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Warning Shots Fired At OSCE Mission In Crimea; Russia Warns Of Treaty Force Majeure Over "Unfriendly NATO Threats"
Perhaps it is time to finally admit that anyone who thought Putin's Tuesday press conference, which the market so jubilantly assumed was a case of "blinking" and de-escalating tensions with the west, was wrong. If there is still any confusion, following yesterday's news that Gazprom officially threatened Ukraine with cutting off its gas supplies, as well as the storming of a Ukraine base by Russian troops - luckily with no shots fired so far - then today's developments should any remaining doubts. Moments ago AP reported that as the latest, third in a row, group of OSCE inspectors tried to enter Ukraine, they were not only barred from doing so, but warnings shots were fired to emphasize the point by pro-Russian forces.
An Associated Press reporter says pro-Russian forces refused to let a foreign military mission enter Crimea on Saturday.
After the officers had stopped, the armed men fired warning bursts of automatic weapons fire into the air to make other unidentified vehicles halt. No injuries were reported.
The multinational group of military officers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe was attempting to enter the embattled peninsula from the north. The armed men told them they had no authorization to enter Crimea.
The OSCE mission will likely return to the Ukrainian city of Kherson where it had spent the night, the AP reporter said.
Russia and Ukraine are locked in a tense standoff over Crimea.
the OSCE tweeted:
Military assessment visitors from OSCE States returning to Kherson to plan next steps after being denied entry to Crimea at Armyans'k today
— OSCE (@OSCE) March 8, 2014
Bloomberg adds:
OSCE tried to enter Crimea for third day, warning shots were fired as it attempted to do so today, Tatyana Baeva, OSCE spokeswoman, said by phone from Vienna.
Nobody injured in incident, OSCE mission is now back in Kherson, southern Ukraine.
OSCE 29 member states that provided people for Crimea mission may meet today or tomorrow in Vienna to discuss further action: Baeva
Then there was this overnight escalation as reported by Ukraine's TV5 station (of questionably credibility), via Bloomberg:
Pro-Russian armed men today captured building in Simferopol, capital city of Crimea, TV5 private news channel reports, citing Vladislav Selezniov, spokesman for Ukraine’s defense minister in Crimea.
Russian soldiers seized Ukraine’s state border guard division in Shcholkino near Kerch Strait, Ukraine’s border service says in statement on its website
Russian soldiers stormed Shcholkino unit last night, seized weapons storage, beat Ukrainian border guards, took away their mobile phones and forced them and their families to leave
Currently, 11 border guard units are being blocked: Ukraine border service says in separate statement
Ukraine denied entrance to 513 “extremists” from Russia during last 24 hrs, state border guard service says in another separate statement on its website
Remember, all it takes is for one stray bullet to hit a human target, on either side of the conflict, for the market to grasp just how wrong its assessment of de-escalation has been.
Elsewhere, while inspectors were trying to make their way into Ukraine - unsuccessfully - Russia announced it was considering a further freeze of U.S. military inspections under arms control treaties in retaliation to Washington's decision to halt military cooperation with Russia, news reports said Saturday.
Interfax blasted earlier:
- UNJUSTIFIED U.S., NATO THREATS SEEN AS UNFRIENDLY GESTURE, ALLOW TO DECLARE FORCE-MAJEURE - RUSSIAN DEFENSE SOURCE
- RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY CONSIDERING SUSPENSION OF RECEIVING INSPECTION GROUPS UNDER START TREATY, VIENNA DOCUMENT 2011 - SOURCE
Russian news agencies carried a statement by an unidentified Defense Ministry official saying that Moscow sees the U.S. move as a reason to suspend U.S. inspections in Russia in line with the 2010 New START treaty on cutting U.S. and Russian nuclear arsenals and the 2011 Vienna agreement that envisages mutual inspections of Russian and NATO military facilities as part of confidence-building measures.
A Defense Ministry spokesman wouldn't comment on the reports, which are a usual way in Russia to carry unofficial government signals.
The U.S. and the European Union have introduced sanctions over Russia in response to its move to send troops that have taken control of Ukraine's Black Sea peninsula of Crimea.
So if the START treaty is suspended how long until its anti-proliferation clauses are scrapped completely once more, and the Cold War arms race returns once again.
Also while escalations such as these threaten to transform the new Cold War into a Hot one, the clock is ticking, and in favor of Russia, because the longer Ukraine remains without western aid, the quicker its foreign reserves will run out, and the faster the country will become a vassal state of Gazpromia. Add the ticking countdown to the March 16 Crimean referendum, which the west and Ukraine have both declared illegitimate yet have no power to stop, and suddenly one can see how Putin once again outsmarted everything the west had to throw at it. WSJ explains:
Gazprom's demand raises the prospect that some of the aid Western powers have guaranteed could end up flowing into Moscow's coffers to pay Ukraine's gas bill. Virtually all of the country's natural-gas imports come from Russia. Late last year it was granted a discount that Moscow has threatened to rescind since the fall of Mr. Yanukovych.
"This now becomes an EU/U.S. problem: Who is going to lend Ukraine the money to pay the gas bill? If so, what will be the conditions?" said Jonathan Stern, an analyst at the Oxford Energy Institute.
A spokesman for Gazprom said that the threatened cutoff wouldn't affect supplies to Europe, which gets about a third of its gas from Russia, much of it via pipelines that run through Ukraine.
In 2009, after the Russian energy giant switched off the supply to Ukraine, Ukrainian authorities began using the supply transiting their territory that Gazprom said was destined for customers in Europe. Gazprom then cut off the flow altogether, causing shortages and price increases for end customers.
"The EU, U.S. and IMF have just about three weeks to resolve this," Mr. Stern said.
At which point it's game, set match Putin once more.
Finally, what certainly helped Putin is that, as expected, China took the side of Russia, not of the "free world", in what is now a very distinct and clear axis of power the New Normal dipolar world.
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You live and think in the captivity of your illusions from the US faux news TV programs.
If Russia will announce that starting Monday, oil and gas are sold only for gold, then your whole demagoguery will collapse within 24 hours. Together with the U.S. dollar.
Only thing you can blame me is not underestimating the resilience of the biggest ponzi built by the most successful cabal in the world while backed by the strongest military. Illusion or not, it's still the reality.
They won't demand gold before there's no gold left in the west or after the whole things comes crashing down anyways.
What many neglect is the fact that the whole world is part of the global ponzi economy and no country would come out of this as a winner. Gold might help to get back on feet but it won't isolate from the economic turmoil.
Only advantage Russia has, is their self-sustaining populace who will do just fine during the interregnum caused by global economic collapse. Instead of SNAP, they grow majority of their food in their dachas. It is something like 70-80% of food in Russia is grown by the individuals(not to confuse with domestic agricultural industry).
You're right, I disagree with the article. They say the only reason Putin hasn't invaded Eastern Ukraine is because of a drop in the Russian stock market and the vulnerability of Russian penthouses in New York City. I think Kiev belongs to U.S. and the EU and is theirs for the taking whenever they realize that they've "won". Putin will still want his $2 billion in gas bills and I think he's cut off agricultural imports from the Ukraine and stopped shipping oil to their refinery. Doesn't sound like he wants to take over a bankrupt country's bills to me. The U.S. just wanted those Russian bases and that's why they financed and promoted the violent overthrow in the first place. Europe will get the bills. I doubt they get the bases that the Russians have leased for 30 years and there is no invasion since their lease allows 25,000 troops.
According to the article, Russia is the major stakeholder in Gazprom, but Americans are the majority of the stockholders.
it's not only about stock markets and penthouses. russian economy is quite westernized, meaning everything is interlocked and drop in stock markets can paralyze their economy equally to US economy. it's not something that can be easily ignored unless everybody is already in the hot war. at least russain stock markets have some reason, apart from US exchanges which rally on every negative news.
of course reasons for the coup, responding russian invasion, and then halting the invasion, we can only speculate, but i'm sure there is no single answer to any of this(both economic/military wise).
can russia cut ukrainian gas without leaving EU try? 80% of european gas flows through ukraine, rest of it goes through belarus. if not, then they have to pay the bills for ukrainian gas anyways or turn off big part of european gas, which will hurt them financially, as 3/4 of russian export revenue comes from gas exports.
I wasn't saying that it is only about the Russian stock market or penthouses in New York. That has nothing to do with it. That is what the New York Times article said. It also said that the majority of Gazprom stockholders are Americans. In a ffinancial war, the pain will be spread around, especially if China signs on.
The Russian "invasion" and the "halting of the invasion" is a U.S. propaganda fairy tale. The Ukraine doesn't accuse them of exceeding the 25,000 Russian troops allowed in Crimea due to the base lease that is good until 2042. The U.S. just wans to appoint new Ukrainian leaders and tear up the lease. Try closing Gitmo and putting in Russian missiles. It's always been about stealing those Russian bases and setting missiles on the Russian border. The military industrial complex and Israel and the Saudis are pissed about not getting to bomb Syria and Iran and they don't want to see that problem again, regardless of how much it bankrupts the U.S. and Europe.
Can Russia cut off gas to Europe? That's the real question, isn't it? Master Blaster runs Bartertown and Obama is Tina Turner. I understand Russia is building a pipeline from Siberia to China, but don't know when it is expected to be completed. I haven't seen anything about it in the news. Maybe the U.S. would like to see Europe with a gas problem if fracking is all they say it is in a couple years.
sure, it's what NYT article was implying. point taken.
i'm calling coup a coup and invasion an invasion. i have no illusions about neither side. both are just following their imperial agendas and i have no justification for any of this. i'm not taking sides.
i disagree with 'it's always being about bases, misses etc'. it's just one facet. i, for one, feel more inclined to point in the direction of bankers(economic reasons), be it distraction or issues related to natural gas or what have you.
edit:
" During the brief 2006 cutoff, Ukraine dipped into some of the gas that was supposed to be passing through on its way to Western Europe, causing supply disruptions in places like Poland and Italy. "
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB123080339916446769
also
80% EU gas going through ukraine might be obsolete data as Nord Stream under baltic sea was finished in 2011-2012 while South Stream under black sea is to become functional next year.
Russia does not have any food dependency from the Ukraine. This is just another myth from Western propaganda. And the attempt to wishful thinking.
Agreed, Russians are one of the most self-sustaining people in the world. See my above post.
By the way, Russia bought for next to nothing all stock shares of Russian monopolies in Ukraine, when prices have collapsed. It was a new Russian greetings for west banksters from Mr. Putin. LOL
By Russia I guess you mean the state money which wouldn't be so different from federal reserve and US stock exchanges. That would also explain the retrace. State money propping the stock markets is not a sign of confidence, imho. Just more fantasy markets.
The US has been beating up, invading, bombing lesser countries for so long that they never have developed adequate means to deal effectively with equals when the situation arises. Yeah buddy, how about some "shock and awe" now, - you neocon assholes.....
So it's all about Empires after all. While past wars were about Nationalism, now it is about only Three Empires ---- US, Russia and China. All other countries are vassal states belonging to the three Empires. Israel is the only exception and may be the power behind the throne with respect to determining US foreign policy. As far as economic systems, they are tied together in a global trading marketplace run by multinationals, oligarchs with corrupt ties to politicians. Unlike one country invading another country that starts a World War, this time it will be economic sanctions that will determine winners and losers. The economic war is about to erupt in Ukraine---- so far it is bloodless.
Most of the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs are jews though jews are less than 2%?of their populations. Half of united states millionaires are jewish and it is estimated, by jewish news sources, that over half of private donations to both parties comes from Jews. AIPAC in the US, CRIF in France, and like Jewish Lobby groups in dozens of nations give small but wealthy Jewish communities outsized power.
Whether or not people are willing to talk about it as such, International Jewry (not 'Zionism' which is an ideology of Judaism, but Jewish people globally) is an Empire... and it has much to do with what is happening globally. The Iraq War may well not have happened without Jewish groups, columnists, think tanks, editorial page editors, and so forth.
A significant number of people in this, wealthiest
of empires, wish to see Israel
per se as a larger, regional superpower. Or even "the" superpower. Religious drek from the Torah and Talmud both. Have you ever actually read tge former? It is simply not about love and peace and the love of humanity. Less so than even the Koran. Thankfully most people don't take it very seriously.
A large minority want a Greater Israel...No matter the cost in blood. That is, the blood of "the nations". Jewish Billionaires in france, the us, the uk, russia, south africa, australia. And elsewhere have shown tremendouse ethnocentrism and concern for Israel. The WJC and hundreds of other organizations coordinate globally as to Zionism, Judaism, and on maintaining a Jewish identity, etc. I'm not telling you to think it is good or bad, I'm telling you tgat you need to update your conceptioj of what an empire is...and the international Jewish Empire has targeted Mother Russia for a very long time.
anti-semitism can only exist if semitism exists...
Can not disagree as evidenced by Nuland Neocon husband, the likes of Perle, AIPAC, etc. I was more subtle. Nevertheless, sanctions have potential to bring down global economies. Question is who can best survive an all out financial/economic upheaval ? What happens if Russia and China have a reproachment ? Who comes out on top if US and Russia engage in economic warfare ? Uncharted waters so Neocons had better think twice before adopting continued marauder policies. Obviously tiny Israel demographically can not survive long term and has aligned and become part of policy making from within the US as a means of self survival---a perfectly logical strategy. However, my point is real power within empires stems from the global multinationals and oligarchs rather than the old nation state rivalries that started WW I and II. So far US is strongest empire but slowly becoming weaker due to financial indebtedness, loss of manufacturing base and trade account imbalances. In all empires corruption, greed and moral decline is also on increase making any ideological arguments mute.
Not three empires. One Empire.
Not sayin the rulers of China, Russia are angels. But they are not engaged in foreign conquest or military expansion. Their alliance in defense against a common threat does not make them an empire or make them the moral or functional equivalent of the Anglo/American Empire with its EU and Japanese vassal states. Anyone who has been reading ZH closely should understand that Russia and China are the intended victims of the Empire, and that we are playing into the hands of the globalists, banksters, kleptocrats and liars who rule it if we tar them with the same brush.
As Citizens of the Empire, we alone have the power to stop this madness before it escalates into a catastrophic war.
We did it in Syria! No one was more amazed than I was, but we, and the people of Britain, stopped Obama from directly attacking Syria! If we don't buy into the blizzard of lies and omissions, the twisted version of reality coming at us from our mass media, government and politicians, maybe we can do it again! But it won't be easy. War fever is a powerful force, and make no mistake, we are being played by Masters of the Game, the direct descendents and heirs of the folks who sold us the Spanish American War and the War to End All Wars.
Good source if you lean libertarian or right and want to take action: www.antiwar.com.
The "Peace Movement" is mostly MIA on this one. There's a glimmer of light at www.warisacrime.org. If you lean that way, you might want to get involved and raise the alarm!
Left, right or center, www.globalresearch.ca is an indispensible source for clarity about the big picture.
The past wars were not about nationalism, it's just a pretex, smoke and mirrors, wars are always about empires. Nazi Germany was financed from US banks, go read: http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler
Germany wanted to get the Empire of europe in 20. century and bankers just used that setup for their goals.
Why the OSCE are not welcome:
The Personal Envoy of the OSCE Chairperson-in-Office for Ukraine is Ambassador Tim Guldimann
http://www.osce.org/cio/116181
Who was for 2009-10, Senior Adviser and Head of the Middle East Project of the Henri Dunant Centre for Humanitarian Dialogue, Geneva
http://berlinminds.com/tim-guldimann/
Which has the following organisations listed as donors:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Centre_for_Humanitarian_Dialogue
I do so love to join the dots... ;o)
Seataka once spoke at an OSCE Hearing, his words were omitted from the record, though the reply still stands.
OSCE is yet another useless theatrical.
The multinational group of military officers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe was attempting to enter the embattled peninsula from the north. The armed men told them they had no authorization to enter Crimea.
Why Putin is absolutely right on not let ANYONE new into the Country, and to be objective moving forward in tracking the activities inside and outside Crimea!
Say a prayer for all those "of Russian descent" peoples in the rest of Ukraine that are in the hands of Svoboda "regulars".
Putin needs to take it one step further by announcing the expulsion of EU, U.S. and Israel diplomats from Russia and recalling Russian Diplomats from the EU, Israel and the U.S. This thing is just way too out of control and will only get worse.
when does the USS Maddox arrive on scene - got to have some 'merkan boys involved or the sheeple won't care about Crimea
Sending a lone destroyer into the Black Sea against the Russians is stupid, stupid, stupid, suicide for those on the USS Maddox.
The coward in chief/Valerie Jarrett won't do anything when it gets sunk and Americn sailors are killed or taken hostage.
Exterminate the Ovomit cabal.....oh, wait,....Ovomit and The Mooch, and Biden The Brain-Damaged are on vacation,....surely nothing could go wrong, now. VJ has no leash to hold her back.....we are safe.
why isn't ZEROHEDGE explaining these things:
Let's see, US Asst sec state Nuland who bragged about spending $5 billion to overthrow old gov in kiev, - J EW, Leader in new gov in Kiev - JEW, billionaire oligarchs appointed governors or regions, - J EWS,
US media owners - JE WS, main US political contributors - J EWS, US banking owners - JE WS,
New gov in kiev have passed a law to privatize state oil and gas company, even though no one elected them, who do you think will benefit? J EW S
AND
“We are witnessing a large geopolitical game in which the game is the destruction of Russia as
a geopolitical opponent of the United States, or of its global financial oligarchy.”
When you listen to Ms. Nuland in Washington D.C. on December 13th, 2013, at the National Press Club, an event sponsored by Chevron, you can really start putting the pieces together and seeing that what Mr. Yakunin is saying something that people should be paying attention to. Russia is not going to bow to the pressures of the West. So Russia may become much more militaristic and much more defensive in trying to stave off what Yakunin says is a global financial oligarchy.
The United States, through different agencies, they are starting to promote natural gas exploration, with Haliburton already in Poland, and Shell signed a deal with Ukraine last year. So there is this whole department, the Bureau of Energy Resources, that was set up in 2011 by former U.S. Secretary of State, HIILLARY CLINTON Mr. (Carlos) Pascual, who by the way was a former American ambassador to Ukraine, and who now heads this department, asserted that his teams efforts had already weakened Mr. Putin’s hand, and helped lower Ukraine’s dependence on Russia for natural gas supplies to 60 percent, down from 90 percent.
Mr. Pascual said that his team had worked to help Ukraine and other European countries break away from dependence on Russian gas. So that’s what you have here: You have a trade war, a currency war, and you have an energy war. So this has nothing to do with freedom and democracy in Ukraine.”
And about AIPAC influnece in USA
."why isn't ZEROHEDGE explaining these things:"
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.—Voltaire
90. Finally, under this perfect government no good action would be unrewarded and no bad one unpunished, and all should issue in the well-being of the good, that is to say, of those who are not malcontents in this great state, but who trust in Providence, after having done their duty, and who love and imitate, as is meet, the Author of all good, finding pleasure in the contemplation of His perfections, as is the way of genuine ‘pure love’, which takes pleasure in the happiness of the beloved. This it is which leads wise and virtuous people to devote their energies to everything which appears in harmony with the presumptive or antecedent will of God, and yet makes them content with what God actually brings to pass by His secret, consequent and positive [decisive] will, recognizing that if we could sufficiently understand the order of the universe, we should find that it exceeds all the desires of the wisest men, and that it is impossible to make it better than it is, not only as a whole and in general but also for ourselves in particular, if we are attached, as we ought to be, to the Author of all, not only as to the architect and efficient cause of our being, but as to our master and to the final cause, which ought to be the whole aim of our will, and which can alone make our happiness.
The Monadology, Gottfried Wilhelm LEIBNIZWhats even more absurd, is the whole world is being sold a bill of goods stating it is the Nassis taking over. Religion, especially Christianity can sure faq up critical thought.
The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a Washington D.C-based quasi-governmental organization funded by the U.S. which boasts that it is "supporting freedom around the world."[1]
Alan Weinstein, one of the founders of the NED, explained in 1991:
A lot of what we [NED] do was done 25 years ago covertly by the CIA [2]
Most of the NED, and its affiliated organizations, deals with influencing political processes abroad. The means employed range from influencing civil society, media, fostering business groups, lending support to preferred politicians/political parties, election monitoring, and fostering human rights groups.
It’s right there in the organizations own statements:
The National Endowment for Democracy was set up by President Ronald Regan in the 1980s, and it employed an assortment of organizations across the political spectrum including the AFL-CIO and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to help funnel US tax dollars to overseas groups working to develop democracy in their respective countries. In the 1980s, especially in Poland, the NED had proved an effective tool in loosening and weakening Soviet power by supporting Polish dissidents.
The NED was the chief pillar of a plan by then President Clinton to get rid of Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic. The plan, developed by the CIA, was intricate and comprehensive. Basically, it was to work through the NED’s two subordinate wings, the International Republican Institute (IRI) and the National Democratic Institute (NDI) as well as the Center for International Private Enterprise, an offshoot of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The IRI would focus on dissident students while the NDI would work closely with different opposition parties. The State department and the U.S. Agency for International Development would play the leading role in channeling funds through commercial contracts and nonprofit groups. Under the authority AID, other money would be funneled to opposition groups and the mayor of opposition cities.
Because of their freedom of travel and their ability to move in closed off areas, the CIA recruited the staff of the NGOs, mainly relief agencies and human rights groups, which produced a great deal of useful intelligence. According to one former CIA official, such recruitment was done very selectively. "We didn’t want the organization discredited or people killed nor could they be seen as foreign vassals,” said a former official of the agency’s Directorate of Operations. Another agency official said, "There was a lot of reluctance in this area.”
The proposed coup against Milosevic had to be “very tightly controlled from the beginning, middle and end. You had to support one group against another group; you helped people who were going to help you,” one said.
So the Clinton plan was to use covert/overt, insider/outsider elements simultaneously, which meant employing NGOs in coordination with sophisticated espionage. Said one former senior agency official, who was closely involved, “We planned to do to Milosevic what he’d done to us. We went in to create trouble spots, support dissidents, circulate subversive literature, beam in anti-Milosevic broadcasts, and neutralize his army and security forces. Solidarity was the model.”
The agency plan had several general goals; first the program should be a region-wide effort, making use of a Central European network of banks, corporations, political, and social organizations to fund coup assets plus use the intelligence services of Austria, Germany, Albania, Italy, and even Greece, for recruitment and penetration. All of these nations had their own excellent collection networks inside Serbia. The plan was also to develop useful and valuable sources inside Milosevic’s circle.
A big part of the Clinton plan was to have the president appeal directly to Serbia’s people. Clinton saw them as an irreplaceable ally. He wanted to forge a direct bond with them by speaking past the Milosevic government. U.S. support could not win them their freedom; that was their task, and backing Slobodan was not in their best interest. This took place before huge public demonstrations. Since Milosevic controlled the media, the U.S. would counter with radio and TV broadcasts whose theme would be Slobodan’s decay. The broadcasts would also contain phrase of code to agents on the ground, much like the French resistance in WWII. The NGO’s would smuggle in tons of printed materials and organize “a get out the vote” campaign.
“You had to be very careful; you had to look at every facet, every aspect,” said a US intelligence officer who was involved.
Such operations in the Balkan were usually run out of the CIA’s European Division in Frankfurt, Germany, but this time it would the CIA’s Central Eurasian Division at Langley who would look to it. Key support points would be U.S. Embassies in Austria, Hungary, Kosovo, Croatia, Germany, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Romania. Support would also come from the major German political parties, all of which had “action arms” that would contribute resources. Vienna would be the major focus of intelligence collection efforts. In Vienna, intelligence poured in like “water through an open sluice,” a former participant said. Austrian military intelligence had given America details of Milosevic’s ”Operation Horseshoe,” a major Serb military plan, which would force 800,000 Kosovars into rootless exile. Austria and the countries of Central and Eastern Europe entirely wired. “Vienna’s information was amazing, and so was Germany's,” said a participant in the operation.
Another resource was the 30,000-40,000 Serbs living in Austria. Serbia had established the military draft, and the CIA had many walk-in Serbs who gave it detailed assessments of troops, list of security and police officials and other valuable information. Other Serb deserters went by ratlines to Germany where they were debriefed at Westport, a former US military base turned intelligence center. Many Serbs returned to Belgrade to continue to report.
Milosevic was constantly passing draconian new laws to root out dissidents and make war on his own students, and the CIA, having learned from the attempts by the Soviets who tried to decapitate Polish union, Solidarity, using mass arrests, the Serbian rebel students, whose outfit was called Otpor, set up a brilliant horizontal structure exactly the opposite of Milosevic’s central structure. Otpor was made up of small cells, and to escape capture, its members constantly shifted to a complicated network of safe houses. Operations were launched from these. A safe house used signals such as a raised blind or a closed window or a raised flag on a mailbox to indicate that all was well.
In addition, the CIA, through NGO’s, supplied the rebel Serbian students with thousands of cell phones, radio transmitters, and fax machines. Calls and e-mails went out through servers outside Serbia to escape Belgrade’s magpie scrutiny. Otpor was also supplied with printing equipment and supplies, and the publications and leaflets began to have an impact.
But the most urgent priority had been to establish a money conduit to fund Otpor and other Serbian defectors in place. Much of the money was cash gathered in Hungary and smuggled in suitcases over the border into Serbia., preferably U.S. dollars or German deutsche marks that were widely used in Serbia and had a higher value than the worthless Serb dinar. To avoid detection, the money trail moved constantly. Very early Otpor received money to a tune of $3 million from NED. The money was transferred to accounts outside of Serbia, mainly in Hungary and Austria. Since Milosevic had nationalized the Serb banks, a lot more money came over the Serb border in suitcases from Hungary. The NED would not know where the money was going, and would receive a receipt signed by a dissident as to how the funds were used. For example, money going to underground publications would be acknowledged by a secret code on one of the pages.
Using its covert monies, the students began to buy t-shirts, stickers, leaflets that bore its emblem of a clenched fist. Soon the clenched fist of Otpor appeared on walls, postal boxes, cars, the sides of trucks and statues. The students painted red footsteps on the ground to symbolize Milosevic’s bloody exit from parliament and passersby found thrust into their hands cardboard telescopes that described a falling star called “Slobotea.” They also used public relations techniques including polling leafleting and paid advertising. As days went on recruitment was expanded and new assets acquired and in cities like Banja Luka in northern Bosnia in Pristina in Kosovo, and in the provincial cities of Serbia, activity was mounting to a climax All the beatings of crowds, the disbanding of political parties, the fixing of the 1997 elections, the dismissal of honest Serb officials, the snubbing, the humiliating defeats, the arrogant indifference of Milosevic had been piling up, generating a pent-up violence that was going to be discharged in one shattering explosion of revolt.
The money trail expanded. Regarding the funding of certain persons or groups, the agency took pains to use false flag recruitments – acting through intermediaries to get new agents while the CIA pretended that its own agents came from other countries. Clinton did not want the opposition derided as U.S. lackeys. A participant said to me, "I don’t think a lot of our assets had a sense of working for the U.S. government. It’s a grey area letting them know where their monies are coming from.” In the end, they got over $70 million.
Communications gear came next. The dissidents had to be supplied advanced CIA equipment such as Inmarsat scrambler phones to organize a command, control and intelligence, (C3I) network so they could remain underground and stay a step ahead of capture. Training for specific opposition leaders and key individuals was given U.S. assets within Serbia whose purpose was to serve as the eyes and ears for key dissident as well as to provide funds and security.
By now Otpor had developed a crisis committee to coordinate resistance that enabled networks from different regions to keep in close touch. All branches of U.S. intelligence were going to provide an early warning system for the students. The NSA and the CIA Special Collections Elements in neighboring countries had hacked into Slobodan’s key security bureaucracies and were reading Ministry of Internal Affairs' orders for police raids against the demonstrators. This intelligence was passed to the dissidents who gave advance alerts to Otpor cells which allowed them to disperse and avoid arrest. By now the student group even had a committee to deal with administrative tasks such as lining up new safe houses, cars, fake IDs. As the campaign to dethrone Milosevic went on, the money and activities grew more and more quickly with more than $30 million from the U.S. alone.
There were now seventy thousand Otpor students in 130 groups with twelve regional offices, and the Otpor leaders had been schooled in non-violent techniques designed to undermine dictatorial authority. They were using a handbook, From Dictatorship to Democracy: A Conceptual Framework for Liberation,” written by Gene Sharp. Chapters were copied and handed from cell to cell throughout the country. He said in an interview that his non-violent method “is not ethical. It is not pacifism. It is based on an analysis of power in dictatorship and how to break it by withdrawing the obedience of its citizens and the key institutions of society.”
In the meantime, the United States and Britain and others were seeing to it that Serbia felt more and more encircled. Covert operations continued and gained momentum as meetings were held in Szeged in Hungary, in Croatia, in Ulm, Germany, and in Montenegro. In addition to Hungary, the U.S Embassies in Bulgaria and Romania were involved as well. The Clinton presidency was now involved in establishing a new, anti-Milosevic elite in Serbia.
In the end, of course, Milosevic fell from power in 2000. In Clinton’s view, the huge debts of blood Milosevic had run up during his campaigns of aggressive war, massacre, rape and plunder had to be paid in full. Milosevic had already been indicted as a war criminal before the Dayton talks, and after he returned to his fortified house in 2001, the new President George W. Bush carried out the Clinton plan to carry out a plan established by the CIA, the U.S. Army and U.S. Special Forces. In the end, Bush sent in SEAL Team Six, acting on a plan set up in the headquarters of EuroCom, the U.S. Army in Stuttgart, to capture Slobodan and send him to The Hague. That story should be told, but not here.
Milosevic was a truly evil, heartless, merciless man. His greed for power was unbounded and his reign was one of predatory massacres, institutional corruption, abuse, exploitation.
By the time of the Dayton talks, after nearly four years, there were 250,000 killed, two million refugees, and there had been atrocities that had appalled the word. In interview a UN woman who was the first US official to get new of the Srebrenica massacre when a man with a bullet graze, appeared to tell her his story, resulting in an urgent telegram to the State Department.
But talking recently to former CIA and other intelligence officials, they see nothing in the Ukraine that provides any reasonable pretext to whip up ignorant mobs there who talk democracy but who behave like thugs. A former deputy chief of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, once a backer of NED, now sees it with distrust, its ambitions “too imperial,” manifesting the U.S. obsession with meddling with other countries internal affairs. Remember what Sharp said of his program, ““is not ethical. It is not pacifism. It is based on an analysis of power in dictatorship and how to break it by withdrawing the obedience of its citizens and the key institutions of society.”
Were such methods required in the case of the Ukraine? You tell me.
buckwheat
Thanks for the writeup.
On CIA covert "case officer types" that come out of their careers with a pension to speak about "what they did" when they were working there and how "it has all changed for the worse"? Not the CIA I use to work for...
All I can tell you is that they are (in most cases at least) born pathological liars that go to Washington to learn how to perfect those skills to become "the best" pathological liars with a lifetime career at being a sociopath without antisocial behavior. Even when they tell you the truth it's life Aesop's "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" you will always doubt them and their credibility given where they came from. You can't spend 20 or 30 years in a place like that and ever really turn the corner, and if you did your story would probably never be told.
After all. When was any of it really anything other than protecting our own strategic self-interests at the rest of the Worlds expense even before the Dulles Brothers changed the name?
The UN prosecutor's office at the war crimes tribunal in The Hague had put the number of dead at ~ 110,000.
Mirsad Tokaca, who led the Bosnian project, said the figure of 97,207 could rise by a maximum of another 10,000 due to ongoing research.
According to the research, 25% of the dead were Serbs and more than 8% Croats.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6228152.stm
After the Bosnia War 1992-95, there were three Muslim insurgencies: Kosovo 1998-99, Preševo Valley (1999-2001) and Macedonia (2001)
The US and UN, then and now, support the Muslims. The Orthodox Russians and Slavs support fellow Christians.
if 25% of Americans think the earth revolves around the sun how in the world could they be worried about a place like Crimea? Let's get back to caveman basics here. This year Mexico beat us out on health care and we just handed the Ukraine a billion dollars only to have sucked into the black hole of political chaos. What a bunch of criminal morons we have running this county.
The earth revolves around the sun..... when did that happen???
Shortly after the Big Bang.
(shortly being a relative term in this case)
Shortly after the Big Bang.
(shortly being a relative term in this case)
The universe revolves around the richest family on the planet.
joego, I think you meant to say: "73% of Americans believe in angels."
Whatever is going on was discussed in length behind closed doors at Davos, and earlier at the Bildeberg. The .1% made a roadmap for 2014 and positioned themselves accordingly.
A few of them are very pissed they haven't made it to trillionaire status yet. With one more market wipeout and "recovery" they'll be there.
The multinationals control world governments, not the other way around. Somebody needs to hide massive losses and others aren't happy with what they have. This crisis will consolidate power even more.
LISTEN YOU FREEDOM LOVING PUNKS.
WE NEED THOSE OSCE GUYS IN HOW THE FUCK CAN WE FERMENT NEW UPRISINGS WITHOUT ARE FRANK KITSON STYLE OPERATIVES IN PLACE.
WE MUST GET IN BY HOOK OR CROOK.
CUM ON SATURN LOVING DEMONIC FREEDOM LOVERS EMBRACE ROTHSCHILD HISTORY.
have faith masonic brothers we can winn this.
russia is on it's knees missiles and planes are made of cardboard.
lets roll
usausausazionusa
It's a fart war.
Whoever has the strongest gas emission will win
This Putin fellow seems nice, let's talk to him some more and reason with him.
- John Podesta
Its not just China, India is taking Russia's side. Thats a lot of people... a lot of gold, a lot of oil demand and a lot of nukes.
The IMF rape of Ukraine is proceeding swiftly, the underwear is off, and it will be interesting to watch just who the beneficiaries are.
As I communicated to you before, the IMF seems to have changed its rhetoric (don't know if that means they changed their policies and demands).
Over a year ago they admitted that AUSTERITY may be counter-productive which is an acknowledgment that their Classical Economic mindset may be finally accepting Keynesian macroeconomic theory.
And then there is that paper that just was published by Ostry and Berg that suggests that wealth inequality is harming productivity and consumer demand. (no duh!) That means the bankers, seeing the collapse of capitalist markets on the near horizon as a result of consumer collapse (the consumer is broke), are finally admitting what many of us have predicted, what Marx predicted.
Just food for thought. THe IMF may be changing.
Don't you say..
@Tyler ... any way you can check this out ... just wondering whether it's a fake .. or not ?
It looks like a Conspiracy Theory site.
i.e. they're probably right ;-)
( Ukraine offically has 36 tons gold reserves )
Ukrainian gold reserves loaded on an unidentified transport aircraft in Kiev’s Borispol airport and flown to Uncle Sam’s vault
News Wire 24
http://newswire-24.com/2014/03/07/4827/
Source : http://iskra-news.info/news/segodnja_nochju_iz_borispolja_v_ssha_strarto...
Google translation :
http://tinyurl.com/p72cod9
TIA
lol 36 tons vaporized
The sad point in this is that, not unlike the origins of WW1, both "sides" seem to want/need a confrontation in order to sustain their legitimacy.
The natural state of man is to forget their past and as often said, 'doomed to repeat.'
People forgot the origins of European conflict, enough people forgot the constence of the Cold War. People will forget the Nazi genocides in time.
This conflict will get only as big as the players want it.
Yet all wars are extensions of resource allocations.
How much money and power do these psychos need?
Maybe all off this is about destabilizing the global NG markets so the US begins to export more. Maybe its another case of Rus irridentism.
Maybe we need to just focus on our families and friends in our local community and circle the wagons, because at least in the US things are not getting better and the current regime needs some crappy never-ending conflict to justify their parasiticness (is that even a word?).
News from MH370 crash
bomb?
Austrian not on Malaysia plane, passport stolen -…
No Italian was on board a missing Malaysia Airlines plane, the Rome Foreign Ministry said on Saturday, despite an Italian citizen being included on the passenger list.
Latest News:
http://tersee.com/#!q=Malaysia+Airlines&t=text
This is an excellent way to fake your own death.
sure. If you know someone willing to take themself out in your place.
@ markar
ever heard MK-ULTRA or its succeeding mind-control programs?
" ... However, the US military and interlligence community were quick to capitalize on these new discoveries. Secret research programmes on electromagnetics have never been made available under the Freedom of Information Act.
In 1974, J. F. Scapitz, a scientist funded by the Department of Defense, had a chilling vision. He sought to combine earlier MK-ULTRA hypnosis studies with emerging microwave technologies. In an outline to the DoD, Scapitz said "It will be shown the spoken word of the hynotist my be conveyed by modulated electromagnetic energy directly into the subconscious parts of the brain". He claimed this could be achieved without emplying any technical devices for 'receiving or transcoding messages'.
For the first time, US agents had the ability to remotely tamper with an individual's mind. Scapitz went even further, claiming that this could be achieved without the target even becoming aware of what was happening.
Since then, little public information has been revealed in scientific literature, following the imposition of the strict security classification. Despite this, significant pieces of information - more usually from non-US sources - continue to be published. What is available paints a bleak picture.
Evidence exists that mind-control and behavious modification technology is presently concealed behind Non Lethal Defense (NLD) initiatives. In annoncement in 1995 that non-leathal weapons - including high powered microwaves and radio frequency devices - are to be 'transited' to the law enforcement sector was met with dismay in some quarters. This joint programme, known as 'Operations Other Than War', opens the way for the military to move into the civilian domain - a move precluded by the American constitution. The stated aim is to more effectively tackle narcotics trafficking, terrorism and other criminal activity.
Many citizens consider this to be a lame excuse. They fear of widespread use of mind-altering technologies, and believe democracy is under serious assault. In the light of past government evilness and abuse, who could blame them???"
Read the rest here.
I don't this situation will end well for the West.
How are the banksters going to do God's work without half the world?
Lots more vacation for Obama because the oligarchs that have taken over the United States of America, the ones that have implemented Stazi and mliitarized the police, have their chosen thinks tankers and Central Bankers scratching their asses because that's where the few brains they have are.
The global Ponzi game doesn't work when someone refuses to play. I guess the question for the oligarchs is how do they get China back in the game? How much more does the west give China for their participation? Are you a chip in the big game?
The US cannot continue to lie if China isn't willing to go along and lie too. The Elders in China may actually be more ethical than the Zionists in Washington, NY and London.
How much more does the west give China for their participation? Are you a chip in the big game?
you get the dancing israelis to give china a 911 and get the bbc to say it was muslims.
with a bit of luck get the timings sorted
you create frank kitson style muslim pseudo gangs all over china creating major and minor instability.
you get edwyn rothschild to threaten them with weather weapons.
plenty can be done.
when you control the cia,mi6 and the mossad
Underneath all the layers of brinksmanship is a foundation of core principles. The Elders in the East want peace and harmony with nature, while the Zionists in the West loathe their humanity so much that they want to destoy it, and themselves. China needs to assert itself more if it wants to survive the west's global holocaust.
Rundown of Ukraine's oligarchs...
http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/ukraine-mist-begins-to-clear.h...
Similar to the situation that emerged in Russia under and after Yeltsin.
And like the painfully obvious facts as to "who" the neocons were, the silence is deafening....
How powerful is a group when discussion of its power is forbidden?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poJ-_80_JWg&sns=em
How is Israel like the Barbary Coast of the 19th Century? I suggest a similar solution to the Israeli problem. When Thomas Jefferson became president he refused to pay tribute and sent a United States Naval fleet to the Mediterranean and bombarded the various fortified pirate cities and ultimately extracted concessions. I love American history before we became the bad guys by allowing the filthy European banking cartels to infiltrate.
When such parties got organized and wealthy, such Infiltration was inescapable, because the Value System (Christianity) has NO DEFENSE built into its fiber.
To use a biological analogy: When a new species enters an ecosystem, for which the Indigenous species has little or no defense against the Invading species, the outcome is curtain: the species with the superior (more Darwinistic) survival strategy will win for a particular environment.
In the case of the US, it was/is a battle of ideologies between a Warrior God (Elohim) and a Hippie God (Jesus). Guess which of the two (and their worshipers) will... "Turn the other cheek", and which of the two will seek "An eye for an eye"? / "Peace, Love, man." / sarc
I speak as an Atheist, caring for neither 'God', neither faith. IMO, both are relics of ancient tribal gods, practiced by people with little to no education (by today's standards and knowledge of math, science and the Cosmos), and of "questionable hygiene" (by today's standards).
IWO, if I don't take the advice or worldview from a high-school kid, who knows WAY more than any of those ancient tribesmen, then WHY would I (or any rational, non-brainwashed person) buy into a Worldview from thousands of years ago?
Even so, as an objective outsider, I see the followers of the Warrior God beating those of the Hippie God. Come to think of it... They already HAVE, given their lofty and leveraged levels of Power, Wealth, Influence and outright Domination/Rule over the followers of the Hippie God in all the lands of the West.
They have now set their eyes (Vision) on the East also, until the words of their God rule true everywhere: "I am a jealous God, and ye shall have no other gods (worldviews) before me!"
This is part of the awakening. If you think America is the prize, then take it. The holocaust guilt crap doesn't work on the Asians. I guess I'll be fighting for someone else.
I don't believe for a second that people generally, let alone a "race" - largely a construct - is inherently good, bad, or otherwise. I also believe most people in any group are basically good.
I therefore reject claims that "The X" did something or are something. My best boss, one of my best friends from undergrad, were of the same "tribe"... I don't think they or my old dentist are in on some global sinister plot.
However, the content of the Koran is, largely, putrid. Torah too. I've read them both, and while I never got into trouble noting the violence in the Koran, it was immediately obvious that only with regard to Jewish writings would pointing out violence, racism, and hate in the text be itself derided 'as' "anti-Semitism."
I called and call bullshit. Doesn't mean I embrace assuming knowledge about someone based on some abstract quality. I like to see what they do in the world. [You also learn about what racism really is when people resent you with extra venom for getting better grades than they did].
What I see is fantastic over-representation of Jews amongst the billionaires and chattering class of the US, Ukraine and Russia - nations in which Jews are not more than 3% [about 0.7% in Ukrained]. Nuland and possibly Pyatt and Feltman are Jewish. Treasury is going to be targeting pro-Crimean independence or Russia-merger people and that department is so disproportionately Jewish I'm quite sure it is common, whispered knowledge inside the beltway.
The point is, it's part of the story. It doesn't involve "The Jews" - but it involves a strangely high number of a group that is a tiny minority in all 3 countries. I don't pretend to know all or even most of the reasons thereof, but watching this flirtation with ww3 commence, I am struck by the total absence of this part of the story from coverage of the Ukraine crisis, except on fringe blogs I trust even less than NBC, CNN, et al.. The question as to whether some or many of these Jewish people are in contact with each other or coordinating as Jews seems eminently reasonable given the ethnocentrism I've observed in American Jews {I dated 2 very cute Jewish girls years ago - when I went out with their friends, their conversations pertaining to Jewishness, or their questions regarding the possible Jewishness of others, became sitcom-like, although in fairness this might have more to do with the vagaries of growing up in Westchester, NY, I don't know}.
I just am drawn to unstories - I am also concerned, in a way, that the MSM will never discuss the identity of the oligarchs... it means chilled speech... it can be done in a way that is matter of fact, even if tracing connections with western politicians and lenders, but, for example, does anyone think that Bernard-Henry Levy says what he says in isolation from his identity as a Jew? Levy is a guy who is Jewish far before he is a human being - a revolting neocon shill who is liberal and humanistic in all areas of life save those that impact, in Likudian terms, the hegemony of the expansionist, colonialist, apartheid Jewish state.
Isn't it fair to ask if Jewish oligarchs who, for example, are heavily involved in Jewish organizations and causes, might be putting their allegiance to their fellow Jews ahead of their concern for their fellow Ukrainians or Russians? Clearly, they have done so - over and over. And surely, a Ukrainian or Russian can steal from their own people as easily as a member of a minority, and have done so, but this does not, in and of itself, mean that we can not look to the motivations of a small minority group, not of the ethnic majority, who exist both in an ethnarchy and trans-nationally, who seem to have managed to capture a wildly disproportionate share of wealth and power in the US, Ukraine, and Russia.
You either think that is a worthwhile topic for discussion [fair discussion] or you do not, but if you do not, I can not imagine that you are either especially honest or intelligent.
Sorry, you cannot convice me that Zionism doesn't exist because you had positive relationships with your boss and dentist. Anyone who is interested can research Talmudic teaching on the internet and find out for themselves the kind of racism that is being taught to children. The most offensive, to me anyway, being the rape of 3 year old gentile girls, and how the girls should be punished instead of the rapists for tempting these perverts. I don't have to get graphic here, but do the research for yourselves. Why don't you ask your dentist or your boss about these practices. Ask them if they reject this book of hate. You may be surprised by their answers. Just do the research. Can anyone tell me one good thing that filthy book has to say about you? Check out the link. Directly from the horses mouth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YSy6ENVAJlY
I have no problem with the Torah. It doesn't get into "detailed" strategies (REFINEMENTS) to destroy the goy like the Talmud. It's more tolerable. The Talmud was probably written during a time of extreme persecution, but don't you think it's time to re-examine the refinements?
you cannot convice me that Zionism doesn't exist
I didn't try to. Re-read my comment. You also use "zionism" incorrectly - a lot. You are way overbroad with it. For example, often you simply mean Judaism or Talmudism, but you use Zionism. I'm serious - look up the definition, and try to use zionism a little more precisely.
I have a problem with the Torah, the Old Testament generally, the Koran, the Book of Mormon and to a much lesser extent the NT. I completely disagree with your assessment- it contains a lot that is vile, xenophobic and supremacist, still adhered to, and sorry, the idea that the ugly parts are only there because mean non-Jews "oppressed" the Jewish people for no reason at all for centuries doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
The anti-semitism came as a result of jewish attitude to the "other" and their supremacism and ethnocentrism. Their very excuse for taking the "Holy Land" from the farming and herding cultures that had occupied it for centuries, recorded in the Bible, is obvious racism and barbarism as soon as you wake up to the fact priest-politicians wrote the thing.
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/02hos.htm
I studied religion a fair bit in my academic past, and never had a problem being negative with Muslims, or Mormons or Catholics, but the Jewish wacky is supposed to be off limits.
Fuck that shit. It's all ignorant bullshit.
@ Kirk2NCC1701
very interesting observation... principally i can't see any wrong in your exposition!
And true such infiltration and domination are quite effective in the West esp. in the USA and less in the East... at the moment!
+100
Chuck and Johnny, i appreciate your insightful discourses too :-)
The real life is unbelievably amazing that many folks refuse to see or admit the many realities, one of them is the "fantastic over-representation" of Jews in filling up the highest positions in all kinds of strategic organizations and institutions in the West in particular in the USA.
People can waste time discussing at great length a lot of trivias but they just won't recognize "the elephant in the room"... human-being, what an imperfect creature
Still fewer dead from the Russian "invasion" of Crimea than the US Capitol Police killed on the steps of the Capitol to standing ovation.*
* I posted that same comment a week plus ago and it still appears to be true
Bollyn on Nuland/Kagan
http://www.bollyn.com/14562/
Pairs well with recent PC Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/06/looting-ukraine-begun/
obama the peacemaker, at least he got the prize to show for
Who here thinks that the Ukraine really has no nuclear weapons? Or that it could not cobble several together?
If Ukraine claimed such ownership...who would take the chance to disbelieve them?
Ukraine made a strategic error in signing that Budapest Memoranda...that is for damn sure.
"Ukraine made a strategic error in signing that Budapest Memoranda...that is for damn sure. "
Ukraine legitimate govt made a fatal blunder for putting trust into the West brokered deceptive negotiations instead of putting Kiev under military's emergency rule to prevent those banskter's funded armed thugs and Nazi supporters from launching a coup d'état!!
They paid hefty prices for putting any TRUST and giving any CREDIBILITY into the well-known deceptive and blatant liars of the ZATO heads!!!
Many stupid heads just repeat the mistakes and not learning from the past!
Just for this matter alone I'll give Putin good credits for not falling into the serpent's venomous words and lies...
The moronic Rep. Peter King from the formerly great state of NY actually said on WOR AM this morning that the US could and should start to sell Ukraine our Nat Gas. And he barely sounded like he believed his own words.
He actually said the people in Nassua County, his district, should pay higher prices for natural gas to help the people of Ukraine. Peter King is a great American. Shame on the people of Seaford, and other towns and villages in the county.
There will be a supply shortage for Long Islanders, and that's ok with you? You're as moronic as King. He already has you paying property taxes up the ass, the highest in the country. You must be a great American too.
In his defense, he is genuinely so stupid he does'nt understand the scripts
his owners give him.
I think he hit his head too many times on a stone in Jerusalem.
Perhaps the IRA should have made him kiss the Blarney Stone instead.
I wonder if the drones are flying over Crimea seeking wedding parties to strike? Perhaps, perhaps not. TOR M2 is pretty effective on drones, Taliban has got no TOR M2 mobile anti aircraft systems, Russia has many, and they are deployed in Crimea. You see, your only salvation in this world is to arm yourself for defense, otherwise Washington will come right in and take what they want. Sadly, this is what the post cold war world has come to, a hyper power on a power trip. This is all good for defense stocks, go long them before they soar out of sight.
"Free world"
- free to have your home or business raided and ransacked without a warrant,
- free to pay any tax, user fee or surcharge we can invent
- free to be groped before taking a flight
- free to be stopped while driving down a road doing nothing wrong
- free to pay required insurance
- free now to be whacked by a drone
- free to be incarcerated for victimless 'crime'.
- free to be jailed for possession of a few particular God's creations
- free to "buy" property that then is regulated and taxed
- free to have your savings inflated away
- free to watch mind-numbing state controlled television news
- free to vote only for the candidates of their choice
- free to live in this great country and live and then die as a debt slave
- free to try to explain to our children why John Corzine is not in prison.
No one is forcing you to do any of those things. You do it because you're scared to do otherwise. You go along to get along, or else you get crushed. You look at yourself in the mirror and believe you're free, so you must be, right?
So, what will France do when they have to deliver the first of three LHD-style ships (hellicopter carriers / assault landing ships) that they are building for Russia?
http://defense-update.com/20140306_vladivostok_mistral.html
Dollars to French shipyards will probably trump.
The answer is simple, as it is obvious: Somebody's Confetti/Fiat Currency has to win -- usually the one with a greater supply/popularity.
That is, until somebody (the losing side) has to resort to backing their currency with something real: Gold!
Asymmetric monetary warfare: Gas for Gold, baby. Gas for Gold. Bitchez!
This retard wants to sell his gold. Any buyers out there?
Guns should be treated as commodities because that is ultimately what gives fiat its value.
Title is misleading. And this may be a "lawful" e.o. - just a stupid one.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-bl...
So it's up to Sec of the Treasury Jack Lew. Parenthetically, like most of Ukraine's oligarchs, Lew is Jewish, the Deputy Secretary is Jewish, and all 3 undersecs are Jewish. A Jewish guy also runs the powerful office of foreign asset control - but it's racist to suggest this looks like signficant over-representation by a small (<2.5%) minority group in all of the key positions in Treasury [and the fed, and irs, and fdic... and office of the us trade rep, CBO, for years and until just recently, the OMB and SEC, the national economic council, council of economic advisors, and on and on.
While this kind of massive over-representation is both indisputible and unique to one group, it is racist to discuss it.
Got it?
Good.
Ok, so clearly, it has nothing to do with the Ukraine/Russia situation, the oligarchs, or the large international banks. Obviously.
"...but it's racist to suggest this looks like signficant over-representation by a small (<2.5%) minority group in all of the key positions in Treasury [and the fed, and irs, and fdic... and office of the us trade rep, CBO, for years and until just recently, the OMB and SEC, the national economic council, council of economic advisors, and on and on."
WOW Johnny Cocknballs, "it's racist to suggest" such real-life and factual and very obvious over representation (domination is more accurate!) of those DUAL-Citizenship holders.... LOL in Murica i must learn to shout out the WHITE color though it's actually BLACK to survive and prosper... akin to adhere to the safe guideline "don't hear, don't see, don't talk...don't ask either"
I do believe the USSA is a giant host being taken over by the parasitic leeches or perhaps the kind of creature portrayed in Sigourney Weaver's Alien sequel...and this hijack has been occuring in the last century or even longer, some even posited that the USSA was the very creation of the parasitic class from the onset!
Ezra Pound (1885–1972) did warn the American people and the world about such hijack many decades ago,..
"The Nomadic Parasites will shift out of London and into Manhattan. And this will be presented under a camouflage of national slogans. It will be represented as an American victory. It will not be an American victory.
Until you know who has lent what to whom, you know nothing whatever of politics, you know nothing whatever of history, you know nothing of international wrangles."
"The monopoly of money, or the restriction of its circulation, is merely a variation of this simple form of monopoly. That is all. The stupid fall into the trap. Wars are provoked in succession, deliberately, by the great usurers, in order to create debts, to create scarcity, so that they can extort the interest on these debts, so that they can raise the price of money (i.e., the price of the various monetary units controlled by, or in the possession of, the same autocrats), altering the prices of the various monetary units when it suits them, raising and lowering the prices of the various foodstuffs when it suits them, completely indifferent to the human victim, to the accumulated treasures of civilization, to the cultural heritage."
An 85 year old man in my neighbourhood did business in Russia and is friends with Putin. Says he's a nice person. Putin visited Canada for 10 days and went to a BBQ at his house. While they were in Niagara Falls they attemted to cross into the USA. Putin got the boot but he can still say he has been to the USA.
Look Russia is turning to Bitcoin as a weapon against Western Bankers.
Still Report #211 – Russia Softens on Bitcoin
Read more at http://www.maxkeiser.com/#dsMjZm4vl09rQXwB.99
The Ruskies have also installed a freaking MINEFIELD on the Crimea-Ukraine border... (which is 11 miles wide)... So GOOD LUCK taking it by force... even the nazis had a very hard time just entering the peninsula...
http://www.novayagazeta.ru/photos/62620.html
Also...
Ukrainian border guards observation plane reported to have come under small arms fire while on patrol near #Crimea.
How dare they deny entrance to a car load of CIA agents! Very unsportsmanlike. You'd think they'd let them in when they saw Ben Afflec and his "film" crew.
Have ZHers actually seen Abby Martin's rant about Crimea? I had just read about it, but just watched it, her remarks were quite brief.
I mean, she sounded like a borderline moron - admitting her ignorance of the specifics but giving us a Yoko Ono-level type dissertation about war not being the answer.
I wonder if Ms. Martin knows that "those who do not possess swords can still die upon them," and that it is the US/NATO which has ceaselessly sought to weaken, encircle, and undermine the Russian Federation, not the reverse.
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/08/explaining-us-hypocrisy-on-ukraine/
{p.s. Consortium News has been onnit. I'd love to see ZH feature stuff from Paul Pillar... smart effin guy...}
She's entitled to her own opinion, but opinions formed out of her kind of cavalier ignorance can't be taken seriously.
Not sure what your point is re: "encircling" the Russian "Federation," since the Russians are playing the same game as US/NATO. Just because the Russians have been losing egregriously since 1991 does not mean that they don't have exactly the same motives as every other great power.
Also, war *is* clearly the answer, as history demonstrates. And for as long as the nation-state system survives, war will continue to be the answer.
Putin has said he doesn't even want a slice of Ukraine, let alone other farther away places. I don't think we should just assume that other powers are going to be as hubristic and psychopathic as the the Ziocon cabal. Putin probably understands imperial overreach, actually studied some history. So no, I don't think Russia has played the same game, but has been rebuilding and getting stronger since the Yeltsin days. This getting stronger is not "losing egregiously", nor is sitting back and watching your opponent make mistake after mistake after mistake. Lets face it Ziocons are just common thieves and murderers, and this evil will mostly destroy itself without Putin having to do much save keeping it outside of Russia. Maybe one day Russia will make big strategic mistakes, but not any time soon I don't think. Everything is stacked against USSA now - most notably lack of productivity, bloated military expenses and ballooning debts.
"Not sure what your point is re: "encircling" the Russian "Federation,"
Really? Then you have some reading to do to be able to comment knowledgeably, don't you?
Thanks Johnny Cocknballs for explaining Abby Martin's rant about Crimea to ZHers here!
I learned it when came across to Liz Wahl's fanfare self-promotional stunt. But frankly speaking, i can care less what's the opinion of some particular cute news hostess so i don't bother to find out the Martin and Wahl things... they are sitting there more due to their physical appeal... lol
better to pay attention to those from William Engdahl, Pepe Escobar, Michel Chossudovsky, Webster G. Tarpley, Paul Craig Roberts and so forth :-)
... fill er up, moar, much moar, please?!?
F. William Engdahl
http://williamengdahl.com/
note: Vlad is well aware of the timeline for some kinda-shit coming down the perverbial (a western style of analinquist double-speak?) hershey highway-- let (the headless horseman Kerry?) us... 'negotiate-in-good-faith', where negotiation in a sovereign's territory is but a word-short of, let us --'come together... all over me', this (eu/ussa)duopoly of perverse onanism! A provocat`ionalism into 'dante's kitchen`entree... a, 'crimean'istic`tartar dish'? Surely a no-vote of chaos?
The 'Hammer', will have none of this. Period!!! There won't be any sarin`gas fiasco's, or who's people shot who, from a renegad(G)ed(?) sniper, too a caucasus jihadist on loan from the eu/ussa!
Camera's rolling with a thousand 'cut'... in the skydrone!?!
jmo
thankyou Tyler
+1 for Engdahl's "new" link :-) previously i'm only aware of his following site: http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/
Perhaps if Putin and China start selling US bonds and then go into the market with a fat check book for gold and silver, we will see some extraordinary events unfold.
Our whole western financial structure is rotten to the core and it on't take much to shake its foundations.
Excuse me sir, do you have change for a 1oz. gold coin that I assure you is authentic.
With respect I think you misunderstand my point. I am not talking about gold and silver coins entering the tills of shopkeepers. I am talking about a move that will crash the banking system when it is revealed once and for all that they do not have sufficient gold to make good on all gold and silver contracts. Just remember, by their own admission they rely on the overwhelming percentage settling in cash at the moment.
I was thinking the same. Simply cancelling Russia's $200bln holding would be asking for trouble, so it would be left to the Fed to intervene and monetize those bonds. That's a shit load of gold, over 4000 tons.
Just need to read his body language. When it comes down to reading one's body language for intel, you know we're fucked.
Peter Schiff and GATA's Bill Murthy: The Real Value of Gold TNR.v MUX GDX GLD RGLD NG.to ABX
It is time to listen and remind ourselves about the real value of Gold and what is coming next with all geopolitical games unfolding at the crucial levels for US Dollar and Gold markets. China is the major subject of conversation here again and Russia is already talking about the asymmetrical retaliation to the imposed by the West sanctions around the Ukraine situation. Gold manipulation can not go foreverwith China buying the record amount of Gold officially and who knows what are the real numbers in its state-level military plan to accumulate Gold for the De-Dollarisation reset? http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/peter-schiff-and-gatas-bill-murthy-r... Koos Jansen: China’s Road To Secret Gold Accumulation TNR.v MUX GLD GDX ABX NG.to RGLD
If Obama starts some shit, he can go fight himself.
Who the fuck cares about europe, let russia have it, its a fucking dump.
We should be making a deal.
USA gets everything under Germany, Russia gets everything from germany up.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
All these countries are irrelevant anyway.
Its like fighting over the swing and the sandbox in a schoolyard.
PS:
There is no way that USA could defeat Russia in a war under this administration, Obama is WAY TOO WEAK OF A LEADER to even be able to approach being able to defeat Russia in a major war or skirmish.
And even if Obama took action or tried to do something, it would fail completely, because Obama sorry to say it, is not intelligent enough to execute such grand endeavors, hes a socialist pot head from Kenya who kissed ass with the Rockefeller and bushes to get into office.
Europe's becoming a bit of a socialist dump for sure, but you are in no position to divide up anything except maybe some rocks of crack.
>>>if Obama took action or tried to do something, it would fail completely...
Certainly it is hard to imagine Obozo as an actual Commander in Chief, involved in an actual war. I'm not sure how many US servicemen are willing to put their lives on the line, to keep the Russian military out of Odessa. Hopefully, none are.
"NATO observors" = Interlopers
Hey, we had OUR way in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya; we know how WELL that all turned out. It's time to chill and let someone else have a turn. Let's just say that it is not our problem and spend some thought, time and effort on issues directly affecting us....
James Conca, long time nuclear promoter, was caught bragging about the high level waste that they put into the WIPP, and he should know, he was the former director of the WIPP independent lab that is funded by DOE.
He was bragging that they have some really hot stuff down in the WIPP cave, over 7 Curie per liter. That is really RADIOACTIVE! If you use the WolframAlpha online calculator, see link
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+curie+to+Bq
That turns out to be 259,000,000,000 Bq
OK, how can you wrap your head around that huge number? Well we know that anything above 100Bq per kilogram is too radioactive to sell as food. A kilogram is 2.2 pounds. So a kilogram of fish would be a large meal.
How many fish at 1 Kilogram each could be contaminated by that small one liter of waste stored in the WIPP? 259,000,000,000 divided by 100 is
2,590,000,000 Fish (that’s 2.59 Billion fish, one for every man on the planet)
Now assuming they have 3000 Barrels of the high level waste? At 55 gallons each. That is 624,525 liters.
Or enough to contaminate
1617 TRILLION fish
How many fish are in the ocean?
Do you know that because WIPP is closed that they are stacking up the barrels in the uncovered parking lot at WIPP?
Hard to believe?
Here is that pronuke site in which James Conca brags about the high level waste…go visit.
http://atomicinsights.com/airborne-radiation-wipp/#comment-74621
Russia ends at the Dneiper. Period.
Ukraine should be split, as it was in past centuries.
Doesn't EU/NATO have enough land / subjects?
This is more nonsense from the Russians and the ZH crew.
So if one invades another sovereign nation where one has a base, and the nation you lease the base from invites inspectors to go onto it's territory to make sure that its troops are safe (even though you invaded and surrounded said native bases), you get to fire warning shots over their heads and this is a 'threat' and 'unfriendly gesture'.
You invade another country and when that country wants to inspect its surrounded troops that is a 'threat'.
This is the same folly that said that if one won't sell something to someone, then the rebuked buyer is justified in taking it by force. I refer to Japan in the 1930's and 40's.
I call, once again, massive bullshit on the Russians and ZH.
It's ok if the Russians are invading oligarchs, but when the Americans do it in Afghanistan and else/everywhere they are subject to withering criticism.
By the way, there's NO such *legitimate* government in Kiev...we're just witnessing a self-installed armed thugs and NAZI supporters giving themselves the delusion of legitimacy under the ZATO stamp.
In fact, the run-away yet people elected president had given permission to Russian troops to get into Ukraine to restore the chaos there.
If only legitimacy/legalistic things serve any meaning nowadays... :-) LOL
How is the weather in Moscow? Spring yet?
More lies and dissemblement straight from The Kremlin, to RT, to your keyboard.
Has Chevron & BP announced the merger yet?
What comes around goes around.
Before:
US used arms race to bankrupt former USSR.
NOw:
China is attempting to develop " advanced" weapons to remove the advantages of "advanced" US weapons, which forces US to spend the fortune it doesn't have to research even more " advanced" , which in turn will bankrupt the Us. Wait, even without this, us is already bankrupted....
"China is attempting to develop " advanced" weapons to remove the advantages of "advanced" US weapons, which forces US to spend the fortune it doesn't have to research even more " advanced" , which in turn will bankrupt the Us. Wait, even without this, us is already bankrupted...."
@ straightershooter,
may you pls be more specific about what kind of "advanced" weapons that China is "attempting" to develop? some link to back up the said thing?