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Russia Threatens Retaliation To Sanctions, Announces Support For Crimean Referendum

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It appears Obama's latest "one hour" conversation with Putin has just made things downshift from bad to worse.

Moments ago Russia accused the European Union of taking an "extremely unconstructive position" by freezing talks on easing visa barriers that complicate travel between Russia and the EU over Ukraine.

"Russia will not accept the language of sanctions and threats" and will retaliate if sanctions are imposed, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement about agreements reached at an emergency EU summit on Thursday.

And assuring that the imminent Crimean referendum due in just over a week will rapidly deteriorate the current detente was overnight news that Russia's upper house of parliament will support Crimea in its bid to join the Russian Federation, the speaker of the upper house of parliament said Friday. "If the people of Crimea decide to join Russia in the referendum, we, as the upper house, will certainly support this decision," Valentina Matvienko said at a meeting with Vladimir Konstantinov, his counterpart in the Crimean parliament.

WSJ reports that a delegation from the Crimean peninsula were in Moscow to meet parliamentarians who warmly welcomed the guests and signaled their willingness to support the neighboring region.

Shortly thereafter, the western inspectors learned they are not exactly welcome in the Crimea later on Friday when a group of military and civilian personnel from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe will be making another attempt to enter the Crimean peninsula, after being stopped at two border checkpoints the day before, a spokesman for the organization said.

"The group is on their way from Kherson, where they spent the night, and is heading to a checkpoint in the area of a village called Chungar," Shiv Sharma said, adding that the group of about 40 people is scheduled to arrive around 1330 local time (1130 GMT).

But while the OSCE inspectors will hardly receive a warm welcome anywhere in the pro-Russian parts of the Ukraine, one thing is certain: while for the next week the world is stuck listening to more hollow rhetoric, once the Crimea formally splits from the Ukraine and joins Russia as per the will of the parliament and the people, that's when things get rough, as that will be the formal expansion of Russia into a region of the Ukraine which everyone in the west has called an unconstitutional process, while Russia itself calls the coup that overthrew Yanukovich just as unconstitutional.

So enjoy the downtime: in mid-March things get hot again. Or, if you live in the Ukraine, quite cold:

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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:02 | 4520573 Alpha Dog Food
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Nothing to worry about in Ukraine - Obama says he is to find out what the people think first before taking any action (3rd clip, about 30 seconds in)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80gPwcIV2vw

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:03 | 4520582 stant
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like i post yesterday on that call. they both said after hanging up"now for phase 3 of feindished plan"

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:06 | 4520590 negative rates
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Who ya gonna call? Sanctions busters!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:08 | 4520597 GetZeeGold
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Is Putin aware Obama has a Nobel Peace Prize?

 

I'm aware Putin has been nominated....but he doesn't have one yet.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:24 | 4520635 Occident Mortal
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It's coming,

 

One Friday night soon Putin will switch off the gas and everyone West of Kiev will capitulate instantly as the people of Europe discover they can't cook their dinner without Vladimir Putin's consent.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:27 | 4520662 Richard Chesler
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Never send the shoe shine boy to do a man's kob.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:36 | 4520689 new game
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one must ask why is this spirally in the wrong direction? fucking bankers and the control imposed by debt, then austerity, then moar of the same. blueprint around the world - west econwarfare, plain and simple. the west has met a country that has it's own plan. oligarch/mafia style banker vs weasle imf style control.  fucked or more fucked. there is a better way, but we all know that can 't happen-too much at stake(pipeline of course)...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:48 | 4520775 SWRichmond
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What really is shocking to me is the hubris on display from the West.  They put this revolution-thingy together and imagined themselves clever, being the world's God and all, doing whatever they wanted, no one would dare oppose them, etc etc.  And then it went south on them, almost immediately.

And then Putin, lacking world God status, had to think his way through his response, and has done so.  No one shot, no firefights; sinking the ship across the mouth of the "Donuzlav Lake" shows thought, and perhaps even finesse, rather than belief in one's own almightyness and irresistability.  Anyone glancing past the drone of the Western MSM can see that the Western MSM is relentlessly lying.  Not that Putin is any kind of truth teller, but he is managing to appear reasonable while Obama / Kerry are not.

Imperial overreach, I believe, always carries with it this hallmark.  As evidence of the truly remarkable hubris and stupidity of DC, it offers hope to the domestic liberty-lover.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:58 | 4520828 johnQpublic
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no soup for you/no gas, no cook

who rules bartertown?

who rules barter own?

me rule bartertown!!!!

EMBARGO!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:18 | 4520921 new game
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a'greed' SW - what truely saddens me is the brain washing of the majority with almost zero critical analysis of the relavent facts that can be reseached via PCR or here or where ever a critical thinking out of the box believe nothing person like you or I yearn for...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:33 | 4520979 Element
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Somehow I can't take this situation too seriously, mainly because it's not possible that the US/NATO is crazy enough to escalate this in the ways they rabbit-on about. It looks more to me that threats are to scare Putin into not doing anything else, for he did say that if the circumstances arose, then he would. So both sides seem to be threatening each other to go no further, but I think it's clear that Vlad may if incited, and if he does, that Washington et al., won't do anything much.

So I'd say Vlad has them deterred from trying further to destabilize Ukraine. Putin know the West is offering money, which means the west call the shots even on the Ukraine 'govt's' extreme-ism, else the deal is off, if the Ukraine 'govt' tries to create a conflict with Russia.

So it looks to me that Putin has the winning hand here, he maneuvered perfectly in his media-interview, to cover all those bases. It would take either catastrophic stupidity in Washington and Brussels, or a deliberate decision to attack Russia to alter the outcome.

Despite the above, the sad reality of Obama-Kerry and Barroso-Ashton means all bets are off, as they act like the extension of Kissinger's madman-theory-of-war, applied to international megaphone-diplomacy.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:53 | 4521032 i-dog
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"It would take either catastrophic stupidity in Washington and Brussels ..."

I think I've spotted the flaw in "our" plan!

 

PS. I also don't expect war, not even due to that flaw.

 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:17 | 4521157 new game
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lines being drawn of new warfare econ-banker-control-with cia opps false flags to distract - pawn pieces moved while the rook and bishops carry water to the media for distractin. ah, but so obvious to us. why can't we have a say? smile, and understand!

happy, happy as we go about another day...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:34 | 4521215 El Vaquero
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In a straight forward pissing match, Obama will back down.  It is that flaw that bothers me though.  It's the potential unexpected mistake due to stupidity that pushes things past the point of no return that I'm worried about. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:54 | 4521042 general ambivalent
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At this point, to me at least, it seems the propaganda is so thick that people in the media must themselves know what horseshit it is. And yet it's a Russian broadcaster that leaves the circus... All of these people just forgot about 'Fuck the EU'? All of them simply ignore that a top politician is stating that a third group of snipers is hitting both sides? All of them can't get the absurdity of recurring Godwin's Law while the West supports neo-nazis (admittedly the Israeli support of Jewish neo-nazis is pretty hard to believe)? I know much of this is because the West has done a very good job in the past of automating a simultaneous belief of freedom with deep ideology, but it seems a lot of people in the media even have to know there are lies going on.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:36 | 4520693 Ensowatt
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The US is planning to replace Russia as Ukraine’s main gas supplier by selling fracked gas to Ukraine. America is quickly trying to pull together its plan to start exporting natural gas resources to Europe by using the Ukraine as its cash cow. 

 

http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_07/Frack-attack-US-plans-to-replace-Rus...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:04 | 4520858 TheFourthStooge-ing
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America is quickly trying to pull together its plan to start exporting natural gas resources to Europe by using the Ukraine as its cash cow.

Given that the US is a net importer of natural gas, how do you expect that to happen?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:35 | 4520984 Element
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Bluff?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:30 | 4520970 beaglebog
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They US would have to extract the gas.

Compress the gas or liquefy it.

Build special LNG ships.

Transport it.

Build some sort of reception area.

Sounds awfully expensive.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:56 | 4521051 general ambivalent
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Could be a long 3-4 winters.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:09 | 4521124 Urban Redneck
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4 winters is the current timeline. But when is anything big in Louisiana built on-time or under-budget?

(Even without the EPA getting involved)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:53 | 4521572 Slartebartfast
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LOL!  Dumbass!  Ukraine can't even pay for gas from Russia.  They may be a "cow", but they sure ain't got no "cash".

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:53 | 4520797 rubiconsolutions
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"....as the people of Europe discover they can't cook their dinner without Vladimir Putin's consent."

So it's the opposite of the US way of doing things. Over there it's the consent of the governors.

/s

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:09 | 4520866 SWRichmond
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Perhaps, just perhaps, the people of Europe still remember the last war, unlike Americans who have no memory of war being fought on home soil and destroying cities / roads choked with refugees / killing millions.  Maybe they really just don't want to do that anymore.  Maybe they're happy to trade with Russia, perhaps even hold their noses while doing so, rather than make war with them.

It seems it's the US, whose psychopathic "leaders" are happy to make war in someone else's backyard, to constantly push for dominance, "leaders" who are able to get the American people to go along, mostly because the American people have no memory of just what it means to have a war fought right outside your fucking house.

Doesn't anyone study history anymore?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:00 | 4521078 TheMeatTrapper
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"Doesn't anyone study history anymore?"

 

Nope. They rewrite it and teach it as 'truth'. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:18 | 4520629 disabledvet
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absolutely. if the Bosphorous shuts down "you can't get the food out."

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:20 | 4520637 negative rates
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?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:23 | 4520645 GetZeeGold
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Forget it....he's rolling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWcEqQhnIU

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:08 | 4520600 PR Guy
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Do you think they have a plan? Oh well, maybe Putin has.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:14 | 4520618 Global Hunter
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Their plan is to throw as much shit against the wall as they can and see what sticks including backing Nazis and Jihadists.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:26 | 4520659 tony wilson
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you are a nazi and a jew hater.

the very idea that jewish folks in london,usa and israel would hire arabs,musselmun islamics and ukraine nazis to be a bridge head into countries is racialists and anti semenetick how dare you sir.

 

 

 

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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:39 | 4520719 new game
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nothing about hate, just playing the pawns...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:46 | 4520756 spoon-fed
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a little "on the job" training is all it takes.. http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:25 | 4520952 Son of Captain Nemo
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Thanks for information dump 'spoon-fed' or should say "crap".

At least Haaretz is either willing to speak the truth of the sabotage they have contributed to in the $5 billion odyssey backed by Chevron and George Soros, or they enjoy sticking their chin out yet again.

Wouldn't want to be a Mossad agent, or U.S. CIA inside Ukraine right about now. 

As I've said before the big payout isn't going to be worth much when someone is standing over as youare strapped to a chair with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch ready to declare you a "non-enemy combatant" and is prepared to get "medieval on your buttocks"!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:50 | 4520784 agent default
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And where is Israel's reaction against Nazis taking over in Ukraine?

DO NOT ASK THIS QUESTION. EVER.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:09 | 4521130 Kirk2NCC1701
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After consulting with Mr. Spock on this, I am told that at the level of "pure logic" their non-reaction is ... "illogical".

For a nation so sensitive to anything remotely Nazi-like or antisemitic, one would expect a massive reaction from both Israel and the US/Obama.  The fact that not even a "peep" has been forthcoming, suggests/betrays a bigger & deeper Agenda.  We simply have to look for that Agenda, by asking the standard questions of:

> Who benefits in Israel, by ignoring the blatant Nazi positions by the thugs in Kiev?  Who, who?  Who let the dogs out?   Who, who?

> Spock suggests one possibility for 'Motive':  Given that the International Community is threatening Israel with Sanctions, it is to their benefit to have that community focus on other/bigger issues -- whether real or created... like, Ukraine, for example.

http://pamelageller.com/2010/01/obama-threatens-warlike-actions-against-...

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/03/obama-to-israel-make-peace-now-or-...

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/obamas-big-breakthrough-coming-by-end-of-year/

http://www.juancole.com/2014/03/sanctions-permanent-occupation.html

And in case you don't think that AIPAC has US politicians in its pocket, read this regarding Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tx): 

   http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/.premium-1.578159

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:18 | 4520627 DaddyO
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Firstly, I think this whole Ukrainian affair show a schism in the rarified world of oligarchical bankers and their factions.

Secondly, Putin is making them pay for gas already shipped and used on credit.

Pay up bitchez or else!

DaddyO

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:06 | 4520868 johnQpublic
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 Any problems, he goes to Paulie. Trouble with the bill? He can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops, deliveries, Tommy, he can call Paulie. But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week, no matter what. Business bad? "Fuck you, pay me." Oh, you had a fire? "Fuck you, pay me." Place got hit by lightning, huh? "Fuck you, pay me."

 

 

Putin has cable and is just folloing the 'goodfellas' playbook

and if they dont pay, he's gonna burn 'em out

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:39 | 4521242 Overfed
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Paulie sounds like a government tax collector.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:21 | 4520596 negative rates
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Those were "his people" silly. Ouch, now you're really startin to get on my last nerve.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:08 | 4520601 TideFighter
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Remember...Obama has a phone and a pen. His worst threat is to call people and jot down notes.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:32 | 4520679 CrimsonAvenger
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Never send a stenographer to do a man's job.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:09 | 4520604 BandGap
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Vlad the Impaler versus Barry the Inhaler

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:11 | 4520609 GetZeeGold
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Time for Thunderdome!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:39 | 4520712 unrulian
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Barry is in a water hazzard on 17, Vlad is riding a shark (i saw it on ZH)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:02 | 4520575 observer007
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How Klitschko Brothers Sell The Ukraine To The West

 

 

"The Klitschko brothers acquired the West for themselves, now their agency shall acquire the East for You."

Big Business - secret Klitschko-Papers HERE:

http://homment.com/klitschko-eng

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:02 | 4520576 HedgeAccordingly
Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:02 | 4520577 dirtyfiles
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here you mama jeans president

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:02 | 4520578 the not so migh...
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Obama is a phony faggot with a bunch of sealed records, Putin is going to eat his lunch now. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:06 | 4520589 Winston Churchill
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Can't help but wonder what Russian intelligence has in its extensive dossier

on Obozo.Could get interesting.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:07 | 4520598 the not so migh...
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It was fun controlling the president but now play time is over, i think they could distroy his presisdency very easly without a shot. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:13 | 4520615 GetZeeGold
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Release of some candid photos?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:23 | 4520643 Husk-Erzulie
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One can dream.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:41 | 4520730 new game
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and snowden is sitting smugly with a wry smile :)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:55 | 4520806 GetZeeGold
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You don't suppose the NSA spied on the President....do you?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:51 | 4520790 agent default
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Why would they want to destroy Obama and end the clusterfuck?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:57 | 4520820 NotApplicable
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Exactly, then they would have to create a new clusterfuck from scratch.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:00 | 4520834 the not so migh...
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multi prong, interesting angle, what you think a cluster fuck and what others think is a cluster fuck will be seen shortly

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/putin-targets-americas-achilles-he...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:07 | 4520595 Sudden Debt
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A nice slap game http://youtu.be/AE5rFPhWKTE

I don' t know if you play that with your kid but that's another thing....

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:03 | 4520581 fonzannoon
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It's all downtime. Permanent downtime.  Just like a few years ago we waited on baited breath every 3 weeks for Greece to exit the euro. This is all a bunch of crap. BTFD. BTFATH. That is all.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:12 | 4520610 TheFourthStooge-ing
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BTFEA - Buy the fucking everything, always.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:34 | 4520642 Dr. Engali
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My thoughts exactly. Any 'sell off' that may or may not come from this is to be bought. I don't believe for a moment that there is going to be any big face off between the west and Russia. In the end it's all about how much each oligarch can steal from their particular region.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:29 | 4520668 kito
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Actually fonz this is the beginning of the end for the u.s. somehow this will culminate in the tipping point next year where all faith is lost in the u.s. and the dollar.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:46 | 4520758 fonzannoon
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btfteotwawki

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:55 | 4521303 Freddie
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All faith lost in the USSA?  We are already there.  Trayvon Amerika is broke, totally corrupt, milltary ground into the ground, corrupt zio-defense contractors selling worthless shit like the F-35 for insane prices, police state with Silicon Valley helping the USSA STazi, banksters and Congress/O looting anything left.

Just like the Ukraine was looted during this phony coup.   The place was dirt poor but they took what was left.  Sickening.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:04 | 4520584 Sudden Debt
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"Russia will not accept the language of sanctions and threats"

 

I never thought I'd say this but Russia is 100% right. Why the fuck are we the true bastards here? Do we really want to fight a bear and bite his balls?? NOT ME! THAT'S FOR SURE!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:10 | 4520605 negative rates
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You don't work for Bill Oriely.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:15 | 4520620 disabledvet
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this is a "food fight." If Ukraine goes "off line" food prices in Britain will soar.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:26 | 4520650 GetZeeGold
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So what you're saying is....that might be a good strategy?

 

No worries....I'm sure Congress will subsidize that as well.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:25 | 4520655 negative rates
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Oh, another failed dry powder A student here. Butt I thought we took care of that in the bathroom last night behind closed doors, just you and me, the red line and the toilet. Was I mistaken here or are you still in denial about it all??

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:04 | 4520585 yogibear
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Nice time for Russia, China and other countries to send all those US dollars back the US. Probably more than the $16 trillion estimated.

Let's see the Fed buy it all up without expanding their balance sheet. Funny accounting, just like their banks.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:16 | 4520623 Winston Churchill
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Never  let a good crisis go to waste.

The petro dollar is now in a MAD scenario.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:24 | 4520648 DaddyO
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"NOW"?!?

When has it not been, it's fiat right?

It is just being displaced as the reserve currency in an effort to insulate others from being dragged into the pit with it.

Unfortunately for all, fiat is doomed no matter what flavor it may be.

DaddyO

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:34 | 4520682 tony wilson
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IMMEDIATE PETRO-DOLLAR RISK

If the Kremlin demands Gold bullion (or even Russian Rubles) for oil payments, then the interventions to subvert the Ruble currency by the London and Wall Street houses will backfire and blow up in the bankster faces

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1394139780.php

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:44 | 4520750 Debugas
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that is not likely to happen because russia needs about $400B for itsd yearly imports

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:00 | 4521320 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yes!  I agree with this assessment.  In fact... I already have:

Here 4509175  here 4513240 and here  4513774 .  Go Wicked Willie!  ;-)

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:28 | 4520666 BadDog
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That's why myRA was created.  So American savers will utimately be forced to sop up the liquidity at negative yields.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:47 | 4520763 Joenobody12
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but but but........dear leader said it is risk free. He promised ! 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:42 | 4520739 Global Observer
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What should they expect in return for those dollars? Or should they simply transfer them to charities in the US?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:05 | 4520586 sudzee
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Crimea to the west:

Your papers are not in order, you will not enter.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:05 | 4520587 ParkAveFlasher
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As Obama pencils his bogey in to a par, Putin changes maps.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:12 | 4520611 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Wait until he gets 14 holes in one in one round. He's gotta be better at golf than old Kim Jong Ill was.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:05 | 4520588 rsnoble
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Downtime=A  new US stock market high every fucking day.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:06 | 4520592 Joenobody12
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Buy GOLD ! BUY GLD calls ! 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:15 | 4520619 GetZeeGold
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Just buy real gold......forget GLD.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:07 | 4520594 fijisailor
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These psychopaths are trying to start WW3 again.  Time for me to abandon ship you dick heads.  Setting sail for the Southern Hemisphere so I live just a little longer.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:12 | 4520612 negative rates
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Careful down there, no one ever escaped by being to far south of the equator.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:08 | 4520599 williambanzai7
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Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:16 | 4520624 GetZeeGold
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I was kinda hoping he would just go away after yesterday....but I guess not.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:28 | 4520664 DaddyO
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It is growing into a more likely scenario of "Yes, we did" eh WB7?

DaddyO

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:09 | 4520603 Incubus
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come on let's get ww3 on already.  See if I give a fuck all about the greater good of humanity.  We're all going to be playing along to these cycles until a meteor, supervolcano, or something of that order ends us.

 

So let's just fight and fellate the guys ontop of us on the totem pole. This is humanity, folks.  I want my fucking money back.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:17 | 4520626 GetZeeGold
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Sorry.....no refunds.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:10 | 4520606 shovelhead
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Next week Obama will demand that Pakistan and India begin unification talks.

Ireland is next year.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:12 | 4520613 Global Hunter
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German and Silesia reunification talks? 

Obama: Hi Angela I know we can't get you your gold back in...like forever...so how about we try to get you Danzig?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:10 | 4520607 Global Hunter
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I imagine that if Putin did talk to Obama for an hour, he was calm and said whatever Obama wanted to hear but deep down inside was pissed off his time was being wasted by the teleprompter puppet and that he was angry that Obama's handlers and the real decision makers wouldn't speak to him.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:13 | 4520616 disabledvet
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I found the Ukrainian Prime Minister's comment about "political solutions" quite dispositive. It's also interesting to note companies like Bunge, ADM, etc with huge businesses in Ukraine.

Any major move by Russia out of Crime(s)a would have a dramatic impact on food prices in Britain believe it or not.

Not only that but it is possible that an entire Russian Army could get "bottled up" in Crimea itself. "Once you're on that island you really can't go anywhere."

In order to secure the Springtime planting season the EU might have to hit and hit hard here. We've already got LRRP's on the border with Ukraine and Russia. Diplomacy has been non-existent since Day One here.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:17 | 4520625 Elliptico
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Rut roh. "Mexican president claims Spanish speaking Americans under threat in the USA.". Look out San Diego!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:17 | 4520628 buzzsaw99
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hey putin, whatever you do, don't answer the phone, it might be bugged

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:20 | 4520636 Unstable Condition
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"Might be"?

HA!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:18 | 4520630 TheMeatTrapper
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I can see this news driving the DOW at least a hundred points higher. Maybe more. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:18 | 4520632 Fix It Again Timmy
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It certainly is "March Madness" and I ain't talk'n 'bout basketball.....

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:21 | 4520639 blindman
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Tom Waits/Cookie Monster - Hell Broke Luce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbiioBFkD_Q

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:08 | 4520641 WhyWait
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Once again, it's out of Putin's hands.  I don't doubt for a minute that he meant it when he said he didn't want to annex Crimea and had no intention of doing so.  It's the wrong move in the chess game he's playing.  But this ain't chess anymore - it's spinning out of control of the leaders. Oh Putin still matters, still has a lot of influence, as do Merkel and Obama (ok, Merkel and Obama's handlers), but it's becoming increasingly evident that no one fully controls the people on the ground anymore, or even controls the Russian Parliament.  

This is what the unleashing of the Dogs of War looks like.  

One of my professors, a veteran of the Battle of the Bulge, used to interrupt the process of deriving some equation, a derivation that was going to take the next week, and lay out for us one last time the phenomenon we were trying to model and the model we were constructing.  Take a good look, he would say, and fix this in your mind, because for the next week we're going to be lost in the smoke of battle.

Somehow this seems like such a moment in Ukraine.  Take a good look folks, 'cause we're about to get lost in the smoke of battle. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:01 | 4521612 WhyWait
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OK looks like I was wrong. Partly.  Events on the ground are constraining Putin's moves, but it looks like it was Obama's sanctions move that forced his hand.  He's still playing chess.  The US is expecting him and Russia to cave under pressure.  Will he?  He still has an out, he still has the power to throw the Russian-speakers and assorted non-fascists in Ukraine under the bus if the Russian nationalists will let him. Will they?

btw everyone should have a Geiger counter and know how to use it. Just my 2c

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:25 | 4520651 countryboy42
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Rumor has it that Russian made ammo is not being exported. Not sure if this is true, but might be an interesting side note. I don't use the stuff as the steel cases nick the feed ramps on my AR, but I do have some around, just in case. We got 10,000 rnds. of 22lr in this week, none of it hit the shelves, and the shop is having a very tough time getting the ammo we need just for test firing. Keep preppin'.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:44 | 4521011 Manipuflation
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+1 for the feed ramp comment.  Russian ammo does not feed well through my American steel and likes to jam so I quit shooting it years ago.  Works great in my AK though!;-)  Good thing I stocked up years ago.  Before ZH was even a website I came the conclusion that I probably had enough ammo to last the rest of my life.  I was transporting some of it in the back of the truck some years back and noticed that the ass end of my truck was sagging pretty badly under the weight.  I thought to myself, "What am I going to say if I get pulled over."  I really shouldn't have to say anything other than "Mind your own business" but we all know that those days are gone.  I think I would be considered a "domestic terrorist" these days.

 

Tons of military ammo and guns came pouring out of the Eastern Bloc in the late 90's and early 2000's and it was dirt cheap.  Guess who bought it?  I bought as much as I could!  It was just so stupid cheap that you just had to buy it.

I'm not too worried.  I know plenty of folks who have even more ammo than I do.  The ammo supply is not the issue but rather the will to do anything.  Does it really matter that I have the amount of guns and ammo that I do?  I don't even know what to do with it all.  Maybe I should sell some of it?  It would be a nice nominal profit in those terms but I would hate to see it wasted on shooting up a cornfield.

     

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 13:31 | 4521740 Georgiabelle
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Dude, word. Thanks to the NSA, the friendly folks at DHS and ATF will likely be there shortly to take it off your hands. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:25 | 4520652 rationaldemocracy
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Russia must be stopped!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:28 | 4520663 blindman
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then go fix it, take a sandwich.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:02 | 4520848 Joenobody12
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You need to learn to spell, the community organizer's name spells O-B-A-M-A, not Russia. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:07 | 4520871 silvermail
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EuNATO must be stopped!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:25 | 4520656 kenezen
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Crimea is an autonomous independent Republic with its own Constitution. It has freedom to make choices. If it votes, certainly the leader or the free world and champion of individual "States" rights could not possibly have a problem with that!  

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:31 | 4520675 rationaldemocracy
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According to Huffington post ( a news source I agree with) Russia's goals are not just to tear away Crimea from Ukraine but also to do the same with the baltic republics...so this isn't about Crimea which by the way has to go through a referendum first, you talk like people want to join Russia which may not turn out to be the case

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:39 | 4520713 tony wilson
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According to Huffington post ( a news source I agree with)

this aint the huff post bitch

FUCK OFF YA HERE

 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:40 | 4520727 fijisailor
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Then go back there and kiss their ass and I hope you die a slow death of radiation sickness.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:07 | 4520872 Arkadaba
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Huffington Post coverage on most issues is incredibly facile and on political issues it comes off as a propaganda mouthpiece for the democratic party. If you are really interested in learning more about what is happening in Ukraine, here are few places to start:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/ukraine--a-burning-divid...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/03/ukraine-intervention-and-americas...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/the-ukraine-crisis-through-the-whimsy-of-in...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:21 | 4520933 TheFourthStooge-ing
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rationaldemocracy said:

According to Huffington post ( a news source I agree with) Russia's goals are not just to tear away Crimea from Ukraine but also to do the same with the baltic republics...

Trying out to be a cub reporter for the Accredited Times?

so this isn't about Crimea which by the way has to go through a referendum first, you talk like people want to join Russia which may not turn out to be the case

...and should the Crimeans vote to join Russia, or even just break away from the Ukraine, you'll still find a way to say that it's undemocratic, right?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:36 | 4521209 general ambivalent
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According to the Huffington Post Putin hates gay people and should be shamed in all media outlets with homoerotic jokes (anyone who takes off their shirt is so so gay), which are much more effective than sanctions by the way, until he capitulates. And worse than Hitler he is about to invade all of the Mom Jeans outlets in the West! He must be stopped!

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:05 | 4520861 Joenobody12
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By mobilizing 30 nuclear bombers, Putin tries not to underestimate the stupidity of our dear leader. You never know what a Nobel piss prize winner may decide to do next.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 11:28 | 4521188 Urban Redneck
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I don't think the message is intended for the dear leader (or the public at large)- I think it is intended for those who cook up the children's menu of options that is presented to the Child-in-Chief to select from among...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:27 | 4520661 new game
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i would arrest that delgation at the border, let them in and bring them in on charges of conspiricy to over throw a soverien government. any meddling by the west will be met with swift arrest and charges.  we have laws in russia, this is not the west were bankers weasle in and take control.  mafia vs bankers. i will side with mafia, as they have no hidden agenda. sounds crazy, but that is the plain truth. fucked or more fucked...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:28 | 4520667 Reaper
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Putin should demand to speak directly with Jarret.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:36 | 4520691 Husk-Erzulie
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Or Kissinger...

"Vat do you mean you vill not speak with my ignorant negro sock puppet?"

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:29 | 4520671 vjmali
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Is there a War ETF?  If not, can we construct one in retrospect and see how it would have outperformed the market?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:09 | 4520885 negative rates
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We have one, it's called the MIC ETF, it's run by congress for congress.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:31 | 4520673 Kina
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Crimea is an autonomous independent Republic with its own Constitution. It has freedom to make choices. If it votes, certainly the leader or the free world and champion of individual "States" rights could not possibly have a problem with that! 

 

The US doesn't care what the people there think or want, it isn't part of the game they are planning. And if it is being run by the military industrial bankster complex they wont care of the consequences to Russia, Europe or the US so long as they win out of it.

But they would have to be extraordinarily stupid to think they can push Russia too far without facing significant consequences in other places around the world critical to the US economy and engergy supply.

And China wont stay quiet to the end, especially since they need distractions and a common foe.

 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:34 | 4520685 Kina
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The Huffington post runs only the Obama line...they are expanding the reasons to for the US to put more pressure on Russia, shoring up Obama's line.

 

Russia is not going to want to cause distability on the back of the current affair.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:39 | 4520715 Husk-Erzulie
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HuffPo was bad enough when Ariana had it.  Now it has become a celebrity gossip rag with some LCD lefty political spew thrown in for show.  I imagine whatever talent they had moved on some time ago.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:34 | 4520686 Sufiy
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US Dollar Slides To New Low 79.51 As Ukraine Situation Moves To Economic Warfare

 US Military Complex can not be challenged by anyone in the open conflict, but once things are moving into the field of asymmetric economic warfare tactics of Financial Wars U.S. has a problem. Economy can not really handle any external shocks now, Bubble in the equity markets is not translating into the healthy growth so far. Any serious correction in the market can bring very weak economic data further in the proximity of potential recession. And this is where Ukraine situation is coming so handily to the FED's rescue out of Taper. Do you really think that the banks want the tigthening of the money supply now? FED wants Weak US Dollar, FED wants Inflation and FED is ready to pause Taper at any excuse now. Further escalation around Ukraine situation will provide this excuse right in time when the economic data will be turning even weaker than now.

 

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/us-dollar-slides-to-new-low-7951-as....

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:36 | 4520692 eddiebe
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Who knows what is really going on. Somehow I doubt that what being played out on the stage is it. I still tend to believe that Putin and Obama both are reading from a script written by the owners of this planet.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:41 | 4520734 ParaZite
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???????? ??? ?????!

The smartest way for Russia to "win", is to dump every US dollar based asset they have, cash out quick, and talk their allies into do the same thing, all at the same time. Some would say this would be stupid, but if they can manage to get China, Iran, etc involved, the American dollar would be worth as much as a Weimar Republic mark. Then the US dollar could depreciate to it's real worth, zero. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:42 | 4520738 ParaZite
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The question marks were "Do it Fa**ot!" in Russian. 

Some things get lost in translation. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:42 | 4520741 Sufiy
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Gold Catalyst: Economist John Williams: Financial Collapse if Russia Sells U.S. Dollar Holdings 

 With Ukraine in the headlines Greg Hunter discusses with John Williams the complications for the US Dollar Reserve Currency Status of the ongoing Financial War. China has sold the record amount of US Treasuries in December and buying the record amount of Gold. Today US Dollar has crashed below 80.00 again and closed at 79.66. Russia has already warned US that any sanctions will come back to those who will implement it. With China siding with Russia we can expect the acceleration of De-Dollarisation now. 

 

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/gold-catalyst-economist-john-william...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:43 | 4520744 Kina
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Only one thing needs to happen to stop the US in its tracks...and back peddling.  A sudden very large explosion at a large Saudi oil well and maybe some smaller ones...by shiite rebels.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:09 | 4520878 Joenobody12
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Sounds good, I am loaded with Oil names anyway.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:47 | 4520765 hungarianboy
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What I don't get is this. If the people in Crimea want to join the Russian Federation. Why the f**k is Obama and Merkel doing everything to avoid that? Who the hell they think they are?

Why don't they bother dismantling the Mexican drugloards and those FSA terrorist instead.

 

Pffffffff

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:47 | 4520766 hungarianboy
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Sorry double posted.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:47 | 4520771 Pullmyfinger
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An absolute must-read with respect to the developing Ukraine situation:

Ukraine as the USDollar Waterloo
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1394139780.php

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 12:07 | 4521360 Optimusprime
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Thanks.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:49 | 4520774 Kina
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Russia can simply redirect its oil exports to itself if there is a supply problem.

 

However trouble in Saudi wont cause a supply problem....just severe fear of one...that will spike eneergy prices through the roof. And also cause the worry that Russia and its friends might stoke more trouble in the region via Shiites

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:50 | 4520785 VladLenin
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Hope and change! Americans you need to realize that immediate regime change in your country is necessary OR ELSE your government will lead you to ruin. 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:13 | 4520897 Tursas
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Isn't our job to change the regimes in other countries? We have a most democratic country of the world proven by the 0.1% that owns all the important facilities like White House, Congress, the Supreme Court and the News Media ... have me missed anything important to buy?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:57 | 4520789 lakecity55
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"Your call is important to us. Please remain on the line for the next available representative for President Putin. Did you know Russian Oil and Gas are important products available worldwide by Gasprom? See or call you Gazprom representative today!..........Your call is important to us. Please remain on the line for the next available representative. Did you know Russia manufactures and sells top quality Military Equipment? Call our Representative today!...........Why wait when you can leave a message on VladMail? Press 1 if you are a Russian. Press 2 if you are one of our allies. All other press 3 for general mail. A Representative will return your call ASAP. Thank you for calling the Kremlin. Goodbye."

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:56 | 4520796 hungarianboy
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All Russia has to do is to sell all it's Euro's and dollars at market, and tell the world that they can pay for Russian natural resources in Gold and silver and Bitcoin. That would definiteley shut them up.

If that's to much, than 50% in gold and silver and bitcoins.

 Even a statement like that that they consider to use gold and silver as means of receiving for their natural resources will definitely panic US and EU. They don't even need to go to war. Just a hint at something like this.

Good luck with that. if not then no natural resources and global chaos will start.

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 09:54 | 4520803 Canucklehead
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Does anyone have any thoughts on where the bottom will be for OGZPY?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q;_ylt=A0PDklxmzhlTaSYBYwULv7gF;_ylu=X3oDMTEzaG...

Also, any thoughts on when the world will "discover" that Yanukovich is dead?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/04/ukraine-crisis-putin-rumours-i...

How about the dates for the funerals of the rumor mongers?

Does Vegas or London offer any over/under for any of this?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:06 | 4520860 Tursas
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About the same as with Shell when it's Russian assets are nationalized!  Gazprom will have a happy client in China and after the nuclear power problems also soon in Japan!  More trouble to NWO...

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:02 | 4520845 Son of Captain Nemo
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Moments ago Russia accused the European Union of taking an "extremely unconstructive position" by freezing talks on easing visa barriers that complicate travel between Russia and the EU over Ukraine.

Russia needs to recall there embassies in the U.S. U.K. Israel and Germany and throw them out of Moscow as well as a new "litmus test".

When those embassies and the mass exodus of personnel start taking one-way flights home and are threatening to be shut down for good, Just watch what will happen next?

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:08 | 4520876 Incubus
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WORLD WAR, SEASON 3

 

Fri, 03/07/2014 - 10:22 | 4520936 wtf1369
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