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China's Pollution Problem (In 1 Stunning Chart)

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The disgusting images of face-mask-wearing Chinese going about their daily business in minimal visibility and lung-busting conditions are strewen across the interwebs. However, even fake sun-rises pale into significance when the full dismal reality of China's pollution problem is put in context. Perhaps the following chart is why China's latest round of reforms appear to 'declare war on pollution'.


h/t @conradhackett


And it seems that has finally tipped the Chinese over the edge to do something about it... (via Charles Kennedy via

On March 5th China’s Premier Li Keqiang declared war on pollution, outlining significant steps the Chinese government will take to improve air quality. China has suffered from truly epic smog over the last two winters, choking its cities’ inhabitants and cutting off visibility. The pollutants in the air have surpassed hazardous levels, at times jumping beyond the index that measures particulate matter.


"We will resolutely declare war against pollution as we declared war against poverty," Li Keqiang told the legislature, according to Reuters. The central government’s top concern has always been social stability, and the Premier’s announcement that China will take some drastic measures to improve the environment indicates that the government is beginning to worry that air pollution may spark unrest around the country.


Among the measures the government will take, Li said the government’s focus will be on reducing particulate matter (PM 2.5 and PM 10). The government will shut down 50,000 small coal-fired furnaces in 2014, and overhaul power plants in high intensity industries. China will also reduce steel production by 27 million tonnes in 2014 – equivalent to the total output of Italy. Also, the government will look at reforming energy pricing in an effort to pave the way to greater use of renewable energy and nuclear power. The government also hopes to remove six million high-emissions vehicles from the nation’s roads.


The speech comes after an announcement last month by the powerful National Development and Reform Commission (NRDC) that the government will spend $330 billion to reduce water pollution. Much of China’s agricultural land and rivers are contaminated with heavy metals.


Over the last several decades, China has succeeded in lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty, often described as the greatest achievement in poverty reduction in human history. China hopes to continue to grow, but now with a greater pro-environmental focus.

Of course this all sounds great until growth is affected - or a coal plant is shutdown causing contagious defaults across the shadow banking system... at which time we will see just how committed the Chinese government really is...

Here, as we explained previously, are the coal-mining-industry-based trust products...

We believe that coal mine trusts are the most likely to default over the coming months because 1) coal price has dropped sharply in recent quarters; 2) most of the issuers are private enterprises; and 3) they tend to be from provinces whose governments rely heavily on resources related income, e.g., Shanxi and Inner Mongolia.


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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:10 | 4529817 Alpha Dog Food
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Written by Wun Tin Lung?



Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:45 | 4529862 negative rates
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P U, you stink!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:55 | 4529886 boogerbently
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How many China mans would there be with clean air?

They will mimic the USA during our "industrial revolution".
Unions, protection agencies, over regulation, then a slow slide into international obscurity.

Then, Africa.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:03 | 4529909 LetThemEatRand
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The funny thing is that there are a lot of people who defend China's pollution, because it is a perfect example of what is wrong with letting companies put profit ahead of everything else.  

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:18 | 4529952 hardcleareye
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Can you give specific examples of the people who "defend" China's pollution "because it is a perfect example of what is wrong with letting companies put profit ahead of everything else."

Your statement appears to have several "logical fallacies" in it...

In other words, I call bullshit!   lol

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:46 | 4530040 LetThemEatRand
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Did you not read this thread?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:58 | 4529892 Unpopular Truth
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pollution is the price to pay when saving on manufacturing costs.

and they have saved on manufacturing costs for years


now they're costs will go up as well and maybe some jobs will come back


come ba



Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:40 | 4530244 666
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Cash for clunkers?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:45 | 4530269 Hobbleknee
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They actually had a cash-for-clunkers program in China, as well as 75 other countries, at the same time the US did.  Does that surprise you?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:53 | 4530309 666
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I know 535 clunkers in Washington that I'd like to trade in for cash...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:15 | 4530405 rpboxster
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The 535 have already been traded for $

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:46 | 4529865 johnQpublic
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if their war on polution goes as well as our war on drugs, or terror, or poverty, then the country i going to be covered in a permanent haze in 4,3,2....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:19 | 4530144 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:47 | 4529866 Richard Chesler
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Ill take the smog over clean air with Obozocare any time.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4531420 11b40
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Are you retarded, or just a partisan nut bag?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:11 | 4529820 FiatFapper
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Haven't tesla won a contract to provide shit loads of electric buses to China?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:44 | 4529860 Sudden Debt
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Tesla? :) China has it's own electric car producers that build much better electric cars.

But the lithium batteries are still to dangerous and inefficient to use in a commercial way.


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:11 | 4529821 LawsofPhysics
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Fuck em, let them choke on thier own choices.

Let's hope that pacific filter keeps working.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:46 | 4529863 Sudden Debt
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The only way to solve this problem is to change the maximum pollution levels to 200.


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:58 | 4529893 LawsofPhysics
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Please, problems like this tend to "fix" themselves.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:22 | 4530434 NihilistZero
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As if the average Chinese person choking to death actually has a "choice"...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:18 | 4531119 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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LOL, "Pacific Filter", not according to NASA:


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:19 | 4529829 RaceToTheBottom
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If it is smoggy outside, won't they work longer hours so as not to be exposed?


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:33 | 4529843 trader1
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china is the single-largest agricultural producer, feeding 20% of the world's population.

what happens to ~ 1.5 billion people when they regularly eat contaminated food?



Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:47 | 4529867 Sudden Debt
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I mean... I don't think their food can be more contaminated than this... gutter "oil"....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:03 | 4529907 X_mloclaM
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Their hunger abates

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:06 | 4529914 LawsofPhysics
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China is not the single largest ag producer.  Pure propaganda.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:51 | 4530522 trader1
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for a moniker "lawsofphysics", you should at least offer up some evidence for your claim.

i'm waiting... 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:22 | 4529833 ZeroPoint
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China had a war on poverty? Poverty won. They shifted poor farmers and poor laborers into poor factory workers.


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:38 | 4529850 redd_green
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Oh yeah.  The government had little control over farmers living in remote areas, but now all of those people are basically indentured servants living in barracks. so poor they can't even afford a train ride home to visit relatives.    It worked, all right!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:51 | 4529884 Vendetta
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all that over supply of housing for the 'new' middle class that can't afford the ticket for the train ride home, much less the housing built for them.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:49 | 4529877 Sudden Debt
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or shipped them to Africa... the land of opportunity...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:08 | 4529924 X_mloclaM
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yeah China's all like: omg we switched to a mixed economy from full fascist, and reaped other informational benefits from dramatic advancements in telecommunications benefitting the Earth as a whole, and we so totally say any benefit derived therefrom was our "War", rather than acknowledging the central deciders stand in the way of prosperity, and are nothing but opportunistic leeches blocking the swift return to a natural state of affairs

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:25 | 4529834 J S Bach
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Anything the WHO recommends as a "safe" number is sure to be absurdly low (10 mpcm).  The American Medical Association says that I - as a middle-aged man, 6', good health -- should weigh 165 pounds.  C'mon.  So, if I'm in at 200, I'm obese.


By the way, even in the humble opinion of this baroque Master, the WHO did write a few good songs (Baba O'Reilly, Won't Get Fooled Again, The Kids Are Alright).

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:27 | 4529840 hardcleareye
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And the  WHO and AMA are associated in what manner??????????? 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:55 | 4529887 strangeglove
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We wont get fooled again!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:57 | 4530081 atomp
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Fool me twice!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:04 | 4530099 MillionDollarBoner_
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Maaannn! You never read the Illuminati Trilogy? Where you been all your life?

7. The American Medical Association

Long before Dan Brown incorporated Illuminati mythology and iconography into Angels & Demons as an action-adventure plot device, Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson authored the definitive masterpiece on the “Illuminati conspiracy” in their picaresque Illuminati trilogy consisting of The Eye In The PyramidThe Golden Apple and Leviathan. In Shea and Wilson’s universe, the world’s attention is drawn towards the American Medical Association, the most popular and significant rock band in the world - imagine The Beatles in their heyday and then some. Foreshadowing the influence musicians would one day exert over populist political and social issues like world hunger, African debt relief and global warming, the American Medical Association uses their popularity to attract hungry concert-goers to Bavaria, Germany, the birthplace of the Illuminati, for their European version of Woodstock. Unfortunately, the AMA’s motives are far more sinister than the simple domination of the hearts and minds of the world’s youth. As Illuminati Primi, the AMA serves as 4/5 of the secret organization’s executive council and masterfully and invisibly orchestrates all the world’s major events. Satirizing the paranoid belief that rock and roll is simply a communist plot to take over the world by poisoning its youth, Shea and Wilson create a scenario that only a demented, tyrannical anarchist could love. The AMA plans to use the good vibes and energy generated from their performance at the concert to reawaken dormant Nazi battalions, bring about the resurrection of Adolf Hitler and conquer the world.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:30 | 4530473 Herd Redirectio...
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Illuminati Trilogy, my first experience w/ disinformation...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:33 | 4530682 Kobe Beef
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...and still one of my all-time favorites. It's damned funny.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:42 | 4530255 J S Bach
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I know it's Monday, Gents... but you need to chill out.

I was merely pointing out the fallacy of allowing the likes of Pete Townsend and Roger Daltrey to dictate Global Pollution Standards.  That's all.  Sheeeesh.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:23 | 4529835 hardcleareye
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Looking at that chart one might conclude it is time to get rid of the EPA...... 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:43 | 4529856 GetZeeGold
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Maybe it's time to send the EPA to China....and leave the rest of us alone.


Send the NEA and Common Core with them....we need to dumb down the Chinese in a big way.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:55 | 4529885 hardcleareye
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Reading some of the posts on ZH it seems that the "normalization of stupidity" has been accomplished....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:23 | 4531484 11b40
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It sure looks lke it from some of he responses to this article.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:48 | 4529870 Lost My Shorts
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Mr. Koch, is that you?  Why don't you just move to China, instead of trying to turn the USA into China?

Though I guess that turning the USA into a poison pit like China would stop the Chinese from moving here and buying real estate.  And you, I am sure, have an estate on a nice island with fresh air, and don't give a rat's derriere what happens to ordinary Americans.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:07 | 4529917 hardcleareye
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I forgot to put <sarc> at the end....  I was subconsciously "trolling" on ZH......  lol 

Enjoyed your response and concur with you.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:17 | 4529949 Lost My Shorts
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At ZH, you definitely need a sarc at the end of that comment.  Straight up, I think it's a fairly common opinion around here, unfortunately.

I have lived in Asia and seen and tasted the poisoned air and food first hand.  The EPA (not counting the global warmist aspect) is the only thing right with America.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:55 | 4530317 Flakmeister
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The snark/sarc was very clear, not your fault that many here suffer from terminal confirmation bias...

I would love to know what the PM2.5 levels were in major US industrial cities before the Clean Air Act...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:57 | 4529890 Vendetta
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BP and numerous large multinationals would thank you profusely

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:47 | 4529837 JustObserving
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Air Pollution Linked to Significant Decrease in Life Expectancy

July 10, 2013

A study released earlier this week indicates that airborne pollution in China may have shortened the lives of 500 million Chinese by 2.5 billion years. The paper, published inPNAS on Monday, examined pollution data and death records to see whether coal burning, long a source of air pollution, could have damaged public health across northern China in the 1990s. The findings raise concern for developing countries across the globe.

2.5 billion man-years equates to 33.3 million people dying at age zero assuming a life expectancy of 75 years.  Or 66.6 million people dying at half their age - at 37.5 years.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:24 | 4530168 Unpopular Truth
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they can counter that by relaxing the one child rule

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:54 | 4530537 trader1
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After decades of enforcing a one-child policy, China may in the future allow every couple to have two children, a senior family planning official has said.

China's national health and family planning commission will study the impact of a universal two-child rule, its head of research, Ma Xu, told state news agency Xinhua, adding that there was no specific timetable for the decision.

Experts said it was inevitable that China would make the shift, but probably not for several years.

While most couples face large fines if they have more than one child, there are several exemptions, notably for ethnic minorities and rural residents.

China recently relaxed its tight birth control rules slightly, allowing couples to qualify for a second birth if one of the partners was an only child; previously, both had to be without siblings. The move affects a relatively small proportion of families, but experts saw it as opening the door to further reform as the labour force begins to shrink and China faces a rapidly ageing population.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:26 | 4529838 Fix-ItSilly
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The comparison of China to the US is actually not in context.  The difference is wider.  30% of the smog in Los Angeles comes from China.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:23 | 4530160 rwe2late
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Context ?

The context is MSM China-bashing done to support false US innocence and self-congratulatory arrogance.

As though the transfer manufacturing from the US to China had nothing to do with low wages and absent environmental regulations. As though the global corporations and financial institutions did not lobby the Chinese government and demand those conditions of production.

As though air particle pollution is the only kind. The worst polluter on the planet is the Pentagon-led global military and its suppliers, affectionately known as the MIC. The military is the single biggest consumer of petroleum. The military promotes the production and uses all sorts of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons. From agent orange to cluster bombs, from depleted uranium to direct bombardment, the military does it all. And because the military is the biggest user of oil, it becomes a matter of military security to control oil resources, thus militarism not only fights wars, but provides self-serving justification for them. And because the military wants nuclear weaponry, it is a major supporter of Fukushima power. Yet, every US government, including Obama's, has INSISTED that the military be exempt from any environmental treaties.

How often compared to China is the environmental impact of global militarism reported by the MSM?

How often compared to China are India's problems mentioned by the MSM?

Air in Delhi, India on average last year had double the toxic particles per cubic meter being reported in Beijing.

Yes China has BIG problems with pollution. But the world's BIGGEST environmental problems are not just China's. nor simply China caused.



Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:29 | 4529842 hooligan2009
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so, what happened to the three trusts that have matured already in 2014?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:37 | 4529845 Carl Popper
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China great hegemon. Great superpower

China take over world soon.

With great ally Democratic People's Republic of Korea

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:39 | 4529851 Rising Sun
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Socialism is communism using nice words.


China being a total fuck up is not surprising.


California - the land of the socialist nut bars is doing a pretty good job fucking the planet too.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:42 | 4529855 22winmag
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It makes me want to slap the shit out of the limousine liberal liars who hug trees at home and send their corporate dirtywork to China.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:51 | 4529882 hardcleareye
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Are you calling the Koch Brothers " limousine liberal liars"?????  lol

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:10 | 4529898 GetZeeGold
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Throwing the Koch brothers out there is like calling me a cracker.....just don't care.


"So who occupies the 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? Six of the top 10 are … wait for it … unions. They gave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats.

These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million).

In other words, the six biggest union donors in American politics gave 15 times more to mostly Democrats than the Evil Koch Bros."



Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:11 | 4530002 hardcleareye
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This is about the structure of a corporation.  This is about the fiduciary obligations a corporation has to it's share holders to max profits.  It is not within the corporate charter to considering the long term impacts of environmental degradation or the "trashing of the commons" or the resulting human pain and suffering.  For a corporation to take these issues into consideration and for these considerations to effect the profitability of the corporation would be grounds for a shareholder lawsuit.

Thoreau said, " a corporation has no conscience".

We live in a society were "Greed is Good"....  the worship of Mammon.

It is just business....  and this is the way it is. 

And by entering into the false, liberal/conservative argument you are being played, ... hence my calling attention to the Koch bother.

The  liberal/conservative argument is an example of the "Normalization of Stupidity" in our society.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:05 | 4530368 greatbeard
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>> the Evil Koch Bros?

Oh, amongst your other admirable traits, a Koch sucker.  Don't forget to wipe your chin.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:00 | 4529897 Vendetta
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totally agree except that it is not just the limo liberal liars

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:40 | 4529852 greatbeard
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I thought the cure for everything in the US is deregulate?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:54 | 4529876 GetZeeGold
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Are you suggesting we kill off all the Czars? I'm pretty sure that's highly unconstitutional.


If we can save just one spotted owl....I'm all for killing 350 million Americans ala Stalin style. Gonna need a lot of bullets....but word is we've got them.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:15 | 4530135 greatbeard
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>> I'm all for killing 350 million Americans ala Stalin style.

Drama queen.



Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:51 | 4529881 Lost My Shorts
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Well, the cure for everything that matters to Roger Ailes and the Koch brothers, anyhow.  Proles don't count.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:43 | 4529858 Hurdy Gurdy Man
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Listen dudes, this shit is for real. In South Korea people go out with particle masks morning and afternoon.  Priests advise parishoners old and newborns to stay in for the day.  I got off the plane at Incheon and my eyes were sore and my throat coated.  Every day.  Since I've been here. For 7 days.  WTF.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:42 | 4530706 Kobe Beef
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I was in Korea a few years back. One day the "yellow dust" was so bad you couldn't see the traffic lights a block down the road. You couldn't see the buildings across the street. You couldn't see anything. It was just brown.

That day, I did hawk the most ginormous lugee ever spat. It was a pearly, blood-mottled monster; a Lovecraftian tumor, excised from the greater depths. I still remember it. I can still see it writhing on the pavement.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:33 | 4531548 11b40
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Don't scare the children here.  They don't really want to know.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:46 | 4529864 hardcleareye
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I wonder what the PM 10 readings look like....

There are two sizes of Particulate Matter that are "looked at" and "regulated" from "emission sources" PM 10 and PM 2.5.

This really does beg the question, is what you are seeing in the levels of pollution in China, the consequences of environmental deregulation? 

Without regulations how do you encourage companies to install and use BACT (best available current technology) to min. their emissions and be good neighbors?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:09 | 4529926 Telemakhos
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Here are PM 2.5 and 10, as well as ozone and sulfur dioxide readings:

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:52 | 4530066 hardcleareye
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Thank you for the link, that was a "eye opener". 

Why are the Chinese population tolerating these conditions?

Do you know or have links to what the pollution transport models look like at these volumes and levels?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:06 | 4529868 Hongcha
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Been to Shijazhuang, Handan and Zhengzhou.  They are all on the beltway due South of Beijing.  Some westerner just did a docu on the pollution along that route, riding by train.  We did it by trains and cars.  The Feng Feng Mining District lay down there, and it is truly awful.  Came back with a bronchial condtion that took a month to clear.  Stay away.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:49 | 4529875 Zero-risk bias
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Guess the coal mine trusts will be the canary in the coal mine. How poetic.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:50 | 4529878 arnoldsimage
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does honey badger know about this? when honey badger finds out about this "problem" the dow will jump 100 pts.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:16 | 4529943 X_mloclaM
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Gurge Soroz of JP Capital?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:53 | 4529879 nakki
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Me thinks the war on pollution loses out to producing more garbage to sell on Amazon. Plus they need to build at least another 50-100 ghost cities just to keep that GDP growing.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 08:56 | 4529888 arnoldsimage
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what happened to flight 370? possible terrorist action? dow up 200.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:18 | 4529956 X_mloclaM
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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:30 | 4529995 negative rates
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A 3-D plastic gun shot a hole threw the side of the plane, then the undetectable plastic explosive blew a larger hole which put a drag on the tail end of the plane forcing it to turn and drop at the same time. That's why no one called to inform you of the accident, because they didn't have the time to control the plane and talk at the same time. It's similar to a US congressman chewing gum, walking and thinking at the same time, it just can't be done.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:21 | 4530159 Zero-risk bias
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That's the most plausible explanation I have heard yet.

Nice detective skills negative.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:07 | 4529918 q99x2
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Once they are able to see themselves maybe they won't reproduce at all.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:18 | 4529951 X_mloclaM
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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:21 | 4530427 Hongcha
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I would far prefer to mate with a cross-selection of Chinese women than the Amerikan cows I see in flyover country.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 16:09 | 4535567 fedupwhiteguy
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Just in flyover country????? Get real biotch!! Hefers are everywhere, sucka!! On both coasts. I know, I've seen them all over this great land. btw, growing up in Asia gave me a taste their women, such as:

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:10 | 4529934 Hongcha
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If you could get it in and get it marketed, sales of American herb remedies, vitamins, what have you would make you a millionaire overnight.  The problem is, you will have your product knocked off and a clay/waxen effigy of it would be on the streets by Monday.  That's what happened to Burt's Bees, which is widely popular over there.  Frustrating./

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:23 | 4529968 Calculus99
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See, as others have said before, the real risk in China is the cost of cleaning up the polution, the number probably is in the trillions ($) over the coming decades.

Looks like the West has properly stuffed up the 'long term thinking' Chinese by exporting most of their polution to the Orient. 


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 09:55 | 4530075 Sufiy
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Watch out Electric Cars and Lithium now:

Tesla Battery Gigafactory, Lithium Materials And Lithium Miners


Time is to study the Tesla Gigafactory plans and its implications for the Lithium materials industry and Lithium miners. Euro Pacific has produced a very good report on the Lithium industry last summer. Now you should adjust Lithium demand estimates with Tesla Gigafactory news and LG Chem plans for the battery factory to be built in China.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 10:15 | 4530134 The Abstraction...
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Nah, Lithium is a joke. The real story here is paladium, platinum, iridium and rhodium, the only metals that can be used in high temperature catalytic converters.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:53 | 4530765 dogbreath
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AGW theory has losts its credibility so they drag out the Ozone Hole again.  Its over the south pole FFS and doesn't migrate.


Its always been there

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:44 | 4530505 robertocarlos
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Why is China polluting their own country? Is it because they really cannot compete and so they cut corners? They have the technology to NOT pollute. Oh well sucks to be them drowning in their own shit.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 11:58 | 4530550 I Write Code
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Someone should point out that these US "cities" like Merced, Hanford, and Bakersfield are actually out in farming territory and any pollution is either natural dirt/dust or farming by-products.  Even in Los Angeles proper we get a lot of pollen and dust from the hills, not to mention this pine tree outside my window.  AND now some 30% of stuff from China, though I figured that was more CO2 and NOx not particulates.  And even Beijing has a lot of stuff blowing in from the Gobi desert, always has - and on special occassions measurable amount of Gobi actually reach the US, too.

How much diesel particulates play in any of these, especially the US, I dunno.  Wouldn't really figure diesel tractors pollute square miles of farmland so it matters.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:17 | 4532062 Bazza McKenzie
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CO2 is not pollution.  It is plant food that you body exhales every minute of the day and which is not toxic.

The breath you exhale is 4-5% CO2.  CO2 in the atmosphere is about 0.04% CO2, ie the concentration of CO2 in your lungs, produced by your body, and to which you are adapted is 100 times the air concentration.

The generation of CO2 in China or anywhere else, is small compared to existing CO2 in the air and its contribution to CO2 concentration is absolutely minute compared to what is in your lungs at point of exhalation.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:18 | 4530630 Expat
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Let's not forget their water problems: polluted lakes and rivers, depleted aquifers, salinization of farm land, and desertification.

I suppose when you have 1.3 billion people you can afford to kill off a few hundred million in the name of progress.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 12:24 | 4530657 Spungo
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Why is the free market not solving their pollution problem??????????????????????

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 19:23 | 4532565 saulysw
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For an alternative view, see what the Sydney Australia readings are (updated hourly)


Pretty good when there is not a bushfire about.

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