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After Annexing Crimea, Russian Troops Are Piling Up By The East Ukraine Border

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Despite the relentless protests of Kiev, and of course the G7 group of world's most indebted nations, in the past two weeks Vladimir Putin once again succeeded in outplaying the west and annexed the Crimea peninsula without firing a single shot (granted there is still potential for material situational deterioration, one which would involve military participation by NATO whose outcome is not exactly clear). The market has "priced in" as much, with prevailing consensus now dictating that Russia will preserve its foothold in the Crimea however without additional attempts for annexation: certainly Poland is hoping and praying as much.

However, as the following photos taken on the Russian side of East Ukraine, next to Belgorod, the Russian airborne troops ("VDV") are now piling up, only not in Crimea, which needs no further Russian military presence, but ostensibly to prepare for the next part of the annexation: that of Russian-speaking east Ukraine.

On the clip and pictures below, one can see Russian troops on the move near the border with Ukraine in the Belgorod Oblast, about 20 kilometers from the border with Ukraine near Kharkiv:

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The indicative location:

 

Meanwhile, on the birder with Crimea, Ukrainian troops are digging in and mining fields in anticipation of Russians rolling out of the Penninsula:

H/T @raymond_saint, Censor.net, mkoinov

 

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Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:29 | 4539950 StacksOnStacks
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Bullish!

 

SILVER BITCHEZ!!!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:31 | 4539966 The Alarmist
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Probably just there for the women.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:38 | 4539988 Headbanger
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Women!??  Then go to the Czech Republic for hot women!  (No offense to hot Ukrainian women)

Oh I gotta get me one of those cool Russian armed APC!     What is that??

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:40 | 4540014 ZerOhead
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So if I understand this correctly the Russian troops are largely in Russia on the Eastern Ukraine border.

Meanwhile the United States has 700+ international military bases including 75,000 stationed in the global hotspot known as Germany...

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/fo1029_usbases12001.gif

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:41 | 4540027 McMolotov
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Yeah, but we're teh World Police™.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:47 | 4540056 cougar_w
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"there is still potential for material situational deterioration"

Yes! Snarky Tyler is back!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:53 | 4540076 TahoeBilly2012
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Paul Craig Roberts with Greg Hunter on Ukraine latest. For all naysayers listen to Robert's "The Neocons are married to other Neocons (Victoria Nudelman and Kagan etc.) and they clearly stated what the want, total world hedgemony under US control". Roberts stops short of explaining that these Neocons are Jews, but he has started that line of thought lately. I suspect very soon PCR will take the gloves and say "Look the jews want a new world order run our of Israel.." we are edging towards the reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhxZxL56B00#t=261

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:56 | 4540109 Population Bubble
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I'll be needing some popcorn.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:19 | 4540199 ZerOhead
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< whistleblower

< scumbag traitor

Hey... did you all catch Senator Not-so-Feinstein's speech against the CIA surveillance of the Senate Intelligence Comittee yesterday?

So does revealing this secret information make her a patriotic 'whistleblower' or a scumbag 'traitor' like she believes Snowden to be..

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:45 | 4540290 fonestar
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Vlad the debt impaler is cutting your GAYTO troops off at the pass.  Nowhere for debt to expand?  Implosion of USD and Euro.

How do you fake libertarians like your cotton rectangles now?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:02 | 4540360 Chupacabra-322
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"I must break you."

-Vladimir Putin.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:09 | 4540384 Manthong
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Aw, heck.. nothing there that a few Obamadrones can’t take care of.

Hey, what kind of service medal do you get for valorous drone piloting?

And what do they call it?  The Courageous Keyboard? The Fearless Joystick?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:26 | 4540419 Independent
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Forget the Drones Manthong, GI Joe is expected to fight IVAN since there are many Jew oligarchs in Ukraine that need protection of their financial empires, since Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, one of the leading Rabbis of Israel called Gentiles "Goyim (gentiles, non-Jews) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel," he said, according to the Jerusalem Post. "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created." An "effendi" is a lord, or a master, in Arabic.

You see you are the slave that is supposed to die for the dual citizens, not your family, their loss if you die or are maimed and left without limbs does not matter as long as you serve your Master.

article about the Rabbis quote on csmonitor

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rab...

articles on who runs the Ukraine show and why we are there

http://iamthewitness.com/Ukraine.html

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/155976/ukraines-wester...

http://www.rense.com/general62/iuk.htm

http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/ukraine/ukraine_jew_cont...

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:54 | 4540520 TahoeBilly2012
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Different Truths For Different People

 

1. Knockoff Ukraine for peace and freedom against an evil Russia PASS

2. We must take control of West Ukraine wheatfields and gaslines, its isn't much, but it will keep the dollar going and keep us in control of Europe. We will let Putin well know that we won't go nuclear and he can take Kiev and split the Cpuntry if that's how it works out, back to the golf course. OKAY STOP! You are putting the entire world under duress of nuclear war for some wheatfields and a little "grey area" in East Europe?? BULLSHIT!!

3. Something else, something MUCH BIGGER...the downfall of Putin the Christian, well needed to continue the grind towards well...something REALLY BIG, TOTAL WORLD DOMINION. This is only scenario that makes any sense at all, sorry to say, need a "Color Revolution" in Russia because they never had a PLAN FUCKING B to the New World Order.

Anyone else want to explain a few more options a few more ways? Bring it bitchez.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:06 | 4540795 The Alarmist
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Time to recycle an old Cold War joke ... If Russia attacks NATO in the rear, do you think Greece will help?

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:17 | 4540850 Jack Napier
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So the West throws a coup in Ukraine, Putin expands his empire, and Ukraine's gold flies out of Kiev to the US. Putin is quite the opportunist, unless they're working together. He knows the West is powerless. He could crush our paper economy in a heartbeat thanks to the ledge we've walked ourselves onto. This is only the beginning.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:41 | 4541138 The Alarmist
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Yeah, but like we have the Dollar and it is backed by a military that is better funded than the next 20 national militaries' funding combined, and with that we can seriously screw with any country's ability to screw with our economy ... right?

Sounds like a classic Hobbesian "War of everyone against Everyone."

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:58 | 4541373 The Dunce
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It's a race war.  No shit.  Bitches.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 06:40 | 4542149 GetZeeGold
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The KKK took my Kiev baby away!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7YOCoSq9_U

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:30 | 4540902 TheReplacement
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It would be fine if the people of Russia revolted and overthrew Putin to install a real representative government that was run by the rule of law.  I'm certain they feel the same way about the US.  Just where would that leave the NWO?

PS:  We (the US) don't control Europe.  The banks do.  The same banks control us.  That means we don't control anything.  This should change.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:45 | 4541152 The Alarmist
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It would be nice if the rule of law was restored in a number of places that claim to cherish it.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:32 | 4541287 Anusocracy
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The problem is that we have the rule of law.

The two million plus laws in the US has made it a totally fucked-up place, not their absence.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:42 | 4541322 bh2
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"The more the laws the more corrupt the nation" -- Tacitus

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 22:46 | 4541541 Quentin Daniels
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The problem is not that we have the rule of law, it's the laws themselves and the corruption of the process by which they are made.  As you say, there are far too many laws, but worse, most of them are bought and paid for by vested interests.  The system as it was intended to work expected that our representitives would actually represent us, and would negotiate with one and other in good faith (when did that last happen in congress?) to pass those laws that are necessary for socity to function in a way that balances everyones rights and responsibilities.

The system based on the rule of law, as described on paper (the constitution) is fine.  It's just that we don't currently have that system.

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:01 | 4541776 Jreb
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I would ammend this to say that the problem with the west in general is that the rule of law and what it is has either been forgotten or so severely perverted that noone really understands what it was originally intended to be.

We no longer have rule of law or a system of justice but rather a "legal system" which is not law as our forefathers understood but rather regulatory in nature and abusive of the very individuals that 'the law" was originally intended to protect.

Freedom has been hijacked by a team of laweyers and bankers masquerading as politicians. It is a problem that can likely only be fixed with lengths of rope and pitch forks.

Sadly - I suspect I am by and large alone on this one. And since one man does not a revolution make I am content to sit and watch the whole mess fester, rot and eventually burn. Indeed - every nation get's the government/system it deserves. We in the west are not exceptional.

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:52 | 4541881 Volkodav
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"The Law" Bastiat  

there is quote "law becomes legalized plunder" or like that..

One of greatest books ever written and is not expensive...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 07:46 | 4542216 matrix2012
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FRÉDÉRIC BASTIAT

 

One of my favorite quotes, look at how correctly the vision illustrates the USSA and the NATO / EU nations in general...

 

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat, Fench political economist, statesman, and author (1801-1850)

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Another quote by him: . .

"When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe."

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 09:30 | 4542507 Jreb
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I keep a copy on the living room coffee table. One of the best books on the topic ever written.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:01 | 4541200 ebworthen
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Bearataka!

A reverse Blitzkrieg.

Roll the tanks Vlad!  Roll the tanks!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:49 | 4541342 ExpendableOne
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I don't think the little drones will do well over an army with AA support.  

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:03 | 4540361 Chupacabra-322
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"I must break you."

-Vladimir Putin.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:35 | 4540468 Fukushima Sam
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I like Putin almost as much as I like Hillary.

Who has forgotten the creepy way he lifted up that boy's shirt and kissed his belly?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5155448.stm

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:53 | 4540523 layman_please
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and bbc is covering this because...?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:36 | 4540900 Independent
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Well at least he didnt kiss the child's ass like some clergy here in the USA

Its an affectionate thing parents and relatives do to kids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSYJCoZPbV8

Perhaps you are reading in more than you should, if it had been done with only Putin and the kid in a room yeah ok you have something there, but this is in public in front of cameras

Sam the story is from 2006, do you keep a dossier of little kids photos and stories?  Cause you what....get kicks out of it?  You are the sick one Sammy go get some therapy

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:25 | 4540633 ebear
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this is getting old

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 05:39 | 4542126 Cap Matifou
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Who has sumting to loose with parting Crimea:

Exxon to put offshore exploration in the Black Sea on hold
http://drake.newsbase.com/2014/03/down-but-not-quite-out/

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:54 | 4540979 caShOnlY
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lets see bonestar:

dollar implodes, internet kill switch enabled, bitcoins cut off as NSA seals up all the doors and POTUS enacts PO that states "only USG issued digi-currency is valid.  My gold and silver are safe and sound. Good luck with your "digital mining".

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:34 | 4540665 Antifaschistische
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I'm thinking.....if you had the right weaponry, and there was a nice long slow train moving by with a few hundred tanks on it.   You could destroy every single tank from a fixed position and watch the "virtual road to baghdad" replay.   The great thing is the train just keeps brining you your next target.

I'm not picking sides....but I do think that would be very cool to watch.

If the Russians do it like the American's....these trains are not escorted by air.   At least...none of the trains I've shot at.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 08:09 | 4542254 matrix2012
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@ Antifaschistische

you just made a terrible mistake confusing the mighty Russia with the poor and weak Iraq...

 

Do you believe the ZATO will just carry on the megaphone war of words if Russia is just another Iraq? lol

 

I look forward to see the Russian tanks steamrolling those thug rings of Z rats incl the Yat plus the neo NAZI in Kiev, along with the mercenary forces of Academi/Blackwater/Xe Services... time for the Russia to kick on the ZATO's belly in a big fanfare...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:41 | 4541059 scrappy
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This video catches the times, zh material.

"It's a Mistake!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0AxrOUJ62E

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:36 | 4540120 Headbanger
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Why doesn't Dubbya invite Putin and Obozo over to the Ranch for some awesome Texas barbeque with a few beers and vodka and Kool Aid to discuus and settle this whole mess like world leaders should do??

Shoot some trap.. Have Ron White over for some good laughs and forget about all this military shit!

WTF!  Why not!?

 

BTW:   Kharkiv is only 250 miles from Kiev.  A hop skip and a jump for armored divisions by rail.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:42 | 4540267 Kirk2NCC1701
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Putin might accept if they came to Sochi, or they met at the Bush ranch in Paraguay, but not in Texas.

Personally, I think that a big pow-wow in YALTA would be appropriate and symbolic.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:46 | 4540299 HardlyZero
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Divide and Conquer (Ceasar), it is nearly Ukraine mid-latitude...or is that Stand and Deliver ! (Adam Ant style).

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:03 | 4540554 max2205
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Thats a big country.....I don't know if P can pull it off unless he has a good bluf

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:20 | 4541069 Independent
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He just needs to pull it off in half the country and along the coast including Odessa up to Romania, and with ethnic Russians on the ground he may not need much to succeed.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:47 | 4540302 SoilMyselfRotten
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After seeing both of their souls I'm thinkin he'd still prefer Putins

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:50 | 4540312 Headbanger
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How about a big Pow-Wow in say Venice for some fine Italiano cusine and hot Italian women?

As long as Ron White is there!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:00 | 4540347 HardlyZero
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It would have to be Obunga, Obunga fron now on (you realize that!), heh.

It would be popular.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 22:14 | 4541426 e_goldstein
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Because they heard Cheney would be attending and no one wants to be around a drunk Dick with a shotgun.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:01 | 4540133 Bunker Boy
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I forget, what synagogue do John McCain, Kerry & Obama attend?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:09 | 4540149 Headbanger
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Shalom Beth Putzes

Oy gevalt!  Such a thought.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:21 | 4540427 Dugald
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From your mouth to Putin's ears..........!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:07 | 4540152 McMolotov
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Temple of Doom. Kali Ma Shakti de!!!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:17 | 4540200 asteroids
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Kiev or Bust

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:45 | 4540714 GooseShtepping Moron
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I have to give you props if you transliterated that from memory.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:07 | 4540159 TahoeBilly2012
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Oh, I forgot, there are some wingnut Satanic so called Christians working on whatever the god damned plan is, you tell me! Pretty clear to me the Occult is running the show. If you have a better idea, spit it out.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:28 | 4540236 Zadig
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They're megalomaniacs.  I doubt many of them are actually religious.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:11 | 4540816 WhackoWarner
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100% agree.

Religion is a simple disguise they wear.  They pay no more attention to "religious guidance" than a snake.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:25 | 4540438 Sirius Wonderblast
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If only there were some Cathars around to do justice to analysing that comment!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:26 | 4540228 Infinite QE
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The Sodomite Temple.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:36 | 4540254 Kirk2NCC1701
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It's more specific than that: It's the damn "Globalist/Imperialist Zionists" who are behind this, and pretend to speak for all Jews and Israelis.

And every they their "Bundling" marketing/propaganda strategy gets attacked, they create a situation whereby the non-conformist Jews and Israelis get sucked into the Con, and are made to "circle the wagons".

IOW: It is an agenda and policy to periodically condition their own Sheep to group against "outside threats", lest they dis-assimilate or disagree.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:00 | 4540547 windcatcher
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In ply to Tahoebilly 2012: Must watch link to what Dr. Roberts has to say. I also would like to add:

 

Yes, the insane tyrant neo-con criminals in charge that have successfully overthrown our American Constitution and destroyed our American Free Enterprise Capitalist System that was FREE from monopolies---- Want and need War!

The great “American Dream” (you can work hard and be successful) and the right to “Self Determination” (freedom of the people to choose their own government and not be controlled by another country) are dead concepts destroyed by back-door illegal ex post facto laws.

 

War! The criminals have been at war with the American People for the last 30 years! What exactly do you think the Police State have planned for you in a major war?

If you desire your American economy and democratic government (government of, for and by the people) back, you will have to fight for it like your forefathers did.

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 02:37 | 4541997 Flagit
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If you desire your American economy and democratic government (government of, for and by the people) back, you will have to fight for it like your forefathers did.

 

no. we will have to fight much, much harder than they did.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:38 | 4540925 Rafferty
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After many years I've slowly and reluctantly come to the view that we simply have to 'name the Jew'.  It's the elephant in the room and no solution will be found until their role is exposed.  Let us all just hope that this will come to pass before it all ends in bloodshed.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:59 | 4540996 Berspankme
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Well worth 53 minutes of your time. PCR is a truthsayer. Good to see an honest man

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:07 | 4541218 HardAssets
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Never once has PCR used the term 'Jews' in any of his statements or writings.

Perhaps youre a mind reader who has the inside track on what PCR really thinks. Perhaps you think you know more than PCR as to what he really thinks.

He has mentioned neocons many times & they don't happen to be the same thing.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:50 | 4540084 zaphod
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Just wait till the petro dollar falls. 

Oil is the life blood of the military, without it we have to close all of those bases.

Yet another reason to support bitcoin.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:19 | 4540211 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Yet another reason to support bitcoin.

Non sequiturd.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:37 | 4540255 Zadig
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The MIC will cheerfully waste trillions to develop expensive new ways to murder people without using hydrocarbons.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:14 | 4540835 Sirius Wonderblast
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Now let us think of a country that can suppply it's own oil...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:45 | 4540951 cheetahbaby
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Can ya buy oil with bitcoin yet???

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:58 | 4541191 WhackoWarner
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You must be waiting for a troll offer paycheck. 

I am disappointed with this article.

 

Does not make front and center that the Soviet troops have been there since 1954?  That there is no aggression on Soviet part.

This is not Putin worship.  Just simple bashing of the lies that USA media puts out. I am disappointed that ZH puts this out there without any rebuttal of actual fact.

 

USA neocons want a war.  Any war anywhere.  US media is just feeding.  You should all be ashamed.  ZH should be ashamed of this one-sided and factually inaccurate story.  Got your feed from FOX?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:40 | 4541860 Volkodav
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They want a war, till they get a war...

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:54 | 4540100 macholatte
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potential for material situational deterioration

 

isn't that what the doctor said about Michael Jackson's nose?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 02:10 | 4541972 Kirk2NCC1701
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I like the Snarky Tyler too, but I like the one who does his due diligence even better.  FAIL!

Russia allows Ukrainian surveillance flight to confirm no troops near border

http://rt.com/news/russia-allows-flight-ukraine-374/

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:49 | 4540073 ApollyonDestroy
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Fuck da po'leece!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:49 | 4540075 Soul Glow
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And military forces - including contracters paid by USA taxpayers - are still knee deep in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Talk about bleeding oneself dry!  

How did Rome fall?  They were stretched too thin.  Is the USA stretched too thin?  I think so.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:57 | 4540117 McMolotov
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Bilbo Baggins: "Like butter scraped over too much bread."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:09 | 4540171 Muddy1
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stretching us thin and stretching us thin financially, that was bin Laden's strategy for defeating the US

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:21 | 4540215 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It worked.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:24 | 4541829 Soul Glow
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Afghanistan has been the end of a few Empires now.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 23:30 | 4541687 eulah38nctatbmrtscp
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Uh-Mare-I-Ka     Fuck Ya!!!  Comin to save the Mother Fuckin Day Ya!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:43 | 4540041 DoChenRollingBearing
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Right, it is not our fight.  Let Russia take the E. Ukraine.  It will likely COST them more than any benefits they gain, whether by war w/ Ukraine or "peaceful annexation".  Taking W. Ukraine would likely cost them even more.

And, finally (?), ZH would be rid of its Putin-lovers...  Hey, I dislike Obama as much as the next guy, but Putin is no friend of ours, no friend of ANY rational people.  

Poland would be a different story.  They will fight, and they´re solidly within NATO.  Poland was with us in Afghanistan and so has shown their cred.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:50 | 4540054 ZerOhead
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Anyone who was 'with us' in Afghanistan should either have their brains checked for tumors or their pockets checked for the missing billions in 'aid money' ...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:08 | 4540987 DoChenRollingBearing
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Ah, 64 greens for you, 40 reds for me.  Looks like you win!  Congratulations to you and to ZH posters!

***

But..., on point, would you all say something similar to Polish soldiers wounded over there?

Or to Polish war widows?

For that matter, people with cancer?

 

Or is your comment just a snarky Polish joke?  

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:07 | 4541787 Jreb
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DCRB - normally with you on most stuff but I think the point is - WTF are we or anyone else doing in Afghanistan?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:29 | 4541841 Soul Glow
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Yeah, see, that's why not to fuck with Dochen.

And for Putin, no politician is a good man.  Especially a KGB spy.  

Making a friend of your enemy's enemy is not wise, however apripo.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:48 | 4540062 saints51
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What you have to understand is Big Boys have Big Boy Toys. Do you honestly think Putin or Obama(or either of their masters) ego's would allow them to lose. These mother fuckers will type in go codes before they ever fall to 2nd place.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:49 | 4540070 cougar_w
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Dempsey's earlier blather was about Poland.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:58 | 4540125 Shameful
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Russia would have nothing to gain by pushing into Poland, at most their other parts it might be interested are the Baltics, but they are also NATO members, and not exactly brimming with natural resources.  Not worth the first as some might actually honor a call to arms with NATO.

However Putin is vastly superior to virtually all western leaders.  He is a cruel, self serving, autocrat, but he wants a powerful platform to wield, meaning a he as least has to not actively attack his own nation.  Basically every other western leader there pulling the most wide scale loot and scoot program they can.  I'd take Putin over any president in the past two decades, and certainly over Hillary or Jabba the Hut from Jersey.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:11 | 4540179 Muddy1
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"Russia would have nothing to gain by pushing into Poland"

sausage??  maybe

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:35 | 4540474 Karl von Bahnhof
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People pleeeze! Nobody here in europe wants to fight with anybody. Nor poles, czechs, russians and ukies.

Only few greedy bastards, corrupted with US money want this. Same as last century.

Qui bono? Europe? Russia? People? Pleeez!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:27 | 4540553 JuliaS
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Russia wants nothing to do with Poland. In fact, regarding this conflict, Russians joke about exporting all of Neo-nazi's out of Ukraine into Poland and Romania where they supposedly came from.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:28 | 4540586 layman_please
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am i the only idiot who thinks too much power in the hands of one single person is a considerable threat to the world? have we learned nothing from the history? mania grandiose, anyone? not a single time has it ended well. especially when it regards one of the biggest armies of a country with the nuclear arsenal who has been the geopolitical underdog for the last 25 years after the fall of soviet union? rationale of stupidity has never surprised me but to find it prevailing on ZH doesn't cease to amaze me.

putin might have the best interest at heart but it would be enough to go full retard for a blink of an eye due to western provocations or what have you, and there would be nobody to reason with him before the irrevocable damage has been done.

Corbett Report - Enemy of My Enemy

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:41 | 4540700 ebear
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"putin might have the best interest at heart but it would be enough to go full retard for a blink of an eye due to western provocations or what have you, and there would be nobody to reason with him before the irrevocable damage has been done."

I think you've misunderstood Putin's popularity.  There are few nations on earth that aren't under the thumb of western banking interests.  Russia is one, and well situated to put a stop to their drive for world domination.  THAT is what makes him popular.  It's called Balance of Power - something that's sorely needed these days.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:05 | 4540782 layman_please
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popularity has nothing to do with the fact that granting power to one single person has never ended well. hitler and stalin were one of the most loved leaders by their own people. and didn't hitler turn his back to the bankers who supported him?

balance of power has to be between people and their rulers, not between rulers and rulers, so the peasants can storm to kill each other while their leaders enter into secrets pacts behind closed doors. this is so 20th century all over again.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:50 | 4540843 layman_please
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furthermore. our problems are not caused by the ussa but by the system every power-structure/government is built upon. it just so happens ussa is most successful of them so it's most convenient to point fingers at. 

how will replacing bankers with oligarchs solve anything? it's the same pyramid with different topping.

one power pyramid countering the other one isn't balancing anything, they only empower each other. it's pure propaganda to expect anything else from it.

one even hasn't have to be a student of history to notice how obvious it all is. just play one nation against other. obama and putin can't thank each other enough while they keep this charade going as all the major economies are on the brink of global collapse. how have we forgotten it all in few weeks?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:41 | 4541317 ebear
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It's all very well to point out the problem, but what are you going to do about it?

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:38 | 4545166 layman_please
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all i can do is remind people that nobody other than ourselves has our best interest at heart. this is what freedom is all about.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:32 | 4541116 layman_please
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intresting find from UselessEater.  

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/17817-obama-exploiting-ukrain...

"The globalist establishment, Russian authorities, and the Obama administration are pushing hard for a series of controversial “reforms” aimed at massively expanding the power and resources of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) while further scaling back U.S. influence at the institution. Using various pretexts — and especially thecrisis in Ukraine — governments and dictatorships, including Vladimir Putin’s Russia, are even threatening to proceed with the radical plot to empower the IMF whether the U.S. Congress approves it or not. "

one just isn't fighting international bankers by empowering IMF, though it will balance the powers real well.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:52 | 4540736 Herd Redirectio...
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Give Ole Yellen a chance before calling her a considerable threat, geez!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:07 | 4540798 layman_please
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LOL. i wonder if she even knows who she's working for.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:07 | 4541220 Infinite QE
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Well, right now we have nearly all global power in the hands of a few families who control global banking, who think they are gods on earth and believe that all other non-chosen are donkeys to be used up. I'd take Putin over that bunch.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:19 | 4540210 Infinite QE
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Who wants Poland? Their only exports are bad carpenters and cleaning ladies.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:34 | 4540250 Ralph Spoilsport
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They make better vodka than the Russkies.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:48 | 4540308 HardlyZero
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You must be joking ! 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:35 | 4540670 layman_please
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polish vodka is one of the few things to come close to polish female beauty

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:21 | 4540431 MarsInScorpio
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Ralph:

 

Whoever downed you obviously doesn't know that the original vodka was made from potatos, and Poland is the only country exporting genuine Polish-brewed and distilled - in genuine Polish consumer labels - potato vodka.

 

For the person who demands the historically accurate vodka - it's Polish potato vodka every time.

 

YES!!

-30-

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:53 | 4540522 August
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>>>the original vodka was made from potatos

FWIW the use of the word vodka in Poland for distilled spirits pre-dates the introduction of the potato to Europe.

But it's a good spiel.

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:09 | 4540568 silvermail
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Vodka must be made from wheat.

But someone can make vodka from potatoes and even from sawdust.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:04 | 4541210 Animal Cracker
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The most interesting things I learn in these comments are all fucking useless.

And still I am grateful.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:21 | 4540216 Infinite QE
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You might want to read Paul Craig Roberts commentary from yesterday regarding who is showing real leadership ability. Hint: It's definitely not Barry.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:30 | 4540232 Independent
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Well DoChen if you have been reading the posts you would know that up to 1/3 of ukraine gold deposits are in east as well as oil and gas.  Most of coal deposits are there as well as valuable MIC factories that Russia relies on.  They overall make money on the deal.

If you look at the map you will see its going to be a straightline shot to Kiev, cut the chickens head off.  I wonder if Belarus will get in on the action with a surprise Northern Front.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:47 | 4540301 Freddie
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I would love it if Putin and his boys took out the Ukrainian Zio-Oligharchs.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:52 | 4540967 DoChenRollingBearing
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Independent

Yes, the most valuable part of the Ukraine is the eastern half.  But I doubt that the Russians would "make a profit" on it by annexing it.

Did we make any profit from Iraq?

Belarus is already a Russian toady, they will do as they are told.

Hey, but what do I know?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 09:50 | 4542573 matrix2012
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DCRB, may you please check the map: where's the IRAQ, where's the USSA?

And where's UKRAINE, where's RUSSIA?

 

It's just geographical talk, i yet mention anything about ethnicity, language, culture, religion...

how can you ever draw such dumb comparation among the four??? what kind of similarity, if any, among the four of them?

 

And still set aside the objective whereas the MIC-controlled USSA is seeking to feed the Zio-controlled MIC with MOAR budgets, sucking dried its host... applied in Iraq applied in Afghan

 

Like some ZHers here just mentioned:

"How did Rome fall? They were stretched too thin.... stretching the USSA thin and stretching the USSA thin financially!"

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:29 | 4540239 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Hey, I dislike Obama as much as the next guy, but Putin is no friend of ours, no friend of ANY rational people.

There isn't a government on the planet that is a friend of any people.

As far as being an enemy of people, though, cue the idiots in Vichy DC chanting, "we're number one!"

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:06 | 4540959 DoChenRollingBearing
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"There isn't a government on the planet that is a friend of any people."


That is a true statement.  I was really referring to Obama and Putin.  Putin is odious, as is Obama.  

I still do not understand all the man-love here at ZH for Putin.

Has he said something nasty about Jews perhaps?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:09 | 4541023 Berspankme
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I think people wanted their elected leaders to project strength. Putin does that, Obama is a pussy. Empty, idle threats while golfing does not demonstrate leadership.

 

I have no man-love for Putin but I have no doubt he has the best interest of Russia in his mind along with his self interest. Obama has only self interest

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 21:53 | 4541359 caustixoid
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Has he said something nasty about Jews perhaps?

Well Putin IS keeping Russian resources out of the hands of the western banking cartels so... anti-semite?

You want the man-crush for Putin on ZH explained?  Democratic change against the tyranny that runs western society is no longer possible.  It appears 1984 is being used as a how-to manual.   The only thing standing in the way of 'a boot walking on the face of humanity forever' is Russia/China/Iran -- we can only hope they stand up long enough for our elites to exhaust themselves in an orgy of debt and gluttony.

So enemy-of-my-enemy I guess.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:11 | 4541801 Jreb
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Sad that it has come to cheering for one bunch of statist trash over another group of statist trash. Lesser of evils? Hardly anymore. Although I will give the west this: it still has its fancy window dressings. China etc not so much. When will the masses wake up? I vote never.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:03 | 4540363 Yoki
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You see I think some ZH readers would rather speak Russian then English.

 

I prefer English olagarcs. With Russian olagarcs, I would have to learn russian, fuck that, I'm sticking with me drunken English Olagarcs, at least its easier to get them drunk, and that keeps the price of moonshine down....

 

ahhh goold old moonshine,

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 01:03 | 4541897 Ward no. 6
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?????

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 01:04 | 4541898 Ward no. 6
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didn't work was trying to write something in russian...

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:15 | 4540840 WhackoWarner
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Just when I think you are one smart guy you come out with this.

Give your illusions a shake. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 10:27 | 4542730 matrix2012
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Yoki loves to be a kosher slave... err... i meant he wanna be a Gentile "Goyim"... lol

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 08:34 | 4542331 matrix2012
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@ DCRB

it's very silly and dumb to think that Merica problem is just with Obama.

Nope. Obama is just a small problem. The real problem is those Z-rats or J-rats that occupying the D.C....those armies of CFR/AIPAC/CIA... the followers of Rockefella/Rottenchild Satanic clans!!

 

“The United States has attacked, directly or indirectly, some 44 countries throughout the world since August 1945, a number of them many times. The avowed objective of these military interventions has been to effect “regime change”. The cloaks of “human rights” and of “democracy” were invariably evoked to justify what were unilateral and illegal acts. (Professor Eric Waddell,  The United States’ Global Military Crusade (1945- ), Global Research, February 2007

“This is a [Pentagon] memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” (General Wesley Clark, Democracy Now, March 2, 2007)

Washington is in the “business of destroying” a very long list of countries.

While the tenets of US foreign policy are predicated on the “spread of democracy”, US interventionism –through military means and covert operations– has resulted in the outright destabilization and partition of sovereign nations.

Destroying countries is part of a US Imperial project, a process of global domination.  Moreover, according to official sources, the US has a total of 737 military bases in foreign countries. (2005 data)

Read further in “Wiping Countries Off the Map”: Who’s Failing the “Failed States” | PROF. MICHEL CHOSSUDOVSKY | GLOBAL RESEARCH (2012.12.29)

Read over the "Project for the New American Century" (PNAC), practically means for "Conquest for Fun and Profit", and the "FULL SPECTRUM OF DOMINANCE" as well.

They are all related each other.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:52 | 4540091 LetsGetPhysical
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American troops are still in Germany cause if we pulled them out it would be a huge hit to the German economy. We tried a few years back and Germany was all "whoa, whoa...wait a minute". 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:18 | 4540203 CrimsonAvenger
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That's alright, just tell them we're pulling the troops back to guard their gold. Which we'll be shipping over any minute now, promise.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:37 | 4540253 zaphod
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I remember that and the behavior by Germany was absurd. There was constant yelling by the Germans for the US to get out, but when we said OK they realized the loss of money that came with it and switched their tune immediately.

It showed clearly how the rest of the world just wants to suck off of the US tax payer as well, while at the same time yell how evil the US is. 

When I was in Korea it was the same thing. The younger generation protests every day for the US to get out, but then we talk about drawing down forces just a little or maybe the koreans need to do more on the DMZ themselves, the tune switches immediately. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:08 | 4540383 Yoki
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Entire Army in Germany protested too..

Fuck you would protest that too, have you seen the girls they got?

 

fuck yeah!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:04 | 4540557 JuliaS
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We got to keep them around. What if Hitler comes back?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:43 | 4540039 HoofHearted
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Nobody could have seen this coming...who would have ever guessed that Putin wasn't going to be happy with just the Crimea? Nobody could have predicted this. 

Damn, he moves faster than Hitler, though. He let the Olympics in Berlin end, then went three years before annexing Poland. Putin started the annexation during the Olympics...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:49 | 4540069 TaperProof
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I think Putin and Obama should settle this on the golf course.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:51 | 4540085 McMolotov
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I think Putin would wrap a 9-iron around Barry's head.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:13 | 4540184 cougar_w
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How did we do that? You're not in my actual brain today are you? Cuz if you are, could you run down a few missing scenes from late Saturday night for me? Thanks.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 19:32 | 4540913 ArrestBobRubin
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Very funny!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:51 | 4540086 cougar_w
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What ... they beat each other with 9-irons?

If so then I'm there. Though I give it to Putin by the second hole.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:26 | 4540222 Uncle Remus
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After the impromptu teleprompter insertion, a well-appointed golf bag shouldn't be too bad.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:04 | 4540556 DaddyO
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That's rich there Uncle...

I laughed so hard I choked.

DaddyO

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:23 | 4540436 joe6px
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I believe those are BMD's.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 20:05 | 4541012 Buck Johnson
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I know Czech women are hot. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 00:06 | 4541784 caconhma
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The mystery of several tones of secret cargo that on March 7 has been moved from Ukraine  Kiev Boryspil airport to the USA under the UKRAINE STATE SECURITY SERVICE protection and without any customs inspection has been solved.

According to a competent source from the Ukraine National Treasury Depository, the total value of items removed/stolen from the National Storage, according to the Kuchma (2003) appraisal, is over 27 billion dollars. These items includes ancient gold jewelry, paintings, and unique historical artifacts including the priceless collection of the 'Scythians treasures'.

This outrageous theft of the Ukrainian National Treasury was committed by the new Ukrainian Junta leaders with a direct participation of  American secret services. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 02:57 | 4542015 chaartist
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Much nicer girls in Slovakia. And you have it 3 hours away from Prague to confirm the difference :}. Let me know 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 05:20 | 4542116 PolishErick
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not true- Ukrainian ladies are hotter than their Czech or Polish counterparts :P

 

I live by the Czech boarder in Silesia... So I should be inclined to praise my backyard...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:38 | 4540010 johnQpublic
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tough to take a self propelled howitzer seriously when it has wooden bumpers

 

now anyone but me thinking georgia guidestone about now?

population at 500 million comes to mind

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:43 | 4540040 Headbanger
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Hey!  Waddya mean!?  Mine's got em..

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:06 | 4540150 pods
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I think 1 round going off in your general vicinity would more than make up for any aesthetic deficiencies of them.

pods

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:18 | 4540206 Headbanger
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Does "I fart in you general direction" count??

I know.. Depends on what I are for lunch and how much scotch I had last night.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:52 | 4540313 HardlyZero
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They will need white flags at each hole...it's not raciss, it's French golf.  The only rounds will be around the course.

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