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Fed's Chuck Evans Loses It

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You really can't make this stuff up:

  • EVANS: FED NEEDS TO BE CLEAR RATES WILL BE LOW FOR LONG TIME (ok)
  • EVANS SAYS 'WE NEED TO LET THE MARKET WORK' (umm, well...)
  • EVANS SAYS FED WANTS TO SEE LOWER LONG-TERM INTEREST RATES (but... you just said)
  • EVANS:HIGHER LONG-TERM RATES FOR RIGHT REASON IN 'OUR' INTEREST (wait, what?)

Did Charlie blow a fuse? Because he just said that the Fed will hold rates low, wants long-term rates low, but also wants to let the markets work, and wants inflation to raise long-term rates... Forward-guidance just lost another few points of credibility.

Some questions here:

  1. Who is "our"?
  2. If higher rates are in our interest, then why is the Fed holding rates low and "wanting see long-term rates low"?
  3. If we need to let the market work then why is the Fed still buying well over 100% of MBS issuance and virtually all TSY long duration issuance as well as supporting equity valuations?
 

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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:24 | 4530858 RacerX
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And you thought Greenface was confusing.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:28 | 4530879 max2205
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Its just the Meth talking

 

 

 

Yo!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:29 | 4530882 Manthong
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The growths which are identified as hemorrhoids in normal people are actually the brains in Keynsians.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:33 | 4530904 Thought Processor
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We'll put this one in the file marked-

 

"You have got to be kidding me"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4530911 Thought Processor
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And or............

 

Chuck Evans goes Full Retard.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:36 | 4530927 knukles
Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:38 | 4530936 bania
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Quantum brain, multiple states at once.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:41 | 4530945 Looney
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Evans and the Fed went full retard a long time ago. Now, they’ve just stopped pretending… ;-)

Looney

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:46 | 4530968 NotApplicable
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Why there's something for everyone in those statements!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4531026 Theta_Burn
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Making it up as they go

 

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:25 | 4531185 SoilMyselfRotten
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I think he just said we can all kiss his ass

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:00 | 4531352 TaperProof
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Nothing makes any sense any more, so in the new world, this makes total sense.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:09 | 4531410 insanelysane
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In the new world, it is perfectly normal to just talk without listening to what you spoke in the last sentence.  You just babble things you think people want to hear and hope the algos are focusing on the correct terms.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:51 | 4531424 HardlyZero
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21st Century Schizoid Man (King Crimson)

Livin' it.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:04 | 4532279 BringOnTheAsteroid
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But from one sentence to the next?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:37 | 4530933 MagicHandPuppet
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To a Keynesian, this all makes perfect sense.

 

They just have to sacrifice a few children for the equation to balance.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:42 | 4532440 fockewulf190
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More like generations rather than a few kids.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:33 | 4530906 superflex
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This should be good for another 50 points in SPY

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:37 | 4530930 Manthong
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sp. Keynesians.. but you know what's on their mind.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:41 | 4530950 DOGGONE
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Bubbles and Your Kids
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1238827

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4530908 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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EVANS: FED NEEDS TO BE CLEAR RATES WILL BE LOW FOR LONG TIME (ok)

We fuk you wong time.

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:40 | 4530944 TheFourthStooge-ing
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EVANS: FED NEEDS TO BE CLEAR THAT HIGH RATES WILL BE VERY LOW FOR THE SHORT TERM EXTENDED WELL INTO THE FUTURE AS DETERMINED BY THE FED-CONTROLLED MARKET

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:46 | 4530967 Groundhog Day
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when all else fails, baffle em with bullshit

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4531061 rubearish10
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They've succeeded at mis-pricing asset markets!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:11 | 4531088 William.M.Tweed
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Or bath salts

 

The appearance of the law must be upheld, Especially when it's being broken

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:43 | 4531946 DosZap
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Has there been a remake of "Groundhog Day?".

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:55 | 4531314 Babaloo
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I think his first comment "rates will be low for a long time" refers to the short rate (Fed Funds)

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:01 | 4531360 rotagen
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REminds me of another Hemorrhage (hemorrhoid?) of truth from Greenspan:

"IF WORKERS ARE MORE INSECURE, THAT'S VERY HEALTHY FOR THE SOCIETY, BECAUSE IF WORKERS ARE MORE INSECURE THEY WON'T ASK FOR WAGES, THEY WON'T GO ON STRIKE, THEY WON'T CALL FOR BENEFITS.... AND THAT'S VERY HEALTHY FOR CORPORATIONS"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:27 | 4530873 astoriajoe
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Maybe its because I don't have a PhD.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:49 | 4530986 101 years and c...
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i think its the lack of "overconfidence".

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:09 | 4531078 oddjob
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In the end, not being on that list might be in your advantage.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:28 | 4530881 camaro68ss
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whats the Over/Under for these fucks to start jumping?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:32 | 4530896 slightlyskeptical
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I don't see them jumping. That would mean they have remorse and compassion which they don't.

If they start locking them up then that would be another story, but for now no conscience and no fear.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:07 | 4531070 gatorengineer
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much more likely to comitt suicide by shooting themselves in the head with a nail gun 9 or 10 times

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:51 | 4530993 seek
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They don't jump. They do, however, retire.

When you start hearing "they want to spend more time with their family", you'll know that big event isn't far away.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:29 | 4530883 MrTouchdown
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Because animal spirits!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:29 | 4530884 InvestmentMind
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It's so far beyond "You can't make this shit up", I don't know what to call it.

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 18:10 | 4532303 BringOnTheAsteroid
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How about: "You can't fabricate this shit up".

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:30 | 4530887 Stoploss
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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:31 | 4530895 Ghostdog
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I think he think's he Bob Evans, down on the farm

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:32 | 4530897 ZeroPoint
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But.... but...deflation.......Stock valuations would go down. That is heresy!!!!!

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:32 | 4530899 Itchy and Scratchy
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Wires get short circuited all the time when the Income Redistributionists discover there ain't no cheese to slice and when the 'other guy' is tapped out!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:32 | 4530901 NaiLib
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"IT's Putin's fault!"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:32 | 4530903 yogibear
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QEeen Yellen, Charles Evans and William Dudley have set forth a strong path to destroy the US dollar. When the rest of the world is selling US dollars they will be creating/printing money to buy up the $12 trillion or more in currency.

 

The destruction of the US dollar is the only thing that stops they twisted Keynesian maniacs. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:50 | 4530990 kchrisc
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"The destruction of the US dollar is the only thing that stops they twisted Keynesian maniacs."

Well no. They will just transition to the IMF S(e)D(e)R.

 

"Yes sir, the dollar is worthless and your mortgage, student loans and credit cards were denominated in dollars. But now you owe us in S(e)D(e)Rs. Please send all remittances payable to the IMF, BIS or BOI. Thank you and have a fiat day."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4531013 SubjectivObject
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So, what's the projected end game is the destruction of the dollar is their intent?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:37 | 4532149 kchrisc
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It is always about money and power. More or keep money, and more and keep control. They don't want to destroy the dollar, they have to so as to remain in control and in the money.

They know as well as most of us that the dollar is toast. That in dollar dominated lands a massive price inflation will destroy the value of their counterfeit debt. To forestall this, they are going to transition things to the S(e)D(e)R so that the people's debts will be owed in dollars AND SDRs.

The American people will then find that one day a loaf of bread might cost $100,000. That same $100,000 might also be used to pay off one's mortgage. However the banksters will say, "Not so fast, we want SDRs not dollars." That debtor might then find that it will cost 100,000 loafs of bread to payoff said mortgage in SDRs.

 

"I put on Roddy Piper glasses, and the world has never looked the same since."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:55 | 4531014 SubjectivObject
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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4530915 hmmmstrange
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How are high frequency bots going to decipher that?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:53 | 4531007 seek
Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4530916 LetsGetPhysical
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That made my head hurt. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:52 | 4531004 Cursive
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@LetsGetPhysical

"Baffle 'em with Bullshit" is supposed to have that effect.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:36 | 4530929 Rising Sun
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Chuck loses it.  So fucking what.  It's all a show. 

 

China defaults, war is breaking out in Ukraine, US macros are pathetic, Europe's are even worse, Japan is a pile of shit and the S&Ps are down 5.

 

Oh and if you want a burrito from a company with a market cap of $20 BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS, go to Chipotle.

 

So fuck Chuck, you rants are fake and worthless.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:20 | 4531111 nakki
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Or you could "Like" Chipotle on a company that does absolutely nothing and is worth 182 billion dollars. At least Shipotle gives you something tangible. Fakebook gives advertisers basically a 90% fake "Like" rate. Don't forget instascam and whassssapp, a $19 billion app that will be obsolete in 2-3 years, and if not obsolete could have been written for 200 million.

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:39 | 4530937 Mr. I-N-The Sky
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HOW DOES THE FED ASSURE LOW INTEREST RATES AND LET THE MARKET WORK?  HYPOCRISY!  DID I SPELL IT RIGHT?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:40 | 4530940 Colonel Klink
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Hang all of them.  Satan will know which ones are his.  Start with Chuck "we're fucked" Evans.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4530980 yogibear
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After Chuck and the rest destroy the currency people would pay-per-view to see the event.

Chuck is one of the most arrogant of the Fed heads.

 

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:40 | 4530941 silverserfer
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FED minuites = retard watching chocolate soft serve ice cream be served and writes report on it. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:40 | 4530943 Itchy and Scratchy
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My teechurs alwayz yoused 'ta say dat I kneaded  moar 4ward guidunce!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:41 | 4530946 FranSix
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Is anyone in the slightest bit aware that bond markets set interest rates?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:43 | 4530957 kchrisc
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"Bond Markets" Who is that?! An assistant to Yellen maybe?!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4530982 NotApplicable
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"The name is 'Markets. Bond Markets.'"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4531011 ParkAveFlasher
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"We finally meet at last, Mr. Bond Markets.  Would you like a shmoke and a pancake?"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:43 | 4530960 The Most Intere...
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Janet Yellen:  "I am the markets you little bastards!!!"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:35 | 4531200 Itchy and Scratchy
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Nope ....Janet the hottie sets 'em!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:42 | 4530952 kchrisc
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Sounds like he picked a bad week to quit sniffing ink.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:42 | 4530954 The Most Intere...
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It's not the weather this time.  He definetly has a vibrator in his ass.  And, yes, it's on max speed....  Those folks at the Fed are sick MFs...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:45 | 4530958 XRAYD
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In Art Cashin's comments today to explain the great plague:

"But like lots of well-intentioned governmental/academic ideas it was somewhat wide 

of the mark...and had unexpected consequences. The cause was fleas alright but not 

dog fleas…..it was rat fleas. And in the 1300's what was the most effective way to 

hold down the rat population…..you guessed it - dogs. So by suggesting that 

townsfolk kill their dogs, the wise authorities had unwittingly allowed the rat 

population to flourish and thus a new vicious rash of Black Plague began. Before it 

was over, three years later, nearly 1 out of 3 people in the world had died of the 

plague. "

http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/staticfiles/faw/adobe/all/cashin_com...

This is exactly what the Feds are doing with their monetary games.  By trying to fix debt with more debt, they are killing the dogs instead of the rats!

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:57 | 4531027 kchrisc
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"But like lots of well-intentioned governmental/academic ideas..."

In the history of the world there has never and there will never be a ""well-intentioned governmental idea."

 

"Government, being a criminal syndicate always accomplishes the opposite of the stated goal. Always."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:45 | 4530966 skwid vacuous
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POS fed fuck, pretending to have our best interests at heart, needs to be tortured then hung from a tree

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4530971 CaptainSpaulding
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Its all good. I love life... Batrender, I'll have another B&B

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:46 | 4530972 the grateful un...
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the fed is managing deflation, once everyone catches onto that the real trouble begins. the real issue for them is to juggle housing asset values long enough that the MBS they are holding won't collapse their balance sheet. the illusion that wall street can go higher is based on the connundrum, asset values are really a lot lower than the myth to market values, and hence the paper has strong relative value to real assets. as soon as you buy something (car home boat airplane) you're stuck with a deflating asset, so corporations prefer to sit on cash. the service industry does just fine, while your asset is deflating you must pay inflated maintenance fees.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:47 | 4530973 moneybots
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"EVANS: FED NEEDS TO BE CLEAR RATES WILL BE LOW FOR LONG TIME"

 

Translation:  FED needs to be clear economy will be poor for long time.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4530979 Inthemix96
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Chuck Evans,

Cunt,

Period,

Fucking shit headed cunt.

;-)

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:31 | 4531172 g'kar
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That's what I always like about you, short and to the point.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:48 | 4530983 ...out of space
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i got it

he wants that market  start to muve in  groowe direction with out fed help and with taper on fed test how strong market is. let see how strong qe drug is

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 13:50 | 4530987 HRamos_3
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We need our low rates high and our high rates low. But no fiddling with it!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4530998 yogibear
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Hey Chuick, how many times were you picked on in school?

The city where your Federal Reserve bank sits is going bankrupt.

When the rest of the countries stop accepting US dollars the tables will turn as well as your BS. It's when the Fed becomes fearful and loses control. No more petro dollar. It's coming.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:05 | 4531058 Itchy and Scratchy
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Give me moar! Give me moar! Give me moar!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4531060 g'kar
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He would have been clearer by saying he wants the rates lower but the yields higher.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4531074 Iam Yue2
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Yellen’s optimal policy not credible.

"Yellen’s “optimal policy” of maintaining low long bond yields until the unemployment rate hits its natural rate is not credible, which implies that the policy will be less effective than she states. The optimal policy requires expectations of unchanged policy rates for a long period ahead while also implying that the policy rates have to rise sharply, once unemployment hits its natural rate, to prevent inflation from sharply overshooting its target. The longer the Fed is able to press down long bond yields, the stronger will be the rebound in those yields as the unemployment rate approaches its natural rate. In the worst case, long bond yields could rise as sharply as in 1994 when the economy was hurt significantly."

@handelsbanken.se

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:11 | 4531085 Bill of Rights
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Evans raises cue card " Wait wasn't I suppose to say "

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4531092 buzlightening
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More green spew puke from possessed fed fud looney tunes. SHUT UP neoCONzi puke!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4531094 t0mmyBerg
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The comments in the article are fucking hilarious.  Well said

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:15 | 4531105 Ifigenia
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"Did Charlie blow a fuse?"

 

Why? In a casino, everybody know the talk is only the talk. The players always know the probability to win is on the casino side

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:19 | 4531122 Itchy and Scratchy
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QE III!  QE III!  QE III!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:55 | 4531313 Ifigenia
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 every US citizen with a printer to print the money he/she need. Return the power to print to the people. No more QE.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:21 | 4531125 JustPrintMoreDuh
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Its almost as if they're just making it up as they go ...  <*cough*>

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:32 | 4531126 Chuck Knoblauch
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The Protestants have no national leadership in America. I think that's what Chuck is saying. It's unraveling now. I'm sure the Jesuits will work with any remaining Protestants to rebuild a cheap copy of America. Another one bites the dust.

I guess we should be greatful that they are moving as slow as they are to give some the time to prepare, maybe even convert to the Order. It's fascinating how the US is cut into 10 FEMA regions, and these regions correlate with the 10 Provinces under Jesuit authority. Just google the the maps and you'll see what I mean.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:22 | 4531138 Pareto
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When you read something like this, you cannot help but realize that whatever slim, remote possibility that maybe one day somebody or something credible might come out of the FED - some intelligence, some cogent thought or an expression of a return to free and unfettered markets, sound money - fuck just something - you soon realize how retarded you were for thinking such idealism and acknowledge - yet again, that there goes another 5 minutes of your life you can't ever get back.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:28 | 4531158 sosoome
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I'm sure glad he cleared that up.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:28 | 4531159 BeetleBailey
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Right after, he went to his grand-uncle's greasy spoon, Bob Evans, and had a "low-inflation" breakfast of two quails eggs and dwarf pig bacon.....and teaspoon of OJ....all for $14.99

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4531167 Johnny Cocknballs
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Why expect them to be more intelligent, consistent or aware than the rest of the in=paradigm kool-aid swillers.

At a very basic level, many, maybe roughly a 1/3 of comments you see from the Left blaming "capitalism" have nothing to do with the excesses and abuses of a free market, but a result, direct or merely inevitable, of government and/or FRS intervention and meddling.

Combine that with the inside information, market making power and gold price suppression the central banks and large commercial banks engage in, we have nothing like a free market - certainly the "markets" are less free the further away you get from the local, cash economy.... 

 

buying well over 100% of MBS issuance

Suspect that's not true, but in any event, while housing is in a bubble, again, and Krugman seemingly beginning to understand that his system requires this kind of rinse repeat misallocation and misvaluation of hard asset prices, there might be some way to soften the retreat from current prices if we gave some of the QEternity money to smaller, local banks.

But that won't happen.


Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:31 | 4531173 Rusty Nayle
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New ZH Acronym...ETMF!

End the Motherfucking Fed!!!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4531214 B.J. Worthy
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Chuck E. cheese.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 14:41 | 4531230 peakaboo
Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:01 | 4531353 walküre
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Not surprising he sounds confusing. Many analysts have been warning that the Fed will find itself between a rock and a hard place with no (absolute 100% confirmed) easy way out.

They're looking for and investigating the hard core options as we speak. Live accordingly.

You may call 1800-FUCK-YO to submit your suggestions. Sorry, only one lucky winner will be selected and rewarded with a place in banker's hell.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:10 | 4531415 insanelysane
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"This is what we are going to did."

-The FED

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 15:19 | 4531464 Racer
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This is what happens when they don't know which lie to use...........

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:00 | 4531694 HardlyZero
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Interviewers need to administer breath-a-lyzer test before interview (or blood sample).

Also must make sure interviewee is awake on the other side of phone and not just babbling.

Maybe a webcam of him saying this during the interview (no crosses or funny faces) might be useful for body language ?

Dismal.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 16:36 | 4531922 Bohemond
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To quote Pete Hogwallop from "O Brother Where Art Thou?:, who elected YOU leader of this outfit ?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 17:47 | 4532213 Wait What
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'wait, what?' it's about time Tyler used my moniker. i've been using it every time a Fed official opens their mouth... because they talk out of both sides of it.

rule 1 of Ph.D. economics: accept that your whole thought process results in a non-sequitur. always.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 19:22 | 4532561 kahunabear
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This guy is the freaking devil.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!