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Chairman Of Joint Chiefs: US Ready For "Military Response" In Ukraine
With diplomacy having failed miserably to resolve the Russian annexation of Crimea, and soon East Ukraine (and with John Kerry in charge of it, was there ever any doubt), the US is moving to the heavy artillery. First, moments ago, the US DOE announced in a shocking announcement that it would proceed with the first draw down and sale of crude from the US strategic petroleum reserve, the first since June 2011, in what it said was a "test sale to check the operational capabilities of system infrastructure", but is really just a shot across the bow at Putin for whom high commodity prices are orders of magnitude more important than how the Russian stock market performs. And now, as Bloomberg just reported, the US has escalated even further, citing the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, who "has claimed that in the case of an escalation of unrest in Crimea, the U.S. Army is ready to back up Ukraine and its allies in Europe with military actions."
So much for those peaceful hour long phone calls between Obama and Putin.
From Bloomberg:
According to the Web site of the Atlantic Council, Dempsey said that "he's been talking to his military counterparts in Russia, but he's also sending a clear message to Ukraine and members of NATO that the U.S. military will respond militarily if necessary."
"We're trying to tell [Russia] not to escalate this thing further into Eastern Ukraine, and allow the conditions to be set for some kind of resolution in Crimea. We do have treaty obligations with our NATO allies. And I have assured them that if that treaty obligation is triggered [in Europe], we would respond," Dempsey said.
According to the General, the incursion of Russian troops into the Crimea creates risks for all the countries of Europe and NATO allies.
"If Russia is allowed to do this, which is to say move into a sovereign country under the guise of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine, it exposes Eastern Europe to some significant risk, because there are ethnic enclaves all over Eastern Europe and the Balkans," Dempsey said.
And with that, the USDJPY ramp takes the pair to overnight highs, and futures are set to go green. BTFWWIIID!
More seriously, the real question is how Putin will react to this quantum escalation in verbal hostilities: wild guess here, but somehow we doubt he will pick up and leave.
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I don't understand how the military is involved. This is Victoria Nuland's brat. She and other State Dept. jerks made this mess, let them pay for it. They should all get fired and evey single one of their assets stripped and distributed to all the military families who have suffered as a result of their needless wars. Make them pay. Why should the rest of us pay for their sadistic ideas with blood and treasure while they plan the next bloodfest. As long as they are allowed to create malicious mischief without question this will continue. If the US military shoots so much as one bullet over this they are damn fools. This is between the Russians and the Ukrainians and if the State Dept jerks are so upset about it give them combat gear and drop them behind Ukrainian lines. As for NATO, which is nothing but another welfare agency for lazy govt bureaucrats, we need to review and cancel the contract. It was only created to counterbalance the USSR. Or so we've been told. They got too used to all the freebies and bennies and came up with excuses to keep it.
Where else would they find so many useful idiots that they could brainwash into falsely thinking they are doing something good and noble... if not for the military.
War is old men talking, and young men dying.
The reason they don't send old men off to battle is because they would know who to Shoot when they got back.
What the fuck Putin waits? Let go.
He knows bankrupt EU and US cannot afford a war. Plus European population is just about retired, they do not bother to fight.
Please come, make an end of this socialist nightmare in the EU. Russia cannot be that bad as long as you refrain from saying anything about administration. Russia has natural resources and huge potential, what is wrong being on that side?
Being oppressed by socialist tyranny what some call free west, having property confiscated by greedy, bankrupt government and being spied by NSA, home coutry police etc etc makes you wonder that democratic means are not working. So why not give a try for Russia?
Perfect logic. Release SPR oil to suppress the price of oil and then announce the inclination to go to war.
Ah, but is the US willing to put its gold where its mouth is, and "Back the EU with gold", in Russia's upcoming "Gas for Gold" program? Given that Germany is still waiting for its gold, I guess we have our answer.
C'mon, give the 'Merican people that golden smile. Or is it a golden shower they're getting instead?
I have five boys, ages 14-21. I have told all of them that the last thing I will allow is for them to fight on foreign soil.
That being said, the Joint Chiefs had to go this route. All the rhetoric aside, the EU and US both signed that fucking agreement in 1992 with Ukraine.
Fuck. One stupid fucking move and the fuse will be lit.
So we CAN blame Daddy Bush for this one?
My country tis of thee
sweet land of liberty...
Yeah, right.
The Ukraine does not have a lawfully elected govt.
I can tell you, just by my ears alone, that something is up.
I live near an Army National Guard base in N.E. Florida. It's been REAL quiet for a long time. Then the Russians invade Crimea.
Now....I hear artillery and .30 cal machine gun fire......a lot of it at night. Dogs are going beserk.
Coincidence or correlation ?? The timing is interesting none the less.
Actually.....scratch that about the 30 cal machine gun. Just had a listen on Youtube between 30 cal and 50. Definitely what I am hearing is 50 cal. It's got a much more pronounced bass chump chump chump to it.
Aberdeen Proving Ground is very active also. Some real window shakers being set off over there.
Putin needs to be dealt with. He is a threat to Eastern and Northern Europe..
Putin is a threat to Zionist leaders and their bankers and their attempted suppression of the rights of free people everywhere.
Fuck them and their mouthpieces.
ABSOLUTELY NO US MILITARY ACTION IN THE UKRAINE!!
It's the same effing bunch who tried to drag us into Egypt, Libya, and Syria.
IridiumRebel hit the nail on the head with "My gold thanks you, yet my daughter and all of my progeny say a BIG FUCK YOU. Fuckin' warmongers...."... of course the military industrial complex's greed is insatiable making war uberprofitable. Why do the 99% allow socialpathic generals like this to spend our money, jeoporadize our lives, those of our children and their children? Answer: because they can. Stupid uninvolved sheeple... noninvolvement means you will be cannon fodder.
I do not disagree. Unfortunately, we are moving headlong into a time when discourse will be unable to solve the problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDS8Jh_6Gsw
Putin to EU: Submission? Well that's a bit of a problem. See, rumor has it the Athenians have already turned you down, and if those philosophers and, uh, boy-lovers have found that kind of nerve, then...
F*ck this Military Assh*le...If/when China,Russia, India or Iran go tits up...they won't take it lightly... look for payback on USSA soil w/ sleeper cells or a dirty bomb
China and Russia dollar dump will require not one shot to be fired by Russian forces, unless having to retaliate to US aggression.
They will dump the dollars, this is what the US is hoping for, and good at....blaming someone else. which is exactly what they need to rally the proles, as their miserable lot life wasn't because of Global trade, all the graft & corruption, bankers hyjacking the system, ineptitude on a colossal scale....no
It was because of the Russians & Chinese evil plans to take over the world...
This may very well be where its different this time...
Agreed. This is all about having someone to blame for the reset. When a loaf of bread is $7.00 you can take comfort in knowing that we are all Ukranians now.
You heard it here first. Download those foodies apps.
Kulaks unite!
As we type, factions inside/in parallel/adjacent to/or formally connected to the intelligence community have dusted off the plans for a dark option. That option is one born from desperation.
We don't have to worry about Putin or his minions/allies. We have to worry about the extremist psychopaths entrenched within this comunity and the axis of equally evil monsters that have hijacked the West. Our West.
What happens next is the precursor to a reset. Its up to free thinkers and patriots to exploit the opportunity. Use your heads. Do what must be done. Don't think, act. We aren't alone and that will become clear very quickly as we see the change unfolding before our very eyes. There are millions of you.
You may think that you're a dreamer, but you aren't the only one.
Y3maxx... if/when china, russia, india or iran to retaliate they will be demonized by the U.S. corporate owned heavily biased crap media - even though the U.S. is the one who is really the catalyst for all this. Imperialism and the self-annointed role the U.S. military has taken on as the world police will cause those on the receiving end to retaliate... in particular those whose wives and children were treated as collatoral damage. Payback? Oh yeh and can any of you blame them for it?
Hayabusa, there is no united states anymore (was there ever?). There are only maniacs and individuals that wield the power of a taxpayer funded arsenal. There was once a dream that was Rome.
Pray that eyes open.
No US is ready to send other peoples kids to their death for their own greed he should have said
well said, but look all time high on SP. oh look was that justin biber. Dont worry be happy, go collect your food stamp now
Just give mexicans US Citizensheep. They cant wait to die for US.
The Rothchilds do not handle rejection of their CBs well.
I read that as he's ready to have my family killed. Fuck Them!
Smash NATO ... neocon cunts.
I see 'neocon' being used a lot - but this bunch running the show is as Socialist as the day is long.
Barking... The war cry of impotence.
"All your Crimea are belong to Putin."
Quick! Let's back that up with another non-binding resolution!
The ONLY way there would be unrest in Crimea would be if the Russian troops WEREN'T there. Doh!
This is nothing more than a bluff from the U.S. (I really hope that is all it is)
I don't think its a bluff - TPTB are jonesing for WWIII since the economic house of cards is starting to totter. Read what "Jack Burton" has to say on this...
I think we might be seeing a divide between bankers and politicians. The bankers want the ponzi to last forever as do the politicians, however, the politicians need a diversion because their economies are tanking. Another reason why Europe is so screwed and why Rothschild bankers should not be given political office.
WWIII started 10 years ago....it just hasn't gone full scale yet because the U.S. has only been murdering "darker" skin toned people with impotent governments.
WWWIII is on ALL of us regardless of color.
It's the Global Elite against the people.
A "Skittle Rainbow" of change, nothing to worry about, back to the really important stuff - drinking. Alot.
So...basically the U.S. is willing to deny the people of the Crimea their right to be free of Ukrainian/Kiev rule.
Such a force for freeedom, and Democracy, and the rights of people the U.S. has become in the last decade!
The US has denied peoples of many lands their right to choose their own leaders.
Why the hell does the US think it has the right to interfere in every country across the world?
Superiority complex, much like the British pre-world war 1.
Of course, the Germans told them to suck it. Much like Putin and indirectly China are now telling the U.S. to suck it.
"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
mrblah, No....the Crimea is settled, it is part of the Russian Federation now. This is all to save face.
The U.S. warmongers are now focused on E. Ukraine. "They" are telling the sheople of America that "they" will protect the poor Ukraine (and the children) from "the big bad communist Russians lead by the meniacal Putin...who you know, was a KGB agent. " However, Putin will do nothing in the E. Ukraine, and the U.S. will tout that it saved them from the big bad Russians. The Ukraines become debt serfs to the NWO and an US military base is constructed for the "global force for good" in E. Ukraine
Russians won't back down knowing the Western Powers orchestrated another Coup to setup a puppet governement to control those oil pipes. Hopefully there wont be blood but I doubt Russia will back down at this point. ITS the principle.
You left out the part of "even in the US".
Red and blue are the only two crayons that you're allowed to choose to color your world.
As if they have a choice, join russia now or join russia later are
the two options on the ballot paper. The Tatars and Ukrainians
wont vote on this because they have no choice.
Of course they have a choice.
If the people dont want Russia there, they could turn the Crimea into another Baghdad. Or Kabul.
Instead, the majority who are Pro-Russia are storming pro-Kiev buildings waving Russian flags.
Thats the part the West ignored in Afghanistan, then Iraq, but which Russia took notice of; never intervene when the people dont want you to.
And certainly never install a govt thats pro-you, at the peoples expense, when the majority arent in favour of you.
Ironic that the defenders of the free world choose to ignore this. Since its democracy on display; the Majority internally deciding.
What cock ! Did you bother reading my post, let me spell it out
its box a Russia or box b Russia. Thats not a fucking choice. If
it was a Russia and b Independance/Autonomy or whatever then the vote would be 60/40
in favour of a. Hardly a fucking landslide.
Hmm, yeah, I read it.
But did YOU read mine? You know, where I pointed out that people can resist. And DID resist in Iraq/Afghanistan, and eventually drove us out of Iraq, and soon will in Afghanistan?
So far nobody has attacked the Russians, who seem poorly armed. Why? If 40% of the people are against them, then that is a huge number. They could EASILY over-run them.
Or are you telling me the starving third world civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq were braver and more organised than the Ukrainians?
You are a complete cock, overrun the Black sea fleets 25,000 soldiers
with the ballot papers. Get back to watching RT.
NATO had over 100,000 soldiers, 100s of aircraft dropping bombs by the hour. That doesnt even include the TENS OF THOUSANDS of Private contractors that flooded Iraq from 2005 onward, with their own weapons/aircraft, to fight on behalf of NATO.
Stop making excuses for the fact the so called 40 percent of Ukrainians you believe are against the Russian intervention are doing absolutely nothing to stop Russia.
If third world Iraqis, who are starved out and have very little external support, will stand up to over a dozen countries who are bombing them hourly, then Ukrainians have no excuse to sit by idly complaining amongst themselves.
DO SOMETHING OR SHUT UP. It really is that simple.
DO SOMETHING OR SHUT UP ? Your ignorance of the situation is mind-boggling.
It really is NOT that simple. I have outlined my points on the Crimea and you respond with references
to Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Whats that got to do with it ? Is the referendum in Crimea a fair and legal contest ?
I just cant believe youre being so blind to the current situation myself, either.
How easy is it to over-throw a government or ruling party, with even 10% of the population against it? Very. Worked in Egypt, worked in Tunisia, worked in Libya. Hell, it even worked in Ukraine!
Yet, here you are, saying that because some unelected pro-Russian crimean party has decided to hold a referendum all is lost.
No wonder the Russians havent had to fire a single shot at anyone, apart from those fools marching for the cameras.
As I said, there is no 'open' opposition to the referendum in Crimea. Where are the mass protests against it? Where are the human-chains around Russian units, demanding they leave?
There arent any.
Which is my point. If the 40% of those who are against Russian influence stand up, and protest, THEN its unfair. But so far, nobody has. They have simply remained silent, or muttered objections amongst themselves.
The Russians, and the now pro-Russia ruling party in Crimea, arent going to listen or even pretend to care unless the people protest.
And by protest I mean REALLY protest; blockade roads, burn tyres, attack buildings and/or people of influence supporting the pro-Russia movement.
Pacifism gets you nowhere.
Last weekend was the 200th year on the birth of Taras Shevchenko. A few people with Ukrainian
flags tried to commemorate the anniversary but got beaten up. Any dissent against the Russians
is dismissed quite quickly. So Blah peaceful protests don't count or are not allowed ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26508531
I see that Senator McCain is up for a fight....again.
http://www.rferl.org/emailtofriend/article/25287590.html?live=25321
It made world news though, thats what I was getting at. Which showed Russia/pro-Russians in a bad light.
If they did it daily, no matter how much pain it meant suffering, eventually the Russians/Pro-Russians in Crimea would have to start taking notice.
Russia is no more immune to criticism, and civil unrest than any other country, and Putin is well aware that in his own country there are doubters, so the last thing he needs to be seen doing is ordering Russian conscripts to beat up innocent Ukrainians that merely disagree with Russia annexing/governing Crimea.
Obama was serious in 2008 AND became President of the USA
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&list=RDdQw4w9WgXcQ#t=0
Must be the weather..... Dempsey crap.
He's one of the chosen who will be in the command bunker when WW3 breaks out. The rest of you sheep get to be unavoidable casualties.
They restarted the cold war and have warmed it up. Regan is spinning in his grave.
>> Regan is spinning in his grave.
Regan? Reagan? Fuck him and the myth of him ending the cold war.
Great comment, remember it's the flow.
http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2013/02/checkmate.html
Massive gold selling by CA. and oil price manipulation in 89.
That's what did it.
The Russians will NEVER FORGET.
In more important new today,Helga from Hogan's Heroes has died.Yes it's a sad day indeed.
Man our military solely through a draft made up of youth from families worth $100 million or more. Gee, I wonder how many wars we would have?
Ooh, ooh, I know! Pick me!
None.
You are picked, and correct. A+ for you.
If this was implemented world-wide, war would never break-out on planet Earth ever again. Coincidentally of course.
Hope he personally leads the charge.
Old men make the wars that young men have to fight.
Started by....fill in the blank.
Let's start with throwing him out of a plane over Crimea from say, 30k feet? Maybe that will shut his warmongering yap up.
With an electrified butt plug up his shriveled ass.
Suck it up, old fart.
No way should he get the butt plug. It's supposed to be a punishment
us needs this now
The war criminals in Washington are at it again.
You heard the man, HE's ready for WAR!!!
Suit his ass up and kick him over the line to Crimea.
You're a one man invasion MACHINE Dempsey!! GO GO GO!!
I don't think it's fair to send him alone. Let's clear the Pentagon of all those generals and colonels. Suit 'em up, Ship 'em out. Then, maybe we can go in and find some of the six trillion dollars that they cannot account for.
Yeah, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham could be marched in with all the other war hawks in the military.
No guns though....they get butter knives only.
Sorry, Ms. Graham is serving in the camp followers' tent.
Her contribution to the war effort.
I'm going to STHOOTMI
Sell
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Hell
Out
Of
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Military
Intervention
Now this is full retard
Now this is A full retard.
Remids me of an old german joke;
German general and his mistress having a pillow talk about the planned invasion of Russia.
Mistrees loks at map asking general to point out Russia ,and then Germany..
'Has the Fuhrer seen this map " she asks.
I read this and imagined the Hitler YouTube, "Hitler Discovers Just How Big Russia Is".
"Just take our divisions and surround it." [makes finger circle around Moscow]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjU8MFabyOs
lmao!!!
Perhaps the worst article of all time, but I was looking for Hitler videos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2425854/Commie-canine-dog-looks-...
The United States needs to stay out of this battle. After all Ukrane is on Russia's border not ours.
If the US was not meddling in Ukrane in the first place this would have never happened.
The United States is already up to it's armpits in this battle already. Ask Victoria Nuland,
To step down now marks the end of the American Century.
DC has painted themselves into a corner.There are no good options left at this point.
Not necessarily.
Give that man a bottle of Kaopectate
Based on what is coming out of his mouth he seems to have already ingested syrup of ipecac.
"The response will be to trailer in and park F-35's around strategic Russian areas and set them on fire."
Russian military forces from the air defense, called F-35 as "flying irons."
those are actually the new V-35. its based off the Chevy Volt.
Based upon what Pierre Sprey has said over the years, he helped design the F-16 and A-10, the F-35 is a piece of shit as is the F-22. He said stealth does not work and is a scam. So the F-35 is junk like the GM Volt. All made by union boys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw
It look like El Presidente' "stompy feet", is about to make another in a long line of rookie mistakes.
When does the asshole lose rookie status? He's no rookie, he's just a fucking idiot.
Did somebody say Wookie?
Wake up folks. Obama was CHOSEN to make this particular "mistake".
The oil oligarchs are actually insane.
I think that the missing plane was the beginning of rival oligarchs going after other oligarchs directly without involving major warfare. This is not such an intelligent move and opens up direct attack on rivaling oligarchs and their family members.
That is if this is not a conspiracy and indeed seems to be as it appears.
Shiiiiiit.
Scalar weapons make planes disappear?
Obozo the clown and his merry circus. Fucking idiots running the USA.
Anytime someone attacked Russia they were totally destroyed.
This time it is different?
My Dobe says he's ready (licking his chops)..SARC
I think Putin's next move would be to announce that they are sending their best nuclear weapons scientists to Iran to 'help out' - to make more electricity, of course!
Already announced it earlier today.Russia supplying Iran with two reactors.
Russia has already announced that they remove any restrictions on the export of S-300 missiles, for all enemies of the United States. This is Iran, Korea, Pakistan and so on.
I think, now Putin will give the people of Afghanistan, about 3,000 new Russian RPG "Cornet" and "Hashim". And about 1000 the latest Russian MANPADS, with contactless explosion.
After that, the U.S. Army will be very difficult to export back to the U.S., the bodies of their soldiers and officers.
It's nice to see two Nobel Peace Prize Nominees go the fuck at it.
Next... Brighton Beach
Got myself all in a hissyfit for nothing. The US said the same about Syria.
BTFD
Unfortunately for us Amerikans, Putin knows that the New Bolsheviks need to destroy Russia in order to gain global control AND Putin knows that his only card to play is first-strike, decapitating the head of the beast with his super-silent subs and unmatched missile technology. Take out NYC and DC in minutes.
The comments are crazy today.
Check out the comments on the most recent Mt. Gox thread about the founder plundering bitcoins.
Major discussion about the change around here since the site was sold and the new Tylers took over.
So are the times.
Get over it.
And act.
http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/
Right, I'm sure he has plans for keeping all the spent fuel pools in the US irrigated after the first strike and all his own after the retaliation. If the bombs weren't an extinction event, the aftermath would be.
Cover up all the bankster crimes and economic problems with war.
History does repeat.. over and over again.
They need a war, they want a war, why don't "we" give them one?
What is the US interest in the Ukraine? Nothing, they have to do whatever is possible to keep our junk currency the reserve currency and an energy monopoly by Putin and Iran will kill the petro-dollar.
U.S. an EU wanted to bring Ukraine into EU and NATO. They started the trouble to overthrow the elected government there. That was successful and thus gave Putin the opportunity on a silver platter. Nice work U.S. and EU !
Yes of course the United States Armed Forces are ready for anything with the Russians in their own neighborhood.
Recruiting is at an all time high, and the "quality" and "quantity" of those recruits has never been better... Just ask this highly regarded ex-military veteran from 10 years ago, the same guys that train these fellows what those Russian civilians can expect from an American fighting force that will never hold back on anyone or anything cause we always fight the dirtiest of "dirty battles".
come on people lets roll...
usausausa
we got a coalition of the willing
poland
the canucks are with us mounties for the crimean horse charge.
aussie sas
we can do this
fight you fuckers join the marine corpse.
fight for israel and goldman sachs
do it
just do it for the gipper.
we got the depleted uranium
we got the monsanto depleted uranium ressitant corn
let us kill now so we can frack and gm plough later
lets roll you goy suckers
I imagine depleted uranium resistant corn tastes real good and stores forever. Long, bullish, and really long.
The citizens in the US say stay out.
The military industrial complex, Wall Street and the banksters say let's go to war. Plenty of money to be made. They will find a reason.The media is owned by the mega corporations.
Who do you think is going to win this one?
I am still searching for the popcorn. All I hear Dempsey telling Putin is that the US is ok with this as long as Putin does not expand beyond Crimea. He is also also warning Europe that they are potentially setting themselves up for future land grabs. Europe does not want to be invloved in this. They can not afford to. They are broke. With that said, it does appear that Dempsey is itching to get into a fight. At least Obama is not warning anybody.
Bullshit ! Europe is dependent only on oil and gas running from Russia through the pipelines in the Ukraine. The EU wouldn't have gotten involved had the U.S. not force them into this from the beginning. The EU will pay dearly for their loyalty to the U.S. by freezing next winter.
The bread belt of Russia..the Ukraine is very valueable..its bread vs oil....bread will win...
Fracking wins. Then we get breadoil.
No there will not be a military response. Big mouths.
Putin has the West by its balls: one wrong move and Putin default on debt, sending the Western financial system in a tail spin.
Well Troy,
The Ukrainian banks are already insolvent. He risks default even if he succeeds. That is probably why they just announced that Russia would be taking over all gas fields and businesses in the area.
Are these degenerate fucktards trying so strenuously and mightily to start armageddon??
That's what degenerate religious indoctrination gets you.
Let's all meet at Sarah Palin's house for the big invasion. lulz
Attention brave men and women in the U.S. military... the time to pull the plug on this shitshow and hold your commanders accountable (yes, including that coffee colored fag in the White House) is fast approaching.
It's your duty to protect this country against all enemies. The domestic enemies in suits and ties and carrying golf bags need to be stopped before it really is too late.
I eagerly await the green tracer rounds lighting up the telescreens hanging from walls everywhere.
I'll just patiently wait here in my corner, drinking my cheap gin in the meantime.
Assholes likes this could drive me back to drink.
But not gin...
option ran out
option ran out
Obama knows from past history a war will boost his approval rating.
First it was a war with Syria, now it's another war. The US hasn't won a war since WWII. Forget Granada
Too much "free press" to win a war these days. Wars are won by eliminating the enemy, extracting everything of value, and charging them for replacements. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
We don't fight wars anymore......haven't since they embedded "reporters"
We didn't fight in Syria, because the US awakeing People and Military said NO. Sorry Dempsey, this too has our NO vote on it as well. The People have voted, are you too old to realize this?