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"Behind The Kiev Snipers It Was Somebody From The New Coalition" - A Stunning New Leak Released

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The last time a leaked phone call out of Ukraine was released about a month ago ostensibly by the Russian NSA equivalent, one between US assistant sec state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, it was revealed that the real puppet masters behind the Maidan movement, and the true instigators of the Ukraine "revolution" were none other than the "developed" world superpowers, lead by the US. Also revealed were tensions between the US and EU strategies on how to overthrow the current government, culminating with the infamous "Fuck the EU." Needless to say the US, which implicitly confirmed the recording, was angry at Russia and accused it of using dirty tricks.

That's ironic, because when it comes to "dirty tricks" what is about to be presented, blows the top off anything Russia may or has done to date.

Earlier today an even more shocking recording has been "leaked" this time one between the always concerned about human rights EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet, in which it is revealed on tape that all those photos of horrifying deaths of Ukrainians by snipers during the last days of the Median stand off, were in fact caused not by Snipers controlled by Yanukovich, but that the snipers shot at both protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders!


Here is the key exchange, just after 8 minutes into the conversation :

Paet: "All the evidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides, policemen and people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides. ... Some photos that showed it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it is really disturbing that now the new coalition they don't want to investigate what exactly happened. So there is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition."

Ashton: "I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh."

Paet: "It already discreditates (sic) this new coalition."

So first US orchestrates the Kiev overthrow, and now the new "leaders" of Ukraine are allegedly found to have fired against their own people - the same provocation they subsequently used to run Yanukovich out of the country and install a pro-Western puppet government. Of course, said pro-Western coalition has not been discreditated (sic) because Ms. Ashton has sternly refused to investigate, knowing quite well how horribly this would reflect on the new Ukraine "leadership" -  a government which shot its own people to fabricate the pretext under which it rose to power.

Is it any wonder then that Russia has responded the way it has?

As for at least one of the affected parties, Estonia, it has just confirmed the authenticity of the recording, and the ministry of foreign affairs has organized a press conference to answer media questions today at 5 pm. From the Valisministeerium:

No. 84-E Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton uploaded to the Internet today, a phone call is authentic.

 

Paet and Ashton conversation took place on 26 February, following Estonia's Foreign Minister's visit to Ukraine, and immediately after the end of the street violence.

 

Foreign Minister Paet communicate what he had said about the meetings held in Kiev last day and expressed concern about the situation.

 

"It is extremely regrettable that such an interception is occurring at all""said Paet., Including its call for today's photos are not random," he added.

Yes, it is truly regrettable that the people know the truth.

Full leaked recording below:

 

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Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:46 | 4512151 Jack Burton
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That Albright whore also said that "It is unfair that Russia should be blessed with so much. So many resources and so much land". Basically that cunt laid out the plan, get Russia and use it's people as cheap labor to stip mine the place for the US corporate bottom line. All humans are under assault by the giant financial and corporate madmen. They are not free market capitalists, they are using power and military over us all to strip mine all humanity.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:49 | 4512476 Independent
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I hope that the day it looks like they might accomplish what they want the guy in charge of the nuclear button in Russia decides to make it a glowing winter for everyone.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:28 | 4512679 SDShack
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It's the sociopath way...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:07 | 4512855 Hephaestus
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Putin will hit the master reset button before Russia bows to WallStreet.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:18 | 4513189 KickIce
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Yet another old person who could make the world a better place simply by kicking the bucket.

Add her to Soros, Rockefeller, Buffet and Kissinger.

Hold up, I'm going to check for drones.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:38 | 4515822 thestarl
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 Same bitch who thought that the sanctions against Iraq in the nineties that led to the deaths of so many infants was worth it.Its just a game to these fuckers.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:54 | 4512196 silvermail
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Terrorism and murder, have become the main tools of U.S. foreign policy.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:07 | 4512256 Anusocracy
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For the past 200+ years.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:12 | 4512883 PhilofOz
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Dr Paul Craig Roberts, “No greater evil exists than the government of the United States.”

This should go down as one of the great quotes of 2014.

 

http://thenewsdoctors.com/the-end-could-be-nearer-than-you-think/

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:35 | 4513290 geno-econ
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Madeline Albright is another one who surprisingly found her roots after she became Sec of State. By then all the damage was done.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:33 | 4514111 Lost Word
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Her Jewish roots?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:01 | 4513458 Rafferty
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US foreign policy IS evil.  But it should not be confused or equated with what the American people want.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:04 | 4513470 Dugald
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Now you see why Homeland Security bought all that ammo....

for sniper use on you......

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:22 | 4514693 Rusty Loads
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"School of the Americas"

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:12 | 4515085 Antifaschistische
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Putin's CHECKMATE move...

"Mr. Obama, would you like to preview the other 174 recorded phone conversations we have on this subject?"

(hypothetical of course, the actual number is probably much higher)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:38 | 4515474 newdoobie
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nope- 1004

+ 1000 (just quoted your comment)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 22:16 | 4523809 inca
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Paul Craig Roberts —The Looting Of Ukraine Has Begun.

 


This supporter of the Ukraine joining the EU has received her reward:
a 50% cut in her pension.

According to a report in Kommersant-Ukraine, the finance ministry of Washington’s stooges in Kiev who are pretending to be a government has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut Ukrainian pensions from $160 to $80 so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine’s poor.

http://www.degaray.com/?p=4040

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:25 | 4511642 i-dog
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These tactics go back to Operation Gladio from the 1960s and 70s. The boyz behind the curtain have decided that the muzzie extremists (Operation Gladio B) can no longer be relied upon to overturn a 'troublesome leader' (as in Syria), so they are reverting back to plan A, the original Gladio: use fascist mobs to install an oligarch crony.

CIA and their hidden Khazar puppet masters writ large all over this.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:46 | 4511810 CuttingEdge
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Totally orchestrated by those insidious vermin to coincide with, and to trash Russia's Olypmics (along with all the US media tried to do in that regard).

Hope the fuckers burn, come the day.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:58 | 4511889 hungarianboy
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Well this is really a big issue.

In the meantime, EU approved 11 Billion to Ukraine new government ( Maffia/terrorists ) it seems. I don't want war, but I would be happy if Russia takes over Ukraine until things settle down. If possible without violence. Ohw and Hungary could also take back a part of what Ukraine took from hungary. Let Putin make a good deal with Hungary and secure the oil and gas stream towards Europe if they wanted it. Can't be that difficult.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:03 | 4513466 Rafferty
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Sounds like a plan!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:18 | 4512018 KickIce
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They're still doing it, watched CNN last night and they were continuously ragging Putin.  One even reported that Putin's meddling was a sign of weakness.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:23 | 4513838 turnoffthewater
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So what. But you knew that when you watched it. So why are you are still paying your cable bill and supporting CNN? Stop feeding the beast. But thanks for the confirmation of their track record.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:08 | 4514000 KickIce
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I can't stomach it for long but at least when I talk to family and friends I know what they've been subjected to.  But yeah, I figured I would get a bunch of down arrows just for watching.  :)

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:07 | 4511955 Hammurabi
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on this site there is agents from the dominant group writing and watching the comments, it can be any one of you.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:21 | 4512325 ProtectiveFather
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I bet it's you. Your reverse-reverse-reverse psychology isn't fooling anyone.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:30 | 4512686 Oldballplayer
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Wait , what?  I am all turned around.  Who is the commie?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:10 | 4512869 Hephaestus
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He's right there between WAIT and WHAT. Quick squirrel !

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:37 | 4512112 Kirk2NCC1701
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Hence the support for the local, kindred Khazar oligarchs, whom they're trying to install into top levels of power (regional Governors).  Makes sense.

The "preponderance of evidence" mounts, when the US and other Western MSM fail to cover the Nazi/Fascist aspects of the Coup leaders.  If they're willing to overlook and actively suppress these fascist and antisemitic facts, then you know that they will make a "sacrifice" play in their chess game.

The blatant and open brazenness of the Neocon-NWO crowd is amazing.

p.s. If you're wondering when there will be an American Spring, you don't have to:  No American Spring as long as we have the King Dollar, the Petro-Dollar to allow QE+, and EBTs for keeping the masses docile.   Plan accordingly.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:05 | 4512249 pods
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And if EBT stops working, <shudder>

pods

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:35 | 4512392 DaddyO
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This Summer bitchez...

DaddyO

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:47 | 4513662 Rafferty
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+100 green ones.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:31 | 4513865 trader1
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how do you reconcile your narrative with 9/11?

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:15 | 4511625 Ignatius
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Operation Gladio and the 'strategy of tension':  http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-582-tom-secker-on-operation-gladio/

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:25 | 4511736 i-dog
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This outstanding interview explains the differences between Gladio and Gladio B. It's as exciting as a thriller (and there are 5 other parts on the same site):

http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-595-sibel-edmonds-on-nato-terrorism-911-and-drug-running/

 

[edit] Here's a link to all 6 parts. But ignore her conclusion as to who's at the top of the pyramid...she really doesn't know who the real string pullers are (which is probably why she's still alive).

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:49 | 4512167 Ignatius
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"...she really doesn't know who the real string pullers are..."

You forget the punchline?  Your view?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:06 | 4512252 i-dog
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Quite often in the past when I've stated it, Tyler has deleted my posts. So I prefer to just detail [my understanding of] their strategies and give hints to provoke critical thinking. Btw, your avatar provides one good hint.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:22 | 4512331 Future Jim
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Youv've mentioned Khazars, but Khazars are like 98% of all Jewish people aren't they, so that can't be right.

You've mentioned Jesuits, but they are at the top?

Don't you have some links to share?

Don't you have your own blog?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:59 | 4512536 emersonreturn
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i-dog

 

....tyler has deleted my posts.  doesn't that contradict the basic rules of fight club?  shouldn't we through argument be able to allow free discourse?  please, i-dog, could you outline the undertow of what's allowed?  i ask this sincerely, as i regret the dismissal of francis.  i feel sometimes like tyler has put parental control on the internet, and while i am an avid ZHer and read it wholeheartedly to learn and broaden my view, i regret this imposed delete function.  

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:05 | 4512562 Flakmeister
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-deleted posts-

A cornerstone of any good conspiracy theory... i-Dog is clearly getting too close to the truth and even ZH is in on it now...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:41 | 4512751 trader1
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are posters too paranoid?

confusing "deleted" posts with the periodic archiving of posts (thus making them "appear deleted" when using the ZH search function)?

 

every user post can easily be searched using the following generic query in google:

 

"insert name of poster here inside the quotation marks" site:zerohedge.com

 

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:24 | 4513216 Urban Redneck
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Specific posts are deleted on rare occasion- I seem to average about 1 per year among the thousands of posts, but not for anything trivial like the dog is suggesting.

Far more common is that someone's account is deleted, not just disabled, and that seems to send replies to the offending poster's original post off into digital oblivion.

There's no harm in him stating his thesis, what's the worst that will happen- one of the Tyler's might delete the post...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:43 | 4513910 trader1
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i'm not vain enough to check if any of my posts have been deleted.

but, there's always a technical reason, if you're willing to dig for answers.  

nothing happens by accident.  

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:27 | 4514041 Urban Redneck
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I'm talking about deleting a specific series of posts in near real-time from the middle of a thread. Technology doesn't explain that. At a minimum, other parts thread attached to an article would also be impacted if the underlying reason was technical.

As to the ad hominem- fuck yourself. I don't like writing the same shit twice, and since I don't get paid for posting, I'm not of the mind to spend vast amounts of time searching the vast internet for hard to find links, so it's (usually) easier to find my original post and CTRL-C/CTRL-P, but there is a perceptible pattern the instances where I can't do so- and they tend to involve what was originally troll spanking.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:55 | 4515671 trader1
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the ad hom was not intentional.  and now that i see it in context, i find it quite funny.  

stop taking everything so seriously.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:51 | 4513675 Rafferty
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When Tyler(s) want to IPO ZH or sell it toBezos or whatever such little favors will be remembered.  Understandable, up to a point.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:36 | 4512100 Tom_333
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Who could forget it ?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:49 | 4514529 chemystical
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"He calls his troops “the Blue Helmets of Maidan,” but brown is the color of the headgear worn by Delta — the nom de guerre of the commander of a Jewish-led militia force that participated in the Ukrainian revolution. Under his helmet, he also wears a kippah.

Delta, a Ukraine-born former soldier in the Israel Defense Forces, spoke to JTA Thursday on condition of anonymity. He explained how he came to use combat skills he acquired in the Shu’alei Shimshon reconnaissance battalion of the Givati infantry brigade to rise through the ranks of Kiev’s street fighters. He has headed a force of 40 men and women — including several fellow IDF veterans — in violent clashes with government forces."

"...in violent clashes with government forces..."  ...and possibly with other, ahem, protestors.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114
 

quelle suprise.  'I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on here' and other usual suspects

 

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:56 | 4514564 Harrison
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It's really sad to see how far down the toilet ZH has gone with regard to conspiracy theories.

The early photos of protesters being murdered by snipers also showed photos of the bullets recovered from protesters' bodies, said bullets being of a type that were made by a government armory and that were not available outside of the (at the time Yanukovych-controlled) police and military.

It's not really that fucking difficult to remember these things, and to realize that these "ZOMFG FALSE FLAG!!!" articles are just plants by the Russians.

But if ZH wants to keep repeating obvious lies, you may as well go ahead with the "NSA did nothing wrong and followed the law" line as well. :-/

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:01 | 4511544 zerozulu
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One day this all will come back to haunt. Karma is a bitch.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:39 | 4511760 Rory_Breaker
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You don't say..

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:31 | 4511706 Harbanger
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Here comes the old school European labeling system again, with Neo-Nazis socialists labeled right wing and KGB commies labeled left wing.  Many Ukranian Nationalists in Kiev are indeed Neo-Nazi and are backed by the NATO Socialists. 

US Conservatives/constitutionalists are ideologically opposed to either side as they are both socialist/statist but some are being duped into taking the side of Obama because they automatically lean against people holding signs of Stalin and Lenin.  Both sides in the fight are against liberty.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:35 | 4512399 Ghordius
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your labeling system has two types of hats. the white ones are conservatives, the black ones are "the rest"

meanwhile, "KGB commies"? seriously? as mislabeled as "NATO Socialists"

our labeling system is quite understandable if you just have a cursive look at our political landscape and the over hundred parties in there

conservatives. which, when they go bad, become fascist

socialists. which, when they go bad, become communist

liberals. which, when they go bad, become... we have no word yet. but they push for globalization

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:52 | 4512495 Champie
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"liberals. which, when they go bad, become... we have no word yet. but they push for globalization"

I'll take a stab at this...

They call themselves Communitarians

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:15 | 4512611 Ghordius
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what is this, a predilection for political murkyness? a liberal gone bad is one that pushes for the abolition of every kind of border. free flow of capital and goods, and consequences be damned. one that is always for capital, and always against labour. one that thinks that money ought to buy you a better kind of justice. one that thinks that local consequences are for the locals... and moves away

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:18 | 4513538 Dugald
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Liberal, indeed they are....and always to themselves.....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:19 | 4513545 Poor Grogman
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The undermining of language is extremely important in the red vs blue sheeple control game.

The modern "political spectrum" is a complete optical illusion.

The correct way to look at the political spectrum is incredibly simple.

Left. ------- Right
More .gov. ------- Less .gov
Tyranny. ------- liberty

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:53 | 4513686 Rafferty
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Yes, Orwell taught us that.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:42 | 4515935 Ghordius
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"the red vs blue sheeple control game" - as you call it - is a direct result of the American electoral system

here we are talking about europe, where, particularly on the continent, proportional systems are the norm, which leads to more parties and more labels

the minister that called Ashton - Urmas Paet - is, for example, a member of a liberal party called Reform Party. there are six major parties in Estonia

to come back to his call, all he said is that the very coalition that was formed against Yanukowitsch has some allegedly very bad apples of the fascist bent

fact is that politics makes strange bedfellows

fact is that in Ukraine you will find fascists, ultra-nationalists, etc

fact is that fascists in Europe work together - when they aren't fighting each other over national borders

fact is that fascists did group into "stay-behind" organizations in the past, and did get help for this eventuality of the Cold War era

fact is that this is all - there is no clear link to any other org, and it would not be the first time that fascist (or, if you prefer, neo-nazi, or far-right, or ultra-nationalist) organizations stirred extra trouble in order to further their goal. fascists believe in action, and approve of violent action

fact is that our european (continental) political landscape is more diverse, and needs, for comprehension, our "classical" labeling system

further facts are that Ukrainian nationalists stirred trouble by trashing a local language law, and that Ukraine is not a NATO country and is not in the EU

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:58 | 4515947 GetZeeGold
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So......who DIDN'T vote the NDAA again?

 

Red is blue......blue is red.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:35 | 4511733 Mad_max
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You mean the CIA? they did this before in Taksim square in 1977.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:59 | 4512540 Independent
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Not just there they have a the same sick serial killer sniper that likes to do heat shots on beautiful young girls, same thing in Iran, Venezuela, and in one of those Central Asian republics, the modus operandi is that nothing inflames public passion more than when a beautiful girl gets shot and killed.  Even in Maidan that medical worker cutie was shot in the neck. I guess he missed on that one, she survived, but these stories always get played real prominently.  No babushkas ever get shot in all these incidents, guess the guy loves his grandmother but hates the pretty girls cause they always turned him down.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:59 | 4511895 Againstthelie
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This shouldn't get buried in the comments:

Just a few facts:

Klitschko met in November with the Chabad-Lubawitsch extremists: http://tinyurl.com/osvczqy

 

Klitschkos seem to be crypto-jews: http://tinyurl.com/ncrgu79

But it gets better, much better (and bear in mind, this information only becomes available thanks to the internet, you would NEVER read it, if only mainstream media would be your only source):

Iranian Press-TV was the first who broke the news: a Jew was the leader of a Maidan Ukrainian "nationalist" group. The Iranians report, that he was born in Ukraine, emigrated to Israel, served in the Israel army and then returned. Press TV also reported that an Israeli tycoon was financially supporting Ukrainian nationalistic oposition.

It's only Press TV, right?

Wrong!

The "German" FAZ - a Zionist mainstream newspaper - brought an interesting article called "The Jewish commander of the Maidan": http://tinyurl.com/ng7l3v7

The commander came back to Ukraine, made career in the banking sector, is wearing a kippa, holds the Sabbat and says that he was since the beginning with three or for other Jews at the Maidan.

He also says, that not few Jews have returned to Ukraine after they spent some time in Israel.

But the author of the article also spoke with another Jew, Josef Sissels, head of the Ukrainian Jewish community and vice president of the World Jewish Congress. Sissels claims, that Antisemitism was no big problem anymore among Ukrainian nationalists. Sissels loses no words about certain attacks on Synagogues and Jews in the last days and weeks.

Sissels sais, that Neo-nazis were allies of the Ukrainian Jews agains the Russians. Since Sissels is talking for the WJC he is talking about the interests of Israel.

Nuland, the one with the leaked "Fuck the EU"-phonecall, is the wife of Zionist extremist and founder of zionist lobbyorganisation PNAC, Robert Kagan, one of the main lobby groups behind the war against Iraq.

Kagan and his Zionist friends also founded the "The Foreign Policy Initiative" which lobbied for US bombing of Syria and Iran.

But there's more:

Strange "Urkainian" "nationalists":

The leader of UNA-UNSO, Andriy Shkil, ten years ago was adviser of Julia Tymoshenko. During the "orange revolution" UNA-UNSO supported the pro-NATO candidate Wiktor Juschtschenko against the pro-russian Janukowytsch. Members of UNA-UNSO were the security personnel of Tymoshenko on the place of independnence in Kiev.

 

Delta, a Ukraine-born former soldier in the Israel Defense Forces, spoke to JTA Thursday on condition of anonymity. He explained how he came to use combat skills he acquired in the Shu’alei Shimshon reconnaissance battalion of the Givati infantry brigade to rise through the ranks of Kiev’s street fighters.

He has headed a force of 40 men and women — including several fellow IDF veterans — in violent clashes with government forces.

http://tinyurl.com/oamxk4c

 

It should be clear, who the force is, that was shooting at both sides to make them clash.

Well, it's only cattle anyway, isn't it?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:00 | 4512228 disabledvet
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Dude...even if true there's nothing that can be done.

Governments are not in control of the situation to begin with.
What you say is irrational.

Nor are Governments calling for trying to get in control of the situation actually.
In fact Governments are DESTABILIZING the situation.
That's the conspiracy FACT not fiction.

"Welcome to the Ukraine sub-routine."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:17 | 4513183 Divided States ...
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Againstthelie = please check out msg 4485993

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:02 | 4513731 Againstthelie
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I can't find it. Do you have a link?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:16 | 4512296 toothpicker
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Who could possibly downvote this? Detailed and useful information, backed up with external links

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:59 | 4513717 Rafferty
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Who could possibly downvote this?

 

Paid hasbaras.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:08 | 4512576 general ambivalent
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How many of the neo-nazis seem to be Jewish? I notice Arseniy Yatsenyuk is.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:19 | 4512629 Frostfan1
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Exactly.  The people commenting are batshit crazy.  Now Nazis are Jews.  Only at ZH!!!!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:38 | 4512731 Lost Word
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No, but some Jews were Nazis or are Nazis,

or supported Nazis.

Persecute the Jews so the Jews could be given a homeland in Palestine.

Almost like a False Flag attack,

to gain the more important purpose.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:20 | 4512031 ChanceIs
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New PCR on Ukraine - just out today, 3/5:

For example, Martin’s denunciation of Russia for “invading” Ukraine is based on Western propaganda that Russia sent 16,000 troops to occupy Crimea. The fact of the matter is that those 16,000 Russian troops have been in Crimea since the 1990s. Under the Russian-Ukrainian agreement, Russia has the right to base 25,000 troops in Crimea.

Apparently, neither Abby Martin nor Glenn Greenwald, two intelligent and aware people, knew this fact. Washington’s propaganda is so pervasive that two of our best reporters were victimized by it.

As I have written several times in my columns, Washington organized the coup in Ukraine in order to promote its world hegemony by capturing Ukraine for NATO and putting US missile bases on Russia’s border in order to degrade Russia’s nuclear deterrent and force Russia to accept Washington’s hegemony.

Russia has done nothing but respond in a very low-key way to a major strategic threat orchestrated by Washington.

 

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/05/propaganda-rules-news-paul-cr...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:29 | 4512065 john39
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I think Abby Martin does a pretty good job, but understand that she is refusing RT's request that she travel to Crimea herself to report the facts first hand.  That strikes me as odd.  why not go and learn first hand, and report your opinions either way?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:15 | 4512894 mc225
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whether by design or mistake, abby has always been disinfo or limited hangout. she wears some hot outfits though. sometimes there are pokies.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:51 | 4512182 Jack Burton
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Abby will soon learn that she made a huge fucking mistake based on lies. Now she will have to turn on her employer and become anothe MSM mouth piece liar. Too bad.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:20 | 4512918 Son of Captain Nemo
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Keep in mind that RT is a "mix" that is heavily funded owned and operated out of the New York /Washington click and London...

On Abby?  Congratulations on destroying what would have been a promising career.  But I would put "money" on it that one of the editors with sway in D.C. gave her instructions.  None of these cue card readers the ones with half a brain that have clue have that much autonomy -even the Brokaw's (a.ka. Franlkin scandal), Uncle Walter (Vietnam) and Edward R. ended up taking the money rather than "fighting the good fight"
...  Knowing what some of them know or knew like the Dan Rather's had they chosen to go off the reservation completely they'd be retired in the permanent "way".

Very disappointing indeed.  Thanks for the post on this.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:04 | 4513745 Rafferty
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A latter day Judith Miller?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:07 | 4512574 Volkodav
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Abby is kinda nuts.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:36 | 4512717 general ambivalent
Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:22 | 4512922 Son of Captain Nemo
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+100

Great read thank you!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:04 | 4512245 Tim_
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The jews are responsible for the turmoil in Ukraine.


Despite calls for neutrality in Ukraine protests, young Jews are on the front lines

"Despite calls by Jewish leaders to remain neutral, young Jews have been on the front lines of protests against Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich."

"Alexandra Oleynikova, a young Jewish activist involved in organizing Limmud conferences, told [The Jerusalem Post] that while some Jews stayed away out of fear, others had flocked to Maidan."

"These Jewish protesters, she said, 'stand there nights and days; they really live there now and they help people who come to find accommodations. They bring food and they collect money.'"

"Some young Ukrainian Jews who work for international organizations such as JDC, Hillel and Limmud are 'really active' in offering support as well as 'organizing the barricades,' Oleynikova said."

"On November 30, when government forces staged a massive push against the barricades, attacking and beating protesters, she said, 'my friends were on the front lines of the fighting against the troops.'"

"Reading about the protests on Facebook and seeing anti-Semitic comments is different from the reality on the ground, Oleynikova added."


Israeli ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports

"According to reports, the unnamed Israeli commands a group of 20 Ukrainian militants."

"Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev."

"Meanwhile, Ukrainian media said that an Israeli tycoon provides financial support to the opposition in Ukraine, adding that Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency is one of the instigators of the unrest in the country."


Victoria Nuland spoke at the National Press Club on December 13, 2013 - Video

Victoria Nuland (jew) admitted that the US government has spent over five billion dollars to subvert the Ukrainian government.


The ex-Israeli soldier who led a Kiev fighting unit

"'Delta' has headed 'the Blue Helmets of Maidan' of 40 men and women - including several IDF veterans - in violent clashes with government forces."

"He calls his troops 'the Blue Helmets of Maidan,' but brown is the color of the headgear worn by Delta — the nom de guerre of the commander of a Jewish-led militia force that participated in the Ukrainian revolution. Under his helmet, he also wears a kippah."

"'I don’t belong [to Svoboda], but I take orders from their team. They know I’m Israeli, Jewish and an ex-IDF soldier. They call me 'brother,'' he said. 'What they’re saying about Svoboda is exaggerated, I know this for a fact. I don’t like them because they’re inconsistent, not because of [any] anti-Semitism issue.'"

"But Delta says the Kremlin is using the anti-Semitism card falsely to delegitimize the Ukrainian revolution, which is distancing Ukraine from Russia’s sphere of influence."

"'It’s bullshit. I never saw any expression of anti-Semitism during the protests, and the claims to the contrary were part of the reason I joined the movement. We’re trying to show that Jews care,' he said."


The jews shot the protesters, so they could harvest their organs.

"But Delta has another, more ambitious, project: He and Azman are organizing the airborne evacuation of seriously wounded protesters — none of them Jewish — for critical operations in Israel. One of the patients, a 19-year-old woman, was wounded at Institutskaya by a bullet that penetrated her eye and is lodged inside her brain, according to Delta. Azman says he hopes the plane of 17 patients will take off next week, with funding from private donors and with help from Ukraine’s ambassador to Israel."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:41 | 4512879 Flakmeister
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Wow...

Is there a much of a waiting list for a new kidney?

My babushka is getting tired of her dialysis and I would like to help her....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:12 | 4513166 Tim_
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Israeli butchers harvesting corneas in Haiti - Video


Israel admits to organ thefts

"Israel has admitted that it harvested organs from the dead bodies of Palestinians and Israelis in the 1990s, without permission from their families."

"The admission follows the release of an interview with Jehuda Hiss, the former head of Israel's forensic institute, in which he said that workers at the institute had harvested skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from Israelis, Palestinians and foreign workers."

"In the interview, which was conducted in 2000 when Hiss was head of Tel Aviv's Abu Kabir forensic institute, he said: 'We started to harvest corneas ... Whatever was done was highly informal. No permission was asked from the family.'"

"During his interview with Scheper-Hughes, Hiss said that the eyelids of bodies were glued shut to prevent the removal of corneas being found out."


"Our sons are plundered of their organs"

"Palestinians accuse the Israel Defense Forces of taking organs from their victims. Donald Boström writes about an international organ trafficking scandal – and about the time he saw the cut-up dead body of a nineteen-year old Palestinian."

"You could call me a 'matchmaker', said Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, from Brooklyn, USA, in a secret recording with an FBI-agent whom he believed to be a client."

"Rosenbaum’s matchmaking had nothing to do with romance. It was all about buying and selling kidneys from Israel on the black market."

"Rabbis, politicians and trusted civil servants had for years been involved in money laundering and illegal organ-trade."

"On the question of how many organs he has sold Rosenbaum replies: 'Quite a lot. And I have never failed,' he boasts. The business has been running for quite some time."

"Israel has repeatedly been under fire for its unethical ways of dealing with organs and transplants. France was among the countries that ceased organ collaboration with Israel in the nineties. Jerusalem Post wrote that 'the rest of the European countries are expected to follow France’s example shortly.'"

"At a conference in 2003 it was shown that Israel is the only western country with a medical profession that doesn’t condemn the illegal organ trade. The country takes no legal measures against doctors participating in the illegal business – on the contrary, chief medical officers of Israel’s big hospitals are involved in most of the illegal transplants, according to Dagens Nyheter (December 5, -03)."

"While the campaign was running, young Palestinian men started to disappear from villages in the West Bank and Gaza. After five days Israeli soldiers would bring them back dead, with their bodies ripped open."

"Talk of the bodies terrified the population of the occupied territories. There were rumors of a dramatic increase of young men disappearing, with ensuing nightly funerals of autopsied bodies."

"On several occasions I was approached by UN staff concerned about the developments. The persons contacting me said that organ theft definitely occurred but that they were prevented from doing anything about it."

"Five days earlier, on May 13, 1992, an Israeli special force had used the village’s carpentry workshop for an ambush. The person they were assigned to put out of action was Bilal Achmed Ghanan, one of the stone-throwing Palestinian youngsters who made life difficult for the Israeli soldiers."

"As Bilal was put in the grave his chest was uncovered. Suddenly it became clear to the few people present just what kind of abuse the boy had been exposed to. Bilal was not by far the first young Palestinian to be buried with a slit from his abdomen up to his chin."

"The families in the West Bank and in Gaza felt that they knew exactly what had happened: 'Our sons are used as involuntary organ donors,' relatives of Khaled from Nablus told me, as did the mother of Raed from Jenin and the uncles of Machmod and Nafes from Gaza, who had all disappeared for a number of days only to return at night, dead and autopsied."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:28 | 4513233 Flakmeister
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You forgot the Rabbis in New Jersey...

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/nj_corruption_probe_includes_f....

It is a true international conspiracy and you are clearly on top of it...

I would contact the people here

http://www.davidduke.com

and maybe they can bankroll your continued investigations...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:24 | 4513560 resurger
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WOW!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:01 | 4511514 SRSrocco
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LOOKS LIKE THE U.S. SPOOKS involved in this GEM are gonna start going the same way as the DEAD BANKERS here shortly.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:05 | 4511568 Thought Processor
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Yah.  Stay out of helicopters boys.

 

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:03 | 4511930 Herd Redirectio...
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Of course the death from helicopter crash is just a nice cover story for when you don't know what to do with bullet-riddled, half exploded corpses.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:56 | 4512810 Independent
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Tell that to the Seal Team some 30 odd guys that died in that helicopter crash in Afghanistan.  They had no protection and even the Afghan guys that shot them down said they had advance notice who and where was going to be on that helicopter and that they were amazed there was nowhere near the amount of backup as there normally would be with such an operation.  Sometimes it pays to put all the ones you want to get rid of on the same helicopter ride.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:51 | 4514213 Lost Word
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The same Seal Team that earlier had supposedly killed Bin Laden.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:06 | 4511947 BorisTheBlade
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That marks a moment when every CIA asset involved in 'Ukrainian Freedom' operation transferred to off-balance sheet item of 'Unfunded liability'. Termination of unfunded liablities to commence in 3 ... 2 ... 1 with survival rate of CIA assets on the ground dropping faster than POTUS approval rating.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:19 | 4512314 ChanceIs
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Will they be suicided or Seal Team 6ed?

I was going to quip that if no polonium was found in the corpses, then we would know that the blame was all on the West.  But given the behavior of these Keystone Cops, I wouldn't put it past them to use the radioactive tea to make it look like KGB work.

As a kid watching "Get Smart," I mistakenly took that to be fantasy.  Mel Brooks at his best.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:41 | 4511515 SoilMyselfRotten
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Yah good thinking, military action, just as we should have done when Assad 'chem'd his own people'.

Sarc on

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:03 | 4511525 AssFire
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If it were US foreign policy you would think they could pull off a bigger better false flag...I mean it is what we do. But then the world (except for the US) is getting wiser to our old tricks- they didn't even buy it when we went to all that trouble gassing those Syrians.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:37 | 4511744 dontgoforit
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It was not the U.S.  Beer Hall Putsch by the local neo's taking advantage of the efforts of the U.S. and the EU to 'nudge' Ukraine to their side.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:19 | 4511526 TeamDepends
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Finally, someone with a plan.  On a more serious note, it is rumored that that Pierre guy from Ebay is quietly funding some of these dirty deeds. http://govtslaves.info/us-government-caught-funding-coup-ukraine/

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:32 | 4511714 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Yes, I've heard the same. Search here (http://anolen.com/) for a whole lot of detail on that and many more grimy bits on this Ukrainian adventure.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:43 | 4511791 TeamDepends
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"Modern nationalist tools"-  Sweet!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:04 | 4511932 Lost Word
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Yes, Pierre of Ebay, and now simultaneously  journalist boss of NSA whistleblower journalist Glenn Greenwald allied with Snowden.

Which side is he on?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:05 | 4511557 y3maxx
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....Syrian poison gas & Kiev shooters. Just follow the trail folks...it leads straight to the Golf Course's sixth tee. Foursome includes His BH Obama and MIC leaders. the new propaganda...Russia replaces Arab terrorists as the bad guys

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:08 | 4511959 Lost Word
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A link from an earlier thread suggested that the spooks are acting against Obama's wishes.

Not the first time the spooks have acted independently of the Prez.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:10 | 4511585 Divided States ...
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Kinda like how 9/11 was an inside job to make the world sympathize with the US and target a former ally in Osama Bin Ladin. Also funny how some group of people decided to take the day off on 9/11 all together, was it some sort of Jewish holiday that day?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:24 | 4511673 Uncle Remus
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They were filming DWTS in NYC that day?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:09 | 4511972 Lost Word
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Yes, the "dancing Israeli's".

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:54 | 4512199 Jack Burton
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Local cops roghed up the dancing Israeli's badly before the US spooks could get in a rescue them and send them home to Israel. The locals were acting as true Americans, but the bigger boys act in Israel's interests, as we see. One dancing Israeli filed a law suit agsinst the local cops for abuse. Never heard if it went to court, I'm sure the spooks took care of it to make the dancing Israeli feel better about it all.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:19 | 4512312 Frostfan1
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Funny thing is I know that cop or I did many years ago.  I didn't know until I  just looked up the story.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:27 | 4512358 Frostfan1
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He's an absolute animal.  He could beat up those five guys no problem.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:41 | 4515064 TeamDepends
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The dancing BalleRahmemaninas deserved a good tenderizing, and still do.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:17 | 4512300 skwid vacuous
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DOTT - Dancing on the Truck

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:55 | 4515113 TeamDepends
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Dancing With The Squid?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:42 | 4511783 Frostfan1
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Perhaps you got names of the jews that took off?  I mean, it's been 13 years.  Surely, someone has compiled a list of the jews and the companies they worked for that took days off.   Maybe you can send a link of one of the family members that lost someone demanding an investigation into Jews taking off as compared to say some internet jerkoffs who blame Jews for cloudy weather as well as 9/11 making a baseless accusation because, oh yeah, JOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:54 | 4511858 Calmyourself
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Yeah you will not be getting that, cuz the joos have it..  Boys we got plenty of psychopaths without the Jewish contribution.  Clean up your AO and things will look up.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:10 | 4511978 SoilMyselfRotten
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Lucky Larry Silverstein sure got the heads up

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:14 | 4512000 Herd Redirectio...
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Larry Silverstein had the WTC Complex INSURED AGAINST TERRORISM (specifically) in July 2001.  Thats all you need to know, right there.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:43 | 4512130 Big Corked Boots
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"Pull it!"

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:17 | 4512901 Frostfan1
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I don't even have to look it up to know what you're saying is crap no matter how many green arrows you get.  The WTC was attacked years earlier, duh, and would have already had this type of insurance.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:59 | 4513445 Herd Redirectio...
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Actually, the green arrows do matter.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:02 | 4514290 Lost Word
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Larry Silverstein was the New owner in July 2001.

New owner, New Insurance policy.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:21 | 4512037 Frostfan1
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Thanks Calmyourself, I forgot that only jews are capable of making lists.  Oh wait.....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:16 | 4511998 Lost Word
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I have seen lists of companies and a few names of individuals that escaped 9-11 by foreknowledge.

I don't have the link, but the information exists in the internet pages.

Top name: Larry Silverstein.

 

 

My Comment in slightly wrong location for some strange reason.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:47 | 4512160 Frostfan1
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By the way, since ZH will never criticize Putin, here's some nice Russian propoganda at work with Russian TV moving an activist to four different cities to criticize the Maidans.  Now

 

http://romaninukraine.com/same-anti-maidan-actress-interviewed-in-four-different-cities/

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:26 | 4512354 Anusocracy
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Putin is not the problem right now.

The US is.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:05 | 4512847 TheReplacement
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Wrong.  Putin is a dictator and dictators are always problems.  It's just that he isn't the only problem, nor the biggest.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:13 | 4514942 Anusocracy
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Skipped by the "right now" part did ya?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:40 | 4511766 rabbitusvomitus
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Meanwhile the bubble head bleach blond on CNBS keeps-a-smilin and rolling on...nothing to see here folks, move along.

.....Most on the Z have been wondering (waiting?) on the black swan that causes the big awaited reset. The banksters should be shitting a brick because Ol Vlad's hand looks to be hovering over the big red reset button....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:51 | 4514216 LMAOLORI
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I see some people below dissing this article because the source is Russian but this isn't the only source reporting this so I wanted to point that out.  The Guardian is also reporting it (opens in new window)

 

Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet tells EU's Cathy Ashton about claim that provocateurs were behind Maidan killings

 

Some past President's whose examples wouldd be better to follow

snip

"When Red Army tank divisions crushed the Hungarian freedom fighters in 1956, killing 50,000, Eisenhower did not lift a finger. When Khrushchev built the Berlin Wall, JFK went to Berlin and gave a speech.

When Warsaw Pact troops crushed the Prague Spring in 1968, LBJ did nothing. When, Moscow ordered Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski to smash Solidarity, Ronald Reagan refused to put Warsaw in default.

These presidents saw no vital U.S. interest imperiled in these Soviet actions, however brutal.

What is the U.S. vital interest in Crimea? Zero."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:55 | 4514862 Freddie
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When, Moscow ordered Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski to smash Solidarity, Ronald Reagan refused to put Warsaw in default.

Jaruzelski considered it but he knew that the Polish Army would never attack or fire on the Polish people.  He did nothing. He knew the game was over.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:25 | 4515601 matrix2012
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Yeah, in that consideration i prefer to pick the "familiar" Western sources to avoid such biased skeptics whereas possible whenever I spread out the message like this one to those sheeples thru various messengers in short messages come with some picture or screenshot  :-)

 

In addition to the The Guardian link, there are some other "more familiar names" that may be more acceptable to the biased skeptics:

 

Was 'massacre' behind Ukraine revolution ordered by Yatsenyuk's coalition? | Mail Online

Ukraine Protests: Leaked EU Phone Call Suggests Kiev Snipers Were Hired by Opposition Coalition | International Business Times

Estonian foreign minister, in leaked phone call, raises suspicions about Ukraine's new government and sniper killings | KyivPost

 

Breaking: Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and Catherine Ashton discuss Ukraine over the phone - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8

 

Google is so caring that it needs to give a warning and require the would-be viewer to sign in first to confirm his/her age!

"Content Warning

This video may be inappropriate for some users.

Sign in to confirm your age"

 

Published on Mar 5, 2014

Officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to the ousted President Viktor Yanukovich have hacked phones of Estonian Minister of Foreign Affairs Urmas Paet and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and leaked their conversation to the web. The officials discuss their impressions of what's happening in the country after the revolution. The gist of it is that Ukrainian people have no trust in any of the leaders of Maidan.

However the most striking thing of all is the fact which concerns the use of force during the revolution, particularly the snipers who killed both protesters and officers of the riot police. Mr. Paet reveals astonishing information which confirms the rumours that the snipers were employed by the leaders of Maidan.

 

This one is an older video in German language, and because Google deems German are more mature than English-speaking people, it requires no sign-in to confirm the viewer's age!

Remember you can turn on the translated English caption to watch it.

Verschwörung der Medien aufgedeckt: Ukraine/Kiew: Terroristische Aktionen friedlicher Demonstranten - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOyz8yS5cc

 

Published on Mar 1, 2014

http://www.klagemauer.tv/index.php?a=showportal&keyword=bildung&id=2389

Nun ist es Zeit, die Lügen der Massenmedien aufzudecken und diese ins Bewusstsein der betrogenen Völker zu bringen: und die Lügen der Massenmedien wiegen schwer! Kiew: Die einseitige Berichterstattung der Mainstream-Medien über die Demonstrationen in der Ukraine, sorgt erneut für Zusendungen und Hilferufe an die Medien-Klagemauer. Wir zeigen eine exklusive Gegendarstellung der Medienpropaganda mit Liveaufnahmen aus der Ukraine.

 

And from India:

Kiev snipers were Opposition hitmen - The Hindu

"...The EU foreign policy chief told the Estonian Minister that “we do have to investigate,” but then suggested that the scandal should be kept under wraps..."

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:39 | 4514786 Buck Johnson
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That is a good analogy, bravo.  This whole thing just made Russia go balls to the wall against Western govt. officials outing them and their operations.  Putin knows what is going on and he will plan to retaliate.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:02 | 4511550 aminorex
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They are both one hell of a lot smarter than you, tool.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:42 | 4511782 usednabused
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Ha, a better way of wording it would be, they're at the same intelligence level you are aminorox, or is thta flak? That intelligence is zero until your masters at langley put some shit on a paper in front of you and tell you to type it into internet forums. Then its still at zero...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:04 | 4511563 NYPoke
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Who is smarter, Bush or Obama?

 

I think the answer is clear by now: Palin.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:48 | 4511830 Jumbotron
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Yeah...she saw all this shit coming from her backyard......while eating home made bear jerky.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:38 | 4511751 USisCorrupt
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I say Putin is SMARTER it seems to me he has enlisted the help of Snowden and a back door access into the NSA as to where Russia may have the same ability as the US as to listening to whoever they like to listen to, now just how ironic would that be? And at a MUCH CHEAPER COST at that !

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:13 | 4511987 walküre
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Interesting how Russia is leaking all these tapped phone calls within weeks, months after Snowden was granted asylum in Russia. Would he have given it up voluntarily or is he under duress? When's the last time he surfaced anywhere?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:48 | 4513055 Freddie
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Yeah like Russians don't know how to use computers.  The USA has loads of Indians and other H-1Bs who are such good programmers (sic).

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:43 | 4511784 LoneStarHog
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Are you asking to quantify DUMB & DUMBER?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:13 | 4511991 piliage
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"who is supposed to be smarter, Bush or Obama?"

Obama must be smarter, he went to Harvard and Columbia, right? I mean, only REALLY smart people go there... [spit]

Let's look forward to Hillary, I'm sure she'll be much better... [spit]

 

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:20 | 4512029 Lost Word
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Obama only pretended attending Harvard and Columbia.

Supposedly working for the CIA at that time.

Pretended existence, Just like everything else in his fraud life.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:37 | 4512081 Freddie
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Sadly they are the same people.   McCain is up to his neck in this too.  He should be indicted for murder.  They kill people overthrow legally elected govts on a whim.  

If you see conservatives losing to incumbent RINOs during the primaries like RINO Cornyn winning in TX yesterday - you know it is all totally rigged.   Plus we had Pedro Bush win his primary yesterday so it is all NWO.    They just have not started using snipers on us yet.

They don't even care if we know anymore.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:02 | 4512241 jughead
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both are idiots...one just talks prettier.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:07 | 4512572 robertsgt40
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Ukraine's Reichstag moment?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:04 | 4512807 TheReplacement
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If the Russians were acting on this intel then why haven't they made it public?  All we see above is hearsay.  I'm not saying it didn't happen that way but FFS people, hints, rumors, and accusations are not proof.  We are not the Soviet Union.  What's next, show trials with predetermined verdicts and sentencing?

Russian Tyler, stop posting stuff like this and calling it proof.  It wouldn't even stand up as evidence in a court of law.  This is the same bullshit tactic TPTB use to manipulate people.

Can someone post a picture or a video of one of these so called snipers?  I bet all you can find is police with AKs and protesters with air rifles.  If anyone tried to kill me with an air rifle I would casually walk up and stab them in the eye. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:10 | 4514927 TheReplacement
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Down votes but no pics or videos... 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:01 | 4512824 halcyon
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Which smells worse: donkey shit or cow shit?

Right answer: they both stink.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:31 | 4513255 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Neither.  Look at the "opposition's" response to actions of the current White House stooge's response to the Ukraine situation:  more blood, more projection of power, more killing sanctions, more putting other peoples' kids in harm's way in the name of "American Exceptionalism"  Since Ron Paul is not in the House there are NO sane voices left.  Fucking braindead American chickenhawks.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:02 | 4513463 Offthebeach
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This is a really poor post. A couple of political twats that couldn't tell a hocky puck from a beach ball? Really?

Like what, the FBI did forensics investigstions of each, or any killings?

I dont trust any reports. From anyone. Especially from Ukraine, or Russia.

And dollars to donuts, I'm placing my bets on rumors, idiots, and stupidity.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:10 | 4513771 mac768
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“As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.” 

Ron Paul

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:45 | 4514817 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Phone rings Obama picks up.

Putin - Knock knock

Obama - Who's there?

Putin - Crimea

Obama - Crimea who?

Putin - Crimea river

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