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Warning Shots Fired At OSCE Mission In Crimea; Russia Warns Of Treaty Force Majeure Over "Unfriendly NATO Threats"

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Perhaps it is time to finally admit that anyone who thought Putin's Tuesday press conference, which the market so jubilantly assumed was a case of "blinking" and de-escalating tensions with the west, was wrong. If there is still any confusion, following yesterday's news that Gazprom officially threatened Ukraine with cutting off its gas supplies, as well as the storming of a Ukraine base by Russian troops - luckily with no shots fired so far - then today's developments should any remaining doubts. Moments ago AP reported that as the latest, third in a row, group of OSCE inspectors tried to enter Ukraine, they were not only barred from doing so, but warnings shots were fired to emphasize the point by pro-Russian forces.

From AP:

An Associated Press reporter says pro-Russian forces refused to let a foreign military mission enter Crimea on Saturday.

 

After the officers had stopped, the armed men fired warning bursts of automatic weapons fire into the air to make other unidentified vehicles halt. No injuries were reported.

 

The multinational group of military officers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe was attempting to enter the embattled peninsula from the north. The armed men told them they had no authorization to enter Crimea.

 

The OSCE mission will likely return to the Ukrainian city of Kherson where it had spent the night, the AP reporter said.

 

Russia and Ukraine are locked in a tense standoff over Crimea.

the OSCE tweeted:

Bloomberg adds:

OSCE tried to enter Crimea for third day, warning shots were fired as it attempted to do so today, Tatyana Baeva, OSCE spokeswoman, said by phone from Vienna.

 

Nobody injured in incident, OSCE mission is now back in Kherson, southern Ukraine.

 

OSCE 29 member states that provided people for Crimea mission may meet today or tomorrow in Vienna to discuss further action: Baeva

Then there was this overnight escalation as reported by Ukraine's TV5 station (of questionably credibility), via Bloomberg:

Pro-Russian armed men today captured building in Simferopol, capital city of Crimea, TV5 private news channel reports, citing Vladislav Selezniov, spokesman for Ukraine’s defense minister in Crimea.

 

Russian soldiers seized Ukraine’s state border guard division in Shcholkino near Kerch Strait, Ukraine’s border service says in statement on its website

 

Russian soldiers stormed Shcholkino unit last night, seized weapons storage, beat Ukrainian border guards, took away their mobile phones and forced them and their families to leave

 

Currently, 11 border guard units are being blocked: Ukraine border service says in separate statement

 

Ukraine denied entrance to 513 “extremists” from Russia during last 24 hrs, state border guard service says in another separate statement on its website

Remember, all it takes is for one stray bullet to hit a human target, on either side of the conflict, for the market to grasp just how wrong its assessment of de-escalation has been.

Elsewhere, while inspectors were trying to make their way into Ukraine - unsuccessfully - Russia announced it was considering a further freeze of U.S. military inspections under arms control treaties in retaliation to Washington's decision to halt military cooperation with Russia, news reports said Saturday.

Interfax blasted earlier:

  • UNJUSTIFIED U.S., NATO THREATS SEEN AS UNFRIENDLY GESTURE, ALLOW TO DECLARE FORCE-MAJEURE - RUSSIAN DEFENSE SOURCE
  • RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY CONSIDERING SUSPENSION OF RECEIVING INSPECTION GROUPS UNDER START TREATY, VIENNA DOCUMENT 2011 - SOURCE

AP has more:

Russian news agencies carried a statement by an unidentified Defense Ministry official saying that Moscow sees the U.S. move as a reason to suspend U.S. inspections in Russia in line with the 2010 New START treaty on cutting U.S. and Russian nuclear arsenals and the 2011 Vienna agreement that envisages mutual inspections of Russian and NATO military facilities as part of confidence-building measures.

A Defense Ministry spokesman wouldn't comment on the reports, which are a usual way in Russia to carry unofficial government signals.

The U.S. and the European Union have introduced sanctions over Russia in response to its move to send troops that have taken control of Ukraine's Black Sea peninsula of Crimea.

So if the START treaty is suspended how long until its anti-proliferation clauses are scrapped completely once more, and the Cold War arms race returns once again.

Also while escalations such as these threaten to transform the new Cold War into a Hot one, the clock is ticking, and in favor of Russia, because the longer Ukraine remains without western aid, the quicker its foreign reserves will run out, and the faster the country will become a vassal state of Gazpromia. Add the ticking countdown to the March 16 Crimean referendum, which the west and Ukraine have both declared illegitimate yet have no power to stop, and suddenly one can see how Putin once again outsmarted everything the west had to throw at it. WSJ explains:

Gazprom's demand raises the prospect that some of the aid Western powers have guaranteed could end up flowing into Moscow's coffers to pay Ukraine's gas bill. Virtually all of the country's natural-gas imports come from Russia. Late last year it was granted a discount that Moscow has threatened to rescind since the fall of Mr. Yanukovych.

 

"This now becomes an EU/U.S. problem: Who is going to lend Ukraine the money to pay the gas bill? If so, what will be the conditions?" said Jonathan Stern, an analyst at the Oxford Energy Institute.

 

A spokesman for Gazprom said that the threatened cutoff wouldn't affect supplies to Europe, which gets about a third of its gas from Russia, much of it via pipelines that run through Ukraine.

 

 

In 2009, after the Russian energy giant switched off the supply to Ukraine, Ukrainian authorities began using the supply transiting their territory that Gazprom said was destined for customers in Europe. Gazprom then cut off the flow altogether, causing shortages and price increases for end customers.

 

"The EU, U.S. and IMF have just about three weeks to resolve this," Mr. Stern said.

At which point it's game, set match Putin once more.

Finally, what certainly helped Putin is that, as expected, China took the side of Russia, not of the "free world", in what is now a very distinct and clear axis of power the New Normal dipolar world.

 

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Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:24 | 4524738 Looney
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...Gazprom then cut off the flow altogether, causing shortages and price increases for end customers.

This is still about the gas pipelines. The Qatari gas was supposed to go through Syria, Turkey, the Black Sea, CRIMEA, through Ukraine into Europe. I think Putin knew that we would not abandon our attempts to take Syria, so by pulling Crimea out of the equation he effectively puts the end to any future EU/US plans to build the Qatari pipeline through Syria. I think?  ;-)

Looney

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:28 | 4524749 AlaricBalth
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Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:56 | 4524810 ThirdWorldDude
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Qatari pipelines can be rerouted to Bulgaria and Romania, then continue up north to Central Europe and beyond. 

Yes, a large chunk of what's going on in Ukraine is because of oil and natgas, though the lion share of it has geopolitical significance as "predicted" in Zbig's The Grand Chessboard.

Why now? Two (not mutually exclusive) reasons:

- Russia's rise from the ashes under Putin-Medvedev in the last 15 years is a direct threat to The Empire.

- Central Bankers need distraction from the "succesful recovery". What better way to polarize the masses than good old-fashioned nationalism that under CB's lead inevitably takes us toa war?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:03 | 4524829 SWRichmond
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Elsewhere, while inspectors were trying to make their way into Ukraine - unsuccessfully - Russia announced it was considering a further freeze of U.S. military inspections under arms control treaties in retaliation to Washington's decision to halt military cooperation with Russia, news reports said Saturday.

If true, they would not do this unilaterally (without "backing") IMO.  This is getting larger.  Putin not backing down.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:34 | 4524898 AlaricBalth
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And if you consider Russian Minister Lavrov's comments concerning sanctions against Russia will have a boomerang effect, the magnitude of the situation will become clearer under closer consideration of what he meant.

Exxon, BP, Royal Dutch Shell etc, all have interests and major investments in the region. It has been reported that BP lost $800 million practically overnight due to the Ukrainian crisis.

Exxon would be greatly impacted by a Russian in kind response to US sanction.
From Exxon's 2012 annual report:

ExxonMobil and Rosneft of Russia signed a Strategic Cooperation Agreement in 2011 to jointly participate in exploration and development activities in Russia, the United States and other parts of the world. In 2012 ExxonMobil and Rosneft signed a Pilot Development Agreement to evaluate the development of tight-oil reserves in western Siberia and signed an agreement to establish a joint Arctic Research Center.

And from Pipeline and Gas Journal:

The companies will set up a joint venture to run a pilot program and potential commercial production with equity interests of 51% for Rosneft and 49% for ExxonMobil. Work will be carried out at Rosneft’s 23 license blocks covering a total area more than 10,000 square kilometers.

http://www.pipelineandgasjournal.com/rosneft-exxonmobil-agreement-wester...

Billions are at stake and the lines are quite blurred. This isn't about geo-political posturing, its the economics of energy resouces.

To quote from the film Network, "The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business."

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zI5hrcwU7Dk
Excellent scene in case you haven't seen it.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:04 | 4524962 BaBaBouy
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It's The Ole ""MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX"" Stupids... (Germany Included!)

""Mr. Putin, who has lamented the end of the Soviet empire, is using Russia’s energy riches to buy military technology overseas such as communications networks and drones. Germany, its eastern half once ruled by Stalinist countrymen, built for Russia a sophisticated training center for infantry units that can simulate an array of war scenarios, such as invading a neighbor.""

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/6/putin-has-transformed-rus... Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:11 | 4524972 derek_vineyard
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the stock market has gone so parabolic that rooting for war is not out of the qwuestion

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:32 | 4525017 The Big Ching-aso
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If Russia freezes Smirnoff Vodka exports what the hell am I gonna use for serving shitty cheap mimosas to my hungover guests?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:37 | 4525020 layman_please
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pipelines? what about nat gas itself?

"Ukraine sits on 39 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves. That's about one-quarter the world's entire proven reserves. One company that has bet big on Ukraine's natural gas is US-based Chevron."

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/talking-numbers/this-oil-giant-could-get-crush-by-ukraine-200317976.html

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:19 | 4525258 TerminalDebt
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Elsewhere:

Alberta has voted to separate from Canada and join the USA because all their oil is used in the US anyway.

US army has moved in to protect them and Canada and Russia have called the move illegal.

 

Also:

Quebec has voted to separate from Canada and nobody cares.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 15:00 | 4525367 Headbanger
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And don't forget California will vote to become six states, Colorado will vote to become two states and Marta's Vineyard has joined Palau.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:29 | 4525289 Headbanger
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This whole mess in the Ukraine and Syria is not about the "New Normal" you idiots!

It's all about getting back to the "Old Normal" so Russia and China will once again be cut off from the free world economies so their cheap labor and cheap resources stop devaluing Western labor and products!

It was the fall of the Soviet Union and the stupid failed mistake of helping China become a more modern nation that's been ruining US and European economies for over 20 years now.

The book "Blood in the Streets" predicted all this would happen in 1990.  So Western nations are now trying to politically and economically isolate Russia and China again.

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 15:16 | 4525383 layman_please
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wtf is 'free world economies

and

'... that's been ruining US and European economies for over 20 years now.' ???

so it's the 'communists' again? give me a break! look no further from US and EU if you want to find the real culprits who fucked you over to maximize their profits by exploiting eastern slave labor.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:47 | 4525178 eurogold
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Smirnoff Vodka for sale in the EU is distilled in Italy. Total crap ! Russia should end this quickly by shutting off the Gas supply to the Ukraine.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:17 | 4525253 GoinFawr
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A 'mimosa' without fizz is called a 'screwdriver'. But either are an important part of any Breakfast of Champions.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 18:54 | 4525920 The Big Ching-aso
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Shhhhhh don't tell them. I pour in some Walmart club soda and they think they're still drinking last nite's champagne.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 20:35 | 4526326 SilverRhino
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McCormick's   I keep a bottle of that in the back of the cabinet for guests that irritate me but not enough to get thrown out. 

Instant hangover gurantee.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4524916 USisCorrupt
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Why would Putin back down? He has all of them by the balls. China just started defaulting on the Corporate Bonds this last week, between China and Russia they are willing to crash the West Banking system for all it does now is to SUCK resources in exchange of electronic digits and paper and has NO BENEFIT to anyone, not even the slaves anymore. The world had woken UP!

 

BTW... I like the FACT that both China and now Russia has turned Positive on BitCoin once again. I am not saying that it is an immediate buy for those 118 Million sent to the exchange the other day has some worried on another push down, BUT I sure do like BitCoin in the long term vs the Dollar. Just buy 1 or 2, in the current forex market BitCoin is like a Grain of sand on a beach miles long. And its life expectancy is looking much better by the day.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:07 | 4525058 chemystical
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"BUT I sure do like BitCoin in the long term vs the Dollar. Just buy 1 or 2."

I agree that the epitaph of the USD and other fiat is already written, but I see 2* problems with your statement:

1) the timing of their demise is still far from certain, and

2) when that demise occurs, how many people will say to their employers, "Ok, pay me in Btc!", and how many merchants will say the same?  That transition is not going to happen cleanly and painlessly, and a scenario that has Btc absolutely emerging on top is an unfounded one.

Btc has nothing going for it other than network, and it must be stated again and again, that it's a network of other people's assets, and those people can walk away at any time and switch to whatthefuckcoin at for all practical purposes zero cost.  When the coroners do pronounce fiat to be dead, it's going to be a rough transition for all, and Btc might suddenly look like just another pretty face amongst thousands of cc. 

Btc's value relative to those other pretty faces will level off, and in fact it already has if you care to look at how the other cc's trading ratios versus Btc has changed in the last 6 months.  There are just too many "me too's" out there (and infinitely more potentially), and some have technical advantages over Btc,  As the markets become more savy as to what constitutes value in that environments, those markets will tune in clearly to the other cc's sales pitch of "Why not me?" 

Meanwhile other potential currencies (backed by something other than kW and cards) will clamor for attention too, and in the tumultuous transition from fiat to ???, the hoi polloi will by their natures turn to the known quantities with which they've been familiar for all of their lives.  It the transition occurs in the next 10 years I wouldn't depend on cc emerging from that battle. 

So why not diversift into ltc, nmc, nvc, ppc, etc....kinda like diversifying into pets.com, webvan, kozmo.com, flooz.com, etoys.com, boo.com, mvp.com, go.com, kibu.com, whatthefuck.com?  Oh, wait.

* well, in truth there are far more than 2 problems with it.  The first glaring one is the "just buy 1 or 2 statment".  Why 1?  Why 2?  That's no small difference when you're talking from a diversification perspective.  What it sounds like is mindless lemming speculation.  Provide a basis for your position, and I might change my mind.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:36 | 4525307 Optimusprime
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Right.   And now India has come down basically on the Russian side--huge development.  The governments of nearly half of mankind are not with the Ziocons.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:05 | 4524830 Abi Normal
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"...as well as the storming of a Ukraine base by Russian troops - luckily with no shots fired so far - then today's developments should any remaining doubts..."

developments should ?????? any doubts...what is this, fill in the blanks day?  allay any doubts, remove any doubts...oh well, hate to even be associated with the grammar police, just call me Capt Obvious.

As to the situation, it is now warm, soon to turn hot, then all bets are off...bitchezzz!  We all know a false flag has been planted already, in Crimea, just a matter of time...tick tock...tick tock...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4524919 Caviar Emptor
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Please add this motive: the defense-industrial complex and war profiteers desperately need a reason to become important and rich again. US defense cuts are threatening to reduce the army to pre-WW2 levels

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:06 | 4524966 Groundhog Day
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Is that show Future Weapons still on the air

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:19 | 4525112 chemystical
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Whilst I agree with your sentiment, in all fairness you must assess Chuck Hegel's statements in their full contexts. 

Cuts to defense spending on hardware is not what he talked about.  He's talking mostly about cutting the number of flesh and blood soldiers. 

The MIC doesn't manufacture humans, and the amount that some companies earn from outfitting and feeding and housing them is a pittance compared to the hardware outlays.  The real MIC - the hardware division - will still be drenched in debt slave cash.

The Def Dept employs something on the order of 40,000 lawyers.  They are there to write and negotiate and renegotiate and litigate contracts with the hardware industry.  They are not there to fret about the boys and girls or the VA.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:04 | 4524961 Groundhog Day
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Can't we just get back to who the ugly Kardashians are screwing and that out of control miley cyrus or beiber or...... 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 16:40 | 4525518 StychoKiller
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Betcha you'd just luuv to be in "Pleasantville" right about now!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:22 | 4524985 Wahooo
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It would be so much easier to back the US in this if we hadn't completely lost our moral stature, in fact are now underwater. So it's become a case of TPTB v. TPTB, and who the hell cares if they all die.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 17:32 | 4525021 Lumberjack
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You might also want to re-visit the Trans Caspian Pipeline too. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Caspian_Gas_Pipeline

 

That will prove very interesting. Having followed things very closely over the last 15 years regarding renewable energy and the frauds/more serious side of things, I would want to bring this to your attention as well. It seems that certain entities have recieved hundreds of millions in EXPEDITED stimulus and other funds and one in particular, runs more shell and shelf LLC's etc. and has a network so vast and yet by design intentionally obfuscates what really is going on. Here is a summary that I used elsewhere originating from a State Governmental ageny in Maine that now has been eliminated that showed that CEO's profile. The main group, UPC Group/Management (First Wind/IVPC/UPC/Evergreen et.al.), has been basically banned in Russia and has other operations in hot zones worldwide including Xinjiang province in China which borders, (drum roll please), Russia. There is so much more but that will be it for now.  

 

Here is First Wind CEO resume: (Note Trans Caspian Pipeline).

The First Wind Executive Team

Paul J. Gaynor

President,
Chief Executive Officer

Executive Summary

Paul J. Gaynor is responsible for the strategic direction and day-to-day management of First Wind projects in North America.

Career Highlights

Mr. Gaynor has more than 20 years of experience in the energy field, encompassing leadership and finance roles in the energy, power, and pipeline sectors. In addition, he has been engaged in several landmark energy and power financings across the globe.

Mr. Gaynor was formerly Chief Financial Officer of Noble Power Assets, LLC, a private equity-backed power acquisition company. Prior to that, he was the Senior Vice President and Chief Development Officer of Singapore Power Group (SP) and Chief Operating Officer of SP International (SPI).

Mr. Gaynor led a comprehensive restructuring of SP and oversaw project development and asset management at SPI. He joined SP as Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, where he was responsible for all financial matters, including leading the initial public offering and introducing world-class finance practices into the organization.

From 1998 to 2000, Mr. Gaynor was the Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of PSG International, a pipeline development company owned by GE Capital and Bechtel Enterprises. PSG developed, financed, built, owned, and operated gas, oil, and water pipeline systems across the globe. Mr. Gaynor assisted in the establishment of the company and oversaw financial matters. He was also responsible for acquiring a 32.5% interest in a natural gas system in Mexico and subsequently sat on the board of directors. In addition, he led the fundraising process for the $3 billion TransCaspian Gas Pipeline project in Central Asia.

Before PSG, Mr. Gaynor was Vice President and Manager of Asia Pacific operations for GE Capital’s Structured Finance Group (SFG). He was responsible for deal analysis, execution, and internal approvals, leading a team that evaluated over 20 power projects between 1994 and 1998. Mr. Gaynor also led the Group’s $400 million investment in Paiton Energy and Quezon Power, and he received internal approval for over $1 billion of projects. He also worked at GE Capital SFG in the U.S. before moving to Asia, and he sold power plants for GE Power Systems prior to attending business school. -------

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Here is the link that no longer works but I can assure you hardcopy etc. is out there. He also worked for...Enron in London...


http://www.maine.gov/doc/lupc/projects/windpower/firstwind/champlain_bowers/Development/Application/Exhibit_3.pdf

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:38 | 4525026 Crash Overide
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I don't think anyone knows what's going on in Ukraine, remember we are the useless eaters and the elite's are always playing different games.

I don't believe anything anymore.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:08 | 4524842 Abi Normal
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All to familiar and true, Alaric! Alarming as hell, prepared?  I hope I am, for the carnage that follows those dogs, Havoc indeed.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:55 | 4524937 Groundhog Day
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Finally, what certainly helped Putin is that, as expected, China took the side of Russia, not of the "free world", in what is now a very distinct and clear axis of power the New Normal dipolar world.

 

So i'm between a rock and a hard place?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:16 | 4524984 Abi Normal
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sum ting wong?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:25 | 4525006 logicalman
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Tripolar......

Oceania - ‎Eurasia - ‎Eastasia sound familiar?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:28 | 4524750 Itchy and Scratchy
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Correct. Well done.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:41 | 4524771 EhKnowKneeMass
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Much Rspect!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:58 | 4525064 layman_please
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Around 80% of russian natural gas exported to EU passes through ukraine

gateway to europe

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:54 | 4525207 eurogold
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Pipelines are the only leverage the Ukraine has. They deserve everything they are getting now from Russia for extorting Russia for years.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:49 | 4524782 Bendromeda Strain
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Nice. I like how Armstrong capitalized NEVER as to when Yanukovich would be leaving office. Mulligan, anyone? Paul Craig Roberts is the one to be following on this latest installment of As The World Turns.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:22 | 4524856 Abi Normal
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haha, very too good critique Bendro...Roberts has some sense about him.  I am, although, quite aware that $$$ is the root of this evil thing, but I find it quite necessary to carry on with daily transactions.  

They cut the gas, spring comes and crisis reduced, maybe...then again, what do I know?  It's a false flag op anyway you look at it.  The world is teetering financially and tptb needs them a war, broken windows, spilt treasure, and the like, capice?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:38 | 4524902 Berspankme
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gas is not just for heating- try electric grid

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:43 | 4524912 Abi Normal
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correct on the grid, and in industrial endeavors, that is why I said 'reduced' not 'solved'...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:49 | 4524792 Itchy and Scratchy
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Good job.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:56 | 4524807 Landrew
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Is it a  coincidence the Ukraine banking system went empty before the coup? 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:04 | 4524826 Bindar Dundat
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Let's get ready to Ruuummmble!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:17 | 4524861 mrdenis
Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:38 | 4525156 frenzic
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from Hollywood, the feel good band of the '90's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uXdIp4jcms

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:26 | 4525008 Wahooo
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True in part, but there's the very real notion of Russia maintaining its historic defense buffers which to leadership is even more important than nat gas. Putin said as much last year, chastised the west for not acknowledging that his country has been invaded twice from Europe and suffered incredible losses - and damned if he were going to allow western encroachment again. Would be like China setting up forces in Mexico.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 18:00 | 4525750 August
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...his country has been invaded twice from Europe

Twice in the last hundred years. The total invasion-from-the-West count is somewhere around six.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 15:52 | 4525459 WMM II
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from: The "Ukraine Situation" Explained In One Map

"As Martin Armstrong warned this morning:

Yanukovych is a dictator who will NEVER leave office. It is simple as that. There will be no REAL elections again in Ukraine."

hmmmm....

putin knew that guy was a jerk:

"The ordinary Ukrainian citizen, the ordinary guy suffered during the rule of Nicholas II, during the reign of Kuchma, and Yushchenko, and Yanukovych. Nothing or almost nothing has changed for the better. Corruption has reached dimensions that are unheard of here in Russia. Accumulation of wealth and social stratification—problems that are also acute in this country—are much worse in Ukraine, radically worse…I understand those people on Maidan, though I do not support this kind of turnover. I understand the people on Maidan who are calling for radical change rather than some cosmetic remodelling of power. Why are they demanding this? Because they have grown used to seeing one set of thieves being replaced by another." 

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2014/03/putin-press-co...

 

as for those who are of interest in what will actually occur:

"At the same time he suggested that Ukraine hold a referendum to adopt a new constitution, presumably addressing the status of Crimea and other regions with large Russian populations, and then hold elections for a new president and Parliament."

'http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2014/03/putin-press-co...'

 

another 'Martin Armstrong: Obama "Using Same Nonsense As Putin''

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-07/martin-armstrong-obama-using-sa...

to which i responded:

agreed.

but that is the proof in the pudding. both sides know they are recognized as both talking nonsense. a negotiated two state solution is the only way out.

one state ukraine. one state crimea. one country ukraine. ok call it new ukraine.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-07/martin-armstrong-obama-using-sa...

 

as for the rest of the story....

well, you can find out how i see the future as easy as i can tell it again.

:)

wmm

 

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:39 | 4524770 Winston Churchill
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It might have been.Now its about the survival of the petro dollar.

The US is choosing this time for the inevitable confontation, instead of allowing

the BRICS to choose their moment.

I have prolly have more personal experience of billionaire oligarchs than other poster

on ZH.They hate each other.Even many social occaissions, like weddings,bar mitzvahs etc)

end up in verbal confrontations, and on several times punches thrown.Anybody thinking they

working together needs therapy.This is dog eat dog.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:48 | 4524789 Spastica Rex
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I have prolly have more personal experience of billionaire oligarchs than other poster on ZH.

But as a former Prime Minister of the UK, you write in a very idiosyncratic version of the Queen's English.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:53 | 4524857 y3maxx
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Will CIA blow up northern ukraine pipelines owned by gazprom?
Can You say "False Flag/Prince Archduke/Black Swan" moment?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:00 | 4524952 silvermail
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If the CIA wants to do shit for Europe, then of course they will blow up gas pipelines to Europe. Why not?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:00 | 4524953 Groundhog Day
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SSHHH...stop giving away the movie's ending.....some of us are still eating our popcorn and enjoying this drama film

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:34 | 4525019 macbone
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One can only hope so.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:28 | 4525010 Winston Churchill
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I can revert back to my very expensive Public school accent,but . Cocksuckers sounds a little

wierd in that though.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:24 | 4525274 GoinFawr
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...are you typing with a cigar between your fingers, or are you just glad to see me?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:56 | 4524811 BigJim
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They might fight over who gets the finest slice of schnitzel. I doubt they disagree about helping to maintain the petrodollar.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:46 | 4525037 Kirk2NCC1701
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The minute the threat is External, the internal competition and fights stop, and all wagons are circled and guns pointed outwards.
Let's have NO illusions about that.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:19 | 4524867 Abi Normal
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Dog eat dog is correct, no matter how you must look at the situation!  Crisis is slowly spinning out of control, then it will be Release the Kraken...if and when the reserve status is lost, bank holiday, etc...need I say more, 50% haircut for everyone, ROFLMAO!!!  

That would just be the beginning, time to mount your Chinese Nose Guards, they may just come in handy, in the not so distant future!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:48 | 4524783 Zadig
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I thought the Middle East gas would transit to Europe through Turkey -> Balkans, not Crimea. 

This crisis seems more about imperialism and breaking the economic ties between Russia & Europe than hydrocarbons.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:01 | 4524825 Looney
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The shortest pipeline would've been between Sinop (Turkey) and Yalta (Crimea). A Balkan pipeline to Bulgaria or Romania would be twice as long and a FEW MORE YEARS to build. Europe and, most importantly Germany, want and need a non-Russian gas ASAP.

Looney

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:09 | 4524844 magpie
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Germany does not "want" anything by itself, it is ordered around...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:20 | 4524998 ThirdWorldDude
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Precisely magpie. I intended to ask Looney why Germany needs another fuel supplier and your comment answers my question.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 19:32 | 4526070 trader1
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http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42405.pdf

Germany relies on Russia for less than 9% of its primary energy needs, and less than 40% for NG (as a source).  

 

Notes: For primary energy, which is the base source of energy used to produce electricity and perform other work, Russian natural gas does not comprise greater than 50% for any EU country.

 

and russia's NG will be less and less needed as these start to get mass produced and installed across households and small businesses.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 16:48 | 4525528 logicalman
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Almost EVERYTHING the US does is about energy, in one way or another.

I guess you hadn't noticed.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:34 | 4524897 Berspankme
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"organization for security and cooperation"- What a limp wristed faggoty name, sure this puts real fear into Russia

 

Fuck the EU

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:41 | 4524907 Bangin7GramRocks
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And yet another day has passed when more Americans were gunned down in the streets than died in this scary "war". Take your geo-political chess bullshit and insert it in your turdcutter.....sans lube!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:19 | 4524995 BandGap
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Looney - Look at map. Then figure where the pipeline through Syria will go. It isn't were you have it going.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH2#Y3A9NDMuMDE2MTAyfi04Ni4xMjY3MDEmbHZsPTQmc3R5PXImcT1TeXJpYQ==

 

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:51 | 4525050 Jack Burton
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Looney, Yes, that plays an important role. I also think Russian nationalism in Crimea is high after 20 years in the failed Ukrainian State. Crimea, the Russians, want to join Russia for security and stability. They know Ukraine is a failed state, I do not blame them. This will go down hard at NATO and the Pentagon where those fellows actually believe they can force and control all people on this earth planet. I suggest that Neocons in America and EU are as insane as A. Hitler.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:03 | 4525080 kchrisc
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Putin says: "CIA, tricks are for Arabs."

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 15:05 | 4525376 Telemakhos
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Gas might be part of this, but the navy bases are more significant.  Where does Russia have year-round, warm-water ports?  Tartus, Syria, and Sebastopol, Autonomous Crimean Region Soon to be Russia.  Existing pipelines are many, and future pipelines can be rerouted in the planning phase, but navy bases outside the frozen north are few and far between and hard to come by for the Russians.

The next step would be Poland/Kaliniingrad/Lithuania, since Kaliningrad is the next west-facing Russian navy port.  The Russians have already held war games in Kaliningrad in the past month, and NATO jacked up the troop levels in response.

The Crimea has always been Russian; it was Ukraine's for a short while in name only.  Putin will not let himself go down in history as the man who lost it or who lost Sebastopol and the Black Sea Naval HQ.  Any solution is going to require Crimea becoming Russian soil (or independent, which is the same thing).  That's okay with the West, because they know that they aren't really losing anything that they didn't realistically stand to gain, and it has the added bonus of pissing off China, who doesn't like giving legitimacy to the idea of ethnically-based "separatism": they have their own Tibetian, Mongolian, Turkistanian, and Taiwanese issues to deal with.

Note that China has just done an abrupt about-face on North Korea, signalling that it's finally ready for denuclearization of the peninsula.  It's couched in the usual bluster of "red lines," but it's a significant policy shift that throws the US a bone while Russia is busy promoting separatism that's detrimental to China.  It's hard not to see a connection in the timing.

But proposed gas pipelines?  Cheaper to divert them than to overthrow regimes.  There are already two undersea proposed for the eastern med, and Cyprus would make an easy hub that would welcome the jobs.  Besides, none of the proposed routes that I've seen run through the Crimea or even Ukraine: most run from Turkey through Greece or Bulgaria.

 

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:28 | 4524748 nelsonmandella
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This is just the begining ! there is no other alternative but war Russia will go Turkey and Baltic 

China will go Japan and South korea and Tiawan

 

USA and EU ?  will tell them off

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:49 | 4524793 trevor15
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Let us pray that this is not the case.  I feel a financial war is more likely, where China and Russia do an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' deal and take down the USD.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:10 | 4524848 Landrew
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Point, starting your thought with "there is no other alternative" dismisses your statement, because there IS ALWAYS an alternative. Rarely is there only one option in any situation. Just when WE think the situation is illogical you find the game is NOT the game YOU are playing. The game in the Ukraine isn't a two player, four, eight player game. There are more games then players. I would imagine the CIA has a game along with the KGB that is completely independent of the U.S. and Russia. This is most likely the next round of existing games, which one anyone's guess? If you enjoy game theory this is an amazing time. Any thoughts?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:13 | 4524854 Landrew
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In fact this could be  Exxon,Boeing or Gazprom outside any government. They all have their need to feed.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:30 | 4525012 EhKnowKneeMass
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Yo! How's Gandhi? Still skinny or has he put on some wait... weight what?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:33 | 4524761 whoknoz
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"..and the Cold War arms race returns once again.."

 

..except that the USofA is will not be entered into this event...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:56 | 4524808 duo
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This is starting to get an August 1914 feel to it.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:27 | 4524880 Abi Normal
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ha, it's that thing that rhymes, oh that's it, history!?  Buckle up!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:57 | 4524945 hootowl
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The Ovomit cabal will capitulate at the starting line.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:37 | 4524767 ZakuKommander
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West and the Kiev Gang will "mastermind" (I use the words tongue-in-cheek, of course) some incident or event of violence in an attempt to derail the Crimean referendum on the 16th.  If the Gang musters sufficient loyal army units, a land attack into the Crimea should not be unexpected.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:30 | 4524888 Abi Normal
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I think it would end in a Ukrainian suicide if they went up against the Russ...eh, unmarked local thu...err, armed men.  I think I read somewhere, there were 60K Russ, err, unmarked armed men in Crimea?  Ukraine would be quite foolish to poke the bear right now.  But it could happen, more stupid things have been done before!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:17 | 4524987 ZakuKommander
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Agreed it would be suicidal, but . . .

The "suicide" aspect would be the point of the exercise to the Gang.  They would not care how many Ukrainian lives were lost if they could obtain headlines about Russians killing Ukrainians on Ukrainian soil.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:38 | 4524768 Truther
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FUCK THE EU... All together now.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:32 | 4524894 Abi Normal
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Ahh the EWE, smelly lot, with bad teeth to boot, bailinners be damned!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:35 | 4525305 GoinFawr
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Oh and the grotty daggy bits hangin off her backside... there isn't enough velcro in the world to keep me on that, even if I had her pushing back hard at the edge of a cliff

h/t to Raymond Gunt

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:41 | 4524772 Itchy and Scratchy
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I don't think anyone thought Putin was going to back down from Victoria Nuland (nee: Nudelman). That weasel has fled the scene of the crime just like the rest of her visionary world domineering type liberal fascists will. When push comes to shove they are the biggest cowards on the globe ....unless it is a little defenseless and vulnerable opponent that they can arrange for someone else to beat on!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:28 | 4524884 Accounting101
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Liberal fascists? You just needed to sneak tribal bullshit in there. The tribal itch is hard to resist. Perhaps you should have called them neoliberal fascists, and no, the term neoliberal has nothing to do with political parties.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:34 | 4524896 Abi Normal
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Hey, I just call them Communists, just sayin'...easier to spell, gets the point across.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:22 | 4525117 Johnny Cocknballs
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tribal bullshit? what does that mean?

Does it matter if the people killing you and destroying your country are globalists rather than nationalists - and is that enough to take them out of "fascism" for you?  Do you think "right wing" states have killed more people than "left wing" states in the past, say, 100 years? 

As to the neocons....  everyone should read this for an intro

http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

I can spare you reading Strauss - an intellectual charlatan who in essence filtered an Ayn Rand level understanding of Plato and Aristotle through the filter of his Jewish ethnocentrism and racialism.  He was not a "philosopher" so much as a Jewish elitist justifying ex post facto elitism. 

Neoconservatism is little more than the Likudnik Zionist 5th Column amongst American Jews.  There are also your Cheneys and Woolseys, and while they are largely neocon in practice, as warhawks, it is dubious they are neo, or zio-conservative in worldview, actually.

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:11 | 4524973 naiverealist
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The term is NEOCONS.  Check out who Nuland's husband is nd his affiliations.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:18 | 4525111 Tim_
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Victoria Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, is also a jew.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:42 | 4524776 gatorengineer
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All this kabuki theater has one goal, to expedite the US export of our Natural Gas, to our European, Chinese and Japanese Allies.....  QED.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:42 | 4524777 CPL
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Coyote was walking one day when he met Old Woman. She greeted him and asked where he was headed.

"Just roaming around," said Coyote.

"You better stop going that way, or you'll meet a giant who kills everybody."

"Oh, giants don't frighten me," said Coyote (who had never met one). "I always kill them. I'll fight this one too, and make an end of him."

"He's bigger and closer than you think," said Old Woman.

"I don't care," said Coyote, deciding that a giant would be about as big as a bull moose and calculating that he could kill one easily.

So Coyote said good-bye to Old Woman and went ahead, whistling a tune. On his way he saw a large fallen branch that looked like a club. Picking it up, he said to himself, "I'll hit the giant over the head with this. It's big enough and heavy enough to kill him." He walked on and came to a huge cave right in the middle of the path. Whistling merrily, he went in.

Suddenly Coyote met a woman who was crawling along on the ground.

"What's the matter?" he asked.

"I'm starving," she said, "and too weak to walk. What are you doing with that stick?"

"I'm going to kill the giant with it," said Coyote, and he asked if she knew where he was hiding.

Feeble as she was, the woman laughed. "You're already in the giant's belly."

"How can I be in his belly?" asked Coyote. "I haven't even met him."

"You probably thought it was a cave when you walked into his mouth," the woman said, and sighed. "It's easy to walk in, but nobody ever walks out. This giant is so big you can't take him in with your eyes. His belly fills a whole valley."

Coyote threw his stick away and kept on walking. What else could he do?

Soon he came across some more people lying around half dead. "Are you sick?" he asked.

"No," they said, "just starving to death. We're trapped inside the giant."

"You're foolish," said Coyote. "If we're really inside this giant, then the cave walls must be the inside of his stomach. We can just cut some meat and fat from him."

"We never thought of that," they said.

"You're not as smart as I am," said Coyote.

Coyote took his hunting knife and started cutting chunks out of the cave walls. As he had guessed, they were indeed the giant's fat and meat, and he used it to feed the starving people. He even went back and gave some meat to the woman he had met first. Then all the people imprisoned in the giant's belly started to feel stronger and happier, but not completely happy. "You've fed us," they said, "and thanks. But how are we going to get out of here?"

"Don't worry," said Coyote. "I'll kill the giant by stabbing him in the heart. Where is his heart? It must be around here someplace."

"Look at the volcano puffing and beating over there," someone said.

"Maybe it's the heart."

"So it is, friend," said Coyote, and began to cut at this mountain.

Then the giant spoke up. "Is that you, Coyote? I've heard of you. Stop this stabbing and cutting and let me alone. You can leave through my mouth; I'll open it for you."

"I'll leave, but not quite yet," said Coyote, hacking at the heart. He told the others to get ready. "As soon as I have him in his death throes, there will be an earthquake. He'll open his jaw to take a last breath, and then his mouth will close forever. So be ready to run out fast!"

Coyote cut a deep hole in the giant's heart, and lava started to flow out. It was the giant's blood. The giant groaned, and the ground under the people's feet trembled.

"Quick, now!" shouted Coyote. The giant's mouth opened and they all ran out. The last one was the wood tick. The giant's teeth were closing on him, but Coyote managed to pull him through at the last moment.

"Look at me," cried the wood tick, "I'm all flat!"

"It happened when I pulled you through," said Coyote. "You'll always be flat from now on. Be glad you're alive."

"I guess I'll get used to it," said the wood tick, and he did.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:54 | 4524800 Bendromeda Strain
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Gee, thanks for that, Two Dogs Humping.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:41 | 4524908 CPL
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No problem Untrimmed Beaver.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4524918 Abi Normal
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LOL, smart little Coyote!  Where'd he buy the knife?  Love the lore man...and the names are priceless!!

Do you all have names for mewling quims?  I'd like to use that if I could?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:03 | 4524958 CPL
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Fill your boots.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:48 | 4525188 frenzic
Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:50 | 4524931 greatbeard
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>> Two Dogs Humping.

Now that was one funny joke.

 

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:01 | 4524823 BigJim
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Is that a true story?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:26 | 4524877 Boomberg
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I find it questionable that Coyote could cut thru the stomach lining with his pocket knife, and this Monster must have had very weak stomach acid. However it does give a credible explanation for the shape of the wood tick, so it could very well be true. 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:48 | 4524923 Abi Normal
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absolutely! 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:40 | 4524904 Son of Captain Nemo
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CPL

Wonderful story and it almost sounds like it could be a Native American fable about the white settler when you read it. But then again Native Americans would never associate vestiges of mother earth in any way to "white men".

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4524928 Abi Normal
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That benevolent giant, tisk, tisk!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:04 | 4524944 CPL
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It's a lot older than that.  But you can draw reference to any situation from it, because that's what a fable or myth is supposed to do. Teach of the past and find a dialogue to help draw a solution in a complex situation using a strawman to provide an example.

Versus the modern European tradition of story telling to reenforce control mechanisms while offering no solutions except murder, theft or rape.  Now imagine raising generations of people over hundreds of years with that type of story telling and all you get are psychopaths.  Examples:

Cinderella:  Where some chick puts on a nice dress to fuck a rich prince. 

Hansel and Gretle:  The two kids kicked out by their parents that puts some old lady in a stove after eating her candy house and wrecking her shit.

Sleeping Beauty:  A guy has to fight tooth and nail to get with a chick in a coma.

Snow white:  Some chick has issues with her gin-soaked stepmother so she gets a bunch of miners and a prince to off her.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:14 | 4524975 Joe A
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Don't forget little red riding hood which is about menstruating, becoming fertile and about not going into the forest because the big bad wolf will first kill your granny (a metaphor for wisdom and chastity) and then he will rape you and kill you. Thank goodness the hunter comes along and kills the big bad wolf.

American stories (as in hollywood) usually entail men in funny costumes with magical powers (a metaphor for something I won't go into) living with a small boy in a cave (hmmm dubious). Oh, and the end is always happy and the good guy always wins.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:20 | 4524999 Abi Normal
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that's why they were Grimm....hehe...get it?  They were meant to do many things, show inhumanity, cruelty, theft, etc...lore to first scare the hell out of you, and then enlighten.

As to Hollywierd, I've just said enough.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:39 | 4525312 resurger
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Loved it .... when he went into the cave i thought he will find the monster there ... sneaky hhh

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:43 | 4524778 NOZZLE
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Go long May Popcorn Futures, and May Butter Futures, 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:45 | 4524779 glaucon was right
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If war breaks out...

 

Can we send liberals first? Especially feminists. Please, please.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:00 | 4524822 holdbuysell
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If war breaks out, send the US' Finest 535 and their kin ONLY.

They can send postcards to let everyone know how it's going.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:22 | 4524875 Landrew
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A sad ignorant response, YOU should have said send the CHILDREN of the worlds RICHEST 1%!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:27 | 4524881 i_call_you_my_base
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"we" LOL

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:50 | 4524926 hootowl
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Lesbos, liberals, sodomites, trannies, unwed mothers, the vast majority of whom cannot complete an obstacle course, holding hands and sharing foxholes, plastic guns, and APV's in combat. 

What a scary, formidable, frontline, Ovomit military that will be.

Kinda begs the question on whether there are "no atheists in foxholes".

Pentagon Brass should all be defrocked and dishonorably discharged WITH NO PENSIONS, for allowing Ovomit to do this to our military without taking him out, with prejudice.  The same with the Congress.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 16:58 | 4525553 logicalman
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On the subject of prejudice.....

You seem to have a pretty bad case.

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:53 | 4524933 greatbeard
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>> Can we send liberals first?

Always goes right to the red/blue thing, doesn't it?  We are doomed.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:45 | 4524780 skwid vacuous
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combined with the China export #'s ... my Larry Kudlow magic 8 ball says : bullish

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:47 | 4524785 shovelhead
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Big suprise?

Vicky already told you...

"Fuck the EU."

How embarrassing for Obama.

Puffing out his chest, getting bitch-slapped and still have to pay a gas bill to Putin.

Even a really bad day on the golf course is better than that.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:21 | 4524871 nmewn
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Yeah, he's definitely upset about the whole thing (everyone can tell) and following events very very closely from a warmer climate than DC, somewhere that has 36 holes of golf.

Like the Ocean Reef Club, in Key Largo Fla.

https://www.oceanreef.com/

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/marine-one-helicopter-president-barack-obama-first-lady-photo-220708770.html;_ylt=AvQMg1RpxXGTRPq95xOtYXfRtDMD

Iz good to be oligarch.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:39 | 4524903 Abi Normal
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The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful...fore-skin!!!  If only he would just stay on vacation...sigh!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:48 | 4524925 Berspankme
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Hey barry, jarrett called and said she has your tiny balls in a jar in DC. Poor reggie, nothing to lick on the back nine

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 13:37 | 4525153 Tim_
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Presidential Aide Valerie Jarrett Discloses Her Jewish Roots


"The White House can add one more senior staffer to its list of advisers with Jewish roots, and it is an unlikely name. Valerie Jarrett, President Obama’s senior adviser and assistant for intergovernmental affairs and public engagement, disclosed her Jewish ancestry to a Jewish gathering on Monday."

"'Many, many years ago, my parents hosted a seder for a group of our Jewish friends, and it was here that my father first told me that my great-grandfather was Jewish. What a wonderful surprise for our friends, and for me! So Passover has always been a special holiday for me.'"

"She went on to talk about the seder held by Obama’s Jewish staffers while on the campaign trail in 2008 and how Obama, after being elected, lived up to his promise to hold a Passover seder every year at the White House."

"The Obama White House has lost several of its top Jewish staffers recently, with the departure of presidential chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, senior political counselor David Axelrod and chief economic adviser Lawrence Summers. It did gain, however, Jacob Lew, an Orthodox Jew, as director of the Office of Management and Budget."

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:48 | 4524787 Cloud9.5
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We have been saying that America is in decline on this blog for a number of years.  Why is it a surprise that regional powers will reassert themselves as our decline accelerates?  One of the greatest mistakes made by declining empires is the failure to recognize when strategic withdrawals are necessary.   We have neither the fuel nor the treasure necessary to maintain our status as a world policeman.

 

Europe better recognize that reality and make the necessary accommodations.   If the oil and gas continues to flow into Europe it will not be coming from the United States.  It will be coming from Russia and other oil exporting nations, many of which are seeing declines in their exports.

 

We will be lucky to maintain our hegemony of the western hemisphere by midcentury.

People really need to read the Hirsh Report and the German Army Study on Peak Oil.

 

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/oil_peaking_netl.pdf

 

http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf

 

 

 

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:48 | 4524791 rwe2late
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 Gee, I wonder why the Crimeans don't want to allow a convoy of military officers entry to "observe"?

"OSCE" military officers?

Oh yeah, as though (most if not all)  those same officers attempting entry are not also NATO officers from NATO member counties.

 

 

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:18 | 4524863 Urban Redneck
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If the band of 40 OSCE thieves want to enter Vlad's treasure cave, they need to learn how to say, "Open Sesame" in Russian...

Something with the words, "Autonomous Crimea", and "Right of Self-Determination" in it.

Diplomats hire shysters too.

But the secret really is as simple as speaking the "right words"...

The OSCE shysters know this and the exact words to use damn well, so the whole thing is a made-for-MSM farce.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:23 | 4525004 silvermail
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I do not know such a fact that the OSCE issued an official decision to send observers to the Crimea. Vote on this in the OSCE not was conducted. This group is not an official mission of the OSCE. This is a personal initiative of a group of citizens.
For example: I worked as a policemen. And I decided to come to visit my friend. But he would not let me enter into to his house.
It is mean that, he refused to let the police come to his house? No.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:23 | 4524872 Rakshas
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...."Oh yeah, as though (most if not all)  those same officers attempting entry are not alsoNATO spotters from NATO member counties.".........

 

.... you're welcome....

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4524927 post turtle saver
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maybe if the Russians / Ukrainians / whatever they're calling themselves these days don't want the OSCE around they shouldn't sign up for treaties... you know, like the Helsinki Final Act and the Charter of Paris

declaring force majeure? you're kidding right? the only "force" in the area is fucking Russia and the goddamned Russian separatists that are helping them

this is going to blow back into Russia's face in a big way... you're going to see hawks brought on board in the 2014 and 2016 US elections because of these shennanigans, all they did was justify Mitt Romney's cold war analysis

defense budgets will be fully justified now, and plans for missile shields will be moved forward as a result, bringing the very destabilization that Putin said he wants to avoid... layers in layers and anything that happens in Crimea will not be the end of it... no one declares mate in a seven game series and we have a long way to go before the impact of these decisions on both sides are felt

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:36 | 4525022 rwe2late
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Only the very myopic ignoring all the US/NATO/EU actions could claim that the only "force" is Russian.

None of this development in Ukraine would have come about except for the initial and current US intrusions and meddling. The US illegally supported (e.g. MCCain) and financed (e.g. Nuland) the violent overthrow of an elected government and the establishment of a rump regional one. The US immediately recognized the rump regional government and the rump's exaggerated claim to possess and govern Ukraine regions hostile to the coup.
This was all done in the context of unnecessary NATO expansion, something rejected by the overthrown elected Ukraine government.

Obama has obtusely issued a self-incriminating executive order which should first be applied against himself and his underlings:
Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person (including any foreign branch) of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State:
(i) to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have engaged in, directly or indirectly, any of the following:
(A) actions or policies that undermine democratic processes or institutions in Ukraine;
(B) actions or policies that threaten the peace, security, stability, sovereignty, or territorial integrity of Ukraine; or
...
(iii) to be a leader of an entity that has, or whose members have, engaged in any activity described in subsection
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-bl...

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 15:57 | 4525466 post turtle saver
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blah blah blah... I see plenty of charts showing where Russian forces are deployed, but not one single goddamned chart that shows where opposing NATO etc. forces are deployed in the area... you know why?

because there aren't any

take your pathetic misdirecting bullshit somewhere else... Russia is breaking treaties and breaking borders and then pointing at everyone else saying it's "that guy's" fault, not theirs... it's Russia's fault that we have this issue to deal with at the moment, plain and simple... if they want to break treaties and show that they can't be dealt with in an orderly & diplomatic fashion, then to hell with them

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 16:28 | 4525497 silvermail
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"Russia is breaking treaties and breaking border"

During the period from 1798 to 2002, the U.S. used military force abroad 238 times.
So, you are a WH troll or you are just a hypocrite and a scoundrel from the birth?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 17:18 | 4525623 post turtle saver
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fuck off silvermail, what you posted has nothing to do with what's being discussed... this problem is of Russia's making because they refuse to adhere to the treaties they signed up to, plain and simple

and stop "yelling" with bold text, no one gives a fuck what you say whether you yell it or not

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 17:38 | 4525684 silvermail
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Dear post turtle saver,

I knew in advance, that you will not be able to argue to me in main and basically. You have not been able to argue except demagoguery about font and common phrases such as "Russia is violating blah blah blah."

You want to demagogy? Please: U.S. violates international law general principle behind Serbia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Honduras, Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia.
Where's sovereignty? Where is the consent of the UN? Where is the lack of victims?

Washington talks about sovereignty - is a new anecdote, huh?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 19:24 | 4525895 rwe2late
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You are a myopic turtle indeed

NATO military forces, US Special Ops, drones, etc. do not have to be deployed, occupying, invading, or attacking in the immediate Ukraine area to be threatening Russia, or breaking laws and borders etc.,

nor are conventional military units on the map the only kind of military forces.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37886.htm

 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 16:17 | 4525483 silvermail
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"Russia and the goddamn Russian separatists"?

When the Germans were reunited, the whole of Europe applauded.
But when Russians want reunited, Europe and US to spit bile.

===

I do not understand what the problem is.
- In Crimea live Russian people.
- They do not want to live in the EU.
- They do not want to live in the United States.
- They do not want to join NATO.
- They do not want to join in any other shit.
- They do not want "Western democracy".
- They do not want "Western values."
- They just want to be together with Russia.

What's the problem?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 17:20 | 4525629 post turtle saver
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the problem is that your analogy doesn't hold water

replace "Crimea" with "India" or any other country in the world where Russian citizens reside and you'll see just how ludicrous your premise is

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 17:49 | 4525689 silvermail
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I want to replace the Crimea to Kosovo, do you mind? LOL

So, what do the U.S. troops right now in Afghanistan?
And what do the U.S. troops right now in Iraq?
Why these sovereign countries, right now, subjected to military aggression by the U.S. occupation forces?

Please answer me these questions simply and directly, with no empty demagogy and blah blah blah.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:50 | 4524794 Robert of Ottawa
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Why are Western OSCE "officers" interferring? We wouldn't want them marching into Canada to monitor our behavior. Also, who were the snipers in Kiev? I do understand what's happening here, but let's drop the moral grand-standing crap that the Ukraine "liberated" itslef. The non-Russian Ukrainians, with the assistance of tyhe West, did overthrow the legitimate government, corrupt it may have been.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:32 | 4524885 Rakshas
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Slightly OT but goes to Canada's position/Motive - Hmmmmmmm, suddenly Harper is talking with the oppostition re. Parti Quebecois run at another refer-rum- dumb on sovereignty, let's see how the globalist shill handles this one when it's in his backyard... 

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4524920 shovelhead
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Freedom Poutaine.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 10:59 | 4524817 Bioscale
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What Russians know about those "security" officers we do not?

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:00 | 4524819 22winmag
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I bet those warning shots were actually fired at IMF austerity plan forces!!!!!!!!

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 11:00 | 4524821 HurricaneSeason
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When will Putin close the GM and Ford plants and sell their $135 Billion in U.S. treasury bonds?  U.S. economic sanctions are already in place aren't they? Sanctions are war, usually one sided. China sold about $48 Billion in U.S. treasury bonds in December, what about January and February?  They can't be happy with the Asian pivot and should want Russian gas instead of coal if they want to keep breathing.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:02 | 4524957 layman_please
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it's not so simple. on monday russian stock market plummeted 12%, costing more than sochi olympics($60billion), later retracing 6%. maybe that's the reason putin slowed down, as his oligarchs started to squeal with pain. they are not a threat to putin but they might make a point about laying off workers and cutting tax payments.

we might disagree with the article but it makes some valid points worth considering. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/business/why-russia-cant-afford-another-cold-war.html?_r=0

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:42 | 4524989 layman_please
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furthermore, if sanctions do work, russia is forced to sell the treasuries out of necessity. other option would be to print rubles but this wouldn't have any negative effect on US markets. and what will they sell them for? dollars, rubles, or euros? it won't be gold as there isn't any to be found. there are not many assets liquid enough to absorb hundreds of billions of $ treasuries when dropped on the market overnight. if russian government tax and export revenue starts to shrink, they'll have to sell the treasuries for rubles to curb the deficit and this would be inflationary for the already declining ruble. there's enough sellers for ruble at the moment and rates were being rised to compensate.

interesting times.

edit:

russia sold $10 billion recently, sending ruble to record low. imagine the damage 10-20 times of that amount can do?!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-02/ruble-set-to-weaken-as-putin-s-ukraine-incursion-risks-sanctions.html

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 12:43 | 4525031 HurricaneSeason
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What if Russia sells $135 Billion in U.S. treasuries over a few months and China also sells the same amount of U.S. treasuries over the same few months?  Would it lead to price discovery if they used them to settle international trade?  Only the Federal Reserve is buying now and wants to stop so they will be repaid the trillions they have already lent (that they didn't have in the first place). I doubt the Federal Reserve wants to see their balance sheet hit $5 or $10 trillion and still expect to be repaid.

The mortgage backed securities were bid at 20 cents on the dollar, starting the 2008 financial crisis because nobody knew which banks held how much of them. How low would U.S. treasuries go in price discovery? Recently, Belgium bought some, but I doubt that continues.

Sat, 03/08/2014 - 14:36 | 4525230 layman_please
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i'm afraid if they sell it over a few months it won't cause necessary damage and federal reserve will gobble it up eventually. it would be only few months worth of QE. there won't be any price discovery, it would have so severe consequences, starting with the rate rise, that FR balance sheet would be least of the problems. the outcome would put US and other western banks in jeopardy, meaning FR will have to cough up the money one way or another.

what we might see, as with conventional war, is western allies backing each other up financially. belgium buying treasuries is nothing else than EU covering US back.

my point being, russian economy even with china as their ally, is still too small while as vulnerable as US and west in general. financial wars are as nasty as any war and there will be no winners in this globalised economy which is already on the brink of collapse.

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