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What The Russian (And Chinese) Papers Are Saying About Ukraine

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

“Putin: Unconstitutional coup is taking place in Ukraine. The U.S halted military cooperation and trade negotiations with Russia”

That’s the headline from a Beijing newspaper– and no surprise that it leans slightly to the Russian side.

Beijing Paper What the Russian (and Chinese) papers are saying about Ukraine

The article goes on:

“Russian president Putin said on 4th March that unconstitutional coup is taking place in Ukraine and Russia will only use the army to Ukraine under “the most extreme situation”. This was the first time that Putin declared this publicly since the escalation of the situation in Ukraine.”

 

“U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry threatened on March 2nd that the U.S and allied countries will take a series of actions including visa ban, capital controls, economic and trade sanctions, etc.”

 

“The White House issued this in a joint statement signed by the Group of Seven member countries and accused Russia of violation of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. The White House also declared temporarily not to participate in the preparation for the G8 summit scheduled for June in Sochi, Russia.”

– and of course :

“Chinese Permanent Representative to the United Nations Liu Jieyi called for dialogue of all sides to resolve differences and maintain regional peace and stability. The united nations security council held an emergency meeting on the Ukrainian situation. Liu Jieyi said in the meeting that China is deeply concerned about Ukrainian situation and condemn the extreme violence in Ukraine.”

Meanwhile, Russian newspaper Itar Tass had this headline (loose translation):

“Putin: Those [foreign nations] who are talking about imposing sanctions on the Russian Federation should first consider the impact of those sanctions”

Russian Paper What the Russian (and Chinese) papers are saying about Ukraine

The article goes on:

“President Putin told reporters that the damage to all countries involved is mutual:

 

“We can cause damage to each other– mutual damage. And this needs to be thought about. . . We believe our actions are fully justified. And any threats to Russia are counterproductive and harmful.”

 

Mr. Putin added that Russia is still preparing for upcoming G8 meeting.

 

“If [the other countries] do not want to come, they don’t have to,” he told reporters .

 

The Russian President also expressed the opinion that the U.S. has historically created its own geopolitical goals, and then dragging along the rest of the world underneath them:

 

“Our partners, especially in the U.S.– they always clearly formulate their geopolitical interests and pursue them very aggressively. Guided by the well-known phrase, “you are either with us or against us,” they drag the rest of the world along, underneath them. And whoever doesn’t go along is beaten and usually killed,” the President told reporters.

 

He emphasized that Russia’s actions come from legitimate grounds.

So on one hand, the Chinese are essentially making the West out to be the belligerents, the Russians to be defending their interests, and the Chinese as the strong diplomats who are pushing for peace.

And on the other hand, the Russian papers are highlighting the utter hypocrisy of US foreign policy– it’s OK for America to invade whatever country it likes, but not for Russia to defend its own interests.

 

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Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:56 | 4513698 Sleepless Knight
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I hate the banks and those they control. Not a sensible soul amoung them.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:57 | 4513704 negative rates
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That's about the size of it.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:06 | 4513754 Fukushima Sam
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"And whoever doesn’t go along is beaten and usually killed,”

Or even ass-raped with a knife!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:10 | 4513776 James_Cole
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Even John Kerry is getting in on the US bashing:

You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests - John Kerry, Meet the Press

Oh wait, he was talking about Russia. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:17 | 4513798 Soul Glow
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John "Silver Spoon"  "Opium Running"  "Ketchup Sniffing" Forbes Kerry?

He's a Skull and Bones no good for nothing fuck for sure.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:23 | 4513824 FL_Conservative
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Foreign policy?  We all know that Obama takes his hypocritic oath very seriously.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:27 | 4514084 Anusocracy
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"I hate the banks and those they control. Not a sensible soul amoung them."

Sorry. The problem is government, without which the banks would operate like an ordinary business and not a government sponsored enterprise.

The symptom is not the cause.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:16 | 4513799 Harbanger
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I'm not a fan of bankers, but what do banks have to do with this?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:27 | 4513830 Rakshas
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Repeated from another thread on ZH earlier today ....... pretty much sums up the Macro picture 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4

 

and with respect to the US in particular look at the historical record from 1900 to present day and the corruption of the US model including the attempted overthrow of Rosevelt, the assassination of Kennedy etc etc etc its all related....... 

and an interesting analysis from more recent events from Mike Rupert that hightlights the contemporary connection between what we know as the US intelligence backbone and Wall Street;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZNvSX3A7pc

 

None of this is recent developments it's been going on for a long long time

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:08 | 4515898 Truthseeker2
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"The EU has become such an economic drain on the rest of the world, especially the US Federal Reserve, that its current and future indebtedness and unfunded liabilities are simply untenable. Hence, the Ukraine is looked to as a temporary savior because of itsmany large and robust markets, well established industrial base and transportation links to Asia, as well as it vast natural resources and raw materials."

Kiev Protests: Another CIA-Coordinated Color Revolution In Progress | Alternative News & Commentary

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http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=2980

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:23 | 4513834 El Vaquero
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You didn't notice that Nuland was pimping an EU/IMF deal for Ukraine?  It's a sweet deal.  For NATO and bankers.  We get NATO bases in Ukraine, get some "control" over the gas lines going through Ukraine into Europe, and bankers get to ass rape Ukraine ala Greece, Spain, etc...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:42 | 4513909 Carl Popper
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We gonna get to ass rape? Sweet!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:53 | 4514856 piceridu
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"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups." Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University
Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:34 | 4514117 The.Harmless.Who
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And who "controls" these banks? 

 

From the Fed (Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, and soon to be Fischer) to Goldman (Blankfein) and JP Morgan (Dimon)

 

What's the link there?  I mean there's a wizard behind the curtain right?  

 

The truth is there - a cabal - an exclusive one at that, guided by Talmudic teachings, are in charge - and in charge in a BIG way. 

 

Oh, and they have many an agent to protect their interests in return for wealth and secondary power - One example? The Zionist Tony Blair is one example - from UK Prime-minister (£70,000 per year salary) to JP Morgan / Glencore-Xstrata / Saudi and Qatar Advisor ( x millions of dollars per year). What? You didn't think he turned multi-millionaire from publishing his excuses for killing thousands of people in the form a memoir.

 

Nah, the world has been in a big mess for years, decades, centuries even - and there's always a cabal proclaiming themselves as a chosen bunch behind it.

 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:14 | 4515907 matrix2012
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WHO CONTROL THESE BANKS??

 

The Federal Reserve Cartel: The Eight Families

 

By DEAN HENDERSON

 

(Part One of a Five-part series)

The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.

According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.[1]

So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks?

This information is guarded much more closely. My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds. This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe.

One important repository for the wealth of the global oligarchy that owns these bank holding companies is US Trust Corporation - founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America. A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley. [2]

[...]

LEFT HOOK by Dean Henderson

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:08 | 4513750 Cacete de Ouro
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Wall St is full of assholes, fakers, and bullshit artists, clinical psychopaths, and dangerous deceptive bastards. Never have so many assholes been in such close proximity to each other, except maybe in London

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:18 | 4513803 outamyeffinway
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You're too kind.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:32 | 4514101 Anusocracy
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And they're only there because of the existence of government.

Otherwise they would have to pimp their sisters for a living.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:07 | 4513757 Henry Chinaski
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I hate the banks and those they control.

The US response is to shower dollars on the Ukraine, multi-billion $$ "aid packages", loan gurarantees...  Pretty obvious that Putin and Obama are on the same side.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:15 | 4513794 sgorem
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the suedo banksters that have any sense are suiciding themselves right and left. i've lost track of the number, but we still have a long way to go to see any substantial progress.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:41 | 4513903 Spumoni
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No souls period.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:00 | 4513715 Battleaxe
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They've got to get another war started soon somewhere (Syria, Iran, Ukraine, ...) so they can make some money!

Iraq & Afghanistan just aren't enough to pump this economy up.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:29 | 4513858 Harbanger
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You have it backwards, wars don't pump up an economy, that's a keynesian sales pitch..  Wars cost money, they don't make money.  Financing wars is one way bankers loot a country, another way is by financing the welfare state with paper money.  We've already been robbed there's nothing left to take.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:53 | 4513950 Stoploss
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WAR IS A RACKET.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:15 | 4514661 turnoffthewater
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So very much true General Butler. And for the latest ordered war would you like to super size that?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:04 | 4513723 Skateboarder
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“Our partners, especially in the U.S.– they always clearly formulate their geopolitical interests and pursue them very aggressively. Guided by the well-known phrase, “you are either with us or against us,” they drag the rest of the world along, underneath them. And whoever doesn’t go along is beaten and usually killed,”

Go Vlad! (love the last sentence)

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:10 | 4513775 McMolotov
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American Exceptionalism means never having to say we're sorry.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:45 | 4514170 TheFourthStooge-ing
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American Deceptionalism means you can't believe a single word.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:22 | 4513825 disabledvet
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can't speak to the comment below...but clearly the President is the President because he won in a free, fair and open election.
Normally all the "protesting" comes from his side of the aisle...although I will say almost every War save the last one was started by the Democratic Party.

To "Skateboarder" all I have to say is "there is no place on earth with more trip wires to unprovoked aggression than in Europe." (Gee, I wonder why that is.)
If someone other than Putin was giving the orders to "go in" I'm all ears.
What I heard at President Putin's NEWS CONFERENCE was basically "i'm the decider" ala George W. Bush.

Obviously the USA has no historical claim over Iraq or Afghanistan...and indeed the world is right to stare and wonder at it all. (I know I do. In a BIG way now.) Having said that...and recognizing Russia's historical claims in Ukraine...or "The Ukraine"...or "Chicken Kiev" or whatever they call it..."this is wrong place to not announce non-invasion then explain perfectly legal."

The very purpose of the totality of "European Organizations" exist to at least give a heads up before "you go all in here."
Now it's too late..."we're all...all in."

I mean who reads newspapers anymore?
People want to have at least an IDEA of what's going on.
We all use the internet now...except for "Sovereign Man" apparently
Certainly markets maintain an "informational advantage"...and indeed they appear to be leveraging it at the moment!

Why does Europe go to war?
Well...it's not for lack of the USA trying to prevent that from happening that's fer sure.

Is this a "staged affair"?
Good question...to which I have no answer.

I would say this...never play chess with a Mongol. "He just break board."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:35 | 4513878 Skateboarder
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I think this is probably the first time I gave a thumbs up to something a politician said. If you don't read into the theater or words like 'partners,' that quote kind of speaks the truth.

It's a pretty serious thing to say, don't you think? Inviting war. Meanwhile the sacrificial ship (read sheep) has passed through the Bosphorus.

If it looks like a play, it's a play.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:41 | 4514145 LawsofPhysics
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I am confused, you have defended Bush on numerous occasions, now you compare him to Putin.

Cognitive dissonance much or simply more revisonist history to come...

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:27 | 4515917 matrix2012
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Take this as the UP arrows for Skateboarder's quote selection... for a president of a country as large as Russia to say it so explicitly as above really means something... it's unlike the words of Nobelized voodoo economist Crookman

+10

 

Thanks Simon for the nice article and Tyler for presenting it here!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:01 | 4513728 Cacete de Ouro
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What I don't understand is why US citizens don't have a revolution. They don't even protest on the streets to any extent. It's a serious question. Is there something in the water supply or food supply or some subtle imagery on US TV channels that makes the majority of US citizens so docile?

Not trying to be offensive, just a bit confused.

Where is the spirit of the Founding Fathers?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:04 | 4513740 SilverIsKing
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You must not have seen American Idol.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:08 | 4513744 Meat Hammer
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No, it's because there still IS a water supply and a food supply.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:44 | 4514168 LawsofPhysics
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^^^this, and I junked him for missing the obvious.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:06 | 4513749 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  It's a serious question.

Serious answer...   Americans live very well.   They don't care.   Many actually like having a government that kicks the world's ass.    This isn't even an issue for most Americans.   All they care about is sports and having more bling than the neighbor.   Sometime success doesn't result in good things.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:08 | 4513768 Skateboarder
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Ill definition of success brings ill fortune.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:15 | 4513791 Spastica Rex
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An American walks down a nice street. He stops at a beautiful house with a beautiful lawn. There's two brand new cars in the driveway and a very expensive antique car can be seen in one bay of the three car garage. The American thinks to himself, "Someday, I'm gonna be that guy."

An Irishman walks down the same street and stops in front of the same house. His hands bunch into fists as he thinks to himself, "Someday, I'm gonna get that guy."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:35 | 4513880 Cacete de Ouro
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Danny Dalton: Some trust fund prosecutor, got off-message at Brown, thinks he's gonna run this up the flagpole, make a name for himself, maybe get elected some two-bit, no-name congressman from nowhere, with the result that Russia or China can suddenly start having, at our expense, all the advantages we enjoy here. No, I tell you. No, sir. "But, Danny, these are sovereign nations." Sovereign nations! What is a sovereign nation, but a collective of greed run by one individual? "But, Danny, they're codified by the U.N. charter!" Legitimized gangsterism on a global basis that has no more validity than an agreement between the Crips and the Bloods! Corruption charges. Corruption? Corruption ain't nothing more than government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulation. That's Milton Friedman. He got a goddamn Nobel Prize. We have laws against it precisely so we can get away with it. Corruption is our protection. Corruption is what keeps us safe and warm. Corruption is why you and I are prancing around here instead of fighting each other for scraps of meat out in the streets. Corruption is why we win.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:38 | 4513888 Cacete de Ouro
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We use one quarter of the oil in
the world, Bennett. Your house is
light and warm and my house is
light and warm, but what if it was
that way half the week, or none of
the week. Hell, China's economy
ain't growing as fast as it could
because they can't get all the oil
they need. I'm damn proud of that
fact.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:46 | 4514175 LawsofPhysics
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The sad turth being that neither of those proclaimations comes to pass.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:07 | 4513755 Soul Glow
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Yeah - fluoride - not to mention fast food, TV all day everyday, binge drinking by half of the adults, everyone including children are wired on poorly grown coffee, our schools and work have everyone sitting for 9 straight hours cramping our bodies, and we think being an intellectual consists of playing sadoku.  

We're fucking stupid.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:17 | 4513801 negative rates
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We didn't force you to carry that school backpack.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:33 | 4513862 Soul Glow
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I didn't.  Went to school high all the time, no books, didn't study their bullshit.  Skipped school, got in trouble, learned the hard way.  

Now look at me, I'm a Fight Club member ;)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 06:43 | 4515881 Ar-Pharazôn
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lol

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:20 | 4513814 zionhead101
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Poorly Grown Coffee, surely your jesting? I want to know more,... if all that ails america is roasting, or irrigation, or fertilization, perhaps I can help fix ameriKKKa?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:48 | 4514194 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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I can explain that one. Once coffee's roasted, you should ideally brew/drink it within two weeks. After that, all of the oil released during the roasting will turn rancid (albeit at a slow pace). Green coffee hasn't released it's oils and can stay good for up to a year. Also, depending on the process of drying the coffee (usually wet process) it can grow various forms of fungus/mycotoxins.

I found tremendous benefit once we started roasting our own coffee. I really get a mental boost, but absolutely no jitters, staying up late, upset stomach, and I drink more than I used to before. Also, it's cheaper. I can get organic, single source beans around $5/lb.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:11 | 4513779 JohnG
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We would instantly be locked up forever, probably not in the US, if not just outright killed.  The sheeple are too comfortable right now.  I think it will take your "average" person actually being hungry.

I feel like it will happen eventually though.  The government will eventually go too far.  The gun ban in CT might do it.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:14 | 4513790 Soul Glow
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Them belly full but them hungry....

America - obese yet malnurished.

Only in America.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:18 | 4513805 Meat Hammer
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The judge spent most of his opinion determining whether such weapons were in common use across the country and so would, by inference, be subjected to illegal discrimination by Connecticut’s law.

It's going to be the the Founding Fathers meant muskets defense from the gun-grabbers.  

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/17775-appeal-filed-in...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:14 | 4513786 ebworthen
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They are high on the ether of the past while gobbling up the labor, savings, and sacrifices of previous generations in an orgy of consumerism, juvenile narcissism, and sensual, moral, and ethical depravity.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:20 | 4513797 Raynja
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People in America are more concerned with protecting themselves and their 401ks than with protecting their children and future.
It is very similar to the media circus surrounding the girl in nj suing her parents. Everyone wants to make her out to be an irresponsible monster. Somehow it is in no way the parents fault for how they raised their daughter. If she was valedictorian the parents would tell you what a wonderful job they did. If she gets high and dates some scum bag, then parents claim they had no control over the outcome, it was all societies fault.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:27 | 4513802 Battleaxe
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The slightest demonstrations get SQUASHED quick. The government has big firepower and the citizens only have small caliber weapons. The gov't can be totally unconstitutional and nobody can say anything about it. The cops these days look like storm troopers. They've got the courts stacked. Raise a ruckus and land in jail. They have cameras everywhere recording everything so anything you do can used against you retroactively. We just have to wait for the sytem to collapse upon itself because anybody that tries to help the process along is snuffed like a match. 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:30 | 4513861 El Vaquero
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The government has yet to face a truly pissed off citizenry.  There is a lot of anger under the surface.  My thoughts are that it's going to break loose suddenly, and it will be pandemonium.  Using all of those big weapons on the people will have the net effect of cutting their own supply lines, not to mention that some of those big weapons might be used for some fragging if the order were given to use them.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:40 | 4513898 zionhead101
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In the past 20 years I have personally seen friends from the Delta Force and Navy Seals murdered by the US Government.

If the best trained fighters in the USA can be killed without blow-back, then what does that say about the untrained moron with a gun?

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Long ago Smedly Butler led the Bonus boyz to WASH-DC post WWI to take back the Government, and the BONUS-BOYS got their asses whipped with tanks.

If real men in the last 100 years couldn't take back the US government then, there is no way in fucking hell the keyboard army, or the FSA can reclaim it now.

In the past 20 years since they started killing special forces guys that "SPOKE UP", they have carefully removed anybody that isn't loyal to "EMPIRE" (CIA/MOSSAD/AIPAC).

How you might ask? The all mighty "PENSION", gold plated MIL retirement pension, put in 20 years, and get $5k/month, medical, and COMEX for life, plus free camping at all gubmint parks. It's called PRAETORIAN, and its as good as gold, ... nobody is going to risk it now,...

So its FIAT to infinite and every cop, lawyer, and judge and soldier becomes a BILLIONAIRE, and all the little fucks become prostitutes.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:41 | 4513864 Lore
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That question is easy to answer, and I make no apology for the observation, which is easy to defend, and applies equally to practically every other 'western' nation:  It's because the majority are fat, lazy and stupid, easily controlled, manipulated and dominated by psychopathic control freaks. Morals and critical thinking skills are hobbled through controlled curriculum and controlled acculturation. Consistent with the thesis of "Bread and Circuses," the vast majority are fascinated by controlled entertainment (including sophisticated propaganda) and bad food (including toxins and mind-numbing additives) and completely ignorant of the trouble in the Ukraine. Actually, they have no idea of the situation anywhere outside their own collectivised neighborhood.  The suffering of people in any other part of the world is beyond their ability to understand, much less appreciate. Most cannot even point out their own state within the United States on a map. 

It would be interesting to know how many unique IPs (internet protocol addresses) from each country in the world access a site like ZH on a daily basis.  It would give us a sense of how much of the population in a given nation is awake.  In the case of western nations, even after all that has happened in recent years, my guess would be not more than a few tens of thousands...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:33 | 4513875 zionhead101
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The founding fathers were rich plantation owners, and in actuality, never did any fighting.

During the so called revolution, less than 2% of USA public took part, the rest were too busy working and trying to 'survive'.

The founders had complete contempt for the public, the founders of ameriKKKa, were the 0.001%.

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The thing is the USA is a failed penal colony, and the convicts were always 'kept down'. Today of course with 24/7 'crime' TV, and 'cop-shows' that show the cop's as invincible most people stay at home, watch tv, eat junk food and cower before the TV alter.

No way in fucking hell the USA public will revolt, well unless the food-stamp program goes null&void, but that will not happen so long as their is free FIAT to INFINITE.

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Anglo Saxon empire, ... call it what you want UK, long ago via Lord Balfour, setup Zionism to 'manage' the USA colony, today the USA exports FIAT, and enriches the Zionism. The colony exports 'mercenary's' to control&rob the world.

Few can oppose the 'Empire', anybody that opposes the 'Empire' is labelled a "COMMUNIST", been this way since the civil war era.

The only opposition to the "EMPIRE" today is CHINA/RUSSIA the so called 'commie countrys', ... funny cuz if you actually lived in CHINA you would know that it is pure Laissez-faire capitalism, and that the USA is NATIONAL-SOCIALISM, aka NAZISM.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:45 | 4513921 Lore
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How ironic that you will probably get downvoted. "A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house." - Mark 6:4

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:08 | 4513997 zionhead101
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I always get down-voted, and banned/deleted here, because I speak the TRUTH, and ZH despises the TRUTH.

They want parrots and the zio-msm wants to control both sides of the debate, ZH is what CHOMSKY calls 'manufacturing consent', a controlled opposition.

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There is NO such thing as DOWN voting on ZH, RED means TRUTH, and GREEN means "CIRCLE JERK"

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ZH only exists to collect google clicks, sadly google is optimized to down rank anybody that mentions zio-, so ZH has to minimize TRUTH, in order to maximize nickels.
Also ZH has to maximize commenters to make it appear to google there are many, ... most of the avatars you see here are just a few people, but I don't bother, and that's another reason that ZH hates me, cuz I will not let them turn me into a google bitch like them.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:48 | 4515327 Frostfan1
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I can't red or green arrow you.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:39 | 4513896 Balanced Integer
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Operation American Spring, May 16 2014.

Washington DC

http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:52 | 4514233 Freddie
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Well conservatives and libertarians hopes for primarying these RINOs will probably be foiled by vote theft with Rove and McCain's NWO RINOs.   McCain is fully involved with Syria, Ukraine and other endless illegal murder and govt changes.

All elections now in the USA are stolen unless it is something that is almost meaningless to the NWO.  In the Ukraine if they have an election and do not like the result - they stage a coup and murder people.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:56 | 4514253 Freddie
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http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/03/ukraine-sitrep-march-5-0938-es...

 

It looks like more and more cities or regions in the Ukraine want to break away and not be in the Western Ukraine/Kiev NWO and Nazi's Ukraine.   Seccession.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:15 | 4514026 yellowsub
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Flouride in the water supply helps in keeping the population dumb.  

Plus the recent events makes 'Muricans fear dying in unlikely scenarios that they would be willing to give up their freedoms willingly for protection that should already be there.  We only have the largest spy network in the world.

'Muricans are dumb even w/o the above or anything poisoning their minds.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:53 | 4514234 ThisIsBob
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Dude, they are legalizing soma across the land, so everybody is chillin'

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:42 | 4514155 LawsofPhysics
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Please this is fucking obvious, the majority of 'mericans are not starving.

I am going to junk you for that sheer stupidity.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:59 | 4514277 Freddie
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Well they eat but most of it is empty trash "food."  So they get fat on GMO, Corn Syrup, carbs and other crap but they are actually starving.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:55 | 4514560 Omen IV
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americans are basically morons with more cents in their pocket than sense in their head

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:08 | 4513732 NOTaREALmerican
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That did it.   If them Godless Commies are again Merica, then we've got to listen to O Rielly and prepare for war!

This is about the war on Christmas, that's what this is about.  And the lie-bral media is helping the Marxists fight this war.

You figure it out!!!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:19 | 4513810 negative rates
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You can start with a shovel to dig yer own grave, after that, you're on your own.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:03 | 4513736 One And Only
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Annnnnnd

League Of Nations

Bye UN, it was fun.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:03 | 4513738 Soul Glow
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The US is going to impose sanctions on Russia?  

What will we do?  Stop buying their oil?

And they are Treasury debt.  And they don't need our debt.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:20 | 4513817 negative rates
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You've herd of all bark and no bite, right, it's true in this case.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:03 | 4513739 Meat Hammer
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Because 'Murica

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:49 | 4513935 Carl Popper
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Fuck yeah

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:04 | 4513742 RaceToTheBottom
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Is it really just a coincidence that the G8 meeting is held at Sochi so close to the Special Olympics?  Were they already there competing?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:48 | 4513929 Balanced Integer
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If by "Special Olympics" you meant the Paralympics, you would be correct.

If you were trying to make a joke about people in wheelchairs, equating them to the mentally deficient, as a paraplegic myself I say Fuck You With A Combat Knife.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:58 | 4513962 RaceToTheBottom
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"If by "Special Olympics" you meant the Paralympics, you would be correct."

Yep, Dang, I did use the wrong name....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:59 | 4513972 Carl Popper
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Hold your horses.....um...wheelchairs, dude.

Most of us don't know special olympics from paralympics from a hole in the ground.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:06 | 4513751 jal
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" Putin added that Russia is still preparing for upcoming G8 meeting.

 

“If [the other countries] do not want to come, they don’t have to,” he told reporters .

 

 

 

This will be a very interesting meeting.

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:08 | 4513769 SharkBit
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China will come.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:06 | 4513752 mrblah
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And the U.S. papers are reporting that Kim kard-ass-ian walked outside today again. And tomorrow. And the next day.

And that maybe she'll have another child, who she will reward with a stupid name next year.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:07 | 4513762 SharkBit
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I have to agree with the Russian and Chinese views.  America is a bully and as corrupt as the lot of them.  Just knows how to spin a better marketing game.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:08 | 4513767 ebworthen
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"...– it’s OK for America to invade whatever country it likes, but not for Russia to defend its own interests."

That's about it.  Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Kosovo, Grenada, etc.

And how many young people have we lost guarding oil and poppy fields?

The U.S. has become a hypocritical joke un-moored from its foundations.

George Washington in his farewell address:

"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible."

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:10 | 4513774 Kirk2NCC1701
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It's good to know that China will continue to behave as they always have:  in their own interests, while paying Buddhist-like lip-service toward Diplomacy, Peace, etc.

That's why the "Acid Test" of China's "friendship" with Russia is what would happen if:

a. Russia starts selling its petro-energies for gold

b. Russia convenes a "G20 mins G8" summit in Sochi this June, and call for Honest Money.  I.e. Currency that is backed by a a nation's basket of REAL assets, that are universally valued and accepted... IOW:  Gold, Oil, and NatGas.  If a nation doesn't have much of one type of Precious Assets, they'd better plenty of the other kind(s). 

This plan would not "kill" the Dollar, but would end its global hegemony -- and with it, its ability to distort global economies and corrupt its politicians.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:54 | 4514246 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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And sadly, that's when the bankster class *knows* they have to bring out the nukes...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:15 | 4513788 Smegley Wanxalot
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And here is what the US MSM is saying:

 

NYT: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
CBS: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
WSJ: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
NBC: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
ABC: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
LAT: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
CNN: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass
FOX: Obama Kicks Putin's Ass

and so on and so on ...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:15 | 4513795 mrblah
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Which would really translate to;

"Putin rejects tension-easing blow-job from Obama"

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:18 | 4513804 Rakshas
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Good lord the level of hypocrisy is simply unbelievable it really is becoming harder and harder to justify why the US model should be allowed to continue to exist - I mean really what do we have left for redeeming qualities so far as the rest of humankind can see?  Please understand when i say america in this context I am referring to the psychopaths in positions of "power"  as i truly believe the average citizen like in most any country have good hearts and intentions - although after the past few decades of abuse at the hands of said psychopaths/sociopaths (GOP/DEMS) and their corporate and banker overlords coupled with the constant barrage of mind control the flock is getting further and further from salvation.  

Anyway don't mean to preach to the choir but it is refreshing to see straight talk from a world leader - we really need much much more of this from all of them.  Jumpin' Jesus will it ever end......

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:19 | 4513811 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Mutual weapon damage (MAD) as well as financial damage (FAD...I made that one up) is serious and both sides have to work hard at this or it will cost the lives of perhaps billions.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:46 | 4513841 zionhead101
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Chinese are essentially making the West out to be the belligerents, the Russians to be defending their interests, and the Chinese as the strong diplomats who are pushing for peace.

*

The nerve of the Chinese, we the CIA kill virtually all the Taleban in Afghan, and survivors head to China on the CIA payroll, where their fed, clothed and employed, and then Go to Kunming to help elderly Chinese tourists return to Bejing on the train, and this is the thanks the CIA/MOSSAD gets?

Why doesn't our CIA/MOSSAD agents in CHINA/RUSSIA fix the MSM there like they have in the USA?

This all sounds like an information management problem, IMHO.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:28 | 4513849 alien-IQ
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WOW. An RT anchor just resigned on the air stating that she can no longer continue to spread propaganda and whitewash war crimes for Putin.

The MSM is gonna have a field day with that one.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:45 | 4513919 mrblah
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Every whore has her price. Just ask Clintons wife.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:16 | 4514031 Rakshas
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Every whore has her price. Just ask Hitlery's bitch Bill.

fixed it for ya.....

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:14 | 4514024 angel_of_joy
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I bet she is ready to "spread propaganda and whitewash war crimes" for Obama, though. And for a bigger pay, maybe...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:18 | 4514046 NuYawkFrankie
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Dime a dozen.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:21 | 4514129 Rakshas
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Actually .........

http://rt.com/shows/breaking-set-summary/ukraine-conflict-perspectives-u...

 and 

from yesterday 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/05/russia-today-abby-martin-cr...

 

Edit - Oh you meant that whore ....... sorry my bad

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:43 | 4513907 q99x2
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Maybe the Chinese will only go after black folk when they attack.

No pun intended Simon.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:17 | 4514042 angel_of_joy
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Not really. You should encourage morons to do your work. Tom Sawyer, painting his fence...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:11 | 4514011 angel_of_joy
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Those papers are just showing what a weak hand US got in this game.

The Europeans have folded already...

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:14 | 4514021 post turtle saver
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fuk yu, china

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:40 | 4515306 post turtle saver
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hahahahahahaha fuuuuuuck yooooooouuuuu chiiiiiinnnnaaaaa lmfao

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:42 | 4514098 NuYawkFrankie
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They hate us for our Obamacare plans....

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:58 | 4514273 TheFourthStooge-ing
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They pity us for our Obamacare plans.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:33 | 4514457 x-moose
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Well, here is what else Russian papers say about the matter: They post old Soviet propaganda clips made in the running up to the annexation of Western Ukraine in 1939, and the Finnish war of 1940.

http://www.novayagazeta.ru/comments/62549.html

Here is a couple of salient lines in my humble white verse translation. (All copyright belongs to the Fatherland):

Many lies have been spread these years

To confuse the Finnish folk

Open trustfully for us

Both parts of your wide gates

As the poetry contest continues http://www.novayagazeta.ru/columns/62546.html,  a verse no less fitting the occasion is cited (copyright belongs to Anatoliy Gunitskij – co founder of Aquarium, the rock band):

Friends, let us all die

What is the purpose of all these jerking moves

Better is the coffin rattle

And the black pool of death

 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:23 | 4514702 Apostate2
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Simon, your interpretation ('the Chinese are essentially making the West out to be the belligerents') overlooks much and says nothing:


'The crisis in Ukraine presents China with a dilemma and highlights the limitations of its restrictive foreign policy and the murky issues raised by its search for resources – in this case, food rather than minerals. The People’s Republic, which reacted to the change of administration in Ukraine with a conventional call for dialogue between the contending parties, holds an important role, given its permanent seat on the UN Security Council. After speaking to Foreign Minister Wang Yi today, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the two sides had "broadly coinciding points of view" on the situation.

Not to Beijing’s taste. The ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych obviously came as a shock to the Chinese leadership. To start with, it had discomforting echoes of the Arab Spring, which set off a major security clampdown in the Mainland. Street action to overthrow an authoritarian regime is not to China’s taste. Then there was the failure of the Yanukovych security forces to handle the protests on its own terms. Protests of the kind seen in Kyiv are a matter of constant concern to a Chinese regime that puts a premium on stability – and a particular worry after the weekend attack at Kunming railway station which left 29 people dead and which officials have attributed to fundamentalist terrorists from the western territory of Xinjiang.

Where does this leave non-intervention? But Russia’s actions now raise a more tricky question for China’s new National Security Council, headed by Communist Party General Secretary Xi Jinping. China cleaves to the principle that no nation should interfere in another’s internal affairs. If Beijing recognized the new government in Kyiv, the logical implication would be that it condemned Moscow’s intervention. But at the same time, that would mean it was siding with a government in the Ukrainian capital brought in by the kind of street demonstrations detested by Xi and his colleagues.

Aid and weapons. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying has trodden a cautious line, saying that Beijing wants to establish a strategic partnership with Ukraine and work with the country bilaterally on economic aid. The two countries have established significant links. Yanukovych got a pledge of US$8 billion in aid when he visited Beijing in December, on top of US$10 billion China had already invested in Ukraine. China has bought weapons from Ukraine, which supplied the Mainland’s only aircraft carrier. Most important, Chinese demand for food and Ukraine’s farming resources appeared an ideal fit for China, but problems have arisen that have nothing to do with politics – although it so happens that they are linked to Crimea (see below).

The food front. The Exim Bank in Beijing signed a 15-year loans-for-grain contract with Ukraine in 2012 as it sought to diversify its sources of food in response to rising domestic demand and limitations on its own agricultural supply. The first half of the Chinese loan was delivered one year ago; China expected to receive 4 million tonnes of grain last year, while the Ukrainian parliament was to provide state guarantees for the contract.

Land, a motorway and a bridge to Russia. That contract was followed last September by an agreement between the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corp (XPCC), also known as Bingtuan, and KSG Agro of Ukraine whereby the Chinese enterprise was to take over 3 million hectares of farm land in Ukraine – which is the equivalent of 9 per cent of that country’s total arable land. The 50-year arrangement was to start with 100,000 hectares in the eastern region of Dnipropetrovsk to be used to grow crops and raise pigs to meet the Mainland’s need for grain and vegetables and its huge appetite for pork. As well as introducing modern farming techniques, XPCC would help build a motorway in the Crimea and a bridge across the Strait of Kerch to connect the Crimea with the Taman Peninsula in Russia. The Ukrainian company involved, KSG Agro, said the land had not been sold outright and that only 3,000 hectares was to be “modernized” by the Chinese.

But disagreements multiply. The status of the deal after the change of government in Kiev is uncertain but another problem has arisen. China was last week reported to have started legal proceedings in London for US$3 billion compensation from Kiev for what it says is a breach of the 2012 agreement. Quoting a Ukrainian parliament official, the Russian ITAR-TASS news agency said the Chinese alleged that the State Food and Grain Corporation of Ukraine had used part of the ___ to finance crop supplies for other countries, including Ethiopia, Iran and Kenya. China had received grain worth just US$153 million, the report added. As well as denying that it had sold land to the Chinese, KSG said the agreement was only a letter of intent on the transfer of irrigation technology from China’s western territory of Xinjiang, where the quasi-military XPCC is the main economic actor.'

( 3 March 2014 Trusted Sources)

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:47 | 4514826 Itchy and Scratchy
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The world has been flushed down the socialist toilet! Cancerous visionaries.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:27 | 4515002 rosiescenario
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Well, it sure was a good thing we helped out those Afghani freedom fighters to defeat Russia a few years ago. That has paid us dividends ever since. I can only imagine how much trouble we might be in today if we had not done that.

 

Our state department sure got that one right....along with help from the CIA and NSA.

 

Yep, those ol 'afghani's sure paid us back with interest.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:30 | 4515015 rosiescenario
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You know, if I were Putin, I'd sure try and work in something about Snowden having to seek asylum in Russia every time Obama and he exchange pleasantries.....just sort of keep putting that fact out in front of the American public....it kind of makes you wonder who is the good guy and who, the bad.....maybe they're all bad?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 00:20 | 4515434 TheReplacement
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To the Putin cheerleaders:  Where are the stories about their brutality that forced Russia to act?  Where are the people they killed? 

To the US/West cheerleaders:  The NSA called.  It seems they have some pictures of you.  No further questions your honor.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 10:13 | 4516359 UserLong
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Now two powers that being pressed and provoked by the US are united. Let's see...

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