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Meet The 2 Iranians At The Center Of The "Stolen Passport" Plot

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"The more information we get, the more we're inclined to conclude that it was not a terrorist incident," says the Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble according to CNN, as details of the 2 Iranians at the center of the "stolen passport" uncertainty are identified. As CNN reports, Noble gave their names and ages as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 18, and Delavar Syed Mohammad Reza, 29 and added "they are not likely to be members of a terrorist group." Of course, the more dismal unknown is that of the entire plane and its passengers and crew which remain missing without a trace.

 

 

Via CNN,

The two passengers in question entered Malaysia using valid Iranian passports, Noble said at a news conference. But they used stolen Austrian and Italian passports to board the missing Malaysian plane, he said.

 

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Noble gave their names and ages as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 18, and Delavar Syed Mohammad Reza, 29.

 

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Further, there's no evidence to suggest either was connected to any terrorist organizations, according to Malaysian investigators.

 

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"We have been checking his background. We have also checked him with other police organizations of his profile, and we believe that he is not likely to be a member of any terrorist group," Khalid said.

 

CNN obtained an iReport photo of the two men with two of their friends, believed to have been taken Saturday before the plane disappeared. In it, they are posing with the two others, whose faces CNN has blurred to protect their identities.

Of course the biggest factor is now what happened to Flight 370? CNN sees 4 scenarios:

1. Scenario: Mechanical failure?

Fact: The absence of a debris field suggests the possibility that pilots were forced to ditch the plane and it landed on water without breaking up, finally sinking to the ocean floor.

Analysis: But if that were the case, then why no emergency signal? These planes are able to perform a "miracle on the Hudson" maneuver. They have the ability to glide more than 100 miles and belly land on the water with both engines out, says former 777 pilot Keith Wolzinger, now a civil aviation consultant with The Spectrum Group. During the time it would take for a plane to glide 100 miles, it seems likely that pilots would be able able to send an SOS.

Fact: The missing plane had suffered a clipped wing tip in the past, but Boeing repaired it, and the jet was safe to fly, said Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya on Sunday.

Analysis: "Anytime there's been previous damage to an airplane, even though it's been repaired, and repaired within standards ... it kind of sends a warning flag," says Wolzinger. Experts agree the Boeing 777 is one of the world's most reliable aircraft. During its development it was subject to some of the most rigorous testing in commercial aviation history. "I've been talking with colleagues," Wolzinger says. "We're all baffled by this." The 777 boasts some of the most powerful and well-tested engines in the world, he says. "The reliability of airliner engines in general is impeccable these days," he says. "This is a safe plane."

2. Scenario: Pilot error

Fact: So far, there are no known indications that pilot error contributed to the aircraft going missing.

Analysis: Some aviation experts have compared Flight 370 to the crash of Air France Flight 447 in 2009. All 228 passengers and crew died when the plane went down in a storm in the Atlantic en route from Brazil to Paris. After an expensive, nearly two-year search across the deep ocean floor, the twin-engine Airbus A330's wreckage was finally found and the voice and data recorders recovered. A French investigation blamed flight crew for failing to understand "they were in a stall situation and therefore never undertook any recovery maneuvers." But unlike Flight 447, weather was reported as good along Flight 370's scheduled route and didn't appear to present a threat.

Asiana Airlines Flight 217 -- a Boeing 777 -- fell short during a runway approach last July at San Francisco International Airport. Three people were killed and more than 180 others hurt. National Transportation Safety Board investigators have focused on pilot reliance on automated flight systems as a possible contributor to the crash, but a final report has not yet been released.

3. Scenario: Bomb? Or 'dry run'?

Fact: Two stolen passports have been linked to people who held tickets for the flight.

Analysis: This points to the possibility that someone on a terrorism watch list may have boarded the plane and blown it up. However, the stolen passports don't necessarily mean the plane was an actual target. It's possible, says former U.S. Department of Transportation Inspector General Mary Schiavo, that terrorists may have been performing a "dry run" for a future attack. Or, Schiavo said, "it could be just criminal business as usual," because "there are lots of stolen passports" used by travelers around the world.

Fact: So far, no debris field of plane wreckage has been linked to the 777, which would indicate a bomb blast.

Analysis: When Robert Francis, former vice chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, heard about the missing plane, his immediate thought was: "For some reason the aircraft blew up and there was no signal, there was nothing." The fact that the plane disappeared from radar without warning indicated to Francis "there was something unprecedented that hasn't happened before."

What about satellite technology? Is it possible that data from orbiting satellites might show a flash or infrared heat signature from an explosion? Very unlikely, says satellite expert Brian Weeden, who spent years tracking space junk in orbit for the U.S. Air Force. Dozens of government and private satellites orbit the earth, looking down from distances from 300 kilometers to 1,500 kilometers (185 to 930 miles). It's a long shot that one of them coincidentally floated over at the exact right time and location to capture a flash from an explosion.

However, there's an "off chance," Weeden says, that a super secret U.S. government satellite orbiting 22,000 miles in space might have grabbed evidence. These satellites are in geosynchronous orbit. As a group, they can observe virtually the entire globe. "We know that their mission is to detect ballistic missile launches via heat," says Weeden, now a technical adviser for Secure World Foundation. "We don't know if they're sensitive enough to track something like a bomb blast, even if that's what happened."

Then there's another unanswerable question: Would the government hesitate to release such an image for fear of revealing the satellite system's ultraclassified capability?

4. Scenario: Hijacking?

Fact: Before it disappeared, radar data indicated the plane may have turned around to head back to Kuala Lumpur. Is that a clue that a hijacker had ordered the plane to change course?

Analysis: So far, there have been no reports that the flight crew sent any signals that a hijacking had occurred.

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Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:18 | 4534763 Grande Tetons
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5. Scenario, Abducted by aliens. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:21 | 4534779 john39
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meanwhile, israel now claims that the lockerbie bombing of Pan Am 103 was carried out by Iran...

http://www.jpost.com/International/Iranian-ex-spy-to-Al-Jazeera-Khomeini-ordered-downing-of-Pan-Am-flight-103-344994

according to netanyahu, the boy who cried wolf was just a piker.

 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:32 | 4534834 Infinite QE
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Someone needs to hack the NY Times and post on their landing page: "Netendafeckinyahoo DNA not Jewish. Another Khazar found."

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:51 | 4534885 UnpatrioticHoarder
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It has emerged the co-pilot of flight MH370 routinely smoked in the cockpit and entertained femaie passengers there too:

http://www.theworldasittrulyis.com/?p=146

so here is another scenario: a fire started in the cockpit, destroying the plane's most critical avionics, the plane flew under limited control for at least an hour but without proper instruments fell into the sea on the Western side of the Malay peninsula.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:00 | 4534964 fonzannoon
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those chicks are pretty hot.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:19 | 4535048 Divided States ...
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its obvious that there are two levels of dissemination of news...one is brought out by the MSM for the sheeples...and the other is brought out by the 1% for the 1%.

The NR says that the plane changed course and couldnt be detected by civilian radar...well its obvious that there are other classified radar/satellites in this high tech world today that can track anything real time. Some people already know what happened (and probably they caused this incident as well) while us sheeps can keep fiddling our fingers trying to figure it out based on the tidbits of information they will leak out to us over the next few days to weeks.

Much like what will happen when the stock market crashes one day for no particular reason....its been known and planned by a small group of people way ahead of time and the sheeples wouldnt know what hit them all of a sudden.

Also, this airplane incident is taking a lot of attention that it looks like the Ukraine situation is all 'fixed up' now.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:21 | 4535067 Grande Tetons
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The NR says that the plane changed course and couldnt be detected by civilian radar...

Yeah, sounds familiar....that play has been run at least four times before. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:25 | 4535374 New England Patriot
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Big difference between hijacking and stolen.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:58 | 4535520 CrashisOptimistic
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Just as an FYI, radar sees airliners two ways. 

Direct paint of the target with radar pulses and reflection of those pulses back to the radar antenna.

Second, the airliner has a transponder.  It replies to each incoming radar pulse with a return pulse containing altitude info.

There are probably radar dead spots sufficient range from the radar antenna, but the maps I have seen don't suggest it was far enough away for that to be so.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 22:57 | 4537041 Independent
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Brought down by USA space based laser, they needed a distraction from the embarassment going on in Crimea and how impotent we looked.  Heck if we can shoot beauty queens dead at antigovt rallies in other countries why couldnt we snuff a plane full of Chinese.  I mean there are a lot of them out there.  Millions die each year just in flooding.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:28 | 4535097 SilverIsKing
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Divided States => BINGO!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:17 | 4535950 TORNasunder
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I was thinking about this earlier. In our current age of ridiculous and overlapping mass surveillance are you telling me nothing was watching that part of the sky? I am certain the tracking of ALL aircraft, including small private, by the big boys is 'very' high on the priority list and has been occurring for a long time.

Somebody(s) knows exactly where this plane is.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:36 | 4536011 mendolover
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Australia sure has it's share of attractive blondes.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:03 | 4534980 Bunders
Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:37 | 4535408 Dave Thomas
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Car hitting dumpster *priceless*

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:48 | 4535200 Zymurguy
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Sounds more like the pilots and some ho's got stoned and diverted the plane to Bangcock where they met up with John Kerry on his Yaught and are on a multi-day bender playing hide the sausage with all sorts of painted ladies.

Party on!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:34 | 4535401 LFMayor
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Then, they ALL died mysteriously at 3 different hotels by auto asphyxiation.

hey, that's how they got Carradeine!  And they were trying to do it to Paul Walker, but he chewed through the ropes and tried to make a getaway in that Porsche.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 16:18 | 4535587 Overfed
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So what if he smoked in the cockpit? Ever try to light anything on fire with a lit cigarette? Try it and get back to me.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:34 | 4535992 mendolover
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You are kidding right? How many people die in house fires caused by smoking in bed?

A smoker (or ex like me) can relate to the experience of dropping a cigarette in a car for example and having go right where you can't get to it.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:37 | 4536021 mendolover
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Great find!  I love ZH comments!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:36 | 4534855 Confused
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Better ask Winston Smith about the original story. Looks like his department. Unless he already threw the evidence down a memory hole. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:56 | 4534946 max2205
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Maybe it'll show up in PA sometime

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:00 | 4534962 Ifigenia
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the party has already made new guideline for a more veritable version of the facts. It was a pinoy terrorist attack trying to stick it to the gooks (anyway it happen on gooks terrirory), as a form to  attract the ire of the dragon. So, it could facilitate a troika: japs, gooks and pinoy, with the golfer leading from behind (by the way, isnt it dangerous having someone leading from behind? specially when this one is an activist forf lesbian and gay.)

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4534787 fonzannoon
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it is clearly becoming undeniable that aliens skanked the plane. I have been ridiculed and poo poo'd for putting forth this scenario. But I am confident in it and look forward to Michael Snyder cutting and pasting my hard work and analysis in coming to this obvious conclusion.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:29 | 4534819 Omegaman2211
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'20 Mind Blowing Stats That Prove MH370 Was Taken By Aliens'

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:35 | 4534845 Grande Tetons
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51 reasons why the Zoltarians want our gold. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:07 | 4534994 NoTTD
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And our White Women.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:23 | 4535369 g'kar
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It was the Eye Creatures:

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwc6VADe_Lo

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 17:46 | 4535865 Independent
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That and Malasyia is a moslem country with extremists in its population, perhaps some work as baggage handlers.  The second detonating bomb always brings down the plane.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:31 | 4534800 Levadiakos
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It as all the makings of the promising opening to a 1950s SciFi thilla

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4534818 XitSam
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6. Pilot colaborating with 2 bad guys

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:38 | 4535142 SilverIsKing
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New reality show:

"Keeping Up with Pouri and Delavar"

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:31 | 4534828 McMolotov
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Tin-foil isn't just for hat-making. I use it to construct underwear that'll fend off alien probes.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:38 | 4534863 fonzannoon
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You are a good man McMolotov. When my people come to colonize this planet you will be on the protected rolls, and no harm will come to you.

Several doubters on here that I have kept track of however will have to narfel the Garthok.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:02 | 4534974 Ifigenia
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or for sado games?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:49 | 4534920 Payne
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could the aircraft electronics have been hacked to give false guidance ? yes.  Would the pilots have figured this out eventually? yes.  Pilots were also instructed to contact control at a certain point in the flight, they did not.  Total elec failure or fire in cockpit ? maybe.  Aircraft would be flyable with limited navigation.  That would really suck at night.  With smoke in cockpit you descend to less that 10,000 feet.  Elec failure, fire with no radio and no navigation, possible.  Where would they have gone to land ?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 16:55 | 4535718 KnightTakesKing
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How do you hack a B777 at 35,000 feet?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:40 | 4536033 Georgiabelle
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Apparently Boeing and the FAA were concerned enough about the 777's vulnerability to hacking to issue this special ruling in November of 2013:

 

https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/18/2013-27343/special-c...

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:18 | 4534764 NOTW777
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sounds like the conclusion is: they are iranians therefore they could not possibly be terrorists???

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:54 | 4534936 Sophist Economicus
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The one on the left definitely looks Austrian.    WTF!!!!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:11 | 4535011 BLOTTO
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Maybe due to the Boston Bombing 'story' - it would be hard for 'them' to tell the masses it was 'two kids' again that hoodwinked everyone and slipped by undetected...

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:56 | 4536076 Georgiabelle
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Perhaps they wanted to live a lifestyle that is frowned upon in Iran and were emigrating to Europe's more tolerant culture.  Wasn't it Ahmedinejad who said that there are no gays in Iran? It makes sense, especially given that Thailand, where they visited before boarding the flight, is notorious for its sex trade. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:20 | 4534767 NOTW777
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dupe

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4534812 Levadiakos
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You can say that again!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:20 | 4534774 ParkAveFlasher
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Not terrorists then?  Good thing you released their names and identities!  Smooth move, Interpol A-Holes!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:29 | 4534820 Mr Pink
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Something tells me they aren't worrying about their privacy at the moment

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:04 | 4534989 Ifigenia
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just as a precaution, collect their bios for NSA

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:00 | 4535252 NotApplicable
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They're dead. What difference does it make?

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:20 | 4534775 stopthejunk1
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5. Beamed up to Mother Ship.  Passengers and crew currently undergoing vivisection in high orbit.  Lizardmen loves them some tasty sapiens livers!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4534781 stopthejunk1
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"Would the government hesitate to release such an image for fear of revealing the satellite system's ultraclassified capability?"

They wouldn't need to release any photo, obviously.  They'd just direct the search toward that area... doh.

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