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The Russian Perspective: "There Will Be War In Ukraine"
With Ukrainians living in the Crimea region voting to join Russia, the West calling for sanctions (well some of the West), boots still on the ground, and markets apparently of the belief that all is well in the world once again, we thought the Russian perspective on the next steps was useful...
Via Sergei Markov of The Moscow Times,
The current crisis is not about Crimea. It is about the rights of Russian-speakers throughout Ukraine whom the Kremlin wants to protect from violence and discrimination. Russia does not want a military intervention in Crimea and does not want to take Crimea from Ukraine.
There is a political solution to this crisis.
First, create a coalition government in Kiev composed of all parties, including those from the east and south of the country. The current government is dominated by anti-Russian extremists from western Ukraine.
Second, Ukraine needs to draft a democratic constitution that has guarantees for Ukraine's Russian-speaking population that would grant official status to the Russian language and establish the principle of federalism.
Third, presidential and parliamentary elections must be held soon. Independent election observers must play an active role in ensuring that the elections are free and fair. There is a real danger that they will be manipulated by the neo-Nazi militants who de facto seized power in a coup.
If these democratic and peaceful solutions to the crisis in Ukraine are rejected by the opposition forces that have seized power in Kiev, I am afraid that Russia will have no other choice but to revert to military means. If the junta leaders want to avoid war, they need to adopt Moscow's peaceful and democratic proposals and adhere to them.
Those currently in power in Kiev are carrying out a political strategy that is not so much pro-European as it is anti-Russian, as evidenced by the surprisingly heavy-handed tactics the U.S. and European Union have employed in Ukraine. In the end, a minority executed a violent coup that removed the democratically elected and legitimate president of Ukraine.
The Kremlin believes that the current Ukrainian leadership will manipulate the elections planned for May 25 to install a single leader or coalition government functioning much as former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili did in Tbilisi. A "Ukrainian Saakashvili" will unleash an even more repressive campaign of intimidation against Russian-speakers, one that over several years would stoke anti-Russia hysteria among the general population.
After that, Kiev may evict Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol and purge Crimea of any Russian influence. Ukraine could easily become a radicalized, anti-Russian state, at which point Kiev will fabricate a pretext to justify taking subversive action against Moscow. This looks especially likely considering that ruling coalition members from the neo-fascist Svoboda and Right Sector parties have already made territorial claims against Russia. They could easily send their army of activists to Russia to join local separatists and foment rebellion in the North Caucasus and other unstable regions in Russia. In addition, Russia's opposition movement will surely want to use the successful experience and technology of the Euromaidan protests and, with the help and financial support of the West, try to carry out their own revolution in Moscow. The goal: to remove President Vladimir Putin from power and install a puppet leadership that will sell Russia's strategic interests out to the West in the same way former President Boris Yeltsin did in the 1990s.
The official census puts the Russian minority in Ukraine at 16 percent of the total population, although that number was falsified. The actual number is closer to 25 percent. Surveys indicate that 45 percent of the country's population speak Russian at home, 45 percent speak Ukrainian and 10 percent speak both languages. In the most recent Gallup survey, when asked in which language they would like to be polled, 83 percent of respondents chose Russian. Taking into account the rural population in western and central Ukraine, about 75 percent of the people, probably speak Russian. Of that 75 percent, only about 10 percent are those in Kiev and a few other major cities who supported the protests. This means that only 35 percent of the population are attempting to impose its will on the remaining 65 percent, using a violent coup to achieve their goals.
Putin made the right decision: He did not to wait for that attack and took preventative measures. Many in the West say the Kremlin's reactions were paranoiac, but Germany's Jews also thought the same of leaving the country in 1934. Most of them chose to believe they were safe and remained in Germany even after Hitler came to power. The infamous Kristallnacht took place five years later, one of the first early chapters in the "Final Solution." Similarly, just four years remain until Russia's presidential election in 2018, and there is a strong risk that subversive forces within and outside Russia will try to overthrow Putin, in part using their new foothold in Ukraine.
Will there be war in Ukraine? I am afraid so. After all, the extremists who seized power in Kiev want to see a bloodbath. Only fear for their own lives might stop them from inciting such a conflict. Russia is prepared to move its forces into southern and eastern Ukraine if repressive measures are used against the Russian-speaking population or if a military intervention occurs. Russia will not annex Crimea. It has enough territory already. At the same time, however, it will also not stand by passively while Russophobic and neo-Nazi gangs hold the people of Crimea, Kharkiv and Donetsk at their mercy.
Or out another way:
If the extremists who seized power in Kiev do not accept Russia's democratic proposals, Russia will likely be forced to revert to military means to solve the crisis in Ukraine.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
That's a conversation that was recorded where she talks about the situation in Ukraine.
If you're asking, "what's she like?", she is a neo-con diplomat that also worked for Bush.
and married to Kagan, a neoCON and founder of PNAC
SSSHHHHHH............
Stop connecting dots.
Wow, Victoria Nuland is part of the Neo-Con gang. I am not surprised, as Obama is one of the greatest liars in American history - and in this case I am calling out his party line of being a liberal.
Amazing how liberals - the same who chastized Bush for his wars - celebrate Obama's wars.
"Oh, but we have no boots on the ground!" Say the liberals. Right, because when we bomb hospitals and power plants in the name of freedom, as long as no US troops die, it was for a just cause.
There is no right or wrong, there is only effective.
Original family name: Nudelman, Origin: Russian Empire (at the time her ancestors emigrated from Ukraine)
Um. They are two sides to the same coin. All they do is flip it every now and then.
It's called a 'false dilemma' in psychology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
Yeah no shit. I said I wasn't surprised.
Ok I re-read your massage- and now I see what you were saying. My bad- reading and typing too fast.
Glow on brother.
Just can't help but wondering if this latest (piece from Moscow Times) is another chess piece on the board (it's just a game, you say...)
We have RT anchor quitting live yesterday...Put-in blinked...Boots on ground...Who-shot-who...etc...Fxxk EU...
Over two weeks, how many pieces we read here (and there)...
Did you see the shapes of Russia and Ukraine? Looks like a fire-spewing dragon ready to gobble up an over-fed chic, no?
http://guardianlv.com/2013/05/nasa-confirms-super-human-abilities-gained/
Eat and be eaten...Blackholes eating galaxies and x eating blackholes?
Chaos.
Ok, stop connecting the dots, you say.
From Wicked-Opedia:
One of Victoria's grandfathers was Meyer Nudelman from a family of Jewish immigrants who came to New York City from the Russian Empire.[2]
So, yes, another neo-con member of The Tribe That Controls Amerika.
Somewhere, at a secret location, a convention.....
Mr Big(stein): "yes, friends, we have now gained control of the vast wealth of the cattle-country, Amerika. We control the entertainment, the news media, the banks and the Cattle. We have mongrelized them with negroes, made whores of their women, and taken the testicles of their men with our feminist forces. Soon, it will be time for a Great Sacrifice to our Dark Lord, and we will Rule The World for our Great and Evil Master who will grant us Immortality by Genetic Engineering (evil laugh, audience cheers).
More on the Obama-Kagan connection:
Robert Kagan was a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century. More recently, his book The World America Made has been publicly endorsed by US President Barack Obama, and its theme was referenced in his 2012 State of the Union Address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Theme of Kagan's book? "Mr. Kagan's book (including the title) is a pastiche of assertions to convey his obvious belief that the US must dominate the world, militarily and economically. "
Victoria Nuland’s husband is Robert Kagan, Council on Foreign Relations member, and co-founder of the "Project for the New American Century" (PNAC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
Thanks for the info, I had heard about the transcripts and the "fuck the EU"-incident, but that was about it. Couldn't quite make out this lady. So she seems another fine contribution to "Team America". Would it be safe to say that the recruitment agency in that impressive white building you have in your country sucks as much as the one we have in Brussels?
They recruit corrupt people so that they have no problem doing corrupt things. Is it sort of like that?
Nope, we tend to specialise in ineptitude.
Ours suck much more because they have the reserve currency to play with.
I agreed with almost everything, but I junked you for using the politically correct term "this lady". That bitch is no "lady".
I'd have Up-arrowed you, if you had said "this woman".
Fair enough, hence my + 1 for your comment.
Where's the Biden 'atta boy'?
She's too busy playing with her dreidle on her ouija board.
like "stormtrooping" Crimea.
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Nice hyperbole there, champ. Any basis in reality?
Those Russian troops have been there since the 1990s, and you're just now noticing them? Discovering an "invasion" and ongoing "occupation" twenty years after the fact doesn't speak too highly of Ukrainian, European, or US intelligence.
I didn't miss the airlifting of troops and equipment nor combat armed troops outside of their bases.
Nor did I miss that Russia is spreading democracy too, but seems many here take it literally.
i think there will be no war
this is the conclusion i've made after the phone call leak about snipers - it is a clear sign EU wants to help moderates in the new Ukrainian government to get rid of those right wing radicals
Nice theory, but that means the EU would be at odds with the US who is the major puppet master of those right wing radicals. Somehow, I just don't think the EU will bite the hand that feeds them fiat. Nuland will just offer another FU EU if they tried.
regretfully you are right.
the worst thing for EU that could happen is that if Ukrain does not get enough help and those radicals start spreading inside the EU like fire paving the way for pro-fascist regimes all over the europe
EU banks would crash and burn in a span of maybe a few days without constant injection of federal reserve notes. The EU is the compliant "prison bitch" in this scenario.
Panafrican Funk...
That's some injection. Swapping FRn's for Euros. I'll print a trillion FRN's, you print today's equivalent of a trillion Euro's, swap them in our magic electonic swap machine and we'll pretend everything is A-OK. Federal deficits and trade deficits from here to eternity and I wonder who's the fool in the swap transaction.
And THAT, my friends, I'd why Russia AND China need to use asymmetric currency wars... To break that circle jerk, by...
Having the EU pay for Russian oil and has in GOLD. And then, when both start teetering, China dumps the US Debt, to turn the scare into an outright panic.
GOLD FOR OIL, GOLD FOR GAS, Bitchez!
that's propaganda, based on the Great Swap. which did happen, and was reversed. further, your version does not make a difference between "London based" and the rest
Logic, reason, strategy, all have been pushed to the background by the Ukrainian extremists who shot their way into power, and the dogs of war are nearly loosed. I doubt very much whether anyone can control what people on the ground are doing on all sides, unless the outside world can come together on a formula that they could agree to submit to. That's asking a lot of Nazis. And apparently it may be asking too much of the insane crowd around Obama too.
Once fully started, it will roll on until all the pent up energy is exhausted or until outside powers intervene to stop it. Very likely it has already crossed that threshold. If so, the US and Russia better make a deal before going in, because go in they must.
Right now, it's just a rumor of war....
I got this nagging hunch Barry bet a billion on the wrong horse.
@rain man
Are you talking about the NCAA brackets?
No, the Secretariat of State.
http://earloftaint.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/john-effin-assface.jpg?w=...
Not again?
plus the origional 5 billion
nuke you
long time...
NeoCons want and need war, a big one. It's useful cover for the market crash they've aleady planned, and is about to happen...
So, when do you think Putin will tell his boys its time to go short.
I just get this feeling that he is sitting in some dacha saying, "Hold my beer and watch this..."
This is turning into quite the clusterf@ck.
Going to do a last run on Sams club and buy some more rice and flour and fill my gas tank lol.
If you think that there will be panic at the grocery stores and gas stations, make sure you have a nice stack of silver so that when the IMF freezes bank accounts and the dollar losses 1/3 of its value in the following weeks, you can begin to pick up deals like cars that people can't afford to drive with gas prices at $10/g and whatnot. Imagine when the guy with all his cars can't afford to eat.
Food and ammo for short term purposes, silver for long term purchases.
seems like the IMF maybe soon back on track to get the 'reset' they want which is likely to destroy the USD
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/us-imf-reforms-idUSBREA251IN20...
(Reuters) - Russian officials are pushing for the International Monetary Fund to move ahead with planned reforms without the United States, which could mean the loss of the U.S. veto over major decisions at the global lender, sources said.
I know sugar will really screw up a gas tank. How do rice and flour do in there?
That's the same thing that ran through my head. Beat me too it.
Baghdad Bob is that you? You working for the Ruskies now?
One Bourbon... One Scotch... One Beer!
either way the individual
person is subject to the object
of the consensus, that is nearly
inescapable at this stage of global
occupation. now more than ever
man needs civilisation and rock and roll.
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Eddie And The Hot Rods - Life On The Line ( Full Album )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSryvR0sdcI
Oh man... Just about my vintage.
Haven't heard that one in years. If I only had to do it over again what I would have changed!
Thx Blindman
[KR571] Keiser Report: EU Membership Market
Posted on March 6, 2014 by Stacy Herbert
"... In the second half, Max interviews Dmitry Orlov of cluborlov.blogspot.com about his opinions on Ukraine and about the failed EU trade deal that led to the crisis and what the future holds for the economy." s.h.
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http://www.maxkeiser.com/2014/03/kr571-keiser-report-eu-membership-market/
The Ukrainian leaders love the Russians in the Crimea and east so much they can't bear to give them up. Even if it means great hardship or even death for their own people. I mean, is that loyalty or what?
But hey the Ukrainians have had it pretty easy. It's about time they did some suffering to save their Russians from from uh, ya know those other Russians.
They can concern themselves later about the tedious and pedestrian business of learning how to provide for themselves later, while picking up the pieces. Providing for themselves while receiving subsidies from Russia wasn't enough of a challenge anyway. It's more fun if you try it while fighting a war with Russia. But who knows maybe some selfless philanthropists will bankroll them while they're playing game of thrones.
This area of the world has seen major turmoil for mellennia. The huns, mongol hordes, the Church, muslim raiders, they have all run through the black sea like bandits.
And this will continue. That area of the world will likely not see stability for a long time.
"You've all seen the wizard of oz??" You've seen the man behind the curtain? ....... (exerpt from MR) Get to the man behind the curtain and the madness stops.......
I believe it was Voltaire that said "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" and extrapolating would make a certain strip of troublesome land in the middle east between Lebenon and Egypt the most likely candidate to play the man behind the curtain. Perhaps a friendly offer of a Couple of Tsar surprises in the event of a really stupid move on Russia would be a reasonable negotiating position - I have a sneaky suspicion the .0000000001% have time shares in the general area - what's a condo without it's very own sun........ just sayin'
Hey Sergei Markov of The Moscow Times,
Russia lost. Suck it up.
Now go fuck yourself.
Russia lost? Things are just heating up. Russia, which has bases in the Cremia, is about to put up a front and likely deploy SPecial Ops to take out the West led insurgency, sparking yesterday's Cold War into a hot one.
Russia lost. Suck it up.
We're all about to lose a piece here and there if the Western banks keep this shit up Sherlock.
Better understand the game that's being played to your detriment before you mouth off as you soon may be putting that lead based sun block on with a trowel.
Hey SW Developer, with 9 weeks & 3 days of ZH wisdom, I hope you got a Plan B when an EMP puts you and your SW out of business.
You can see "sour grapes" headlines in the MSM, all crowing that Russia is paying a high price for its operations in Crimea. Putin and Russia's ruling elite have won a great victory very cheaply. For them, there is almost no price that compares to what they have gained.
Compare the relatively shallow dips in the ruble or in the Russian stock market with the billions and billions the U.S. has spent to get kicked out of Iraq and Afghanistan and to have its embassy burned in Libya. If this were only a petty affair of balance sheets, Russia wins hands down--even disregarding that a small rise in the price of a barrel of crude (partly a result of this very crisis) would regenerate income to the Russian government.
On the other hand, the European Union and the United States stand clothed only in arrogance and hypocrisy. They stand for nothing worth the support of Americans or Ukrainians. People in the U.S. should in no manner allow our ruling elite to seduce us into identifying one second with their current discomposure.
Pertaining to the EU and US, I am afraid to say:
"And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil."
+1
One up for the Shakespeare quote
get your GED yet? Why aren't you at work or driving home. No job either? I would have thought some government would have hired such a geostrategic genius such as yourself to plan their foreign policy. I guess not, Just sit at home and work for nothing. LOL
The EU(SSR) scum look even more foolish following Zio-stooges Obam and John Kohn over the cliff.
Drudge has something showing McCain is the most hated Senator. Reid and the dual citizen Senators are just as bad but McCain is the ZATO point man for govt overthrows and the mass murder of innocent people.
There is a special place in hell waiting for McCain and hopefully his old man who sold out the USS Liberty along with LBJ.
+1 for recalling the USS Liberty. Never forget!
who the fuck downvotes that comment???? we've got some pro-Liberty-slaughter fans here?
You ignant toad. Do I believe that the most advanced, by leaps and bounds, military couldn't distinguish between a civilian AirBus and a MIG? YES, but the fog of war and human error occurs again and again. Just yesterday we killed some Afghanis in a friendly fire incident. Your type creams over cabals and conspiricies. Occum's Razor is much more relevant in mho.
Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes.
All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died.[1] This attack ranks ninth among the deadliest disasters in aviation history,
FromWikipedia
Why don't you worry about the thousands of dead and wounded and maimed Americans All for naught, in vain, in Iraq and Afghanistan. NO, not you or your blood lusting Turner Diary freaks. That's why you are so easily called out for the dangerously shallow and black hearted souls that are every bit as dangerous as the State.
Im still too distrought about those poor incubator babies
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I hear they're planning a special welcome barbeque for senator Johnny McCain, and his old man and LBJ will be the charcoal.
I hear they will start the BBQ with jet fuel to make Johhny "Wet Start" McCain feel right at home.
bama a zio stooge. he hates the Chosen as much as you
Opportunism and Highest Bidders run in McVain's blood: he ditched his wife after banging a rich, blonde heiress -- who wanted to use her money and his 'fame' to move up in DC's social and power circles.
In regards to this "response" from Russia and the movement of US ships, I am wondering if the a Ukrainian vessel is hit. Just a theory.
Who would of thought that the president of Russia would turn out to be more American than our TOTUS?
If things keep developing like they are it'll be Putin 2016.
so when your leaders fail you, you cry for foreign ones?
Wait; we have leaders? Since when?
I thought we had looters.
meh, semantics.
Everyone cried for a Kenyan and you see what that got us....
The extremists should be understood as
not just the rump parliament in Kiev,
but those who backed and assisted the coup.
the extremists who seized power in Kiev want to see a bloodbath.
The Kremlin believes that the current Ukrainian leadership will manipulate the elections planned for May 25 to install a single leader or coalition government functioning much as former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili did in Tbilisi. A "Ukrainian Saakashvili" will unleash an even more repressive campaign of intimidation against Russian-speakers, one that over several years would stoke anti-Russia hysteria among the general population.
Putin knows how Soros-Zato rig elections in teh USSA, Egypt and other places on a regular basis.
Stalin said "Its not who votes who counts, its who counts the votes." I am paraphrasing.
Diebold put it into action!
Btw has anyone mentioned the example of the former Czechoslovakia vs the example of the former Yugoslavia? Admittedly a tough choice.
The American Perspective: "There Will Be new highs on the DOW and S&P so who cares"
History tidbit..Who pray tell helped Catherine the Great secure her warmwater port?
"John Paul Jones remains the first genuine American Naval hero and a highly regarded battle commander. His seamanship, genius, and determination enabled him to defeat the Serapis during a monumental sea battle. It was then that Jones uttered the legendary and inspiring reply to the British surrender request, "I have not yet begun to fight!" His later service as an admiral in the Russian Navy brought success to Catherine the Great's empire in victory over the Turks in 1788. This enabled Russia to occupy all of Eurasia from the Baltic to the Black Sea."
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/John_Paul_Jones
Also interesting is how good he looked after he was dug up from under he streets of Paris in 1905:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=john+paul+jones&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=B96C333ABD121C3F3B64E6B65193E3C52AEDDEDB&selectedIndex=41
His playing on No Quarter is quite good as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXV_vn1IDI
Sadly - America has no heroes like the America JPJ anymore. Just drooling cowards watching TV.
America has traitors like the McCain klan who sold out the US Navy at every turn. See Admiral pappy and the USS Liberty as one example.
Right, Russian speakers are on the verge of a holocaust and to prevent that Putin had to intervene. Does he have even one dead Russian speaking Ukrainian to show evidence of this malevolent neo Nazi pogram? The only people I've see geting beaten up are Ukrainian nationalistsby pro Russian mobs in the East. Words do not make facts and this guy has nothing but words.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government...
That's to show a bit on the far right groups, read up on their involvement in the uprising. Look into who has helped install them into power and their own politic views on things. Who's side where those snipers on?
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http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/03/neo-fascist-ukrainian-insurgen...
I'm sure more will be surfacing.
{ Words do not make facts and this guy has nothing but words. }
You are talking about Obama. Tell us something we dont already know , Mr. 60 minutes.
That sunken ship is there for 2 months already... It is all propaganda..
For real? Can you back that up? Seriously that could be an important little tidbit there.
Media fear porn.
When will Putin get a crown?
Same day Obama does.
...And the 400,000 murdered by the ever more reasonable Russians in
Chechnyawas to protect those ethnic Russians as well?
CIA/KARZAI/US-MIL killed over 400,000 TALEBAN in the last 10 years, ... yet the CIA created the TALEBAN.
I can't believe KARZAI is still alive,... but he's personally protected by his own team of US Navy Seals.
Like Rumsfeld said "We make him, quicker than we can kill them"
It's all systematic worldwide CULLING before your eyes, been going on like a well oiled production machine since 1910.
Well we probably can agree that the US Gov'ts foreign entaglements have caused much harm within the world (there are good outcomes as well), and more importantly has so eroded my Constitution that there is little hope on which I can steel myself.
HEIL PUTIN!
Where have we seen this before?
RevRex (1 week 6 days) said:
The Hitler canard? Where haven't we seen it before? Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Syria, Serbia....
Hell, Syria and North Korea have cranked out multiple-generation Hitlers. The number of Hitlers in the world has hit an all-time high.
I guess it's Russia's turn to hit the Hitler lottery again. The last time they won was in the 1980s when Gorbachev was Hitler and Reagan was the peacenik Neville Chamberlain.
http://rare.us/story/reagans-greatest-achievement-is-hawks-greatest-fear/
"Mr President, we must not allow a Hitler gap!"
re HEIL PUTIN! Where have we seen this before?
'HEIL HILLARY'?
Hillary 2016 the world will run with blood for her term's she will make Catherine the Great look like snow-white.
That's exactly what the 'Anglo Saxon Empire" ( Quigley ) needs a woman-Hitler, ... the USA will eat this shit up.
Yellen running FIAT, and HILLARY running the WAR, .. its going be sold as the CENTURY of woman.
"Hope & CHANGE" to "Pray & Hide"
One reads a lot about the sorry state of the Russian military but my guess is that Russian planners will have taken that into account and will have alternative plans in place. I wouldn't be surprised to see a major flu outbreak in the Ukraine, for example. Lots of ways to deliver bioweapons and maintain plausible deniability.
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If such a thing happens, the US will be responsible. Putin, as an adult, knows that you don't shit where you eat.
Well is it offical people?
Is this motherfucker a nutball?
Zbig did a bang up job -Didn't he????
My bad...
Almost forgot to provide praise to all the motherfucker(s) in Congress as well that are doing the "Lucky Pierre always in the middle" chorus line along with President Remus giving their ringing endorsement to pour more fuel on the forest fire.
That pollock is a psychopath.
That pollock is a psychopath.
Silver lining is when President Remus is told to "fire the cannon" guess which Eastern European Capital that borders Belarus is going to get the permanent case of "sun burn" first?
Zbig is as dumb as his daughter is "pulchritudinously challenged"
Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's 'more-stupid-than-W-US-Govt-interloper-fool=puppet-dictator". Or is that dicktaster.
U.S. Satellites Detect Planes at Russian Nuclear Weapons Storage Facility
RS
You just won the prize for the most important news of the day -if this is indeed authentic and not propoganda from VOA.
Well done and thanks for the "package".
I am going to be one drunk bastard before this evening closes.
Forgot to ask you if in fact you are the Grim Reaper and this is your "handle"
"Forgot to ask you if in fact you are the Grim Reaper and this is your "handle""
Probably not but who knows?
And the winner is?... Let me put my Scythe down to open this damn "sealed" envelope.
That "report" from Hal Turner is BS.
Link?
Edit: I can't verify this on any reputable website. Hal Turner's website isn't considered reputable from what I have been reading. Sorry if this was a false alarm.
I'll do you one better, from that same beacon of truth, TurnerRadio:
http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/206-visually-confirmed-enormous-c...
What a bunch of maroons...
As I said previously.
We hope you're right. Given that there is always a familiar pattern that seems to always take place when "drills" for some reason end up going live.
Son of "Barbara Bush"...
Certainly hope you're right on that one.
Krugman has a boner right now!
and he's using it to break every window in his house.
CIRCA 2050:
If it weren't for ______________, you'd all be speaking Spanish.
This Russian perspective is a load of shit. The only thing Russia cares about, or anyone for that matter, are the pipelines:
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-one-economic-reason-russias-invasio...
You may now return to your regular scheduled programming.
re This Russian perspective is a load of shit.
I see elocution lessons in your future.
Well, I guess we one upped them or 3. We care about pipelines, ABM's, and the BIS/FED having control over their fiat. It appears that the Ruskies are out-numbered (except for all those nukes they have pointed at us). I wish that they were just pointed at DC so they could clean out the trash and do us a big favor.
I urge everyone to log onto the Reddit feed for up to the minute reports direct from Ukraine where you will receive the scoop as it happens before it hits the msm along with some stories that never do:
/r/UkrainianConflict Live Threadhttp://www.reddit.com/live/3rgnbke2rai6hen7ciytwcxadi/
This shit is getting serious!
I can't think of a "nation" more responsible for the death and misery of countless millions spanning hundreds of years than Tzarist and Col. Putin's Russia.
Remind me which of those people in Nürnberg were innocent...if Bandera and his gangs were wrongfully accused then some more revisions should be in order.
Fascinating that the post-WW 2 order should come to an end, of all places in Crimea.
Re "I can't think..."
That's pretty obvious...
Regardless, ever heard of the Bolsheviks?
Or is that a little 'too close to home'?
Hey, wasn't Col. Putin a People's Hero for his work w/ the KGB? Was the KGB a part of the Bolsheveks? Please correct me if my information is inaccurate.
Ignorant post.
How so Vlad? Cause I'm a revancist or counter revolutionary, capitalist, or I know...a fascist (Russia's version of the term "racist.").
My guess Crimea votes to become Russian territory and everybody else goes home.
Russia must fight. This time in the internet age fake drug using closet gay fuktard Obummer and sooky soft puppet men Cammeron and Francois Hollande and their sheeeple military Nato are exposed by any thinking person. I predict more false flags. The other ongoing issue. Trinket dazzeled sheeple who go oh ah to false flags fed by a sap main stream media. Wake up!!!
Putin's protection of the downtrodden before and after:
http://thenorthcaucasus.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/grozny-before-war-chechnya/
A modern version of the Battle of Stalingrad, except this is against Putin's own people...
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcsaoffblock&type=A001US0&p=photos of grozny destroyed
You know nothing about the subject.
Well I know that most are Muslims, for whom your type seem to love when discussing the various ways to promote the bloodlust against Jews, but otherwise have no problem murdering them for the welfare of the 'greater good' in Russia.
"The extremists in Kiev." A.) That's some of the smelliest horseshit dished out by any government of any stripe, and B.) even were it true, which it isn't, the "extreme" response to the now deposed (and possibly dead) Russian bootlicking piece of despotic filth named Yanukovych was about as righteous an overthrow as they come.
And, finally, if ever the U.S. and the West were in a position where they could engage in a winnable military conflict this is it. I wouldn't engage in one over the Crimea, but if gangster Vlad and his second rate military force attempts to move eastward I would, by proxy, beat that son of a bitch's and his military like vermin found in the vegetable garden.
Yeah, forget sanctions, or any other kind of response other than arming Ukrainians with some very nasty weaponry and providing them with superior air support.
Under no circumstances can the barbaric Russian pricks
be allowed to take back Ukraine.
Russia's military will go nowhere, but home if Ukraine is adequately supported. In all of history, Russia has never been capable at waging warfare except in defense of their homeland. Nothing has changed on that score. For the Russians, it's not that the best offense is a good defense, it's that defense, except against hapless opponents, is all they are capable of.
weird.
Op-Ed(uardo) has choosen side?
edwierdo1
Shill!
Edwardo wants a cookie...
Keep taking the pills my friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AW1XHUcAsQ
"extremists" - in the old days we called them 'nazis" and the term was a negative.
It still is negative.
Just like Bud Costello - Obama and the Bankers really fucked up this time.
So, basically BaTfAtH ?
Def bullish...
21.49 Russia has begun massive air defence drills 280 miles from the Ukraine border according to the Ria Novosti, the Russian state-run news agency. Col. Oleg Kochetkov spokesman for Russian's western military district says it is the "largest ever exercise" held by air defence units in the area.
Gotta bomb those neo-nazi gangs!
The Impaler is getting ready, weak ass EU should slam sanctions now, take the hit, f*ck the money printers. Vlad will make his move...
I'm sure the Lithuanians are pumped to get more F-15s from Uncle Sam.
Probably to support some cannibals somewhere!