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US Warship Given Permission To Cross Bosphorus, Enter Black Sea
Yesterday it was two Russian and one Ukrainian warships which had crossed the Bosphorus in direction Crimea, today it is the Americans. As Hurriyet reports, Turkish authorities have given permission to a U.S. Navy warship to pass through the Bosphorus within the next two days as fears grow that the standoff between Russia and Ukraine and the West over Crimea could soon become militarized.
Turkish sources, speaking with the Hürriyet Daily News on March 5, declined to elaborate on the name of the U.S. warship. The same officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, however, noted that it was not the USS George H.W. Bush nuclear aircraft carrier as suggested in some news reports, as it did not meet the standards specified by the 1936 Montreux Convention in terms of weight.
The U.S. Navy ship to pass through the straits will conform to the convention’s standards, the sources said.
According to the Montreux Convention, the total weight of military ships that non-littoral states to the Black Sea may deploy to the body of water cannot exceed 45,000 tons.
As a reminder we have been tracking the CVN-77 for the past week, ever since it crossed the straits of Gibraltar and as of yesterday it was in Piraeus, Greece. It is also worth noting that while the Montreux Convention provides guidelines, it is not restrictive, which means that should the US really want to, it will have no problems getting its aircraft carrier into the Black Sea.
That said, even a simple frigate or cruiser in proximity to a boatload of Russian and Ukraine warships already on edge, will make an already combustible situation extremely volatile with an abundance of false flag provocation opportunities, which those who are most interested in escalating military events, will be delighted to take advantage of.
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P-800 Yakhont will make that thing fish food.
Vid: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=08f_1355604363
"You can check out any time you like, but you can, never leave."
Probably just there to check out and tow the USS Taylor before it can never leave...
Probably exactly what the warmongers want to happen to it.
And where is LHD-5 now?
The Russians won't bother them but we better be very worried about a terroist attack on that "little lake." Our warship is sailing into some extremely dangerous waters with backup a long ways away. Perfect time and place for a Muzzie attack. Wouldn't want to be on an American ship in those waters.
Just calm the fuck down, everybody! It's just an "exercise"... lol
Somehow it just doesn't seem intimating. Face it, the Criminal MIC, DOD & Pentagram have all lost their swagger. They are nothing more than toy soldiers on the world stage.
Either way, essentially, russia can consider this an act of war due to all the treaties and legal bull shit... Nevermind the fact that this ship is like a steakbone being dangled in front of a pack of extremely hungry wolves...
Get ready to glow....
From the Turkish Navy:
This just a short primer on the Montreux Convention that regulates the passage of Merchant and warship through Turkish Straits.
Signed on 20 July 1936, The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits gives Turkey full control over the Turkish Straits, guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime and permits Turkey to remilitarise the Turkish Straits.
Hate to see that thing get stuck on the sandbar...
Calm down boys. US naval vessels go into the Black Sea ALL THE TIME. This is not uncommon. In fact, it would be uncommon if this did not happen when a new carrier enters the MED SEA. The USS Goerge Washington cannot make it into the Black Sea even if Turkey would allow it. It cannot fit under the Bosphorus Bridge connecting the European and Asian sides of Istanbul. The George Washington is too tall. I think the George Washington's superstructure would just squeeze under, but you would have to remove the mast and all the very expensive and finely calibrated electrical equipment bolted onto it.
It is likely any US warships entering the Black Sea will make a port of call in Costanta, Rumania and or Poti, Georgia which have become the most common liberty parts in the Black Sea.
Some fighting may breakout in the Black Sea as a result of the US ships' presence, but it will probably be limited to within the confines and immediate vicinity of bars and brothels.
Not in the Black Sea, that's for sure.
BULLISH!!!
How come they didn't show it hitting something ? You people are a bunch of stupid fucks.
Watched the video. WTF did the missle go? Did it hit a target? Isn't the point of a video such as this (intimidation) to actually show what happens to the boat it supposedly hit? Im just saying.....
Busted one out of the mothballs.
It sure seems like a tactical and strategic blunder to move any US warship into the Black Sea. Talk about bottled in. Unless the plan is to get it sunk right in the shallow part (<50ft.) of the Bosporus and bottle the Russian fleet in. Hmmmm....
Its LHD 4 & 5. A carrier group likely needs more area to safely operate. Even the Persian Gild is considered "tight".
Why an LHD? Consider this: Putin is just moving pieces on a chessboard and will not admit they are Russian soldiers.
So call his bluff. Send in helicopters with "relief supplies" for "humanitarian assistance" to the Ukranian soldiers surrounded at bases.
Putin would not dare shoot at them and risk an armed conflict where he refuses to admit he had soldiers.
We've tried that with the UN guy...but "he got bottled up in a cafe" by a bunch of Russian Gangsters.
That "carrier thingy" would only go in there for oversight of the now out of control Russian INVASION of Crimea.
I do agree...now that Russia has announced its intent to engage in "asymmetrical warfare" that that option is now on the table in Crimea.
That would be French, British, American...you name it, "they'll all show up for the Party." This "thing" is moving very rapidly...and has been out control and TOTAL NONSENSE since day one.
The Russians never had any problems actually invading Afghanistan.
That will not be true here.
Obviously we'll have to start having some confidence building measures to prevent a nuclear exchange...but it would appear "this will be done in the context of a hot war."
For all those "Americans" out there pining for a Russian missile to slam into that Carrier and sink her...you might want to think twice because that clearly would mean "boots on the ground" in a MASSIVE way.
Then maybe it's about time for the US to leave other countries alone. Dismantle their 700 foreign bases.
Once again, the US started this. They are solely to blame.
Or maybe it's to show that the US has superior weapon systems.You people are a bunch of dumb fucks,it's amazing that you forgot that the NSA knows everything.
Stupid fucks or dumb fucks, make up your mind already. Shouldn't be hard of a jeenyus on the night shift.
Hmm I wonder. .how long before we hear about Russian war ships off our coast? Not counting the spy ship in Havana harbor.
Or contrails coming up from the surface of the ocean?
Oddly it would not surprise me as a friend sent me a pic of US military helicopters carrying military eqipment buzzing low over homes near the nc/sc border. I believe the route number was 904 and coming down in a wooded area and then take off again. The locals have never seen anything like it before.
Our boys run manoevers out of Camp Lejeune all over SENCland, and have been hard at it for the last three months. Glad to see it, personally-NC makes a prime target in the event of a shooting war, and my Costa Rican retreat has been taken over by Sandinistas.
Dubbya, is that you?
The exercises are normal but appear to be different than what they have been use to seeing as life long residents. We all get complacent with the various exercises clear to the va border.
Tuesday, February 14th, 2012 @ 18:00
"Europe will be his first target and then the United States of America.
Communism will be introduced and woe to those who oppose the reign of the Red Dragon."
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/god-the-father-europe-will-be-firs...
No doubt. But it's what comes "After" that's the real problem, and which may make many of us "Maggot food".
Agreed. I don't like where this is heading. The Big "O" and his band of ferry men are likely to try and "flex their muscles" and then out comes the ben gay!!
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
Send in Arec Barrwin.
Tark to me GOorse.
He's Back :)
yep, the navy is scared to death of that missile... Obama, the one man wrecking crew.
Where is your proof stupid fuck ?
Someone should start an over/under on the price of food vs the price of distractions. That way we can be less surprised. When food prices get too expensive we can expect the "strategic shift" towards MOAR distraction/intervention/entertainment and vice versa.
Does anyone really know what the US has? Like they tell us everything.
You may be correct. But no Aircraft Carrier ever enters waters without support. If it comes to a real fight many will die but they will not only be USN members.
Flame away... but it has been and still is about the projection of power and even though we are in decline we are evil murdering dicks we will not allow an Aircraft Carrier to go down with hurting those who seek its destruction.
If not this aircraft carrier, why continue to show that picture?
Nice composition with a ship before sunset
Crimean cage match! One will stand, one will fall!
Two will enter, one will leave.
How about a loser leave town match? My money's on Vlad.
Aircraft carriers whether belonging to riparian states or not, can in no way pass through the Turkish Straits.
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/implementation-of-the-montreux-convention.en.mfa
http://sam.baskent.edu.tr/belge/Montreux_ENG.pdf
That is a very old-school carrier. Perfect sacrifice.
Unless you happen to be on that old-school carrier...
Part of the cut back on spending and personnel.
Re: Part of the cut back on spending and personnel.
Yeah, to bad it wasn't cut enough to actually limit the ability of the "neo-cons"* to use the Merican nation for their own enrichment.
* Not exactly sure if anybody know what neo means, but what the hell. I like facist better.
Turkey giving its blessing to a showdown, we got that going for us.
Who cares?
CNN says Justin Bieber's jailhouse urinal video is coming soon!
just BTFATH...Bandar said so
MUST BUILD MORE CARRIERS! Get those Ford classes out into the water, people! Cheap at twice the price (and they will be!).
Are Ford class carriers built to withstand a nuclear detonation? Send them all out to sea, maybe they will be the Noah's Ark's of our time.
Who thinks about diet at times of war?
What could possibly go wrong?
On the bright side it will allow Obama to put American servicemen on the ground in Ukraine.
Russia and the US, measuring dicks again.
Women measure men by their dicks.
Men measure men by the size and content of their BALLS!
Vlad = 20lb cannon balls
Obama = 2gram cotton balls
Horrible idea, but not unexpected.
Y'all keep an eye on those Israeli subs, now, ya heaah?
Wouldn't want to be Poland, Germany, Czech Republic, Hungary... Right about now!
They may want to get nostalgic with the old days of the "Iron Curtain" if it continues in that direction. Won't be celebrating with that kind of dust settling.
How about the the two American Flight Engineers on the ISS?
If this continues to heat up they may have a tough time finding a ride home.
oops...
Y'all keep an eye on those Israeli subs, now, ya heaah?
Get ready for False Flag a la "Gulf of Tonkin". Can't trust the DOD.
Israel troops take position off Lebanon border...
That's because... http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/05/353397/israeli-lobby-behind-all-...
The "Peres Troika"
Get ready for False Flag a la "Gulf of Tonkin".
You forgot the U.S.S. Liberty and 9/11. But hey, who knows how many of them have been performed that we know and don't know about?
Wouldn't it be wonderful if someone in the bowels of the CIA got their soul back by getting that "decision list" for the next FF (that we didn't have in 2001) to the public in order to avert the biggest war we've had in 70 years?
It could be the "It's a Wonderful Life" version for 2014!
Hey, if it's good for gold, bring it.
name of the ship? the U.S.S. Liberty II ..
#77... George [Heroin Wanker] Bush II...
Nah, Probably the Lexington II or Indianapolis II.
Just waiting for that Israeli torpedo.
http://turkishnavy.net/2014/03/05/a-primer-on-the-montreux-convention/
Detail at the above link.
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This just a short primer on the Montreux Convention that regulates the passage of Merchant and warship through Turkish Straits.
Signed on 20 July 1936, The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits gives Turkey full control over the Turkish Straits, guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime and permits Turkey to remilitarise the Turkish Straits.
ummm "protest duly noted."
(send free set of binoculars to Sultan so he may observe. And yes...his Navy is free to join the Party too.)
hmmmm.
how quickly "descalating" becomes "escalating" no?
and we haven't even had the trouble-makers show up yet.
always good to hear from the local yokels that "all of the current equipment in the arsenal is obsolete." that means "forward deploy all of it and send it into battle. Start from a clean sheet of paper now."
I mean we've got 1960's era Patton tanks up in these here parts...throw in some new diesels, track and tread and see how those things do.
The trouble makers have been around since the beginning of time, where the hell have you been?
Maybe someone in Istanbul can just go out and snap a picture for us....
Of course that would probably violate some US super secret "photography IS a crime" law....
Looks like Tom Claney picked a bad year to die in.
If the cocksuckers in DC continue to escalate this shit to the point of a shooting war, it might be worth our while to start a civil war JUST SO WE DON'T FUCKING GET NUKED. If our government is going to play games that will result in ICBMs coming our way, and they are playing amateurish games, it should be overthrown.
You hear that NSA? Yeah, I said it. Fuck you.
i wish i could have given you more then just one up arrow
Re; it might be worth our while to start a civil war
You must be one of them anti-Merican hippy liberal pinko pansies that hates Merica, and the troops!
LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT HIPPY, AND GET A GODDAMN HAIR CUT!!!
;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=952h-AJ3Bcg
"He may look dumb but he's a mastermind of espionage."
May as well. We'd have nothing to lose.
War always and everywhere is the people vs their leaders.
Re: their leaders
Well, unless the leaders are shown in the vicinity of slow-motion eagles and flags; then the dumbasses love them.
Can we start by culling lobbyists? Then bankers? then TV heads? Lets leave the fucking pols in place - we can have fun with them in the arena after the purge.
Where the fucvk is Jimmy Hoffa when you really want him?
EV
Ditto. But where... Oh where... Are the Rams among the Sheep?
Made dozens of calls today for inquiries about organizing rallies in Washington asap and all you get from the likes of UNAC, Code Pink and Answer Coalition is "that they are monitoring the situation ever so carefully"...
I hate to say this but you might as well enjoy less time here and more time doing what you love to do most, cause the American people are clueless and worst of all they just don't care! I'm giving up because I just don't see any anger or frustration in the numbers that are essential to changing "it".
Scary isn't it?
"Ditto. But where... Oh where... Are the Rams among the Sheep?"
Well, they be a'plenty at Carolina, but none o' dem can read!
I wonder how much money is wasted floating their little boats around in the global pissing match.
If it was measured in beers, all adults of the world would have at least one beer.
Money is no object when Big-MIC needs to show the dick.
It's for the children.
Takes about 1 hour out of the monthly QE to cover the cost of the entire drill.
Doc, you mean "How much fiat Debt" is wasted...
A: (a) As much as the MIC can back, (b) US taxpayers (who actually pay) can deliver, and (c) US Bonds and USTs foreigners can stomach.
p.s. We all know this is just the DOD trying to front-run (front-sail?) Defense Cuts. They're not fooling ZH.
True, thank you for correcting me.
Wasted? that's profit bitchez...
/s
I wonder how much money is wasted floating their little boats around in the global pissing match.
Too much and we don't want to know at this point!
Well, look at the bright side - some of our youngsters are getting overtime...
You gotta admit. This thing does kinda look like an uncircumcised angry penis...
Don't you think?
What for? To make a green closing on all indices?
Happy Days. Obozo is going to drag us into another war. Ship makers must be breaking out the champagne.
If war breaks out in Crimea in a way that needs to involve significant Russian troop redeployment and/or naval engagements, I think it's a good beat you will see some increased activity in Lebanon and portions of Syria.
NuttyYahoo may have enough confederates in that completely fucked up government of his to go ahead and start bombing sites in Iran, knowing the US will have to come in and babysit.
Does any staunch proponent of interventionism here think the US military can operate against Russia in Ukraine, and against Iran, and still have enough juice to potentially engage China in the Western Pacific, let alone defend the US Homeland?
I think it's a good bet we'll start seeing some Iraq/Syria/Libya type shit in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.
Some people just want to watch the world burn, and all that. But I don't have much confidence in people in government stopping the fuckery. Perhaps the respective militaries will coordinate to defy orders, and the Eagle and Bear will unite after all.
I sorta doubt it though. When people are not fervently anti-war in outlook, it is amazingly easily to lead them into a pro-war hive mind buzz.
If Russia starts shooting in Crimea, you may just see a green light from DC for the IDF to bomb/invade Lebanon and/or Syria. If the IDF could come into possession of a naval base in Syria, we might just have something.
Didn't j you but they wouldn't go after the base - they'll have their hands full without provoking Ivan. It's also very unlikely that Ivan would start the shooting in Crimea.
Ex-IDF or CIA contractors are the likely move on this board...
And as in chess, sometimes the best defense is a good offense....
I don't think it's DC that's keeping the IDF out of Lebanon. I assumed the pressure on Syria was because they're sick of losing to Hezbollah and hope destroying Syria first will make the next invasion easier. It's highly unlikely. The Lebanese just don't want to become the Palestinians.
+42. Thank you for introducing us to new, sound and independent sites real journalism.
Now I know we're in trouble, JC. I agree with your assessment.
We are in trouble
Perhaps this has less to do with Russia and the Ukraine and more to do with taking the US down a notch or three.
They should have sent the USS Ronald Reagan. I hear it makes a good regional nightlight these days.
A ship named Ronald Reagan will probably get lost.
Seems like a good time to invade Cuba.
Re: invade Cuba
I'm likin' the way you think!
A two front war.
What's China up to...
Senkakus
I believe that's now pronounced the Diaoyu islands.
Mangoes, macarena, and cool old cars! Sign me up!
It's only a global game if you play globally.
The Pentagon announced Wednesday that it was sending another six F-15 fighter-bombers to its Baltic air policing operation. This is the first military step the US has taken in relation to the Ukraine crisis. Earlier this week, Moscow placed its surface missiles in Kaliningrad on a state of alert.
Where is Tom Clancy when ya need him.
How can the next generation of males learn to love Merica's mighty war toys without Tom?
Tom's in Gitmo for writing the blueprint for 9/11, dumbass.
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Let's get RRReady to RRRUUUUUUUUMMMMMBBBBBBBBLE !
apologies to Bruce Buffer for involving him in armageddon..........
As 99 luftballons go by.........
That is one big honking RV
Do they let the female swabbies sunbath on the decks?
Nothing like a good tan line.
Amerika...any sniff of oil / gas and they're there like a rat up a drain-pipe.
Crimea - Black Sea & manych canal to oil rich Caspain Sea.
Libya - within days they were flying sorties from Italy
Syria - no 'kinetic action' but obumer was beating his war drum to appease the smelly sheeple
Rwanda - Report released years later said it was not in their interest to intervene even though almost a million people were hacked to death in 90 days.
So from the above, spot which countries have oil?
Ones to watch in the future:
Algeria - has the purest black gold of any country so refining costs are lower.
Azerbaijan - Baku city is an ideal hub for oil from Caspain Sea.
What about the major fire at the Russian Oil Refinery ? located in Tatarstan, Russia
March 4, 2014 - “Neftekamskneftehim” is the largest oil refinery in Europe.Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/In_Russia_Largest_Oil_Refinery_in_Europe_is_on_Fire/100560#ixzz2v8aInXKx
Our two leaders getting ready...Rocky vs. Ivan Drago style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROXe7LZCdto
"I must break you."
...oh wait, 'Merica is already broke.
Daily Telegraph
"A French-built helicopter carrier ship called the Vladivostok - bound for Russia - had its first sea trial today. Unfortunate timing.".
This calls for sanctions against France.
Oh Great, back to the "weapons of mass delusion" Freedum Fries.
yeah, here they come
My home is at DEFCON 3. Standby for DEFCON 2......
Both your inlaws coming over then?
Chicken Kiev
You know there is no point fighting if you find yourself setting your own table.
Watch for the Chinese off the coast of California
that's more delusional than John Kohn is.
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2014/03/05/aipac-friends-explain/
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2014/03/05/ever-shifting-borders-middle-east/
ugh.
It looks like the US is looking for a reason to go to war again. Challenging another country with larger nukes isn't a great idea.
The Russians probably have a couple nukes targeted for Wall Street NY as well as other financial centers.
Re: The Russians probably have a couple nukes targeted for Wall Street NY as well as other financial centers.
Hmmmm.....
Russian Club-K container missile system
http://youtu.be/m7WpFOxdRu4
Prepositioned no doubt. You know they won't wait 30 minutes for an ICBM from half way around the world.
Most guarenteed--probably positioned in sea ports around the US as well as Canada and have been sitting idle for some time.
Where are those Iranian ships again?
were gonna sink there battleship!
were gonna sink there battleship!
bring it on WW3. it's the only way out.
Remember how we got into Iraq? This will be the same thing. Russia is in Ukraine therefore we need to invade Iran.
Is this the next USS Liberty?
The Israelis could send a sub up there, fire a few torpedoes and slip away. Liberty II.
All thanks to the f**king Germans.
http://rt.com/news/israel-dolphin-submarine-nuclear-598/
Not good. These guys want WWIII. I expect that it will not occur as they expect. All those chinese nail salon and buffett employees are probably actually soldiers and they are everywhere. Even small towns now have about 2 or 3 chinese buffetts. I think 90% of americans would be happy to hand Washington D.C. to Putin as a token of peace.