Meet The 2 Iranians At The Center Of The "Stolen Passport" Plot

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"The more information we get, the more we're inclined to conclude that it was not a terrorist incident," says the Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble according to CNN, as details of the 2 Iranians at the center of the "stolen passport" uncertainty are identified. As CNN reports, Noble gave their names and ages as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 18, and Delavar Syed Mohammad Reza, 29 and added "they are not likely to be members of a terrorist group." Of course, the more dismal unknown is that of the entire plane and its passengers and crew which remain missing without a trace.



Via CNN,

The two passengers in question entered Malaysia using valid Iranian passports, Noble said at a news conference. But they used stolen Austrian and Italian passports to board the missing Malaysian plane, he said.




Noble gave their names and ages as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 18, and Delavar Syed Mohammad Reza, 29.




Further, there's no evidence to suggest either was connected to any terrorist organizations, according to Malaysian investigators.




"We have been checking his background. We have also checked him with other police organizations of his profile, and we believe that he is not likely to be a member of any terrorist group," Khalid said.


CNN obtained an iReport photo of the two men with two of their friends, believed to have been taken Saturday before the plane disappeared. In it, they are posing with the two others, whose faces CNN has blurred to protect their identities.

Of course the biggest factor is now what happened to Flight 370? CNN sees 4 scenarios:

1. Scenario: Mechanical failure?

Fact: The absence of a debris field suggests the possibility that pilots were forced to ditch the plane and it landed on water without breaking up, finally sinking to the ocean floor.

Analysis: But if that were the case, then why no emergency signal? These planes are able to perform a "miracle on the Hudson" maneuver. They have the ability to glide more than 100 miles and belly land on the water with both engines out, says former 777 pilot Keith Wolzinger, now a civil aviation consultant with The Spectrum Group. During the time it would take for a plane to glide 100 miles, it seems likely that pilots would be able able to send an SOS.

Fact: The missing plane had suffered a clipped wing tip in the past, but Boeing repaired it, and the jet was safe to fly, said Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya on Sunday.

Analysis: "Anytime there's been previous damage to an airplane, even though it's been repaired, and repaired within standards ... it kind of sends a warning flag," says Wolzinger. Experts agree the Boeing 777 is one of the world's most reliable aircraft. During its development it was subject to some of the most rigorous testing in commercial aviation history. "I've been talking with colleagues," Wolzinger says. "We're all baffled by this." The 777 boasts some of the most powerful and well-tested engines in the world, he says. "The reliability of airliner engines in general is impeccable these days," he says. "This is a safe plane."

2. Scenario: Pilot error

Fact: So far, there are no known indications that pilot error contributed to the aircraft going missing.

Analysis: Some aviation experts have compared Flight 370 to the crash of Air France Flight 447 in 2009. All 228 passengers and crew died when the plane went down in a storm in the Atlantic en route from Brazil to Paris. After an expensive, nearly two-year search across the deep ocean floor, the twin-engine Airbus A330's wreckage was finally found and the voice and data recorders recovered. A French investigation blamed flight crew for failing to understand "they were in a stall situation and therefore never undertook any recovery maneuvers." But unlike Flight 447, weather was reported as good along Flight 370's scheduled route and didn't appear to present a threat.

Asiana Airlines Flight 217 -- a Boeing 777 -- fell short during a runway approach last July at San Francisco International Airport. Three people were killed and more than 180 others hurt. National Transportation Safety Board investigators have focused on pilot reliance on automated flight systems as a possible contributor to the crash, but a final report has not yet been released.

3. Scenario: Bomb? Or 'dry run'?

Fact: Two stolen passports have been linked to people who held tickets for the flight.

Analysis: This points to the possibility that someone on a terrorism watch list may have boarded the plane and blown it up. However, the stolen passports don't necessarily mean the plane was an actual target. It's possible, says former U.S. Department of Transportation Inspector General Mary Schiavo, that terrorists may have been performing a "dry run" for a future attack. Or, Schiavo said, "it could be just criminal business as usual," because "there are lots of stolen passports" used by travelers around the world.

Fact: So far, no debris field of plane wreckage has been linked to the 777, which would indicate a bomb blast.

Analysis: When Robert Francis, former vice chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, heard about the missing plane, his immediate thought was: "For some reason the aircraft blew up and there was no signal, there was nothing." The fact that the plane disappeared from radar without warning indicated to Francis "there was something unprecedented that hasn't happened before."

What about satellite technology? Is it possible that data from orbiting satellites might show a flash or infrared heat signature from an explosion? Very unlikely, says satellite expert Brian Weeden, who spent years tracking space junk in orbit for the U.S. Air Force. Dozens of government and private satellites orbit the earth, looking down from distances from 300 kilometers to 1,500 kilometers (185 to 930 miles). It's a long shot that one of them coincidentally floated over at the exact right time and location to capture a flash from an explosion.

However, there's an "off chance," Weeden says, that a super secret U.S. government satellite orbiting 22,000 miles in space might have grabbed evidence. These satellites are in geosynchronous orbit. As a group, they can observe virtually the entire globe. "We know that their mission is to detect ballistic missile launches via heat," says Weeden, now a technical adviser for Secure World Foundation. "We don't know if they're sensitive enough to track something like a bomb blast, even if that's what happened."

Then there's another unanswerable question: Would the government hesitate to release such an image for fear of revealing the satellite system's ultraclassified capability?

4. Scenario: Hijacking?

Fact: Before it disappeared, radar data indicated the plane may have turned around to head back to Kuala Lumpur. Is that a clue that a hijacker had ordered the plane to change course?

Analysis: So far, there have been no reports that the flight crew sent any signals that a hijacking had occurred.

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Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:45 | 4534900 Confused
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This is the most confusing part of the article. We know its there. We know what its purpose is (in theory). Nothing within that realm seems ultraclassified to me. 


Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:47 | 4534904 Levadiakos
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Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:09 | 4534998 Ifigenia
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no release, dont you see that US is near a big war? who knows, perhaps the dragon is making a dirty trick as an excuse to  adquire our secrets to help the bear and more importantly to safeguard their investment of billions in Ukieland..

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:22 | 4534782 Dollarmedes
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Scenario 6: Shot down by overzealous Chinese navy.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:30 | 4534823 Levadiakos
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A  most credible outcome except that they wern't apparently in Chinese airspace.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:33 | 4534837 XitSam
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All South-East Asia is Chicom airspace, duh.  But it would produce debris field and that has not been found.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:15 | 4535328 Levadiakos
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False. Utterly false. The only entity with universal airspace in that area of SE asia is Santa Claus.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 16:50 | 4535694 TwoCats
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That wouldn't stop the US...  Or France...

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 16:45 | 4535677 Cacete de Ouro
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Scenario X: Maybe the flight never took off...and it was made to look like it did

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:26 | 4534793 Seize Mars
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The American media is shocked to find that the world is full of people, some of whom are *gasp* Iranian.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:31 | 4534830 Infinite QE
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Post of the day.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4534799 observer007
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News from MH370 crash

shot down?

Six facts about fake passports

Latest News:


Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:26 | 4534802 Kirk2NCC1701
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The Enterprise had nothing to do with this.  Probably the work of those damn Klingons.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:34 | 4534841 Levadiakos
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I have the video of Obama atteneding the StarTrek convention dressed as that guy with the big lumpy forehead:

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:42 | 4534886 A Lunatic
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No need to drag Moochelle into all of this......

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:16 | 4535344 Levadiakos
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Also known as sasquatch

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:27 | 4534806 youngman
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I think we just saved Germany and England a bunch of welfare money on the two moochers that were coming to live there

..but back to the facts....this is very strange so sign of anything yet...very strange...

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:14 | 4535020 robertocarlos
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That was my first thought but then again maybe they would write a book and become billionaires. They were smart enough to figure the flaws in the system. I think they would somehow become rich Iranians. Or at least take the night-shift at a store.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:27 | 4534808 Tinky
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After careful consideration, I've arrived at the conlusion that I would prefer not to be one of the other two young men in the photo.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4534813 Smuckers
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"Where is my iPhone" app could solve this. 
I'm amazed in this day and age there isn't SOMETHING that's GPS enabled, (by passengers or airline), for tracking down a fucking Boeing 777.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:50 | 4534923 Confused
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Right. But I can get Wifi on flights. So at least we have that going for us. 


Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:29 | 4534816 A Lunatic
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The jetliner was simply spontaneously rehypothecated. See, no worries..........

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4534817 Father Lucifer
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There is no plane.

and the S&P cash just broke below 1870, look-out below.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:30 | 4534825 Confused
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22,000 miles out in space huh? Wow. A bit frightening. But if it is known they (satellites) are there to detect 'ballistic missles' then there should be no fear of release information it might have. Right? I mean, thats the purpose. To have visibility into these types of things. 

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 16:56 | 4535720 TwoCats
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22,000 miles out in space huh? Wow. A bit frightening. 

Only if you aren't familiar with the concept of geo-synchronous orbit.  The classified bit is how much resolution they have and could they track an airliner, which is roughly the same size as an ICBM.  If I was in charge of the program for such satellites, I wouldn't let anyone know that I had seen the event, but I would try to find some indirect way to guide the search such that it didn't expose the source of the info.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:32 | 4534835 Notsobadwlad
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Wasn't it reported this morning that military radar showed the plane on radar maintaining a lower altitude for an extended period of time after the transponder was disabled? I seem to remember saying that they followed the radar signature at least back to the Straits.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:35 | 4534847 shanearthur
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Why have black boxes if you can't locate them?


Tue, 03/11/2014 - 17:03 | 4535735 TwoCats
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The vast majority of the time the black boxes are located, even if it requires considerable time and expense.  They aren't made easier to find than they already are because we don't know a way to do so such that the airlines wouldn't balk at the cost.

The real question is why don't modern jets have a real-time comm link to a satellite so they can transmit GPS coordinates.  The whole "live black box" idea seems like it should no longer be cost-prohibitive in 2014.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:38 | 4534857 Dr. Engali
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What no missile scenario? WTF? These people are full of shit. They know exactly what happened to the plane.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:38 | 4534866 chistletoe
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It is simply unthinkable that a jetliner manufactured by The Boeing Company minght, just possibly, have a mechanical breakdown ... only in your dreamliners would such a thing ever happen ....

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:54 | 4535226 Oh regional Indian
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Very well done...:-)

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:43 | 4534890 Yen Cross
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    The  " Philadelphia Experiment" continues...

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:44 | 4534893 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well you know these two guys are either not guilty of anything and being "used" or are Iranians living in McLean Virginia who were set up. 

Yes unfortuately there are plenty of Iranians living in the U.S. who don't mind what the U.S. does abroad and like most Americans don't really care when it's not their neighborhood being shit on!


Another Shanksville Pennsylvania in the making 9/11 Redux moment!

As for CNN fine work as always.  Job "well done"!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:47 | 4534905 EvlTheCat
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Yea, right, ok, it was a matter of hours when we knew that the bombing of the Boston Marathon was done by home grown terrorists, and we were chasing them all over Mass-a-two-shits, pissing on the sheep’s fourth amendment rights, but no way can two guys with fake passports blow up the plane...  So they were spies working for who, again?

Fuck CNN!  Clown News Nincompoops

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:48 | 4534909 robertocarlos
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Good news that they weren't responsible for the plane crash. They were just doing what they had to do to get to Europe. The 19 year old's mother was already in Germany.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:52 | 4534928 angryBuddhist
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Meanwhile back in DC, the State Department is working overtime trying to figure out how to spin this into a red flag event so we can start another war . . .

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:15 | 4535033 Ifigenia
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first thing first, which country has more gold and vulnerable.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 13:57 | 4534950 Uncle Remus
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The plane was stolen and is in a chop shop.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:01 | 4534968 BigRedRider
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Fear not.  The plane has secreted itself to the chronosynclastic infundibulum. 


Narthu has spoken.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:04 | 4534984 Rising Sun
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No debris?  Really?  Either that was one heck of an onboard explosion or someone is lying.



Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:04 | 4534985 NoTTD
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Sure, two Iranian Muslims traveling on stolen passports should be given every benefit of the doubt.  It's really unfair to even mention them.  Let's look into how many radical Lutherans were on the plane.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:12 | 4535015 FeralSerf
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Better yet, let's look at how many radical Zionists there were that WEREN'T on the plane.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:20 | 4535063 Ifigenia
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well due to historical facts (Iran Air Flight 655, happy trigger), specially about false flag (Maine), and more specifically in an area near Tonquin, i think it would be wise to begin interrogation with the Us navy boys, sub-boys include.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:08 | 4535000 smacker
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Under option 3., if it had been blown up by a bomb or even a missile, there would likely be floating debris.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:17 | 4535047 darkpool2
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Probably there is.......but " deflection" is at work wont find it if you are being " told" to look in the wrong areas ! ( maybe " they" just need another 24 hours to get the pieces into the " right" places.....lets.just wait and see !!!)! Sarc/

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 15:06 | 4535287 NotApplicable
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You mean like when they had searchers looking in the ocean for Ron Brown's plane, when it had really crashed into a mountain?

Surely people wouldn't do that!

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 18:39 | 4535386 g'kar
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Not if the Navy used their diabolical death ray.

Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:08 | 4535001 Mineral-Invest
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Tue, 03/11/2014 - 14:13 | 4535023 gregga777
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I was a Design Build Team / Integrated Product Team (DBT / IPT) leader on the 767-X / 777 design program in the early-to-mid 1990's, in flight electronic systems / flight systems integration. I'm now retired and not speaking in any way for Boeing or revealing any sensitive information.

That said, given the robust structure and deep redundancy designed into the 777, t's very, very puzzling that this aircraft could be there one moment and gone the next.

The news media almost always creates confusion about radar, especially for overwater flights. The aircraft's heading, altitude, etc., reported as being from radar is most probably the aircraft's self-reported information, transmitted on its radar activated transponder. I highly doubt that the radar determined that information on its own.

If that's the case, the aircraft didn't disappear from radar as determined from the radar's gated pulse reflections and calculated flight track data. If the aircraft transponder stopped transmitting flight track it was likely either dropped from the radar display or possibly remained as an unknown aircraft not reporting via transponders.

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