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Ukraine Acting President Loses It Over "Crime Against Nation" Crimea Referendum

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Ukraine's Acting President Turchynov is not happy about what his 'fellow countrymen' in the east are doing:

  • *UKRAINE PARLIAMENT TO DISSOLVE CRIMEA LEGISLATURE: TURCHYNOV
  • *UKRAINE PRESIDENT SAYS ONLY NATIONAL CRIMEA VOTE IS LEGAL
  • *UKRAINE'S TURCHYNOV SAYS MARCH 16 REFERENDUM WOULD BE 'FARCE'
  • *TURCHYNOV CALLS MARCH 16 REFERENDUM 'CRIME AGAINST NATION'

So how will he enforce that decision? Perhaps this is the instigation that Putin has been waiting for? Bonds and precious metals are suddenly bid on this news.

It appears things are escalating once again...

  • *CRIMEA TATAR LEADER: MORE THAN 23,000 RUSSIAN TROOPS IN REGION
  • *CHUBAROV: ABOUT 10 UKRAINE ARMY GARRISONS SURROUNDED IN CRIMEA

This won't end well as Turchynov adds, Ukraine’s territorial integrity is sovereign and unassailable

 

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Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:13 | 4517264 pods
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That is the thing about words, they never seem to match boots on the ground and superior firepower.

pods

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:21 | 4517295 fooshorter
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I fear that the west would love to send dozens of innocent ukrianian troops to their death against superior russian forces, just to televise and demonize putin

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:23 | 4517311 quintago
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The russians and the ukrainians have introduced new military uniforms so they can tell eachother apart:

 

Russian: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fRcoWQF4yxA/UZKgE7VBRyI/AAAAAAAAKG4/dwHBQW4xQqs/s1600/rhino2.jpg

 

Ukrainian: http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2009/05/15/300gomorrah_090515031156570_wideweb__300x307.jpg

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:34 | 4517385 Stuart
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I don't think the Ukrainian parliament, whatever that is these days, really gets that they are not calling the shots in the Crimea anymore.  Someone should tell them.  

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:57 | 4517512 The Juggernaut
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But... but... isn't what the people of Crimea want?  I mean John Kerry carried on about people voting for what they want.   Isn't that what people in USA do??

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:02 | 4517547 Bastiat
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Lurch, this is Turch.  We have a problem.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:34 | 4517770 Occident Mortal
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"Non-violent democratic power grab is illegitimate" declares unelected prime minister of Ukraine just days after he seized power of Ukraine in a violent revolution.

Hypocrisy is off the charts.

Where's John Kerry to lecture people about invasions on trumped up charges... Right off the back of a decade long occupation searching for WMD in Iraq.

Unfuckingbelieveable.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:49 | 4517875 Independent
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+1000 up arrows

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:11 | 4518010 Crazed Weevil
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""Non-violent democratic power grab is illegitimate" declares unelected prime minister of Ukraine just days after he seized power of Ukraine in a violent revolution."

With an attitude like that it's no wonder the EU like him...he'll fit right in with the rest of them


Thu, 03/06/2014 - 17:24 | 4518615 cowdiddly
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xactly- if only a popular vote is legal as he is spouting, then WTF is he doing in charge. Last I heard Crimean parliment did vote on it. I think Turdchenkov wants the people of E Ukraine to go do his dirty work and fight and die for him.  Goldman wanna be Banker scum sounds like you need a plane ticket.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:08 | 4517591 TBT or not TBT
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"national self determination" was an Important Thing to proto fascist dem president Wilson back in WWI days, and will be again, under the proto-fascist jarret administration.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:47 | 4517867 Johnny Cocknballs
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It;s funny how you repeat Jarret's name over and over to the exclusion of Obama's other advisors.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:28 | 4518057 Tim_
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Presidential Aide Valerie Jarrett Discloses Her Jewish Roots


"The White House can add one more senior staffer to its list of advisers with Jewish roots, and it is an unlikely name. Valerie Jarrett, President Obama’s senior adviser and assistant for intergovernmental affairs and public engagement, disclosed her Jewish ancestry to a Jewish gathering on Monday."

"'Many, many years ago, my parents hosted a seder for a group of our Jewish friends, and it was here that my father first told me that my great-grandfather was Jewish. What a wonderful surprise for our friends, and for me! So Passover has always been a special holiday for me.'"

"She went on to talk about the seder held by Obama’s Jewish staffers while on the campaign trail in 2008 and how Obama, after being elected, lived up to his promise to hold a Passover seder every year at the White House."

"The Obama White House has lost several of its top Jewish staffers recently, with the departure of presidential chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, senior political counselor David Axelrod and chief economic adviser Lawrence Summers. It did gain, however, Jacob Lew, an Orthodox Jew, as director of the Office of Management and Budget."

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:45 | 4518197 Independent
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LOL she is perfect for being a dual-citizen and selling out the USA for the 1/16 in her that is Tribal, I am sure she can pick up her Israeli passport during her next visit there

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 00:30 | 4520122 TBT or not TBT
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The other advisors seem to come and go. Jarret is a constant, in everything, and has been behind this farce couple for a very long time.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:18 | 4517660 Dollarmedes
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Crimea wants to seceed, but Ukraine doesn't want them to.

The United States has some relevant history in that department. Maybe Obama/Kerry should bone up on their American history around 1860-1865 to see the likely outcome.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:32 | 4517753 debtor of last ...
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Putin should invade Crete and see what happens.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:43 | 4517838 Flakmeister
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He couldn't even if his life depended on it...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:13 | 4518025 Dollarmedes
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Putin had all the pretext he needed to invade Ukraine-proper (i.e. Kiev...or as Nuland says it, "Keev", the dumb box). He didn't invade. I assume that means he doesn't want to.

I think the only way he'll invade now is if he's forced to in order to save face. The Ukrainians seem to be pushing him that way.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:27 | 4518107 Flakmeister
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Because he loses, big time, and he know it...

The Economst will have at least 6 covers a year highlighting Ukranian Intifada....

He will be given a way out and he will jump....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:15 | 4518357 DogOfSinope
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No one reads the Economist anymore. Not even economists.
The most economical thing one can do is not subscribe to it.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:58 | 4518575 TungstenBars
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Now that's funny.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 01:06 | 4520166 TBT or not TBT
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They went statist about a decade ago. Very sad.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:11 | 4518012 Freddie
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The scum NWO - EU(SSR) and USSA send their Zato goons for a phnoy astroTurfing Coup.

The install zio oligarch scum in the govt.  Now people want to leave the corrupt shithole known as the zio-Ukraine.

Can we leave the zio-USSA?  Time to f**king seceed.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:03 | 4518299 ebear
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"The United States has some relevant history in that department. "

Not to mention Canada.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:26 | 4517715 SDShack
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The West Coup Plotters are upset with Crimea because they know its only the first domino to fall. After that, the West will be the one under the new siege.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:47 | 4517865 Independent
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So true Stuart, if they are counting on the Western Europeans to take time off from their upcoming Summer Vacations to die for a dual-citizen money making grab in Ukraine they are in for a big surprise.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:50 | 4517880 Johnny Cocknballs
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they are or at least were considering a law to ban dual citizenship.

Probably not Israeli-Ukraine dual citizenship, of course... given to whom they are dispensing governorships.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:01 | 4517541 cossack55
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Good one. LMFAO

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:24 | 4517316 furgheddubouddit
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*UKRAINE'S TURCHYNOV SAYS MARCH 16 REFERENDUM WOULD BE 'FARCE'

More farcical than a bunch of Western-backed, violent, armed extremists overthrowing the legitimate and democratically elected Ukrainian government?

I highly doubt it.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:08 | 4517581 angel_of_joy
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This guy is nothing but a sock puppet (no Ed the Sock though), and he knows it.

Besides, he has precisely 0 legitimacy, as nobody ever elected him to do squat.

Last time I checked, the Crimean Parliament was still a democratically elected body. Just saying...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:02 | 4517946 MS7
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+1 (up arrow not working for me for your comment)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:34 | 4517384 Renewable Life
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Freedom fighters are a fickle bunch, when it's YOUR Boyz burning barricades and singing and dancing all night long to slogans of freedom and self determination........... ITS GREAT, but when the other guy wants the same thing........it's treason!!!!

There just isn't any sanity left at this point, especially when idiots are going to continue to turn to 21st century Americans and Euro lovers, for guidance on what freedom, individualism, and self-determination are??

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:41 | 4517388 tony wilson
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you fool

you mad fool

superior russian forces.

do not ignore the power of the erdogan swarthy turk

the mighty pole

the massive royal austrailian sas

the canuck fighting machines of royal can udder

as paul wolf avitch and dick chinee says

with some navy seels and some english mercenaries a smattering of idf and mossad we can win this.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:43 | 4517427 Truther
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Well then.. Welcome to the hell hole.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:48 | 4517456 TBT or not TBT
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Obama respects the mighty pole, deeply.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:58 | 4517522 angel_of_joy
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Don't forget the romanians. Their AF still flies Mig-21s in NATO patrols over the Baltics...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:38 | 4517898 Independent
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At least they are paid for LOL, still  better than those third hand F16s Romania just bought via USA from Portugal for like close to 1 BILLION dollars of IMF servitude. So they get the IMF loan for 12 old F16s from the early 1980s and they are in the pockets of dual citizens who, well lets just say that Beny Steinmetz richest man in Israel owns that Rosia Montana Planned Gold Mine in Transylvania part of Romania, through the Canadia Gold Corp via Gabriel Resources.  What is at stake is Europe's largerst gold deposits in Romania (valued at 100 billion dollars, but getting the gold out involves destroying ancient Roman mine digs, a world heritage site, and literally razing pristine mountains and cultural landmarks to get to the gold), mining them would involve hundred of thousands of tons of cyanide which would sit in man made lakes wreaking havoc on the land and water table for hundreds and hundreds of years.  So far project is stalled due to environmental study and demonstrations, I am sure there will be pressure on a govt in debt to release approval regardless of what the public wants.  They can bring in the neo nazis from kiev to put the public in line.  Or how about shale fracking for gas in Romania where protests stopped Chevron from drilling a test well.  Once the govt is again under IMF thumb how soon before skulls are cracked to make way for the drilling and American profits.  So Romania you will get your water and environment contaminated by dual citizens and US oil companies.  Tandem action.

To see the effects of a cyanide spill, check out the link below, it was considered the worst ecological disaster in Europe after Chernobyl, and it involved a cyanide lake, due to gold mining in another region of Romania, breaking its dam and polluting large areas of the country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Baia_Mare_cyanide_spill

Oh and here is Beny Steinmetz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beny_Steinmetz

http://www.globalwitness.org/library/corruption-arrest-us-puts-beny-stei...

Cause Romania can tell you how well they did right after getting all giddy and happy about signing up for EU servitude and part of the price of admission was giving contracts to EU and US companies

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/romania-cancels-contract-with-be...

How about grain prices, Ukraine get ready to get ripped off on your grain production via shady American companies who act as middle men and drive up prices by parking inventory in neighboring countries or even off ships in the Black Sea (maybe that is why they badly want a port for Kiev)

http://www.allaboutfeed.net/Home/General/2009/8/Three-companies-dominate...

http://gain.fas.usda.gov/Recent%20GAIN%20Publications/Romania’s%20Bumper%20Crop%20Triggers%20Price-Fixing%20Allegations_Bucharest_Romania_9-4-2013.pdf

So Romania has the highest percentage of foreign farmland ownership in the EU and its still going up.  Ukraine you can expect the same as part of your costs of doing business with the EU and being in debt to them.  Also expect to have your 'elected' govt sell your state owned farmland for pennies on the dollar to people like Soros and other Nuland friendsies.

Here is Ukraine's running start

http://iamthewitness.com/Ukraine.html

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/155976/ukraines-wester...

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:25 | 4518095 Freddie
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The old MIG 21 is better than that piece of shit F-35.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:37 | 4517404 Renewable Life
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I think your numbers are a little low, if past history is prelude to Ukraine!!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:41 | 4517419 spellbound
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Don't even dare think that they haven't thought of that before you!!!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:52 | 4519242 atsoft888
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I do not think there will be any real war. As it was in Kiev, or just recently in Odessa, western tv teams will be invited to a staged performance, called war with Russians (remember the shooting footage couple of days ago).
Really worse case scenario will be a couple of snipers from Maidan.
But, it is very unlikely presently.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:41 | 4517364 Canadian Dirtlump
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What I found funny about the hysterical rant I heard from whatever Ukrainian stooge is in place at this hour, is that, it was in English - and fairly good English at that - with as I recall some western lingo "what's up with" or something like that.

 

Sum total there is that it was probably meant for western media consumption - to propagate this act of international treachery, wrapped in a psy op, coated with a bygone theoretical construct of Western exceptionalism and nobility.

 

I can say for certain, that the average western gum chewing retardate would get more out of his rant than would the average Ukrainian who is on the precipice of seeing their lives get turned to full retard thanks to the conspiritorial and often capricious machinations of a cabal of folks who fall somewhere between criminally insane and demonic.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:42 | 4517425 TBT or not TBT
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Ukrainian life is the detritus of so many decades of soviet central planning tyranny. It may be twenty years later, but the demographic, cultural, and economic wounds are very deep. The west didnt cause any, or much of that, but yeah it sucks that another people/language is disappearing fast out of bad luck and let's say poor adaptation to their environment.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:00 | 4517535 Anusocracy
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Certainly, but think of the detritus of so many decades of american central planning tyranny future Americans will have to endure.

America's trend line is stuck in reverse and .gov has the pedal to the metal. Russia's trend line was going the opposite direction until the psychopaths of the US forced Russia into a new Cold War.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:16 | 4517647 TBT or not TBT
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There is still a difference in degree vs soviet or nazi central planning, but it can go further in those directions as our .gov grows and claims more power, crisis by crisis, making rule of law a dead letter. The Chicago Way administration in DC has done far far worse than Watergate and still stands, while the press and the people do nothing. With 17T in nominal debt and all the entitlement systems set to implode, their answer will be tyrannical, whoever is in office. At this point. Obama ought to be considered a traitor for merely allowing Congress to run without a budget for that many years, while printing trillion dollar deficits. Just for that alone. But the government is now pusher, and most of us are addicts.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:24 | 4517698 TBT or not TBT
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BTW, Russia is a nuclear armed basket case on terminal social and economic decline to match their sub dismal demographics. We should be worried about their continued rapid decline, of which this Crimea kerfuffle and related securing of Gazprom's income is a symptom...man. (sips White Russian).

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:43 | 4517428 fooshorter
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You sir, nailed it.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:37 | 4517365 TBT or not TBT
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Ghandi did fine with words...against the wanking guilt ridden British Empire in both global and domestic retreat into what it now is...kinda shitty.

Russians respond to more muscular (dis)incentives. Europe should start frakking their shale for gas like it was basic to their immediate survival.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:45 | 4517853 Independent
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I think Putin studied Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly and carry a big stick.  This neo nazi scum is speaking loudly with a small stick between his legs.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:56 | 4517918 Freddie
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The NWO aka USSA and EU(SSR) take over the country with an AstroTurfing coup run by the NeoCons.   Installs a bunch of oligarch Zios.   Then half of the country wants to seceed and this criminal oligarchs are mad!   LOL!  F U Oligarchs!   F U NWO!  

Can we secced from Obama-Stan?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:58 | 4518267 Urban Redneck
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"Unassailable!" PM Vizzini of Ukraine.
Where does the CIA find these clowns?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:14 | 4517266 Tortfeasor
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This lack of open hostilities will not stand, man!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:17 | 4517652 TBT or not TBT
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Hey! There's a drink here!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:14 | 4517267 TrustWho
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First blood of Russian soldier is worth +30 S&P points.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:16 | 4517276 SteveNYC
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We all know, historically, what happens if first blood is drawn on the Russians. Not a good outcome for anybody involved, let's hope it does not go there.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:27 | 4517339 TrustWho
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You are a fool if you think 30,000 18 -32 year old young men all carrying lethal force in a partisan environment will NOT yield spilled blood on both sides. Maybe leaders have changed and will keep the heated emotions under control, but most likely they will act like Killary Clinton and use the situation to build power for themselves.

Actually, I think Putin is surprised no blood was spilled the 1st day. This has helped him show the world he is trying to control chaos versus willing to use force to get his way.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:37 | 4517797 ThirdWorldDude
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You, sir, are an idiot. I bet you watch a lot of news propaganda too.

In the first 2-3 days those soldiers that took control of the airports in Simferopol and Sevastopol had no magazines in their weapons which means they were expecting none or minor resistance. Even if they were armed there was nobody there to resist them. Here's why:

 - There's at least 11 000 Russian soldiers on Crimea at any given time, so Ukrainians are pretty used to Russian "occupation";

 - Ukrainian soldiers, as well as their superiors, are confused by the entire situation. Whom shall they pledge allegiance to, the Nazi in Kiev or the illegally ousted Commander in Exile? They are already in Ukraine and witnessed the bloody insurgence with other eyes than those of the cameras of Western propaganda presstitutes;

 - Confusion was even greater by the rumors of Ukraine's flagship switching sides and it became total as Naval Command resigned last week;

 - Last but not least, they saw and are aware of the people's reaction to the "occupation". From the Crimean Parliament's response to what's going on in Kiev and welcoming of Russian protection to ordinary people taking en masse 'selfies' with a Russian armed soldier. I bet the question they'd asked themselves is whom are they going to protect if they resist to Russian "occupation"?

There will be no spilled blood on any side unless the puppets of Zion send their war machine to Crimea. Just to remind you, entrance into the penninsula is forbidden, people are only allowed to get out of there if they want to. That checkpoint is, as I understand, at Crimea's bottleneck to the mainland. I bet that spot is pretty well secured too. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you Americans have become too comfortable with your blood-thirsty police goons/military/politicians tazing/droning/killing in cold blood innocent civilians. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:50 | 4517884 TrustWho
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3rd Dude,....Time will tell.

Tatars are in Crimea along with others who are afraid of Russian rule. I would bet blood will be spilled and I pray you are right. By the way, you can make a point without name-callling, so you kind of make my point. Name-calling in the Crimean environment leads to a shot fired in emotional anger.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:14 | 4518032 ThirdWorldDude
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Tatars are as usual trying to play both sides to their own benefit (Look over here USA, we're muslims and we're oppressed by Russia!). Unless they calm down I suspect they'll be once again given to choose between Mongolian steppes and Siberian tundra.

Regarding name calling, I've once recieved a very good advice by an old retired USSR colonel. He said "son, don't lose your temper at the slightest provocation, that's what your enemy expects you to do. Remember, it's never words that get one pregnant." On that note, I think situation in Crimea right now is much calmer than here on ZH...   ;)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:27 | 4517340 john39
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the way things are going, i don't think that the Russians are going to have to fire a shot...  team zog is doing just fine self destructing in plain view for all to see.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:05 | 4517555 bigkahuna
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There will be Russian blood spilled. If it takes an agent provocateur - there will be Russian blood spilled. The Russian side has not kicked this off yet because it wants to get the most of Ukraine for the least sacrifice. If the Ukrainians stand up for themselves, the Russians will engage them and then blame the Ukrainians for opening hostilities. Then the Russians will roll Ukraine up. The western Ukrainians will be forced to be refugees in Poland.

If the EU does anything, they should have done it months ago - they and the US knew what Russia was doing.

At this point if Ukraine does not immediately get on its collective knees and beg Putin for forgiveness - Russia is going to stomp their asses out of history while the whole world does nothing but moan like a bunch of hookers.

All the while Putin will be smug with the assertion that the Ukranians killed his troops and persecute his people.

Then he can cut the gas to the EU (or charge exorbitant prices), ditch his USD and UST - default on his US/EU banknotes tell everyone to get bent and do all his trade with the BRICs. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:19 | 4517667 Overfed
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Just don't let it get out of mind that it was the west who stirred up the pot and fomented a coup d' etat in Ukraine in the first place.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:03 | 4517951 bigkahuna
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I do not disagree. The west's role not only started the fire, it fuels it right now. Its like pandoras box - there is no good way out of this.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:46 | 4517861 basho
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no brains, no balls - what a f**king moron u r

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:16 | 4517275 Grande Tetons
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Fucking, March. Ceasar and Pets.Com spit on your grave. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:16 | 4517277 CrashisOptimistic
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Next amusing step.

Crimea Legislature Dissolves Ukraine Parliament.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:18 | 4517288 markar
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Someone with some common sense better tell this NWO stooge to STFU before he starts WW3

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:28 | 4517345 Winston Churchill
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This guy is as delusional as Obozo ,and Horsesass.

Just as well he doesn't have any nukes. Oh wait....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:36 | 4517399 earnyermoney
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Look closely, and you'll see Soro's fist up his arse moving his lips.

Any one see the editorial in the NY Times posing the question of Ukrain becoming Russians next Afghanistan? LOL. The West is going to give Ukraine a bailout, which will be handed to Putin via Gazprom. Can't have that, so it's time to steal the pipelines and place missle launchers on Ukranina soil to preserve the theft.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:19 | 4517291 denverdolomte
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Obama should just give Ukraine O-care and a minimum wage hike to settle their issues while he "sanctions" Russia. /sarc

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:53 | 4517480 TBT or not TBT
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With waivers and enforcement delays, ad hoc-like, to work the fat plug in as fast as the societal sphincter will permit, constant pressure with thrusts.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:23 | 4517309 vote_libertaria...
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All it takes is one drunk soldier to take a pot shot at the other side and KA-BOOM!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:25 | 4517317 denverdolomte
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Like the ones the UN got caught using already?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:35 | 4517392 beaglebog
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Like the BlackWater operatives who are alleged to be in Ukraine?

 

(OK, it's not Blackwater any more ... but, no-one's heard of Academi, yet)

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:39 | 4517412 earnyermoney
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I think Xe Academi makes for a better sounding brand. Where's Joseph Prince?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:24 | 4517314 DogOfSinope
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Interesting...

  • *UKRAINE PRESIDENT SAYS ONLY NATIONAL CRIMEA VOTE IS LEGAL

When Kosovo seceded from Serbia, local vote was enough.

We can's have double standards now, can we?

Or, can Serbia get Kosovo back?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:26 | 4517327 SDRII
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Serbia wants snap elections - fixed.

Serbia’s Vucic Goes From Milosevic Aide to EU Cheerleader

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-02/serbia-s-vucic-goes-from-milose...

 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:32 | 4517369 DogOfSinope
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Exactly.

Any nutcase will be supported until he sux it to EU burocrats.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:08 | 4517596 Bastiat
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Illegal coup spokesman says what about what's legal?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:33 | 4517759 TheFourthStooge-ing
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UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT DEMANDS CLEAN UNDERWEAR

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:30 | 4517355 Rip van Wrinkle
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And Scotland? Difference is if the English were given a vote Scotland would be independent...now.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:40 | 4517403 Democratic koolaid
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Scotland needs to protect the true British Identity that the English seem to have deemed expandable.

It's Kinda like a margaret thatcher board room meeting where they slash half the workforce, their Britishness, so they can reach their corperate goals.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:25 | 4517320 SDRII
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And the us is sending more fighters to Baltics and Poland

 

US to add six F-15 jet fighters to Nato Baltic patrols, Lithuania says

NATO ups Baltic air patrols amid regional concern

US fighter jets to fly to Poland for training drill - reports

U.S. Navy destroyer heads to Black Sea for pre-planned exercises.

 

Meanwhile,

Russia Reinforces Armenian Base With Overhauled MiG-29 Fighter Jets

 

And over in Lebanon, the proxy Hez war quietly ratchets higher

 Israel's army says it struck two Hezbollah fighters

 

Also Iran says it has MIRVs

Revolutionary Guard has multiple-warhead missiles

 

Good for +20 handles at least

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:37 | 4517400 SDRII
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Russians practicing last year...

Incredible photo shows Russian Tu-22 bomber, Su-27 and other fighter planes intercepted over the Baltic

http://theaviationist.com/2013/06/14/russia-mirages/

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:27 | 4517341 Flakmeister
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The most important metric to watch is the Gazprom share price...

That is foremost in Vlads calculations....

And no matter how you cut it, the Ukraine disintegrating into pieces is a loss for Vlad....

Just compare the map to 5 years ago to see why...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:33 | 4517370 Winston Churchill
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Haven't you got a dead horse to flog somewhere else Flak ?

Your position on this changes quicker than the datafudging  on AGW.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:41 | 4517422 DogOfSinope
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Oh, you and your heartless logic...

Now he's back on the way to the local NSA lair for new trolling "opinions".

And, it's cold outside.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:56 | 4517504 Flakmeister
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Can you even articulate my position? Let alone how it has allegedly changed?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:19 | 4517670 angel_of_joy
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Nobody cares about your position, which has more articulations than a space arm on the (now defunct) space shuttle.

FYI, red arrows on this forum are the perfect tool for recognizing a troll...

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:32 | 4517754 tony wilson
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poor old flakmeister.

his brain is gone musshy from all dat us marine corp cum juice he been slurping.

flak boy needs to stay away from dem dick cheney hazing parties

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:39 | 4517803 nonclaim
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FYI, red arrows on this forum are the perfect tool for recognizing a troll...

Silly. Down votes lost all meaning since it became a tool of ideologues. Gone are the days of plurality of ideas and rational discussion...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:38 | 4517407 Spastica Rex
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Why does he care about the West? Is a united Ukraine aligned with the EU preferable?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:54 | 4517488 Flakmeister
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Of course an EU leaning united Ukraine is not desirable to Putin. And the NATO/EU will "grudgingly" allow Putin to maintain a presence in the Crimea and hell, they might even bless some sham plebiscite on union of eastrn Ukr with Russia...

Loosing the West Ukr. is just another chapter in the slow retreat of Russian world influence...

For a chess player holding all the energy cards he seems to be losing to any impartial observer. Hell, how much power does Nigeria project despite being a large hydrocarbon exporter. Putin is well on his way...

BTW, I should dig out one of my first posts here on the crises where I expected pretty much this... 

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10 Years ago, if someone suggested that Putin would have to play some hamfisted politics to ensure his grip on the Sevastopol, the home of the Russian Black Sea fleet since 1783, they would be laughed at...

And here we are...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:31 | 4517749 TBT or not TBT
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Fully agreed for once, with Flakmeister, on Russian basket case-ness and the outcome of this kerffufle over basketcase "Ukraine". I'd add that Nigeria isn't scary/influential on the world stage also because it doesn't have lots of effective long range nuclear warhead delivery systems nor stockpiles of plutonium. Russia's implosion is a terrible threat, as was the disintegration of the USSR. Got to secure the nukes.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:48 | 4517871 Flakmeister
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Nukes are no joke but it should be very clear that they are only a deterrent...

And who needs to conquer Russia when they are more than willing to sell to the world what it wants via a captive pipeline system....

That is the very essence of RealPolitik....

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 01:32 | 4520202 TBT or not TBT
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Their nukes getting loose is THE threat of Russia's death. Some day one will get into a harbor in a container together with some radwaste to unleash hell, anonymously. Let's delay that day as long as we can.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:09 | 4517606 nonclaim
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That the Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine want to be part of Russia is understandable but... What the Ethnic Ukrainians living in Ukraine want?

Putin wanted to seduce Ukraine into the Eurasian idea before going for the other smaller ex-soviet republics where he could use force more freely. He thought he could deal with corrupt politicians only but forgot the population there has bad memories about Russia and its tactics.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:42 | 4517828 TBT or not TBT
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Putin had better care about the West. That's where the kleptocracy he works for stores its oil and gas income...which is paid for in Euros and Dollars and Yen. A lot of that income goes back west the instant it is received. A demographically doomed nation doesn't have a lot to invest in domestically even supposing the kleptocrats cared about that. Yeah they buy weapons and screw around in space and put on an expensive olympics in a chest beating Potemkin village play book replay, but the Russian nation is still super fucked, behind the facade. And thats very dangerous.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:44 | 4517835 TBT or not TBT
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Putin had better care about the West. That's where the kleptocracy he works for stores its oil and gas income...which is paid for in Euros and Dollars and Yen. A lot of that income goes back west the instant it is received.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:51 | 4517468 earnyermoney
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So I've read Pappy Bush coaxed Gorbachov to let the USSR crumble in exchange for a promise not to expand NATO to the East. I've also read that Slick Willy broke that promise along with Shrub Jr.  and now Barry with Ukraine.

In my opinion, all of this is to steal Russia resources in exchange for worthless paper fiat.

Putin's not going to back down as this is a national security issue to him. I'll be shocked if this does not go hot. I think Barry wants a war with Russia, way to put the Caucasian craker in his place.

 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:05 | 4517573 Flakmeister
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You are aware that most of Russian gas and oil already flows West and is paid for by "worthless" fiat...

Why fight for something you already have?

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Putin is presiding over an emerging shit show in his back yard that came in to being on his watch...

All the NATO/EU have to do is sit back and watch Vlad figure out how to deal with Humpty Dumpty. The EU/NATO can then easily pick up the pieces that Putin cannot deal with...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:34 | 4517771 TBT or not TBT
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Bingo. Also, Europe should start fracking the shit of their own shale and building LNG logistical infrastructure in a crash program.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:29 | 4517352 Carl Popper
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Fuck Ukraine.   A bunch of whiny pantywaists passing decrees and acting all hysterical. 

 

The majority in the Crimea want to join Russia or become independent. 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:56 | 4517505 TBT or not TBT
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It's "Ukraine" now, and yeah.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:29 | 4517354 q99x2
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Here we go again.

Is Greece going to default?

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:33 | 4517376 kito
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dude, this is great for my twtr stock. with any luck the whole country will go up in flames and everybody will be twittering about it. im so glad i started listening to krugman. he is right. disaster brings profits!!!!

 

twtr up 2.35% today. 

 

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:35 | 4517386 Smegley Wanxalot
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Wanna make sure I have this right.  An unelected "president" who came to office by having a squad of murderers shoot at both sides does the following:

  • DISSOLVEs CRIMEA's LEGISLATURE
  • SAYS ONLY NATIONAL CRIMEA VOTE IS LEGAL
  • SAYS MARCH 16 REFERENDUM WOULD BE 'FARCE'
  • CALLS MARCH 16 REFERENDUM 'CRIME AGAINST NATION'

Yeah ... fuck you you brussels humping asshole.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:58 | 4517517 TBT or not TBT
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Well it was time for an absurd gesture on someone's part.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:36 | 4517396 robertocarlos
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There's no such thing as a federal govt dissolving a regional legislature. Ukraine has gone crazy.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:36 | 4517397 Joe A
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Denial is a river in Ukraine.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:36 | 4517398 TruthHunter
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So an "illegitimate" government complains about an "illegal" referendum?

 

I'm no fan of Putin, but  he is a pragmatist who

probably saved Russia from becoming a failed state.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:03 | 4517554 TBT or not TBT
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Er, he saved it for the kelptocracy, not the 99.9%. Russia in the sense of a land full of Russians is in desperate shape and...if you listen to ANY demographer, in terminal decline. Awful longevity and health stats, and birthrates below Maoist one-child central planners' wildest fantasies, for decades of that. Russia is dead meat.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:44 | 4517431 IridiumRebel
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http://news.yahoo.com/nato-drone-strike-accidentally-kills-five-afghan-s...

In other news, US KEEPS DRONE STRIKING FOR FREEDOM

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:50 | 4517464 SpanishGoop
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Just when you think it could not get ant worse.

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:45 | 4517442 VonSalza
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Mit dem Angriff Steiners wird das alles in Ordnung kommen.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:47 | 4517449 jovius
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I am reminded of the film 'The Crow'.

 

'Well I see you've made your decision.  Let's see you enforce it'.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:58 | 4517477 Jorgen
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There was no national (Serbian) vote over Kosovo which is now recognized by 108 countries as an independent country.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:55 | 4517495 Quinvarius
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The Banker that was appointed PM, immediately emptied everyone's bank accounts, declared austerity and debt slavery, then started the process of auctioning off the pipelines to private interests, claims someone else is a traitor? 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 13:56 | 4517507 Sleepless Knight
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Thats everything a fraile punk-ass banker bitch would say. Now its time to back it up motherfucker. good luck.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:01 | 4517539 ezcearhoc
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oh crimea river!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:15 | 4517641 zippy_uk
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All you people taking Russian Roubles, sitting behind Russian tanks in Crimea are ALL FIRED

 

- Signed, powerless in Kiev

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 14:34 | 4517777 damicol
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As his wife cooks breakfast Putin walks into his kitchen takes his wife from behind and orders him to fetch him a cold beer.

Watching him wipe his cock on the table cloth after finishing  he pretends not to notice the gleam in his wifes eye.

Obummer is idly standing by waiting his turn

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:02 | 4517941 ptoemmes
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In this pissing contest among many who is driest? Kerry and Obama are dripping wet - and smell a bit too.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 15:14 | 4518031 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://www.rferl.org/content/was-yanukovychs-ouster-constitutional/25274...

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Dueling Constitutions

But a legal gap remains. According to the terms of an EU-brokered peace deal finalized on February 21, Yanukovych was due to sign a measure returning Ukraine to its 2004 constitution. (In 2010, Yanukovych restored the country's 1996 constitution, which hands greater power to the presidency.)

Yanukovych, however, failed to sign the measure. The omission appears to leave Kyiv in the kind of legal limbo that may prove fodder for future arguments against the current government transition.   

The 1996 and the 2004 constitutions are uniform when it comes to the reasons for removing a president, with Article 111 stating the parliament has the right to initiate a procedure of impeachment "if he commits treason or other crime."

However, it is not clear that the hasty February 22 vote upholds constitutional guidelines, which call for a review of the case by Ukraine's Constitutional Court and a three-fourths majority vote by the Verkhovna Rada -- i.e., 338 lawmakers.

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Forget about whether it was a protest or coup and counter move of Russia going into Crimea the government itself is most likely unconstitutional and illegal under international law.

Whether you like Yanukovych or not you can make the case he was chased out by a mob recognized as the legal government by the 'international' community aka the US/EU/NATO. The case can be made that the Ukrainian Constitution was violated and in turn international law because the US/EU/NATO recognize the current government. Therefore Russia by giving Yanukovych who is still technically the legal President refuge is acting as the guarantor of international law here and holding up their end of agreement of the memorandum of understanding.

I don't think acting President Turchynov should be mouthing off about legality at the moment.....

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:11 | 4518332 Urban Redneck
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The text of Article 111 is identical in both Constitutions. However, in both Constitutions, the lawful procedure for impeaching the President and removing him from office involves far more than a vote of Parliament.

Article 111

The President of Ukraine may be removed from office by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine by the procedure of impeachment, in the event that he or she commits state treason or other crime.
The issue of the removal of the President of Ukraine from office by the procedure of impeachment is initiated by the majority of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
To conduct the investigation, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine establishes a special temporary investigatory commission whose composition includes a special Prosecutor and special investigators.
The conclusions and proposals of the temporary investigatory commission are considered at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
For cause, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, by no less than two-thirds of its constitutional composition, adopts a decision on the accusation of the President of Ukraine.
The decision on the removal of the President of Ukraine from office by the procedure of impeachment is adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine by no less than three-quarters of its constitutional composition, after the review of the case by the Constitutional Court of Ukraine and the receipt of its opinion on the observance of the constitutional procedure of investigation and consideration of the case of impeachment, and the receipt of the opinion of the Supreme Court of Ukraine to the effect that the acts, of which the President of Ukraine is accused, contain elements of state treason or other crime.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Ukraine,_2004

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:11 | 4518333 BeerMe
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Ukraine government will be turning guns on citizens before this is over...Oh wait...they already did.

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 16:30 | 4518436 Runs-With_Toast
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Its common human history. Asshole govt loses territory to up right neighbour by the peoples choice. Goes both ways too. Asshole govt connives and lies to hold territory when the people of that territory have a right to break free. Just think asshole warmonger liar President Lincoln fabricating war to stop the South going its happy way. That truly is a case of the winners write history. This time in the internet age Ukraine, fake drug using closet gay fuktard Obummer and sooky soft puppet men Cammeron and Francois Hollande and their sheeeple military Nato are exposed by any thinking person. I predict more false flags. The other ongoing issue. Trinket dazzeled sheeple who go oh ah to false flags fed by a sap main stream media. Wake up!!!

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 19:17 | 4519126 ptolemy_newit
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Dear USUK

Let the your media report the real stoy that is in Keiv.  there is NO violence in the crimea

Can you send Victoria nuland to Kiev, We beileve she speaks the truth from America,

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