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China Sides With Russia On Sanctions; Ambassador Warns "Western Nations Would Be Hurting Themselves"

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Amid a Russian spokesperson "hoping" tensions do not escalate into a new cold war with the US, China has come out (perhaps unsurprisingly) on Russia's side strongly condemning any sanctions:

"China has consistently opposed the easy use of sanctions in international relations, or using sanctions as a threat.”

The comments from China's Foreign Ministry reflect the country's close ties with Russia and confirm what Russia's ambassador to Canada noted, we "can always turn to China if the West follows through on threats of tougher sanctions," adding that "Western countries would largely be hurting themselves if they impose tougher sanctions."



Some cryptic words this morning:



Furthermore, as The Globe and Mail reports, it is clear the Russians have a plan...

Russia’s ambassador to Canada says he was surprised no one bothered to speak with him about the crisis in Ukraine before he received a diplomatic dressing-down last Saturday, and added his country can always turn to China if the West follows through on threats of tougher sanctions.


In a wide-ranging interview with The Globe and Mail, Georgiy Mamedov insisted Russia wants to see the crisis in Ukraine resolved peacefully.


And he said Western countries would largely be hurting themselves if they impose tougher sanctions or make good on warnings that they could boot Russia out of the G8.


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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:24 | 4521703 VD
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hot messy war aint a cold war...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:29 | 4521729 Unprepared
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Cold with a chance of hellfire flurries.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:32 | 4521742 Hippocratic Oaf
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China should just dump treasury.

All of it.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:34 | 4521759 Occident Mortal
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Who will blink first?

Who are we kidding? We know our threats are empty.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:38 | 4521774 StacksOnStacks
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fiat bitchez

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:33 | 4522047 johnQpublic
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ok, lets pretend the chinese dump their treasurys and whatever other bits of our debt they have

what if there are NO takers?

we wont buy them

our allies wont buy them

their allies dont want them

then what?

no more cheap chinese shit obviously, but anything worse?


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:57 | 4522170 TerminalDebt
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you dont just dump 1T worth of debt, you exchange it for something. Like banknotes, or land, or maybe some american women.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:45 | 4522421 Chief KnocAHoma
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We could give them Oprah.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:55 | 4522478 Occident Mortal
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Anyone got the link for that real time cyber warfare analysis page?

Wonder how things have been looking these past few weeks?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:47 | 4522995 johnQpublic
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i know you exchange the treasuries, but seriously, what if the US gets its allies etal not to take them....its an actual question

could there be a situaton where we would take them from anyoen, just not china or the ones previously sold to china?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 18:00 | 4523034 Scarlett
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with no buyers, the bond bubble would collapse in a flash, and the usd would follow

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 19:08 | 4523273 new game
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the fed would backstop the torrent and shelve them on their balance sheet.  the world would be awash with newly formed currency.  they could then buy _ _ _ _.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:11 | 4522553 Headbanger
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Yes Oprah + Justin Bieber + Lindsay Lohan + Denis Rodman + CNN + CNBC + Nancy Pelosi + Boehner + Pierce Morgan !

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:37 | 4522690 tsuki
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We cannot give them Justin Bieber.  It is  against International Law.  He is a Canadian. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:46 | 4522988 mbutler101
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Everyone knows that, but we're willing to lease/rehypothecate our Bieber interests, but only up to 100 times ;)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 18:51 | 4523224 Carpenter1
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I'm Canadian, you got my say so. Take the little punk ass, no charge

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:46 | 4522424 macholatte
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if a large amount of UST is "dumped" it would cause the price to fall precipitously hurting the seller.  Say the price fell 30%. Most dealers get wet thinking about just a few points, 30% were be outright orgazmic.  Yellin could buy back her own paper for a 30% discount. Another $1T on top of the $20T outstanding is nothing, especially if it's just a buy back of old paper at a huge discount. It would all be over in a week or 2 at the most.


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:26 | 4522626 Soul Glow
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I'd like to be there when Ol' Yellen thinks she is getting a discount when she shells out another trillion dollars that will never be paid back on worthless debt.  

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 02:11 | 4522807 hobopants
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China sees the writing on the wall and doesn't want to rock the boat. They are exchanging US debt for gold at a pace that doesn't send prices sky rocketing. They know their best bet is to take advantage of the situation to buy hard assets like gold while the dollar still has value. Until they're devested the last thing they want is a dollar collapse. They have their own well being in mind, not some diabolical scheme to upset the system and rule the world. I think they have logically come to the conclusion that a collapse of the current paradigm will not be a controllable or predictable event and are hedging accordingly.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 22:35 | 4523893 Wahooo
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She would not be buying at a discount as her dollars would be negatively adjusted.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:03 | 4522206 ciscokid
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Then USA goes into DEFAULT!!!!!!!! No more reserve status for the $$$$$$

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:17 | 4522582 Lux Fiat
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The whole topic reminds me of Jim Rickards, who wrote about a similar scenario in Currency Wars.  Odd, not a peep from him of late that I am aware of on the major financial news channels (as best my surfing indicates).  That makes me very concerned that the situation behind the scenes may be worse than it appears on the surface.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:19 | 4522268 DogOfSinope
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That would mean that no treasuries are taken - from any seller.
In turn that would mean that US issued debt is worthless and, that dollar value asymptotically converges to zero. Which in turn would mean that US can't finance itself and dollar hyperinflation would start. It would mean that US will default on it's obligations and actually go bankrupt. All govt services would stop, no govt employee would get salary, no foreign seller would sell any goods for dollars (since US doesn't honor it's issued paper debt - which is paper money, too), but would request some intrinsic value in exchange. Etc.
Look up Weimar Republic hyperinflation on Google.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:25 | 4522902 Induced Coma
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So, this is a win, right?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:17 | 4522271 Dollarmedes
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"China sides with Russia on sanctions."

In other news: water is wet, says global media.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:33 | 4522369 Handful of Dust
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Baryy wouldn't touch China; the NAR won't let him. Cali RE would collapse if the Chinese stopped flooding in here with their Millions....not to mention the too-many-to-count that now spend bookoos $$$ to woo Chinese students, esp the ones who stop by the BMW dealership on their way from the airport even before they hit campus and pay that $60k cashola for tuition.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 05:53 | 4524500 americhinaman
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spot on insight, that very few realize!  there are 2 classes of such students...

1) is here on merit, and likely not all that wealthy but probably won a local chinese scholarship.  the USA school and area probably only nets the tuition payment and minimal poverty-level lifestyle expenditures, as these students live as cheap as they can.

2) comes to the USA and in addition to tuition spends 200k USD per year on food, car, rent, and other expenses.  california universities have rejected affirmative action exactly because of this (not just chinese students but also other rich interntional students).  when they come, their parents generally buy a luxury apartments or pay for luxury rentals price-no-object.  i'd guess just one big campus (say UCLA) could have 5000 wealthy chinese students, which on my back of envelope estimate would be 1 BILLION in local revenues!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 18:26 | 4522082 zaphod
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Due to the massive corruption that exists among the top 1% in these countries, the only reason most of the non-western world has done well over the past generation or two is that they have become integrated with the western world through trade and investment. 

Take that away, and their economies will stagnate and collapse as they have done before. ZH'ers rightfully see how the US's ruling class is corrupt, but it pales in comparison to Russia, China, etc. Which have even less rule of law. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 18:53 | 4523233 IronShield
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"...rule of law."

Sheep, Slave, Muppet..

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:38 | 4521776 kliguy38
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They're not empty......our skull n crossbone Yalies will rally our troops and lead them to slaughter from the CNN news room desks........YOU ARE OWNED

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:49 | 4521814 disabledvet
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"what is thy bidding my master....

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:51 | 4521823 kliguy38
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"yours is not to reason why .......yours is to do and DIE" !

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:04 | 4521886 HoofHearted
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Shit's about to get real for the US. Who holds a ton of T-bills (besides the Fed). Instead of real wars, we may see currency wars, and there is one definite loser there. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:19 | 4521964 johnQpublic
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what is it good for?

all Kinda shit

say it again

theres a broken window



MIC stocks rising

ah say it again


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:28 | 4522008 MagicHandPuppet
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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:32 | 4522036 Harbanger
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The Fed and establishment politicians can then blame the Chinese and Russians for the dollar collapse.  Sounds like a good plan.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:00 | 4522184 analyzer_66
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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:43 | 4522722 Dr. Destructo
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KMFDM forever sucks.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:22 | 4521979 11b40
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We blink first.....again.

Bluffing works fine until you get called.  Then, not so much.

Once we had WISE leadership.  I think that JFK was the last in that category, and there is a big difference betwee clever, smart, intelligent, educated, etc., and WISE.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:33 | 4522046 Oldballplayer
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Nikita wiped his ass with JFK in Vienna. The last crew that could dance with the Russians was Nixon. Not a big fan, but they could stand toe to toe.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:04 | 4525083 11b40
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Even with the mis-steps, Cuba did not turn out so well for the Soviets.  They blinked, if I recall correctly.

Nixon did a great job with the Chinese, didn't he, keeping Viet Nam a communist vassal in the soft underbelly of China, and removing the US from any bases near them on the South China Sea.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:57 | 4522492 Nehweh Gahnin
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It's hard to blink when you have your eyes closed.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:50 | 4523004 Kirk2NCC1701
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Regarding the Globe & Mail (Canada's #1 newspaper) article...

In spite of pretenses to the contrary (I get national pride), Canada has always been somebody's colony ("bitch"): First it was a bitch for the Brits, and now for the Americans and their Neocon/Globalist bosses.

And Harper has so much "more flexibility after the election" than even Obama, that he is happy to be the smegma*-licking lackey of his NWO/Neocon masters.

* Look it up.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 18:20 | 4523092 emersonreturn
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harper loves israel more than barry.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:51 | 4521822 No Euros please...
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I think that might be what they were hinting at. The Chinese are inscrutable and the US are about to get well and truly scruted.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:17 | 4521951 aVileRat
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China finally clued in, the occupation and annexation of Georgia and now Crimea can now be applied to Vietnam (where over 40% of the country is Chinese Han), Taiwan and the South-China isles. ie. this is their "cheat code" to imperial expansion.

Ironically, this whole, settlement & annexation business model was pioneered by the United States back with Mexico & Texas.

Funny how things work that way.

Also it's funny how nobody came to Mexico's aid back then because everyone was afraid of what the United States would do with their Cotton trade, which UK & France were heavily dependant on at the time.


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:52 | 4521831 SilverIsKing
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If the third vacation is cut short, they'll just follow it up immediately with the fourth vacation.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:58 | 4522174 viahj
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I get a little leary when in the midst of international crisis, the POTUS and VPOTUS both leave the mainland at the same time.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:38 | 4521745 Divided States ...
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Good that Tyler mentioned Canada indirectly in this topic, looks what is going on there.

First we have that conservative PM Stephen Harper licking VD's idol Netanyahu's nuts after his lil visit to Israel.

Then Canada scrapped that plan for the scheme where rich Chinese can come over. This along with whats going on to sudden immigration changes that Canada has immediately put into effect on Jan 1st this year to make it harder for immigrants to get a Perm Residence here.....lots of Russians, Eastern Europeans and Asians are immigrants to Canada.

This was happening all the while the CAD dropped from parody to now 0.90 USD level. Something is going on behind the scenes in Canada. Their housing market maybe on the verge of an utter collapse, especially the condo market which has so much supply.

It seems like Canada is making premptive moves ahead of time to severe ties with Russia and China and to assist the US and its master, Israel.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:38 | 4521780 Global Hunter
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Thanks brother!  Our PM and government has gone "all in" on Ukraine, our media too is full of Russia bashing and has been since before the Sochi games (calling the russians homophobic even debating boycotts on occassion).  We were flying the flag of Ukraine above our parliament on the same day I saw pictures of the Ukrainian PM Yats doing the seig heil salute along withe president of the rada (Oley Tonybok sp?)

I get frightened at times, they've gone all in on the supporting Nazi plan and coups in eastern european countries and I know shit must be real bad behind the scenes. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:46 | 4521794 Divided States ...
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Something big is happening behind the scenes...its not a coincidence that Canada has pledged allegiance to the West...while China and Russia have made it clear that they will be together on the same side when the war happens. Russia's move to take Crimea (and maybe more of the previous Soviet Union nations) is in preparation for strategic territorial rights and to get as much resources and protect the people who they can trust and who will die for their country.

Like many people say, this is a chess match that is playing in slow motion from the eyes point of view but so much shit is going on and coming together with every little headlines that comes out each day.


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:54 | 4521837 Arkadaba
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And yesterday this idiotic, wtf move:

Russian soldiers training in Canada given 24 hours to leave

The number of soldiers we are talking about? NINE! 


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:55 | 4521842 john39
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well that certainly showed 'em who is boss.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:59 | 4521865 Divided States ...
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This is not good....Canada is a topic of huge interest among all the countries of the world because its population is so diverse. It consists of Muslims, Chinese, Russians, Easter Europeans, Jews, Indians, Americans.....if something happens geopolitically around the globe, there will be so much unrest within Canada because these cultures will probably clash with one another.

Although Canadians are supposedly very easy going, most of these immigrants still have a lot of allegiance to their home country. Canada maybe a hot spot for future demonstrations and riots.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:04 | 4521887 LawsofPhysics
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This is the same country with 99% of it's population within 100 miles of the U.S. boarder right?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:12 | 4521898 Divided States ...
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You betcha!

Also, in regards to Canada only, if the future plan is to PREVENT more immigrants from entering the country because a WAR will eventually be planned between the West and China/Russia then why not just stop the immigration process NOW and save the hassle of deporting them back due to future sanctions AS WELL AS the potential of immigrants who already entered the country to revolt INSIDE the country.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:15 | 4521941 fonzannoon
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I remember driving up to Ontario on my own little Simon Black mission in 2010 to open a CAD bank account on Schiff's advice. The CAD was above the USD at the time. Maybe 1.05 I think and it was clearly heading towards 1.20 easily. The border guard asked me what the nature of my trip was and I just told her the truth. She said "we have been seeing a lot of people doing this lately. It would be better if your country just got their shit together". I can't tell if I am living in bizarro world now or if I was living in it then.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:31 | 4522032 11b40
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You were living in it then, just as you are living in it now.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:34 | 4522051 fonzannoon
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My balls are tired.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:05 | 4522209 Hulk
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You are bouncing them too much. I had the same problem until my late forties, when I finally went from bouncing to swinging...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 00:05 | 4524145 jerry_theking_lawler
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You should move to Japan....I hear there is alot of that over there.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 01:18 | 4524302 Alpo for Granny
Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:30 | 4522019 Herd Redirectio...
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Well, to be fair, the Chinese and Indian populations (not many RUssians) are mostly located in the cities, Vancouver, and Toronto.  So it wouldn't be nationwide unrest, but certainly highly disruptive (if US/EU go to war w/ China/Russia, even just Cold War).

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:16 | 4522573 general ambivalent
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There is also the fact that Canada has a generous supply of fresh water and other resources compared to much of the rest of the world. There is a feeling that Canada could be a big world power once we are (further?) in science fiction dystopia territory. It would make sense given the history of fake friendly socialist/peacekeeper government, so moves will be happening here certainly.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:00 | 4522188 muleskinner
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The word 'Canada' is a Native American word that translates to 'Big Village'.

The United States completed anschluss of Canada decades ago, so the big village is even bigger.

Seems as though you forgot the indigenous peoples of Canada, which is not out of the ordinary.  It's easy to forget.

Bought a pound of bacon today and bought a pound of bacon yesterday too.  Bacon is a great tasting food.  Too bad the crazy jews don't know that.

They're dumbasses too.  Nothing new under the sun.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:51 | 4522757 TheGardener
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"Too bad the crazy jews don't know that."

Get off ZH, this is not your bad taste party you thought
would fit your anger.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:15 | 4522855 Dugald
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Easter Europeans 

The rest of the year thay are????????

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:04 | 4521885 Toolshed
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That's unreal. Don't Canada's leaders know the shortest route for the ICBM's is over the North Pole?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:15 | 4521937 Cthonic
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Shortest route is from Minot, ND

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:17 | 4521949 Yenbot
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But they miss CANADA, toolshed. See?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:40 | 4522089 Dr. Richard Head
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There is a Nike missile base on the water front of Lake Erie in Cleveland that I drive by quite regularly.  Reminds me of the old days becoming new again. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:10 | 4522535 RafterManFMJ
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They named a missle after the Greek god of running shoes? This corporate branding shit is outta hand.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:56 | 4521846 disabledvet
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you gotta fall for the trap too.
If "Chicken Kiev" was the have to convince your opponents to "go for Crimea."

There is NOTHING in Crimea but dead bodies.
"this is Kiev Rus"...very emotional. problems with "attachment theory" here.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:57 | 4521853 Global Hunter
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A lot has changed very quickly the last 13 years here.  In 2000 the current government (Conservatives) were portrayed in the Canadian media as western, pro American, religious and social conservative, racist, homophobic biggots with the suggestion that they were fascists.  Today I haven't seen much disent against them, and they fully back the government on their stance over Ukraine and opposed to Russia. 

I have noticed the change and I think a lot of people are unsure of what is being told them, and many people think something is up.  But when I see the mainstream news or read the papers now I'm shocked at how one sided the coverage is and pro conservative government.  I don't believe they control the hearts and minds here yet though, so that gives me hope.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:08 | 4522231 general ambivalent
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Big shift after the scramble to prevent the Conservative majority, and Jack Layton's death, as well. All the corruption in the Conservative scandals, and now everyone's ready to vote in Trudeau Junior with his hip styles, and everyone forgets quickly how much corruption was going on with the Liberal Party.

But yeah, Canada went from presenting itself as the North American Scandi-Socialist Wonderland to America's Peace is War Little Brother pretty quickly.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:09 | 4522537 Herd Redirectio...
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Back in 2000 Canada was actually known for its role in International Peacekeeping!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:58 | 4521855 HungryPorkChop
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The currency war may be going into high gear behind the scenes.  Its probably time again for another bank holiday. They already hit Cyprus so who's next? 

The problem with China getting in the middle is if the U.S. put extra tarrifs or blocked their products from entering they would collapse faster than you could say "Fortune Cookie."

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:14 | 4521932 lasvegaspersona
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they do have a cushion of $3.5 trillion in foreign reserves and enough gold (estimates are 5 to 8,000 tons) just in case there is a change in the global reserve to gold.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4521870 Toolshed
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On the plus side, it looks like the UK may have learned their lesson from the Iraq absurdity. It's all Bush's fault. The black Bush that is. The one with the fat ass wife named Michelle.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:12 | 4521928 Winston Churchill
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A definite split between the  Axis of Evil partners.

Hope its not too late for the UK to come to its senses,probably need to bomb

Canary Wharf first though.


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 21:39 | 4523703 August
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>>>Canary Wharf first though.

Nah... nuke all of Airstrip One from orbit.  It IS the only way to be sure.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4521871 Dubaibanker
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Canada is expelling Russian soldiers from Canada and suspending military cooperation. Seems something is brewing....Pressure on Russia is rising to make a move this weekend...maybe an attack or perhaps retaliatory sanctions.....EU and US have made their moves on visas, trade reduction and military it appears it is Russia's move next....

Canada expels nine Russian soldiers in escalating actions over Crimea Russian defence official says order will damage relations between Canada and Russia
Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:44 | 4522105 Divided States ...
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Well NINE Russian soldiers can easily take out the FIFTY Canadian soldiers in the Canadian Army, easily. Hence, they need to be expelled ASAP

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 15:31 | 4522356 Chaos_Theory
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For Russia's counter, they close the NATO Northern Distribution Network into Afghanistan. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:28 | 4522637 Crash Overide
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Does this mean when I travel I can't fake being Canadian anymore with a t-shirt?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:58 | 4521861 oddjob
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Here's a local perspective.

YVR offers a total of 75 flights to China each week—more than any other North American airport—and boosting connections with the world's most populous country is a major plank for YVR, which recently added the Chinese language to its website.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:57 | 4521854 williambanzai7
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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:09 | 4521909 Levadiakos
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Did Obama draw a line that must not be crosssed?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:11 | 4521922 SilverIsKing
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It's reft, not left.

Otherwise, two thumbs up!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:13 | 4521931 williambanzai7
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Actually the L-R pronunciation problem is a Japanese thing. Otherwise we would have Bruce Ree

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:28 | 4522007 SilverIsKing
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Thanks for

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:34 | 4522054 Hippocratic Oaf
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They live in Ft. Ree, NJ

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 22:24 | 4523865 williambanzai7
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Ialways remembered Fort Ree being a Japanese stronghold.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:25 | 4522901 Dugald
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Bluce Ree????????


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:20 | 4521966 Yenbot
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The statement on that poster is, was, and always will be the best argument ever made for maintaining an overwhelmingly strong military.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:11 | 4522548 SunnyDD
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+ 10000+7

Login just to thumbs you up, few can see the tao, yet, like the Tai-chi

We are in as one and can not be without one and other.

Good luck my friend.



Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:17 | 4522866 TheGardener
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For some months now WB7, my dated browser will not show your great pics I always appreciated so much. Is there some new animation feature added? I do not plan to update my satellite/ancient cellular setup but readied myself for downgrading to CB radio text only versions at 1200 bps
without overhead if need be...

Hillbillies greetings

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:25 | 4522896 rotagen
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Stalemate for the ZIO-PUPPET west.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:24 | 4521704 TideFighter
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Thanks, Debt Brutha'

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:24 | 4521705 Thought Processor
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This is going to play out like a bad 'Survivor' episode.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:24 | 4521708 sgorem
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is this the proverbial sound of the second shoe dropping? hard to see that coming wasn't it? wtf.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:47 | 4521808 SWRichmond
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there are no surprises here

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:27 | 4521718 ebworthen
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Look like the U.S. and Europe are chomping at the bit to re-institute the Cold War and bring about the Biblical Sino-Russian alliance of Revelations.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:31 | 4521735 monad
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The cold war was staged. It was fake. The blood was real, but the contest between ruling factions was staged to legitimize oppressing the serfs worldwide and to keep them busy while this next phase was developed.

My advice is to reproduce as much as physically possible.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:36 | 4521763 NOTaREALmerican
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And it really did work.   Big-MIC enriched the Elysium Class, and the slow-motion eagles and flags hypnotized the dumbasses so well they didn't even notice the country transitioning to a crony-capitalist state.

Ya gotta hand it to them smart-n-savvy people, they sure know how to create bullshit for the dumbasses. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4521866 Tim_
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How else could an 18-year-old man named Mathias Rust land his Cessna 172 right outside of Red Square?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:32 | 4521746 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:   re-institute the Cold War

Poor Tom Clancy...   Dies right before all the cool war toys get used.  

Looks like we'll be rejoycing in having the centrally-planned Big-MIC crony-socialist scam giving us "Keynesian" prosperity again.    

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:39 | 4521784 czarangelus
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oh my god quit it with this dumb Jesus shit.

 Saladin is the anti-Christ! The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand! Crusaders have taken the Holy Land to pave the way for Jesus! No wait, the anti-Pope is the anti-Christ! No wait it's Hitler! No wait now it's Stalin!

Don't you fucking get it yet? NONE OF THAT SHIT IS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN. The Book of Revelations (ie: The Apocalypse of John) was one single letter in a wide array of apocalyptic Christian literature of the time. There's Apocalypses out the yin-yang; Apocalypse of Mary, Apocalypse of Peter, Apocalypse of your goddamn mom. And NONE of those books were about the future; that isn't the literary tradition they came from. They're books about personal salvation and what it FEELS LIKE to give your life over to God.

Cut this Nazi NWO dogma crap out! I'm sick of seeing it puked up all over Zero Hedge. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:56 | 4521845 Toolshed
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Relax........and get a sense of humor. Sheesh.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:59 | 4521864 disabledvet
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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 17:31 | 4522933 Dugald
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Relax........and get a sense of humor 

play safe get two........

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:59 | 4521863 Fractal Parasite
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That doesn't stop a satanic cult from picking up the book and attempting to realise it.

1984 was only a "novel". But every page of that book describes the control grid which is already being rolled out.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:13 | 4522565 john39
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Orwell didn't have dream up 1984...  he worked with the bolsheviks for awhile before he figured out what their real agenda was and rebelled.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:24 | 4521990 SmallerGovNow2
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yes, we are going to take your word for it oracle... s/

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:36 | 4522060 czarangelus
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You wouldn't have to if you had an education on Christian literature, theology, and sectarian differences from the years CE 33 to CE 500.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:34 | 4522055 ILLILLILLI
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The Abrahamic religions won't be happy until they have destroyed the entire world...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:50 | 4522137 czarangelus
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It's funny, you'd think ZHers would be uniquely qualified to understand the history of Christianity.

Even before Jesus died, various sectarian movements took up more or less of his teachings and included it in their own preexisting theologies. Different sects grew until they were basically unrecognizable to one another, and each "Christian" community had a totally different collection of literature and a totally different interpretation of its significance to their religious journey. They squabbled constantly.

Then Constantine the Damned came along and decided a global empire needed a unified religion, so he brought together a bunch of bishops from the sects CLOSEST TO ROME (physically and politically) and told them they were in charge of what it meant to be Christian. Exactly like the Fed today; those closest to the power structure politicized the outcome and used Roman authority to militarily stomp anyone who opposed this new, imperial Christianity. Some sects were so thoroughly persecuted that we've never found their literature; others, like the find at Nag Hammadi, are essentially unique - one copy and only one, hidden from the mauraders.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 00:17 | 4524172 Seek_Truth
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Your failure to discern the difference between a nominal "christian" and an actual Christian is quite common. Just like those who fail to discern the difference between a an actual conservative and a politician who lays claims to such.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:09 | 4524968 czarangelus
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No man - literally everything called "Christian" today is defined by a 3rd and 4th century political coup. The reason you have a Bible, the reason you think Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, the reason you're not at least passingly familiar with Pronoia or Barbelo is the result of Constantine's "unification" of the religion by force.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:13 | 4524977 czarangelus
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Valentinus almost became the fucking Pope, and a modern "Christian" wouldn't recognize hardly one word of his theological teachings.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 16:25 | 4522620 TruthHunter
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So Mystic Babylon ain't gonna fall? It seems to come down

everytime... Eventually

Isn't that sorta the premise of this sites' name-zerohedge? 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 01:26 | 4524311 Seek_Truth
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Yes, Babylon the Great, the Great Prostitute, whore, Harlot- her survival rate is now approaching zero.

Revelation 18 foretells the age we live in, when Babylon the Great, the Financial power (shadow government) that has ruled over this world will indeed be dealt a blow from which she will never recover.

Her destruction will come at the hands of the visible governments she has ridden to near-collapse: "The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire." (Rev 17:6)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 23:07 | 4523981 Wahooo
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And there's apocalypses of ZH.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 01:17 | 4524301 Seek_Truth
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Yeah, except that there is no Sino-Russian allaince spoken of in Revelations(sic).
Perhaps you heard a misinterpretation regarding Gog and Magog? (Rev 20:8)
That does not occur until after the millenial reign of Christ, (Rev 20:3;6;8) so we're nowhere near that time yet.
There is no textual or historical proof or other reason to connect Gog and Magog to Russia and China.
Nothing more than wishful thinking and sloppy theology, that is.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:27 | 4521719 Rising Sun
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Hey Barry - are you feeling it yet???


Barry, just walk out of the WH and quit.  There's a teacher's job in Chicago waiting for you.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:33 | 4521748 ReallySparky
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Totally out of his league.  He needs to seek unemployment compensation, then Walmart greeter.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4521873 NoDebt
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Guys, lay off Obama.  He's mentally ill.  And I don't mean the nice kind of mentally ill like when Reagan started to lose a few marbles to Alzheimers in his second term.  I mean the kind where Obama, in his own mind, thinks he's winning and doing great things and earning the respect and admiration of his people.  Meanwhile, his cabal, well aware of his condition, enables his fantasy so they can steal everything in the joint that isn't nailed down.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:33 | 4521752 Hippocratic Oaf
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Barry's feelin warm.

He's headed to The Keys


Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:33 | 4521753 Volkodav
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yeh...Saakasvilli got one of those

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:54 | 4521840 Toolshed
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I think you are overestimating his abilities. Convenience store clerk maybe - unless they require a drug test...........

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:28 | 4521721 Son of Captain Nemo
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President Remus has spoken!

But who the fuck in their right minds want to come the U.S. anyway?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:29 | 4521732 Winston Churchill
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There goes the Kalifornia RE market.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:35 | 4521761 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, to the moon, no way those rich chinese are going to repatriate anything now.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:48 | 4521810 Winston Churchill
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Would you invest in in RE in a country you could well end up  at war with ?

Bullish for RE anywhere but the US.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:03 | 4521828 LawsofPhysics
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There is still too much to plunder in the U.S. and the real Chinese and American power brokers are still operating on their 1971 agreement.

Ignore all the politacal crap.  Follow the private equity in both countries, these firms are moving their operations from Hong Kong, New York and D.C. to L.A., San Franciso, and Signapore/Phillipines. That's your West to East move.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:12 | 4521925 disabledvet
Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:29 | 4521726 Duc888
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Dump those Bonds....


Yellin will fire up the printer.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:29 | 4521727 Event Horizon
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Obama gets no R-S-P-E-C-T

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:32 | 4521743 Volkodav
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New cold war?    never ended in real, but pushed now to borderland

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:33 | 4521750 TrustWho
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And if Putin successfully inserts Russian sway in Middle East? 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:51 | 4521825 Toolshed
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Yeah, I hear he is not a big fan of the House of Saud. But then, who is?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:17 | 4521952 disabledvet
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again..."steak tartar."

payback for Syria has been an under-tone in these here parts.
"Was Putin crazy enough to go?" Yes.
"Would he be crazy enough to go again?"

I do think this should mean a debate in Congress...with the Speaker...who I am a big fan charge.

We never had that debate in Vietnam...these Russian kids never had their's either.
This is serious and its time to start hearing from the folks who cut the check here.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:33 | 4521754 Pooper Popper
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benda ova barry!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:34 | 4521757 besnook
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so now the great barack is handing over the world to the east in a beautifully wrapped faberge egg featuring an elaborate bow on top.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:34 | 4521758 LawsofPhysics
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And there it is. As many ZH follwers have called it. 

Hey America, regarding those unfunded liabilities...

Tick tock motherfuckers.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:50 | 4521818 Toolshed
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The dipshit US moroniticians have really opened up a can of worms this time. I wonder how long it will be now, if it hasn't transpired already, before Russia and China realize that, if they work together, they can absolutely crap all over the US/EU parade and come out smelling like roses. They are in a very good position right now to stomp all over the reserve status of the USD. Russia has the energy and China has the manufacturing. I would not be surprised if they were already working on increasing the rail and pipeline infrastructure between their two nations.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:36 | 4522063 ILLILLILLI
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Their thinking is that you can take a pin, make a hole and let a little air out of the balloon.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 14:39 | 4522080 SMG
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It was always a question of WHEN not IF the US Dollar would lose reserve status.  This would be a perfect time for the  Elite Oligarchs to get rid of dollar and not take the blame for it. 

And this event will eventually put the world on the path to a depopulating US vs Russia/China WWIII.  

Sad times to live in.

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