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Russian Troops Open Fire In Crimea, Reuters Reports As Kerry Delays Russia Visit
That Ukraine "drill" may be coming at just the right time. Just out from Reuters:
- RUSSIAN TROOPS OPENED FIRE DURING TAKEOVER OF UKRAINIAN MILITARY POST IN CRIMEA, NO ONE WOUNDED -INTERFAX QUOTES UKRAINIAN BASE COMMANDER
More:
Russian troops opened fire with automatic rifles during a takeover on Monday of a Ukrainian naval post in Crimea, Interfax news agency quoted a Ukrainian officer as saying.
The unnamed officer from the motor vehicle battalion of the Ukrainian navy said Russian troops broke in to the base near the inland town of Bakhchisaray some time after 2 p.m. (noon GMT), took mobile phones from the Ukrainians and began trying to remove vehicles. None of the Ukrainian troops was hurt and the base commander was trying to negotiate an end to the action.
Further details were not immediately available. Russian forces who have taken control of a number of military installations across the Black Sea peninsula have not so far exchanged fire in anger with Ukrainian troops.
And at the same time:
- RUSSIA'S PUTIN SAYS TOLD FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV TO INVITE U.S. COUNTERPART KERRY FOR MORE CONSULTATIONS ON UKRAINE
- RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER LAVROV SAYS HAD INVITED KERRY TO RUSSIA TODAY, BUT KERRY SAID ON SATURDAY HE WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE VISIT
- RUSSIA'S LAVROV SAYS RUSSIA HAS OWN PROPOSALS TO RETURN UKRAINIAN SITUATION TO THE FRAMEWORK OF INTERNATIONAL LAW, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION INTERESTS OF ALL UKRAINIANS
No de-escalation yet. Any minute now though. The market said so.
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Lots of guns in one place? What's the betting on one of them going off occassionally?
yes accidents happen...
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/022/4/8/nobody__s_putting_a_gun_t...
We should mind our own busin… Actually, I think, the expression “mind your own BUSINESS” should be replaced with “mind your own FOODSTAMPS”. ;-)
Looney
The Ukranian military are only good to cash in checks. When push comes to shove, they have NO patriotism and are not willing to die for their Country. Their behavior during this invasion of their soverignity shows that they don't deserve to be independent. Freedom is something that you earn, not some guaranteed state. And history is clear on this freedom is only earned with blood, when you give in, its over.
It seems to me that in front of the Russian military they Ukranians and lowering their pants and bending forward in all fours!
So, 'patriotism' is dying for an unelected government's 'right' to control territory that the majority of the population has voted to leave?
Moron.
I am sure that election was monitored closely by the UN.
If a simple vote is legal reason for a section of a country to join another country then I guess it is legal for a section or State of the US to vote and secede from the US.
Stuff can get ugly, look at Syria, unlike Syria, it can be good that there's asymmetry in military might, otherwise it could drag for years, decades.
in thick germn accent:
de escalation is going exactly as planned
or would it be ze escalation?
either way
escalation on schedule
English:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18jWXbZY8U
Russian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_T_axyzLM
German (original):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOyz8yS5cc
What is the Ukraine navy doing on Russian territory anyway?
You mean Yiddish accent LOL.
In a café in Kharkov, in eastern Ukrain, unknown individuals shot two people with a Kalashnikov.
The incident occurred at Norma "café," at the intersection of Lenin Avenue and Bakulina Street. The cafe' is located next to the Kharkov National University of Economics. Kharkov Attorney Eugene Popovich confirmed the incident. "I can confirm that there are victims," said the prosecutor.
According to eyewitnesses, the shooter drove up to the cafe and made the first shot at a man, who was sitting at table. The man was killed on the spot. His companion was wounded, and was still alive at the time when ER doctors arrived, but later died. A cafe waiter was also injured. The offender left his weapon on the crime scene.
According to preliminary information, one of those killed was Evgeni Slonevsky - a man related to of the largest currency conversion center in Kharkov. Through the center, many businessmen cashed their assets to avoid paying high taxes.
https://plus.google.com/116074381760606950686/about?gl=US&hl=en-US
http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/10-03-2014/127076-kharkov_ukraine...
The Zionist plot is unfolding.
good if the asymmetry leans towards your belief system, otherwise... not so much
When did the majority of the population vote to leave?? I thought the referendum was on the 16th?
Must seek better informants.
Or... It could be they are under orders not to fire on the Russians as that is exactly what the little napoleon, Putin is trying to incite. He wants any excuse at all to start a full on assault under the pretense that he is 'protecting Russians'.
"under the pretense that he is 'protecting Russians'."
And yet protecting Russians is exactly what he is doing. Napoleon was still a General and a damn good one at that. History has ridiculed him because of his stature but he was against the central jewish banking regime and for that reason he was exiled. Putin is also against the Jewish banking regime. He's no angel but at least he has stopped the creep of these insane bankers and their mission to take the world into private hands and control us all in a neofeudal system of debt slavery. Their plan may fail and Putin is the reason for that.
A referendum represents the opinion of the people in the purest form. Any repressive goverment will attempt to stop a referendum because of that very reason. They are frantic about this one coming up. The people cannot be truely heard. But if they are heard and the word gets out, then more people will want to be heard as well. It will spread. Look what they did in Greece with Papandros. He declared a referendum and he was gone by sundown.
Exactly, it took an unholy Alliance of bankers and nobility from every part of Europe to stop Napoleon. It was the only thing they could agree on, because as soon as he was gone, the infighting and jostling for control resumed.
They knew they were at risk of extinction, if Napoleon had the opportunity to pick off Russia, Germany, England, one by one.
which is probably why history has painted Napoleon as a petty tyrant.
" And history is clear on this freedom is only earned with blood, when you give in, its over." So true, just ask the French
Big words, easy words
I didn´t know you were Ukrainian...? Insider - tips are always the best shit.
For an "invasion" where people are "opening fire" on each other, there's a suspicious lack of casualties.
The "Drill" just went live. But then again, don't they always do. IE. 911.
Let me rephrase that: I'm getting tired of all this kabuki theater bullshit. Unless I see scores of dead Ukrainians/Russians, I'm going to believe that anything happening in Crimea is just for show.
The ''majority'' can fuck off back to their own shithole of a country..
"The Ukranian military are only good to cash in checks. When push comes to shove, they have NO patriotism and are not willing to die for their Country. " They are not willing to die for the 1%. Ask the families who lost loveones in Iraq, if they know the truth would not they sue George Cheney?
How does having a government make a person free?
Yes, America should be minding it's own business. Giving back Mexico's gold for example!
THEY WANT IT ALL BACK BUT CAN'T GET IT!
Have not heard that before. No sarc. What is the story if you do not mind me asking?
@Lonney: “mind your own FOODSTAMPS”. ;-)
I would argue that "QE are foodstamps for Wall St" and "EBTs are foodstamps for Peasants"
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same...
Nothing changes here, till DC has its American Spring. "March(ing) Madness", anyone? Anyone? [crickets]
And the 'Defense' (/Empire) Budget is foodstamps for the MIC.
Hint: the White House is made of wood
Rothshild was right....te market ralliedoff the lows once this story broke on gunshots
All things considered, this has been a rather civil invasion so far.
I'm praying it stays that way...
Hell of a lot more folks getting killed in Chicago than in Ukraine. Hope it stays that way.
Just goes to show how well our handlers have us trained to accept so much.
This is why 543 putz's can control our lives through legislation
This i why 2.2 million military can control 330 million in case of marshall law
This s why 100k IRS employees can make 330 million pay taxes
They got it on lockdown
and the people are outgunned
you have an ar15...they have a mach 3 jet with missiles
It was only a rabbit !
the whole stand off reminds me of - 'duck season!, ' rabbit season!', 'duck season!'...
.thats no ordinary rabbit....Look at the bones! and its got teeth!
McPain get all his liquid protein from Rent Boy!
Perfection!
Banzai, that's good stuff, lol
Kerry runs fast when he hears gunfire
Isn't he supposed to be a war hero? Swiftboating and all that?
Hero's are the dead ones
Agreed the saying goes: "soldier that runs today is alive for another battle". There is a reason Kerry is alive!
Soldier that runs today is alive for another battle's running away.
Hmmm... there's something wrong with that idea somewhere..
Don't stand behind him...or else you might get your ass trampled.
There are old soldiers and bold soldiers but there are not any old bold soldiers
Yes, but he is a bloated chicken, not a soldier
@not so migh...: "Heroes are the dead one."
So are Saints. Oligarchs and Clergy are the living and comfy ones.
But keep turning "the other cheek", cause you read it somewhere, or some Programmer told you. Even though instincts tell you otherwise and that's not how the laws of Nature work, unless you're a rock.
yes, he went on vacation to vietnam once...
yeah and his hair got messed up, purple heart sort of shit
Kerry probably decided it was a good time to play golf. Learning from the best, right?
The dirt under his nails is more worth than the blood of thousand Goyim. He's only doing god's work.
I hear they were distributing full size Lurch posters for target practice.
No Russian troops start a fire and cook some marshmallows on it, is the truth ;)
AMERICA SHOULD SEND IN OBSERVERS!!!
THAT WILL TEACH PUTTIN A LESSON!!!!
AND BECAUSE I WANT TO WATCH THIS ON YOUTUBE!!!
Watch it here on Youtube....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DZP3fYurqU
America has sent "observers"
They sent the OSCE - ostensibly a European but their key man is closely associated with USAID and the Rockerfeller Foundation
http://www.dw.de/warning-shots-block-osce-observers-from-entering-ukrain...
Then there's the Blackwater (sorry, Xe...sorry, Academi, whoops!) operatives - they are "observing" in Donetsk right now.
http://rt.com/op-edge/ukraine-blackwater-mercenaries-russia-794/
See, lots of "observers" ;o)
MDB
Thanks for the RT of Blackwater/Xe/Academi disciples...
Sure hope the money they are getting paid is worth the "enemy non-combatant" status they will be facing from the Russians' paramilitary if they get caught?
Yeah, Nemo, apparently the locals were yelling "Blackwater" and "Faggots" at them ;o)
They will get plenty of experience of the latter in a Russian Gulag :O)
Wow, I had no idea Blackwater re-branded twice in three years, in order to remove the stink! Crazy! Tells you a lot about the times we live in. Don't clean up your act, or shut down, no, no, no, simply re-brand, with a new Board of Directors!
They are relatively safe, there is an agreement between ruskies and oreon to send all terrorists to Guantanamo for interrogation.
Kerry was just self-nominated for another purple heart, for potentially being near potential combat. Close call John.
Another near death experience for him. Will the sacrifices for his country never end?
He's afraid If he breaks a leg, someone might put a round in his neck.... so when you go to Russia John, break a leg.
He's looking for greener pastures.
Did he stub his toe while trying one up Hitlery dodging fantastic sniper fire?
Mr.Kerry, beware the Ides of March, beware the Ides of March!
He is not Caeser, he´s just an errand boy of Caeser
Listen to this shriveled old bitch from ABC News. Talk about a Cold War relic that needs to be retired with the "Minute-Man" stockpile!
The last 3 minutes is a hoot.
What will you do Mike?... What shall we do "says Martha"?...
Not a fucking thing!
When did Sandra Bernhard join ABC news?
Don't know.
But look at the new "Major General" that heads the strategic missile command that has replaced all of those bad mischievous rabble rousers and drunks with 30 year careers? Somebody needs to ask ABC News if this "new kid" is a dual citizen?
Looks like the Air Force traded a face lift for some "Rhinoplasty".
So the first concern Mike had was a 150 point drop in the Dow????
We are so screwed.
seeing a double top, but that doesn't mean much anymore...
Russian Troops are poor shots --- risk-on!
They are not necessarily poor shots.
The piece said, "No-one wounded."
how do you say "he hates these cans!" in Russian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcwz8-EfFYE
I was being facetious, btw.
Didnt look like it 08/08/08 when Georgia attacked South Ossetia......
http://www.alternet.org/story/112457/that_was_no_small_war_in_georgia_--_it_was_the_beginning_of_the_end_of_the_american_empire/
Mr. Kerry - Please take your oversized chin and heinous plastic surgery and return to your yaught post haste. Sever all communications. You've embarrased us enough.
nowaday, a politican couldnt show his truth talents? everything have to be coreographe by a bunch of experts?
russian vice-PM Rogozin uses the N word (putting noocular option on the table)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0MQLT3PXc
in December 2013.
bomb Russian food supplies and starve the fuckers
Rising Sun said:
And that is the halls mark of Ukrainian Junta Citizenism.
The group, the group, the group, the group. Submission, submission, submission, submission. Deny reality, deny reality, deny reality, deny reality.
That is cult.
Ukrainian Junta Citizenism: abandon all common sense, ye who enters here.
Why?
Here is my simple plan. Give NYC, DC and LA to Israel (on second thought, lets keep Southern California). Let them keep the Fed Bank/Dollar complex. Move the Capital to Denver.....oh we keep the military, sorry Israel and good luck!
hmm, how about NO! let's deport all dual passport holders back to Israel, problem solved. besides, Mexico already has SoCal.
you mean the ex President of Israel Central bank?
There are a lot of Dual Passport holders in Government, you might want to look into it.
who care about the government? moneymen first. NO money no talk.
"Russia bombs McDonalds and other burger joints".
America collapses.....
Regards.
Big Mac in Russia only costs a little over half compared to in US.
another in wall street to finish the horsetraders.
Oddly enough I can't find that nugget: RUSSIAN TROOPS OPENED FIRE DURING TAKEOVER OF UKRAINIAN MILITARY POST IN CRIMEA, NO ONE WOUNDED -INTERFAX QUOTES UKRAINIAN BASE COMMANDER : anywhere on Reuters. But I did see this (Reuters) - A whistleblower will be paid $63.9 million for providing tips that led to JPMorgan Chase & Co's agreement to pay $614 million and tighten oversight to resolve charges that it defrauded the government into insuring flawed home loans. :What should be more relevant to ZH readers?
Agreed. A little astray.
Yeah ZH quality is rapidly droping these days.
Gold inching up...and the miner stocks can't make up their minds whether to follow the markets or gold...
Dammit! You told!
Now it on the down again, you fool! ;o)
C'mon Ukraine...we need a WAR to mask our failing economy.....we paid you nazis, so get with it....
and you thrust the nazis.
Is Kerry waiting to build his forces to lead the counter attack with his swift yacht?
As Bad as Kerry is (and He Sucks) he beats anyone of these pricks: https://www.facebook.com/notes/we-are-all-vittorio-arrigoni/list-of-politicians-with-israeli-dual-citizenship-/175479365845092
And if youv'e never served a day in uniform... STFU........ kerry fished a guy out of the water under fire..that's more than any one of you Phuckers ever did and Kerry is still a NEOLIB-CFR-NWO-POS
Before moving to Boston, Kerry's family name was Kohn.
Putin's plan going well.
Stop West from "liberating" all signatories to Ghadaffi Gold for oil attempt.
Egypt saved with Russian promise of military resources. Syria rescued with Russian intervention. Crimea needed to protect TURKEY.
Iraq invaded because of Saddams intention to sell oil for euros. Afghanistan to pressure Iran's border.
Saudi Arabia pulling support for Syrian rebels is interesting in light of US/Isreal arms shipments to Iran.
Ya, Putins plan is going pretty well.
Well Rand Paul seems to be in inline with the Rebulican view of we must do everything in our power to stop Putin. Not like his father thats for sure....
I don't like or trust Ron and his kid is not to far from the tree.
Yeah, me neither. That old man is obviously scheming to control/kill us all. I'm sure he's come up with a new way to achieve absolute power for himself, you know outside the traditional channels of war mongering and scape goating. You are so smart robertocarlos.
The US will do what its military/intelligence apparatus wants it to do - international laws and norms be damned. This has been going on since November 22, 1963:
Over the past several days, it has emerged that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has been illegally spying on the US Senate Intelligence Committee—the very legislative body that is charged with overseeing and regulating the agency—in flagrant violation of legality and the constitutional separation of powers.
Among the basic conceptions of the revolutionaries who created the American system of government was the conviction that the natural trajectory of government, left unchecked, was toward executive tyranny. To combat this tendency, the Founders designed a system in which state power was divided among separate branches of government. The separate branches, under a system of “checks and balances,” were meant to limit the powers of the other branches. Legislative oversight of federal agencies, including intelligence agencies, is one historical outgrowth of this conception.
The revelations of CIA spying on Congress underscore the fact that America is run by an unelected, unaccountable military/intelligence apparatus. It is this apparatus, in conjunction with the corporate-financial elite, that dictates official policy in Washington, irrespective of which political party is in power.
The outlook of those who run this apparatus is one of utter impunity and contempt for basic democratic principles. In the day-to-day activities of the intelligence agencies—spying, conspiracy, infiltration, subversion, torture, assassination—the limitations imposed by the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and existing law are seen merely as impediments to be evaded or overridden. This contempt for democratic rights is consistent with a political system that as a whole carries out its reactionary foreign and domestic policies over the heads of the population, which overwhelmingly opposes them.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/10/pers-m10.html
But perhaps even more to the point:
NEO-American Intel Meltdown
By Gordon Duff
March 4, 2014
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/04/neo-american-intel-meltdown/
"You won’t read about it anywhere. We could say the problem, and that term is an understatement, was caused by many factors. This is not the truth. We know who caused it, we know why. Insiders call it an “apocalypse.” It is the utter and absolute collapse of American intelligence capabilities.
"If current American policy seems disjointed, inconsistent and unfocused, there is a reason. American government is, and has been, more than “blind.”
Gordon is actually right on this one but the problem goes back a lot further. The privatization of the intelligence and essential 'national security' is just the final touches on this long term project. They've been slowly rolling it out in stages. The first big one was the Federal Reserve in 1913. Next was 60s and Vietnam war with the outlawing of the draft to turn the military from the idea of being a 'well regulated' militia with everyone having skin in the game so it functions sort of like a check against government when it civilian based as opposed to what it is now a standing mercenary army that functions and recruits based on paychecks and pensions not patriotism. Guess who was the biggest proponent of privatization in the NSA pre 9/11 why one James Clapper himself.
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/digital_blackwater_meet_the_contractors_...
...
The outsourcing plan was finalized in 2000 by a special NSA Advisory Board set up to determine the agency’s future and codified in a secret report written by a then-obscure intelligence officer named James Clapper. “Clapper did a one-man study for the NSA Advisory Board,” recalls Ed Loomis, a 40-year NSA veteran who, along with Binney and two others, blew the whistle on corporate corruption at the NSA.
“His recommendation was that NSA acquire its Internet capabilities from the private sector. The idea was, the private sector had the capability and we at NSA didn’t need to reinvent the wheel.”
Hayden, who was the NSA director at the time, “put a lot of trust in the private sector, and a lot of trust in Clapper, because Clapper was his mentor,” added Loomis. And once he got approval, “he was hell-bent on privatization and nothing was going to derail that.” Clapper is now President Obama’s director of national intelligence, and has denounced the Guardian leaks as “reprehensible.”
...
It is kinda ironic that this came back to bite him in the ass in the form of Edward Snowden.
We saw a sea change in the market overnight. There was a massive intervention by the BOJ in the USD/JPY and for once the equity algos/traders weren't fooled into risk-on. Looks like some air is going to come out of the balloon
I think it would be funny if Kerry were the only person shot during this entire invasion.
Rest assured, if he goes over there he will sit on some shrapnel to get another medal. Maybe he'll throw it over the WH fence again
I might be remembering wrong but didnt it turn out he threw other peoples metals over the fence but kept his.
Rest assured this will turn into a 100 fat contracts for ACADEMI, KBR, United Technologies, Oshkosh and all the usual suspects.
Think of the infrastructure in place that "built" the Iraq and Afghan armies - now in Ukraine.
Turn-key military.
This was all in the pipeline months ago.
Must have a reason to put a country into more debt anyway.
Special effects or it is for real?
Ukraine UFO Top Secret US Military ‘Sky Dreadnought’? (Video)
I think I would find a better source than that website.
While wur still in the mood - A real professional Russian ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSbNjXnLg5M
"Think of the infrastructure in place that "built" the Iraq and Afghan armies - now in Ukraine."
The irony of politics. Building shit for other people is patriotic. Building stuff for ourselves is socialism.
Readers beware.
"Russian" troops or "Russian" forces.
Troops of Moscow, Russia ?
or .... troops of ethnic "Russian" residents of Ukraine/Crimea?
The MSM enjoys conflating the two "Russians" without distinction.
Yet, the MSM will over and again repeat that Blackwater presence is not 100% verified.
A selective application of journalistic standards which reinforces prejudices.
Rent Boy has probably installed Blackwater mercs in newsrooms to "keep order."
Oh come on Kerry........be a sport. And take a few other assholes with you.
Don't shoot Kerry's hairdo......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkv_mJa4MNE
Do the fucking Russians not know the lyrics to Bombs Over Baghdad?
This "Conflict" may very well raise the Benchmark on how to take over a "demographically-friendly region"*, as the Crimean Militia and their Russian backers have shown.
Pay attention, you brain-dead or self-serving fucks in DC and DOD! But I understand: How would a plotician get campaign funds or a general have a cushy job after the DOD, if they didn't feed the MIC?
* Note that the Regions that the DOD and their NATO lackeys like to "Help" (INVADE!), are NOT "Demographically-Friendly".
The reality of today's world summarized :
Oil situation :
http://iiscn.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/jlliquidsworld.jpg
Leading to :
http://iiscn.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/bp-oil-price-2013.jpg
In other words current crisis is primarily a monstruous oil shock, and only the beginning.
Reminder :
Contrary to the legend on the above graph (barrel price), the first oil shock was much more the direct consequence of US 1970 oil production peak :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/US_Oil_Production_and_Imports_1920_to_2005.png
Associated to the rebalance of barrels revenues between majors and countries, and dropping of B Woods in 71 and associated $ devaluation.
The "embargo" an epiphenomenon, very limited, lasted 3 months, but pratical to hide US peak and "put the blame" on "the Arabs".
Geopolitical summary :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Seal_of_United_States_Central_Command.png/768px-Seal_of_United_States_Central_Command.png
The information release so controlled right now. Who knows what to believe is really happening in Ukraine. What is reported is often convenient to the rhetoric of the WH and does reflect reality. Same goes for the main news sources in Kiev or in Russia. The information war wages on.
Take a look around, Ming. You would have to be blind not to see what is happening in the world right now. The positioning going on and the race for "real" assets.
The world is tired of American hypocrisy and being told what to do or, "We will cut off your funding." As if we are the Sugar-Daddy to the world. Other countries like their independence as well. Independence in American means, "You can do whatever you want to as long as it is what we want you to do, when and how we want you to do it". I say, BS! Come to my house and tell me what to do. See how far that gets you. Why would it be any different with countries? Are they sovereign or not?! If they are, then leave them alone unless they are bothering you. If they are not, then who do they belong to?
I am amazed at the amount of war rhetoric and strong arm pushing that has gone on in conservative circles the last few days. Even Ted Cruz got in on the "we have the right to make them" montra.
The Russians have been cool customers so far. By now we would have killed at least 2500 including 500+ civilians. But that would be okay because we are Amurika, land of the free because of the "brave". Well let me tell you somethiing about the so called brave and the flag wavers that push them into this nonsense. Right now America has a hard time with 4500 killed in the last 12 years in the little skirmishes with the third world countries in the middle east. How do you think they will do with that many dying each day and the daily threat of nuclear warheads raining down? That is what we are talking about here people. The Russians don't mess around. Just ask Hitler and Napoleon. Who the hell do we think we are to demand that they "obey" us as if we were their boss or daddy? People are not thinking this through.
Bill O'Reilly calling for us to crush the Rubble with the Dollar. Warmongerers calling for us to freeze Putin's bank accounts. Sanctions this and sanctions that. Shipping oil and gas to Western Europe, because we have so much to spare, and then they won't have to buy from the nasty Russians. Really? And we act as if Russia has no leverage like massive oil and gas reserves, a pretty well armed standing army, China as an ally, major economical ties, and not the least of which are all those nuclear subs and warheads. This is a loosing proposition at best. We need to walk away now and mind our own business. If the Bund Bank wants the Ukraine, then let the Germans go get it. Last I knew, the Ukraine was part of Russia back in 1992 and the world didn't mind then. Why bother now?
Last of all, I haven't seen Russia make any military threat against the Ukraine. They have defended their naval base which is reasonable. The Crimean Parliment voted to join Russia (of course this is meaningless because it goes against what the US and Europe wants) and the people will vote the same in a few days. So be it. Who gives a rat's ass? The bankers that's who! Well the bankers can pound sand or get a gun and do their own work. America will have to decide if they are a free nation or just the muscle for the banking cartel. Seems O'Reilly is okay with the cartel thing.
Definitely the last thing, why is Ted Cruz and everyone else talking about the "freedom" of the Ukranian people as if they will somehow be "free-er" under EU rule than they will be under Russian control. What is the frickin' difference?! Can they own personal firearms in either place? Not no, but hell no! Then under either's control they won't be free. It is just a matter of whose slaves they will be.
Ho ho ho, Cruise is married to a tentacle of Goldman-Sux and is probably a crypto neo-con.
Cruz hero is Major Kong
"why is Ted Cruz and everyone else talking about the "freedom" of the Ukranian people?"
Because they hate Ukranians freedom. They just want to supress their freedom and make the ukranians like the 99% of us.
Wonder if this "worthless yellow relic" asset class is going directly to FRA or JFK?
War is the proof that politicians are failures to the people of the world...
their failure our death
So....Russkies and Ukes are firing their shooting irons, and how exactly does this affect the continental USA's security?
In fact, I could care less what their problems are, other than a general aversion everyone shares about unnecessary violence.
Our Rent Boy and Mr Kohn need to chill out. I am not supporting any military action by the US or the out-dated NATO.
so the georgian Stalin not only killing russians, he also killed a lot of ukranians.
It was a genocide aimed at the independent, fairly prosperous small scale farmer. Many of whom lived in Ukraine, but many of whom lived in Russia as well. It was more class warfare than ethnic genocide, from what I have gathered (not that it makes it 'OK', but different motives means it wasn't a result of Russians hating Ukrainians, as it is often seemingly portrayed).