The Iranian "Stolen Passport" Passenger Plot Thickens

Tyler Durden's picture

While progress on the search-and-recovery efforts of the missing Malaysian Airlines jet continues to disappoint, the stolen-passport plot thickens considerably. While earlier we discovered that it was a mysterious "Mr. Ali" that purchased the tickets for the two passengers traveling on stolen passports (with cash), The Telegraph reports that BBC Persia confirms they were Iranian nationals. According to another Iranian friend (who had hosted them while in Kuala Lumpur) the two were "looking for a place to settle" in Europe (intending to complete their journey in Frankfurt and Denmark).


Correlation is, of course, not causation; and conspiracy theories are running rampant. As CNN notes,

"Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in INTERPOL's databases," said Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble in a statement.




"We have speculation run amok, because we have no facts," said Michael Goldfarb, a former chief of staff for the Federal Aviation Administration.

But it is clear by the level of investigation that authorities are 'interested' in these two gentlemen, we now know to be of Iranian nationality...

The two men said by Interpol to have been travelling on stolen passports on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously disappeared on Saturday have been identified as Iranian nationals.


A BBC Persia report quotes an Iranian friend of one of the men, who said he hosted the pair in Kuala Lumpur after they arrived from Tehran in the days preceding their flight to Beijing.


The friend, who knew one of the men from his school days in Iran, said the men had bought the fake passports because they wanted to migrate to Europe.




One of the Iranian nationals intended final destination was Frankfurt, where his mother lives, while the other wanted to travel to Denmark.


The same source that spoke to BBC Persia also emailed CNN with a photograph of him posing with his two friends in the days before they embarked on their fateful trip.


BBC Persia’s UN correspondent Bahman Kalbasi told The Telegraph that the two Iranians were “looking for a place to settle”.

Of course, Iran remains a troubled and stifled economy thanks in large part to US-led sanctions and (as The Telegraph notes)

US-led sanctions on Iran have plagued the economy and encouraged many young Iranians, who face high unemployment, to seek ways to travel to Europe, North America or Australia – legally or illegally.

So, to summarize: 3 days ago a Malaysian Airlines jet disappears suddenly leaving no wreckage... the passenger manifest included 2 Ukrainians... and 2 Iranians who were traveling on stolen passports bought for them in cash by a mysterious Iranian known as "Mr.Ali"... who hoped to emigrate to Europe (by way of Kuala Lumpur and Beijing)...

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HedgeAccordingly's picture

welp .. regardless ..SPX 2k tomorrow?

philipat's picture

They would have been detained in AMS because the Schengen entry point screens against the Interpol database, which includes stollen Passports. Iran has no axe to grind with Malaysia and there were no "High Profile" targets on board so this is looking more like a "Red Herring".

It's looking increasingly like either a cockpit fire which knocked out all communications but left the aircraft flyable for a while (In which case it could be anywhere within a 1000 mile radius from the point it lost contact until it ran out of fuel) or some type of catstrophic airframe failure. But expect the "False flag" innuendos to fly irrespective....

TwoShortPlanks's picture

My call is a midair wing tip separation and skin delamination of the outer wing area as a result of a bad repair job from a 2012 ground accident. The aircraft may have come down in one piece (small debris field) much like Gol 1907, but without the structural separation. Such a sequence of failure would show a wild directional movement (course change) followed by a large vertical velocity.

We have circumstantial evidence of this so far.

fonzannoon's picture

when the aliens magnetically sucked them out of the sky the pilots were in shock and awe of the bueaty of the strange lights and did not get a mayday out. Once the passengers successfully explain that wrestling is fake and grown adults still pay money to go to it and get all excited even though they know it's fake, sadly the passengers will no longer be needed and the anal probes will come out....

JohnnyBriefcase's picture

Im just going to assume that any info that comes out pointing at Iran comes from Israeli "intelligence".

SamAdams's picture

I wonder which firm provides security for Malaysia's airport and from where that security firm is headquartered?  This is something also worth checking into.

Supernova Born's picture

Iran has much to gain from angering China. Said no one ever.

National Blessing's picture

Mark my words.  The Muslims will be the death of us all.  Bastards.

wintermute's picture

You're all wrong. The plane crashed into the jungle on the island in "Lost". 

Difficult island to find, that one.

Anusocracy's picture

The worst of all possible fears.

Japan has unleashed Rodan against China.

mjcOH1's picture

Malaysia has its own history of domestic terrorism.   If, for the sake of argument, we're going to rush off and start making accusations that this was a terrorist incident, we shouldn't assume this involves Syria, the Ukraine, Iran, or the Jooos! just because those happen to be hot button issues in America.   The motive may well be an issue that is completely irrelevant to your average Walmart shopper. - "Malaysian Terrorists - Azahari Husin and Noordin Mohammed Top are terrorists from Malaysia responsible and as key persons in bombing incidents in Indonesia." -"Malaysian Airline System Flight 653 (MH653) was a scheduled domestic flight from Penang to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia, operated by Malaysian Airline System (MAS). On the evening of 4 December 1977, the Boeing 737-200 aircraft flying the service crashed at Tanjung Kupang, Johor, in Malaysia.[1] It was the first—and is the second-deadliest—fatal air crash for Malaysia Airlines (as MAS is now known); with all 93 passengers and 7 crew killed instantly.[2][3] The flight was apparently hijacked as soon as it reached cruise altitude. The circumstances in which the hijacking and subsequent crash occurred remain unsolved." - "The 2000 Kuala Lumpur al-Qaeda Summit was a meeting of several high-level al-Qaeda members held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000.
The meeting was held in the hotel room of Yazid Sufaat, a former Malaysian Army captain and businessman, in a hotel in Kuala Lumpur. The meeting lasted from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000." - "Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal was a member of a terrorist group dubbed the Portland Seven, some members of which attempted to travel to Afghanistan shortly after 9/11 in order to aid the Taliban. He was indicted and arrested in Malaysia in October 2002. In 2003, he was sentenced to ten years on gun charges and for conspiracy to aid the Taliban in fighting the United States and coalition forces....flew out of Portland International Airport en route to Afghanistan. On October 20, 2001, Ford and the two Bilals also took the same route out of the United States....The six male members of the group travelled to China in early 2002, with the intent of entering Afghanistan to aid the Taliban" - "Abu Sayyaf (About this sound pronunciation (help·info) AH-boo sah-YAHF;[needs IPA] Arabic: ????? ??? ?????; Jam??ah Ab? Sayy?f, ASG, Filipino: Grupong Abu Sayyaf) also known as al-Harakat al-Islamiyya[5] is one of several militant Islamist separatist groups based in and around the southern Philippines, in Bangsamoro (Jolo and Basilan), where for almost 30 years Muslim groups have been engaged in an insurgency for an independent province in the country....The group expanded its operations to Malaysia in 2000 when it abducted foreigners from two resorts. This action was condemned by most leaders in the Islamic world."

Tom Servo's picture

Maybe this guy could have been the target?


best i can gather he "sold technical storage solutions"... kind of a reach, but all I got...

/foil hat off...

DeadFred's picture

We the undersigned testify that politics and aviation don't mix:

Lin Biao, Juvenal Habyarimana, Cyprian Ntaryamira, John Heinz, Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, Seal team 6, Lech Kaczynski, Paul Wellstone, Ted Stevens, John Tower, JFK, Jr., Loretta Fuddy, Ron Brown and host of other Clinton bodyguards and aides.

Always look at the passenger list when a 'mysterious' plane crash happens. This one doesn't have the feel of a terrorist attack but if it was an assassination (the victim[s] don't need to be politicians, just someone powerful people thought needed to be eliminated) then it will be spun to be a terrorist attack. When I started to look for names to add to the ones I could think of off the cuff my jaw dropped at how many there are so I limited myself to politicians. I didn't know that the plane that Captain Scully landed in the Hudson had most of BofA's management on it. Did it really hit a bird?

0b1knob's picture

You forgot:  Walter Reuther (took two tries) , Dorothy Hunt, George W. Collins and Michele Clark (a three fer)

And all the US government employees killed on Pan Am flight 103?  What's that?  Not a single government employee killed?  Almost as if they were warned not to take that flight.



DeadFred's picture

I saw a different version. Where there's smoke there's often fire. The odds of fiore go up when there are massive, choking walls of smoke.

macholatte's picture


wing tip separation and skin delamination


Wasn't that one of the procedures done on Michael Jackson's nose?

Hulk's picture

LOL, the aliens have magnetic aluminum technology, I did not know that !!!

fonzannoon's picture

Is your entire world just crashing down all around you Hulk? I'm telling you Hulk. It's so possible your head is just spinning like a top right now.

Ctrl_P's picture

Magnetic Aluminium Technology...  now thats gotta be worth an IPO.

SamAdams's picture

I'm not buying what the zionists are selling.  Did anyone see that there were 20 employees of an automotive tech company aboard?  Might be something to check into.

Planes don't normally just fall out of the sky without some communication.  Now if the gauges were stuxnetted, showing normal path, one might fly directly into the ocean without knowing it.  Especially if at night.


bwdiii's picture

maybe. dunno about the history on that particular airplane, but there is a plausible correlation with the vague info reported that the plane "might have" turned around... if due to a big structural fail, the kind of thing the airline or mfr wouldn't like to announce.

Also consider the 777 is in constant telemetry streaming, highly likely the airline knows what it was doing on a second-by-second basis, and they say it "might have" turned back. or turned. or rolled...


StupidEarthlings's picture just askin...did it show "wild directional movent" prior to disappearing? ...



They know where it was last seen...

They know where to look.

Either someones lying bout something..or the alien story strangely enough is looking like the most realistic scenario. 



Meta_Consciousness's picture

I'm betting the plane absconded and will re-appear with demands. Or will be repainted and used in an operation to put troops behind enemy lines or something similar to a guided missile.


I love that CNN is giving voice to the calls demanding live streaming from every plane - in addition to the "after-the-fact" black box.


I guess they realized that when seconds count, the black box will be found eventually. 

fredquimby's picture

My call is that the plane fell simply apart after flying through fukushima pollution for the last 3 years.

Happy Anniversary btw.

Fuku bitchez.

quintago's picture

Malaysia is actually one of the few countries an Iranian can travel to without a visa. What is interesting is how fast they discovered this passport issue. That is what they should be looking into first and foremost.

CrashisOptimistic's picture

This may be barking up the wrong tree.  The buy was made in Pattaya, Thailand.  That's a popular adult services city and middle easterners are there often.  The travel agent has said the purchaser wanted the cheapest tix to Europe, which happened to connect through Beijing.

Frankly, this is credible.  This is what would happen in Pattaya.  I suspect this is either a red herring or the investigators just know nothing. 

Wjunk's picture

We can assume (if they two were religious) then they were Shiite, as Iran is a Shiite country.

Shiite's do not typically do the suicide attack thing, leaving that to their Sunni Muslims-in-arms.

I would be surprised to have it 'actually' be a 'suicide' bombing with Iranians as the perps.

Saudi Sunnis?  They were the 9-11 pilots, so yes indeed.  Much more likely and Saudi more likely to benefit from a few heapings of world condemnation on Iran.



gmrpeabody's picture

But..., I thought..., ya'll told me it was the CIA and FBI that flew those planes on 911.

Or was it the boy scouts...?

RaceToTheBottom's picture

Ever since 2007, I have vowed to assume that WS is at the bottom of every questionable action that occurs in the world.  My investments have risen considerably based on such a strategy.

I think some WS pukes shorted the airlines and manufacturers, and then decided to "help" them

Groundhog Day's picture

Maybe a UFO abducted the plane and the US and UK are just blaming the iranians

fonzannoon's picture

The technical term is "alien skank"

Antifaschistische's picture

Am I the only one who thinks it would be so cool if the plane showed up, setting in the Gobi Desert with no indication of any crash landing.  Just setting there....with the doors never opened, exit slides not deployed....and all the passengers missing.

crazzziecanuck's picture

After seeing a documentary on PBS where a Boeing worker was *HAMMERING* a window flashing into place really scared the bejeebers out of me.  Nothing like prestressing a piece of metal that will be subject to constant pressurization and depressurizing.  Vowed never to fly Boeing aircraft ever again, and so far, have been able to.

Tall Tom's picture

Iran has no axe to grind with Malaysia


LMAO. Phililipat... Iran is SHITE Muslim and Malaysia is SUNNI Muslim. It has the same axe to grind with Malaysia as it has to grind with Saudi Arabia. Are you not aware about the violent schism between those two factions?


That is what is making the Middle East blow up. Iraq is basically Shite but had a Sunni Leadership under Saddam Hussien. (That was one reason Saddam's Iraq could justify the war with Iran back in 1980-1988 as it was a fatwa.


It is my understandng, from my many interviews with many different Muslims, from Iran, Iraq, Saudi, amongst other "Nations" that Muslims are not supposed to kill other Muslims according to the Koran. (Personally I am a Christian but I am always very curious about other cultures.) They are to kill the Infidel whom renounces Islam. Even the National Boundaries are Western Fictions as they were forced into that by treaties after World War I. Most of the people are still tribal and Klannish to this day.


Now there was an "terrorist" attack by the Muslims in China. Most likely the events are connected. So Iran has an axe to grind with both China and Malaysia as China has been supressing the Muslims.

philipat's picture

There are large numbers of Shia who practise freely in Malaysia. There have been NO ploitical differences between Iran and Malaysia. Both Indonesia AND Malaysia have close political ties to Iran.

So why would Iran want to bomb a Malaysia Airlines flight bound for Beijing. Doesn't make sense and I stick with my view that the stollen Passports are a red herring and that this is an accident, most likely an electrical fire which knocked out all communications OR an airframe failure.

I'll get back to you when we know more.

Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

Cause of the loss of the plane? I'd put my money on mechanical failure attributable to damage caused by prior accident (see linked image) involving the plane:

A couple of people may have witnessed its descent:

philipat's picture

Actually, a wing tip is nothing. The 772 doesn't even have vortex-breaking "Winglets" on the wing tips. If a wing tip broke, that would NOT result in a total disintegration of the airframe, just perhaps slightly bumpy flight, nothing that the very sophisticated onboard computers could not correct for. It also would not explain the total loss of communications and with such damage the PF would have contacted the nearest field with a long enough runway, probably SGN, with a request for an emergency landing.

i-dog's picture

I'm no expert, and I hate to join into senseless speculation, but the thought does strike me that if there were a mid-air explosion, or massive airframe failure, or anything else causing a mid-air breakup (missile, etc), then there would be a large floating debris field that couldn't be missed by a wide search. Just sayin'...I have no theory and will join you on the sidelines until we have more [probably concocted] information.

philipat's picture

Hey dog, You're correct that of the aircraft exploded at its cruising altitude of 35,00Ft., it would lierally come apart and there would be a widespread debris field. Think TW 800. However, there are several other scenarios which would not necessarily result in the aircarft coming apart but all the avionics failing. A fire in the cockpit would be one. Think Valuair in The Everglades. The aircraft just became unflyable and nose-dived into terrain. No large pieces of aircraft were ever found. The largets piece found on the surface was, as I recall, less than a square foot.

There's a lot of South China Sea out there and it is also quite possible that it crashed on land, in areas of dense jungle, not the sea. What is really strange is that in either scenario, the ELT's (Emergency Locator Transmitters SHOULD have been activated. And there is some quite sophisticted kit out there searching yet nothing has been heard.

TheReplacement's picture

They're on an island.  Didn't you see lost?  At the end they found out that they actually... oh.  Well, let's hope it was quick and painless.

kaiserhoff's picture

This feels like a gas tank explosion.  You don't need four ringers to smuggle a bomb on board.  The aircraft must have hit the water at a steep angle, after a complete system failure.  I know it's boring, but a small fire or one spark could do that.

Crash Overide's picture

Black box? Emergency transponder? No Wreckage?

nmewn's picture

Its like some weird Saturday night in my youth.