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The Demise Of The American Dream (In 2 Charts)

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Presented with little comment aside to note that when 'work is punished' the demise of 'opportunity' will continue...


The painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative - in the form of actual disposable income - to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

And that trend appears to be accelerating as more and more men drop out of the workforce...

and the demise of opportunity continues unabated...


... "life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement" regardless of social class or circumstances of birth (or amount of stock ownership).


h/t @Not_Jim_Cramer


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Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:58 | 4526504 HyBrasilian
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Poor Americans... they 'sold themselves out' to cheesesteak bankers on a PAPER promise... Right now ~ the cheesesteak bankers are hustling their way out of town with suitcases full of gold... Just as they've done for the past 3,000 years...


Boo fucking [H]oo... Learn how to grow yourself a fucking OKRA plant & you'll be happier than u ever were b4...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:19 | 4526638 caShOnlY
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Weekends suck for us ZH'ers.  The regular staffing is off so the second stringers cut and paste old articles together.  "Recycle".

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:43 | 4526685 Atomizer
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Turn up your speakers numbnuts. Plenty going on..

Minor Threat - Stumped

Fugazi - Steady Diet of Nothing| Long Division


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:25 | 4527047 HisNameIsRP
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Guilty OBW

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:11 | 4526969 Atlas_shrugging
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Ok Cashonly then why don't you put out a website that reports news and commentary worldwide faster than major media outlets...for free. Jackass

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 09:46 | 4527300 hankwil74
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To post the Labor Force participation rate for American males and not a chart showing the changing demographic breakdown of American males is intellectually dishonest at best and disinformation at worst.  In 1950, less than 8% of the male population was 65+.  What is it today?  15%? 18%?  Obviously, these changing demographics don't account for ALL of the drop in the labor force participation rate, but they do account for a large chunk.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 13:56 | 4527934 Rafferty
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True.  There's lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:19 | 4527368 -.-
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I'm glad that I was not the first one to notice the err of redundancy...oh, and I was the 1-out-of-a-possible-5 vote for this article due to it being vacant information on two charts that we have seen


It's supposedly a fight club

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:21 | 4527377 -.-
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Don't let your feelings get hurt

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 12:16 | 4527621 william114085
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horse, bet and watch from the comforts of home

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:24 | 4526508 Freewheelin Franklin
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American Dream ---> Food Stamps and an Obamaphone.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:17 | 4527360 toady
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I like the verbiage in the article better.

Sit, do nothing, and collect = the American dream.

And it spreads across more than just the charts provided.

Corporations automate/computerize as much as possible, getting rid of employees by the millions.

Sit, do nothing but run computer cycles, collect.

The Congress produced the least bills ever, while taking longer & longer tax funded vacations.

Sit, do nothing but lie, collect.

It's the American way! Figure out how to make the most money with the least effort!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:29 | 4526526 A Lunatic
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I guess you can put a price on pride. Looks like it's worth about 30 grand........

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:31 | 4526659 Grande Tetons
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Marcelus Wallace was right.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:30 | 4526530 DonFromWyoming
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Tylers - you missed the most important benefit of all.  Towards the left side of the first chart, you don't have to work.  Wanting to move right on that chart is a dumb move, and American voters are not dumb when it comes to voting for more money for themselves.  From Jamie Dimon down to the non-working welfare queens, they all get it - get what you can from the gummint while you can, and the hell with everyone else or the future.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:57 | 4526593 kchrisc
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First off, welfare is theft. Not by the recipient, but by the provider who stole the money from others in the first and is stealing the soul of the recipient in the second.

The chart also details enslavement.

Most people desire to work. Maybe not digging ditches, but to create, produce and be valued. Welfare sets a bar that values ones work less than it would without welfare's existence. Basically, someone earning, say $60,000 a year as a mid-level accountant or IT pro, is earning about on par with a welfare mom not working. On a net basis, your work, sweat, experience and knowledge are worth nothing. You would have to earn a lot more, more than any firm will pay, for said same work to be of higher intrinsic value on a net basis.

I do believe that this sense, the reduced value of one's work compared to those that are "supported," is the source of so many people’s rage against welfare recipients.

However, the problem is NOT the welfare recipient, but the one that stole the money and destroyed the economic opportunities that is the problem, the enemy. The enemies are the criminals of the government and their bankster masters.

Don't miss the forest, the government, for the trees, the welfare recipient.


"My guillotine will gladly eat a bankster today and pay you Tuesday."

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:04 | 4526733 Stuck on Zero
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Great points.  The way I see it the Government is bidding against employers by providing welfare.


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 04:43 | 4527120 SAT 800
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Yep. and by welcoming 13 million illegal immigrants. "The beatings will continue until morale inmproves".

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:44 | 4526820 DonFromWyoming
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"the problem is not the welfare recipient"  ???

Give me a break.  When the banksters get zero interest money loans, that's welfare.  When a mother of young children stays at home to raise her kid and gets various monetary and non-monetary grants, that's welfare.  When a farmer is paid to leave land fallow instead of planting crops, that's welfare.  When government illegally changes the rules to favor unions in control of GM, that's welfare.

Yes, government is the deadly force that takes wealth away from producers/owners and transfers it to welfare recipients ... but for heaven's sake, if the welfare recipients said NO, DON'T DO THAT, then government wouldn't steal the wealth.  The source of the problem is that democracy empowers "legal" theft, plain and simple.  And the thieves are those who support and profit from the welfare.  So don't try to put it off on some evil government cabal.  As Pogo said -

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:25 | 4526901 gtb
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Right on brother...

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:43 | 4527002 kchrisc
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My main point is, who is the enemy--who is dandgeous and who is important to affecting a slolution?

Putting a welfare mom to the guillotine will not stop the criminals of government and their stealing masters, the banksters, from continuing to steal. Even if welfare is stopped, the criminals will just continue to steal and piss it away elsewhere.

And who is more criminal and dangerous, the welfare mom or the criminal handing her part of our labor and product? Who is more dangerous, the welfare mom, or the criminal sitting in an office coming up with more production and labor hindering regulations? Who is more dangerous, the welfare mom, or the criminals going around kicking in doors and seizing property and lives based on tyrannical "rules" that they themselves make up?

No those that are doing the stealing and "giving" away what is not theirs are the enemy. That enemy is government. And if that government is outside the bounds of their founding and restraining documents, then they are that much more criminal.


The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying , quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: Is there really any place for these sociopaths and criminals in a restored civil and Constitutional society?!
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 09:05 | 4527260 new game
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kchrisc, as you climb the ladder, above gov wonks you get to the source of this evil>banksters, next stop is the fed. but next up to the top is the real enemy> shadowy figures that own the system>the richest muthers fucks with no conscience-pathelogical sociopaths that know and understand the human to a tee. they are well insulated and own the system. the money gods.

so we are stuck understanding it all, but helpless to do much. we watch for another day/same shit. now it is a futile war in ukraine. all predictable. only one option for me >opt out, enjoy the day, and take all i said with a grain of salt...

sorry, but i wish i could offer a real solution, but as is and as it will always be, just history, truth and time, the fourth dimension..

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 19:14 | 4528756 kchrisc
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Yes, but big, out of bounds and criminal government is their tool. No big government, no oppression.

The banksters have always tried to defraud their depositors. If government did what they are mandated to do, justice, and held the banksters responsible for their fraud there would be much less "fraudulent-reserve banking." Instead they climbed in to bed with the criminals and destroyed the country of the American people.

Ditto the 'tribe' sociopaths. Their tool is big, out of bounds and criminal government serving their shams and scams. No need to deport or kill them, just take away their tool, big, out of bounds and criminal government.

They of government are the threat. They of government are the tool of oppression. They of government are the enemy.


"Hand a loaded pistol to a 6-year old and he's dangerous. Take it away and he's not."

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 03:33 | 4527089 praps
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"However, the problem is NOT the welfare recipient, but the one that stole the money and destroyed the economic opportunities that is the problem"



Is that really the problem?  Or is the real problem that a minority now own most of the US land and have been able to reduce wages of the majority to a minimum, effectively creating a slave labour force.  Welfare benefits are simply a response to slave wages. 

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:47 | 4527438 FredFlintstone
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Get off you arse, be productive and rewards will come your way.

or don't. But quit bitching.


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 07:05 | 4527189 barroter
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Gauge the damage done to this financial system by banksters vs welfare moms, guess who wins?  You see this constantly, the elite trying like hell to get the rest of you blame the weakest amongst us.  Remember! It was the guy who bags your groceries who invented the CDS.  High Frequency Trading? That's the fault of the scraggly bearded homeless guy by the park! And the trillion $ prize winner, shadow banking, goes to any seeing a dime of evil fed/state benefits, which includes everyone on Social Secuirty!

Please leave the elite alone, they cannot enjoy their ill gotten gains if you start blaming them.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 11:57 | 4527578 jerry_theking_lawler
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What's wrong with 'theft' if it is for the good of the people....We have been taught to love Robin Hood since we were children.

He was a thief, yet idolized.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 04:04 | 4527095 Things that go bump
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Who are these welfare queens you guys keep talking about? Some young woman with 2 small kids whose husband went off in search of fresh pussy and finds his child support cramps his style? Sometimes a man will fool you; you think he's a father, but it turns out he was only a sperm donor and you only find out after its too damn late. He moves around and changes jobs a lot. Oh, maybe its some young woman who got pregnant and wouldn't or couldn't get an abortion, which would have been better for everybody? The sperm donor, of course, has headed for the hills. Where are the prolifers when she really needs them? They've headed for the hills too. How dare she take section 8 housing to put a roof over those children's heads. How dare she use daycare assistance so she can go to work. How dare she take EBS and WIC to help feed those children. If she had any pride they would live in the street and eat out of dumpsters. This place will look like India pretty soon. I've said it here before, that welfare queen is a myth; class warfare at its ugliest. The poverty of people on welfare is terrible. If you know of someone collecting welfare and driving an SUV around, its because they've only recently fallen on hard times and the repo man hasn't caught up with them yet. They'll be riding shanks mare soon enough. 

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 08:51 | 4527247 F.A. Hayek
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Be sure to give us the weather outlook from Beverly Hills when you wake up.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:30 | 4526531 kaiserhoff
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I see even more "nonparticipating" women that men.

Where's that chart?

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:04 | 4527030 Curiously_Crazy
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And furthermore, would a white male in his 30's also be better off earning $29,000 than $60,000? Somehow I think not.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:34 | 4526539 new game
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the dream has lowered expectations>new game>new reality>less is moar...

5 years from now, trailer homes with be aveage middle income earners castle.

of course, with a pick-up right in the front yard. so fucking cool...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:55 | 4526544 One And Only
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Women want to say they're equal...but we all know they're not. Not saying men are better (they compliment each other perfectly) but let's take a look at "equal pay".

How many female construction workers do you see?

How many female electricians do you see?

How many female plumbers do you see?

How many female framers do you see?

(those are all well paying jobs by the way - which in many cases can lead to starting your own business)

If females are equal than why in sports don't women compete with men?

How many females in the military sign up for combat positions? What's the percentage that actually want to?

Women want equal pay... without the "equal work" part.

Men and women are fundamentally different in just about every way. Men are built stronger and our hormones make us more aggressive and determined....which is why the best Lawyers in the world happen to be men (albeit a few exceptions). thanks to the feminists, women THINK they can get equal pay and be single mothers (YOU DON'T NEED NO MAN WOMEN!!!) and the sad reality is...we are a nation full of single mothers that can't feed themselves or their children without government assistance. Add to that a generation of children growing up without fathers.

Good job you feminist Nazis. You are one of the main reasons America is in decline.

And for the record... a lot of Obama's foreign policy blunders happened with Hillary Clinton being the Sec. Of State, so let's not talk about how awesome she is.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:04 | 4526611 Squid-puppets a...
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what a pathetic patriarchal wanker you are.

The reason you dont see many female construction workers is because they would have to put up with sexist dickheads like you


Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:16 | 4526631 One And Only
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Attack the message not the messenger.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:20 | 4526640 Squid-puppets a...
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traditionally i would, but in this instance both the message and the messanger are a blight on this planet

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:56 | 4526714 One And Only
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For a girl I bet you have big dick.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:27 | 4526781 Squid-puppets a...
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hehe it doesnt surprise me that you are so thoroughly enslaved by your gender identity and masculine superiority complex that you could not imagine that i am, in fact, a man.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:34 | 4526803 garypaul
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yes but that dress looked great on you

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 04:51 | 4527123 Troll Magnet
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squid puppet,
care to refute one and only's point?

please don't argue that Moochelle is stronger/tougher than Barry.
that's not fair.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:06 | 4526862 J Pancreas
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I'd wager you're a typical Prius-driving, white-guilted beta male metrosexual based on your comments. The dude above had a point and you tried to argue it. Game, set match, wanker.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:22 | 4526897 Squid-puppets a...
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my word, the morons abound today. Here's a guy that seems to hinge his and other's sense of identity upon what brand of car you drive

and im not sure what 'point' the guy above even had aside from a general contempt and derision of women, which is what i am reacting to.

It is actually possible - and emotionally profitable - to be comfortable in your male identity without resorting to diminishing females. Does that view make me a 'metrosexual'. Oh no! Get me some steroids quick!!

You wanna label me, so what? Im just an average guy who doesnt have the need to bluster about the fact that i was born with a dick.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:29 | 4526909 gtb
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Regardless whether you're male or female, you are a stupid cunt.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:34 | 4526917 One And Only
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Your ad hominem attacks don't fly in the forum of critical thinkers.

Take your bullshit back to huffington post or the yahoo boards.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:00 | 4526942 mophead
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Women are only good for one thing. Look at my avatar, that should give you an idea.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:39 | 4526997 One And Only
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I don't see sandwiches.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:47 | 4527010 Burnbright
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Funniest comment ever!

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:46 | 4527006 Burnbright
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Look dude, he didn't say men were better than women, he said simply that man are better at particular things than women. Lets use his statement in reverse so you understand. 

Women are better at breastfeeding than men. Kinda hard to argue with isn't it?


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 03:09 | 4527076 PhilofOz
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Self hating men.... feminists like yourself make me want to vomit! Go back to your womens studies classes if you think that's the only chance you have of getting some pussy.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 05:04 | 4527130 Squid-puppets a...
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because lifes options are just that binary, huh? You cant take issue with patriarchal discrimination without hating yourself as a man? it's just not possible that i can be comfortable in my male identity without holding women's differences with derision? What an emotionally impoverished world view

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 11:18 | 4527504 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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So in your world the only reason women do not seek out employment in physically challenging careers is because some mean man will not treat the nice.

That is beyond racist, beyond sexist, so beyond the reality of evolution. Why is that almost without exception all warring cultures throughout history have relied on males?

In your world the only reason women were not used is that their feelings might have got hurt.


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:14 | 4527039 Curiously_Crazy
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White knighting still abounds, it seems.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:21 | 4526893 One And Only
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Is that you Bruce Jenner?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:25 | 4526649 zen0
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Math is hard for Barbie.

Reality is hard for you.

"patriarchal" and "sexist" is the veil you have been taught to use to protect you.

And it was all a lie.

Meanwhile, the government encourages the moral hazard common to the least able to conduct themselves as responsible adults, and you cheerlead.

Stop being pathetic and believe your lying eyes, not your progressive oppressors.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:41 | 4526679 Squid-puppets a...
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and yet it took a chick to write Atlas Shrugged

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:48 | 4526697 zen0
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A snowflake does not prove a blizzard.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:29 | 4526774 Squid-puppets a...
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but somehow the snowflake example of hillary clinton can be used to infer that womens failures are responsible for the general demise of US international influence

edit: (not that i am in any way sticking up for clinton herself, she is as equally useless and evil as the assholes surrounding her)

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 03:12 | 4527078 PhilofOz
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.... and admit the edit came after the downvotes. Male feminists... the most disgusting of them all!

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 05:05 | 4527132 Squid-puppets a...
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if you were around at the time of the edit you would have seen the scorecard at 0/0. Male masculinists - most violent and destructive creatures on the planet. Prove that wrong.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:56 | 4527456 hootowl
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Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:53 | 4526702 One And Only
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All orginal ideas.

Who wrote the Magna Carta and the US Constitution (the two most important documents related to liberty)?

Hint: Not Jay Z

Hint: Not Ayn Rand

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:41 | 4527000 monad
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Yeah. Better bring up your game, if a little kike woman is making more sense than you. A dead kike woman at that. We have enough real problems to address 

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:45 | 4527004 monad
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Her name was Alisa Rosenbaum

Her name was Alisa Rosenbaum

Her name was Alisa Rosenbaum


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:53 | 4527450 hootowl
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Ayn Rand was a Russian Jewess chick, who recognized the ultimate progressive jihadist triumph in the Russo-Jewish-communist totalitarianism of the 1940's and 1950's, ....having escaped from behind the iron curtain.

I first read Atlas Shrugged when I was in high school in the mid 1950s.....when we were still taught to read something beyond the 3rd grade level.

She was, indeed, prescient in recognizing the nascent communist takeover of the Demoncrap Party in the late 1940s.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 04:29 | 4527114 Idi_ocracy
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Women don't work on construction sites normally because most of them are not physically capable of dealing with hard labour, no matter how much feminists want to pretend otherwise, there was a reason that back when we were hunter gatherers, men went out to get the food and women raised the children. Its not sexist, its an undeniable fact of life.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 12:35 | 4527682 dizzyfingers
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Idi_ocracy Agree. I notice women on road-building or -repair crews are holding traffic-warning flags. Maybe they're needed, I don't argue that, and may be hot and dirty, but they're not doing the real work. Probably a union requirement to have female "labor"?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:39 | 4526674 CrazyCatLady
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uhh- was johnson a feminist?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:20 | 4526765 MontgomeryScott
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He was a 'progressive' Demoncrat.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:26 | 4526983 TimmyM
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Dude, (one and only) you should go check your bank balance. Then write a check to your Mom for that amount.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:16 | 4527040 canstacker
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Men vs women, Ford vs Chevy, whatever sports team against whatever sports team , Dems vs GOP, gay vs straight, white vs black vs brown vs yellow, Christian vs Muslim vs Jew . As long as we are divided and arguing like a bunch of fucking sheep, someone can control every aspect of our lives.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 03:45 | 4527093 praps
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Women are economically second class citizens due to the fact that men pretty much own everything (land).


If there was a proper tax on the benefits of owning land women would become economically equal with men in short time.



Sun, 03/09/2014 - 07:12 | 4527194 minosgal
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'If females are equal than why in sports don't women compete with men? ...

Men and women are fundamentally different in just about every way. Men are built stronger ...'


Didn't you just answer your own question there?

It's fitting your list of occupations only includes those requiring muscle, but not critical thinking skills.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:43 | 4527432 hootowl
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How about equal pay for equal productivity per dollar?

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 13:16 | 4527549 rbg81
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We all know that, on average, women are better in professions that involve talking and process vs. results.  Note the phrase "on average".  Yeah, there are some women who kick men's ass in the workplace and/or make great leaders.  There are also some men who are irresponsible losers and far worse then women.  But they are the exceptions, not the rule.  One the postive side, women tend to show up on time and do their assigned job faithfully, but it pretty much ends there.  Where I work, the women are all about emotion, talk, and appearances.  They are also the first ones to abandon tried and true standards when it gets hard or someone feelings are hurt.  They also tend to feel sorry for the men who are abject failures; conversely, they shit on those who go to extraordinary lengths to make the organization succeed--and that includes the ones they turn to for help over and over again.  Sometimes it bad enough to make one want to quit and leave them to their devices--kind of like Atlas shrugging.  One last thing: Sisterhood is an illusion.  The worst enemy of women is often other women.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 14:43 | 4528036 Rafferty
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Men and women are fundamentally different in just about every way.




Expect a visit from your local branch of the Thought Police.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:38 | 4526550 Kreditanstalt
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Well, if the damn governments weren't manipulating everything from prices to wages to rates to 'values' to indices maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:28 | 4526654 zen0
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That is true, but it would just be a different kind of mess.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:45 | 4526570 The Shootist
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And then the chart of young, white men...

Dats racisss

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:45 | 4526572 g'kar
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Go back to only property owners being able to vote. White, black, brown, red, yellow, male, female, trans, doesn't matter, it's the skin in the game not the skin.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:52 | 4526706 Bonapartist
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I have always thought this was a good idea but then pondered- "what are the parameters"? Is it owning a house w/ no mortgage? If someone shells out $5k for a Dee-troit crack house does that count? Can a farmer sell someone a 1 sq ft piece of land for $100 and you are now a property owner? Etc.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:41 | 4526819 g'kar
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Good questions. Back in what, 1789, only about 6 percent of the population was "eligible" to vote, so I guess "property owners" were well monied.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:31 | 4526913 Bonapartist
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Of course no one really "owns" property as long as the cocksuckers in the govt demand their pound of property tax flesh

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:53 | 4526946 g'kar
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True enough. Rent to the King.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:00 | 4527023 WOAR
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You only owned land if you improved upon it in the old days. Hence, the stories of Johnny Appleseed, the real life guy that threw apple seeds into everyone's yards.

BTW, most apples taste terrible, and are only good for cider. The only reason we have good tasting apples is because the growers found a good tasting tree, and they cut off it's limbs and graft them to other trees.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 12:43 | 4527698 dizzyfingers
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WOAR: In the early days the biggest "industry" was making and selling booze. Wild apples distilled provided income. Johnny planted lots of trees here-there-everywhere in order to further production of lots of saleable product. You can look it up.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 03:54 | 4527098 praps
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Where did the property owners get their property from.  It wasn't created by mankind (they might jhave improved it a bit) Land doesn't belong to anyone, it belongs to the community.   Property owners have basically stolen it from the community.  In the case of the US, property owners have basically stolen it from the indiginous community.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:45 | 4527436 homiegot
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We are are the indigenous community of the world. I think having property rights is great.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:48 | 4526577 Racer
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No one wants to jump off a cliff

Why can't the imbeciles in government see reality?]

Rhetoric... yeah okay

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 14:36 | 4528016 Dead Man Walking
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they can see it. They just dont want you to see it.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:53 | 4526585 Itchy and Scratchy
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Relax. Everything is just the way it should be. The Kenyan said 'nobody built anything anyway'.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 21:59 | 4526598 Itchy and Scratchy
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I can't wait for the Fed to double QE to $170b per month. Then nobody will have to work! Woohoo! Why did we think of this sooner?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:02 | 4526606 g'kar
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Make you wonder why we have to pay taxes. Why don't they just print what they need and disband the IRS.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:29 | 4526650 canstacker
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It's not our money they need, they already have it all, it's our labor. They need us in the yoke, and they need us to pay them for that yoke, they need us to be in debt. It is their lifeblood.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:58 | 4526716 Atomizer
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They want robots to avoid legacy cost. Robots can't purchase manufactured goods to aid in GDP growth

Ministry - Faith Collapsing











"there have been spontaneous demonstrations of Party workers voicing their gratitude and joy"

"there have been spontaneous demonstrations of Party workers"


Faith collapsing

Faith collapsing


"yeah, you, come here

(what's the meaning of this?)

See'mon, come here

(what's the meaning of this?)

Look. what was I talking about?

I told you about it just the other day, didn't I, didn't I?

Why can't you do what you're told?

Why can't you do what you're told, eh?

Why can't you?

Look at it.

Look. did I tell you

Haven't you got a head?"





Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:43 | 4527057 HisNameIsRP
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Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:24 | 4526900 W74
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Bad Goyim!  No thinky allowed!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:57 | 4526854 RaceToTheBottom
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That is the central point why the FED type Central Banksters know they are sacrificing the 99% to save the banks and the Banksters.

If the printing had no pain or downside they would save a bunch of money removing taxes and print more. 

Since they don't, they know that printing will have huge downside.  So they print to save the Banksters and await the fall for the 99% and their kids to pick up the mess.

Banksters are not worth the O2 they use.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:45 | 4526932 I Write Code
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I think tradition, mostly.

And the millions of accountants, tax preparers, lawyers, IRS agents, lobbyists, and telephone sanitizers it would disemploy.

Since the beginning of the Obamanation we have either borrowed or printed about half the federal budget anyway. Give it time.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:40 | 4527426 homiegot
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To make it seem legit.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:45 | 4526690 Reaper
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Two parasites feed symbiotically. The bottom feeders who receive their benefits are fed by our noble compassionate takers in government, who take their cut before passing a depleted amount down. The government parasites feed themselves better, than they pass to the bottom feeders.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:09 | 4526965 e_goldstein
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You're forgetting the upper class who only exist because of .gov handouts. Best example is Jamie Dimon, King of the Welfare Queens; and yes, that's why he's richer than youse.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:48 | 4526698 akatako13
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its not demise of a dream, its a beginning of new one. women work, men stay home:

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 22:58 | 4526719 tony bonn
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yes, but if these men worked, then the 1% would have to give up something - a case of bollinger, a cheaper louis vuitton, one less lamborghini, to make payroll.....puuuhleeeeze!

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:50 | 4527066 Kelley
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You might need a lesson in economics.

The rich person will hire you if your contribution/effort makes him even richer. 

He won't hire you if you cost him money.

So the secret to working is to provide greater value than what you are paid.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:04 | 4526731 hoist the bs flag
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here...let Killing Joke explain it to you:


Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:18 | 4526761 ebworthen
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When a nation doesn't need it's Men it is in terminal decline.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 23:32 | 4526795 franciscopendergrass
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The male labor participation rate is inversely proportional to the growth of the federal budget.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:33 | 4526915 ClassicalLib17
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On a brighter note,  I live in Illinois and have tried to apply for our new conceal/carry license since the first week in January.  I couldn't get past the java verification portion for the last two months.  Yesterday I ran system recovery and started from the beginning.  Today,  I completed the process in 20 minutes.  And since I only use my computer for reading,  I didn't lose much in the recovery process.  Happy day

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:12 | 4526971 semperfi
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No conceal carry permit/license required in Arizona.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 12:21 | 4527639 dizzyfingers
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Semperfi: Can't live w/o potable water.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:32 | 4527406 hootowl
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..........And the off-shoring of manufacturing.............and the growth of "Free Trade".........Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!  Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!............... and intentional. 

...........And, If you don't believe that this result was planned, anticipated, and intentional, you are part of the problem.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:31 | 4526911 Dr. Destructo
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So which do I need to go bullish on: H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine", or George Orwell's "1984"?

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:27 | 4527400 hootowl
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Try "Apocalypse Now, American Style".

Black mobs on steroids.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 00:47 | 4526935 Bogdog
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Chartporny doom. Where's the tipping point into oblivion? This is what keeps me awake at night. And just after that tipping point, what does it look like? How does it impact me and my short stack of benjamins? 

The town I live in has a HUGE population of EBT'ers. When those cards no longer function this place will go instantly medieval. Roving bands of well armed, hungry people. Banditry in the 'burbs. Just what you want to see come down your street. No place to hide. No cops in sight. They'll be....who knows where they'll be. They just won't be on your street at the time needed or ever. 

I don't see a happy ending or a reversal in the trends. 

Could the only saving grace be......

China implodes in their debt bubble. Devolves into civil war. Flight to the dollar! Manufacturing returns to Amerika due to complete chaos at China, Inc.

Or does that just enable us for worse behavior? Does the contagion take us down too?


Sun, 03/09/2014 - 01:10 | 4526967 semperfi
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ever thought why China is accumulating so much gold?  

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:42 | 4527056 cornflakesdisease
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The same reason the saudi's buy it.  It's like interest on Treasuries.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 13:49 | 4527905 kurt
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Just to the north of me, in San Diego, there are many new community developements that are a mote away from castles. Even the rich know and they are consolidating into these gated communities. Although more defensible looking, they're going down with the rest of us. Wouldn't it be better to get the petroleum monopoly to return gasoline to the $2.40 range as it was before they started our recession?

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 02:06 | 4527032 Curiously_Crazy
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I must be missing something. But why does someone who isn't working (or at least reporting 0 income) that should therefore be able to stay home to look after their kids ged childcare?

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 05:29 | 4527150 22winmag
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The EBT crowd was at WalMart early on Monday the 3rd.


They were buying up the grocieries and flat screen TVs, and paying no attention to the ammo counter.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 07:24 | 4527201 deerhunter
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walmart ammo prices rock if you can find any.  Timing is the key I have found.  The Russky Tulammo is cheap but dirty to shoot.  It does however afford practice.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:05 | 4527327 SmallerGovNow2
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Bass pro not bad either and have everything in stock.  Including all reload supplies....

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 10:30 | 4527405 Heroic Couplet
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Republicans can't say tax cuts create US jobs. The 1% isn't enough to get them elected.

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 12:31 | 4527670 Rising Sun
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fuck your political party garbage - goobermint is way too fucking fat regardless of party

Sun, 03/09/2014 - 20:39 | 4528980 whidbey-2
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This paradox of modern policy and earnings is confusing to you and others.  It is founded on the premise that unemployed people will prefer to have no credit rating and very little consumption beyond allowed neccesities as distinguished from more luxury.  MORE deluxe  is always the mantra of the American modern consumer.  Little has changed, Americans always want MORE exclusive goods, except this time they are worried about who will pay for the party,and what does it mean when there are more dollars than dirt?  Are dollars worth more than dirt?  Wait and see in Chapter 16  in The story of One Man's Times and Tastes.  Book one, Chapter 15.

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