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The Iranian "Stolen Passport" Passenger Plot Thickens

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While progress on the search-and-recovery efforts of the missing Malaysian Airlines jet continues to disappoint, the stolen-passport plot thickens considerably. While earlier we discovered that it was a mysterious "Mr. Ali" that purchased the tickets for the two passengers traveling on stolen passports (with cash), The Telegraph reports that BBC Persia confirms they were Iranian nationals. According to another Iranian friend (who had hosted them while in Kuala Lumpur) the two were "looking for a place to settle" in Europe (intending to complete their journey in Frankfurt and Denmark).

 

Correlation is, of course, not causation; and conspiracy theories are running rampant. As CNN notes,

"Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in INTERPOL's databases," said Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble in a statement.

 

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"We have speculation run amok, because we have no facts," said Michael Goldfarb, a former chief of staff for the Federal Aviation Administration.

But it is clear by the level of investigation that authorities are 'interested' in these two gentlemen, we now know to be of Iranian nationality...

The two men said by Interpol to have been travelling on stolen passports on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously disappeared on Saturday have been identified as Iranian nationals.

 

A BBC Persia report quotes an Iranian friend of one of the men, who said he hosted the pair in Kuala Lumpur after they arrived from Tehran in the days preceding their flight to Beijing.

 

The friend, who knew one of the men from his school days in Iran, said the men had bought the fake passports because they wanted to migrate to Europe.

 

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One of the Iranian nationals intended final destination was Frankfurt, where his mother lives, while the other wanted to travel to Denmark.

 

The same source that spoke to BBC Persia also emailed CNN with a photograph of him posing with his two friends in the days before they embarked on their fateful trip.

 

BBC Persia’s UN correspondent Bahman Kalbasi told The Telegraph that the two Iranians were “looking for a place to settle”.

Of course, Iran remains a troubled and stifled economy thanks in large part to US-led sanctions and (as The Telegraph notes)

US-led sanctions on Iran have plagued the economy and encouraged many young Iranians, who face high unemployment, to seek ways to travel to Europe, North America or Australia – legally or illegally.

So, to summarize: 3 days ago a Malaysian Airlines jet disappears suddenly leaving no wreckage... the passenger manifest included 2 Ukrainians... and 2 Iranians who were traveling on stolen passports bought for them in cash by a mysterious Iranian known as "Mr.Ali"... who hoped to emigrate to Europe (by way of Kuala Lumpur and Beijing)...

 

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Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:34 | 4532813 HedgeAccordingly
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welp .. regardless ..SPX 2k tomorrow?  http://hedge.ly/1bThYgM

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:49 | 4532848 philipat
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They would have been detained in AMS because the Schengen entry point screens against the Interpol database, which includes stollen Passports. Iran has no axe to grind with Malaysia and there were no "High Profile" targets on board so this is looking more like a "Red Herring".

It's looking increasingly like either a cockpit fire which knocked out all communications but left the aircraft flyable for a while (In which case it could be anywhere within a 1000 mile radius from the point it lost contact until it ran out of fuel) or some type of catstrophic airframe failure. But expect the "False flag" innuendos to fly irrespective....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:58 | 4532930 TwoShortPlanks
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My call is a midair wing tip separation and skin delamination of the outer wing area as a result of a bad repair job from a 2012 ground accident. The aircraft may have come down in one piece (small debris field) much like Gol 1907, but without the structural separation. Such a sequence of failure would show a wild directional movement (course change) followed by a large vertical velocity.

We have circumstantial evidence of this so far.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:15 | 4533007 fonzannoon
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when the aliens magnetically sucked them out of the sky the pilots were in shock and awe of the bueaty of the strange lights and did not get a mayday out. Once the passengers successfully explain that wrestling is fake and grown adults still pay money to go to it and get all excited even though they know it's fake, sadly the passengers will no longer be needed and the anal probes will come out....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:23 | 4533039 JohnnyBriefcase
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Im just going to assume that any info that comes out pointing at Iran comes from Israeli "intelligence".

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:41 | 4533082 SamAdams
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I wonder which firm provides security for Malaysia's airport and from where that security firm is headquartered?  This is something also worth checking into.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:52 | 4533115 Supernova Born
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Iran has much to gain from angering China. Said no one ever.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:35 | 4533288 National Blessing
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Mark my words.  The Muslims will be the death of us all.  Bastards.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 01:33 | 4533607 wintermute
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You're all wrong. The plane crashed into the jungle on the island in "Lost". 

Difficult island to find, that one.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:46 | 4533772 negative rates
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Something fishy in Denmark here, they were such good hosts, that they had to be informed of the bogus passports while staying there.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:47 | 4533774 negative rates
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You could be right, but once again, it will your fault.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:36 | 4533290 Anusocracy
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The worst of all possible fears.

Japan has unleashed Rodan against China.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:50 | 4533327 mjcOH1
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Malaysia has its own history of domestic terrorism.   If, for the sake of argument, we're going to rush off and start making accusations that this was a terrorist incident, we shouldn't assume this involves Syria, the Ukraine, Iran, or the Jooos! just because those happen to be hot button issues in America.   The motive may well be an issue that is completely irrelevant to your average Walmart shopper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Malaysia - "Malaysian Terrorists - Azahari Husin and Noordin Mohammed Top are terrorists from Malaysia responsible and as key persons in bombing incidents in Indonesia."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_653 -"Malaysian Airline System Flight 653 (MH653) was a scheduled domestic flight from Penang to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia, operated by Malaysian Airline System (MAS). On the evening of 4 December 1977, the Boeing 737-200 aircraft flying the service crashed at Tanjung Kupang, Johor, in Malaysia.[1] It was the first—and is the second-deadliest—fatal air crash for Malaysia Airlines (as MAS is now known); with all 93 passengers and 7 crew killed instantly.[2][3] The flight was apparently hijacked as soon as it reached cruise altitude. The circumstances in which the hijacking and subsequent crash occurred remain unsolved."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_al-Qaeda_Summit - "The 2000 Kuala Lumpur al-Qaeda Summit was a meeting of several high-level al-Qaeda members held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000.
The meeting was held in the hotel room of Yazid Sufaat, a former Malaysian Army captain and businessman, in a hotel in Kuala Lumpur. The meeting lasted from January 5, 2000 to January 8, 2000."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Bilal - "Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal was a member of a terrorist group dubbed the Portland Seven, some members of which attempted to travel to Afghanistan shortly after 9/11 in order to aid the Taliban. He was indicted and arrested in Malaysia in October 2002. In 2003, he was sentenced to ten years on gun charges and for conspiracy to aid the Taliban in fighting the United States and coalition forces....flew out of Portland International Airport en route to Afghanistan. On October 20, 2001, Ford and the two Bilals also took the same route out of the United States....The six male members of the group travelled to China in early 2002, with the intent of entering Afghanistan to aid the Taliban"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Sayyaf - "Abu Sayyaf (About this sound pronunciation (help·info) AH-boo sah-YAHF;[needs IPA] Arabic: ????? ??? ?????; Jam??ah Ab? Sayy?f, ASG, Filipino: Grupong Abu Sayyaf) also known as al-Harakat al-Islamiyya[5] is one of several militant Islamist separatist groups based in and around the southern Philippines, in Bangsamoro (Jolo and Basilan), where for almost 30 years Muslim groups have been engaged in an insurgency for an independent province in the country....The group expanded its operations to Malaysia in 2000 when it abducted foreigners from two resorts. This action was condemned by most leaders in the Islamic world."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:27 | 4533049 Tom Servo
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Maybe this guy could have been the target?

 

http://westchester.news12.com/news/ibm-executive-philip-wood-of-texas-am...

 

best i can gather he "sold technical storage solutions"... kind of a reach, but all I got...

/foil hat off...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:33 | 4533056 DeadFred
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We the undersigned testify that politics and aviation don't mix:

Lin Biao, Juvenal Habyarimana, Cyprian Ntaryamira, John Heinz, Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, Seal team 6, Lech Kaczynski, Paul Wellstone, Ted Stevens, John Tower, JFK, Jr., Loretta Fuddy, Ron Brown and host of other Clinton bodyguards and aides.

Always look at the passenger list when a 'mysterious' plane crash happens. This one doesn't have the feel of a terrorist attack but if it was an assassination (the victim[s] don't need to be politicians, just someone powerful people thought needed to be eliminated) then it will be spun to be a terrorist attack. When I started to look for names to add to the ones I could think of off the cuff my jaw dropped at how many there are so I limited myself to politicians. I didn't know that the plane that Captain Scully landed in the Hudson had most of BofA's management on it. Did it really hit a bird?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:02 | 4533153 0b1knob
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You forgot:  Walter Reuther (took two tries) , Dorothy Hunt, George W. Collins and Michele Clark (a three fer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_553

And all the US government employees killed on Pan Am flight 103?  What's that?  Not a single government employee killed?  Almost as if they were warned not to take that flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

 

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:03 | 4533163 ACP
Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:33 | 4533443 DeadFred
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I saw a different version. Where there's smoke there's often fire. The odds of fiore go up when there are massive, choking walls of smoke.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:42 | 4533085 Tom Servo
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Here's his linked in,

http://tinyurl.com/obk98g4

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:36 | 4533068 macholatte
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wing tip separation and skin delamination

 

Wasn't that one of the procedures done on Michael Jackson's nose?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:18 | 4533219 ClassicalLib17
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It's time to ban all firearms.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 02:54 | 4533663 i-dog
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... and aircraft!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:32 | 4533269 Hulk
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LOL, the aliens have magnetic aluminum technology, I did not know that !!!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:45 | 4533313 fonzannoon
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Is your entire world just crashing down all around you Hulk? I'm telling you Hulk. It's so possible your head is just spinning like a top right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61uWowYxzQ8

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:58 | 4551634 Ctrl_P
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Magnetic Aluminium Technology...  now thats gotta be worth an IPO.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:29 | 4533435 tip e. canoe
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LOL

Malay remix of the Norway Spiral?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:21 | 4533021 SamAdams
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I'm not buying what the zionists are selling.  Did anyone see that there were 20 employees of an automotive tech company aboard?  Might be something to check into.

Planes don't normally just fall out of the sky without some communication.  Now if the gauges were stuxnetted, showing normal path, one might fly directly into the ocean without knowing it.  Especially if at night.

 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:51 | 4533780 negative rates
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Your prolly right, they were testing their auto stuff on a plane and guess what, it was defective.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:01 | 4533146 bwdiii
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maybe. dunno about the history on that particular airplane, but there is a plausible correlation with the vague info reported that the plane "might have" turned around... if due to a big structural fail, the kind of thing the airline or mfr wouldn't like to announce.

Also consider the 777 is in constant telemetry streaming, highly likely the airline knows what it was doing on a second-by-second basis, and they say it "might have" turned back. or turned. or rolled...

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:05 | 4533159 bwdiii
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damn dbl post sorry

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4533233 StupidEarthlings
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So..im just askin...did it show "wild directional movent" prior to disappearing? ...

 

 

They know where it was last seen...

They know where to look.

Either someones lying bout something..or the alien story strangely enough is looking like the most realistic scenario. 

:/

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:24 | 4533421 Meta_Consciousness
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I'm betting the plane absconded and will re-appear with demands. Or will be repainted and used in an operation to put troops behind enemy lines or something similar to a guided missile.

 

I love that CNN is giving voice to the calls demanding live streaming from every plane - in addition to the "after-the-fact" black box.

 

I guess they realized that when seconds count, the black box will be found eventually. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 04:57 | 4533717 fredquimby
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My call is that the plane fell simply apart after flying through fukushima pollution for the last 3 years.

Happy Anniversary btw.

Fuku bitchez.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:08 | 4532977 quintago
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Malaysia is actually one of the few countries an Iranian can travel to without a visa. What is interesting is how fast they discovered this passport issue. That is what they should be looking into first and foremost.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:21 | 4533028 CrashisOptimistic
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This may be barking up the wrong tree.  The buy was made in Pattaya, Thailand.  That's a popular adult services city and middle easterners are there often.  The travel agent has said the purchaser wanted the cheapest tix to Europe, which happened to connect through Beijing.

Frankly, this is credible.  This is what would happen in Pattaya.  I suspect this is either a red herring or the investigators just know nothing. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:26 | 4533047 Wjunk
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We can assume (if they two were religious) then they were Shiite, as Iran is a Shiite country.

Shiite's do not typically do the suicide attack thing, leaving that to their Sunni Muslims-in-arms.

I would be surprised to have it 'actually' be a 'suicide' bombing with Iranians as the perps.

Saudi Sunnis?  They were the 9-11 pilots, so yes indeed.  Much more likely and Saudi more likely to benefit from a few heapings of world condemnation on Iran.

 

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:45 | 4533096 gmrpeabody
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But..., I thought..., ya'll told me it was the CIA and FBI that flew those planes on 911.

Or was it the boy scouts...?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:09 | 4532985 RaceToTheBottom
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Ever since 2007, I have vowed to assume that WS is at the bottom of every questionable action that occurs in the world.  My investments have risen considerably based on such a strategy.

I think some WS pukes shorted the airlines and manufacturers, and then decided to "help" them

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:31 | 4533057 Groundhog Day
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Maybe a UFO abducted the plane and the US and UK are just blaming the iranians

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:33 | 4533061 fonzannoon
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The technical term is "alien skank"

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:10 | 4533195 Antifaschistische
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Am I the only one who thinks it would be so cool if the plane showed up, setting in the Gobi Desert with no indication of any crash landing.  Just setting there....with the doors never opened, exit slides not deployed....and all the passengers missing.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 02:08 | 4533630 Dave Thomas
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The Lady Be Good Part ][

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:00 | 4533140 crazzziecanuck
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After seeing a documentary on PBS where a Boeing worker was *HAMMERING* a window flashing into place really scared the bejeebers out of me.  Nothing like prestressing a piece of metal that will be subject to constant pressurization and depressurizing.  Vowed never to fly Boeing aircraft ever again, and so far, have been able to.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:03 | 4533162 Tall Tom
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Iran has no axe to grind with Malaysia

 

LMAO. Phililipat... Iran is SHITE Muslim and Malaysia is SUNNI Muslim. It has the same axe to grind with Malaysia as it has to grind with Saudi Arabia. Are you not aware about the violent schism between those two factions?

 

That is what is making the Middle East blow up. Iraq is basically Shite but had a Sunni Leadership under Saddam Hussien. (That was one reason Saddam's Iraq could justify the war with Iran back in 1980-1988 as it was a fatwa.

 

It is my understandng, from my many interviews with many different Muslims, from Iran, Iraq, Saudi, amongst other "Nations" that Muslims are not supposed to kill other Muslims according to the Koran. (Personally I am a Christian but I am always very curious about other cultures.) They are to kill the Infidel whom renounces Islam. Even the National Boundaries are Western Fictions as they were forced into that by treaties after World War I. Most of the people are still tribal and Klannish to this day.

 

Now there was an "terrorist" attack by the Muslims in China. Most likely the events are connected. So Iran has an axe to grind with both China and Malaysia as China has been supressing the Muslims.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:45 | 4533312 philipat
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There are large numbers of Shia who practise freely in Malaysia. There have been NO ploitical differences between Iran and Malaysia. Both Indonesia AND Malaysia have close political ties to Iran.

So why would Iran want to bomb a Malaysia Airlines flight bound for Beijing. Doesn't make sense and I stick with my view that the stollen Passports are a red herring and that this is an accident, most likely an electrical fire which knocked out all communications OR an airframe failure.

I'll get back to you when we know more.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:54 | 4532859 Yes We Can. But...
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Cause of the loss of the plane? I'd put my money on mechanical failure attributable to damage caused by prior accident (see linked image) involving the plane:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576353/Malaysian-Airlines-Boein...

A couple of people may have witnessed its descent:

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/11/Kelantan-duo-report-see...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:47 | 4532938 philipat
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Actually, a wing tip is nothing. The 772 doesn't even have vortex-breaking "Winglets" on the wing tips. If a wing tip broke, that would NOT result in a total disintegration of the airframe, just perhaps slightly bumpy flight, nothing that the very sophisticated onboard computers could not correct for. It also would not explain the total loss of communications and with such damage the PF would have contacted the nearest field with a long enough runway, probably SGN, with a request for an emergency landing.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 03:05 | 4533668 i-dog
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I'm no expert, and I hate to join into senseless speculation, but the thought does strike me that if there were a mid-air explosion, or massive airframe failure, or anything else causing a mid-air breakup (missile, etc), then there would be a large floating debris field that couldn't be missed by a wide search. Just sayin'...I have no theory and will join you on the sidelines until we have more [probably concocted] information.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 06:49 | 4533776 philipat
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Hey dog, You're correct that of the aircraft exploded at its cruising altitude of 35,00Ft., it would lierally come apart and there would be a widespread debris field. Think TW 800. However, there are several other scenarios which would not necessarily result in the aircarft coming apart but all the avionics failing. A fire in the cockpit would be one. Think Valuair in The Everglades. The aircraft just became unflyable and nose-dived into terrain. No large pieces of aircraft were ever found. The largets piece found on the surface was, as I recall, less than a square foot.

There's a lot of South China Sea out there and it is also quite possible that it crashed on land, in areas of dense jungle, not the sea. What is really strange is that in either scenario, the ELT's (Emergency Locator Transmitters SHOULD have been activated. And there is some quite sophisticted kit out there searching yet nothing has been heard.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:30 | 4533055 TheReplacement
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They're on an island.  Didn't you see lost?  At the end they found out that they actually... oh.  Well, let's hope it was quick and painless.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:42 | 4532862 kaiserhoff
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This feels like a gas tank explosion.  You don't need four ringers to smuggle a bomb on board.  The aircraft must have hit the water at a steep angle, after a complete system failure.  I know it's boring, but a small fire or one spark could do that.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:53 | 4532913 Crash Overide
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Black box? Emergency transponder? No Wreckage?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:58 | 4532929 nmewn
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Its like some weird Saturday night in my youth.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:10 | 4532986 Leto II
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No wreckage implies it landed somewhere...either on land (now in hiding), or safely in the water (and promtly sank)..yet again, stranger things have happened...just look at the Flight 93 wrekage in Shanksville, PA.  

Editorial Note: Many laws of chemistry and physics were suspended that day, just ask the FBI, CIA, NSA, and NIST.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:14 | 4533001 The Alarmist
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Big ocean, small plane.  These things take time to unravel

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:47 | 4533102 nmewn
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In all seriousness, this is the correct posture.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:04 | 4533166 Leto II
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I actually agree, my original post was a little off the cuff.

They didn't find much of Air France 447 floating, and that took 5 days.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:56 | 4532922 Occams_Chainsaw
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It all started with a anti jet engine contrails video......

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:53 | 4533481 a growing concern
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Those damn chemtrail assholes up to no good again.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:24 | 4533234 Tall Tom
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Only one person is needed to smuggle a Bomb on board. IN THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO ALL MATERIALS WERE PURCHASED AFTER THE TSA CHECKPOINT AND BEFORE BOARDING THE AIRCRAFT..Watch it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6GpXAXmx8

 

The Bomb that took out Pan Am 103 fit into a transistor radio.

 

Aircraft at altitude are Metallic Balloons. There is 10 PSI in the Cabin and 2 PSI at altitude. That is a Differnce of 8PSI. A 2PSI difference will blow apart most Wood Framed homes.

 

But the little Pinprick from a small explosion will pop that Metallic Balloon at altitude.

 

It is far too easy.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 00:52 | 4533571 indygo55
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And the NSA has all the transcripts, texts, voice recordings and GPS positions of these guys. So whats the problem? Didn't the NSA spend hundreds of billions of OUR money on systems to stop or at least understand these kinds of events? Boston ring a bell? How about Sandy Hook? Didn't they know all about them too? i MEAN THEY must have, right?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:35 | 4532819 A Lunatic
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File this one next to the truth about Benghazi.......

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:46 | 4532878 NoDebt
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Yeah, because what possible difference could it make now?

Why is it I'm getting the feeling this whole passport thing is the "hey, look over there!" distraction of this whole sad affair?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:35 | 4532821 fightthepower
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I think Israel is going to use this as a false flag to get other countries to attack Iran.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:41 | 4532857 Muppet Pimp
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It is nothing short of curious that while the Iranians are negotiating their nuclear program with the rest of the world they have gone and made a shipment of arms that was caught and also blew up an airliner.

Where did that Malaysian 777 land anyway?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:57 | 4532926 Ifigenia
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so they are mad iranians, something like MEK

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:40 | 4533076 BLOTTO
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A middle east conflict would be the powder keg we are looking for...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:36 | 4532824 DoChenRollingBearing
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Hmm, we´ll see.  If the Iranians DID get on board a Malysian international flight with fake passports, well shame on Malaysia.  

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:43 | 4532867 philipat
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Yes, but it happens all over the world all the time, most of which is people smuggling and drug running. Actually, the most important thing is the security checks, which are very good in Malaysia.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:30 | 4533054 williambanzai7
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I think if you check the exit routine at JFK you will be shocked.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:28 | 4533254 Tall Tom
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Exit Routines? Check out this video. This is a World Exit Routine...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6GpXAXmx8

 

It is too easy.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:38 | 4532836 fonzannoon
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Alien skank.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:45 | 4532877 A Lunatic
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Janet Yellen.....

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:47 | 4532887 NoDebt
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George Bush's fault.  Clearly.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:54 | 4532915 nmewn
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Hah!

Thats what they want you to think! There's only one man capable of fucking up a perfectly good passenger jet and leave without any trace that he was ever even over there.

Joe Biden, he's an evil genius that one ;-)

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:51 | 4533476 MsCreant
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He did it from his front porch.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:02 | 4532960 Sathington Willougby
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He took their parachutes and jumped again?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:40 | 4532846 augie
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Why is no one talking about the 20 co-workers onboard who worked in the semiconductor industry?

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL2N0M602O20140309?irpc=932

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:55 | 4532918 LeisureSmith
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You just did, and now i know. Interesting.

Danke.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:56 | 4532920 jonjon831983
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Also 24 chinese artists

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230336990457942687284...

 

"Among the people believed to be on the plane was a group of painters and calligraphers. The group of 24 artists, organized by business-to-business e-commerce network IBIcn.com, had traveled to the Malaysian capital last Wednesday for an exhibition of their work, according to earlier reports by Xinhua News Agency.

Among them was Meng Gaosheng, vice chairman of the China Calligraphic Artists Association, and Maimaitijiang Abula, a 34-year-old oil painter and ethnic Uighur from Xinjiang. Their names and those of two others named in previous news reports about the exhibition match those on a passenger list."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:03 | 4532961 Ifigenia
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The chosen people Monica`s boyfriend ordered the bombing of China embassy because those scavangers just brought to the house a relic of the stealth bomber crashed in Yugoslavia. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:40 | 4532855 The man with po...
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How long until the media narrative changes and they are CONVINCED it was Iran who blew up that plane?

Sadly how many people will belief in this BS?

Seriously most people accept that politicians lie and governments are rather self-serving in their interests. Yet those same people refuse to believe that this same government would ever do something to directly attack the nation or its citizens- AND cover up afterwards the fact it was a false flag.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:59 | 4532940 agent default
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When was the last time Shiites did a suicide attack of this type?  Sounds strange. And over what? 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:33 | 4533097 willwork4food
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Just like the drought in the western US is caused by (you) global warming, they get to tax that. Just like the housing bubble was because of greedy people(you) they got bailouts tax free.

Never let a good tragedy go to waste.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:42 | 4532861 Seize Mars
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Well the Telegraph and BBC Persia said so.
Are they Mo'Happy? Or Mossad?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:45 | 4532870 LeisureSmith
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Setteling in Europe sounds super terroristy and getting atomized mid air on the other side of the planet is the first and most logical step in that ominous sounding endeavour. They were Iranians after all and we all know them Iranians do crazy shit like that all the time.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:52 | 4532895 Carl Popper
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They blew up a Malaysian airline because it is totally crazy, and that is the one airline no one would ever expect Iran to blow up. No motive. The perfect crime.

Damn you crazy Iranians!

Damn you to hell!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:59 | 4533490 MsCreant
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How many Iranians must get shot down,

Before you can call them Iman?

The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:45 | 4532876 Lone Deranger
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Chip implants are right around the corner

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:46 | 4532880 Carl Popper
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Just a boring plain vanilla immigration scam.

Or was it? Lol

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:04 | 4532964 chump666
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Looks like a scam.

Money on S-75 a Fang Song and some fat finger.  Terrorist explosion would have to be a mighty shoe bomb!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:47 | 4532886 Kirk2NCC1701
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Let me know it was some Saudis, so we can exhale and relax. /s

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:54 | 4532916 Carl Popper
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Yeah cuz them Saudis are our friends, so if thet get all jihady on our ass it's ok.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:59 | 4532928 Sathington Willougby
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We'll just bow down and accept lots of gifts and shut down all our domestic production.

For you partisan asswads, Bush and Obama suck the prince off regularly.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:05 | 4532967 Carl Popper
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Well...there is a difference. We partisans know that Obama enjoyed it more.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:09 | 4532984 Sathington Willougby
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Probably accurate judging from his marriage to a bigfoot.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:08 | 4532979 Ifigenia
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Doped by Soros, the saudis were victims too. They dont confirm not deny because they have to protect their friends, Bush and Dick.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:48 | 4532891 nmewn
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(Running past this carrying scissors with my hair on fire)

Jooos! CIA! Putin! Bungleburgers! Winklevoss! Global warming! Non-union mechanics! HAARP! Ukrainian wives on-line! Sandy Hooking!...aaaagggghhhh!!!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:57 | 4532925 Sathington Willougby
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Winklevoss?  Really?  The name strikes fear in the heart of, uhmm, rowers?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:05 | 4532968 nmewn
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Thats right!

If Zuckerberg would have never got into the BitOar game they coulda been contendahs!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:00 | 4532950 Carl Popper
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U fergot comtrails, illuminati, and the trilateral commission.

And it's burgerbuilders dumbass

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:07 | 4533133 mjcOH1
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Let's not overlook Skull & Bones, The Bush Cartel, Knights Templars, and the Grays.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:02 | 4532952 nonclaim
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I blame space aliens, they have been out from news headlines for a long time.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:04 | 4532963 Sathington Willougby
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Apparantly your subscription to the Weekly World News lapsed bc I read about them all the time.  And Mr Fuzzy Wuzzy's wedding too.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:37 | 4533289 ClassicalLib17
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NMEWN,  You forgot Schlitz Malt Liquor

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:50 | 4532904 Maxter
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I heard 2 interesting on the subject:

-It appears that people bording plane with flase passport is common in this part of the world.

-If the plane somehow "land smootly" on the see and then sink, you are less likly to find debris floating around.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:57 | 4532923 Carl Popper
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If it landed smootly in the see then the pilats would have had time to radio for hep.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:38 | 4532983 Maxter
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I agree.  But if it crashed I though we would have seen debris by now. Or maybe they are not looking at the right place?  But then again, the plane can't go really far between the moment they lost contact with it and the actual crash (or else the pilots would have had time to radio for help).

 

Edit:  Also I read somewhere that a family member tried to phone the cellphone of someone who was in the plane and it rang and even picked up(?) :

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vanished-malaysia-airlines-flight-le...

and
http://thecount.com/2014/03/10/missing-jet-mystery-passenger-cell-phones...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:52 | 4532911 Mine Is Bigger
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I am more curious about the five people who checked in but did not board the plane.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:53 | 4532912 ArrestBobRubin
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MOSSAD WAS HERE

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:05 | 4532966 Quus Ant
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"Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man- that state is obsolete.

A case to be filed under "M" for mankind. 

In the Twilight Zone.........."

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:55 | 4532919 agent default
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False flag.  US is trying to get back to Russia over Ukraine by implicating Iran and pushing for unilateral action. 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 20:58 | 4532932 erkme73
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The sad thing is, if you stop any international flight, on any route, at any given moment, there's a pretty good chance that at least a couple of people are on it with stolen credentials.  Big surprise.  This is nothing but a huge distraction (at best), or setting the stage for another false-flag (non)attack propoganda piece.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:00 | 4532943 medium giraffe
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what a warm moist pile of mooshit.  pull the other one, it plays fucking jingle bells 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:00 | 4532948 Apostate2
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There were 152 Chinese nationals on that flight also. The Ministry of Truth has issued the following directives to the press (sotto voce). 

Central Propaganda Department: The media may not independently analyze or comment on the lost Malaysian flight. Related coverage must strictly accord with authoritative information issued by the Civil Aviation Administration of China and with Xinhua News Agency wire copy. The domestic aviation department can promptly provide related information to passengers’ family members. All media must refrain from interviewing family members without permission, and must not incite any discontented sentiment. All media continue to give increased publicity to the Two Sessions.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:07 | 4532975 nonclaim
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"and must not incite any discontented sentiment"

They should spend a day here at ZH for desensitizing.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:12 | 4532994 Sathington Willougby
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Summarize in two words:

Turrurists Diddit!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:01 | 4532951 sosoome
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At this point, what does it matter?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:04 | 4532962 GrinandBearit
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Nothing but MSM propganda and ZH eats it up.

Those 240 people are gone.

End of story.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:15 | 4533005 Ifigenia
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China may contract experts from the chosen people to made this tragedy and industry like the Holo and blame it on Japan. Money talk.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:18 | 4533016 Carl Popper
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Boring!

I think They managed to swim to a deserted island and pretty soon they will be barbecuing long pork and singing campfire songs.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:16 | 4533008 Stuck on Zero
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Just about now all the passengers are camped out on a beautiful beach worrying about smoke monsters and "the others."

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:44 | 4533309 ClassicalLib17
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Maybe the plane kept flying straight ahead instead of following the cuvature of the earth and ended up in outer space?  How much oxygen do they have on board for the passengers?  Is there enough time for the... Oh, that's right, they grounded the space shutle. Never mind

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:22 | 4533011 yogibear
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The US supplied enough shoulder fired SAMs to the Muslim brothehood and others. Besides the Chinese sell them as well.

Terrorist don't need to board planes anymore.

All the terrorist need to do is distribute shoulder fired SAMs around all the major airports in the US.  It would instantly ground all traffic. It would be like the earth stood still movie.

It's pretty sad when goverments/CIA  hand out these weapons like candy

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:19 | 4533022 Oxygen
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In normal Time this story would be 'boring'
But i think the timing is weird.
I see two things:
1) distraction about what happening
In Ukraine (start of WW3)
2)this plane Will serve for an false flag
To Bring others country (Iran) into the conflict.

Why not? More people we are, more fun
We have ..

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:46 | 4533317 ClassicalLib17
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Perhaps a beer summit is in order?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 05:43 | 4533730 ebear
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"1) distraction about what happening
In Ukraine (start of WW3)"

WW3?   We're up to WW5 already.

Try and keep up please.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:20 | 4533024 GumbyMe
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In summary, let this be a step in demonizing cash transactions, so that our bankster friends and their cronie government officials can keep track of everything we do.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:28 | 4533026 One eyed man
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An editor at BBC Persian told The Telegraph that the two Iranians were “looking for a place to settle”.

The two red herrings are now resting comfortably on the Pacific sea floor.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:21 | 4533030 Aquarius
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From all the facts to date - admittedly from some really suspect MSM sources, and all sorts of weirdo's,

There is one possible alternative that meets the following 'ends':

No communications (NO Mayday) - No Black Box Homing Devices - No Debris - No oil slicks - No missile signatures - No ground radar trace -Nothing at all including visuals. From its flight position it should have been at cruising altitude of roughly 10,000 metres.

So consider an Electro-magenetic Pulse (EMP) weapon fired from the edge of Space. Five (5) seconds and its all over; fully controlable and Geo-placeable with plauseable deniability using the typical and official "Conspiracy Theory" techniques.

Follow the spoore.

A Message to the Leaders of all Asian Nation: "Don't Tread Here"

Ho hum

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:25 | 4533044 Oxygen
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Ok, sound good, but where are the parts of
The plane, because it should had crash
With no electronic system.
The plane cant dissapear like this.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:48 | 4533324 ClassicalLib17
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Unless, once again,  they didn't follow the curvature of the earth and ended up in outer space.  Duh!

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:44 | 4533093 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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That may not actually be too far from the truth if everything just cut out at once with no explosion. Whatever happened was catastrophic if not deliberate also. Not many nation states have EMP capabilities and that satellite orbits are well regulated it wouldn't be too hard to figure out what satellites would have been in orbit in the general area to do such a thing when the plane went dark. NORAD would most certainly know if that was the case.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:48 | 4533105 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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But before we start going there.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

...

Hong Kong's Air Traffic Control Center reported on Mar 10th 2014 around 17:30L (09:30Z) that an airliner enroute on airway L642 reported via HF radio that they saw a large field of debris at position N9.72 E107.42 about 80nm southeast of Ho Chi Minh City, about 50nm off the south-eastern coast of Vietnam in the South China Sea and about 281nm northeast of the last known radar position. Ships have been dispatched to the reported debris field.

Vietnam's Headquarters for the Search and Rescue operation of MH-370 confirmed receiving the report by Hong Kong's Air Traffic Control Center stating that a Hong Kong based airliner reported a large field of debris while enroute on airway L642. A Thai cargo ship in the area was asked for assistance and has set course to the area but did not find anything unusual so far. A second vessel asked for assistance did find some debris. Following this finding Vietnam's Maritime Search and Rescue Services (MRCC) dispatched a ship to the debris field.

Hong Kong's Civil Aviation Department confirmed a Cathay Pacific flight from Hong Kong to Kuala Lumpur spotted large amount of debris while enroute off the coast of South East Vietnam.

According to The Aviation Herald's radar data the aircraft was last regularly seen at 17:22Z (01:22L) at position N6.9 E103.6 about half way between Kuala Lumpur and Ho Chi Minh City (Vietnam) at FL350 over the Gulf of Thailand about 260nm northnortheast of Kuala Lumpur and 90nm northeast of Kota Bharu 40 minutes into the flight, followed by anomalies in the radar data of the aircraft over the next minute (the anomalies may be related to the aircraft but could also be caused by the aircraft leaving the range of the receiver).

Aviation sources in China report that radar data suggest a steep and sudden descent of the aircraft, during which the track of the aircraft changed from 024 degrees to 333 degrees. The aircraft was estimated to contact Ho Chi Minh Control Center (Vietnam) at 01:20L, but contact was never established.

...

Malaysia's Defense Ministry said, that as result of the verified discrepancies between passenger manifest and people on board of the aircraft, the Austrian and the Italian, the entire manifest is under scrutiny. At least 4 names are suspicious and are being investigated with the participation by the FBI from the USA.

...

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:04 | 4533265 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%2...

Since the Tyler(s) keep hinting at it.

Ukraine
Oleg Chustrak
Sergii Deineka

http://kp.ua/daily/070314/442764/

translatedto english

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2...

They both were residents of Odessa and as the translation says familiar with each other.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:52 | 4533329 ClassicalLib17
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Unless, of course, they crashed into one of your key satellites when they entered outer space from not following the curvature of the earth.  Okay,  I've had more than one drink this evening.  Grin and bear it.  I do think there might be some possibility to what I have conjectured.  Or do I mean postulate?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:34 | 4533281 chump666
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Very possible, but the plane wouldn't explode.  SAM or AAM missiles would completely obliterate the plane, may take months to find the blackbox's if they are in tact.    The ground controllers wouldn't pick up a missile.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:55 | 4533338 ClassicalLib17
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I hear it gets hot when you leave earth's atmosphere in a rocket.  But they get hot because they fly too fast.  These folks were only traveling at 500 mph.  Slower speed, no major heat build up.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 01:20 | 4533597 Againstthelie
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Isn't an airplane a faraday cage?

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 23:24 | 4533033 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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How does one mistake Iranians with an Italian whose name is Luigi Marald and an Austrian named Christian Kozel if they were using their stolen passports, doctored photos or not? Even lax security standards and not checking passports against the Interpol database aside that should have set off reg flags right there. Iranians don't look European and Iranian expats tend not to have Europeanized names like that either.

Something don't add up here....

 

It is almost like the same politically correct affirmative action equal opportunity hire comedy writers who work at the state department who wrote the Benghazi talking points are writing this script too.

Next up youtube video blasphemizing allah as the excuse if they go the terryism route.

You know in the old days the comedy writers would at least get the names straight like grabbar boobee and iban farten would have been on the passenger manifest.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:37 | 4533072 observatory
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the romanian and israeli TV channel mentioned the usage of emp two days after the crash of polish plane in smolensk in 2010. The weapon - unimaginable? For a statistical sheep it just mad tin-foil-hatter talk. Yet, they got it. THEY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUZZ3XflO-M

strange thing with these QQ accounts... and phantom calls

 

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:45 | 4533098 _SILENCER
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That plane is in the ocean. They're all ghosts now.

 

MSM: It's got to be the Ooga Booga terrorists!

 

Fear not, Americans, the TSA is here to keep you safe. Can't happen here.

 

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:58 | 4533351 ClassicalLib17
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Imagine how lucky are the ones who had a window seat?  Unless they were flying over North korea.  It looks pretty dark there at night from outer space.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:51 | 4533112 Piranha
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terrorist organizations usually come out and take the blame, this is probably just an accident

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:52 | 4533117 FilbertH
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Are we sure that there was not someone connected to FOREX trading on that flight? Or perhaps an irritating someone who would be otherwise difficult to "disappear".

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4533122 DIgnified
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Malay ex machina.  

 

"Thanks for the help with the protesters."

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:54 | 4533123 Rising Sun
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akbar did it

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 21:58 | 4533126 One And Only
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The NSA has naked pictures of your wife.

It will help them solve the mystery. The authorities are feverishly investigating all webcams and studying body language for any clues.

Mon, 03/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4533142 Whoa Dammit
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The two men who were travelling with the stolen passports were Iranian Ukrainians. Both had the same last name: Oswald. Brave and heroic  passengers discovered their true identity and the nefarious plot to kill  dear leaders in powerful countries. The passengers ditched the jet into the sea, sacrificing themselves to save their betters. (Oscar winner in 2016).

 

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