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How Brits Make The Rent - Sell A Kidney (On Facebook)
While central bankers and politicians alike celebrate the great recorvery in the UK, the nation is increasingly divided between the haves and have-nots (or Londoners and non-Londoners). In no way is that more clearly evident that a dreadful new trend that, as The Sunday Post reports, desperate Brits are turning to Facebook to advertise their organs for sale at up to $50,000 despite the medical and legal risks involved.
Cash-strapped Britons are lining up to sell a kidney on the black market, a Sunday Post investigation has revealed.
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Our reporter posed as the brother of a woman desperately needing a transplant and placed an advert on a Facebook page specifically set up to buy and sell organs.
Within a week he had received 11 offers from desperate people worldwide willing to risk their lives to drag themselves out of poverty.
Many of the black market operations take place in India, Pakistan or China in an underground industry controlled by ruthless gangs.
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Among the people to contact us was a man from north-east England who claimed he realised it “would be a big thing to do but for the right amount I would be willing”. Our reporter held detailed discussions with the self-employed dad-of-three, including his blood type, the state of his health, a £30,000 payment for the donation and arrangements to meet in person.
A 22-year-old dad living in Northampton was happy to accept £20,000 for his kidney because he and his pregnant fiancee desperately need to raise enough money to return to their native Hungary.
The cash-strapped dad, who has studied at two colleges in Northamptonshire, became frustrated our reporter was not progressing the deal quickly enough and has since placed a new advert, wanting a sale “as soon as possible”.
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A 28-year-old man from Banchory, Aberdeenshire, placed a message online in which he claimed he would talk to anyone willing “to make an offer”.
A mum from Hampshire has placed two adverts online describing herself as having an O-negative blood type and “has a passport” suggesting she is prepared to travel abroad.
As The Telegraph adds, however,
In the UK it is an offence under the Human Tissue Act to buy or even advertise organs for sale. This means that anyone offering to sell their own organs – even if they intend to travel abroad to have the operation – could face prison.
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Alan Clamp, chief executive of the Human Tissue Authority which regulates live organ donations throughout the UK, said: “It is illegal to offer or seek payment for organs for sale under the Human Tissue Act, and no operation from a living donor can go ahead without our approval.
“Before a transplant from a living donor goes ahead, the hospital transplant team will assess if the donor is suitable and run several tests to ensure the transplant will be as successful as possible.
“An independent assessor, acting on behalf of the HTA, will then carry out interviews with both parties and report back.
“We need to satisfy ourselves that the donor knows the risks involved, that the donor has given consent freely and no reward has been offered or received."
Welcome to the recovery, Brits!
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Yeah but you can't eat kidneys. Oh wait
But you can eat bits like Pac-Man did.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/43889125.jpg
Sure, cut me up. You'll get home faster that way.
Procurement of a kidney in the US costs about $70,000. Total cost of a transplant is about $280,000. The donor gets nothing. The medical industry makes quite a profit on donated organs. The medical lobby is vehemently against allowing direct organ sales. It would have a significant adverse effect on profits. And they call it health-care. The only thing they care about is $$$$.
http://www.transplantliving.org/before-the-transplant/financing-a-transp...
This is desperately sad.
Not for the decendents of Britians former feudal lord families. The plan to re-take control is working well.
Too bad we can't transplant functional and ethical brains into our politicians...
This is the same reason why I will NEVER donate blood.
It's a total racket and its regulation has been captured by the big players (hospitals) as well.
And it's also why you should NEVER donate organs. They will rip them (no anesethetic in some cases) from your barely living corpse if you get into a really bad accident.
Fuck that. I'm taking them with me.
Ripped from your "barely living corpse"? Without anaesthetic? Oh noes.
Having worked in hospitals a long time I will attest to egregious acts committed against people who signed their organ donor cards. However there are too many safeguards in place now. If it happens anymore it is isolated and rare.
However I still won't sign my organ donor card and neither will most physicians. We know we are unscrupulous assholes and we know better than to trust someone with dual agency lol.
One reason I QUIT donating blood several years ago. I found out that it's just another racket.
The "non-profits" behind it, like the Red Cross and a few others, make billions from this scam.
They sell the blood for hundreds of dollars to the hospitals who then mark it up even further. The execs at the "non-profits" then pay themselves exorbitant salaries and bonuses. There are, as one can imagine, kickbacks and etc. as well.
No, if you want my blood and/or organs you will be paying me. And my rates are lower than the scoundrels at these so-called "non-profits." “Bidding starts at $100 a pint, do I hear $120…”
Sidenote: Why do you think that government is so involved in the drivers license "organ donor" scam?! Money, that's why. In a lot of states you have to opt out of this scam and there are efforts a foot to REQUIRE your participation.
If it wasn't so profitable for them, they would have contacted the banksters to create an index for trading. We're gonna need Hannibal to give the health services a good cleansing. Seems more like health care price gouging than providing a service to the community.
Dead people don't vote.
They do in chicago.
Brits stood by and let the bankers bury them & their children in inflation & debt, essentially becoming a former empire with no true middle class, and an "unspoken of in polite circles" caste system, where 90% of their citizenry are destined to the fate of 'forever debt serfs,' and this process is now being replicated in the USSA (the nation formerly known as the United States of America):
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only."
Thanks Sunshine for wasting a minute and a half of my life reading that tripe.
Yeah, I know. Dickens was such a hack./s
In the USSA no one has class. Oh wait....
There are some brave freedom fighters in Syria who like liver.
More ethical than selling sperm/eggs, aka selling babies.
There is nothing unethical about selling one's organs. We either own ourselves or we do not.
The fact that people are brought to cutting out a kidney is the tragic thing.
"There is nothing unethical about selling one's organs. We either own ourselves or we do not."
You should own yourself, but when the racket goes into overdrive they put such thoughts to sleep with a little thing called the draft.
"Children are the future...soldiers and securers of debts and loot that is."
Agree selling organs should be legal.
"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
In principle I would agree, if someone chooses to sell an organ or blood or bone marrow or whatever, what business is it of anyone elses but the person on the other side of the trade? But, I fear we'd just end up with some asshole swimming in an private olympic sized pool of human kidneys that he'd fleeced from his credulous customers just because he could and because it made him feel like a clever boy and every pimp would have his bitches sell a kidney, every dealer his junkies e.t.c. e.t.c. e.t.c. Would there be organ brokerages with asshat salespeople cold calling the world asking "Hi, I'd like to talk to you about the profit potential in the redundant organs in your own body! Did you know that blah blah blah. What would you do with all that money? Have you considered having children?"
Shit, if JPRISMorgan scans this and computes it to be true, I'd wager it's running calculations on potential profits on importing heroin then fleecing junkies for their kidneys and drafting mercilessly verbose bills as I type. Yellen will soon be doing Good Gods work. Gold Oil Organs and Drugs God.
Or criminals, why not have them pay their pound of flesh? Obviously it has to be their choice but it could be incentivised. Prisons are expensive for the taxpayers and the gubbmint lurves the taxpayers donchaknow?
What about debts? what if, heaven forbid, the unthinkable happens one day and all the banks collude <gasp> then what could stop them adding organs to mortages, putting the mort back into mortgage and JP Mortgan? He'd be keeping God busy then rather than doing Gods work.
Sell a kidney
“The horror! The horror!”
Monty Pythonesque.
So, can we have your liver then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aclS1pGHp8o
Is this Monty Python "The Meaning of Life"? Oh, wait, that was involuntary organ-donation.
Here's my strategy: I trash my organs to make sure that no one else would want them! ;-)
I pity anyone who gets my organs. Of course the MIC will just tell them I was healthy as an OX (except for the whole death part.../giggle).
If, like my own, your kidneys/liver are not suitable for transplantation, make sure you're listed as an organ donor on your drivers license application, cell-phone bill or whatever they're doing these days.
Washington State put me on the organ donor roster aagainst my wishes; I didn't bother to remove my name since the Harvesting Team will get some nasty surprises if they ever open up my dead/near-dead carcass on the table at 2 am: congratulations, jerks, you've just wasted three hours of the Team's most valuable time....
Why doesn't someone cut David Cameron's kidney out and sell it on E-Bay?
I wouldn't buy his kidney on e-Bay...I mean, is the connection secure?
Why would you go to a social media site to buy a kidney?
Throw the rest away - kinda like shark finning.
Only if I can use PayPal.
Call 1-800-ISRAEL
Fuck you.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Indeed Seasmoke!
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-arrested-in-rome-for-organ-traffick...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/nyregion/24jersey.html?pagewanted=all&...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-01/organ-gangs-force-poor-to-sell-...
http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/02/brazil-poor-sell-organs-to-trans-atlantic...
http://alisonweir.org/journal/2013/9/25/my-articles-on-israeli-organ-tra...
Thats only half the story
Dont dont go into the NHS on your own they will kill you if you have the right blood type and a healthy organ
NHS reciently sold every UK residents medical details - why ? i wonder ? insurance purposes
Thats only half the story
Dont dont go into the NHS on your own they will kill you if you have the right blood type and a healthy organ
NHS reciently sold every UK residents medical details - why ? i wonder ? insurance purposes
Fuck, man, what happened to just selling your plasma?
organ trafficking, eh? India, Pakistan, China, is it?
Oh, I think there is a network based out of a small democracy in the Eastern Mediterranean that has something to do with it.
Not sure, man...need a bathtub and a lot of ice...normally, that's the case....
Democracy? I thought you were talking about Israel for a minute there. Now I am completely stumped as to who you might be referring to.
Democracy? I thought you were talking about Israel for a minute there. Now I am completely stumped as to who you might be referring to.
There's an alternative to the suicide/insurance path of taking care of your family in desperate times: part yourself out. How much for the whole thing?
Only if she looks gooood and not older than 25.
Why buy a heart, when you can just barrow one? Unreal!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10146338/Organ-trafficking-a-deadly-trade.html
"Excuse me, but is that liver Kosher?"
And to think I gave up bacon for Lent.
Back in the 80's I worked for a developer in NYC. This particular developer was a family business, except you don't play with RE in NYC without a whole bunch of money and hired talent. (I was a stupid young kid.) Needless to say they were members of a certain tribe; the owners weren't particularly religious, although they did do a fair amount of praying to Mammon. The staff was stratified; the general help was Reform, the C-suite Orthodox, but the accounting department was Hassidic. *I* was there to satisfy any potental requirements with the EEO people in case it ever came up. Being white I was sufficiently acceptable.
Sooo, one day I'm called out of the office and told the boss needed a pint of my blood. This is a joke, right? No, four of us get packed into a cab and sent off to NY Presbyterian (imagine that) where we were to donate in his name. Well, I'm A-, not too common, and the staff told me that it was a match and my donation would be 'important.' I do believe there was a direct exchange.
Two weeks later the boss is back and attending a sycophant-sponsored party. I did the obligatory handshake and glad-to-see-ya bit, and then I leaned over and informed him that we were the same blood type.
You never saw a man's mood and complexion change so fast.
L'chaim!
Yeah right. 11 people responded to sell their organs. How many of those were "ruthless gangsters"? Remember, it was you who offered $50,000. You go try to actually buy those organs without losing your own...
Organ transplantation, not just the sale of organs, is gruesome and immoral in the nature of the case, whether it is consensual or not. "Brain-death," the criteria used to establish when a person has died so that their organs can be harvested, is unscientific and meaningless, and results in an unknown but significant number of medical murders. The very intention to prolong one's own life by appropriating the pieces of someone else's body is a crime against nature, a violation of bodily integrity, a distortion of the concept of medicine. I would never consent to be an organ donor, nor would I receive an organ from another.
The only thing worse than receiving an organ is getting a set of bagpipes.......
It's cannibalism but skips the digestive / cellular rebuilding processes.
You have to have read The Sunday Post to truly make sense of this.
Should really be called Sunday Piece of Shit, to be accurate.
I'd like to buy a whole person to take over for me when I die. But I'd like an Australian at the very least. Ok a Canadian but that's my rock bottom limit.
According to libertarians, this is a good thing. Everything should be for sale; the free market should have no boundaries whatever.
In some ways you are correct, but if it wasn't for the elites' thievery this would likely almost never arise.
As a for instance, people have donated kidneys to people on many occasions.
You miss the point of libertarianism, I think.
Why not enter into a bargain with me?
Congress, the Senate and the Fed beat me to it.
Here is an infographic Worth Of The Human Body On The Black Market http://www.moneyinside.ca/blog/finance/worth_of_the_human_body_on_the_bl...
At least hair and bone marrow grow back.
Maybe I'll sell mine for 120 Bitcoins and will include a bag of fava beans and a nice chianti.
New futures market opportunity?
You only own yourself if you want to abort babies. For all other purposes, you are property of the government.
I'm conflicted - kidney for paying rent ... or kidney for buying an ipad http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-19197542.
oh god, that's actually true. please someone stop the world. before celebrity salami becomes a reality.
steak and kidney pie. far superior to horse meat. 10 bucks for your mom.
"The Human Tissues Act" ... is their any question of our enslavement yet?
Alan Clamp, chief executive of the Human Tissue Authority which regulates live organ donations throughout the UK, said: “It is illegal to offer or seek payment for organs for sale under the Human Tissue Act, and no operation from a living donor can go ahead without our approval.
hahaha. and you thought you owned your body, serf.
I blame Heston Blumenthal for creating this market.
It only operates if you and they can prove you arranged and had the operation in the UK .
If you leave the uk armed with your email address to contact the buyer, make sure you use a third party, who only needs to know its a business transaction, do not swap any information that identifies you, and ensure you get paid in stages according to a set of agreements such as presenting an e mail confirming that your expenses for travel etc are released when you turn up in his foreign office in person, and that when tissue matching is complete and affirmed that your deposit is paid, and that the third party has confirmed that they hold the balance for release after success then there will be no problems.
You can agree terms and all the details and have the operation outside the UK and as no part of the arrangements took place in the UK it is outside their jurisdiction, as confirmed on their website.
The miracle of 'american' economics.
The free market at work.
Aint this world a beautiful place?
Welcome to an 'american' world. It is a cosy place to live in, you'll see.
Far as I can see, the only problem is they are not charging enough. No one should part with a kidney for less than $500k.