see big numbers like $3.9 trillion.

Basically there are roughly 333 million citizens in America. So if the Government spends $1 Billion on something that's three bucks from each citizen. Spending $1 Trillion is $3,000 from each citizen.

So a $3.9 trillion budget is pushing $12,000 per citizen or $48,000 for a family of four. This is insane. A family of four can live off of $48,000 easily.

Basically this means THE ENTIRE COUNTRY COULD LIVE ENTIRELY OFF THE FEDERAL BUDGET.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:24 | 4507861 Cthonic
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317,493,000 residents -> $12,300 per peon

211,731,000 eligible voters -> $18,400 per petitioner

154,794,000 members of the workforce -> $25,200 per tax donkey

 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:54 | 4507668 earnulf
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Yeah, this ends well, considering the FY2009 budget missed revenue projections by 700 BIllion dollars....Guess we'll see 20 Trillion easily by 2020, heck might even see 21 o 22 Trillion if interest rates go back to "normal"

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 13:57 | 4507692 adonisdemilo
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The old USSR used to make predictions about the economy, I think they called them 10 year plans and if the predictions didn't happen then at least the grave diggers were kept busy.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:18 | 4507834 RevRex
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It's Bush's fault

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:34 | 4507959 q99x2
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Green Shoots are bad for business?

Students need Yellen to go ahead and up their FAFSA.

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:35 | 4507968 drendebe10
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Only the moronic sheeple would buy this baloney... but what else would u expect from such an arrogant, narcissistic pathological lying ilegal alien kenyan muslim sociopathic ignoramous only interested in maintaining it and its wookie's grand imperial life style.... 

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 14:40 | 4508001 Bryan
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"Encouraging signs" is the new "green shoots"?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 15:50 | 4508494 f16hoser
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I never saw a Budget that could not be Printed into the Black! "Hey Everybody, We're All Gonna Get Laid!!!"

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