Google, China, The NSA, And The Fourth Turning

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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform blog,

“Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded. …it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.”

– Edward Snowden

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In my previous article Do No Evil Google – Censor & Snitch for the StateI addressed my experience with censorship through direct and indirect means by Google, other media related corporations and the Deep State they choose to protect, promote and perpetuate through propaganda. I found it interesting that websites heavily dependent on Google Adsense revenue who normally publish my articles either didn’t publish it or released it at a time when the least amount of visitors would see it. The almighty dollar usually wins out over truth in our one dimensional degenerate capitalism society, driven by greed, consumerism, gluttony and debt.

In this article I’ll examine how Google, Microsoft, Facebook Verizon and the rest of the internet based mega-corporations have consciously cooperated with the NSA and the rest of the surveillance state to violate the Fourth Amendment rights of every American. Our Founding Fathers had plenty of experience with authoritarian overlords who had no hesitation in kicking in the doors of private citizens to search and seize whatever they desired. The men who formulated the Constitution and Bill of Rights were clear and concise in their language. They laid out the right of all citizens to privacy in one perfectly succinct sentence. The putrid den of vipers in Congress today would use 10,000 sentences to insure this right would be null and void.     

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Media mouthpieces for the Deep State use their platform to lie, misinform and obscure the truth about a basic right owed to all Americans. They claim we have a living Constitution, while they methodically and systematically murder it. The only rights that matter are the rights of the invisible government of rich powerful men who pull the strings in this corporate fascist surveillance state. Justice Potter Stewart illuminated the Fourth Amendment in the 1967 Katz case. He concluded the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places.

A “search” occurs for purposes of the Fourth Amendment when the government violates a person’s “reasonable expectation of privacy.” Katz’s reasonable expectation of privacy thus provided the basis to rule the government’s intrusion, though electronic means rather than physical entry, was a search covered by the Fourth Amendment, and thus necessitated a warrant. Today, our Big Brother government controllers use the Constitution and Fourth Amendment to wipe their asses, while goliath media corporations cooperate to keep the profits flowing.     

“Even though we don’t know which companies the NSA has compromised – or by what means – knowing that they could have compromised any of them is enough to make us mistrustful of all of them. This is going to make it hard for large companies like Google and Microsoft to get back the trust they lost. Even if they succeed in limiting government surveillance. Even if they succeed in improving their own internal security. The best they’ll be able to say is: “We have secured ourselves from the NSA, except for the parts that we either don’t know about or can’t talk about.” - Bruce Schneier

The profane alliance between big banks, big corporations, and big government has created the Big Brother surveillance society we are living under today. And 95% of the populace is either willfully ignorant or perfectly happy with a boot stomping on their face forever. We have willingly become hopelessly enslaved while believing we are free. We think we are free to buy whatever clothes, iGadgets, baubles and trinkets we desire, while becoming imprisoned in the chains of credit card debt hawked by Wall Street bankers. We think we are free to pursue higher education, while being saddled with government peddled non-dischargeable student loan debt and few job opportunities. We think we are free to buy/lease whatever new vehicle we choose every three years, while falling into the trap of lifetime monthly payments to the financial elite. We imagine ourselves free to live in a 4,500 sq foot McMansion, 50 feet from another McMansion, while Wall Street creatively lures you into the shackles of an epoch of debt. We believe we live in a country admired for its morality and freedom, while in actuality the world despises us for our hubris, meddling, murdering and hypocrisy.

We assumed we were free to communicate with other citizens, utilizing the amazing technological advances of the past twenty five years, in accordance with the freedoms guaranteed under the Fourth Amendment. American patriot Edward Snowden has revealed how wrong this assumption has proven to be. The puppeteers who control the politicians and government apparatchiks have no interest in allowing citizens privacy, freedom, liberty or free speech. They have a four pronged approach to controlling the masses.

  1. Use media propaganda and modern day bread and circuses (toxic processed food, reality TV, sports, movies) to amuse and confuse the government educated, eyes wide shut, populace.
  2. Use wars on poverty, drugs, and terror to keep the willfully ignorant masses cowering in fear, begging for more government programs, and pleading for more laws, regulations and statutes, which strip our freedoms, liberties and rights.
  3. Highly compensate the intellectuals, media pundits, economists, and thought leaders to promote the agenda of the ruling class. Truth is of no concern. Propaganda, misinformation, outright lies, and spinning a storyline are the techniques of choice to keep the masses bemused, confused and defused.
  4. As the Brave New World techniques begin to fail and more people are awakened to the increasing tyranny of an unelected invisible government, Orwellian techniques are instituted. The metadata collection by the NSA, with the cooperation of corporate America, is being done to intimidate those who might voice discontent and provide the controllers with the means to eliminate opposition and freedom of speech.

A population unable or unwilling to think critically doesn’t comprehend the extreme danger to our civil liberties from the unwarranted intrusion into our private lives by a surveillance police state bent on bribing, coercing and silencing dissent, truth and First Amendment rights. Civil libertarian, John Whitehead, captures the essence of our plight.

“Intrinsically, privacy is precious to the extent that it is a component of a liberty. Part of citizenship in a free society is the expectation that one’s personal affairs and physical person are inviolable so long as one remains within the law. A robust concept of freedom includes the freedom from constant and intrusive government surveillance of one’s life. From this perspective, Fourth Amendment violations are objectionable for the simple fact that the government is doing something it has no license to do–that is, invading the privacy of a law-abiding citizen by monitoring their daily activities and laying hands on their person without any evidence of wrongdoing.

Privacy is also instrumental in nature. This aspect of the right highlights the pernicious effects, rather than the inherent illegitimacy, of intrusive, suspicionless surveillance. For example, encroachments on individual privacy undermine democratic institutions by chilling free speech. When citizens–especially those espousing unpopular viewpoints–are aware that the intimate details of their personal lives are pervasively monitored by government, or even that they could be singled out for discriminatory treatment by government officials as a result of their First Amendment expressive activities, they are less likely to freely express their dissident views.” – John W. Whitehead – A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State

Do No Evil, Unless it is Profitable

“I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.” Edward Snowden



It’s amazing how corporate principles, codes of conduct, ethics, and morality can be cast aside by men when their wealth and power is dependent upon casting them aside. Google’s Do No Evil slogan is now a bad joke as they have consistently ignored their own motto by doing business with evil governments, bowing down to the demands of authoritarian surveillance states, and willingly handing over the private information of people to the government. They have done this in order to boost their profits and enrich their executives. The 120 million internet users in China are too big of a market, with vast profit potential, for Google to pass up over a little torture, murder, and repression by the Chinese government. Google bowed to the Chinese government and produced a censored, state-approved version of its search portal, enabling filters that block search terms such as Tibet, Taiwanese independence, Tiananmen Square protests, Falun Gong movement, freedom, democracy, political protest and prevent the engine from finding certain websites banned by the state. It also does not offer its blog or e-mail services in China in order to comply with government restrictions denying free speech. I guess evil is in the eye of the shareholder.

Human rights groups are the only ones who have called out Google for their hypocrisy, censorship of free speech and worshiping at the altar of the almighty yuan. Google is not alone in kowtowing to the authoritarian regime in China, as Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook and any other internet provider must agree to censorship and turning over private information to the authorities. Microsoft shut down the U.S. hosted, pseudonymous blog of a Chinese journalist, and Yahoo turned over to the Chinese government personal e-mail files of an online dissident who was subsequently sentenced to ten years in prison. These corporate tools of the state care not that China is still one of the most repressive countries on Earth, with tens of thousands jailed dissidents and political prisoners, as well as being a serial abuser of copyright laws.

The Communist Party’s propaganda department has ramped up operations at Office 1106, an organization which trawls cyberspace for subversion. All websites, bloggers and bulletin-board operators must register with the government and Beijing has a special internet police force responsible for shutting down “unacceptable” sites, blocking foreign news sites and jailing people for online postings. The press freedom group Reporters Without Borders described Google’s acquiescence to authoritarianism as “a black day for freedom of expression in China”. They realized this was the first step on a downward path to loss of freedom around the world:

“But they continue to justify themselves by saying their presence has a long-term benefit. Yet the internet in China is becoming more and more isolated from the outside world and freedom of expression there is shrinking.”

The Free Tibet Campaign describes Google’s surrender as an endorsement of censorship and repression. “With this move, Google’s motto ‘do no evil’ is in smithereens,” said the campaign’s spokeswoman Alison Reynolds. “This also further contradicts those political leaders who attempt to convince us that foreign business can change China for the better.” Google Earth does not recognize the word Tibet. These corporations use the predictable spin that it will notify users when access had been restricted and argues that it could play a more useful role in China by participating than by boycotting it. Tell that to the thousands of freedom fighters languishing in gulags. We know Google willingly censors on behalf of governments. Based on the revelations from Edward Snowden, you can be sure Google provides the identities of Chinese citizens who voice dissenting opinions about the Chinese government directly to the Chinese secret police. We are all enemies of the state and subject to surveillance, censorship and ultimately imprisonment. We are living in a modern technological dystopian nightmare, with no hope of awakening.

“The world is not sliding, but galloping into a new transnational dystopia. This development has not been properly recognized outside of national security circles. It has been hidden by secrecy, complexity and scale. The internet, our greatest tool of emancipation, has been transformed into the most dangerous facilitator of totalitarianism we have ever seen. The internet is a threat to human civilization.

These transformations have come about silently, because those who know what is going on work in the global surveillance industry and have no incentives to speak out. Left to its own trajectory, within a few years, global civilization will be a postmodern surveillance dystopia, from which escape for all but the most skilled individuals will be impossible. In fact, we may already be there.

While many writers have considered what the internet means for global civilization, they are wrong. They are wrong because they do not have the sense of perspective that direct experience brings. They are wrong because they have never met the enemy.” – Julian Assange – Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet

Big Google and the Surveillance State

“Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order and the like.”William O. Douglas – Points of Rebellion, 1969

Found it on Reddit

“We have seen segments of our Government, in their attitudes and action, adopt tactics unworthy of a democracy, and occasionally reminiscent of totalitarian regimes. We have seen a consistent pattern in which programs initiated with limited goals, such as preventing criminal violence or identifying foreign spies, were expanded to what witnesses characterized as “vacuum cleaners”, sweeping in information about lawful activities of American citizens. The tendency of intelligence activities to expand beyond their initial scope is a theme which runs through every aspect of our investigative findings. Intelligence collection programs naturally generate ever-increasing demands for new data. And once intelligence has been collected, there are strong pressures to use it against the target.”  ? Church Committee -1975

William O. Douglas and Frank Church foresaw the overreach of the surveillance state decades before Edward Snowden nobly sacrificed his future and risked his life to reveal the vast illegal collection of private phone calls, texts, emails, downloads, and every electronic communication of every person in America by a secret government agency operating in the shadows. The Chinese experience was a prelude to how Google, Yahoo, Verizon and the rest of the corporate internet/telecommunication complex would do whatever was demanded by the all-powerful NSA in order to expand their profits and avoid the ire of the Deep State.

Edward Snowden threw a monkey wrench into the well- oiled gears of the cooperative efforts of the NSA, the British NSA – GCHQ, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, Verizon, etc. to conduct the greatest mass spying program in world history. The denials, finger pointing, obfuscation, and outright lies by government bureaucrats, politicians and corporate executives came fast and furious after Snowden’s revelations. They were caught red handed committing illegal acts, in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

Denial press releases regarding knowledge of this mass spying scheme from Google and Facebook appeared to be written by the same maggot public relations firm, as they were virtually identical.

The reactions of Google and Yahoo were reminiscent of Captain Renault declaring “I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!” in Casablanca.

“We are outraged at the lengths to which the government seems to have gone to intercept data from our private fiber networks, and it underscores the need for urgent reform.”Google

“We have strict controls in place to protect the security of our data centers, and we have not given access to our data centers to the NSA or to any other government agency.”Yahoo

These faux expressions of outrage and surprise have been revealed by Snowden to be disingenuous and insincere.  Glenn Greenwald and the Guardian verified the authenticity of a 41-slide NSA PowerPoint presentation, classified as top secret, used to train intelligence operatives on the capabilities of the PRISM program. The presentation claims “collection directly from the servers” of nine major US service providers, including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, and Apple. The presentation also claims the program is run with the assistance of these companies.

Once they were caught in a lie, Google and the rest of the co-conspirators in this crime tried to backtrack and say they were just obeying their masters at the NSA.  In a statement, Google said: “Google cares deeply about the security of our users’ data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government ‘back door’ into our systems, but Google does not have a back door for the government to access private user data.”

Google is supposed to be the most highly advanced cutting edge tech company on the planet, but somehow their entire system is unencrypted and available to anyone with the means to access it. That sure seems convenient. They have plausible deniability, while allowing the NSA to syphon every piece of electronic communication on its networks. No wonder this NSA diagram had a big smiley face on it.

Detail of an internal “NSA presentation slide” published by the Washington Post. The sketch shows where the public Internet meets the private cloud maintained by Google, and points out — with a smiley face — that the data within the cloud is unencrypted.

The documents released by Snowden forced Google to admit to willingly providing data, names and communications directly to the NSA. Google has a special server drop-box for the NSA where requested and approved files are placed to be taken by the NSA via secure FTP. Some printed records are delivered by hand. How much data passes through this hand-off process isn’t known because the company has refused to reveal that information.

With all the brainpower at Google HQ it is beyond laughable to believe they had no idea the NSA was collecting metadata on such a vast scale. They allowed this to happen with a wink and a nod in order to keep profits flowing. Google, Yahoo and the rest of the captured high tech industry sold out the American people for profits. They were willing participants in the largest crime in U.S. history, and there are no repercussions or prosecutions because their co-conspirators are the very government who would have to prosecute them.

The supposedly legal aspect of this spying program allows the NSA to gather huge amounts of Internet communications by legally compelling U.S. tech companies, including Google, to cooperate with officials and turn over all data that matches secret court approved search queries. This is authorized under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act. PRISM operations are overseen by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC). None of this was known prior to Edward Snowden nobly deciding he could not let this go on in good conscience. Neither the government, Google nor the other communications companies would have ever revealed this program. Of course, the non-legal vacuuming of metadata is far worse and has no support whatsoever under the U.S. Constitution.

To give you some perspective on the scale of this criminal enterprise, NSA analysts processed more than 180 million records within a time span of 30 days from Google’s metadata system. The NSA gained access to who sent the message, who received the message, what the message contained and all audio and video sent on this system. The NSA secretly tapped into the private fiber-optic networks that connect Google’s and Yahoo’s worldwide data centers, allowing the spy agency to suck up “at will” bulk metadata and content belonging to users of the companies’ services.

Under a program called MUSCULAR, a joint project with British NSA counterpart the GCHQ, the NSA takes advantage of overseas taps to intercept data flowing within Google’s and Yahoo’s geographically distributed data “clouds,” where multiple copies of user data are stored unencrypted. Google “PREF” cookies, which can help identify a user’s web browser and serve up personalized ads allows NSA to single out an individual’s communications among the sea of Internet data in order to send out software that can hack that person’s computer.

The question is why is our government doing this? Are they doing it for our protection or for our subjugation? The War on Terror is really a cover for corporate fascists to further enrich themselves and gain a stranglehold on the government and financial system. There is little or no threat from terrorists in this country. The few psychopaths out there cannot impact this country in a major way. But, fear can be used by those in power to solidify their control over the masses. Before 9/11 it would have seemed unthinkable for our country to descend into a dystopian society, surrendering privacy, anonymity and individualism.

This bulk collection of private communications is their ace in the hole. Anyone who dares to question authority, resist the establishment or voice a dissenting opinion can be discredited and destroyed with personal information gathered by the NSA. One method for undermining those deemed “radicalizers” by the NSA is to document their online porn habits. The documents released by Snowden reveal NSA plans to blackmail non-conformists, as explained by Glenn Greenwald.

“Among the vulnerabilities listed by the NSA that can be effectively exploited are ‘viewing sexually explicit material online’ and ‘using sexually explicit persuasive language when communicating with inexperienced young girls.’ “

If the Deep State cannot bribe you with cash, they will invade your privacy and use personal communications to bribe you. Censorship can be exercised through many channels. The saddest part thus far is the lack of outrage by the American people. The majority of mouth breathing techno-narcissists in this country have never heard of Edward Snowden. They don’t realize he is the Paul Revere of the next American Revolution. They don’t understand the implications of not standing and fighting during this Fourth Turning. Unless enough people stand up and say NO, we will end up with turnkey tyranny.

“The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. People won’t be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things… And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it’s only going to get worse. The NSA will say that… because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.” Edward Snowden

In the final segment of this three part article – Fourth Turning: The People vs Big Brother – I’ll discuss how I think this all fits into the Fourth Turning Crisis we are currently experiencing.

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LeftyGoldblatt's picture
Google barge, kicked out of S.F. Bay, gets warm welcome in Stockton


What are these barges all about? Is it some sort of tax avoidance thing if it is always moving around? Seems weird.


zaphod's picture

All of those SF Google bus protesters should aim for better targets like these floating $100M datacenters. But SF protesters are fundamentally lazy and its easy to throw things at buses. 

Skateboarder's picture

Fuck Sploogle. Don't use their services, and tell others not to. Starving them of information is the only way to defeat them.

p.s. enough with the Snowden worship. His story doesn't make sense - he does't reveal things he knows that are 'classified.' Hero of the people? You can do better than that.

TeamDepends's picture is just as good.

We do not now nor will we ever love Big Brother.

The Alarmist's picture


Excerpt from Entick v. Carrington (1765), English common law precedent to the US 4th amendment ... these rights did not suddenly spring up with the US Constitution:


The great end, for which men entered into society, was to secure their property. That right is preserved sacred and incommunicable in all instances, where it has not been taken away or abridged by some public law for the good of the whole. The cases where this right of property is set aside by private law, are various. Distresses, executions, forfeitures, taxes etc are all of this description; wherein every man by common consent gives up that right, for the sake of justice and the general good. By the laws of England, every invasion of private property, be it ever so minute, is a trespass. No man can set his foot upon my ground without my license, but he is liable to an action, though the damage be nothing; which is proved by every declaration in trespass, where the defendant is called upon to answer for bruising the grass and even treading upon the soil. If he admits the fact, he is bound to show by way of justification, that some positive law has empowered or excused him. The justification is submitted to the judges, who are to look into the books; and if such a justification can be maintained by the text of the statute law, or by the principles of common law. If no excuse can be found or produced, the silence of the books is an authority against the defendant, and the plaintiff must have judgment.

According to this reasoning, it is now incumbent upon the defendants to show the law by which this seizure is warranted. If that cannot be done, it is a trespass.

Papers are the owner’s goods and chattels: they are his dearest property; and are so far from enduring a seizure, that they will hardly bear an inspection; and though the eye cannot by the laws of England be guilty of a trespass, yet where private papers are removed and carried away, the secret nature of those goods will be an aggravation of the trespass, and demand more considerable damages in that respect. Where is the written law that gives any magistrate such a power? I can safely answer, there is none; and therefore it is too much for us without such authority to pronounce a practice legal, which would be subversive of all the comforts of society.Lastly it's urged as an argument of utility, that such a search is a means of detecting offenders by discovering evidence. I wish some cases had been shown where the law forceth evidence out of the owner’s custody by process. There is no process against papers in civil causes. It has been often tried, but never prevailed. Nay, where the adversary has by force or fraud got possession of your own proper evidence, there is no way to get it back but by action.


In the criminal law such a proceeding was never heard of; and yet there are some crimes, such for instance as murder, rape, robbery, and housebreaking to say nothing of forgery and perjury, that are more atrocious that libelling. But our law has provided no paper search in these cases to help forward the convictions.

Whether this proceedeth from the gentleness of the law towards criminals, or from a consideration that such a power would be more pernicious to the innocent than useful to the public I will not say.

It is very certain that the law obligeth no man to accuse himself; because the necessary means of compelling self-accusation, falling upon the innocent as well as the guilty, would be both cruel and unjust; and it should seem, that search for evidence is disallowed upon the same principle. There too the innocent would be confounded with the guilty.

Observe the wisdom as well as mercy of the law. The strongest evidence before a trial, being only ex parte, is but suspicion; it is not proof. Weak evidence is a ground of suspicion, though in a lower degree; and if suspicion at large should be a ground of search, especially in the case of libels, whose house would be safe?


Never One Roach's picture

So they know what I say, when I say it, and where I am every second of the day and night .... Goolge takes pictures of everyone and can even photo my turd floating in the toilet bowl to add further injury to my privacy rights....

...and yet 'they' say they cannot find a massive airplane with hundreds of people in it?!

zionhead101's picture

Someone is remaining very silent on that subject.

Certainly the Satellites with their live continous recordings could be used, but that would require MIL coordination, ... this story is being held back, most likely a 'carrot/stick' over CHINA, as when the TRUTH comes out how CHINA reacts must be controlled by ZIO-GOD's.

sleigher's picture

Don't you have to be a land owner for common law to apply to you?  Because the state owns all the land and we are merely tenants (peasants) they rule by decree and thus we have statutes and policies.  Isn't that why we have police (policy enforcers)?  Buy land with gold (lawful money) and get the original land patent.  Then you can be a land owner and be a sovereign.  Sovereigns fall under common law, the rest of us live on their land.

zionhead101's picture

Snowden tells the truth, he has never release classified info, now WIKI-LEAKS did, but NOT snowden.

Everything 'leaked' by Snowden was known 40+ years earlier in the books of that time "puzzle palace', ...

All Snowden did was make the NSA 'mainstream', probably coincided with the new data center in UTAH,... NSA wanted to make themselves MORE public, and advertise that a DROP-OUT could make $200k,.. all narrative by ZIO-MSM

SoberOne's picture

This is so depressing. Ill continue to choke them but we need some serious help.

sleigher's picture

Someone should sink it.  

Bonapartist's picture

U505 is still available in Chicago

zionhead101's picture

Hitting these 'cool fuckheads' is the smartest thing on earth.

Everyone of the kids on these buses is SPAWN of the ZIO- Liesure class in ISRAEL.

Thats why all the ZIO-leaders are going nuts,... "HOW DARE YOU BLOCK THE BUS THAT OUR CHILDREN RIDE TO THEIR SPY CENTER"

All ZIO-SPAWN will become Billionaires and all who take these BUSES are "GODS CHOSEN CHILDREN"

So yes, ... BURN THE BUSES.

StandardDeviant's picture

Oh, go take your meds.  This is becoming tiresome.

Strider52's picture

If you like your privacy, well, ummmm, you can't keep it.

mvsjcl's picture

But if you're rich enough--I'm talking rich enough to buy governments, Rothschild rich--your privacy is assured!

logicalman's picture

Interesting that the name never shows up on the world's rich list ;-)

zionhead101's picture

Trillionaires NEVER show up anywhere on the list.

GOOGLE "Stewart Resnick", ... and you will see he is GOOGLE CLEAN,

There are services now where you pay $10 Million/year and they wipe clean the entire internet any mention of you.


Trillionaires like Resnick, and/or Rothschild are never mentioned, because mentioning them would bring about a conversation that is BANNED from discussion. Mere mention of "TRILLIONAIRES" will get you banned/deleted on ZH, that's how much they fear this subject, and where it takes you.

But I Agree today's TRILLIONAIRES they BUY countrys, hell they could BUY PUTIN.


rotagen's picture

It's like the ultimate Jewish Mother.  Most people I know have the healthy attitude  "Watch This".  I say give these pinched-butt constipated office drones something to watch.  Who would give these idiots an ounce of thought or worry, they feed on stupidity and fear.

kurt's picture

A Jewish Mother with a wire hanger and an enema bag.

kw2012's picture


Just how the brown shirts want it and it begins in the public schools and don't get me started about the false ADHD epidemic and how kids are drugged.

Skateboarder's picture

ADD/ADHD was the pilot program. After its massive success, the program took on a new figure entirely with all kinds of fucked up diagnoses and new ones being made up daily. Kind of like laws.

So bad. So evil.

ebworthen's picture

Edward Snowden = Hero.

I can't stand Google, Google+ is a giant turd, and Goggle Chrome a pain in the ass.

Funny how CONgress only got upset about surveillance when they found out the CIA was tapping their junk; hey CONgress critters, what about the 4th Amendment for your Constituents you toadies?

What a fucking joke the U.S.A. has become; the military that swears an oath to defend the Constitution is busy raping it while crony corporations who purport to be liberating forces of "free market capitalism" are busy aiding and abetting spying while buying up innovators and floating their stock valuations with FED gravy.


Bonapartist's picture

Snowden is controlled opposition- probably CIA plant to counter the NSA's growing power within the US intel community- it's always about the $ and funding.

KickIce's picture

If he's a plant why would they send him to a country that has not accepted a Rothschild bank?

Bonapartist's picture

Jesus H Christ you guys are naive- who do you think set up the Russian Stock Exchange after the fall of the Commies? Also there are a predominant # of Russian oligarchs that practice the same religion as the Red Shield. Look- I get it- some people need heroes to fill some void in their lives but looking to an ex-govt spook  like Snowden that releases stuff that Matt Taibbi would have found out sooner or later is not the guy to look to.

KickIce's picture

I agree he needs to reveal more and I won't be fully on board until he does, guess I should have made that more clear in my original question.  All oligarchs would rather purchase real assets with printed money but the point I was trying to is they are not under Rothschild control.  IMO, they are taking a large risk if relations breakdown.

zionhead101's picture

 Because RUSSIA and HONG-KONG are more of a FREE-COUNTRY than the USA,

Besides his one-year is running up soon, and it should be interesting, what PUTIN does next, my guess is that this is 'card' that PUTIN keeps up his sleeve.

PLANT is not a good word, he was not planted, he was "GROWN", you can see that he was "GROOMED" for his part going back 5+ years ago,... and he in his own mind, believes his part.

We'll soon hear that he has Hebrew Granny, a.

nd he'll flee to Israel and be safe forever

Zadig's picture

The stories have damaged the empire immensely.  If he was their creature, this would've ended once the security nazgul realized how bad it made them (and their pet tech companies!) look.

zionhead101's picture

Bullshit,.. nada nobody has lost their job,


All the TOP-DOG's knew all along that about this shit.


Overwhelmed the MSM professional liar class is all that this story has done, and taken 'wiki-leaks' off the news, ... and made SNOWDEN into some kind of white-knight,

Not unlike "BEING THERE" were a retard becomes president, welcome to the SNOWDEN world where everybody gets a SNOW-JOB.

The whole narrative of SNOWDEN that an uneducated person can be an expert, that a drop-out can make $200k, this is the stuff of video-games and ZH retards who buy BITCOIN.

Zadig's picture

The nazgul arent going to fire themselves and the empire has no intention of ending the spying. 

The MIC has already lost billion dollar contracts and the tech companies that can't separate themselves from it will be hurting too.  The empire didn't leak this to hurt itself.

Yoki's picture

if you like your internet freedom you get to keep your internet freedom

kurt's picture

The Surveillance State is the cement, now hardening, to catch and punish those who would point out that the USA is infiltrated and corrupted, jointly with intent by, mostly, insane people. Look to the Pnac and the dual citizens.

Root them out. Shut down the fascists. Reverse the anti-constitutional legislation of the last three presidents. 

Sooner or later, folks.

Congress person, how many on your staff, your commitee, your contractees? How many will be on your re-election staff? Note how the election is so expensive and how you pay twice, once to your aids and once to the advertising firm and strategists, and they are the same people. Remember who you serve! The system is rotten. Fix it.

zionhead101's picture

Look no further than ZH, where its impossible to discuss the ZIO-LORDS, mention that and you be banned, and/or deleted.

The only reason for honey-pots such as ZH, is so they can locate and corral dissidents, ... and they can feed the majority with SHIT, and talking-points.


The best bet is to go live in a FREE COUNTRY, not under ZIO-OCCUPATION, so UKRAINE is now out.

libertysghost's picture

Did the author forget to reference Strauss and Howe...or did I miss that somewhere?

Tim_'s picture

Edward Snowden's testimony sent to the European Parliament on March 7, 2014

"The best testimony I can provide on this matter without pre-empting the work of journalists is to point to the indications that the NSA not only enables and guides, but shares some mass surveillance systems and technologies with the agencies of EU member states" (p. 5).

"There are many other undisclosed programs that would impact EU citizens' rights, but I will leave the public interest determinations as to which of these may be safely disclosed to responsible journalists in coordination with government stakeholders" (p. 5).

"I have not disclosed any information to anyone other than those responsible journalists" (p. 12).

"I don't want to outpace the efforts of journalists, here, but I can confirm that all documents reported thus far are authentic and unmodified, meaning the alleged operations against Belgacom, SWIFT, the EU as an institution, the United Nations, UNICEF, and others based on documents I provided have actually occurred" (p. 7).

"The ongoing revelations about unlawful and improper surveillance are the product of a partnership between the world's leading journalistic outfits and national governments, and if you can show one of the governments consulted on these stories chose not to impede demonstrably fatal information from being published, I invite you to do so" (p. 11).

Edward Snowden German Interview: Transcript

"Whether it’s provided I can’t speak to until it’s been reported because it would be classified and I prefer that journalists make the distinctions and the decisions about what is public interest and what should be published" (Source).

"I don’t want to pre-empt the editorial decisions of journalists but what I will say is there’s no question that the US is engaged in economic spying" (Source).

"However, as I’ve said before I prefer for journalists to make those decisions in advance, review the material themselves and decide whether or not the public value of this information outweighs the sort of reputational cost to the officials that ordered the surveillance" (Source).

Skateboarder's picture

Thanks for the backup last time too, Tim. ;)

Tim_'s picture

You're welcome, Skateboarder.

It's my opinion that Snowden is a cunting cunt.

Skateboarder's picture

The first time I heard the man speak was the Spiegel interview. I says to myself, "this is the famed Snowden? HAH!" He sounded fake. You can't pass fake by me. My senses still fucking work.

Tim_'s picture

How to identify CIA limited hangout op?

"There is ample reason to believe that the case of Edward Joseph Snowden fits into this pattern. We are likely dealing here with a limited hangout operation, in which carefully selected and falsified documents and other materials are deliberately revealed by an insider who pretends to be a fugitive rebelling against the excesses of some oppressive or dangerous government agency."

"But the revelations turn out to have been prepared with a view to shaping the public consciousness in a way which is advantageous to the intelligence agency involved. At the same time, gullible young people can be duped into supporting a personality cult of the leaker, more commonly referred to as a 'whistleblower.' A further variation on the theme can be the attempt of the sponsoring intelligence agency to introduce their chosen conduit, now posing as a defector, into the intelligence apparatus of a targeted foreign government. In this case, the leaker or whistleblower attains the status of a triple agent."

"In this analysis, we should also recall that limited hangouts have been around for a very long time. In 1620 Fra Paolo Sarpi, the dominant figure of the Venetian intelligence establishment of his time, advised the Venetian senate that the best way to defeat anti-Venetian propaganda was indirectly. He recommended the method of saying something good about a person or institution while pretending to say something bad. An example might be criticizing a bloody dictator for beating his dog - the real dimensions of his crimes are thus totally underplayed."

"The most obvious characteristic of the limited hangout operative is that he or she immediately becomes the darling of the controlled corporate media."

"[Messengers whose revelations are genuinely unwelcome] are more likely to be slandered, vilified and dragged through the mud, or, even more likely, passed over in complete silence and blacked out. In extreme cases, they can be kidnapped, renditioned or liquidated."

"Another suspicious and tell-tale endorsement for Snowden comes from the former State Department public diplomacy asset Norman Solomon. Interviewed on RT, Solomon warmly embraced the Snowden Project and assured his viewers that the NSA material dished up by the Hong Kong defector used reliable and authentic. Solomon was notorious ten years ago as a determined enemy of 9/11 truth, acting as a border guard in favor of the Bush administration/neocon theory of terrorism."

"Limited hangouts contain little that is new"

"Another important feature of the limited hangout operation if that the revelations often contain nothing new, but rather repackage old wine in new bottles."

"Limited hangouts reveal nothing about big issues like JFK, 9/11"

"A common feature of the limited hangout operations is that they offer almost no insights into these landmark events."

Bonapartist's picture

Snowden has not released anything everyone with 1/2 a brain doesn't know. This is Mickey Mouse Cold War shit.

Mike in GA's picture

He released undeniable evidence.  He put his life on the line to do it.  That's not Mickey Mouse shit, sir.  Calling his actions "Mickey Mouse Cold War shit" from the safety of your own computer is.

Bonapartist's picture

Bull fucking shit. Evidence of what that is so earth shattering- tell me exactly what?

Mike in GA's picture

Evidence - not allegations - that the NSA is hoovering everything across the planet. 

Evidence that the NSA installs backdoors on telephones and computers destined for private markets.

Names of the spy programs and their parameters.

In short, Snowden revealed, at great personal cost, the methods, tools and scope of the authoritarian state being constructed by our elected "leaders".

No one else had done that, no one else has, and he says there's more to come. 

This is stuff just off the top of my head.  If you want more, go get it, Bonapartist.

zionhead101's picture

All was in the puzzle palace 40+ years ago.

Evidence? Snowden just releases slides, and all can be denied.


The books of the 1960's were written by insiders, who were experts with solid education ... SNOWDEN was the equivalent of a JANITOR at his CIA/NSA jobs, and he's being lionized as an expert that is telling.

During his CIA stint Snowden was a fucking GUARD, during his NSA stint he was a comuter 'operator', fucking GRUNT shit, .. Snowden wouldn't know cryptography if it BIT him in the ass.

This GUY is a fucking GIMP.

Dick Buttkiss's picture

I'm waiting for the paper-trail truth about 9/11 — regardless from whom — as that will be the clincher.

If Snowden can't produce it, I don't think he's got anything, no matter how heroic he actually was/is.

Just look at the sideshow coming out of Glenn Greenwald's overblown The Intercept:

Seriously, "Where's the beef?"