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Chairman Of Joint Chiefs: US Ready For "Military Response" In Ukraine

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With diplomacy having failed miserably to resolve the Russian annexation of Crimea, and soon East Ukraine (and with John Kerry in charge of it, was there ever any doubt), the US is moving to the heavy artillery. First, moments ago, the US DOE announced in a shocking announcement that it would proceed with the first draw down and sale of crude from the US strategic petroleum reserve, the first since June 2011, in what it said was a "test sale to check the operational capabilities of system infrastructure", but is really just a shot across the bow at Putin for whom high commodity prices are orders of magnitude more important than how the Russian stock market performs. And now, as Bloomberg just reported, the US has escalated even further, citing the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, who "has claimed that in the case of an escalation of unrest in Crimea, the U.S. Army is ready to back up Ukraine and its allies in Europe with military actions."

So much for those peaceful hour long phone calls between Obama and Putin.

From Bloomberg:

According to the Web site of the Atlantic Council, Dempsey said that "he's been talking to his military counterparts in Russia, but he's also sending a clear message to Ukraine and members of NATO that the U.S. military will respond militarily if necessary."

 

"We're trying to tell [Russia] not to escalate this thing further into Eastern Ukraine, and allow the conditions to be set for some kind of resolution in Crimea. We do have treaty obligations with our NATO allies. And I have assured them that if that treaty obligation is triggered [in Europe], we would respond," Dempsey said.

 

According to the General, the incursion of Russian troops into the Crimea creates risks for all the countries of Europe and NATO allies.

 

"If Russia is allowed to do this, which is to say move into a sovereign country under the guise of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine, it exposes Eastern Europe to some significant risk, because there are ethnic enclaves all over Eastern Europe and the Balkans," Dempsey said.

And with that, the USDJPY ramp takes the pair to overnight highs, and futures are set to go green. BTFWWIIID!

More seriously, the real question is how Putin will react to this quantum escalation in verbal hostilities: wild guess here, but somehow we doubt he will pick up and leave.

 

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Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:32 | 4538502 IridiumRebel
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My gold thanks you, yet my daughter and all of my progeny say a BIG FUCK YOU. Fuckin' warmongers....

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:34 | 4538520 fightthepower
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US Military Needs To Refuse to Fight!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4538560 Dr. Richard Head
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Sadly, that will never happen.  Automatrons follow orders.  A look at CT police and their intentions to kick down doors and grab a specific type of gun should make that clear to us all.  People don't think other than keeping their own gerbil wheel going.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:41 | 4538592 mliu_01
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Nice, I can NOT wait to see boyz and galz die to protect my freedom in Ukraine. The more death the moe safer I will feel.

Putin we will get your ass. Please make it live on TV. Nothing better than watching real people that really dying.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4538633 flacon
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Meanwhile... a travel agency web site [PCLN] is worth more than UPS. I'm sure it's because of all those click-through ads and people using money they don't have to book holidays at Disney World to enjoy Mickey Mouse. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4538657 Pladizow
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Blah, blahh, blah - just American chesse burger ratteling - the US wont do a fucking thing!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:51 | 4538665 duo
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"because there are ethnic enclaves all over Eastern Europe and the Balkans,"

What about Brighton Beach in NYC?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:53 | 4538688 Pladizow
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Last time I checked, Putin wasnt brown and he has nukes - The US  will fuck off!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:57 | 4538719 BaBaBouy
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HAve They Invented "GREEN BOMBS" Yet ??? $ $ $

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4538742 Population Bubble
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Let's get this party started!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:06 | 4538781 johnQpublic
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how much further to 'full retard'?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:11 | 4538811 TeamDepends
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Brother, where you been?  It was right next to that Stuckey's we passed several years ago.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:20 | 4538862 TerminalDebt
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Surprised they didn't say they needed more funding to be ready. Always a good excuse to ask for more money.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:26 | 4538901 New England Patriot
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Unbelievable. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:43 | 4539005 Anusocracy
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That stupid old fuck is not long from the grave so it looks like he wants to take 2-3 billion people with him.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:51 | 4539042 john39
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and just look what zato's other hand is up to while everyone is watching the hand played in Ukraine:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/11/syria-war-international-effort-southern-front-assad

Syria...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:49 | 4539283 Overfed
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Gawd I wish the Russians would directly intervene in Syria on behalf of Assad. Eject Al-CIA-duh once and for all.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:08 | 4539347 nope-1004
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Putin sends in troops, Obama sends in Kerry.  Putin secures a military base, Obama sells oil.

 

The US govvy is a joke!  More PR bullshit about invasion.  Obama and the US military won't do anything, otherwise they would have already.  Incompetent and immobile.

Now ask yourself:  Why would Obama sell oil if this were truly about a sovereign Ukraine for the citizens of Ukraine?  WTF does oil have to do with it?  lmao....

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:55 | 4539523 Leopold B. Scotch
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Banksters Uber Alles!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:08 | 4539862 HyBrasilian
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Will George HERBERT WALKER Bush just fuck off & die already!?

~~~

& while you're at it...

take BILLARY, the LIZARD FAMILY, & all other 'crypto's with you...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:20 | 4539921 The Alarmist
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Hello,  this is the governed calling ... where do I go to withdraw my consent?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:42 | 4540030 Soul Glow
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Long pitchforks.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:28 | 4539949 Unknown User
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Translation of Dempsey's warmongering: Pretty please, let us keep the rest of Ukraine.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:22 | 4540616 mjcOH1
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"Translation of Dempsey's warmongering: Pretty please, let us keep the rest of Ukraine."

 

I thought it was:

"To those of you in NATO/South Korea/Japan/the-rest-of-the-world now calculating the cost of a crash A-bomb development program, due to how we just jacked/punked Ukraine with our apparently worthless security guarantee ---   Don't worry.   "Next time will be different."  

Really it will.   The country name in my prepared statements will have to change."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:41 | 4540023 Soul Glow
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END NATO!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:55 | 4539524 SWRichmond
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Vee haff vays to make you buy Treasuries...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:37 | 4540481 Questan1913
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Maybe?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:07 | 4539349 1000 splendid suns
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Hey CIA, your coup not going the way you planned?

Hey Kerry and Dempsy, the world can see through all of your huffle-puff.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:17 | 4539381 kaa1016
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Scaremongerring. Not a damn thing is going to happen.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:09 | 4539878 DaddyO
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With these nitwits at the helm, I wouldn't be too sure...

There is a lot more at stake than just the Ukraine.

Obama's pride being number one on the hit parade.

His pride is tied directly to the puppetmasters and their financiers.

Just look up thread at the reference to Exxon. Oil is a powerful motivation when the world's economy runs on it.

DaddyO

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:56 | 4539526 Tim_
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West to accelerate proxy war on Syria: Report


"The West is planning a new push against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad through funding proxy war on the conflict-stricken country, a report suggests."

"The British daily The Guardian reported that a fresh clandestine effort is under way for opening up a 'southern front' against the Syrian president."

"A secret command center for international operations in Amman is monitoring preparations for the offensive. This center is staffed by military officials from the US, Britain, Israel and 11 Arab states opposed to Assad."

"Saudi Arabia has been the main supplier of weapons and funds to foreign-backed militants inside Syria."

"The United States is also constructing runways for reconnaissance aircraft near the border between Jordan and Syria to help with the operation against Syria."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:40 | 4539712 Thought Processor
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Thanks for that little tid bit.

 

Just in case anyone was wondering if the TPTB were trying to de-escelate things.

 

Nope.  Quite the opposite.

 

This should be a future history lesson on "how to pick a geo-political fight" on more than one front.

 

War is coming, that much is clear.  Because you can't reset things without using war as the scapegoat.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:19 | 4539917 MarsInScorpio
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Thought:

 

Your perspectives are amazingly perceptive.

-30-

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:55 | 4539805 new game
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christ almighty, the sheer madness will never end. pipelines again...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:11 | 4539888 DaddyO
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With all due respect, I don't think Christ Almighty has any hand in this battle of egos.

This is Flesh v. Flesh and the battle royale that ensues.

DaddyO

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:49 | 4539019 Mister Ponzi
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Indeed unbelievable.

"If Russia is allowed to do this, which is to say move into a sovereign country under the guise of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine, it exposes Eastern Europe to some significant risk, because there are ethnic enclaves all over Eastern Europe and the Balkans," Dempsey said.

Created by whom? Who destroyed Yugoslavia? Who recognized an independent Kosovo? Who bombed Serbia under the guise of protecting ethnic Albanians (and stood then idly by when they killed Serbs, Jews and Roma in Kosovo)?

This whole Crimea story reveals the West's hypocrisy by the day.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:01 | 4539097 shovelhead
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Actually, Obama is pulling a Slobo here.

"You're gonna be united under my (bankster) rule whether you like it or not."

Then it turns into complete and total shit.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:28 | 4539207 ThirdWorldDude
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Actually, Slobo was a reaction to the KLA action.

McCain and the KLA connection

See how that ended up? Kosovo became The Empire's protectorate and in return The Empire got its largest military base and CIA center in SE Europe.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:40 | 4538904 Manthong
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Now you know why all those Generals were dumped by the DC cabal.

And I wonder if the Snowman has a list of all the IP and MACs of a certain MIC...

where is he now anyways?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:27 | 4538907 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Oh, this will look great for Obammy when a US carrier group is sunk. Leave them sort out their mess.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:06 | 4539348 spine001
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I find most comments here incredibly disingenenuous and lacking in knowledge. Obama will have to work hard to not humiliate the Russians militarily, since such humilliation will create a second arms race. The USA secret weaponry is so far beyond what Russia even dreams of having that makes my mind blow.

I can speak because I don't know anything for a fact, but I can extrapolate really well from what is known from 30 something years ago, place weaponry sophistication in one axis and technological know how in the other. Then move the know how by several orders of magnitude and you can start guessing what the USA has today. And this is my area of expertize. WOW!

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:39 | 4539458 El Vaquero
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How'd those king tigers work out for Germany in WWII?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:50 | 4539497 ILLILLILLI
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You're probably going to need medical attention after pulling that one out of your ass...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:20 | 4539587 11b40
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Viet Nam = Pungi Stakes (no cost)

Iraq = IED's (low cost)

What else you got?

Or, maybe you have a list of glorious American victories over the past 30 years, against any foe with the ablity to fight back, that I don't know about.

We don't know why we are fighting and don't know what it means to win.....but we have some great whiz-bang techno shit, and man is it ever expensive.  We aren't worried though.  Just print up some fresh Janet Bucks when we start running low and spread 'em around the MIC.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:27 | 4540641 Cheduba
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And American technology is powered by Chinese computer chips.  Hmmm, maybe the Chinese will just remotely shut down all the electronics in our military equipment...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:40 | 4539708 J S Bach
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"The USA secret weaponry is so far beyond what Russia even dreams of having that makes my mind blow."

All that "secret weaponry" sure has brought about quick success in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I'm sure it'll be even easier for us when we confront a pushover adversary like the Russian Bear.

What lunacy. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:07 | 4539861 new game
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proxy in syria or nato in ukraine, either way, the madness begins; i fear not for i walk in the valley of darkness, well fear not these madmen want war as they head to the valley of death...

thinking out loud, if this issue over crimera goes hot, what's to stop putin from attacking the flank, which is...

this could get very interesting very fast; two battle fronts one enemy...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:03 | 4539850 SunnyDD
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Hehe, I know.

WWIII we will be Obama vs UFO.

me waitting for de new ID4, hehehe...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:50 | 4539390 MrPalladium
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Pure genius!!

The U.S. has provoked both Russia and China into massive increases in their defense spending just when the U.S. is descending into third world status!!

The United States of massive low IQ immigration and infinte working age welfare.

We shall see who comes out on top!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:51 | 4539501 Leopold B. Scotch
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Democracy is the stupid belief that collective genius can be created from individual ignorance when run through the ballot box ; it is the theory the people deserve to get exactly what they want -- AND GOOD AND HARD!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:27 | 4539647 11b40
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Therein lies the problem.

Americans keep being told over and over again that we have a democracy.  We do not, and never have had.

From the beginning, our founding fathers understood the nature of a democracy is ultimately mob rule.  That is exactly why we have a constitutional republic.  It is managed by a democratically elected governing body, which has become corrupted.  The government of the United States has been overthrown and the people warming their seats in Congress, The Supreme Court, and the White House are essentially traitors.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:02 | 4540359 Freddie
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USA = Trayvon-ville

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:39 | 4540388 Freddie
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Dupe caused by NSA

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:27 | 4538910 inevitablecollapse
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pecan logs for all!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:58 | 4539083 Pure Evil
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@jQp

 

"how much further to 'full retard'?"

 

Are you sure you didn't mean to ask, What's the next level past FULL RETARD?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:05 | 4539340 maskone909
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the only way they will be able to sell this war to congress and the Amirican people is through a false flag attack.  the sheep know that afgahn and iraq wars were on false pretexts.  it will take some serious bloodshed to get the ball rolling here.  this is insanity. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:06 | 4538780 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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Sure!

After they go off everything glows green.

/sarc

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:23 | 4538883 fonestar
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what happened now?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:30 | 4539219 Will To Live
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Another Nobel Peace Prize... in the bag.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:24 | 4539403 Dave Thomas
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Actually developing "Green" weaponry is probably more of a growth industry than you think. Imagine how many people would feel better knowing that an MK-84 can take out swaths of the great unwashed with little or no environmental impact? Hell if it could leave behind a fresh pine scent hippies would even get behind carpet bombing unfortunate peoples.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:29 | 4539657 pot_and_kettle
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genesis project?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:53 | 4539054 general ambivalent
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Keep telling yourself that. Your leaders are worse than Hitler, Stalin, Khan, and all the pederasts of Ancient Rome.

They want a war, and they know there has to be a war. There is no world government without it. If they leave it this time it is only to build up further.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:53 | 4539516 Leopold B. Scotch
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Any good authoritarian bunch knows that without a solidy bogeyman to rally the rabble up against, those rabble start questioning why there is a constant dick in their asses put there by the authorities.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:39 | 4539605 Jambo Mambo Bill
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Well said.

Its a takeover! all chips in! if it’s not now it will be in a near future. For a Global takeover there is only 2 countries in the way, and Russia is the difficult one, China is already contained and suffocating itself in toxic shit...

In the end of the day, these war mongers wouldn't mind few Western cities destroyed and taking us all to hell to achieve their main goal, THE FIRST WORDWIDE EMPIRE!

It will end up Russia subs sending nukes to few of our cities and the West pulverising Russia to a HUGE BIG FUCKING COLD DESERT FULL OF POST NUCLEAR ZOMBIES. Our Economies will crash, radioactive fallout will hit the whole World, the military will take over the streets in orange suits and the survivors will endure decades of mutations, slavery and scarce resources... MADMAX style basically, but NWO version.

The West has the upper hand, and Russia is in trouble big time and they know it. No matter what they say, they will be wrong. Even if Putin gives up Crimea, all its ships and bend over for Obummers golden dick, they will still be wrong, and NATO, G7, NWO, the boy scouts, you name it will come down to beat the shit of them until they are finished!

The sharks tasted blood in the water and they will only stop when there is nothing left.

Russia/China and the west will be the last war before our first Worldwide Government, the NWO will win! China will be folded and contained and end of story, this is taking in consideration that China will fight! They can well selloff the tough talk and Russia out in the end and just keep doing what they are doing, being the West bitch slave to the end of times for the exchange of some money and some guarantees that they will be left alone.

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:54 | 4538698 BaBaBouy
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$ $ $ $ $ USA MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX $ $ $

... Awaken$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:58 | 4538729 Thought Processor
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This little shit show seems to be growing by the minute.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4538741 eurogold
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The U.S. military complex has completely lost it's mind !

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:12 | 4538801 i-dog
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The string-pullers know exactly what they are doing. The question is: What are they doing and what is their planned synthesis from this?

Problem...Reaction...Solution.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:20 | 4538863 HardAssets
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The general didnt get the memo:  Ukraine is not a member of NATO and there are no treaty obligations to defend it.

Seems that in order to get a top position in America today you need to be a sell-out , moron, or completely insane.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:32 | 4538937 pods
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One of the nazis in control of the Ukraine said that he would like to be a part of NATO someday.  Good enough for us to drop bombs.

Remember, we drop bombs on fucking weddings for Christ sakes.

pods

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:10 | 4539131 fonestar
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Why would any self-repecting Nazi or skinhead group want to ally with GAYTO?

fonestar swears the threat of war drops dumb apes IQ another ten points.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:06 | 4539571 Tim_
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The jews are responsible for the turmoil in Ukraine. "Nazis" have nothing to do with it.


Akhmetov joins Ukraine oligarchs in pledging to protect homeland

"Rabbi Shmuel Kaminezki, spiritual leader of the Jewish community in Dnipropetrovsk, praised Mr Kolomoisky and denied Russian claims that extremists out to persecute Russians and other minorities had taken over power in Ukraine."

"'The Jewish community is very proud of his decision to leave his comfort zone and really devote himself...to protect the homeland and develop the region,' the Rabbi said."

"'What the Russians, with their propaganda on television and in their statements, are doing is trying to show that Ukraine is anti-Semitic, which is not true. It is very safe here for the Jews. This new Ukrainian leadership is not a fascist leadership, they are patriots,' he added."


Despite calls for neutrality in Ukraine protests, young Jews are on the front lines

"Reading about the protests on Facebook and seeing anti-Semitic comments is different from the reality on the ground, Oleynikova added."


The ex-Israeli soldier who led a Kiev fighting unit

"'I don’t belong [to Svoboda], but I take orders from their team. They know I’m Israeli, Jewish and an ex-IDF soldier. They call me 'brother,'' he said. 'What they’re saying about Svoboda is exaggerated, I know this for a fact. I don’t like them because they’re inconsistent, not because of [any] anti-Semitism issue.'"

"But Delta says the Kremlin is using the anti-Semitism card falsely to delegitimize the Ukrainian revolution, which is distancing Ukraine from Russia’s sphere of influence."

"'It’s bullshit. I never saw any expression of anti-Semitism during the protests, and the claims to the contrary were part of the reason I joined the movement. We’re trying to show that Jews care,' he said."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 16:57 | 4540325 Independent
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LOL 'young jews are on the front lines' an euphemism for IDF mercenaries and special forces orchestrating the overthrow with the CIA and Blackwater goons, just like they were advising the Georgians.  I am sure the snipers were Israeli special forces, what is not to love about shooting some neo nazis heck I would do it also.  Maybe this is why the neo cons and Obummer got rid of all those generals and officers, they were opposed to the pending showdown in Ukraine triggered by interfering in the country,

If I was with Putin I would get on TV and warn the world of the threat of neo-Nazis terrorists taking over elected governments and say you are either with us or against us as he quotes our illustrious former president.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:54 | 4539801 Black Warrior W...
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Even apes aren't dumb enough to refer to themselves in the third-person.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:33 | 4538942 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Or all of the above.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:48 | 4539028 SilverRhino
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Actually there are.  

1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances.   

 

Not sure if this is an actual validated TREATY or a political agreement that the USA signed on to, but it is real.   

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:54 | 4539064 Husk-Erzulie
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It's not a treaty and it's not binding.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:52 | 4539049 Yoki
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With INSANE Being the requierment

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4538747 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yes, this summer is the 100 Anniversary of the start of WW1, and last Dec. was the 100 Anniversary of the Fed.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:37 | 4539694 Kobe Beef
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Don't forget the 200th anniversary of the Burning of Washington DC this August 24th. Happy Burn it Down Day!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:03 | 4539104 Max Cynical
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Long war bonds...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:23 | 4538881 RSloane
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For the sake of not embarassing US citizens further around the globe, could the US gov, all its agencies, and the president and his administration just shut the fuck up for a few days? Jesus Christ, its like they let little boys with action figures play on the world stage.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:58 | 4539078 general ambivalent
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Hundreds of years of embarrassment. Home. Roost. 'That's terrrissss, bro!'

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:02 | 4539100 HardAssets
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Well, if there is global thermonuclear WW3, would the other guys please have the decency to target D.C. for the first nuke salvo ?

It would be nice to not have to put up with those assholes any longer . . . . even if it was only for a few minutes.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4539115 devnickle
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RSloane.

 

Seriously! My thoughts EXACTLY. Just STFU already!!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:34 | 4538946 schadenfreude
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or London

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:16 | 4539376 disabledvet
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"this will be a collective repsonse."

everyone is escalating...the original obligation within the Treaty was an "attack against one is an attack against all." If you overlay this with history however (recent out of area operations going on decades now, World War II where there was no collective response to Hitler) and absolutely...you have a very dangerous situation.

Putin and Co. do have a claim over Kiev Rus...but so far (laying down land mines?) they have not staked that claim properly...nor are they acknowledging that it is even being done ("we don't know who these people are.")

This sets off all the alarm bells in the West...so, no...they will and indeed have not "done nothing." This could quickly become "fifty countries against one." Even Putin has acknowledged that the Government of Ukraine (onviously) isn't "fascist." What territorial claims on their neighbors are they making again? Were they disrespecting the Rights of Minority populations in Crimea? Not that I'm aware of.

Qccording to the local folks "you chose the wrong side" when the Spetnasz attacked. That has profound historical implications as anyone in Kiev Rus knows. They never had a "choice" vis a vis German and Russian designs.

As "Uncle Joe" Stalin said "how many divisions have you?"
Hopefully...again...cooler heads will prevail. I see nothing wrong with Russia recognizing the Government of Kiev. I don't see how anybody can actually.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:51 | 4538671 john39
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probably no intent to do so, but the hidden hand has a way kicking things off when it really wants a war.  with the players in position, one well placed false flag, and the blood will flow.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:51 | 4539045 Husk-Erzulie
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Now there's a feller who reads and understands his history.  If you ask me the pieces are in place and I believe the Hidden Hand does desire a new global conflict.  I think they are as prepared as ever they could be to take it to the "next level".  It's now or never, time marches on.  So don't be surprised; not only does The Hidden Hand have "a way kicking things off when it really wants a war", but it can literally happen overnight.  The landscape can change so fucking fast it will take your breath away.  Read your 20th century history and you will know exactly how this will likely* play.

*if, in fact, they are ready.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:07 | 4539119 shovelhead
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"The Hun is at the gates...Buy War Bonds."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:06 | 4539108 tony wilson
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calm down pladizow team usa has poland watching are backs.

DO NOT MESS WITH THE POLISH MAN COMPRENDAY

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:47 | 4538644 Arius
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Give peace a chance!

 

i for one still believe in Kerry - Lavrov back channel ... these are smart guys who get it, and if they find an agreement all will be well ...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:37 | 4538959 cro_maat
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Now that's funny. I gave you an up arrow for blatant sarcasm that most seem to have missed.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:07 | 4539350 maskone909
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he wasnt being sarcastic ;-(

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:56 | 4539077 FlipFlop
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We are so mega fucked that peace might not solve the issues. A nice war and post-war construction boom based on new financial system is likely to help.
We will then return to capitalism as the current socialist states are destroyed either physically or financially.

End the folly. End the socialism. Russia is seeking the same goals as the US. Why is it more legitime for the US? iraq. Yes, it was about freedom fries. If pro-china or Russian forces were about to take power in Mexico, what would the US do? Acknowledge the fact and let then proceed. Hey cumon.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:30 | 4539417 Freddie
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Hey Dempsey - don't ground troops need air cover?  This is not Iraq, Kosovo or Afghanistan.     Good luck with F-18's, A-10s, B-2 (phony stealth) and B-52 against S-400s and other Russian AA and anti-ship missiles if the US Navy gets involved.   

The Russian stuff is pretty state of the art now.   Oh and please send those pieces of shit F-22 and F-35s up against Su-27s and Su-35s so they will get greased.  Canada, Australia and other countries will cancel those F-35 orders faster than you can say Barack Obama.   No one wants that piece of shit F-35.

You better not F with the Russians.  You cannot bully them like Libya or Tunisia.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:31 | 4539432 rotagen
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Yeah that's it, We Be Fightin' for Freedoms !!  What's Freedim Agin ??

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:41 | 4538595 TahoeBilly2012
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The New US Military = "Rainbow Coaltion Soldiers"

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:50 | 4538643 scrappy
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I say we go all in with our OWC, Obese Wheelchair scooter Corps.

I hear they upgraded the joy stck control.

Fuck yeah!

(We can fund it with comic book sales)

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:03 | 4538764 eaglerock
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Yes, the huvaround will be the new humvee.  All paid for by Medicare!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4538653 Winston Smith 2009
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Every military in human history has always been a "rainbow coalition."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:02 | 4538760 Colonel Klink
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Not openly!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:14 | 4538829 McMolotov
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America! Fuck yeah (we're fabulous)!*

*not that there's anything wrong with that...

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:08 | 4539124 Oh regional Indian
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Very good point. Homosexual rage has long been juice for amed slaughter. The military understands this really well.

The US military is rape central both ways, as an example.

ori

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:32 | 4539974 BeansMcGreens
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Just wait till there is one of those Navy nuclear attack submarines filled with bull dykes. They will be going down and all pissed off with mankind.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:11 | 4540399 drdolittle
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Homosexual rage? Angry at clutter, bad fashion or what?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:34 | 4540469 mccvilb
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General Buck Turgidson incarnate. All we need now is for someone to dig up Andy Devine and strap him onto a nuclear weapon. Since when does the American military exercise its authority on foreign policy over the POTUS? The ghost of the late Sec of Defense Alexander Haig must be pissed Dempsey had the nerve to usurp his Presidential hierarchal standing in the MSM. What a clusterfuck.

"I'm in control here."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4538770 TahoeBilly2012
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Yea, I want to see our infantry (with some 5 foot 1 hispanic gals from FLA with Obama patches on the fatigues who can barely speak english) go take on the Russian infantry....hahaha. Pretty sure we shot our wads in the Mid east. The US will get its clock cleaned on the ground so this can only be an air battle. They better have those robots ready from DARPA.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:33 | 4538938 nightshiftsucks
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What Billy,do you think just because you're a fucking pussy that all americans are ?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:38 | 4539217 TahoeBilly2012
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My point is simple. War was BAD when it was white truck driving Republicans were the only supporters, now its GOOD since it's been foisted on the general multi cultured, Democrat voting, Obama loving population at large. They have in fact taken the "good old boys" out the wood shed, the ones that came home need to be medicated due to PTSD and are "dangerous" as many who can think clearly are now asking what these endless wars are all about. So what are we left with, how about the next generation of "cannon fodder", which will be trading "dumbshit population A" (good old boys) for "dumbshit population B" (demorats of all shapes size and colors).

The end is coming punk, better plan correctly.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:10 | 4539362 maskone909
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the MSM would have you believe that.  but i assure you, they are waking up.  there will always be a small population of those that remain in a coma.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:46 | 4539020 ratpack1968
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Can't wait to see the sassy new uniforms. I do hope the utility packs match the shoes.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:56 | 4539525 prmths2
Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:52 | 4539746 TahoeBilly2012
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OMG I thought I was kidding.."Hey Igor, don't shoot don't shoot, look at these....you like? Why don't we just talk this out, he what is your guyziz problem with Obama anyways? Hey and are you guyzis getting any text messages out here, I so wannaz Facebook post meeting you here? OMG, gag me with a spoon Ukraine cell service."

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:36 | 4539449 Freddie
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America with leader Obamo and the elite FSM (Free Shit Army).

The hilarity is weapons systems from the incredibly corrupt military contractors are largely shit.  F-35, F-22 and that piece of shit from AIPAC General Dynamics that is a tank that can go into water.  Total junk.

The only thing good on the M1 Abrams is the German gun.   The Russian anti-tank missiles made mince meat of the Israeli Merkava tank that was supposed to be good.

The M4/M-16 is still a piece of shit after 50 years. Well Lady Bird did own stock in the company just like LBJ owning stock in all the Vietnam corrupt defense contractors. The M4 has major problems.

Americans and the families of servicemen better say F NO! to any war because this will be ugly.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:22 | 4540433 drdolittle
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Hopefully we won't find out cause it would mean so many tragedies but I think you're wrong. Our weapons crush opposition. I don't think the ruskies can shoot down our stealth bombers and fighters, they don't show up oradar. Anyone else got that capability? Plus, you're opinions are conjecture. Seen Russian weapons systems in action? Against modern US systems. I'll give you the AK is totally dope (own one, damn their bulletproof) but the M16 has its pluses too, namely vbetter accuracy.

I think the lack of war will be about supply lines. It's a land route from moscow and us has thousands of miles of hostile territory to try to traverse. For this reason we'll back down. Don't know why all the bs posturing from our so called leaders.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 15:31 | 4539963 SunnyDD
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nope, It is the "UN Coaltion Soldiers"

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:44 | 4539009 AreaMan
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It is not a soldiers place to "refuse to fight". Soldiers are taught to refuse unlawful orders not interpret complex geo politicol economic issues. There is no shame in following the orders of your country as long as your not asked to commit atrocities that violate what would be considered a "lawful order". It is on the PEOPLE of the country to prevent a great loss of life by Soldiers who have committed to protecting you and your family. Its time for the PEOPLE to protect our Soldiers!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:28 | 4539209 dbTX
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It's hard for me to understand how sending Amereican's into the Ukraine will help protect me and my family.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:59 | 4539313 Pure Evil
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You musta forgot to take the RED, WHITE, and BLUE pill this morning.

Now get out there and wave the Merxican flag (NAU) and get your patriotism on.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:11 | 4540374 Independent
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There are many Jew oligarchs in Ukraine that need protection of their financial empires, since Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, one of the leading Rabbis of Israel called Gentiles "Goyim (gentiles, non-Jews) were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel," he said, according to the Jerusalem Post. "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created." An "effendi" is a lord, or a master, in Arabic.

So now dbTX you see you are the slave that is supposed to die for the dual citizens, not your family, their loss if you die or are maimed and left without limbs does not matter as long as you serve your Master.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rab...

 http://iamthewitness.com/Ukraine.html

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/155976/ukraines-wester...

 

 

 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:49 | 4539284 Greenskeeper_Carl
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don't count them all out. remember how much attention all those guys got, wearing their uniforms but covering their faces, saying they wll not participate in another war? there are plenty of blunt insturments who will do anything they are told without thought, but there are also plenty who won't, and one person speaking out and saying the right things can have a big effect on a large group of soldiers. don't think for a second those at the top have forgotten that RP got more donations than the rest of them combined during the last election.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:17 | 4539601 DosZap
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Conn cops/LE are, always have been JACK BOOTED THUGS.

Folks there need to  PLAN for this event should it happen(paybacks can be a bitch), and I DO NO SEE how it would stand the light of SCOTUS rulings already.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:39 | 4538572 GumbyMe
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Forget refusal, just outright rebel.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:40 | 4538584 kaiserhoff
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Yeah, that's helpful.  Isn't that Geezer too old to be in uniform?  When did we go full Soviet?  Or has Obama purged all the officers who are not on board with the new world order?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:00 | 4538744 firstdivision
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Now you know the real reason Obama replaced all the Air Force personel incharge of the nukes.  They just used "test cheating" as a red herring. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:40 | 4538585 Payne
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North Korea will start to rumble soon, just to remind the US of all its borders.  Then China and Japan get noisy.  How about Iran, maybe Syria.  Everyone make noise at the same time and maybe the big bully will realize his pants are around his ankles.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:41 | 4538593 Canadian Dirtlump
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The same general dempsey that didn't want a fight in Syria is talking about military action in Russia. Sure thing.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:05 | 4538778 Urban Redneck
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He he said "...NATO allies. And I have assured them that if that treaty obligation is triggered [in Europe], we would respond..."

Which leaves a couple points subject to interpretation...

1) Does he want a phone call before or after Putin marches on Brussels?  Since Ukraine isn't a NATO ally?

2) How exactly will he respond to treaty obligations being triggered, with an ICBM or a case of Bollinger?

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:25 | 4538899 Canadian Dirtlump
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Good points of course which shows this, like the strategic petroleum reserve release, is nothing more than a capricious and hysterical comment / decision on par with a jilted lover lashing out without thinking.

 

One of these days these fucks will get the WW3 they want.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:33 | 4539437 cougar_w
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WW3 started round about 2008. They've been using monetary ammunition up to now, but don't kid yourself, it became war as soon as Lehman went down and nearly took out the global oligarch class.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:28 | 4540453 drdolittle
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Economic warfare first. When they write the history books the start of wwIII will be about now. China will crush Japan when theUS is busy with the soviets and Iran, if it goes hot. Which it always does. Fing bullshit. The masters make the rules for the wise men and the fools but it's allright ma, I'm only dying

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:46 | 4539482 Freddie
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The only army in Europe that might show up for a war is the Poles.  I hope Putin marches to Brussels and puts those commies like Baroso and Van Rompouy on trail and hang them.  Most Europeans will cheer. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 10:57 | 4538710 discopimp
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US Military Needs To Refuse to Fight!...as it did in Syria!!

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:54 | 4540527 steelhead23
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Sadly, at West Point they seldom read Tennyson:

"Forward, the Light Brigade!"

Was there a man dismay'd?

Not tho' the soldier knew

 Someone had blunder'd:

Theirs not to make reply,

Theirs not to reason why,

Theirs but to do and die:

Into the valley of Death

 Rode the six hundred.

 

This is a poem about a British military loss during the Crimean War.  I'm guessing Dempsey's old enough to know a bit about calvary and knows one end of a horse from the other.  Good, he just proved that he's a horse's ass.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4538745 mccvilb
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Time to get off the fence and get involved. Shut this zionist bullshit down. Forget about ZH for a second. Flood your Senators and Congressmen with e-mails. Do it now.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:07 | 4539121 Husk-Erzulie
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*sigh   6 down votes?  It does help to make noise...

http://whoismyrepresentative.com/

It doesn't take long.  It's cathartic (rip the living shit out of them, why not...).  Yes, you'll probably get on a list but who cares (you read ZH, Activist Post, Syrian Perspective, PCR, etc, You're already on a list bro).  It wasn't everything, but people writing hot, pointy emails to their critters definately helped stand Obozo down on Syria.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:59 | 4539316 mccvilb
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The down votes are a given. I asked for it when I expressed my opinion about Zionism. That's OK. What's important is what you're saying - turning up the volume. Thanks.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:16 | 4540412 goneYonder
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The down votes should rightfully be for advocating more useless supplication of those criminals who call themselves representatives. Ask yourself one question: Can a servant and representative have more power and rights than the principal? By playing in the system, you're condoning it.

I didn't downvote you, btw. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 17:16 | 4540413 goneYonder
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The down votes should rightfully be for advocating more useless supplication of those criminals who call themselves representatives. Ask yourself one question: Can a servant and representative have more power and rights than the principal? By playing in the system, you're condoning it.

I didn't downvote you, btw. 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 18:24 | 4540629 mccvilb
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I don't disagree with you. When Boehner and Cantor felt they had the right to speak to the MSM as equals (and the MSM was complicit in encouraging this) after a POTUS presser, that was the beginning of the end for the office of the President of the United States, all thanks to our Jewish politicians and Jewish mainstream media. Regardless, we have an obligation to NOT stay silent. We are enabling this when we do. Whenever the opportunity presents itself, be a thorn under their saddle.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:25 | 4539194 mbutler101
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Done with that crap. Those treasonous pieces of excrement in the Capital know where we stand. They are dead to me.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 11:29 | 4538922 Stoploss
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We should spend these bodies first, since we are divulging.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10692563/David-Ca...

 

Still think the UK isn't the mastermind of all this??

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4539128 general ambivalent
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America is the New JerUSAlem. Be careful what you wish for.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:58 | 4539306 Ghordius
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LOL. from the article:

""I came as Leader of the Opposition and I remember being quite bemused as I sat listening to Israeli politicians telling me all about the challenges of coalition politics.

"They told me about building a coalition, keeping it together, balancing the demands of different parties, sorting out the disputes and I just didn’t understand this strange system of government."

"But after nearly four years as Prime Minister of my own coalition all I can say is: ach-shav ani mevin," he said - a phrase which means "Now I get it.""

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 14:05 | 4539569 Freddie
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Ahh now we see why Cameron got to be PM.  I always though that he was one of them and part of the leftist move by the Tories.  Pure scum like B-Liar and Broon.

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 12:25 | 4539189 Pegasus Muse
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"US Military Needs To Refuse to Fight!"  --FTP

Nope. That ain't gonna happen. It doesn't work that way.

If you don't want anymore NeoCon Aggression/Warmongering call your Congress-Critters and tell them, "Not just no but HELL NO.  You've got an election coming up and I'm paying attention to what you are saying and doing on this crap. No military action in the Ukraine (or anywhere else)".

Drop the Clown-in-Chief, Barry Hussein Soetoro O'Bozo, a little note telling him the same. 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments 

Wed, 03/12/2014 - 13:07 | 4539353 richsob
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Uh, yea.  That's a brilliant thought.  The U.S. military just tells its civilian superiors to go fuck off.  Kinda like something that would happen in your wildest dreams.  Cuss Obama all you want (I do!) but until he's out of office he's the Commander in Chief and all the hate in the world won't change that.  The U.S. military follows orders just like the military of all other civilized countries that aren't led by military juntas.

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