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"Behind The Kiev Snipers It Was Somebody From The New Coalition" - A Stunning New Leak Released

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The last time a leaked phone call out of Ukraine was released about a month ago ostensibly by the Russian NSA equivalent, one between US assistant sec state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, it was revealed that the real puppet masters behind the Maidan movement, and the true instigators of the Ukraine "revolution" were none other than the "developed" world superpowers, lead by the US. Also revealed were tensions between the US and EU strategies on how to overthrow the current government, culminating with the infamous "Fuck the EU." Needless to say the US, which implicitly confirmed the recording, was angry at Russia and accused it of using dirty tricks.

That's ironic, because when it comes to "dirty tricks" what is about to be presented, blows the top off anything Russia may or has done to date.

Earlier today an even more shocking recording has been "leaked" this time one between the always concerned about human rights EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet, in which it is revealed on tape that all those photos of horrifying deaths of Ukrainians by snipers during the last days of the Median stand off, were in fact caused not by Snipers controlled by Yanukovich, but that the snipers shot at both protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders!


Here is the key exchange, just after 8 minutes into the conversation :

Paet: "All the evidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides, policemen and people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides. ... Some photos that showed it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it is really disturbing that now the new coalition they don't want to investigate what exactly happened. So there is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition."

Ashton: "I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh."

Paet: "It already discreditates (sic) this new coalition."

So first US orchestrates the Kiev overthrow, and now the new "leaders" of Ukraine are allegedly found to have fired against their own people - the same provocation they subsequently used to run Yanukovich out of the country and install a pro-Western puppet government. Of course, said pro-Western coalition has not been discreditated (sic) because Ms. Ashton has sternly refused to investigate, knowing quite well how horribly this would reflect on the new Ukraine "leadership" -  a government which shot its own people to fabricate the pretext under which it rose to power.

Is it any wonder then that Russia has responded the way it has?

As for at least one of the affected parties, Estonia, it has just confirmed the authenticity of the recording, and the ministry of foreign affairs has organized a press conference to answer media questions today at 5 pm. From the Valisministeerium:

No. 84-E Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton uploaded to the Internet today, a phone call is authentic.

 

Paet and Ashton conversation took place on 26 February, following Estonia's Foreign Minister's visit to Ukraine, and immediately after the end of the street violence.

 

Foreign Minister Paet communicate what he had said about the meetings held in Kiev last day and expressed concern about the situation.

 

"It is extremely regrettable that such an interception is occurring at all""said Paet., Including its call for today's photos are not random," he added.

Yes, it is truly regrettable that the people know the truth.

Full leaked recording below:

 

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Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:08 | 4512259 Flakmeister
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So  you are clearly admitting that it was warming before you say it stopped.

Why was it warming before?

So when exactly did it stop?

And what changed to make it stop?

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Finally, could you explain the following fitted trends GISTEMP 

1970 to 1997:  0.146 +/- 0.067 C/decade

1970 to 2014:  0.163 +/- 0.031  C/decade

If the warming "stopped" why has the rate of warming increased if I add the last 17 years in?

It is mathematically impossible for what you claim to be true...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:26 | 4512346 Element
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"Why was it warming before?"

Its been warming up and cooling down of billions of years noob. Get an education, I'm done with your bizarre learning-deficiencies, ignoring of data and abundant psychological issues and personality disorder.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:32 | 4512379 Flakmeister
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I notice you didn't address that little bit on the fitted trends....

Not surprising at all...

Now run along, grasshopper, you are obviously out of your league....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:11 | 4514013 Poor Grogman
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The AGW scam is over.

The momentum is gone, people couldn't care less about some crappy,

"1000 UN funded scientists agree on ( ----------- insert statement-------)."

Any person on the planet has the chance to present ACTUAL FACTS that clearly show that man made CO2 is causing the earth to get warmer, yet no- one has produced ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

People can access information themselves nowadays and make up their own mind on this junk science of yours.

Why don't you just give it a rest and go buy some nice warm clothing for the coming ice age. You don't want to be the last AGW shill left on the planet.

Good folks want freedom, and the chance to help their children's future, just like they always have.

Now run along, and get a life, there's a good chap...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:45 | 4515491 Flakmeister
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Troll...

And a lame whiney one at that...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:04 | 4515808 Poor Grogman
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Come on Lame Meister?

You disappoint me....

Yet again!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 12:49 | 4517143 Flakmeister
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Maybe you can explain this: 

 Fitted trends from GISTEMP 

1970 to 1997:  0.146 +/- 0.067 C/decade

1970 to 2014:  0.163 +/- 0.031  C/decade

If the warming "stopped" why has the rate of warming increased if I add the last 17 years in?

If you can't you really should simply STFU...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 01:07 | 4520167 MeelionDollerBogus
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Never was a scam. Scientists all over the world have proven man-made global warming is fact, thousands of times now.

To deny this is to join a religious cult.

Cults do not prevail over fact.

Flak is right & has been 100% of the time.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:10 | 4511591 JustObserving
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You prefer the propaganda from the New York Times? The story of annonymous sources and mushroom clouds in Iraq?

Yeah, the very New York Times that published all the lies of Judith Miller that led to the million plus deaths in Iraq. Yes, the very same New York Times that clears its stories with the Pentagon. Yes, the very same New York Times that refused to publish the Guardian story that Obama signed an agreement with Israel in March 2009 handing over all the NSA data collected on Americans without any legal restrictions. The credibility of the New York Times and its propagandists is less than zero to put it mildly.

On Monday, the Times public editor Margaret Sullivan was compelled to respond to a barrage of emails from readers demanding to know why the newspaper had failed to write one line about the secret NSA documents released by Snowden showing that the agency was funneling raw data, including the telephone calls, emails and other online communications of American citizens, to Israeli intelligence.

“Friends of mine who never before believed that newspapers suppressed the truth are shocked by the evidence before them,” wrote one reader.

Sullivan reports a discussion on the matter with managing editor Dean Baquet, who told her that the story wasn’t “significant or surprising” and that the paper had more important things to do, such as “cover the turmoil in Syria.”

In other words, the NSA-Israel story was news that didn’t “fit” the Times overarching propaganda line in favor of a war in Syria that is intimately bound up with Israeli interests.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/18/nyts-s18.html

Page 1 Times story by Judith Miller and Michael Gordon cites anonymous administration officials saying Saddam has repeatedly tried to acquire aluminum tubes "specially designed" to enrich uranium. "The first sign of a 'smoking gun,' they argue, may be a mushroom cloud."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:14 | 4511617 Flakmeister
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As a rule, I don't lend much creedance to obvious propaganda....

I try to focus on the big picture, not the misdirections used by all sides...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:40 | 4511761 Overfed
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Wow. Such an incontrovertable refutation.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:56 | 4511870 Flakmeister
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I am not refuting it, I am basically ignoring it as noise...

Things are much easier to understand top-down than bottom-up...

Or did that ever occur to you?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:04 | 4511926 Overfed
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I find your haughty, arrogant, condescending, and light-on-substance argument style to be very convincing./s

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:31 | 4512075 Flakmeister
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Whereas you lap up crap like the RT report...

Oh my....

Where is Cog Diss when you need him?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:54 | 4512503 silvermail
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Dear Flakmeister,
I think, here nobody likes you. I think that everyone here believe that you troll. Or an idiot who believes in the US faux news. And I think you feel it and understand well.
My question is: Why do you come here every day and stay attend here for 24 hours a day?

Maybe you're a pervert and you like, when everyone around you is considered, that you idiot?
Or it is your job?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:10 | 4512588 Flakmeister
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Would you like me to be censored? 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:43 | 4513342 dogbreath
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 <---yes

<---  no

 

 

YES  +1

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:55 | 4515510 Element
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For the record, I voted no.

As I said, flak is an exemplar of why AGW is failing.

By all means flak, please continue ...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 10:25 | 4516415 Flakmeister
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The only fail on AGW is you on a pop-quiz of the facts...

Quit avoiding the question:

Explain the increase in the trend if the warming has stopped.....

Or admit you were wrong....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:49 | 4514198 D7z
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You are a troll, payed or not.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:47 | 4515495 Flakmeister
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This is my house bitch, and you should feel honored you even got a followup....

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 01:00 | 4520160 MeelionDollerBogus
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I believe Flak to be top notch 100% correct, always triple-checking facts.

The only people who hate Flak are those who hate real science, real evidence.

The same people that downvote me just for posting equations with data because that's too "hard". People prefer squiggles on charts with no math because that's ezee'r fer da derps to process.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:58 | 4511890 Arkadaba
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Here's the big picture. Let's put aside for a moment whether or not the protest movement in Kiev was formented, aided or co-opted by foreign assets. (Though the playbook seems remarkably similar to what happened in Eygpt and what will likely happen in Venezuela.) The protesters were successful in forcing the legally elected (and certified fair and free by international observers) but undeniably corrupt government to capsize. How many protesters were there? I think the top number I have seen is 1 million. So in a country of around 45 million, 2 to 3 percent of the population has been responsible for replacing an elected government with a non-elected government with at least 6 major posts going to individuals with strong ties to neo nazi parties with a documented animosity to a large part of the country's population, namely ethnic russians. HOW IS THIS NOT A COUP?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:51 | 4512185 Lost Word
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Same percentage in all political actions.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:00 | 4512545 sluggo
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3 percent? Where have I seen that before?

 

III

 

If just 3% of Americans marched on DC?

If just 3% of US gun owners marched on DC?

Never mind.....DWTS is on tonight.

 

III

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:51 | 4514222 Independent
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The percent is a lot less here in the USA that co-opt our democracy

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:14 | 4511623 Thought Processor
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Thanks JO

More evidence that this is all being managed.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:35 | 4512091 Hammurabi
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we all know that, but no body talk about it. now you will have 5000 agents responding to your comments.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:54 | 4512498 Element
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The reason why Flak and some of the other AGW alarmists have suddenly and curiously gotten a mighty hard-on in their trunks for the tribal neo-cons, is the following.

Read it and all becomes crystal clear what's going on here and why flak is talking crap about the tribe all the time - he is sucking up to them, to garner favor and sponsorship, for his little CAGW crusade.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/03/the-silence-of-the-anti-defamation...

It is an organised strategy, and he clearly sees himself as part of it.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:24 | 4512661 Flakmeister
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Put a few notes together and maybe you can pitch it to Tom Clancy as the basis of his next novel....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:42 | 4512753 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

It is an organised strategy, and he clearly sees himself as part of it.

Well, Flak does have a shelf of library books. Surely that must count for something.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:32 | 4512973 Flakmeister
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I have many shelves... in case you were wondering...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:53 | 4513405 dogbreath
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mostly fiction,  and fantasy

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:48 | 4515498 Flakmeister
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It's a shame what passes for wit nowadays...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:56 | 4515517 Element
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And it hasn't even helped. lol

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:51 | 4512789 trader1
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Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a blogger, weathercaster and non-scientist, paid AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat.com. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. His website is parodied and debunked at the website wottsupwiththat.com Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries.[1]

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Watts

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:09 | 4515545 Element
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Shoot the messenger much?

WUWT's commenter base is full of very knowledgeable and experienced scientists, many of them use their own name at that site, and can provide a long list of their career of scientific research and publications. The referrencing and detailed discussion of peer-reviewed papers is routine ay WUWT. I wonder if most of the owners of mainstream journals have a science doctorate - I strongly suspect not.

But don't let that stop you ignoring the content, and displaying your bias and presumption. ;-)

 

Hey Tyler! Have you got a doctorate? I just wanna know so I can tell if zh's content is worth reading as I have no other verifiable means of determining this. Please respond this is pretty important to the whole cred of your blog, and I shall rant like a bastard against you, in other blogs, if you don't.

/hyper-sarc

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:57 | 4515673 trader1
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would you trust someone who is not a urologist, telling you that you have cancer?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:07 | 4515539 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, sadly, I can't say that's too surprising Element. Science is suppose to invite opposing views to foster the journey to truth. So hypotheses must now never be questioned. How nice. May be we should eliminate peer reviewed papers and Flak should be crowned the Queen of Knowledge and we should just worship faithfully. Science should never be a religion. Soon deniers will be jailed for failure to join in lock step. I can relate to Galileo facing the Inquisition over heliocentrism.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:17 | 4515552 Element
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Its far more nefarious that that even miffed, look at the quotes in the link, those ADL jackasses and their associates are proposing to imprison and execute people who would question scientific theory.

These western duel-national ADL scum want to set up a gulag-archipelago for 'dissidents' ... again!

Only this time science itself is the target, or rather politicized science, the zionist ADL propose to summarily imprison anyone they want to for any reason the decide.

That is implied in their outrageous anti-think.

Flak is the sort of vile scum that would do just that if ever given the chance.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:29 | 4516188 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, Galileo only faced house arrest for his remaining years. Things appear to have gotten worse in a few hundred years. Fanaticism in anything seems to be always the path to evil. We certainly live in interesting times.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 10:30 | 4516438 Flakmeister
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Did you you follow through on your exercise in honesty we discussed?

Mr. Element lied a little with that figure he linked... Not a very good lie either...

Now he is having hard time reconciling his above statement on the warming trend with the fact that it is mathematically impossible...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 00:57 | 4520157 MeelionDollerBogus
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There is no crusade, there is no alarm.

10 years ago was the last chance to reverse man-made global warming.

Now it's survival of the fittest which generally means those who are poorest, farthest from food & nearest to coasts will die. Period. Because of man-made global warming.

Your ignorance will be the death of us all.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:48 | 4512162 Lost Word
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The spy game has been described as the forrest of mirrors.

Nothing is the true image.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 10:57 | 4511508 jubber
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Kerry surely has to resign if this proven...and Obama? surely the MSM cannot ignore this this time a lot of people got killed

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:01 | 4511545 daedon
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No, Kerry won't resign and it will only bring him closer to the Presidency.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:12 | 4511605 oddjob
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A giant step forward for geldings.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:17 | 4511631 Element
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The glue factory calling, they want the horse back.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:05 | 4511942 Overfed
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The majority of US MSM take their talking points directly from the DNC. Kohn's political career is perfectly safe.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 10:58 | 4511521 Stoploss
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Don't forget, the US military has been eviscerated.

UK and EU spending our bodies without our consent.

Barry won't last past the summer at this rate.

How does it feel to be the new Jimmy C, Barry??

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:06 | 4511951 Overfed
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Sheeit. O'bomb-a already has me longing for the halcyon days of the Carter administration.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 10:59 | 4511524 rsnoble
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No! No! No! No! No! No! Mommy!!!!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:00 | 4511530 Harry Dong
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Get CSI to analyze the bullets.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:00 | 4511531 EconomicGenocide
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Was there ever a doubt? And look at the reaction from the American people when it was exposed that the banks had conspired with the NYPD and CIA having snipers aimed at OWS protesters. The Z scourge has turned the American people and all of Europe into mini heartless parasites much like their handlers!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:31 | 4511703 Ban KKiller
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OWS scared the shit out of TBTB...big time. Why? It was DISORGANIZED...no head to chop off. 

Distributed, non centric, divided cells of support, that is the way to attack a centralized criminal enterprise...like a bank. 

War profiteers should be hung by their balls but...they will retire and face their ghosts of past crimes. Fuck them. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:08 | 4511962 Flakmeister
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OWS did cause a ruffle at first, and then they were swept away to dust bin of history because of a lack of leadership...

I checked out the OWS in NYC one day, it was a hodge podge of protestors, with disparate views and goals.. Ron Paul types mixed with tree huggers along with one or two Marxists...

There was never a means to project that anger into any political power...

Unlike the Tea Party that was quickly backed and hijacked by the Kochs among others....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:26 | 4512053 walküre
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OWS wasn't official state sponsored psy ops that much is 100% confirmed. Where have they gone? I thought at the time those were good people and worth getting in touch with.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:00 | 4511533 bcups
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Sheeet,  next thing you know the ruskies wil release emails showing the fed is a hoax.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:00 | 4511534 LawsofPhysics
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I wonder if any of these people have been donanting to American political campaigns?

Hhhhmmmmm....

Answering this question might clear a few things up.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:00 | 4511536 fonzannoon
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this is bullish for facefart.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:01 | 4511539 MillionDollarBoner_
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Catherine Ashton makes me ashamed to be British.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:29 | 4511689 Rip van Wrinkle
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Just Ashton? I could name about 650 others in one House and about another 1,000 in the other.

 

I wouldn't piss on one of them if they were on fire.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:01 | 4511541 agent default
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They are on to us??? WTF??? We underestimated the Lublinianka boys a bit too much. 

Quick , get the BBC, MSNBC, CNN and whatever other shit peddling pieces of shit we have to discredit and defuse this situation.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:30 | 4513860 gearbaby
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Don't forget the king of all government propaganda...Fox News

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:02 | 4511548 Aknownymouse
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And this is exactly what the US also did in the first Egyptian 'revolution' to overthrow Mubarak and install the muslim brotherhood. The second 'revolution' was then russia's way to get back at the CIA. This is why Obama never supported it although it was similar to what happened in ukraine. The latest events are just airing all the dirt of russia US underground war that seems to have been on since Obambo came to power.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:04 | 4511562 Flakmeister
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You have woven such a web of bullshit you are going to trip over it and hurt yourself...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:10 | 4511596 Aknownymouse
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Do u work for the CIA?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:23 | 4511666 Aknownymouse
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No answer? Cover blown?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:25 | 4511677 Flakmeister
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Actually a double Agent for MOSSAD and CIA.....

\facepalm....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:26 | 4511683 Aknownymouse
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LOL. good for you. You must be making tons of money then

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:11 | 4511598 agent default
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Hey Flakwanker, why is your avatar the same as the 10th Waffen SS Frundsberg division?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:42 | 4511779 Element
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It's a good question. ... I'm sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:09 | 4511968 Flakmeister
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I used to do a lot of operational level war gaming...

Very simple, eh?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:25 | 4512052 Element
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and?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:33 | 4512319 Flakmeister
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And what? Are you thick? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Campaigns

I used to PBEM....

Korsun '44 was my favorite....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:34 | 4512653 Element
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That's so cute!

A little Nazi SS tanker! lol

Who has now had a road to Damascus (mind the chem bombs) change of heart, about slaughtering holy neo-cons and now feels all benevolently disposed toward them.

That's so nice. ... isn't that nice. .. and cute ...

I bet you were a right ruthless bastard in a panzer though? Did you wear the full SS uniform while you were playing tankes? That must have been exciting, you and your little joystick, rampaging into battle ... wow ... what an image. I now see where you get it. You're a natural! You were mentally an SS thug for several years.

Did you have to work hard to get your Iron Cross?

That's just awesome!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:46 | 4512769 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Hilariously brutal.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:20 | 4515568 Element
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Well now we know what those book shelves contain.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:03 | 4512836 Flakmeister
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Wow... now that is some serious projection...

In reality, you play both sides in parallel (or sequentially) against your opponent and net the results to determine the winner...

Risk is for children...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:17 | 4511639 usednabused
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I'd say you're the Biullshit artist Flak. Paid by some fucking idiots to stir up shit. The fact of the matter when it comes to you, is that you're a sleazy asshole, and do not give a damn about whats right or wrong, only that your check shows up for you sitting on your fat ass corrupting peoples discussions. It's painfully obvious what you and the other asshat are about and where you come from.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:23 | 4511667 Flakmeister
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Let's see, you have been here for 5 weeks...

I've been posting here for 4 years....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:31 | 4511682 agent default
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Argumentum ab auctoritate: Argument from authority.  The classic sign of any bullshit artist. 

If you think that being here longer than him gives you any sort of superior credibility, you are beyond retarded.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:35 | 4511726 Flakmeister
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Talk about logic fails....

You are deluded, I claimed no such thing....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:38 | 4511749 agent default
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WTF is this then:

"Let's see, you have been here for 5 weeks...

I've been posting here for 4 years...."

 

Why are you trying to use your time here as an answer?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:43 | 4511785 Zwelgje
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He's a professional troll. He'll write anything.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:45 | 4511786 Zwelgje
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.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:45 | 4511787 Zwelgje
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.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:45 | 4511788 Zwelgje
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.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:44 | 4511789 Zwelgje
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Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:46 | 4511790 Zwelgje
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wtf?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:10 | 4511973 Flakmeister
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And you clearly have no idea what you are doing...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:26 | 4512054 Element
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He was doing the funky camel.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:28 | 4512062 walküre
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is the WiFi at Sewastopol this bad?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 06:07 | 4515845 Tall Tom
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No. He is not running adblockplus. Thus his computer takes too much time to load and he gets a fat itchy finger. (Flak has got into his head...He is upset...LOL)

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:11 | 4511982 usednabused
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Oh my cocksucker Flak, you mean youve been employed at Lngley for 4 years now? To tell you the honest truth, I don't post on many articles, but I love pointing the obvious fucking gov't trolls out. Thats yoii in a nutshell, a filthy POS

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:34 | 4512087 Flakmeister
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Thanks for playing...

Better luck next time...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:14 | 4515200 pot_and_kettle
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Langley?  He wishes.  He has nothing to lose - he's destroyed in debate - " they ganged up on me ".  Someone engages him who falls for troll bait - he sings " trollololol " in his bath robe.  He has a different goal than most people in here.

The more we call him a paid this and that, the more hot air we fill him up with, and the larger he feels, and the more he writes.

Remember Wargames?  The only way to "win" is not to play.  And not helping spout drivel is the " win ".

 

ymmv

 

PSA: http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/18-types-of-internet-trolls

 

 

 

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:02 | 4511553 Infinite QE
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Fecking Israeli snipers. Was outed the day it happened. When will the world wake up and call these alien species to task?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:19 | 4511648 Chuck Knoblauch
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We're working on that.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:22 | 4511654 tony wilson
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you nazi scum we could not do this

israel has always been the victim

do not twist histories

we have so much humanity and love to give and all us zionist satanists get is bad alternative media press.

when will you stop cutting us and poisoning us with your herr hitler ways.

the snipers i here where arabs from syria and iraq you could see the brown skin under the balaclava face masks.

YOU MUST BLAME THE ARAB FOR THIS

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:38 | 4511747 ThisIsBob
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Its the Christians, actually.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:48 | 4511825 agent default
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You forgot the \sarc tag.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:31 | 4513600 resurger
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Fuck ISRAEL!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:22 | 4511658 PatientZero
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Not just Israeli snipers, but IDF soldiers commanding "Far-Right Neo-Nazi" groups on the streets.

 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114

 

http://www.jpost.com/International/In-Kiev-an-Israeli-army-vet-led-a-street-fighting-unit-343891

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abraham-h-foxman/in-ukraine-new-government_b_4875833.html

 

This so-called revolution, funded by Soros, Nuland, and God knows who else is KOSHER AS FUCK.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:39 | 4511759 Flakmeister
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Yet another Jewish conspiracy unearthed by our budding cub reporter...

And better yet, an unholy alliance with the Ukrainian Neo-Nazis...

Do you think things through before you post them? 

Apparently not...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:47 | 4511802 Element
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Hey idiot, look at the sources linked.

Even the Jewish newspapers are saying it.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:50 | 4512782 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Clearly Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post are anti-semitic.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:59 | 4511894 tony wilson
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flak you been outted fella

you are one sick fuck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304793/Two-babies-stricken-HERP...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:17 | 4512302 Volkodav
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tony...be kind..try not interrupt the handicapped...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:43 | 4512140 SMG
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Soros et al. are Luciferian NWO and control Israel as it controls the US.  The NWO is not Jewish, more like a bunch of people who believe they are gods, and do whatever they want to anybody without conscience. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:12 | 4513782 Johnny Cocknballs
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no, that's all bullshit.  There are no "luciferians" and there is no NWO.  There are mega corporations and the large international banks and banking dynasties. And they aren't all Jewish, merely disproportionately so - especially as to the "European" banking dynasties. 

Whenever someone says "Luciferian" you should now hear "International Zionism" which is a substructure of the Global Banking Empire.  It's religion is Talmudism or Phariseeism...  and it very much involves hyperethnocentrism, dual, duplicitous ethics, xenophobia and megalomania.

And before you object, you could simply read it, or portions of it.  The Torah as well - actually, it is a very racist, xenophobic, hateful and anti-universalist work as well.

And this mythology certainly predates the pogroms of late antiquity.  That is, the supremacism and racism created an anti-Talmudic reaction in host communities and a vicious circle has spun ever since. {as with Heidegger's 'circle' of understanding, the point is to get out of it in the right way...some good stuff in his writing although Heide was, ultimately, a Nazi cunt}

Agree or disagree, but always ask "who benefits" and ask if the people who are long on conspiracy theories are short on specifics and have you chasing ghosts, or chasing evidence.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:47 | 4511813 Frostfan1
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Yup cuz the only snipers in the world we know are Israeli.......

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:03 | 4511554 halfawake
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Is ZH being used as psyops to influence US discontents to embrace Russia?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:07 | 4511577 Flakmeister
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Tyler is courting the lucrative 18-35 yo Russian Nationalist demographic...

They provide lots of clickthroughs on the "Meet_____ Women in your neighborhood" and Gold marketing ads....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:20 | 4511650 agent default
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I suppose you are trying to appeal to the impressionable 15 year olds in Germany with your Nazi avatar?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:36 | 4511735 Flakmeister
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I don't think budding neo-nazis would find much to agree with in my commentary...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:42 | 4511773 agent default
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Oh, you are a member of the old guard. I see.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:14 | 4511990 Flakmeister
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That would explain this exchange here

You are clearly an idiot...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:34 | 4512079 Element
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You got slammed to the ground and pissed all over with counterpoint and fact in that link, and you still reference it like it was your finest hour!!

GAWF~~~~~~!

 

Bless you flak. You have now won the Village Idiot of 2014 Award!

 

</slow clap>

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:37 | 4512111 Flakmeister
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Yeah buddy, sure thing...

Whatever...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:52 | 4512792 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Flak enjoys backpedaling in 10th gear.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:05 | 4513129 Flakmeister
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Backpedal, my ass...

I notice Johnny has been behaving much better since then...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:48 | 4513469 Johnny Cocknballs
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Suck a bag of dicks, Flake. 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:11 | 4515411 Flakmeister
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Didn't Louis C.K. discuss that?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:10 | 4513496 Johnny Cocknballs
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He literally never grasped what was going on.

But the point was to try to impart a lesson, to engender some critical thinking - not merely to let it devolve into giving someone enough rope...

whaddayagonnado?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:08 | 4511584 aerojet
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Seriously!  This is *not* journalism, it is propaganda!  I find it exceedingly hard to believe that the people who took to the streets and risked their lives were manipulated into doing so by some kind of western conspiracy.  It is also dubious whether the claim about the so-called snipers is true when we have actual footage of the police shooting the protestors.  

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:19 | 4511647 Rising Sun
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in your opinion asshole!!!!

 

go hang out at CNN or TMZ - you will be happier there

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:33 | 4511722 Dollarmedes
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Well-reasoned response. You're a fucking genius.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:23 | 4511663 usednabused
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You're the propaganda tool here. Police uniforms arent available to CIA assets? Fuck off asshole. You seem to think that you paid 'commenters' are journalists. I see this topic drew a few of you scumbags out today. Must be some real truth that needs confusing right?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:36 | 4511734 Dollarmedes
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"I see this topic drew a few of you scumbags out today."

You know who else it drew out? You.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:43 | 4511796 Skin666
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Then you are exceedingly naive...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:12 | 4512593 Boxed Merlot
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we have actual footage of the police shooting the protestors...

 

 

Is there evidence the individuals pictured in uniforms pulling the triggers on weapons loaded with live ammunition which struck and killed were actually in the legal / lawful employment of legitimate government authorities obeying lawful orders issued by sworn officers of the country?  So many questions, so little answers.  (At this point in time.)

 

jmo.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:02 | 4511914 headhunt
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It seems to be the case these days

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:05 | 4511558 aerojet
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Disinformation.  Both sides use the same rifles, same ammunition, so how can you tell what took place based on the 'evidence' which would be spent shell casings and mangled bullets taken from the dead bodies?  You can't.

Now if it turns out there were some unusual cartridges used for that area, perhaps something European or something custom-loaded from the civilian market, that would be interesting.  But typical 7.62x54R or 7.62x39mm or the 5.45x39mm, get out of here with that!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:08 | 4511586 aerojet
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How can you downvote this?  Provide evidence.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:38 | 4511752 Dollarmedes
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You call for evidence and you get downvotes. That either means this forum is populated with childish conspiracy theorists who can't stand even cursory examination of their arguments, or people with an agenda to push.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:40 | 4512118 Flakmeister
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Its a mixture of both with a majority being self-righteous conspiracy whackadoos oblivious to the game that resulted in their having a standard of living enabling them to post here in the first place...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:01 | 4512826 trader1
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+1

post of the day

 

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:45 | 4514820 Poor Grogman
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Crack sister is so full of shit, he can't imagine anyone being able to survive without powerful knowledgable folks organising the macro chess pieces for everyone.

He is the perfect little pawn on the chess board, ready to go forward boldly and do his masters bidding, only to find he has been sacrificed to make room for a move he can't even understand.

You see crack sister doesn't believe in people, only in power.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:59 | 4515674 trader1
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people (with knowledge) = power

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:17 | 4511640 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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You are probably going to have to read it through a good proxy seems the site (wonder why) is being blocked in certain areas. Wonder why?

http://www.voltairenet.org/article182329.html

The Prosecutor General of Russia has opened an investigation into public calls for terrorism inside Russia posted ??by Dmytro Yarosh on his website.

Nazi leader Dmytro Yarosh was appointed Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council (body that oversees the Ministry of Defence and the Armed Forces) in the Ukrainian government that emerged from the coup.

Dmytro Yarosh boasted of having fought against the Russians to defend the Islamic Emirate of Ichkeria (Chechnya). On his website, he urged Dokka Umarov, Emir of the North Caucasus and member of al-Qaeda to "commit extremist actions and terror on Russian territory" in support of the "Ukrainian revolution."

During the riots on Maidan square, Dmytro Yarosh led the Right Sector (Pravy Sektor), an organization of 3,000 battle-hardened militants armed by NATO through Poland. He staged a fake kidnapping by police forces and declared to have fled after being severely tortured. Refusing to show the traces of his ordeal to journalists, he immediately left for Germany - at Chancellor Angela Merkel’s invitation - for treatment.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:26 | 4511680 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://www.voltairenet.org/article182329.html

The products of such indoctrination were not long in coming. A number of NATO-sponsored training centers for the Ukrainian ultranationalist militants were opened on the territory of the Baltic states immediately after they joined NATO in 2004. The detailed photo report on a Ukrainian group taking a course of subversive activities at a NATO training center in Estonia in 2006 is available here (texts in Russian).

...

Abundant financial and human resources were directed to bolster the paramilitary units of the radical UNA-UNSO, Svoboda and other ultranationalist organizations in the Ukraine. Since 1990s these thugs were participating in the Chechen and Balkan wars on the side of radical Wahhabi (!) militants and committing war crimes against captured Russian and Serbian soldiers and civilian population. One of the notorious guerilla fighters of the Ukrainian origin in Chechnya, Olexander Muzychko (aka criminal leader Sasha Biliy) today is heading a brigade of “Pravyi Sector”, the radical militant driving force of the ongoing coup d’Etat in Kiev. According to his “official” biography (link in Russian), in 1994 he was awarded by the then top commander of terrorist Ichkeria enclave Dzhohar Dudayev with the order “Hero of Nation” for “outstanding military successes against Russian troops”. His “military skills” were quite specific: he used to lure the Russian units operating in remote Chechen locations to guerilla ambushes. Then he personally participated in tortures and beheadings of the captured Russian soldiers. After returning to the Ukraine in 1995, he led a criminal gang in Rovno. Eventually he was prosecuted and sentences for 8 years term for kidnapping for ransom and attempted assassination of a Ukrainian businessman. He entered politics after release from prison in late 2000s.

After the end of Chechen and Balkan wars the British and American private military contractors were routinely recruiting Ukrainian mercenaries for operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and elsewhere. The Britam Defense scandal revealed the way and scale of how the Ukrainian personnel of the private military contractors were used in provocative clandestine actions to meet Western political goals in the Middle East. Many of them were sent to Kiev to make the job they are paid for – to target both policemen and protesters on “Euromaidan” from the roofs of surrounding buildings.

 

The real leaders of the protest have already clearly expressed their radical views to the European press (read e.g. the interview with the Pravyi Sector leader Dmitro Yarosh and several recent Guardian’s publications here and here).

That is the sort of people the half-hearted European politicians are about to deal with in the Ukraine. These fanatics are the real authority in today’s Kiev seized by the marauding mobs. They have torn the Friday’s agreement signed by four Ukrainian “leaders” and three European officials before the ink was dry on this paper. Their treatment of Yulia Timoshenko after her emotional speech on the Maidan Saturday night has clearly shown that her nomination de facto head of failing Ukrainian state would be their decision. Latest Western advice to financially support Ukraine with the IMF and the EU funds suggest that they have chosen to buy the loyalty of the ultranationalists for the transition period. Therefore, the ongoing Western policy of appeasement towards the radical insurgents in Kiev very much resembles the Anglo-American connivance in Hitler’s accession to power in Germany in 1933 and the rise of the Third Reich. But if the Western elitist groups suppose that the Neo-Nazi project that they have carefully cherished and supported in Ukraine for decades, would be controlled by political means and set against Russia, they are deadly wrong. After facing furious resistance and blowback at the East and South of the Ukraine, the radical Nazi ideological avalanche encouraged by the illusion of success in Kiev would inevitably enter the degrading European political landscape where the neo-Nazi and hooligan outbreaks are already a notable destabilizing factor. Their established links with the Islamist underground in Europe add another sinister dimension to the murky European future.

Is it the price the Europeans are ready to pay for bringing its eastern neighbors into the “family of civilized nations”?

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:21 | 4511997 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And to tie a few other strings together here don't think NATO isn't somehow involved with this coup. They sure as hell have strong ties to more wholesome and righteous elements here.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-ukraine-nato-idUSBREA0S0HW2...

Reuters) - NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen criticized Russia on Wednesday for pressuring Kiev not to sign a free trade pact with the European Union, a move that triggered mass protests.

...

"An association pact with Ukraine would have been a major boost to Euro-Atlantic security, I truly regret that it could not be done," Rasmussen told le Figaro daily.

...

And lurking in the shadows in case anyone forgot. Prince Bandar and the Sauds.

http://tehrantimes.com/component/content/article/113184

According to a diplomatic leak detailing the Bandar-Putin meeting in Moscow on July 31, Bandar suggested that Putin’s agreement to abandon the government of Bashar al-Assad would lead Saudi Arabia to restrain its Chechen terrorist clients who have been attacking Russian targets for years.

...

I think Pravyi Sector might have been one of them clients Bandar was refering to....

And that 'new coalition' which includes Pravyi Sector have EXTREMEly strong ties as long term assets to NATO and in turn to the usual Visigoth mercenary groups that the 2 of the co-partys to that memorandum of agreement everyone is whining about that Putin violated.

I will reiterate once again who the fuck threw the first punch in this schoolyard fight?


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 06:30 | 4515868 Phuk u
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Mr Howe please resume your medication and go lay down.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:17 | 4511641 jovius
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I'm guessing that when he says 'same handwriting' he means ballistic signature and doesn't know the English.

 

His English is still considerably better than my Estonian though.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:25 | 4511679 RobD
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Exactly what I was thinking. Aks or Dragunovs would be used by both sides, no way to tell the difference unless there is intel connecting the snipers to one side or the other.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 11:58 | 4511891 headhunt
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Dragunovs yes, AK no way

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:11 | 4512254 Volkodav
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Bolt. There are several photos of team in place and was told there is one posted on the web somewhere of the radicals working from a building.

Useless gossip and speculation make no matter.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 14:33 | 4512702 all-priced-in
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If you really did not care who was hit and you are just shooting into the crowd an AK would do just fine. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 12:52 | 4512190 Volkodav
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If you were trying to sound intelligent, you failed.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!