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NSA Chief Pushes Legislation To Stifle The First Amendment

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Recently, what came out with the justices in the United Kingdom … they looked at what happened on Miranda and other things, and they said it’s interesting: journalists have no standing when it comes to national security issues. They don’t know how to weigh the fact of what they’re giving out and saying, is it in the nation’s interest to divulge this.


- General Keith Alexander, Director of the NSA

Although General Alexander states the above with regard to the UK justice system, he clearly agrees with the assessment. Read the passage above again and think about how scary that statement is. It becomes clear that one of the reasons abuses at the NSA are so egregious is because of the attitude of the person in charge. Alexander genuinely thinks that intelligence officials know best, and should not be subject to any sort of accountability. You don’t need to be a card-carrying member of the ACLU to see how dangerous this perspective is. To endorse this notion that “journalists have no standing when it comes to national security issues,” is to effectively make illegal one of the most important free speech rights in any democracy. This sort of attitude represents the antithesis of American values.

Not only does General Alexander see things this way, apparently he is lobbying for Congressional legislation that would solidify this authoritarian view within the law itself. For example, the Guardian reported yesterday that:

General Keith Alexander, who has furiously denounced the Snowden revelations, said at a Tuesday cybersecurity panel that unspecified “headway” on what he termed “media leaks” was forthcoming in the next several weeks, possibly to include “media leaks legislation.”


The general, who is due to retire in the next several weeks, said that the furore over Snowden’s surveillance revelations – which he referred to only as “media leaks” – was complicating his ability to get congressional support for a bill that would permit the NSA and the military Cyber Command he also helms to secretly communicate with private entities like banks about online data intrusions and attacks.

So apparently he has several pieces of authoritarian legislation on his plate at the moment. He laments Snowden is making the implementation of his fascist tendencies more difficult. Just another reason to celebrate Snowden.

“We’ve got to handle media leaks first,” Alexander said.


“I think we are going to make headway over the next few weeks on media leaks. I am an optimist. I think if we make the right steps on the media leaks legislation, then cyber legislation will be a lot easier,” Alexander said.


Alexander has previously mused about “stopping” journalism related to the Snowden revelations.


“We ought to come up with a way of stopping it. I don’t know how to do that. That’s more of the courts and the policymakers but, from my perspective, it’s wrong to allow this to go on,” he told an official Defense Department blog in October.


The specific legislation to which Alexander referred was unclear. Angela Canterbury, the policy director for the Project on Government Oversight, a watchdog group, said she was unaware of any such bill. Neither was Steve Aftergood, an intelligence policy analyst at the Federation of American Scientists.

Does this guy really have something up his sleeve, or is he just delusional?

But staff at Georgetown University, which sponsored the Tuesday cybersecurity forum, took the microphone away from a Guardian reporter who attempted to ask Alexander if the NSA had missed the signs of Russia’s invasion and occupation of Ukraine, which appeared to take Obama administration policymakers by surprise.


Although the event was open to reporters, journalists were abruptly told following the NSA director’s remarks that they were not permitted to ask questions of Alexander, who did not field the Ukraine question. Following the event, security staff closed a stairwell gate on journalists who attempted to ask Alexander questions on his way out.


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Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:47 | 4515325 Soul Glow
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The NSA sucks balls but it isn't anyhing new.  J. Edgar had millions on the FBIs watchlist in the '50s.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:54 | 4515353 Renewable Life
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An "American Value" is something any American is willing to pick up a gun and fight for rather then live without!

It appears in today's America...........we have absolutely NO values left!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:56 | 4515360 Manthong
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Oh, we have plenty of values and they are mostly bad..

what we lack is Constitutional principles.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:57 | 4515363 JohnnyBriefcase
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OK, where the fuck does this faggot "General Keith Alexander, Director of the NSA" live? Lets pay him a visit!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:01 | 4515373 Soul Glow
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Thus why NSA exists.  You've heard of the "Palmer Rainds", haven't you?  They happened because there were two assasination attempts on him and he had a warchest to hunt down dissidents.  

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:04 | 4515389 JohnnyBriefcase
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He must have people that guard him while he sleeps. What are these assholes doing?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:10 | 4515404 Soul Glow
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Masterbating to pictures of Eva Braun.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:46 | 4515475 AlaricBalth
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General Alexander, after graduation from USMA, attended the Military Intelligence Officer Advanced Course at Fort Huachuca, AZ. The course was designed to teach COIN theory (counter insurgency). During a COIN operation an incumbent government attempts to quell or contain an insurgency taken up against it.

"In the main, domestic insurgents seek to replace the political authority of the defending authorities in a population they seek to control, and the counter-insurgent forces seek to protect that authority and reduce or eliminate the supplanting authority of the insurgents."

General Alexander was trained to seek the enemy within and to circumvent any possible insurgency which may arise. He sees the populace as a host of possible insurgents, until they can be categorized as non-combatants or uninvolved civilians. He utilizes the resources of the NSA to disseminate which classification each citizen falls under.

The NSA's cover is its stated mission, rooting out foreign threats of terrorism. It's true mission is to protect the status quo by detecting and countering possible perceived threats from internal sources. It is about control. Always has been, always will be.

To understand ones enemies or oppressors, you must study the tactics utilized by them.
If anyone is interested, this book was considered the bible at MIOAC during Alexander's time there.

Counter-Insurgency Warfare, Theory and Practice by David Galula

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:51 | 4515500 Soul Glow
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A sword to the belly should do the trick.




Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:28 | 4515575 Freddie
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Well this NWO scum who invaded the Ukraine in a phony coup with NATO, Soros, McCain, Nuland, Necons and O stole the Germans gold and Dr. Jim Willie says they are rapidly looting the Saudis gold now.

The Saudi gold in London will be totally gone in a few more months. To be sure, it is going mostly to China. The Saudis are being gutted. They will likely be on the run soon, their gold bars cut loose. They might be hunted.

The Saudi royals hunted down?  How sad.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:36 | 4515706 Johnny Cocknballs
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It was always the plan.

You'll see a renewed, reconcerted effort to pin 9/11 on the Saudis... maybe even "co-conspirators" in the US government.  Israel and Jewish-American sayanim will be left out of the narrative... again...

At least in the corporate media, if not in all the dark corners.

But the Saudis losing the throne and their rule? 

Is there anyone who gives a fuck, that isn't a Saudi royal?

Inevitable, anyway.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:23 | 4515911 GetZeeGold
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It's the mad dash to the finish....


There are no rules......good luck!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:29 | 4515920 negative rates
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He's just another slow learner.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:01 | 4515952 johnQpublic
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its eunf to make an old Nazi tear up, just a bit

handkerchief mein herr?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:02 | 4515531 kchrisc
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The interesting part is that a Constitutional government has NO enemies. An Unconstitutional one is the enemy.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:16 | 4515560 Anusocracy
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Any reasonably decent constitution creates its own enemies simply by existing.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:41 | 4515481 kchrisc
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He lives on Treason street in DC US.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:45 | 4516059 headhunt
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That's on the corner of Treason and Sucks-Dick in DC, US

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:55 | 4515357 booboo
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The whole purpose of a free press is to "leak". They called it journalism when I was a kid. The term "National Security" is a convenient fly trap for the ruling class to neuter the First Amendment. Unfortunately todays "press" is a the abused woman who will one day wake up with a knife stuck in her chest.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:05 | 4515535 WTF_247
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Todays press is owned by multinational conglomerates who want only one thing - profits.  There is very little profit in going against the govt, even globally.  There is far more profit in helping/assisting them. It is amazingly easy for the FCC to deny requests for new channels, brodcasts and to deny mergers and acquisitions if you are not their buddy.  Fines up the wazoo, audits by the IRS, planting negative press, favoring rivals with rulings and legislation... its super easy to keep everyone in line.

The ones who run the companies want to make the most money possible.  This is counter to actual journalism.  If you want to see what happens when you buck the trend - see Standard and Poors downgrade of US debt and the resulting fiasco.  It will not be tolerated.  Unlike Facist states of old, they do not have to detain you, imprison you or anything like that.  It is much easier to initimidate your company or threaten to bankrupt you with legislation and lawsuits.  Those who have money and power understand that and they do not want it taken away.  This fear is used by the govt to keep all in line.  Step too far out of bounds and become an example.

No one wants to be an example.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:34 | 4515583 UselessEater
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check the revolving doors between MNC's and gov'ts.... symbiotic parasites feeding off the same host.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:57 | 4515364 DavidPierre
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The Bureau of Investigation (BI) changes its name to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) but, the Bureau is still the personal instrument of control, revenge and repression of megalomaniacal transvestite and gay basher, J. Edgar Hoover, whose personal crime wave against the people of the United States will continue unabated until his long overdue death in 1972.

Wealthy friends, including leading Mafia figures, give Hoover and his gay lover, FBI Assistant Director Clyde Tolson, lavish hospitality and investment "tips". In return, Hoover protects them from criminal investigation and denies the very existence of the Mafia. Media critics are terrorized and/or blackmailed into silence.

Under Hoover, the FBI will keep files on every politician who makes it to to Capitol Hill, providing a rich source of blackmail material with which to control American politicians. Hoover's appearances before the House Appropriations Committee are, therefore, not too stressful. From 1924 to 1971, there will not be a single public hearing into the ever-escalating FBI budget.

Throughout his reign, Hoover will fake crime statistics, misrepresent responsibility for the solution of crimes and terrorize FBI agents and employees who know they must do Hoover's bidding or else.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:01 | 4515372 Colonel Klink
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Ahhhh, the nexus of the modern day police apparatus.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:42 | 4515484 Superdude
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Fuck, I'm so sick of all this shit. People are dickheads and nothing but self-interested. Some like cuffs and bearded men, some like the NFL which has both. Point is, thre is no conspiracy, you just have people with different levels of inflence and clout acting in thier own interests. We'd all do the same if we had the chance. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:20 | 4515567 Anusocracy
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Too many people want to make their interests your interests.

And force is the chosen method of attainment.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:28 | 4516002 Maximilien Robe...
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Too many people want to make their interests your interests.


Correct.  You can "pursuade" through two means.  Force _or_ ideas (propaganda).   Too many people (government and other collectives) make their interests your interests through both of those means.  In intellectual circles, control through ideas is ALWAYS prefered as it allows the collective or group to expand without eliminating agents to expand the idea.

Founding fathers knew these inate corruptions existed within ourselves and hence created the concept that no man must be above a law.   Where a law was the very thing to protect us from ourselves and our inate desire to make our own interests that of others.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:41 | 4516049 headhunt
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Superdude - that is Super Fucked Up

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:10 | 4515405 KickIce
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Not new but maybe a new twist?  They don't care about the MSM as they already own them or have bought them off, hell,most ofthem would rather talk about Justin Beiber than the NSA anyways. What they care about is the "rogue" journalist or more specifically those on the internet that dare publish the truth.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:29 | 4515819 Mentaliusanything
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Compehension 101 could not have made it any clearer. It is the key to keeping them honest and accountable. National security START at home. Read the transcripts of President JF Kennedy on "freedom of the Press"

“Ladies and gentlemen. The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society. And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago, that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify it.

Even today, there is little value in opposing the thread of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in assuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it’s in my control. And no official of my administration whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press or the public the facts they deserve to know.

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence, on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. (VN:  This description tells us he not only knew their tactics already, but he knew “WHO” by this time as well.)

It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. It’s mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.

No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding, and from that understanding comes support or opposition, and both are necessary.

I’m not asking your newspapers to support an administration. But I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers, I welcome it. This administration intends to be candid about its errors. For as a wise man once said, an error doesn’t become a mistake until you refuse to correct it. We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors. And we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed, and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker, Solon, decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy.

That is why our press was protected by the First Amendment, the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution, not primarily to amuse and to entertain, not to emphasis the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply give the public what it wants, but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crisis and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

This means greater coverage and analysis of international news, for it is no longer far away and foreign, but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improve the understanding of the news as well as improve transmission. And it means finally that government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security.

And so it is to the printing press, to the recorder of man’s deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news, that we look for strength and assistance. Confident that with your help, man will be what he was born to be, free and independent.

The article is reproduced in accordance with Section 107 of title 17 of the Copyright Law of the United States relating to fair-use and is for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:47 | 4515331 alien-IQ
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And some Americans still have the audacity to criticize Putin?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:12 | 4515551 WTF_247
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Imagine is a revolution started in one of the states in Canada that is a major pipeline corridor for oil/gas to the US and Canada and the exports to the globe.  Secessionissts decide to overthrow the local govt and snatch control.  

Do you actually think that the US would sit here with rhetoric?  Do you think they would criticize the govt of Canada for stopping it?  

In less than 24 hours we would have troops in place to fight/overthrow that shit - no questions asked.

the same could be said of Mexico - the drug cartels overtake the oil/gas pipelines to US/Mexico and the globe.

Somehow its different when its on the other side of the world.  If it happened here we would not even be having the discussion - the military would already be taking charge.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:57 | 4515838 Leraconteur
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Your analogy is total nonsense.


It's a sovereign nation.

It's like the Philippines - formerly ours, now not ours and it can determine its own fate.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:48 | 4515332 PeaBird
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HAHAHA...And Hillary believes Putin is the new Hitler??? Fuck that's some funny shit...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:32 | 4515457 Al Huxley
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She just SAYS that, she doesn't really believe it.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:18 | 4515335 TeamDepends
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Litter on side of highway makes chief sad, so shut up.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:48 | 4515337 Dr. Engali
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These fuckers aren't going to quit until they take away what little freedoms we have left if they aren't stopped first.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:07 | 4515393 NoDebt
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We hold these so-called "truths" to be self-evident, except that nobody can define what self-evident means to any given individual who may or may not believe in said "truths".  Therefore, all that follows is hereby null and void.  Trust us, you won't miss your freedoms hardly at all. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:50 | 4515340 Colonel Klink
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The people need to try and convict him for high crimes and misdemeanors agains the American people.  In addition he need to be tried and convicted for treason and unconstitutional acts against the same.

Then hanged!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:17 | 4515427 Road Hazard
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Tried and convicted where, Moscow? Look around....... the courts/justUS system in 'murica is a farce. Bush and his puppet master Cheney weren't tried for treason when they took the US to war against a man that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and never had any WMDs. No bankers were prosecuted for crashing the banking system in 2008 (and continue doing God's work til this day).... Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS scandals, illegal detentions, droning of innocent women and children, toppling foreign governments, Syria and "proof" of chemical weapon use, and on and on and on. End result, nothing will ever change. Sure, the people that are awake know what needs to be done but we aren't organized and there isn't enough of us. The rest of the sheep are to busy watching celebrities on TV whore themselves in front of the camera and watching their local sports team. As others  have said, we deserve our fate, 100%! I fear that as time marches on, the US sheep will continue to be a bunch of ignorant pussies about what is trully going on in the world and how corrupt our government is and will gladly help the goons round us up and cheer as we're executed.

As in Japan, the NSA will get their wish and anyone that publishes state secrets or rather, stories that embarrass the state, will face HUGE fines and definitely be thrown in prison for 50+ years if not outright executed on live TV as an example to other "traitors".

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:01 | 4515528 Colonel Klink
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At least one can dream, can he?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:53 | 4515341 erg
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Full court retard at subjugation in motion.

Unmask, unmask...and the red death held sway over all.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:50 | 4515342 Bernank Sheeple
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Snowden is a HERO!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:50 | 4515345 Colonel Klink
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Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:20 | 4515435 LosOsos
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"Snowden’s surveillance revelations – which he referred to only as “media leaks” – was complicating his ability to get congressional support for a bill that would permit the NSA and the military Cyber Command he also helms to secretly communicate with private entities like banks about online data intrusions and attacks."


Right... cause the NSA doesn't already secretly communicate with private entities such as banks and google and the media is allowed to report freely on whatever issue. I'm still not sure what to make of Snowden, but this just seemed like pure jawboning. The NSA, or any agency of the federal government for that matter, don't give a shit about whether somethings 'legal' or not. This is just a little PR to feed the illusion that there are still restrictions on the federal govt's power and that we still have our 'freedoms'.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:51 | 4515347 Meat Hammer
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And the average American responded with, "What's an amendment?"

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:41 | 4515827 Angus McHugepenis
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Meat my friend... Acts, Statutes, Bylaws... Amendments this, Amendments that... it's all part of controlling you in THEIR game and making you think you were born into this Corporate rule of so called "law". It ain't law. It's legalese speak. Do you work at Wal-Mart? No?... then why would you submit yourself to Wal-Marts corporate bylaws, etc? The company you work for, do you follow their rules when you go home for the day? We live 24/7 believing this bullshit that was hammered into us since birth.

What are the rules of Society? Who makes them? THE FUCKING LAW SOCIETY! Who gave them the power to make rules on your behalf? Do you belong to any Law Society? Do you think if you tried writing your own Laws that they would carry any weight with the Society that has all the law enforcement and guns on their side? (so far).

Look what happens in Ukraine. There is no law anymore. UN politicians are literally run out of town shortly after landing at the airport. The veil is off this scam we've grown up with and been brainwashed with. I don't know about you, but I'm looking to take some of it back and make the politicians and bankers suffer for this.

End of rant.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:34 | 4515925 GetZeeGold
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And the average American responded with, "What's an amendment?"


Who needs amendments when you have entitlements?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:59 | 4515359 Meat Hammer
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Taking away our freedom for our own good will ALWAYS be their mantra. Roll the fucking guillotines already.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:56 | 4515361 Johnny Cocknballs
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So... do people here know that journalists dont actually have special rights under the Constitution and "the press" meant the printed word {in addition to speech - the spoken word}?

The NYT is a corporation...

We all have as much freedom from government restrictions on speech {an immunity, not a privilege}...

The question is, why don't we have the statutory protections journalists get?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:25 | 4515816 Angus McHugepenis
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Johnny: You can only claim your "rights" if you play the game in their arena. If you want "statutory protections" then you must embrace your slavery and be happy under the umbrella of your masters.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:28 | 4516000 headhunt
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Brilliant Angus - i was going to reply to JCB but your answer is much more eloquent.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:56 | 4515362 NoDebt
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He thinks the local weather report should be classified information.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:59 | 4515369 cherry picker
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We should post a reward for all those politicians and people in the NSA and CIA etc. who flagrantly violate human rights and constitution, ship them off to the Hague for a fair trial and see what happens.

Maybe after accountability sets in we will see some hope and change.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:02 | 4515370 Caviar Emptor
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BUT...they ARE willing to supply drugs with that!!! : weed becoming legal, pill mills, war on drugs fading...


"You do look glum! What you need is a gramme of soma."

"The warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! "

-Aldous Huxley, Brave New World


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:06 | 4515386 Maximilien Robe...
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Most of the old guard of most of the intelligence and security agencies was raised in a time before Internets, Facebook and Twitter.  It's not even 20 years old from a consumer perspective (think appliance like TV).   The agencies were raised in a time when the most they had to worry about was asymmetrical communication or propaganda with very NARROW corridors of which to control or influence information.

The reality is, that gig is up and the elders in these institutions are being caught off guard with no playbook, their minds and infrastructure haven't evolved fast enough to keep up with the game.  They're trying, but they're making mistakes and everybody sees it DAILY.  Or the playbook they have is to make it up as they go, panic, make rash panic decisions, breaking the success pattern they've had for hundreds/thousands? of years being able to spoon-feed a controlled diet.

Let us hope that the noobs in these administrations (and all citizens) are more like Snowden than these gems.   That they realize they are enabling a culture of "those above the law" through their actions and interpretations under the false pretense of nationalism and security.

Don't start with the courts for your rationalization.  Start with reading the constitution, the bill of rights and then ask yourself how what you're doing personally in your own life or occupation either facilitates the usurping of those principles by enabling others to abuse the citizenry or defends them.




Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:12 | 4515416 Caviar Emptor
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We have invited them into our lives with open arms. In the name of 'security' and 'preserving American Values'. What was labeled "Conservative" drifted down the slippery slope to Fascism. And as we slide on down the slope, count on fewer freedoms in the name of "security" and "traditional values". Only a terrorist would disagree. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:23 | 4515442 Maximilien Robe...
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Yes, we only need look in the mirror.  That goes for us the government wonk in service to the people and the people themselves.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:34 | 4515461 Lux Fiat
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I marvel at those who argue that freedom must be destroyed in order to preserve it.  Perhaps they think that if you dress up the shriveled dessicated corpse, and put some lipstick on it, no one will be able to tell the difference, or care? 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:23 | 4515989 headhunt
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If you are saying conservatism in the US has drifted into fascism you are wrong.

It is the leftist such as Pelosi, Reid, Clinto and 0bama that are dragging it's citizens into the world of fascism and much worse the world of communism, 'Conservative' has nothing to do with the decline of America, unless of course you take Pelosi, Reid, Clinton and 0bamas word for it.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:09 | 4515402 Lux Fiat
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Someone mentioned Harry Elmer Barnes in a comment not so long ago.  When I have the time, I will have to do some more in depth reading, but a quote in the opening pages of "Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace" attributed to John Quincy Adams seems as on point today as it did almost two centuries ago. 

"America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.  She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.  She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.  She will recommend the general cause by the coutnenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.  She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign indepence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom.  The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force."

Usurp the standards of freedom indeed - at home and abroad.

As I look at past writings, near and far, in the context of current events, I am continually reminded of the opening to the 1st LOTR movie:  "And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost..."

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:37 | 4515464 Maximilien Robe...
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Took a bit to digest, but great point.  Fiat currencies are the primary underpinning enabling America or any country to go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.   It's easy to rationalize peace today for pain sometime way later.  Everyone signs up fast.

Which leaves us with an ugly paradox.  Should a nation adrift in an ocean of warring fiat currency states be the first to go non-fiat and rest only on it's principle moral belief that it's more justified to survive while the surrounding enemies print to eternity to usurp resources to crush the "good guy"?

As wonderful as the non-fiat money based commerce system sounds in principle, its unlikely that we can return to that era without gross bloodshed.   Along with a return to principles trumping comfort for a long long time while things rebuild at the expense of many.   I just don't see people signing up for that option. 

Even if there is a great reset, what higher power is going to mandate everyone to a non-fiat commerce system?  Fonestar?  All it would take is one Fonestar hater to go back to fiat and the balance of power is gone.  Cheating (Fiat) enables a superior advantage in nature.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:09 | 4515544 Lux Fiat
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I viewed the quote through the lens of foreign policy, and the ill effects that involvement has on various parties.  Fiat, non-fiat monetary systems - both are corruptible.  And yes, cheating has often benefitted those, at least in the short-run, who cheated first. 

I'm not a fan of sudden stops and starts, but the ongoing foreign and fiscal policy trends do not lead to good outcomes imo.  We compromised our national security when we allowed our debt to get out of hand, and then tried to mask the extent of it, and became colonial.  The why (both debt accumulation and then "denial") is an interesting area for speculation. 

The gov't is getting more aggressive re trying to kill the messenger as the situation deteriorates, instead of addressing the underlying problems and causes.  Similarly, not a good path longer-term, and a sign of increasing desperation from my perspective.  I'm no fan of collapse or sudden massive dislocation and the huge amount of human misery it would bring, yet it seems our continued denial and course increase the odds of a serious "black swan" with each passing month.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:12 | 4515414 Anonymouse
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An Official Secrets Act.  That's what we need.  That will certainly stop all that sniping about housing starts, seasonal adjustments, employment statistics, etc.  That's national security info, you know.


BTW, out five-year plan is ahead of schedule, with production of beets 5.6% above last year.  All sectors growing strongly, except for straw mattress production which has been hindered by saboteurs and those with capitalist leanings.


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:15 | 4515973 headhunt
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the waiting line for straw mattress's is ridiculous!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:17 | 4515423 Moon Pie
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he done chewed up all his whisky wine...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:17 | 4515424 Joebloinvestor
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This guy has no intention of protecting anybodies rights, including Americans.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:19 | 4515430 Judge Crater
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The way Georgetown University stifled reporters' questioning of Alexander shows the way the military-industrial-congressional-university complex works.  The truth about incompetence and corruption threatens the six and seven figure salaries of the guys who act as the fascist caretakers of the United States.  Georgetown University's president earns $875,000 a year.  With a salary like that (even if it is much lower than NYU's president's salary and comes with no $2 million longevity bonus soon due), Georgetown's leadership will play ball with the crooks in Congress.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:22 | 4515440 Leraconteur
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Recently, what came out with the justices in the United Kingdom … they looked at what happened on Miranda and other things, and they said...



This is how PC and destructive ideas are floated in the USA. A law journal, judge or other figure will read a UK or EU ruling (that eviscerates the Rights guaranteed in The Constitution) and will then trial it up in a Federal or Local District Court and get it 'in the chute' on the way to prescedence and the SCOTUS.

Another way these ideas are tried out is that they are read in UK law journals, printed as an Op-Ed in a UK broadsheet or daily, and then picked up as an article in the dozens of USA alternative weeklies. If no outcry results it is then printed as an MSM Op-Ed, goes to cable, hits the talking points, and moves to Congress.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:30 | 4515454 stant
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it appears we cant handle the truth. so hedge as best you can

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:32 | 4515456 Peter Pan
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General Keith Alexander is only expressing the complete contempt the government has for freedom of speech, freedom of information and accountability.

At this rate, I would say that in less than 10 years, the USA will be the next North Korea.

In the years to come citizenship will mean nothing and voting papers will come with the boxes already ticked.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:36 | 4515466 Peter Pan
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Even more disturbing than Alexander's statements is the worrying fact that the good run of banker deaths seem to have come to an end.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:36 | 4515467 kchrisc
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The gun and badge thug asked me if I raped her. I replied, "That's a matter of national security. Sorry, I can't answer that question." They beat me into a "Kelly Thomas" coma.


"It isn't a ghost, but Article 3, Section 3 and Principle IV that will haunt them."

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:46 | 4515493 the0ther
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I like the speculation that Alexander might be delusional. Isn't this the same fag who spent millions to rebuild his NSA command center to look just like the bridge of the Enterprise? 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:48 | 4515497 zionhead101
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Singapore Admits that BITCOIN Princess May Have Been Murdered

Singapore police are investigating what they have called the "unnatural" death of a 28-year-old American woman who ran a small exchange that traded virtual currencies, including bitcoins, from the Asian city state.

Autumn Radtke, chief executive of First Meta Pte Ltd, was found dead at her Singapore home on Feb 26.

"The police are investigating the unnatural death," a police spokesman said late on Wednesday when asked about media reports Radtke had been found dead last week. He gave no more details.

First Meta said in a statement on its website that its team was shocked and saddened by the tragic loss of its CEO.

"Our deepest condolences go out to her family, friends and loved ones. Autumn was an inspiration to all of us and she will be sorely missed."

Before heading up First Meta in 2012, Radtke had business development roles at tech start-ups Xfire and Geodelic Systems, according to information on her LinkedIn profile.

First Meta runs an exchange for virtual currencies and assets. It initially functioned as an online trade platform for the currency used in online world Second Life, and then expanded to other games. Last year it allowed users to sell bitcoins for dollars. That feature is not currently available.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:51 | 4515503 Maximilien Robe...
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From WB7 via Twitter.  Apropos.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:52 | 4515504 zionhead101
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These are the hottest photos I have seen yet,... most interesting is close relationship with Sir Richard Branson and "Autumn".

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:56 | 4515516 zionhead101
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TRIAD/YAKUZA Send NSA a "CLASSIC MAFIA" Gift; A Dead Fish in Paper Wrapped Package

Despite Radtke's decision to base herself in South East Asia, the region has not taken well to bitcoin or digital currency exchanges..

On the day that Radtke was discovered in her Singapore apartment, Vietnam's communist government said trading in bitcoin and other electronic currencies is illegal, and warned its citizens not to use or invest in them.

A central bank statement late on Thursday didn't spell out penalties for those who disobeyed the instruction, but it said that virtual currencies are linked to money laundering and other illegal activities.

The collapse of the major bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox in Tokyo this week has drawn renewed attention to the currency.

Late last year, China banned its banks and payment systems from handling bitcoin. Thailand earlier put a blanket ban on its use.

Currencies like bitcoin are unnerving financial regulators in Asia and elsewhere because they are outside of their control. Established banks don't like them because people can send the money around the world with any fees.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:01 | 4515526 Dr. Destructo
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Now that I'm secure enough to enjoy my freedoms, I think I'll go ahead and enjoy my freedoms.

Wait, how does that work?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:19 | 4515557 Schmuck Raker
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"A-yo ice, man. i'm working on this term paper for college. what's the
First amendment?

Freedom of speech, that's some motherfuckin' bullshit
You say the wrong thing, they'll lock your ass up quick
The fcc says "profanity - no airplay"?
They can suck my dick while i take a shit all day
Think i give a fuck about some silly bitch named gore?
Yo pmrc, here we go, raw
Yo tip, what's the matter? you ain't gettin' no dick?
You're bitchin' about rock'n'roll, that's censorship, dumb bitch
The constitution says we all got a right to speak
Say what we want tip, your argument is weak
Censor records, tv, school books too
And who decides what's right to hear? you?
Hey pmrc, you stupid fuckin' assholes
The sticker on the record is what makes 'em sell gold
Can't you see, you alcoholic idiots
The more you try to suppress us, the larger we get

[you have the right to remain silent]
Fuck that right! i want the right to talk
I want the right to speak, i want the right to walk
Where i wanna, yell and i'm gonna
Tell and rebel every time i'm on a
Microphone on the stage cold illin'
The knowledge i drop will be heard by millions
We ain't the problems, we ain't the villains
It's the suckers deprivin' the truth from our children
You can't hide the fact, jack
There's violence in the streets every day, any fool can recognise that
But you try to lie and lie
And say america's some motherfuckin' apple pie
Yo, you gotta be high to believe that
You're gonna change the world by a sticker on a record sleeve
Cos once you take away my right to speak
Everybody in the world's up shit creek

Let me tell you about down south
Where a motherfucker might as well not even have a mouth
Columbus, georgia, said they'd lock me up

If i got on the stage in my show and said "fuck"
So i thought for a minute and said "no,
I wasn't even gonna do a damned show"
Cos for me to change my words from my rhymes
Is never gonna happen cos there's no sell outs on mine
But i vowed to get those motherfuckers one day
They even arrested bobby brown and cool j
Yo, they got their's comin', cos i'm mad and i'm gunnin'
Homeboys, and there's no runnin'
I'm gonna tell you how i feel about you
No bull, no lies, no slack, just straight fact
Columbus, georgia, you can suck my dick
You ain't nothin' but a piece of fuckin' shit on the damned map

Freedom of speech, let 'em take it from me
Next they'll take it from you, then what you gonna do?
Let 'em censor books, let 'em censor art
Pmrc, this is where the witch hunt starts
You'll censor what we see, we read, we hear, we learn
The books will burn
You better think it out
We should be able to say anything, our lungs were meant to shout
Say what we feel, yell out what's real
Even though it may not bring mass appeal
Your opinion is yours, my opinion is mine
If you don't like what i'm sayin'? fine
But don't close it, always keep an open mind
A man who fails to listen is blind
We only got one right left in the world today
Let me have it or throw the constitution away

Outro (jello biafra)

What they're trying to do with radio, with this, uh, mccarron-walter
Act and a lot of other ways, is start by saying that they're
Protecting the public from wicked rock bands, or girlie magazines, or
Whatever. but, if you follow the chain of dominoes that falls down,
What they're really trying to do is shut off our access to information

If they can't do it by law they know there's other ways to do it."


[BTW, if you've never heard of Jello Biafra I suggest you research WHY."

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:16 | 4515562 kchrisc
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The American people's first and foremost weapon is to just quit paying, Let them try to maintain their house of cards ponzi without the stolen labor and wealth of their victims, the American people. They can't.

Then just quit obeying and playing.


The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying , quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: Is there really any place for these sociopaths and criminals in a restored civil and Constitutional society?!
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:30 | 4515580 Kina
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Under Hoover, the FBI will keep files on every politician who makes it to to Capitol Hill, providing a rich source of blackmail material with which to control American politicians. Hoover's appearances before the House Appropriations Committee are, therefore, not too stressful. From 1924 to 1971, there will not be a single public hearing into the ever-escalating FBI budget.


The NSA collects everything just in case somebody becomes somebody important one day and thus they have stuff to blackmail them...they hope.  The little people they can crush simply by abusing law and justice. 


The only way around the NSA is for the young generation to know how to play the game. Be aware that all you say, do, write, view etc is being collated ad nauseum. Under your own identity be Mr bland normal. Have a second identity totaly devoid in every respect, including your location and contacts. 

From your coffee shop etc be the person you want to be  without your normal phone or computer, credit card  etc.......from your home and work location act the umnremarkable person for the official records. This is how young people should start out and make habit. Have some parallel lives...being aware of how modern techonolgy works.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:51 | 4515657 shinobi-7
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You are right. Unfortunately, this is also 1984 that you are describing.

But remember that the government learns from its mistakes too and improves the tools of control day after day...

It escapes me how people do not understand that these tools are especially potent against powerful people. The people you really want to control is not me or you, its Obama and Congres.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:21 | 4515699 zionhead101
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Powerful people like Petrayus should probably not have been using a computer, and certainly Spitzer should not have been using his personal credit card at a whore house.

The trouble is these 'leaders' are fucking stupid.

Petraeus didn't know shit about computers, or the internet or how it works, he was a political soldier, but he should have had some geek taking care of his privacy.

Leaders will always get caught cuz their watched so close, ... us little guy's we just got to make simple changes.

Like NEVER carry a phone of any kind if you want to be invisible, never drive a plated vehicle, ... never use a computer anywhere or anyplace, never use an ATM machine ....

People who don't know this shit at all, are fucked.


The above said, the majority of CROOKS, are taking photo's  of their crimes and pasting on facebook, law enforcement has never been easier.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:16 | 4515693 zionhead101
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You would be surprised how much they know about you, they  watch every email you ever write, alias and all, on every IP you ever use, and catalog and co-reference all.

They keep this shit forever,

Time to Time I have to take these GUBMINT challenge tests to prove my identity, and during the challenge its YES/NO, but goes on for an hour. The questions I get, and addresses, and aliases are all stuff I forgot from 40+ years ago, ... where do they get this shit, every email address I have ever used even on TOR, and using VPN's the 'Challenge" will say do you know this person? Of course for all my aliases, and all my phony emails I say "NO", but you know they know your lying, cuz they really do know all, and its not hard, given that they have been collecting ALL since day-one of the internet, back to the 1960's.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:37 | 4515719 the tower
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They don't have to collect anything to blackmail you. The main thing is that they have access to your hardware and accounts, so they can place incriminating material on there. See, it's not all about snooping... it's about controlling.

No-one should have parallel lives, be who you are, and stand up for who you are.

Then again, it might be a good idea to stop chatting on Facebook, Yahoo, Google et al, and stop using "free" E-Mail services like Gmail. Ditch messengers like Whatsapp and switch to more secure ones, like Threema, cause you don't want to share all of your discussions openly...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:06 | 4515959 headhunt
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First rule of fight club.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 01:41 | 4515588 A Dollar Short
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Snowden was the real first.  More will come, this corrupt tyrannical government needs addressing..



Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:07 | 4515683 mrmister
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They will when the US dollar becomes useless. It will be a free for all.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:12 | 4515689 zionhead101
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Yes, and that's the BIG BUTT, so long as the NSA provides INFORMATION, the USD will only get more powerful, and more STRONG.

Like SKYNET, the NSA needs to be taken out at HQ, but these are things that are years away.

IMHO we'll all be dead before the USD takes a tank, there is TOO much MURDER, behind the USD, and nobody is willing to come forward.


USA would have to do something really fucking stupid and get caught lose complete trust from the MEDIA, but for the past 60+ as you know the MEDIA is now the 4th esatate, and they're going to go along, cuz the MEDIA leads to great GUBMINT jobs with retirement.


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:44 | 4515831 Leraconteur
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I think you are mistaking outcomes with reach.

The USA has its fingers in all pies, yes.

But this is having the opposite effect. No one believes the MSM or DOD narrative any longer and even beer-chuigging sports fans know the jig-is-up. They just want the party to go on a little while longer.

Few trust the USA at any level any longer, and this is just going to deteriorate.

It's classic End of Empire behaviour, USA Internet Age style.

Looks more and more like Hunger Games film #5 with each passing day.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:01 | 4515608 ebworthen
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Dear General Alexander,

Please do your fellow Citizens and The Constitution a favor and take your service pistol and your deluded self out back and BLOW YOUR OWN HEAD OFF you traitorous piece of shit.

I hope maggots feast on your rancorous corpse and the Devil dances on your soul.

You aren't protecting us from a damn thing, you turd.

Have a nice day :-)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 02:41 | 4515651 shinobi-7
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These are the Dr Strangelove people who brought us armageddon as a solution to the cold war. I do not think they are evil per se but clearly their mindset do not allow them to understand how dangerous the consequences of their ideas can be. This said, some of these people are evil! But how can you oppose them? Enlightment has run its course and was a failure in the end. What else, then?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:06 | 4515676 mrmister
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Alexander is a TRAITOR and most people in the computer community know, even Richard Clark is publicly saying it. Alexander is upset because Snowden is being promoted as a hero and the main attraction for SXSW in Austin. Richard Clark was not.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:09 | 4515685 zionhead101
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Alexander is TRAITOR 'YES', but never underestimate the power of the gold plated paycheck, benny package, pension, and health-care stuff that mere mortals could only dream of,

Multi-Millionaires don't get the pensions that these NSA guys gets after doing a few years.

Thus its easy to be snide or sarc and talk shit, but when the rubber meets the road, money talks and bullshit walks.


With INFINITE FIAT, everybody in these jobs get the equivalent of a $10M annunity, starting when their fairly young, and they get treated very well all along.


In spite of the 'talk', for every guy/gal that disses the NSA/CIA or GOOGLE in public you can be sure there are 1,000's applying for these jobs.

So Alexander will keep smiling in public and go along with controlled left-wing press, but remember he and his crew are the ones smiling when its game-over.


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 03:24 | 4515703 teslaberry
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WHO CARES. you are assuming the nsa and executive branch don't already control the effective commercial large scale press through virtual means. 

they also log and record everyone who visits zerohedge and comments on these boards. 


you think they really need to change the 'law' to prohibit dissident speech. if they really really need to, they'll kill journalists just to make a point to ther journalists. 

if a new 'law' is passed. it won't change squat, but quite possibly the backlash might be helpful in speeding up the collapse of trust in the body politic--the electorate.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 06:59 | 4515805 Supernova Born
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Every time you hear the "free" world is creating challenges for Putin remember one thing.

Putin gave Edward Snowden asylum.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:01 | 4515951 headhunt
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That was only to poke the US in the eye and probably to give him enough time to gain access to the data Snowden had.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 04:50 | 4515800 Bruce Flea
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Megalomania has no cure. The only effective way to stop it is sudden, catastrophic disruption of the neural pathways.


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 06:04 | 4515840 MickV
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How many times? There is no "United States" or "US Constitution" or "1st Amendment". It was all done away with by the installation of foreign agent Barack Hussein Obama, domestic enemy of the US. He is not a natural born Citizen, and was born BRITISH, of a British subject father, by his own account.

When there is no legal executor of the laws then there is no "law", and no Republic, there is only "democracy", i.e tyranny of the majority, where the law is only what evil men say it is, and what the critical mass of his sychophants allow the domestic enemy executive to decree, in the guise of "fairness" and "protection".

It will only begin to end when the Domestic enemy Obama is exterminated from the people's house. If he reaches the end of his term the Republic is finished. As of now even the "subversive" Zero Hedge refuses to discuss the ineligibility of the de fact "President", so the chances of saving the Republic tend toward ZERO--- plan accordingly.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:59 | 4515948 headhunt
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I have no proof ithat the President is not a citizen but the whole world can clearly see by his own actions he is a communist. A tall Putin with no balls, if you will.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:57 | 4516298 kurt
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Guy goes to a masquerade party wrapped in plastic

"Sir, I can clearly see your nuts."

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:40 | 4517417 MickV
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I can plainly see you are stupid

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:39 | 4517413 MickV
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The requirement is "natural born Citizen", and he already admits that he is not by admitting that his father was never a US Citizen. As far as whether he is a US Citizen, Obama has produced NO PROOF that he IS a US Citizen. A pic on a website is proof of nothing.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 06:29 | 4515866 silvertrain
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what happened to --if you see something say something..

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:57 | 4515946 headhunt
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It is now 'See something, check with your government minder and see if you can say something'

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:51 | 4515941 Drifter
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Corporations don't have 1st amendment rights.  They don't have any rights.  Corporations are created by the govt, therefore under full control of govt.  Their activities can be restricted any way govt sees fit.

When you go to work in the morning for a corporation, when you're on their time clock, you leave your 1st amendment rights behind, along with all your other individual rights.

So yes, govt CAN control what you say when you're on a corporation's time clock.


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:20 | 4515984 blindman
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no one in the media even knows how too ask
an intelligent question anymore, it has been
bred out of the species.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 08:46 | 4516065 Maximilien Robe...
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You don't get eyeballs and engagement from the citizenry through intelligent and provoking discourse.  You get it through stimulating sexual triggers, specific colors, lighting with good looks and symmetry.   Hot anything will always cause more mental engagement than true mental work on both the part of the news and the recipient.

Even on ZH, take the RT reporter resigning yesterday.  Most of the dialogue was spent on whether she was hot or not and discounting much of the underlying motivators regarding whether her actions were legitimate.   Was she coerced? genuine? those were secondary subtopics and often ridiculed with more on how hot she was.

Hot tends to breed out smart and suppress critical thinking, our genetic weaknesses make us that way.  The two rarely come in the same genetic code (yet).

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:07 | 4516126 blindman
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good points.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:20 | 4516158 kurt
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Alexander is Hoover and McCarthy with a big fucken computer and more dirt that Kansas. Somebody's gotta stop the freak like expansion of the StaziNazi.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:31 | 4516195 Papasmurf
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There wouldn't be media leaks if there wasn't wrong doing. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 09:42 | 4516240 blindman
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