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Japan Scrambles Jets In Response To Chinese Military Planes
Just in case the world did not have enough potential geopolitical flashpoints and near-crises, here comes old faithful - the simmering nationalist rivalry between China and Japan, which may have been pushed to the backburner in light of the grand return of Cold War 2.0, but is neither forgotten nor resolved. In fact, recent developments which have seen Japan fully back the US strategy in Ukraine while China has voiced its support for Russia, will probably only enflame the direct tension between the two Asian superpowers. Moments ago we got the latest manifestation of precisely this when Japan scrambled military jets on Sunday to counter three Chinese military planes that flew near Japanese airspace, defence officials said.
One Y-8 information gathering plane and two H-6 bombers flew over the East China Sea, travelling in international airspace between southern Japanese islands and went to the Pacific Ocean before returning towards China on the same route on Sunday morning, according to a spokesman at the Joint Staff of the Ministry of Defence.
“They flow above public seas, and there was no violation of our airspace,” he said, declining to release more details about the incident.
Japan and China are locked in a bitter territorial row over islands in the East China Sea administered by Japan as the Senkaku Islands, but which China calls the Diaoyu Islands.
Chinese government ships and planes have been seen off the disputed islands numerous times since Japan nationalised them in September 2012, sometimes within the 12 nautical-mile territorial zone.
And then there was the curious case of Libya which threatened on Saturday to bomb a North Korean-flagged tanker if it tried to ship oil from a rebel-controlled port, in a major escalation of a standoff over the country's petroleum wealth. Because obviously the Mediterranean is far too boring with Greece and Italy now fixed.
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Cue the neo-cons....
Cue Flakmeister to explain how global warming caused Japan to scramble jets.
Exercise all due caution. Flak has a shelf of library books and won't hesitate to remind you.
A shelf full of library books?!?! That's the nuclear option when it comes to debate. There exists no argument against that.
Damn you Flak! You're unbeatable!
I got about 10 minutes now... Wanna go a few rounds?
Does anyone see the dance Russia and China are performing, together. They have each other's back. China will grab the South China Sea, Russia will grab all or a large part of Ukraine.
The South China Sea may be dicier for China than Crimea is for Russia, but the Chinese will throw more weight into it.
Stay tuned.
Putin is only trying to clumsily grab what he let slip through his fingers...
As for China, remind me of what fraction of their oil passes through the Strait of Malacca? The Chinese are currently more dependent on ME oil than the US ever was....
The Chinese have no ability to project power to secure the sea lanes which they critically rely on. And they know it...
Watching. Dance partners indeeed.
I'm surprised the US would push this issue at this time. What happens to USD when the world perceives that American hegemony has ended? Petro-dollar collapse? Print-tastic Fed? Dollars rushing back to US? No more "risk-free" Treasuries? investment standard? Asset repricing, and all at once? No more global power for the Fed over interest rates, or anything else?
Taken your annual vacation to the arctic this winter to assess personally what you like to blather about ? No need to pack ice-cubes for your G and T.
Heading to China to tell them to stop their unchecked pollution ? Don't want to be found floating down the Yantze face down ?
Then you can't be taken seriously.
Are you refering to the same arctic ice that recently hit a record minimum for this time of year?
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm
My up vote. Have you seen the Wizard of Oz?
I have this image of you saying that with a lisp and your fists curled backward.
There is no Wizard in Fight Club, you gotta fight with what you brung.
You are just like a court jester....
Playing for greenies from the peanut gallery while your master discusses matters of state...
You know, Flak, even though your online persona is arrogant and abrasive, on matters of energy extraction, oil production flow rates, and EROI I usually find myself in agreement with you.
Having said that, I also find the opinions you express on foreign policy about as credible as abiotic oil. When you walk into a room with a "Kick Me" sign on your back, you really shouldn't be surprised by the results.
I'm all ears, explain why I am wrong...
No one here has even come close....
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If anyone had said 10 years ago that Putin would be using hamfisted tactics to secure his influence in the home of the Russian Black Sea fleet since 1783, they would have been laughed out of the room...
And yet that is exactly what he is doing...
His Ukrainian puppet Yanukovych, no doubt handpicked, demonstrated complete incompetence in running the Ukraine. All the Ukrainians have to do is look at the Poles to see how far they have fallen behind. Twenty five years ago, they did not have a pot to piss in betweent the two them, now the GDP per capita in Poland is roughly 300% greater...
And if spending $5 billion over ~24 years really toppled the Ukraine, then somebody was asleep at the wheel. For perspective that $5 billion is 100 days of Ukr. gas pipeline revenue and represents a small fraction of Putin's net worth...
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BTW, I use the same careful type of measured analysis and study in arriving at my positions on energy as I do for geopolitics and climate science...
So what is Poland doing to amp the GDP? And should they amp it that way in light of where we are with global energy reserves? And should Ukraine really want to do the same?
Ukraine would do well to break away from both so called "sides." Go Icelandic (except that is a myth too). No such luck. Everyone is in the energy web now and no one is even considering putting on the consumption brakes.
I think one can do energy a lot easier than they can do geopolitics. You can't have your perception of "how much fossil fuel is left" distorted in the same way you can politics. The study of politics is the study of history. The winner always gets to write that one. Fossil fuel is more or less math, it is there or it ain't, it is being drained at x rate or y rate. Folks can lie about those things too, but there is a lot more room for emotions and lying in geopolitics.
None of us know what the fuck is going on, including the players. Even a well thought out conspiracy can go south.
I am not saying what is right and what is wrong in this game...
I am only reading the tea leaves....
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Part of it is Poland did not suffer from the kleptocracy that Ukr. did....
Ukraine is the prize of the Heartland, it will not be allowed to go alone. Iceland is small island in the middle of the North Atlantic... Not exactly comparable...
Energy and geopolitics are tied at the hip...
I am SO HAPPY that this piece of dog crap country (ussa), with it's moronic leadership (if you can find it on 24/7/365 vacation) fixed the worlds problems!!!
I'm thinking if all this stuff blows up, climate change will become less of an issue and TPTB will jump straight to a war tax. All they were ever looking for was a new acceptable reason to increase taxes. And GS gets to set up a war futures exchange with a nice little spread.
Part of me feels sorry for the Japanese having to agree with a clown like Obama. The US position on Ukraine is clearly ridiculous, but Japan needs big brother's backup against China.
Part of me feels sorry for the Japanese having to agree with a clown like Obama
In the speech, since broadcast on Japanese television, Japanese Prime Minister's Yasuhiro Nakasone said:
"The level of Japanese society far surpasses that of the United States. There are many blacks, Puerto Ricans and Mexicans in the United States whose average level is extremely low."
Hee Hee Hee
Part of me feels very sorry for the children of the Hedgetards...
Growing up in an environment that worships ignorance does not bode well for their future...
You must not have children. Or you feel sorry for your own kid(s). You sir, are a Hedgetard too. 3 years, 50 weeks.
This will be the Main Event.
It's all theater, until the first bullet/bomb/nuke kills a man/neighborhood/city.
So far as the "human race" we have been very lucky.
All it takes is one shot and suddenly "it's war everywhere."
"Wars and rumors of wars." Perhaps WWIII will actually be World WarS III, a series of conflicts - Japan vs China, Israel vs Iran, NATO vs Russia, Korea vs Libya, India vs Pakistan, you vs me.
Gold vs Fiat currency
RafterMan vs case of Sam Adams
I got this.
yep ,sometime after oct
Now we have a party. Russia faces off with us, and China gets to go after what it wants while we are distracted. One of the two will get what they want.
Old fashioned game of RISK.
Then we should be watching for Australia. You have to hold Australia to win are Risk.
another way of guaranteeing a win at Risk is to play obama.
The real trick is to infect Madagascaar in Pandemic 2.
It's the strangest thing about playing Risk back in the day - no matter how beleaguered my position, if I held Afghanistan, my enemies would often break themselves on it.
I'd roll boxcars after boxcars.
Good time to slam PMs then. Nothing says safety like a good slam to prop up the Pig.
Ho Lee Fuk
Another Military exercise. There are sites you can visit to confirm this. Relax lemmings.
see reply below
Bankster Wars 3.0, the Unicornless Edition.......
There are so many black swans flying around, I cannot even count them anymore...
Yet the vix will be monkey hammered lower at some point tomorrow for another equity squeeze fest. wash rinse repeat.
The VIX is a black swan too...
Perhaps the crow and seagull attacking the Pope's doves of peace were a clue as to what is coming......
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-26/stranger-fiction-papal-peace-do...
Dammit China, obama is trying to enjoy a month of golfing in the Keys. Don't you realize you can't disturb the King like this?
Japan should have blown those fucking Chinese planes out of the sky.
LET'S GET THE PARTY STARTED!!!!!!
They must feel left out. About time for North Korea to hold another parade of 1950's trucks with exploding missiles.
The USSA on the same side as the ones that bombed Pearl Harbor and the only country that likes getting nuked by others and themselves. FK Great!
I thought the germans bombed Pearl Harbor ..time for a toga ?
This is all BS, the Russians used to regular as clock work fly bombers up to UK airspace to be challenged by UK fighter interceptors who told them to FO.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1260381/RAF-jets-intercept-Russian-bombers-flying-British-airspace.html
Is China trying to ruin the Queen's vacation? I really don't think the Queen cares about America. I hope someone does. The Queen and the media are on the same script.
Japan has joined China and Russia in the exit of petrodollar recycling. Catch the new segment of BIS financial terrorism on your local cable news channel.
Japan must have some new sort of weapon that will defeat the Chinese. Or they're nuts.
"Japan must have some new sort of weapon that will defeat the Chinese."
It's called the US military Industrial complex and Wall Street. Both intend on making huge sums of money on the destruction and carnage.
japan and ukraine: the 2 countries that
a) suffred worst nuclear catastrophies in history (chernobyl, hirosima & fukushima)
b) facing attacks from the nuclear superpowers and loss of territory
c) voluntarily agreed to give up existing and not develop new nukes i nreturn for promises of "collective defense"
Well, the last part is not working. The only solution is to give Ukraine and Japan a few hundred nukes, enough to wipe out every major city and military/naval base of the advancing superpowers. After all, the only thing that keeps North Korea intact is the fact that they may have working nukes.
You heard it here first....Totally unexpected Black Swan event to start WW3 will be...
Moochelle shooting/assassinating Obama as He exits golf course bushes hand in hand w/ Reggie...
China is not really supporting Russia's move into Ukraine, there are even indications of support for the new government in Kiev. Not wanting sanctions on Russia is understandable and I imagine the Japanese are of a similar mind on that point. There is no meaningful divide between Japan and China on Ukraine I suspect, but merely a difference in how much one side is willing to express their displeasure. So, don't expect a war between China and Japan. Even if there were some sort of conflict it would be a minor littoral clash of minimal consequence. More likely any military situation would be something akin to Crimea where the Chinese just show up one day with no real fanfare and suddenly they control all the disputed territory. Japan whimpers and whines, but ultimately acquiesces with begrudging grumbles about their stupid big brother always taking their stuff.
"Let's get ready to rumble!"