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Fukushima Radiation To Reach West Coast Next Month
Over the past three years there has been endless debate over whether the Fukushima radioactive fallout is hitting the US west coast, or if, as the media spin would have it, it is largely isolated, and best to just take their word for it for the simple reason that no federal agency currently samples Pacific Coast seawater for radiation. The answer may finally be in sight, and it is not a pleasant one: USA Today reports that "very low levels of radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster likely will reach ocean waters along the U.S. West Coast next month, scientists are reporting. Current models predict that the radiation will be at extremely low levels that won't harm humans or the environment, said Ken Buesseler, a chemical oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who presented research on the issue last week.
Hopefully these "models" are better at forecasting than the Fed's (which are operated by three supercomputers), and the definition of "minimum" hasn't undergone the same material revisions as did "maximum" in the context of the maximum permitted radiation dose falling on Tepco workers in the days when Japan desperately was lying every day about the magnitude of the radioactive disaster. Obviously, it is one thing to make up predictions for the sake of avoiding a panic, it is something entirely different to have empirical data: "I'm not trying to be alarmist," Buesseler said. "We can make predictions, we can do models. But unless you have results, how will we know it's safe?"
As if Buesseler doesn't know that any actual data that reveals alarming results will be seasonally adjusted, and then all excess radiation will be blamed on the "harsh winter weather."
Mockery of economists and other idiots aside, here are the facts on the prevailing models:
There are three competing models of the Fukushima radiation plume, differing in amount and timing. But all predict that the plume will reach the West Coast this summer, and the most commonly cited one estimates an April arrival, Buesseler said.
A report presented last week at a conference of the American Geophysical Union's Ocean Sciences Section showed that some Cesium 134 has already has arrived in Canada, in the Gulf of Alaska area.
Cesium 134 serves as a fingerprint for Fukushima, Buesseler said.
"The models show it will reach north of Seattle first, then move down the coast," Buesseler said.
The good news:
By the time it gets here, the material will be so diluted as to be almost negligible, the models predict. Radiation also decays. Cesium 134, for example, has a half-life of two years, meaning it will have half its original intensity after that period.
Or rather, make that the spin: after all as the paper notes, West Coast states are winding down their tsunami debris response efforts. "Oregon's coastline is seeing less debris from the tsunami this winter than in the past two years, Oregon State Parks spokesman Chris Havel said. If that doesn't change, officials likely will disband a task force that was mobilized to deal with the debris. Last year, Washington suspended its marine debris reporting hotline."
One can be certain that no amount of reality, or radioactivity, will be allowed to spoil the budgeted plans that involve a return to normalcy even as the Fukushima power plant is nowhere near contained today, than it was the day after the historic catastrophe from March 2011.
And in case that is not yet clear, here is exhibit A: a Reuters report on Fukushima children that assigns increasingly abnormal pathologies not on the fallout from the Fukushima explosion but, get this, on their staying indoors!
Some of the smallest children in Koriyama, a short drive from the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, barely know what it's like to play outside -- fear of radiation has kept them in doors for much of their short lives. Though the strict safety limits for outdoor activity set after multiple meltdowns at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant in 2011 have now been eased, parental worries and ingrained habit mean many children still stay inside.
And the impact is now starting to show, with children experiencing falling strength, lack of coordination, some cannot even ride a bicycle, and emotional issues like shorter tempers, officials and educators say.
"There are children who are very fearful. They ask before they eat anything, 'does this have radiation in it?' and we have to tell them it's okay to eat," said Mitsuhiro Hiraguri, director of the Emporium Kindergarten in Koriyama, some 55 km (35 miles) west of the Fukushima nuclear plant. "But some really, really want to play outside. They say they want to play in the sandbox and make mud pies. We have to tell them no, I'm sorry. Play in the sandbox inside instead."
You see, the falling strength, the lack of coordination, and the behavioral changes three years after the explosion, are all due to children not being allowed to play in Fukushima's spilling over radioactive cooling water, where as of a month ago, record amounts of Cesium were recorded. Nothing to do at all with slightly "abnormal" levels of alpha, beta and gamma radiation in the air.
This continues:
"Compared to before the disaster, you can certainly see a fall in the results of physical strength and ability tests - things like grip strength, running and throwing balls," said Toshiaki Yabe, an official with the Koriyama city government.
Hiraguri said that stress was showing up in an increase of scuffles, arguments and even sudden nosebleeds among the children, as well as more subtle effects.
"There's a lot more children who aren't all that alert in their response to things. They aren't motivated to do anything," he said.
Yes: the nosebleeds and the lack of alertness too are not due to the radiation, but all entirely due to being kept away from it. We suppose the proper advice here is: to avoid sudden nosebleeds, short tempers, and falling strength, let you children run like the wind, if possible into the Third reactor's cooling tanks.
One really can't make this pathetic, deadly BS up.
So keeping in the theme of this lunacy, and coming soon to a Orwellian banana dictatorship near you: the poor will be taxed more, because it is their fault they did not invest the money they don't have, in Glorious Bernank's attempt to make everything better for everyone. Remember: the Chairsatan was just paid in one hour more than in one full year at the Fed to reveal that "his natural inclination would be to try to help the average person."
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This just in - we're fucked.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
au contraire. The glue has anti-carcinogenic properties*. Sniff on.
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LOL very low levels, how about HIGH levels of radiation via microparticles of plutonium, uranium and a bunch of other isotopes that were released into the air from the nuclear meldown that penetrated the reactor vessel, all those tiny airborne particles took a fast ride on the the jet stream and have settled into the lungs and digestive tracts of a lot of Americans a long time ago.
And how would they know that if nobody is actually measuring the levels? The half life of many of the nastier isotopes is 30 years and up. Maybe justice will come to "Surfer Dude" after all?
Good point. Even for the other stuff, the last time I checked "half-life" means it's only half as deadly after x years. The half-life of an AK-47 is however many rounds are in it, divided by two.
Does that method of calculation explain why DHS bought so many Hollowtips?
Si, as Eric Holder might say.
West coast raidated skateboarding. Glow in the dark would be cool. Hole in your face will not be cool.
Any desal plants in California?
Next I-Phone to feature a mini G-counter for West Coast residents? They'd sell a shitload...
There's one being built in Carlsbad right now, probably another couple years til it goes online.
yer "Look at me, I have < . . . > 3 eyes"
Green glowing sushi kicks ass. Bastards.
Yes, I saw the article...USA, page 52, 5th column down at the bottom of the page.
Good points as always Rand! What many people fail to understand is the difference between being radiated externally by a source. Very low levels of this type can do little harm at all, thus dilution is great. BUT, particles that can be inhaled or eaten, Oh, that is a different thing. No matter how diluted a particle cloud, it only takes a single particle inhaled to sit in your body for years hitting the cells right around it with radiation until it triggers that one single cell to mutate into cancer. Thus plutonium is perhaps the greatest poison we know of, as only a few particles per person can set off a wave of cancer.
The real problem is that TEPCO and Tokyo are lying and covering up the real extent of releases. We have NO IDEA what was, is and will continue to be realeased. 3 cores have melted through containment, and god knows how much spent fuel was blasted out in the three hydrogen explosions.
The worst that I can see is the ground water contamination via the three melt downs. These are raw core materials leeching into the ground water. Then there is all that daily cooling water pouring over cores to prevet further melt down.
The biggest joke I ever heard in my live was the day CNN had breaking news out of Fukushima that all the cores had been placed in safe cold shutdown! Ha! What a laugh.
Other than that, honorable Mrs. Lincolnshima, how was the play?
Half-life refers to the amount of time it takes for half of the radioactive material to decay, not how "deadly" it is. A really short half-life means that the material typically decays before you have a chance to come into contact with it. A really long half-life (U235, U238) indicates a slow rate of decay, and the total radiation dose will be low for a human life span. Intermediate half-life (Pu238) is the most problematic.
Half-life - the time it takes for half the quantity of a given element to decay into the next element in the series, which MAY or may not be radioactive .. LEAD is the final step in the sequence for Uranium for instance ...
Independent says: "LOL very low levels, how about HIGH levels of radiation via microparticles of plutonium, uranium and a bunch of other isotopes ... "
Sniffing the ocean again? Those compounds you list are pretty standard fare in the ocean anyway ...
Radiation doesn't disseminate evenly so saying it will be low levels is misinformation. Radiation travels in condensed pockets, or strains. Fish and sea life are already dying by the millions, though the "low levels of radiation" arent even here.
This is because streams have already arrived and are killing whatever crosses its path. You can take a reading in one place which shows no radiation while 50 ft away could be off the chart.
" Fish and sea life are already dying by the millions, ... "
That's normal; how many fish DIE in the ocean on any given day? (Ans: Billions)
(IOW you made a tautological statement.)
Ora Noe...
Youra donga goin too glowa!!!
mr busseler is a twat, woods hole is partnered with the DOE; not to mention the models dont account for the full 3 year release. ongoing release i mean.
all lies
You know who else is fucked?
I was looking around the WIPP accident site in NM, and guess what the nearest downwind population center is?
Midland, TX. WHO LIVES IN MIDLAND TX???
And folks wonder why there is no admission of how bad the Valentine's Day Plutonium Puff was (or is, considering no humans can enter the contaminated site a month later).
Somebody is in deep, deep, doo-doo.
"Somebody is in deep, deep, doo-doo."
Homo Sapiens.
Was it a proven plutonium particulate release? If so, that is the worst shit possible, dispersal doesn't help, actually makes it worse, like I said above.
Jim in MN pens: " I was looking around the WIPP accident site in NM, and guess what the nearest downwind population center is? "
Are you conflating several issues? On purpose maybe? Are you actually aware of what took place at WIPP? Even remotely?No. No. And yes. Also yes.
Bullish!
Does anyone else remember reading this article from 2009? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3748014,00.html
"The experiment's results were dramatic: 70% of the monkeys that did not receive the cure died, while the ones that survived suffered from the various maladies associated with lethal nuclear radiation. However, the group that did receive the anti-radiation shot saw almost all monkeys survive, most of them without any side-effects. The tests showed that injecting the medication between 24 hours before the exposure to 72 hours following the exposure achieves similar results."
I wonder how much more they know now?
P.S. I truly think we are screwed. If they have a pill, it's not for us. Anyways I just wish they would just get the show going, I'm tired of wating for the next shoe to drop. Three deaths due to cancer this month, I'm actually becoming numb
Their stock (Nasdaq:CBLI) price has crashed. Maybe it is a buy.
Entolimod (CBLB502) Biodefense
"Entolimod (CBLB502) is in development as a countermeasure against death following total body irradiation. Acute radiation syndrome (ARS) results from radiation exposure, for which there are currently no FDA-approved treatments."
"Efficacy of Entolimod (CBLB502) as a radiation countermeasure has been assessed in animal models. These studies demonstrate that a single administration of Entolimod (CBLB502) given either before or after lethal total body irradiation leads to significant improvement in animal survival. We showed that Entolimod (CBLB502) reduces radiation damage to both hematopoietic (HP) and gastrointestinal (GI) tissues and improves tissue regeneration."
"We completed two clinical studies that involved administration of a range of doses of Entolimod (CBLB502) in 150 healthy human volunteers. Both studies demonstrated that administration of Entolimod (CBLB502) appears to be safe within a certain dose range."
We are fucked, and it's so true. They did research on radiation and the oceans ability to dilute it, they say it's possible but others have commented that the govt. report on that was classified. I think that the ocean is just like the air and the land, radiation can contaminate to the point that it can't be diluted. Also Plutonium is a man made and doesn't occur naturally in the environment.
A small town in Alaska will be taking samples very soon, if not already, and will be posting the results to this website (see article): http://sewardcitynews.com/2014/02/fukushima-fallout-what-can-seward-do/
I like Seward, beautiful place! Sounds like locals are going to act in their own self interest instead of relying on the great Washington Corporate Whore House!
"This just in - we're fucked."
If any of those spent fuel rods over at Fuki get a taste of fresh air and spontaneously combust, then we'll be way beyond just fucked, or even FUBAR. It will be an extinction event....and we will all enter the world of "On The Beach".
Jeeeze!
Even if my secret bunker had a lead lined roof, excellent rad scrubbing air intakes
And a mildly overpressure atmosphere --
I STILL wouldn't want to live in the fucker for 30 YEARS!
...there's always a bottle of whiskey, a pistol, and an open field, I guess.
If USA Today says it's coming next month, then it already came last year.
I thought it was supposed to be here last month
Yea, whatever happened to the floatsum that was as big as Maine, did California land a team of Latino's on it and claim it yet? Calishima.
I'm kind of curious how the debris came and went a year before the radiation contamination. All I know is that I haven' been and won't be eating WestCoast shell fish for another half life or two.
Anyone hear about the dissappearing starfsh?
http://www.newsmax.com/SciTech/starfish-deaths-west-coast/2014/02/01/id/550330
Starfish aren't soft and cuddly so who gives a shit..........??
And a year prior to that (Feb. 2012), sea urchins were dying off around Hawaii.
http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/large-scale-die-off-of-sea-urchins...
Sea Urchins found dead at Hawaii February 2012
Star Fish / Sea Stars found dead on west coast August / September 2013
"And a year prior to that (Feb. 2012), sea urchins were dying off around Hawaii."
Right. Chalk it up to, um, yeah - radiation. Never mind any other factors that may be operative.
Anyone else get the feeling we are 'devolving' from making use of our minds to pure animal impulses - like fear - as the internet grows in prominence?
Shades of the 'Tower of Babel" I would say.
Funny, I did not mention radiation or Fukushima in my original post, neither did the article from 2012.
So, who is "using animal impusles" again?
By implication or inference; check out the title of this thread again ...
Mysterious cluster of birth defects in Washington state stumps doctors
"They went through hospital and doctors' records in a three-county area and found 23 cases of anencephaly from January 2010 to January 2013. Such a finding meant a rate of 8.4 cases per 10,000 live births -- four times higher than the national average of 2.1 cases per 10,000 live births."
"For months, Andrea Jackman has been expecting a call from the Department of Health. While pregnant, Jackman lived in the Yakima Valley, an agricultural area in south-central Washington. Her daughter, Olivia, was born in September with spina bifida, which, like anencephaly, is a neural tube defect the state is also tracking."
"She says she's incredulous and outraged that state researchers haven't called to ask questions... ."
"'What are you researching if you haven't physically called the families to find out?' she asks."
Google anencephaly and Hiroshima.
1) No other factors have been considered (very poor research).
2) Wide-ranging conclusion erroneously based on a "case sample of one".
3) No direct cause-effect relationship established.
Highly radioactive: 1,000 gallons of nuclear waste leak in Washington state every year
"Six tanks at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation are leaking an estimated 1,000 gallons of nuclear waste each year."
"The Hanford Nuclear Reservation, which was established in 1943 as part of the Manhattan Project, is mostly decommissioned but still holds two-thirds of the nation’s radioactive waste in its 177 tanks. The millions of gallons of radioactive material, which still remain from Cold War-era plutonium production, are highly dangerous and are quickly dripping into American soil."
"The government estimates that already 1 million gallons of radioactive liquid have leaked from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation... ."
"The radioactive waste contains the most dangerous chemicals known to man, including plutonium, enriched uranium, nitric acid and solvents."
"Leaks were discovered years ago, but the Department of Energy said the problem had been solved when it was initially discovered in 2005."
It was posted here, AND on MSM, more than a month ago...
Everyone is numb from the Ukraine WW3 headlines, the Hedge interns were told to ease back and recycle some of the lesser problems facing mankind...
The hot/cold/wet/dry/windy/calm polar-kotex-global-warming-monetary-policy-can-solve-everything thingy held it up off Hawaii so Dear Leader could go swimming on Christmas.
This time its for reals! ;-)
common in the water is fine
You just described every fat kid in my town.
Thanks Big Ag, Inc. USA. USA. USA!
LTER - "Big EGO".
Bullish!
Very low levels.... Got it, "the models" are not worried, party on.
Glad I got half of the Mexican population as a buffer. Let me know when they all got nine eyes in Cali.
Free sterilization on the West coast.
(1) One Liter of the hot waste they stashed into the WIPP is radioactive enough to contaminate over 2 Billion Fish
From the Nuke Pro
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/
James Conca, long time nuclear promoter, was caught bragging about the high level waste that they put into the WIPP, and he should know, he was the former director of the WIPP independent lab that is funded by DOE.
He was bragging that they have some really hot stuff down in the WIPP cave, over 7 Curie per liter. That is really RADIOACTIVE! If you use the WolframAlpha online calculator, see link
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+curie+to+Bq
That turns out to be 259,000,000,000 Bq
OK, how can you wrap your head around that huge number? Well we know that anything above 100Bq per kilogram is too radioactive to sell as food. A kilogram is 2.2 pounds. So a kilogram of fish would be a large meal.
How many fish at 1 Kilogram each could be contaminated by that small one liter of waste stored in the WIPP? 259,000,000,000 divided by 100 is
2,590,000,000 Fish (that’s 2.59 Billion fish, one for every man on the planet)
Now assuming they have 3000 Barrels of the high level waste? At 55 gallons each. That is 624,525 liters.
Or enough to contaminate
1617 TRILLION fish
How many fish are in the ocean?
Do you know that because WIPP is closed that they are stacking up the barrels in the uncovered parking lot at WIPP?
Hard to believe?
Here is that pronuke site in which James Conca brags about the high level waste…go visit.
http://atomicinsights.com/airborne-radiation-wipp/#comment-74621
WIPP amount released
Best (realisitic) estimate:
http://fairewinds.org/media/fairewinds-videos/whats-leaking-nuclear-wast...
Worse (realistic) estimate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC53BHyblqg
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.nl/2014/03/alert-cermc-backs-off-assert...
yeah it's bad. WIPP transuranics (heavier than Ur) are nasty nasty.
Yeah, PLutonium and Americium are the two most common, and they stick around a long time, say 100 generations. The gift that keeps on giving.
Theymeasured 46 Bq, and then reduced it to .64 Bq. this was after the releae, and they claimed the rest was "background" pimps and criminals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTJlkEE3edo
It's always the last thing you'ld expect.
Family is your trusted friends, not your domicile.
The beautiful minds at Z/H never cease to amaze me. In a good way
The larger, more dangerous portion of Fuku fallout arrived via the jet stream 4 days after the meltdowns and has continued ever since. Been constant steaming, and a few nasty fuel fires that went unreported. On top of the initial explosions of course, notably #3, which doesn't look much like a steam or hydrogen explosion to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3ljfLvHww
Jet stream swoops right over FD and screams east at speeds up to 275mph. Whole of N America got some, some areas worse than others.
Maybe that's what got that Malaysian airliner.........
Yep, Fuku 3 was a nuclear exploson, here is the proof
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/12/fukushima-was-nuclear-explosion-here-is.html
The proukers want to pretend, and lie
thanks
Couldn’t happen to a better set of Liberals. They can declare the nuclear fog bank as Climate change.
Minor Threat -Stumped
Will the fallout affect the state's weed producers?
Only on Sundays. Utah style
LOL Glow in the Dark ganja
The Andromeda Strain
One of the joys of living at the ocean here on the West Coast is the occasional red-tide ocean glow in the evenings. Once or twice a year the plankton would create dazzling phosphoresence when the waves would crash ashore. Now it looks like it will be glowing all the time. Should be quite a tourist attraction.
Do not eat oysters in months without R in them, or any of the other months either........
Nastiest thing about these radioisotopes is that the damage they cause is passed down genetically. Heart defects, brain defects, cancer genes, and a thousand others we don't know about yet.
Let me know when it hits Upstate NY...
Time for some Hollywood giant radioactive squid movies - I'm getting tired of vampires and werewolfs - time for a change.
I can avoid swimming the the beautiful california coastline, but I try not to think about radiation when I eat a tasty salmon with blackond seafood seasoning cooked in extra virgin olive oil. I remember the ZH pictures of sickly radiation burned salmon and other fish off of alaska about 6 months ago. So in the Matrix do I tke the Red pill or the blue?
Some minute amount of radiation on the west coast will only affect imbeciles and free the beautiful Oregon beaches from their presence. In the 50s, 60s and 70s the USA and USSR showered the world with radioactivity so much so that you can date your old wines from this period based on the radionucleides it contains. Few people have died from these fallouts.
Around Fukushima, that's quite another story. The water table is now highly polluted which means that the area around the power plant is probably sealed forever. Likewise, the sea around Fukushima although 100 km below, where I live it is fine. As for the cities of Fukushima and Koriyama, I simply do not understand why people stay there. Radioactivity is most certainly low enough to stay but not to raise children. I perfectly understand that the government wants to avoid creating a panic but people should nevertheless be, quietly, advised to live.
"Few people have died from these fallouts."
Just because you're not dead from it doenst meant you're HEALTHY
True enough. Then I have a question: Half the people in the US are obese and in many cases this will condamn them to die from diabetes which is not a "fun" way to end your life. They could do something about it but they don't. When it comes to radiations where you can do absolutely nothing about it, there seems to be a consensus that "we" must do something about it. What gives?
The answer I am afraid is quite simple. People want action whenever it requires zero effort from them and will do exactly nothing when it does. This explains why they are against nuclear energy but request cheap electricity. The two do not work well together as Europe is slowly learning. This said, although I used to be in favor or nuclear energy I am much more cautious nowadays. Clearly, the potential costs can be very high and few utilities include these in the price of the output.
They’ll be picking out their hair to find answers.
A young girl's life gets turned upside-down in this tragic second a day video
Dear Obama,
Make sure you impose sanctions to create the next level of poverty on the new global scale. The One Digital Currency System becomes easier for you to implement. Coughs, SDR
I honestly don't know how you can wake up every morning and live with your actions.
Sub prime radiation is well contained and shouldn't affect the West coast as a whole.
-EPA Bernanke
EDIT: I strangely recall that someone said when it gets serious you have to lie. :scratcheshead:
"fear of radiation has kept them indoors" No vitamin D from sunlight, and possibly not getting it from fish liver. What effect might D deficiency + radiation have on health?
"very low levels of radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster likely will reach ocean waters along the U.S. West Coast next month, scientists are reporting."
Mmmk. It's much worse already, guaranteed. Just like subprime was contained; the Mexican government would not devalue the peso during the Tequila Crisis; and Fukushima was not a problem. UNTIL THEY ALL WERE PROBLEMS.
The fact that USA Today is now admitting this says that the evidence is so overwhelming that they can't deny it without looking incredulous.
There goes the market for any wild seafood in the Pacific, just as one reknowned nuclear scientist said a couple months ago to avoid eating it until further studies were done (will try to find link).
"There goes the market for any wild seafood in the Pacific". I'd be more concerned about mercury poisoning - you don't want to end up with "The Mad Hatters Syndrome" like Nancy Pelosi.
There is no save level of ionising radiation. (LNT) The "hormesis" theory is bogus, and that's been proven. Still they're pushing this idea into the public domain.
Our bodes can take short bursts of external radiation, but internal radiation is a problem if it's the wrong isotopes.
Different particles are treated very different by our bodies. Anyone (like Ken Buesseler) comparing Potassium 40 (bananas) wtih Ceasium 134 137 or Strontium 90 cannot be trusted. They're lying on purpose.
"To put this into perspective, the combined dose of 7.7 nSv from these two Cs isotopes is only about 5% of the dose acquired from eating one uncontaminated banana (assuming 200 g weight) and absorbing its naturally occurring 40K (28), and only about 7% of the dose attributable to the 40 KinthePBFT(Table1).More strikingly, the dose from both Cs isotopes is only 0.2% of that attributable to the naturally occurring 210 Po from ingesting the fish (Table 1). Furthermore, in August 2012, PBFT off California were found to have less than half the levels of radioactive Cs than were found in August 2011 (29), which would result in even lower doses to human consumers"
source: http://www.pnas.org/content/110/26/10670.full.pdf+html
He's been called out on this serious lie. http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/news/2013/09/11/73914/fukus...
There's bio-accumulation taking place. Just like our bodies those of animals treat the Fukushima isotopes as if these are innocent building blocks, like Cacium, Iron.
So... this situation will worsen, over time.
Herman J Mueller discovered in 1927 the following: ARTIFICIAL TRANSMUTATION OF THE GENE by radiation (Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1946) There was the Geneva Summit 1955, about the "peaceful" use of nuclear energy. Mueller wanted to present his report in which he had calculated that people in 200 to 300 years - by the current radiation - will have genetic damage as the most affected survivors of Hiroshima. These people, in 10 generations, would have to work only for one thing: To obtain the means to take care of their suffering. This is what Mueller wanted to tell, BUT the AEC (Predecessor of the NRC) gave him no talk permission.
http://books.google.de/books?id=ihDdAWPakwgC&pg=PA155&#v=onepage&q&f=false
Swiss biologist finds genetic damage in contaminated areas (inside Switzerland)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYvPGzgapMs#t=8m22
German and French research proving cancer clusters (leukemia) near (undamaged) nuclear reactors:
http://www.brest-ouvert.net/IMG/pdf/Childhood-leukemia.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892120/
very good info on the IAEA and WHO (World Health Organisation)
interview Alison Katz (former senior WHO official)
http://lhalevy.audioacrobat.com/download/eb5073ca-87ee-356e-9812-2ac8eb4367b1.mp3
Something very fishy going on here.
A 160lb human experiences about six carbon-14 beta decay events per second in their DNA alone. Each event involves a transmutation of carbon to nitrogen and a beta particle with a peak energy of 156keV. The strength of the chemical bonds in DNA is less than 10 eV. That is at least six guaranteed mutations per second. Carbon-14 and tritium are the only radioisotopes that can be incorporated in DNA and thus are the most effective at producing mutations on a per decay event basis. When it comes to internal radiation, all radioisotopes are "wrong," whether they are naturally occurring or the result of human activity. Carbon-14 is continually produced in the upper atmosphere by the interaction of cosmic rays and nitrogen. Tritium is both natural and man-made.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You seem very concerned about radiation, but your first link concludes with:
"Fears regarding environmental radioactivity, often a legacy of Cold War activities and distrust of governmental and scientific authorities, have resulted in perception of risks by the public that are not commensurate with actual risks."
and the second link that you describe as refuting a lie concludes with:
"While the Fukushima release represents a major influx of the material to the natural environment, when it comes to ocean contamination, it still represents little more than a drop in the proverbial bucket. At least for now, except for fish from the immediate area around the Fukushima plant, Pacific Ocean seafood remains safe to eat."
The conclusion of the childhood leukemia article acknowledges that "unknown factors" could be involved:
"Overall, the results suggest a potential excess risk over 2002-2007 that may be due to unknown factors related to the proximity of NPPs. Among the potential factors are population mixing and exposures to physical agents, including natural or man-made exposures to radiation not modeled by the DBGZ."
"When it comes to internal radiation, all radioisotopes are "wrong,".
Of course but our bodies can deal with Potassium 40, it will not be absorbed. http://www.epa.gov/radtown/basic.html
The Ceasium 134 137, Strontium 90 are highly radioactive, and, as said, it's absorbed. It's effect is cumulative.
It's well known that Potassium 40 does not have the detrimental effects.
http://www.currentconcerns.ch/index.php?id=825
As these new, man-made isotopes DO have:
http://chernobyl-today.org/images/stories/Bandajevski_2001_Radiocaesium_...
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v228/n5272/pdf/228667a0.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11005428
No one said "natural radiation" was a good thing. It is something to be avoided as well. That is not contested anywhere, but not mentioned either.
https://www.taz.de/!70237/
For example: the EPA has had substantial programs in place to protect the public from "natural radiation", like Radon. http://www.epa.gov/radon/
The article did refute this lie (banana equivalent dose). I'd say the fear and distrust is indeed not connmensurate with actual risks. I'd say the actual risk, long term is likely to be much greater than we're being led to believe, hence the distrust towards governments. I base that opinion on the fact that Genomic Instabillity progresses over the generations in Belarus and Georgia and other highly contaminated areas (Hanford it's now also showing up).
https://vivretchernobyl.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/presentation-of-rosa-go...
Here's some links that might be interesting to follow up on:
Article on inherited unstable DNA
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1682874/
Ionising radiation as cause for genomic instabillity
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-7643-7378-4_12
Genomic instabillity and cancer:
http://www.nature.com/nrc/series/genomicinstability/index.html
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10555-013-9429-5
Fear does NOT lead to nosebleeds, or dizzyness, or falling strength and lack of coordination:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/japan-fukushima-children-idUKL3...
Nor does fear show up on x-rays:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&i...
Smiling does NOT protect one from the effects of radiation.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4558
I find it absolutely disgusting that this was, and remains the japanese government stance.
Yes, the doses of ceasium 134, 137 are at the moment quite low, in the pacific fish caught off the west coast, not counting migratory fish like Tuna. However... I'd say avoid, because there's no or very little testing being done, there's no safe limit, and there's now substantial contamination found in fish off the coast of Japan (not just near the plant) and in the Phillipines, so it's likely to show up at the west coast as well.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11434-012-5171-6
It bio-accumulates in the oceanic food chain..
This bioaccumulation of ionising radiation particles (in these studies they tested for Plutonium - not from Fukushima) shows up in this research: https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2014/02/27/plutonium-in-fish-and-s...
So the "banana equivalent dose" is hogwash, especially when studying migration and accumulation of particles like Ceasium 137, Strontium 90, Uranium isotopes and transuranics. Dr. Ken Buesseler should know this, and study this, and try to work out WHAT is exactly going to happen, and what part of the eco system in the Pacific will be affected. He should have a look at this model: http://femalefaust.blogspot.nl/2013/08/fukushima-nuclear-pollution-impac...
Instead of confusing the issue with this ridiculous nonsense, he should do his job.. Test and predict impact on our biotope, as is overall testing the job of the EPA (and their Canadian and European counterparts). They're REFUSING to do that.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-fukushima-radiation-contaminating-tuna-s...
In my opinion these people should be held accountable for their work. And if necessary they, or their superiors replaced by those that will do it.
That's the point I tried to make.
The presence of cancer (leukemia) clusters near nuclear powerplants has been proven according to the two studies.
"Unknown factors" are always a factor in this kind of epidemiological research. It is stated that The "population mixing" near Nuclear Power Plants would lead to leukemia clusters, while elsewhere it wouldn't, and this would somehow be proof of the population mixing being the factor of importance? That would make no sense.
So let's see where this (prevailing) idea stems from?
In the U.K. a yet unknown pathogen/infecteous disease is said (by the government authorities) to be the cause, which makes no sense either. However, the U.K. government kept records secret.
Here's that study which I do not agree with at all. I think it's bad science, with assumptions presented as facts. However, buried within is the fact that there are cancer clusters, at multiple locations, some of which are not nuclear related. This would make sense to me, since there are different carcinogens in our environment (dioxins released in the presence of the oil industry, for example) http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v104/n1/full/6605982a.html#PM-near-but...
Here's an epidemiologic study of the cancer cluster near Burnham.
http://www.llrc.org/health/subtopic/burnham.pdf
There were some errors noted in a "Green Audit" study.
http://iopscience.iop.org/0952-4746/28/1/001/pdf/0952-4746_28_1_001.pdf
However, things are not as they should be: There are obvious issues with the government methods and (lack of) testing:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX_lzoYl9AU
No further testing has been planned but the ICRP are not willing to accept the correlation of nuclear contamination and leukemia clusters despite the fact, that it exists, and will ignore any data that doesn't fit their models. They try to "explain" that, because there are other cancer clusters, elsewhere, that is somehow evidence that the cancer clusters in contaminated areas (near Sellafield, etc.) are not caused by this radioactive contamination.
This also is not a logical conclusion.
No wonder there's an increasing distrust towards government.
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I must apologise that I omitted these results in the previous post. That had to do with time (limited).
I hope this made my POV more clear, and that it's of more use to all of you. Please note that I enjoy a healthy discussion, so thank you for the critical reply.
Electro-magnetic radiation, microwave radiation, chemtrails, GMO foods, designer viruses, stuff we're not aware of, and now some Cs 134 to add to the stew. I sure hope some of this shit cancels each other out.
Not to worry, mother Earth couldn't care less that we're poisoning ourselves out of existence. She'll just keep on spinning and heal herself. Awaiting for the next master to scurry around. Most likely insects.
@ Colonel Klink, you've surpassed me on the "cynicism scale"...
I tend to be forward looking. If we keep the current pace of poisoning the planet (ourselves), we have two choices, extinction or space exploration for another planet to pillage of resources.
EDIT: One isn't rocket science, the other is.
I would like the first person, as part of this experiment to be sent to the moon, to be Barry Soetoro. He can live there for the rest of his life.
Thanks but the vacuum of space already exists in his morals and ethics. He most certainly lives in his own world if he truly believes the lies he's been spewing to the world.
I'd settle for sending him back to Kenya. I wouldn't chose to waste any further US taxpayer dollars for another expensive coondoggle.
EDIT: Yeah I said it! Fuck you NSA too!! Add Eric "race" Holder too.
@ Colonel Klink
I was thinking Mars, but I still want to fuck with a few people before I "punch my ticket".
trip kitchen: " Electro-magnetic radiation, microwave radiation, chemtrails, GMO foods, designer viruses, ... "
Pablum; WHICH, of course, you are entitled to ... and to think Marx thought religion was the 'opiate of the people'.
Turns out it is the lame-brained, couch-bound or basement-restricted 'conspiracy industry' ...They are using 'drought' as a cover for California being radiated to death from Fukushima........
Posted by 'A Lunatic' ... figures ... an escapee from logic and reason ...
fucky yucky
the bbc and david attenborough loves it.
in fact the bbc showed the explosion 30 mins before the tsunami hit
edwyne rothschild thinks it is super cool.
rokerfella skank said i came a little when mossad told me the on site bomb news.
the fabians richard dawkins and prince phillip said super they will be dead soon.
the folks in japan pretend it is all gonna be ok as cancer only takes hold of people that think about it.
Gamma radiation, its whats for dinner !!!
HULK SMASH !!!
"Current models predict that the radiation will be at extremely low levels that won't harm humans or the environment"
Yeah, okay ... I'll just trust that they're telling me the truth! EDIT: forgot to include the /sarc tag. stitch doesn't trust anything media 'suggests'.
It does not matter that these 'tools' deem it to be unharmful, the mere mention of radiation ought to set off warning bells in every human brain!! It ain't natural to be irradiated by a crippled nuclear plant thousands of miles away, across an ocean and killing sealife of all sorts along the way.
This is truly a catastrosphe of EPIC proportions !!
If we learned anything from 9/11, it's that the government tends to be less than forth coming when it comes to reporting the effects of toxic fallout on the general population.
fuck the models!! sample the air, soil, vegetation, animals,humans, and water
No shit! What do these experts do?
Sit on the beach and wait? Go find it dopes! Divert some drones or something...duh.
When USA Today is reporting it, you know it can't be completely covered up.
The truth exists! Keep shouting it from the rooftops!
Not to be a dick but this reminds me somewhat of all the doom and gloom surrounding the BP oil spill on here. The comments were about the same as above (fire, brimstone, we are all fucked, etc), but 4 years after the fact and no one could give two shits about it....some bacteria that no one counted on ate the oil or it magically dispersed. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't touch a fish or be anywhere near Fukushima, but the viewpoints on events like this get so rediculous (for the radiation hitting the US shore...I would probably be sharing these views if Fukushima happened in the US and I lived 10 miles downwind).
Yep Corexit magically dispersed it and/or sent it to the ocean floor.
ENENEWS.COM
Meanwhile our own daily radiological headlines from right here in the good 'ol US of A give pause for a WTF?! moment....
“Truly an operational nightmare” at WIPP — Radiation level doubles at location far from leak; Carlsbad monitor jumps around 40% — Residents plead for more info, concerns over safety (MAP)
Gundersen: WIPP whistleblowers say mine collapsed directly on highly radioactive waste — ‘Many’ canisters may have failed — Unfiltered plutonium and americium escaped for equivalent of 30 minutes — Residential areas exposed (VIDEO)
US Gov’t: Never faced challenge like this, but “not giving up hope” at WIPP; Salt from contaminated mine to be sold as feed to dairy farms — TV: “Residents flat out concerned for their safety”; “I want to believe them… but I don’t” — Reuters: ‘Falling slabs’ may have breached waste drums (VIDEO)Translation:
Next month = Already here.
Low levels =we're fucked.
Hopefully these "models" are better at forecasting than the climate change models from 10 and 15 years ago that were wildly.. what's the scientific term.... oh yeah... wrong.
...just working the jab, for the climate douchebag contingent here on ZH.
{ahem}
Here's the thing about the radioactive water and detris.
At first, it's not that bad.
Then it gets much, much worse.
Yes, this ^^^^^
The bolded points in particular.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zVtxxKeOAwc/TX5cv8el76I/AAAAAAAAJuM/lBRyC-QEQ7...
am I living in the same world you are? how can you in good conscience publish these flat out lies and obvious propaganda especially when the internet is full of well documented evidence to the contrary. pull your media manufactured blinders off and realize that on this the 3rd anniversary of Fuku catastrophe that the better part of north america has been under intense bombardment from radiocative elements for the better part of the past three years, not just the "West Coast". this is sickening. shame. USA Today?! You must be kidding. and that is not to speak of the recent mega release of particulate plutonium and americium from the fire and explosion (yes, fire and explosion!) at the WIPP plant commencing on February 14. they're killing us, folks.http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/
Totally off-topic but ....
Yardfarmer, Yardfarmer how does your garden grow?
I am getting so excited about gardening this year! I have a 'garden' area of about 4' x 9' (I'm in an apartment) but have been researching hydroponic gardening and I am thinking I can grow lettuces and some herbs hydroponically on my little deck. In addition to the beans, peppers and assorted flowers that I manage.
I've grown basil always in the 8 years I've been here ... tomatoes are a challenge, sun-wise.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast *_*
I'm no longer envious of those lifeguards in CA that make over 100 grand a year.
Just do what the Europeans did after Chernobyl: personal detoxification with a product developed in the EU to treat victims of nuclear plant meltdowns.
www.vitapect.org
Safety of food is becoming a big concern as our kid is only 2.5 year old. We are cancer reserachers and know the risk very well. A fish company here in Seattle recently did a test on Salmon caught locally and Alaska and found Cesium radiaoactiivty in 2 out of 7 samples. Although there are imported fish from South America here but their coasts are likely also contaminated by the Pacific Ocean current. We can buy prawns from the Gulf of Mexico but not fish. I wonder anyone know how to get fish from the East coast. We cannot eat Maine lobster everyday. We found milk made in Wisconsin and orange juice frmo Florida. No luck with beef although we tried to locate beef from Australia. We suspect chickens may be from the midwest so it is OK.
We are disgusted with the outrageously irresponsible and incompetent Japanese government and their utility industry. The US government is oblivion of the situation as it busy worrying about the people of Ukraine.
Trader Joes has some great Atlantic Cod and Dover sole. We also get farm raised and yes I know about farm raised. Good luck. I lived in Seattle for a little while. It's a great town. Nothing angers me more than kids being screwed. I wish you luck with your little one.
Great, thnks for the information.
I raise range fed, non-antibiotic meat chickens here in the midwest. I am checking into the ability to ship to your part of the country. Hit me up sometime if you're interested.
Yes, very interested. Will be in touch.
Joenobody12: "Safety of food is becoming a big concern as our kid is only 2.5 year old. ... "
AND I'll bet youi don't even own a Geiger counter ... and no plans to buy one either! Let the fear and loating continue then ...LOL. We run a biotechnology company and have several Geiger counters in the lab but they are not suitable for testing Cesium.
... then buy a better sensor head (pancake etc), or a better 'counter' which will accomodate something (different sensor heads) that read Alpha and Beta particles besides just the usual Gamma ...
Geiger tubes are not the be-all and/or end-all of sensors ... some of the scintillation crystals with attached photomultiplier tubes are downright cheap.
Thank you for not replying to my negroism post earlier. Unlike you, many white serfdoms Americans can see your elected efforts by the Central Banking unit. A fucking Negro is to install a new banking system under morals and politically correct communist terms? Good luck with that. Take a gander on the present resistant in the global community. You have the middle finger looking you in the eye Obama. At the end of the day, you will be just known as a Kenyan Nigger working to expand the BIS banking Cartel.
The whole Fukushima thing was just an elaborate stunt, as part of a viral media campaign for the upcoming Godzilla remake.
Dave Chappelle Blackzilla
Yay Zerohedge still links articales, that speaks about radiation like it would be a ghost.
to paraphrase the Beach Boys "oh, west coast girls are really hot...
Surf's up dudes!
Tubular! Golwing...tubular!
I think you're wrong. I think this another Three Mile Island, which if you recall, was so bad that Hollywood, playing off the hysteria, was able to crank out a hysterically-awful movie. Called "China Syndrome." Starring Jane Fonda. Check it out, lol....
At TMI the containment was able to withstand, as opposed to Fukushima. And because I recall so well, let me tell you that "The China Syndrome" was released before the TMI-accident.
Jane Fonda is a communist backing fucking cunt!!!
Jstanley011: " I think you're wrong. I think this another Three Mile Island, which if you recall, was so bad that Hollywood, playing off the hysteria, was able to crank out a hysterically-awful movie.... "
Some fact checking is in order - The China Syndrome came out BEFORE the TMI #2 accident ...Another factoid: The 'event' that triggered the TMI II accident ocurred 1 year and about 3 SECONDS to the date that facility (#2) went into service ... few ppl know that ...
Did Sabotage Start TMI accident?http://atomicinsights.com/sabotage-started-tmi-part-2/
I'm still not eating anything caught in the Pacific.
Don't worry, the usual media blowhards will tell us it's safe and FuckUshima is perfectly safe now.
Of course they won't pay a visit.
this just in-
Monsanto scientists just figured out how to turn the nuclear waste and cesium into powder form that they can now easily spray onto the gmo seeds....
The "Fear Factor" is running high on ZH today ... thanks to this article stirring up all the 'crazies' ...
Don't eat the 3 eyed fish!
Classic lie.....background radiation, its everywhere
74 One Liner lies of nuke---right here
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/02/classic-one-liner-lies-of-nuke.html
NASA video explains how we were 2 days away from a world wide emergency that would have 100 nuclear plants melting down....in 2012
Nuke Pro has been promoting the idea that we have to harden our electrical grid, or risk the annihilation of the human species. Yes, it really is that bad. And get rid of nuke.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/04/nasa-explains-how-we-missed...