Picturing The Amazon.com Of Illegal Drugs

Tyler Durden's picture

When the drug-selling website Silk Road was shut down in October 2013, the event made international news. What didn’t make the news was how much the site’s purchasing clients were paying for the substances they were buying. Substance abuse comes with many costs. Emotional, health and career costs are just a few that we can name.

However, Silk Road added yet another cost on top of its substance users’ problems: spending costs. For example, the buying price of heroin on Silk Road was nearly 2x greater than heroin’s average street price.

What’s more, drug users of nearly every single state would have saved more money buying drugs on the street as opposed to buying them on Silk Road. Drug users from roughly 1/5 of the country overpaid by more than $100 and North Dakota was the only state to see a decrease in drug costs for users who bought drugs on Silk Road. Silk Road offered everything from mushrooms, to marijuana, to DMT and even heroine. But at what costs?


The Amazon of Illegal Drugs: The Silk Road vs. The Streets

Infographic by Clarity Way Rehab Center

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Seize Mars's picture

Sorry, OT but important:


"Ukraine signs $10 billion shale gas deal with Chevron"

Any fucking questions?

National Blessing's picture

Who cares about the Ukraine.  Let Russia take it all.   Bitches.

CH1's picture

Silk Road was taken down, and now... there are now 20+ DarkMarkets.

tmosley's picture

Weight those "averages" by volume and I bet a different story would appear.

Heroin junkies don't buy drugs online.  Cokeheads do.  And just look at what was cheaper on SilkRoad.

DblAjent's picture

This is worthless fucking journalism. Complaining about the price of dope online vs street? Want a bargain? Go down the the "dark market" projects and risk your life by way of just being there.

The fact that there are online markets to purchase products of any sort with nonfiat currency, which is placed into escrow until transaction complete, is a breakthough in and of itself IMO

StychoKiller's picture

Not only that, but Heroin and Coke are never 100% pure, they're usually stepped on multiple times.  So, if Silk Road was selling 100% pure Smack or Coke, then yes, you're gonna pay a lot more!

prains's picture

thanks for supplying absolutely nothing to the discussion National Festuring now please go change your diaper it smells

ShrNfr's picture

It is going to be a while before that comes on line. The short term matters in the short term as they say.

Bastiat's picture

Subtle these days, aren't they? 

Urban Redneck's picture

Are you really that naive?

1) The contract (which was signed with the "previous" kleptocrat) was for $350 million in exploration over 2-3 years. If commercially viable product can be extracted they might be willing to invest up to $10 billion after that.

2) Russia has already stated that in the event of US sanctions that expropriation of US investment in Russia is on the table. Now if the over 7 billion that Chevron is currently spending in Russia (http://www.chevron.com/countries/russia/) is the bargaining chip... How anxious do you think Chevron is to start drilling without the Kremlin's permission?

(BTW - the CPC pipeline supplies oil from Chevron's 50% stake in TCO in Kazakhstan (which is commencing 2nd stage after already producing over 2 billion barrels, so losing access to that pipeline is a much bigger issue than it might appear by just reading the country fact sheet).

Seize Mars's picture


I'm not sure I understand your post. Why am I naive? I dont think the points you made are contradictory to my post at all. Can you clarify?

Urban Redneck's picture

How (or why) is that contract actually important? Chevron isn't going to bite the hand that feeds it, and even if we had still had functioning equity markets, the $350 million commitment is a drop in the bucket on Chevron's financials. In the interim, the "government" has signed away exploration rights that aren't even going to provide jobs for the local hookers in the foreseeable future, unless they revoke the Chevron contract and start the process all over again.

Urban Redneck's picture

I may be jackass, but I freely and openly admit when I am wrong. Ironically, the Chevron contract is important for the exact reason I said it was unimportant -- BECAUSE IT IS GOING NOWHERE, since the "revolution". (and a 96% monopoly by Ukrnafta is maintained)

29 December 2011

Kiev – Ukrnafta PJSC (UX: UNAF, hereinafter “Ukrnafta” or “the Company”) has finalised the oil and gas upstream capital investment plan for 2012.

The plan aims to stabilise Ukrnafta's production in 2012 and lay the foundation for production growth in subsequent years through the application of modern oil field development technologies and operational practices implemented within a disciplined approach to capital allocation.

The 2012 investment plan emphasizes a more extensive use of modern technologies, such as horizontal drilling, hydraulic fracturing, 3D seismic data acquisition as well as measures aimed at optimisation of field management at the Company's existing asset base. The key building blocks of Ukrnafta's upstream capex plan for 2012 include:

• Drilling. In the next twelve months, Ukrnafta will start drilling a minimum of sixteen new oil wells, including nine horizontals – a total investment of at least UAH 425.5 million. The plan will also support the company's gas production via a number of new gas-condensate well projects and additional volumes of associated gas to be produced from new oil wells. Timely implementation of the drilling programme will depend on passing the existing land allotment procedures, which process has already started.

• Hydraulic fracturing. In 2012, Ukrnafta intends to frac more than 80 oil wells compared to 46 in 2011. The majority of the frac program will be carried out utilising the company's own fraccing fleet, with the remainder being larger fracs to be performed by international contractors. The program will also include fraccing some gas and gas condensate wells. The Company intends to invest in improving the operational ability of its current fraccing fleet to meet the increased work program.

• Field management optimisation. The Company recognises that there is considerable potential to improve production by optimising the existing management of its fields. The 2012 plan includes all measures necessary to improve the quality of the workover process and time taken to work wells over, optimise the use of artificial lift systems and water-flooding.

• Seismic data acquisition. The Company plans to significantly increase its investment in 3D seismic data acquisition with nine projects planned for 2012. Such surveys are crucial to better understand the geology of Ukrnafta's fields. The Company will be acquiring modern reservoir modelling software to ensure that it can fully utilise the 3D seismic data. Investments in Geology and Geophysics area will also include acquisition of modern hydrocarbon reservoirs modelling software.

• Equipment / other projects. The company intends to modernise a minimum of two existing Uralmash 3D heavy drilling rigs and acquire access to a modern mobile drilling rig that would be more suitable for the company’s shallower fields. The 2012 Upstream capital investment plan also provides for 52 construction projects necessary to support Ukrnafta's operations.

The Company is currently considering options of collaboration with technological and financial partners where necessary to implement some of the above projects in the most efficient way.

David Sturt, Head of Upstream at Ukrnafta, noted: "The quality of oil-producing assets is determined not only by their geological characteristics, but also by the level of technology used to operate them. To unlock the upside existing at Ukrnafta, we will apply production methods that are the most appropriate for the current life cycle stage of our assets. Over the last ten years, many other companies in the former Soviet Union region went through similar changes, and we just need to properly apply this experience."


whatthecurtains's picture

Chevron?   Hell when XOM makes a deal then wake me up.

Seize Mars's picture


Uh, are you aware of the fact that they are they same thing?

foofoojin's picture

Shale fields are in the far western region of Ukrian.  Russia wants the port and already has oil/gas.  The shale fields mean nothing to russia. EU wants the oil and cares not about the port. Port mean nothing to the EU. so allow the split and everyone happy? Nope.


If Ukraine has energy and port than they no longer need the EU or Russia.  so they fight for independence from both the  EU and Russia. 


What we see is slight of hand. both parties acting as if they fight each other realy while working together to keep Ukraine from gaining economic indipendence.

A Lunatic's picture

I want in on the class action law suit, lol.......FWIW you can get 'street value' drugs anywhere; privacy and anonymity is what costs extra........

fxrxexexdxoxmx's picture

I just want to find some heroin right now. Anyone got any? I got gold Bitchez....

Ignatius's picture

The banking system launders $300+ billion/yr in illicit drug profits.

The CIA, etc. sees that it goes where they want it to flow.

And we're talkng about retail pricing?

cynicalskeptic's picture

Funny how heroin supplies were tight when the Taliban were running Afghanistan and now afte a decade of US involvement there's an 'epidemic' of heroin use in the US (Europe too) ........

We can't 'afford' to bring back all this military equipment in Afghanistan so it's being left there......  I guess all those transports are too busy carrying other 'stuff' - following a pattern seen before in Vietnam, Central America and elsewhere...

the hypocrisy.... OF COURSE all the CIA et al must be kept secret - for 'naional security' reasons... otherwise all the Presidential Pardons needed might be an embarassment (Iran-CONTRA redux)

Ignatius's picture

Sibel Edmonds in her Gladio series of interviews with Corbett says the Afghan heroin production did not fall under the Talaban as commonly believed, though shipments apparently dried up in the months prior to 9/11.  Haven't heard a good explanation yet as to why.

Seize Mars's picture

Anyways, I am no dope expert, however it seems to me that commodities are all about deliverability; if the source is far away from the consumer then the price will be higher. (I am curious as to who in their right mind would sell dope on a website, but hey, whatever.)

Do "street prices" imply local sourcing? Does web trafficking imply far-away sourcing?

By the way, here is a picture of some US Marines guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan:


Do you think that the US government has any hand in drug trafficking? What would tip you off?

A Lunatic's picture

If you really want a pricy trip, try the Hopium........

krispkritter's picture

I got it backwards...I thought the Hopium was free? Oh, now I get it, unless you're a slave, er, taxpayer that is...

cynicalskeptic's picture

Do you think that the US government has any hand in drug trafficking? 


That depends on who exactly you think is 'the US Government'.........

BTW - raising such questions may lead to suicide (with 2 bullets in the head)

Gunfighter17's picture

Those Marines are not guarding that poppy field...they're on patrol.  Now the overall objective of why they are in Afghanistan or more specifically the objective of that particular patrol I can't tell you, but I can assure you they are not "guarding" that field.

Seize Mars's picture


Ok so they are "on patrol" in that poppy field. And when some unauthorized poppy harvester takes the poppies, what are they going to do with those AR-15's? Drop them and run?

By the way the AR-15 is for fags.

Actually, I am curious as to why you say "I can assure you" they are not guarding the field. Are you a US Marine who goes on patrol in poppy fields? Seriously, I am asking. Do you think a US Marine would never do anything "bad?"

EDIT: On second look, in the picture, AssholeUnconstitutionalOrderFollower#1 is obvious carrying some heat, not a faggy AR-15. I'm not sure about AUOF#2, but the rest are obviously homosexual, and not in a good way.

fourZero's picture

Looks like an M249 SAW.  The bigger question is, what is your point?


Do people actually still use the word "fag" in the pejorative?  I can honestly say I haven't heard anyone say that in a number of years.

Agstacker's picture

I use the word "fag" for people with loud mufflers.

Seize Mars's picture

I was just trying to be an ass.

SmackDaddy's picture

just listen a little closer as you walk away from a conversation..... fag...

maskone909's picture

What are you a gun snob? Ar gets the job done

Seize Mars's picture

All joking aside, I am actually not a fan of the AR system. I think it's delicate and prone to overheating. The direct impingement thing is a bad idea. Furthermore, the concept of the "kinetic energy" argument is weak. That is, the mass of the bullet is relatively small and the velocity is very high - this is supposed to tranfer a lot of kinetic energy into the target. However the round can be stopped by (in some cases) fucking drywall. I don't want to be in combat with a system like that.

I would prefer this:


That's what they give you when they actually want you to win a war.

Urban Redneck's picture

The MCWP equivalent of FM 3-21 & FM 7-92

(there is actually are several manuals which detail how to take a leak or shit)

The Marines are moving through the field, not guarding it.

Would you prefer the Marines to play the World's Policeman and drop whatever they are doing to track down the owner or operator of the field and throw them in Bagram prison with a mandatory minimum sentence for violating a US law in Afghanistan?

If so, there are probably a ton of neo-con apparatchiks who would love to employ you.

Seize Mars's picture

What the fuck are you talking about? Leaking and shitting? What!?

How did you get to me being the world's policeman, and being a neocon apparatchik? Let me make this clear. I will type slowly so you can understand me.

The US Government is the world's biggest dope dealer. They use Marines to do dope dirty work.

In my view, that's bad and wrong. Do away with prohibition and the crime stops. Are you starting to follow?

All that's necessary, is to get the US Marines to stop obeying unconstitutional orders. But that would take REAL courage, and they obviously don't have any.


Urban Redneck's picture

I hate to suggest this, but perhaps you should smoke a joint -- it might broaden your perspective.

NO ONE who has ever served in ANY ARMY, anywhere in the world, would look at that picture and think those soldiers are guarding that field. That's how intellectually bankrupt and practically inexperienced the clowns at Mother Jones are. If you want to know what "guarding a field" looks like refer to any the manuals mentioned in my previous post (The DoD's collection of Manuals puts Apple's collection of Apps to SHAME)

About a quarter century ago, when the Russians were bogged down in Afghanistan, the largest drug dealer (and key element of the Afghan opium/heroin supply chain management paradigm) lived in big a palatial compound right on the the main road running from Islamabad through Murree to the Afghan border. Both the Russians and Americans new this, and nobody did anything about it.

"Your can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose." The US has historically performed very poorly at even picking its friends. For over 13 years, US has averaged fewer than 200 casualties per year in Afghanistan, that would not be possible if they also picked a fight with the drug lords. There is an argument that could be made regarding a "moral obligation" to battle the drug dealers, which unfortunately opens the door to MOAR wars. There is also an argument that by increasing US casualties, continued domestic support for a presence in Afghanistan would decline, however, that one went out the window with the election of BHO.

The decisions regarding who to pick a fight with Afghanistan are not made at the platoon level. The colonels and generals who cut deals with the major local tribal chiefs/gangsters have to basically look the other way in regards to the tribal chiefs' principal revenue stream, if they want to keep their own casualties down, much less elicit any support against their declared enemy.

If you are looking for active, as opposed to incidental, support of the drug trade, I would look to where the US MIC has a smaller footprint and at least equally large interests to pursue (e.g. Venezuela and Mexico) because that's where the truly devilish bargains are made.

Regardless, those Marines aren't guarding that field, and interfering with what naturally happens in that field is both tactically stupid and MOAR INTERVENTIONIST than the US already is, so if those Marines are stuck in that field in Afghanistan, what exactly should they be doing that they aren't? "Unconstitutional orders" is a bit vague, since nothing happens in the military without generating a huge paper trail and IF there have been unconstitutional orders there is plenty of documentary evidence.

Seize Mars's picture

Ok let me get this straight.

You are unclear on whether or not the Marines in that picture, or anywhere else on foreign soil, are following unconstitutional orders? Seriously?

You actually think that it's "constitutional" for US Marines to be "on patrol" in Afghanistan right now? Please enlighten me on your official position here, before I launch into a thorough dissection of your above post as being insane.

Urban Redneck's picture

Public Law 107–40 is still on the books.

Seize Mars's picture

Ok, so as long as it's a law, it can't be unjust, immoral or unconstitutional. Right?

Are you clear on the fact that everything the Nazis did was "legal?"

Urban Redneck's picture

Legality and morality are two very different frameworks. You picked legality, not me. Moving the goal line 98 yards closer to you is not the same as scoring a touchdown.

And actually everything the Nazis did was not legal, contraventions of jus gentium/lex naturalis, jus cogens, and jus inter gentes can easily be found, it was out of expediency and a desire for MOAR globalism/imperialism that the process at Nuremburg was reduced to a procession of monkey trials.

Seize Mars's picture

Let's get this straight: the Constitution of the US says that wars are declared by congress. Has congress declared war since WWII? No.

So why are those morons walking around in a poppy field in Afghanistan?

Is it made OK by public law 107-40?

So the constitution is more of a guideline?

Seize Mars's picture

Actually, don't bother replying, I can't take it. Just fuck off.

Urban Redneck's picture

PL 107-40
Section 2
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

Read the War Powers Act, that term has a very specific meaning.

sleigher's picture

Those soldiers may be moving through that field, but we do protect them.  





"We provide them security"



Seize Mars's picture


Doesn't it just make you sick?

sleigher's picture

Absolutely.  So funny the war on drugs.  The Taliban probably did more for the war on drugs than the US ever has.  They actually cleaned up Afghanistan.  

On the other hand I actually believe in legalization for adults.  Personal freedom/responsibility and all that.  Besides, I hate paying for all those prisons for pot heads.

crunchyfrog's picture

You're not correcting for quality, The stuff on the streets of VT and NH does not come close to the medical grade stuff available on SR.